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No, I'm I'm very open about this. I like 6'4 brown skin tatted up dread heads. That's my type, but hear me out. Hear me out. Outside of sex with them, they They They have no personality. They cannot carry a conversation. We get it. If you wouldn't have torn your ACL 7 years ago, you would have gone [laughter] to the league. No, I don't want to watch your high school highlight tape. No, I don't want to smoke weed, and no, I don't want to play 2K. Literally, like there's nothing there. There's nothing there outside of like semi mediocre okay sex. You actually wouldn't like them at all. So, then I realized that's not actually my type. That's what I'm physically attracted to when I go out into the world, that's what I'm physically attracted to. But now, when you remove sex, I'm not attracted to them in any way, shape, or form. They like I need someone that can hold a conversation, that's intellectual, that's smart, that stimulates my brain, that pushes you better. Like, that's doing what I'm doing. I don't go to the club. I don't drink. I don't do drug like I don't do drugs. Like, I'm not going to be around I'm not going to date someone who does those things because I don't do those things. But yet, they're all outside and they're bedazzled head-to-toe outfits. Like, that's not my type, but it's what I'm physically attracted to and who I would hook up with. Take the hookup out of it. Does dead dead. And I'm like I'm I'm finally understanding this at a grown grown grown grown grown age cuz no one explained this to me younger. Remove sex from the equation and really ask yourself, would I still like that man? And I think the answer is no.
>> Ladies, you agree with this?
>> Guys, you know what's so funny? That men
>> Well, let's go around. Let's Let's go.
>> These really ain't got nothing to offer. Blessing And that's why I have business partners and not boyfriends. Cuz if you can't do nothing for me, I can't do nothing for you.
>> What do your business partners do for you? I'm just curious.
>> Real estate.
>> Bro, those business partners. I thought that maybe just collected cash or something. All right, got it. I didn't know. All right. Um
>> Yes.
>> You agree with her?
>> I do agree. Um to be honest Why I lose track of it.
>> Do you agree?
>> As I said, you know what's funny? The man that in this situation is still winning cuz he's getting sex. Like
>> Right. Right. Yeah, that is extremely We'll come back to that. We'll come back to that. That is extremely [laughter] Yes, that's very insightful. That's actually the correct answer. Go ahead. What What do you think about this?
>> Okay, so like what I think about the video?
>> Yes. Do you agree with that?
>> What is it this the overall topic of men
>> The premise.
>> The premise is
>> I'm attracted to these men. Very attracted to a certain type of man, but now I've realized after probably having sex with lots of them that now I Nobody clip that, please.
>> [laughter]
>> Uh the I've realized uh that that now I want a man who is better at conversation and has other things going on.
>> Yes, I agree.
>> You agree? Are you What phase are you in right now? Are you still in the
>> Um like with them like relationships
>> You You personally, are you still outside? Like what's going on?
>> Um yeah, like I'm I'm really I'm trying to find I feel like all I can A lot of things are normalized.
>> Yeah.
>> Sex is like a just a oh, I see you on the second day. Like let's do something. I Everything I don't know. But Um yeah, I definitely want more out of a man when it comes to other than sex conversation like I definitely agree with those things. I don't know.
>> What do you think?
>> I'm confused as
>> Okay, go.
>> Cuz I thought that was the stupidest thing I've ever watched.
>> Okay, why?
>> Because I just watched like a what? Like I'm exaggerating a little bit, but a 10-minute video of a girl going on and on and on about something that's like common sense. I don't know, like she just went and just said for 10 minutes
>> Do you think that So So let let's back up. Do you remember the data I just showed you? 58% of women's sexual relations are with the top 10% most promiscuous men. But like By the way, ladies, most promiscuous means had the most sexual partners. They're with the top 10% most promiscuous men. You're saying it's common sense.
>> Well, I don't I thought it was. Like I would never have sex with someone I couldn't have a good conversation with. But never in my life. What?
>> Interesting. Okay.
>> So I never considered that people would have like so much sex realize now I you know, I don't I don't really like this person that much.
