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Well, welcome to this talk. It's really quite an important one, and I'm delighted to welcome Mr. John Oone, a funeral director from Milton Keynes Family Funeral Services Limited. Real place, real time. John, thanks so much for coming on.
You're more than welcome. Thanks for having me on, John.
Now, we started talking because we've got a mutual concern about these white fibrous clots that are coming out of the circulatory system of many deceased individuals. Yes, and you're involved in this embalming process, John, where the blood is taken out and replaced with embalming fluid. When did you first notice something unusual?
So, really, in 2021, about halfway through, we started seeing lots and lots of people who were passing away suddenly, who were a lot younger than those we were used to. You know, as a funeral director, I've been in this profession for 18 years. Ten years I spent working for one of the big funeral providers, and for the last eight years, I've worked myself running my own funeral home. You kind of get to know, very much like doctors in general practice, who should present when, at what time of the year, and in what numbers. The numbers were very off, and we were seeing, and we continue to see, lots and lots of young sudden deaths, which correlate perfectly, of course, with the humongous amount of excess deaths that we're seeing, which nobody seems to want to address.
So, these white clots, just to be clear, the first time you can remember seeing them was 2021, not 2020, and never before that?
No, and I've got a background in this. In the 18 years that I've been a funeral director, seven of those years were spent working for the coroner, so my job was body recovery. I would recover people in all different various states, and while I wouldn't know the Latin term for every ligament and nerve, I could tell you what's normal and what isn't. I've got a BIE registered embalmer who works for me full-time, and he's done 22 years. He's never seen them before 2021.
So, some people think they've seen some small ones in 2020, but that's not your experience. It's 2021 they started, midway through?
Yes, 100%. And that just happens to correlate with being six months after the onset of some therapeutic intervention or other.
100%. I can tell you I definitely believe that's what's causing this. What's most upsetting is not the fact that we're seeing it, because it's become normalized now, but it's the reaction of the people when you raise the alarm and try to raise concerns about it. Nobody's interested. We're getting pretty much the same reaction that Andrew Bridgen, for example, is getting in Westminster.
Right, so you made two really good points there, John. First of all, this is something you're still seeing frequently. What kind of frequency are we talking about with the bodies that you are embalming?
I would say around a quarter, about 25%. Overall, it's very interesting because, as a funeral director, there are two types of death: sudden deaths and expected deaths. With sudden deaths, quite often those people are given a postmortem. During the postmortem process, obviously, the organs are removed. They take blocks and slides, and then they place the organs in a bag, which goes back in the cavity, and it's sewn up. So, clearly, the embalming process is very different for someone who's been cut open, for want of a better word. We have to literally open them up, take those organs out, and manually target the arteries inside the body cavity of that deceased. That is where you see them, then, because you're at the very core of that person's body, and you can see the... I mean, I've got an example here. Thank you. This is a particular sample we took recently from a deceased, and it was taken from the arteries purely because it was an obstruction. We couldn't get the embalming pump into the arteries to put the fluid around their body, and this is why. It was interesting; I watched what you said a couple of nights ago about them being a cast, and they are exactly that. They grow inside the arteries and veins, and they take the exact shape of those arteries and veins. What I suspect is happening is that some people, for whatever reason, be that blood type or what they've been given, perhaps they're reacting in this way, where they're growing this stuff inside them, and it's growing inside their arteries to the point where they're not getting adequate circulation, and they're falling over and dying. That's my theory based on what I'm seeing.
And to be clear, you're getting this from the venous circulation and the arterial circulation?
Yes, predominantly the arterial. As a funeral director, when we embalm, we go into the arteries and feed the fluid around the arteries, and then it vacates the body via the venous system. I'm noticing in arteries, and it used to be really only in the veins that you would see the odd clot because it's a lower pressure return system, and there's high pressure in arteries, so you wouldn't normally see it. But the clots that we're seeing are very different from normal clots. They're traditionally like a red jelly clot; you couldn't pick them up, you couldn't hold them. They were bits you could wash down a plug hole, for example. These, they're like calamari. They're like rubber, and they're not like squid.
Yes, I don't know if you've had any samples from anyone. I'll be happy to send you some. They're very tough and very fibrous, and when you look at drugs like heparin, which are traditionally used to thin the blood and break down clots, it's not going to touch these, John. It's a totally different thing.
It's a totally different thing, yeah. So, things like heparin will prevent clots from forming; it won't actually dissolve the clots. We do have thrombolytic therapy in hospitals, but it breaks down the fibrin. Yes, but these are something else. They're like... I've never seen anything like this. It's very gristly, very rubbery, very tough. I have a great worry that anyone with this... I don't see how they're going to get it out of themselves without it being physically removed, which obviously would be very invasive and a very dodgy thing. You know, you start pulling this out of a live patient; it's a real challenge. It's a real worry.
Now, you told me a distressing story this afternoon, being careful to protect confidentiality, of course. We're dealing with a young adult who died suddenly.
Yes, so this gentleman died suddenly. He was given a postmortem as a direct result. During the postmortem process, they open the body cavity, take the organs out, and inevitably, they're cut out. They do blocks and slides and tests to try and ascertain the reason this young man died. Then those organs are placed back in a bag, and that bag is put in the body cavity, which is then sewn up. The deceased is then released to us as funeral directors. Now, being he was a young man, he had a big social circle; people wanted to see him, so the family asked us to embalm him, and we did. So, you have to open the body cavity up, take the organs out in the bag, and then manually target the seven arteries that you see in and around the body cavity. These include, for example, the radial arteries in the arm, the femoral arteries in the top of the leg, and you can physically see them like cut straws. Some people have very large arteries, like kind of as big as my finger; other people's might be slimmer, like the width of a biro pen, and everything in between. They'll do the same job. When we've gone to put the embalming nozzle down the artery to pump fluid into that limb, it's obstructed. It's obstructed by a blockage. My embalmer has called me, and I've gone over and had a look. He's removed this clot, and as he's pulled it out with tweezers, the clot has come out the full length of this young man's leg—nearly 3 feet long. It initially appears to be very similar to a normal clot, but then when you wash them off and you wash the blood off, they're bright white. If you don't get all of the blood off, once you place them in formalin, the formalin will burn that blood, and they go black. So, if you wash them right off properly, they stay bright white. They're not normal; they're not usual.
So, we did, and I emailed my local coroner and kind of said, you know, we've had this young guy in. I know you've looked at him because he's had a postmortem. I'm really concerned because we're seeing really strange clots in him that we haven't seen before. I sent an email because I wanted a paper trail, John, and usually with my coroner, they're very good; they'll get back to me within the hour. I send an email—sometimes less—and didn't get a reply. So, three or four days later, I received a phone call, and it was from one of the girls in the office who said she spoke to the pathologist. The pathologist wasn't concerned, asked me to dispose of the samples, and actually suggested that it grows inside people regularly postmortem. You know it doesn't. Of course, I worked for the coroner for seven years. Now, to expect me to believe that when you die, rubber fills your arteries is ridiculous. It's fantasy, and I actually felt quite insulted. I felt quite insulted that they would think that I was that stupid. And that was where we left it. Subsequent emails I've written, voicing concerns, have been totally ignored. They ask you to dispose of the evidence under the pretense of course.
Yeah, of course. So, I wrote to the Chief Coroner of England because I'm not talking about one death now; I'm talking about dozens—raising concerns about dozens of people that have died suddenly, and you find these white rubbery things in their circulation that shouldn't be there. I mean, I've got a BIE registered embalmer; he's done 22 years, and he says exactly the same. It's very interesting that the BIE have openly threatened...
It's the British Embalming Association, yes. They've openly threatened their members with disciplinary action if they raise any concerns, which actually breaks one of their oaths. Oath number four is that they will voice concerns if there are any. They're not doing that; they're hiding it totally, and they're actually intimidating their members. So, they have a monthly magazine that's released to all of the BIE members, and they've openly mentioned me as a funeral director, warning them not to speak to me, and saying if there's any confirmed concerns, they go directly to the lady who runs it and not to speak out to anyone. Why would you do that? Surely, if you see something inside someone that shouldn't be there, you should voice those concerns. You know, as a funeral director, certainly for me, I have two reasons that I would voice concerns. Let me explain: if I go to the hospital, John, and I pick someone up and I bring them back to my place, and I roll them over on the tray and they've got a knife sticking out their back or a puncture wound, I have a moral obligation as a decent human to raise that concern. I also have a legal obligation to raise that concern. We're raising these concerns; nobody is listening.