>> though in the sense in the sense that she's frustrated because all the hot guys that she is clearly having sex with are not the as intellectual There's nothing else to them besides being, you know, there's there's the personality, there's the intellect, there's all this other stuff that that she would really wants is looking for in a guy. But those aren't the guys she's The guy she's [ __ ] is a guy that is hot.
>> just one don't get why there's a whole video cuz it's like okay. Like I just don't find it that fascinating personally. Like of like I don't know. And then I just also feel like I'm just just like I'm just confused. Like how is that even like a a big deal cuz
>> That's the sense in which you you say you like you wouldn't be interested in having sex with that person.
>> have sex with someone that's You have to have conversation. And it has to be you have to have a good personality. You may be a little bit un-serious. But like you for sure if there's if we're not like really hitting it off, I would never have sex with you or even be like alone with you. Like like in a like a
>> This is really interesting. Do you think Do you think most women in their 20s are like that?
>> Well, apparently not.
>> Okay.
>> [laughter]
>> Honestly, I'm not surprised, I guess.
>> Okay, there you go. Cuz when you're saying that this seems like common sense, I don't know where the [ __ ] you've been, cuz I this doesn't look like common sense to me at all. I've just I literally see women just openly making the shittiest mistakes in the entire world, doing it live on camera.
>> was like an automatic like, you know, like you have like how how like how else are you going to get into someone's
>> It is once they're 29 and or 30, yeah, then it's all of a sudden I care about personality, for sure.
>> I mean, I was in college and I was a party girl and I anybody if I did like hit it off with them like it was like I already like knew them as like classmate person and we like friends, like
>> What do you think about the video?
>> Mhm.
>> Okay, go [laughter] ahead.
>> going to lie, cuz it just sounds like you're complaining about something but you allowed it. That's how I feel. Like, if you let somebody get that close and personal to you in that way and then you just now finding out that I don't know, he's just not that good. I feel like that's just you just didn't do no more finding out, like I feel like y'all was just moving fast. Like I don't know, it's just I'm not going to lie, [ __ ] I don't I don't know. And not in the sense of like weeks, months, like genuinely knowing a dude, like not saying I have not done it before, like I've been there and I've done that to know like
>> Yeah.
>> what that costs, like for instance, if you got like a little sneaky link or whatever and you saying oh, he only good for sex, but that's exactly what he gave you from the beginning to the end, so it's like, why do you expect more when he showed you exactly what he was good for? It was just like men is very straightforward, whether if they tell you like flat out or if they put it in little secrets, I feel like they definitely let you know what they want. And it's up to you, like you have the option, so I don't know, I feel like it's I feel like there's good men out here, but like y'all said, the most promiscuous ones like tend to be more bolder than the good men nowadays.
>> They're more they're more bold.
>> Yeah, I feel like the good men nowadays are like more like they're scared of rejection, one, or they're just not that confident in themselves.
>> Um, here's a crazy idea, What if they're just invisible?
>> Nah, I don't think so. Well, not in my eyes at least cuz I I mean Like I said, I'm a hair stylist. So, I read different energies, people, like how they talk, converse, how they hold themselves, and things of that sort. So, it's not hard for me to grasp on to like a man and what he want from me.
>> Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty amazing. Just grabbed her and moved her like that. That was That's great stuff right there.
>> That [laughter] is that that is athleticism right there.
>> I was I was going to ask the girls
>> Yeah, French girl's gone. I mean, um
>> Yeah, I mean, she's
>> Damn, I I have the translator program ready to go.
>> Yeah, we were going to translate for her. See if we can do it.
>> Nah, man. She's wasting his time, man.