And when I emailed the Chief Coroner of England, I CC'd in around 15 or 20 very eminent people, including Professor Dolores Cahill, Dr. Tess Lawrie, Dr. Steven Frost, and others, and I didn't get a reply. So, I emailed again and said, "Look, what are you doing about all of these deaths that we are seeing? This isn't right." I got a forwarded response from his secretary, and it said, "We follow government policy." It was kind of the most revealing answer they could have given—an admission without actually admitting anything. So basically, they follow government policy. Now, government policy is this: if you die from a thrombosis, it could be a jelly bean in your artery; it could be sawdust. It all comes under the same umbrella term of a thrombotic blockage. They won't dig any further than that.
And you reported suspicious...
I don't know. No, not suspicious. You'd reported a brand new pathology.
Yes, I reported concerns over pathology that I've stumbled across and others. I mean, I'm regularly attending groups where there are half a dozen or more ERS and funeral directors that are seeing it openly, and we're talking about it. We're documenting it; we're taking samples, we're taking photos, we're trying to raise the alarm, and nobody is listening. They're actively gaslighting people, and this is why we've got record numbers of excess deaths. It's insane.
So, you've been insulted, and you've been told that you follow government policy?
Yes, by the Chief Coroner of England. I mean, the coroner system, as a nurse lecturer, nurse tutor, we used to get the coroner in for every group, and it was a real reassurance. He used to say, "Well, since medieval times, we've always had a coroner in the UK." So, basically, this is a safeguard. So, John, if someone bumps you off covertly, you know they're probably not going to get away with it because we've got these coroners here that are the bastions of justice—the gatekeepers to the cemetery. If that system is failing, that would distress me massively because it goes against everything that I've been teaching for all of my...
I would suggest that it is not only failing, but it's actively complicit in a cover-up, following government policy.
100%, yeah. I believe that this will go down as a biblical crime. I mean, we're getting reports of this now from other undertakers I've talked to—the Tom Haviland researcher in the States. He's a good guy. And I've actually, in the last few days, been talking to a leading doctor in the UK and a leading medical professor not in the UK, and they are saying that this is a consistent pathology—that this could happen from things that are in the blood or it could be secreted by the vascular endothelium that's lining the blood vessels.
Now, from your experience, do you think that these clots are forming a long time before death, just before death, just after death, or a bit of both? Is there any way we can...
Let me tell you, nothing carries on growing inside your body when you die. Nothing, with the exception of perhaps decomposition. You know, as your body begins to break down, there's no way on Earth these clots form. I would have seen them. I've done 18 years; seven years of that I worked for the coroner. I've got a BIE registered embalmer. I'm talking... I have had maybe 60 or 70 other funeral directors reach out to me. They've even tapped me on the shoulder at the local crematorium and thanked me for raising the alarm.
60 or 70?
Yes, other funeral directors within the industry. I've had M tree managers that tell me the excess deaths have gone up 600%.
60 or 70 funeral homes?
Yes, and they're all really frightened because they all work for someone else. When you realize what's actually going on and you realize the gravity of the situation, and I've sat with big political figures in Westminster and discussed it openly, and we were told as a group of people, "It's above my pay grade; there's nothing I can do about it." The guy left. You know, it's... when you understand the gravity of what's going on, these people are frightened, and I get that. I'm just not frightened.
Yeah, always good to meet a brave man, John. I've got no choice because I have a moral compass that won't allow me to be complicit.
So, you're pretty confident that these are there before death, and obviously, I believe that they actually cause death. But when you look at the size of a vessel and you see the percentage of that diameter of that vessel that's blocked, it's clear this doesn't grow overnight. This is a gradual process, and the timescale would support that. I believe that what's happening is we're getting people with an increase in high blood pressure that goes up and up and up, and then heart failure, and they're going to die. What they've done is very clever because it's actually simulating the most regular natural causes of death: blood clots, strokes, and heart attacks. Who would be surprised that somebody died from that? But the key is in the numbers and the ages of those people and the excess death rate, which has been quite well documented. I think 100,000 in the last 12 months excess deaths correlate perfectly with the appearance of these white...
100%, yes. They are these white rubbery things that definitely, definitely... and I'm just desperate for someone to take us seriously because otherwise, we're going to have a pandemic of heart...
Well, it's there now, isn't it?
Well, we are getting, of course, massively more circulatory system deaths, and deaths have been higher throughout 2023. 2022, they've been high; they've been higher all the time.
Yeah. Going back to 2020, what did you notice about the pattern of deaths in 2020, and what's your thinking on the amount of people that actually died from COVID in 2020? Where were most of your bodies coming from in 2020?
So, there were no more deaths in 2020 than any other year, John. There was a brief blip in March and April for about three weeks, and this was exactly the same time they used up to 1,000% more mRNA. This is the cause, I believe, of the first... we were told the first wave, and this, of course, is exactly what you see when you look at the graph of excess mortality from Our World in Data. You know, in 2020, it's low; then you got this massive peak, very short-lived, and then it goes down again. Yes, and of course, we've been told that this was caused by the Wuhan wave. No, it wasn't the Wuhan wave. I was going exclusively to care homes. This was exclusively where they were putting the elderly. And you know, if they say to you a virus is out there, it's out there in the public domain, it would be everywhere. Why was it exclusively care homes? Because that's where they were exclusively using up to 1,000% more mRNA.
You got any evidence of the fact that they were using mRNA?
John, I've seen the vials, or I saw the vials on the sides and discarded in bins where they hadn't cleared up properly. I've spoken to members of staff who openly admit that the district nurse comes, they inject people, and they know they're going to have residents die. This is consistent with people from nursing homes that I've been talking to who conducted... well, I wouldn't use the term consultation, but they held their own mobile phone out. The patient was there; the doctor diagnosed COVID, prescribed end-of-life drugs, mRNA, morphine... the people that weren't even terminally ill.
Yes, yep. Now, have you any way of knowing that the white thrombi that you're seeing in the patients that are dying at the moment, do we know anything about their COVID status, their vaccination status? Is there anything that would...
Every one of them that I've spoken to has been vaccinated, and I make a point of asking that at the point of arrangement. Because the government was so heavy-handed about insisting we were all vaccinated and kind of insinuated you were a danger if you weren't, these people are all very forthcoming. So, I ask them their loved ones' vaccine status, and they'll say the same thing, especially with the youngsters where I suspect it is a vaccine death. They're all vaccinated.
Yep. And it's just... what gets me about this is this is a completely new pathology. Normally, doctors and young researchers are saying, "Oh, we have a new idea," and they try to compete with each other to get into the literature first. But here, a completely new pathology is being discovered by people like yourself. And this white thrombi that you pulled out of the femoral artery of this tragic young man, who should be at home now with his kids and his young wife, you know, when you think about it in those human terms, it's simply appalling. You know, he should be going to visit his mom on the weekends. You know, he should... all these things.
100%, yeah. 100%. And the family know, John. They're not silly. They know. Some of them are coming in really angry. Where do they go with that? Because the coroners won't listen; they won't entertain it. The police... I've been to the police station and TS Valley police on April the 28th of last year. I went with Mark Stone, and the incident number was 1068 at TS Valley, Milton Keynes. I asked to speak to someone in relation... I said I was an undertaker; I run a local funeral home. I said, "I've got real concerns over a number of deaths I'm seeing. I really need to speak to someone to voice those concerns." They wouldn't even speak to me; they wouldn't even see me.
This is incredible. You are a gatekeeper of the safety of the entire British public, you'd think so, wouldn't you? If it somehow gets past the police and this case... why didn't the pathologist pick this up?
Well, what we can say for certain is the pathologist hadn't pulled it out because you pulled it out.
Yes, well, I've been a funeral director, as I've said, for 18 years. It's the only time I've ever raised concerns. They're not interested; they don't want to know, and they won't even enter into a discussion. They're actively hiding it.
Actively. Why? You would have to ask them. I suspect coercion, probably money and pressure.
And how long are you complicit in a crime before you are complicit? Do you know? If you're going to hide something, how long do you hide it before you actually are complicit?