>> That's all right. That's all right. No, I was going to ask the girls, do you have problems trying to find a guy who's a combination of both, right? So, what she's saying is like she can find a hot guy that she wants to have sex with, and she finds the other guy who, you know, she wants to have be able to have a conversation with, wants to have some sort of The guy's got to be at least have a personality and be interesting with, but her frustration is those are two different guys, right? So, there's the guy that she's really hot and she wants to have sex with, and then there's the guy that she kind of wants to have some sort of something more than, but she's still with that other guy. Now, do you have a problem like these days finding a guy who's a little bit of both, like a hot guy who actually has a personality? Do you think Is that Is that difficult for you?
>> I mean, at times, but like I check men that are like my father or on the same page as me. Like, you look good and you have a good hustle, or you're very ambitious. So, sometime or if not, it'd be, you know, somebody I can keep a conversation with, but he don't have He don't make as much as me, so I end up like having to take care of most of the
>> Do you have a Do you have How How like how hard is it for you to find a guy like that? Is that Is it Anyway, forget forget it.
>> Honestly,
>> be like half and half. Like I Like most of the time it'd be your fine ass guy and he make good money or if not it'd be a who don't make as much as me, but he going to take care of me in a way.
>> So, I bet like not money wise though. Like the guy is like he he interests you. Like he can talk He's funny. He can talk to you as well. I mean you still want to have sex with him cuz he's good looking, but like
>> Yeah, it'd be the guys that's on the same same thing as me. Yeah. Mhm. Cuz if not they'd be trying to
>> trick me.
>> What do you think, T?
>> So, for me I I do feel like it is hard to find somebody with both because I don't know. Like for me I'd be running into the same two types. They either be you cute, you got good dick or you broke and you just got the personality.
>> [laughter]
>> That's it. That's it. I don't know. It's
>> It's one or the other. You're cute and you got good dick or you broke.
>> [laughter]
>> That's [ __ ] hilarious. I don't know. Like
>> you're right. Obviously I I Your experience is what I've I've heard from a lot of people, but I think the issue is um Do you think I'm just asking you a a questioner. Do you think that your view of what you find attractive could have been shaped by what you see online?
>> No, because I don't know. Me personally like I I just I don't know. I I used to have a thing for like light skins with curly hair and then after that it just switched
>> And then after Clay cheated on Megan then it's just like
>> [laughter]
>> Yeah, I got you.
>> After that it was just like dark skins with dreads. Then it just It didn't really actually have nothing to do with social media.
>> Bills?
>> Like I used to like dreads. I mean not dreads uh waves too.
>> Waves, yeah.
>> know waves Don't Nobody be talking about waves no more for real. So, it's like you know It It just be like
>> thought about that. Like I I like Yeah, liking guys based on whether or not they have waves or dreads. I I don't know. [laughter]
>> I'm just saying like you know the type of [ __ ] People be having different hair styles like short hair on a a different level. Like they'd be having wigs with gold teeth and stuff like
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah, so it just be stuff like that. Like it didn't really have nothing to do with social media. I know other girls be superficial and they focus on [ __ ] like that, but yeah, that that ain't really me.
>> Yeah. But you're all set Everybody's here single, right? Except for you and but like everybody else is single, all right?
>> Business partner, no boyfriend.
>> Oh, okay. So yeah, okay. So sponsors, got it.
>> [laughter]
>> I I ask a ask Russian girl.
>> Um do you It's I I don't know if you saw the video that we had before, but the girl was complaining. She's like every time uh she's like I'm really physically attracted to a certain type of guy, but other than sex, he's just not really a good match. Do you Do you feel the same way?
>> So what I said it was I said it you know what's so funny cuz the man is still winning at this situation because he's the one who's getting sex.
>> Yeah.
>> So it doesn't matter what she's saying. He's winning.
>> man is winning?
>> Whoever she's
>> Right. Good-looking guy.
>> So So let me ask you a question. Could some other man be losing?
>> Mhm. That's a good question. Um Nah.
>> Why not?
>> She's probably another one cuz she likes him more cuz she is more than sex cuz she's So she's still him, too.
>> So So she So the guy who waited until she was done having sex with the you know, really good-looking one?
>> he waited, though.
>> You don't think he waited? Okay. What What Do you think he's just hooking up with a bunch of girls on in the inner room?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> Isn't what y'all do?
>> Uh I think what I think when you talk about men, I think you might be talking about the men who do get girls, but what about the men who don't? Do you understand?
>> Yeah, I do. Like Well, what was the question?
>> Well, well, my point is like I Do you think maybe it's not winning if you get into a situation where uh she goes through all a bunch of guys in college and in her 20s and she ends up sleeping with a bunch of guys that she finds very physically attractive and treat her like [ __ ] and then when she's 30, she's like, "Now I'm ready to settle down with you." You're cuz you're the nice guy.
>> Well, bad for him.
>> Bad for him. Interesting. [laughter] All right, got it. Got it. What do you think?
>> What's the What's the overall question?
>> Uh the difference between Have you seen a guy that you were really physically attracted to, you ended up wanting him for sex, and then later on came to the realization like, "Hey, I I like guys who are a little bit uh a little bit uh uh I guess so."
>> finding a guy who is like a guy that you would want to have sex with, but he's also funny and like actually a good personality, right?
>> I would say yes.
>> She is he like finding a a combination of the both?
>> Yeah. I would say I have a problem.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> So So So you you find guys that you There's guys you There's guys you want to And then there's guys that are like, "Oh, man, I He's He's funny. He's has personality, but he's not the kind of guy that you want to
>> Yeah. I mean, I feel like especially nowadays, [snorts] I feel like that's kind of what it is right now. It's That's all over. But yeah, I definitely it's definitely hard to find a mixture of both. It's either you get one or the other. But someone definitely [ __ ] him, too.
>> Um
>> Definitely.
>> Which one?
>> Both.
>> The nice guy. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Okay, so just just to let you guys know, no one's [ __ ] the nice guy. Just in case [laughter] you're wondering. No one No one is No one. It's not a one single piece of uh peer-review data anywhere. No one is [ __ ] the nice guy. Guys, the bottom third of men have like zero or one sexual partners. The mean is five. Once we get to 5%, it is 50 sexual partners. When you get to top 1%, it's 150 sexual partners. It's a hockey stick. It's like this. And in the last 20 years, the guys at 5% and 1%, their numbers keep going up, and the guys at the bottom keep going down. The nice guys are getting no sex from anyone.
>> But if you're talking about young girls, yeah, but uh you know, but nobody settle down for nice guys.
>> so they need to sleep with the older women and then wait until they got it. The women in their 20s are done.
>> No, but nobody settling down with bad guys, you know what I'm saying? They They They really You would not But we not settling down with them.
>> I'm going to I'm going to pretend to be a nice guy. Real quick,
>> quick. Guys, I'm going to end my Come on over Mo's going to raid Fresh and Fit for Fresh and for YouTube. So, I'm just going to end my stuff right now. If you're watching on Rumble, come on over to Kick, but other than that, we're going to move everybody over. So, if you guys are watching on Fresh and Fit Myron Gains X on YouTube is going to go to Fresh and Fit. So, come on over and then we're going to go to Rumble after that. So, yeah. For people that are watching on there, I know this is going to be confusing. If you're watching on Rumble, you're going to go to We're going to go to Kick. If you're watching on Fresh on YouTube, it's going to go to the Fresh and Fit YouTube channel. Then after that, we'll go to Rumble. So, or you guys can just go to Fresh and Fit Rumble and then you'll be good the rest of the show. But, yeah. We're sorry. Continue on.