So, I guess they're in a really awkward position now as the truth slowly comes out.
Yeah. How long are they going to gaslight us for and lie? I really don't know; you'd have to ask them.
Yeah, well, you weren't gaslighted. Your intelligence was insulted; your profession...
I knew, but when you have to have some sort of working relationship, do I start screaming "liar"? You know, it puts you on the spot, don't it? So, I just keep telling people the truth in the hope that good and truth will prevail, and that's my hope. I believe it will.
I mean, let's suppose a patient came in, a body came into you, described as a sudden death, and you found a bullet hole in the back. You know that would have been missed. Let's say, if you went to the police now in February 2024, do you think they would come around and look at that?
I think it's a really interesting one, to be honest with you. It wouldn't surprise me if they completely turned the other side. No, I've got no faith in the police and no faith in the system at all. You know, and there's talk now of the coroner's creation paperwork being disbanded as well. Now, that was brought in after the Harold Shipman GP case, where he was killing people. They brought in what's called cremation paperwork, and the idea of that was to prevent unlawful deaths going through a cremation process. They're talking about abandoning that totally. They've already trimmed it down from one doctor to two doctors to one because of COVID. We were all told, and you know, it's generally recognized in the industry. I know when COVID was on, loads of people said it was a great time for doing murder.
Well, I think it still is, to be quite honest.
100%. I totally agree. I mean, let's suppose, completely hypothetically, we had someone who was going around poisoning people, and it made, let's say, it made the legs turn orange, say, you know, and you were seeing lots of orange legs, and you went to the police and said, "Just a minute, I'm seeing lots of orange legs here; this could be because of foul play." I would expect them to be around there like a shot.
Yeah, no, they won't even talk to me. They won't even sit and take a statement off me. They gave me an incident number, 1068, and you could verify this with Mark Stone because he went there with me.
Yeah, and I will say that you've sent me a lot of photographic evidence, John. It's ambiguous what we can show on YouTube in terms of photographic evidence at the moment, but I have seen it. I give my word that I've seen it.
To be honest with you, I'm a guy that cares very much about people, not just about what's going on but also about their privacy. And, you know, I wouldn't ever send any documents. People have said, "Oh, can we come and film?" No, you can't because it's not appropriate. But certainly, samples of what I've seen and a short video of the clots laying there, I'm more than happy to send. And, you know, I'll talk to anyone that listens; nobody seems to want to talk to me.
Yeah, well, I'm just... what's going on in our country now is just incredible. 2020, 2021, you started seeing these. Would you say they got more towards 2022, 2023? Were you seeing more?
Well, I'm seeing less now, although I'm seeing more deaths. The reason I suspect that is because the coroners, they know that I've been very vocal, and one of the questions they ask families is, "Which funeral director are you using?" So, I kind of wonder if they then tell the coroner, and I suspect the bodies are probably being cleaned up a little bit before they... at least, that's my suspicion. I've got no way of proving that, but I'm not finding as many clots as I did, although in the last two weeks, I found two full of them.
So, you know, I know right... still, still 20%... so the 25% average. Do you know what the average figure over the past few years could be?
It could be one person; that's enough to raise the alarm, you know.
Of course it is. Why, for example, when you look at schools, they won't serve peanut butter in schools because of the odd person who's died of anaphylaxis. We have 100,000 excess deaths just in the past... just in the past, and all the MPs are going on jollies in Davos.
Yeah, yeah. What can't people see? And laughing and jeering when someone mentions it in Parliament, mocking him and telling him he's going to be dead soon because he's been jabbed and he'll have cancer and die, and the Prime Minister slams his hand down and categorically says COVID vaccines are safe.
Yeah, that one. Yeah, it's unbelievable. It's almost as though we've gone to bed, woke up, and the whole world's become inverted.
Yeah, yeah. You know, so yeah, I won't stop shouting. They can come get me whenever they want, but I won't stop telling the truth, John.
Yes, so I had a hospice nurse reach out to me in July. Her name's Helen; I'm not going to identify fully. She said she's seeing cancers in the under 40s and 50s that she's never seen. So, prior to the COVID rollout or the jab rollout, we used to see people come in; they'd have a cancer story, and that story would be 2, 5, even 10 years long. Now, these people are dying in 6, 8, 10, 12 weeks from being asymptomatic and leading a regular life to death. This cancer hospice nurse said exactly that. She said they're dying before they even get a single treatment. They're dying before they can even see a consultant to discuss treatment.