>> Um so, like I said before, like those those guys are not No one's going out with them. No one's having sex with Like, nobody. There's literally like a
>> There's still definitely someone, you know,
>> See, this is so crazy. This is so crazy. Okay. I've done this experiment several times. I recommend all you guys who are out there watching this. If you're in a car with a girl and you guys go to a fast food restaurant or you're at a restaurant and there's a busser who comes by, wait 60 seconds afterwards and ask the girls at the table to describe the busser or describe the guy who gave you the Chick-fil-A or the Wendy's or whatever and they never remember the guy. They don't know he exists. The reason you think all guys are getting sex is because the men who aren't, they don't even register in your brain. Like, you don't even see them. They don't even exist to you. Again, I'm going to say this for the They're not people. I'm going to say this for the third time. I just showed you peer-reviewed data that showed 58% of women's sexual relations are with the top 10% of men. That would That is a massive skew, which means it do on dating apps, it's six matches for every 1,000 right swipes and two-thirds of the matches that men get are are women who don't even contact them again. It's like it's insane levels of destitution and men are just like turning to gambling, marijuana, and and and pornography like crazy. So, no, that no one's having No one is having sex with them. I have I have hundreds of guys come to me. I have my club uh their clients. Uh and when they first get to me they're like I haven't had sex in 10 years. Wait, what? At least 20 30 guys a month I get that will come down through my uh pipeline. And they'll come to me and they'll be like I yeah I got divorced 10 years ago. I haven't had sex in 10 years, 20 years. I haven't been on a date in 10 years. No no no one's having sex with them. No one.
>> So what do they do?
>> They spray [laughter] men.
>> There we go. That's a whole different question. We need to write another book on
>> Yeah. You know I want to I want to point something I was I was going to tell Myron this is that whenever I see um these well first of all the adolescence show was a really good example of this where they were talking about how like the 80/20 rule and they're saying well you know like 20% of guys are having sex with 80% of women or something. They just completely just get it ass backwards. And I don't know how many times I have like reiterated this but the 80/20 rule it's not the Pareto principle and it doesn't work like that and I really wish people would just get their head out of their ass when it comes to this stuff. 100% of women are interested in the at least top 10% or top four and a half percent of women according to well certainly the the OKCupid stuff that Dr. Drew bus everybody drink that all that those those stats plus the new ones that we were just looking at recently here. So it's not just one data set. It's like multiple data sets. And essentially what it is is when they look at the the data for women who say like what what we could call
>> around the table and do this. So I you know what what percentage of men do you think are
>> Did you say not percentages again?
>> [laughter]
>> Rola here's something I found and this is I guarantee you Myron will tell you the same thing. The number of people I meet under the age of 30 who don't know what percentage is is
>> it's
>> Wait, you mean like don't know what a percentage is?
>> Yes, they don't know how what a percentage is.
>> I graduated with all A's. I just I feel like I wasn't there when they were teaching it that day.
>> I'll just I'll just I'll just I'll I'll I'll abbreviate this for you then. So, when we when we've done this before on our show and then the other shows I've I've seen it where they go around the panel and they ask this question like, "What percentage of guys do you find attractive or or find unattractive, right?" And they'll say 90 80 100, right? And 90 80 and then we'll go and say, "Well, what guys do you find attractive?" And they'll say, "10 5%."
>> No, it's somewhere around
>> This is a great question. Fiji, of all the men you come across with like on social media, dating apps, or just in person, what percentage of them do you find attractive?
>> Most of them. That's why I I
>> most men attractive?
>> No, when they talk to me and we interact, if you funny looking and [ __ ] I'm not going to talk to you. So, what are you trying to say?
>> Okay. Okay, but you're still in This Oh my god, it's like I it's like I just You're just repeating what I said.
>> I'll simplify. If 10 guys approach you, on average, how many of them are you going to entertain? If 10 guys come up to you, are you going to entertain one of them, two of them, on average?
>> Probably out of 10, one or two. Three.
>> Okay, so there's talking about
>> So so so just just to be clear,
>> But who he is though.
>> Stop. Stop. We we we just You just proved my point. You said, "If he's funny looking, I'm not going to" He doesn't [laughter] even count. You guys Everybody in the chat, do you guys understand what we're saying? The reason why there's so much miscommunication is because when when women when women are talking about men, they're talking about the dude who cheated on them. They're talking about the dude who's [ __ ] on roids with the tattoo sleeves who [ __ ] all their friends. That's the only men they're talking about. They're not talking about the guy who who's at Chick-fil-A or whatever. They don't see those men. So, when I ask her a question about like all the I'm not trying to call you out. I'm sorry Fiji, I'm not trying to call you out, but your answer is descriptive of what I'm trying to say here. What you said was, "I'm not even I'm not even going
>> [laughter]
>> Okay. What percentage of men do you 10 men walk up to you, what percentage of men do you find attractive? Would you entertain?
>> Like I said, 15%.
>> 15%. So, okay, cool. What about What do you think?
>> I like them all.
>> You like them all?
>> all, yes. Even the ugly ones?
>> Don't get me wrong.
>> Is Is everyone who subscribes to your OnlyFans, are they all good looking?
>> Oh, hell yeah.
>> Okay, got it.
>> [laughter]
>> Incredible.
>> I'm joking.
>> No, I mean just it's just the problem is that
>> Maybe like six seven out of 10.
>> Six out of 10, really? That you find attractive?
>> Yeah, but it doesn't mean I'm going to [ __ ] six out of 10 but
>> No, okay, got it. What do you think of guys that you just see normally?
>> Um I'd say four.
>> Four out of 10?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay, what do you think?
>> Uh I'd say probably, in terms of just attractiveness, 15%.
>> 15%? Okay.
>> Okay, that's about right. What do you think?
>> Like attractiveness?
>> Yeah.
>> Probably 50.
>> 50? You think 50% of guys are attractive? Half the guys are attractive to you?
>> So half the guys in this room got a chance?
>> [laughter]
>> Nah, I think everybody look good in their own way.
>> You know, but you So just pretend we're not on Oprah Winfrey right now. Just pretend [laughter] we're on we're actually answering We're on Pressure Fit. Pretend we're on Pressure Fit. Okay, just give me a second. Would there When they talk to you and when you see them physically, you would become sexually aroused by these men. Out of one out out of 10 guys that come and talk to you, what what percentage?
>> Zero.
>> Zero. There you go. We're much closer.
>> Well done.
>> So this is This is another thing that I find that's really crazy is that when we ask women what are they're they're attracted to, what they hear is what makes a good husband and what we're asking is what makes you want to have sex. And those two questions, even though we're saying the same words, they mean two different things. So this girl right here, that's the first time she's she's saying the quiet part loud. She's She's admitting what other people what other women won't admit, which is the fact that they keep finding these guys sexually attractive and then when we ask them, "Hey, what kind of guy do you like?" they're describing the guy they put in the friend zone.
>> Right, right. Well, I was going to say I was just like telling Myron here, it's like when we talk about the 80/20 rule, the 80% comes from like Dr. David Buss, right? Which is they've done the polls, they've done the studies for this. Women find 80% of the guys that they encounter unattractive. That doesn't mean the 20% are attractive, it just means they're not unattractive. The 20% guys are the ones that are like, "Mhm, maybe he'll do." Like, uh if he got a better job, if he, you know, uh stepped up his game a little bit, if he got made partner. They they they they they they
>> Yes.
>> They're kind of mid. You know, they're kind of like, "Okay, if he had value added in some way, then maybe he'd be okay." That's where the 20% comes in, right? But he still has to have something else going for him that makes him visible at the very least, right? And then there's the four and a half percenters, and those are the guys, I'm sorry, I'm going to say it, those are the Justin Wallers, those are the Jason Momoas, those are the Alan Ritchsons. Those are the guys who are like in that because the four and a half percent are the quality or caliber of guy that women will actually initiate a some sort of, you know, contact with.
>> Have you got Anybody at this table, have you ever initiated contact? You found a guy that was so attractive you're like, "I got to I got to I got to DM this guy." Have you ever DM'd a guy that you thought was really hot?
>> Boss Mandy Low and bagged him, went to his mansion.
>> Who?
>> A famous rapper.
>> Boss Mandy Low.
>> Oh, you went to his mansion?
>> It's nothing wrong with a woman doing that. No, someone was like, "I'm about to get him." And I manifested it.
>> You manifested it.
>> Yes, like I was just like overly, you know, like I'm I'm going to do this.