And you mentioned that horrible brain tumor, Gast...
Yes, of course. This is... she's never seen aggressive brain cancer.
Yes, and these people are dying literally in weeks from being asymptomatic and leading a regular life, and there's only one thing they all have in common: they've been vaccinated.
You know, you're describing what happened to a good friend of mine, John. Bless him, fit and well, dead within six weeks.
Yeah, yeah. And on the comments, I'm getting a lot of the same thing. This is resonating with people. It resonates. They're coming in here really angry, John, because they know now.
Yeah, this can't be hidden for much longer.
John, where do they go with it, though? If you go to the coroner, they just gaslight you. If you go to the police, they're not interested. You write to your MP, he'll recommend that you get your next COVID booster.
Yeah, they're insane. And they are... I've got letters from MPs all over the country.
Yeah, I can't publish them because I haven't got permission from the MPs, but you know, the vast majority of them are saying, "No, we carry on. This is the policy; we follow government policy."
Yeah, they're well paid, and they think they've got a seat on the ark. "We follow government policy" is another way of saying, "I was just obeying orders."
Yeah, of course. We see what an excuse "just obeying orders" is. It's not an excuse, no, and that was never a defense, was it? It didn't work for those in Nuremberg.
Exactly that. Exactly that.
Yeah, John, you have our complete admiration and the thanks, I mean, as far as I'm able to, the thanks of the British people. You know, and the fact that our coroner system that safeguarded our well-being since the Middle Ages has now got serious question marks over it. But we've got guys like you that are shouting out the truth.
We really... I care very much about other people, and don't get me wrong, I'm aware that I have a family as well. Do you know the future that these insane genocidal maniacs are shaping for us? And what encourages me is that, I mean, when I first started speaking three and a half years ago, everyone said I was mad. I've had members of my own family disown me, you know, and people that I thought were friends, I no longer speak to.
You see, I'm the crazy conspiracy theorist. I draw comfort now knowing that people like yourself and other far more intelligent, far more reputable medical professionals are openly discussing it. So, I kind of draw strength that surely goodness and truth will prevail, and if we do live in a society where these criminals can be put to task, they will be.
Will that happen? You know what? I live now only to testify in the court in Nuremberg, and I hope that happens. You know, I'm going to keep going, I promise you.
And your data, what you've just told me, is completely consistent with the international data collected by Major Tom Haviland—completely consistent. Completely consistent with the undertakers I've talked to other than yourself and Tom Haviland in his contacts. This is a consistent story that's coming out.
Are you concerned for your personal safety, John?
I don't care. If I was bothered about me, I would have never said anything. They can come and get me tomorrow. What's the worst that can happen? It puts me out of my misery because it's miserable. It's a miserable... do you know what? Living knowing what I know when everyone said you were insane, it's really tough. It's a really tough ask. But I think we go through this life, don't we, and we wonder why we're here. I know why I'm here now, and I'm going to keep going, and I'm not frightened of them. I spend a lot of time in the company of death. They know where I am; they can come and get me tomorrow. I could have a car crash or a heart attack or an aggressive cancer. I'm not frightened of them. Let them do their worst.
Yeah, it's about all of us, isn't it? It's about all of us, not just me. I've had the police round a couple of times with death threats for me personally, and yeah, you know, I find this actually more concerning than, you know, a gang of gunmen walking down the street. You can see that, you know, the danger.
Yeah, they don't do it that way now. It's... what would be more concerning is a cancer or a blood clot, you know?
Yeah, the weapons of choice are not silenced pistols anymore, are they? They're toxins, cancers, and... but I'm not frightened of them. Let them come and get me. I'm really not frightened because it's bigger than me; it's more important than me. And if I should die anytime, you know, I want my legacy to be saving others and truth and honesty.
Yep, yep. If I can have that on my gravestone, that'll do.
Amen. Amen.
Yeah, John, thanks very much, mate. Really appreciate it.
You're most welcome. Thank you for your time as well, John. Thanks.