>> But did you So but but you initiated
>> on his Instagram. And about 10 minutes later he texted me, and what I said was right, and he
>> And then what happened that night?
>> gave back.
>> He sent me his [laughter] address, and I pulled up to his mansion.
>> up to his mansion, then what happened?
>> Promise you.
>> [snorts]
>> I got [ __ ] all night, and got nothing
>> All right, okay.
>> 30 [laughter] minutes of purple dick.
>> Is that a long time for like 30 minutes?
>> The prosecution rests, your honor.
>> [laughter]
>> That same night.
>> That same night.
>> get it.
>> Have you ever Have you ever DM'd a guy that you thought was so hot I got I have to do this.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah?
>> Yeah. Um I had texted this one boy. It was like It was just on some like I was just scrolling and I'm like damn this dude look really good so I just text him but it wasn't like I'm not going to text nobody that I know like like around my area and [ __ ] No, I'm not doing that like Ain't going to like you're not going to go around saying like I dubbed this
>> Um how many how many guys do you have?
>> real quick to answer this one. [laughter]
>> How many How many uh guys do you text behind your husband's back?
>> [laughter]
>> You shouldn't have.
>> Yeah, there it is.
>> Okay, well now it sounds bad. Okay, if they're talking about work purpose it's right.
>> Work purpose.
>> Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
>> Business.
>> Yeah, business purpose.
>> Like Brucey, hello.
>> [laughter]
>> Oh no. All right, so we know that that So there's
>> I'm joking. Okay, I'm joking. Okay. Maybe like I don't know like it depends like a month how many months?
>> Well is is there one guy you have said you know what I'm going to slide into this guy's reach out to him?
>> You reach out to him first.
>> Of course that happens.
>> Tell me about it.
>> Like like you have done this.
>> Yeah, like I if I if I you know, I have my own intentions. It doesn't mean it doesn't mean it has to be sex, right? But like I have my own intentions.
>> But if he knows what he's doing could it turn into sex?
>> Maybe.
>> If he's so hot and you're like I'm going to slip into this guy's DMs.
>> Maybe.
>> Well, I mean she's married maybe it's not a good question.
>> I just love how she manifested going to a mansion and getting
>> all night. That is That is
>> [laughter]
>> I am pleased everybody clip that. That is the greatest thing I've ever heard.
>> Have you Have you guys slipped into anybody's DMs because you thought the guy was so hot?
>> For sure.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah. What happened?
>> [snorts]
>> Um It was I guess he had initiated back that he thought I was cute too and just talked from there. Wherever it went was where it was.
>> saw him and you go I got to do this. I got to make this move.
>> Yeah. It's [snorts] been multiple times.
>> the question is you want that You want it where they initiated it though, right?
>> they initiated it.
>> You were asking that where you initiated not him.
>> Yeah, yeah, I initiated you have to say that where I was someone you know how they go in our DMs, go in their DMs like hey like you look nicer.
>> Mhm.
>> You know, like I like you.
>> But he hit you up first though, right?
>> Huh?
>> He hit you back off He hit you up first and you followed up later on.
>> No, I'm Are they not asking when we initiated first?
>> she initiated first, right?
>> But you said you he
>> Yeah, like after I initiated there's um he's just talking back.
>> I think she's saying you reinitiated.
>> Yeah, that's what I mean.
>> Uh what do you think?
>> Okay.
>> Um no, because I like slightly above mid guys with great personality.
>> With great personality?
>> Yeah.
>> Like I'm the type of person that all my friends [laughter] look at me and they ask me why am I crying over that. But I have slid in DMs twice, but it wasn't because of that.
>> What was it then?
>> One was a little bit of like a petty revenge thing.
>> Okay.
>> Of like I had met this person when I was with like my situationship, but I wasn't really able to talk to him. And so I knew he was in town and I was probably going to end up running into him anyway, so I
>> some dark triad.
>> Oh, that is That is actually where cuz we're talking about what can you do? This is one of the answers.
>> It was like honestly the first time I was ever No, it was actually the first time I was ever petty, but I just kind of said like cuz this last one was like the worst one. So I was just like you know what? And he And he's like a streamer, so I was going to see him anyway at a streamer thing. So I was like you know what? He's looking kind of cute today.
>> Yeah.
>> And I didn't know who he was until like like the But I was like in a thing, so like I didn't entertain anything.
>> Yeah.
>> So I was like you know what? I'm single now. Hey, remember me?
>> Uh what about you? Have you reached out to someone?
>> What did he do when you told him that?
>> Yeah. Uh flirted back and then I didn't see him until we accidentally ran into each other at a streamer thing.
>> And then what did you do after you accidentally ran into each other?
>> Nothing.
>> Accidentally
>> Nothing?
>> But no, nothing until like we hung out off stream.
>> And then what happened?
>> Yeah, then what happened?
>> Then
>> Then we were like uh
>> Come on, Maddie.
>> obvious stream thing.
>> Oh, were you were streaming to him?
>> stream. We were like a I was like his his like if they was a thing.
>> It was a thing.
>> Yeah, like it wasn't it's not a secret.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah, but then I was kind of like a PA to him.
>> You were his personal assistant and his thing.
>> but like I was.
>> Nice. And a personal assistant.
>> just do it like I tend to have those tendencies when like I I like someone.
>> Some some codependency.
>> No, no, like I tend to like take on like if you need help with something, I'm going to help you with it. Like if I like you.
>> Mhm. Okay. Value added.
>> Like Like not like I'm dependent on him doing anything. I'm helping.
>> That's cool.
>> He You were talking to someone and he talked to you, you had to ignore him, and then you reconnected with him, and then you reconnected with him again after that?
>> Yes. Just Yes.
>> Did I miss something or Okay, and then like you guys dated kind of.
>> We didn't really date. It was just like messing around for a while.
>> And you were his PA or you
>> No, like I wasn't officially. Like I'm saying like when I like someone
>> So you were all
>> Yeah, like when I like someone, I like if they're if you need help We're just friends. He doesn't live in this country. Yeah, basically.
>> a secret.
>> No, that's not. Nope.
>> Incredible. How about you? Have you Have you snuck into a guy's DMs?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah, what happened?
>> I mean like green.
>> Green like green?
>> Green.
>> Yeah? Was it strictly for money? Huh?
>> [laughter]
>> Excuse me? What is green? I'm confused. I don't Excuse me, what did you say? What did you say? You she she shot her shot, it was green, it went through. Yeah.
>> That's about it.
>> Simple as that.
>> [laughter]
>> Now, of the of the of the guys that you have like slid in the DMs, like were they so good looking that Is that what prompted you? Were they famous? Or were they famous? Yeah.
>> The money, the fame.
>> All right, what about you? Was your guy famous or no?
>> No, no.
>> What about you? Was your guy famous or no?
>> Nobody famous anyway.
>> Just regular guys?
>> Regular.
>> But just very handsome?
>> Yeah, the money.
>> Um here's here's something I'm going to ask you guys. Right now, let's just say you got $10,000 per response.
>> [laughter]
>> How many like legit celebrities do you think you could get rid to respond on in your DMs right now in the next 24 hours?
>> I'm better in person.
>> Huh? What'd [laughter] you say?
>> I feel like I could get a celebrity in person.
>> No, I'd be a millionaire.
>> For sure. My heart, my character, how I come off, and my journey.
>> What'd you say? You don't think you could get any You don't think you could get any guy celebrities to respond to you?
>> They don't even check their own Instagram. What do you mean they're going to check their own message requests?
>> You guys literally just talked about DMing dudes [laughter] and then they started messaging you back.
>> I was talking about streamers. I was talking about streamers.
>> He like Asians. I ain't going to lie. He like black and Asian girls. Like he don't like
>> that you even know that is proving [laughter] my point. Like it's just it's exactly my point. You don't think that you could just sneak into guys DMs right now they wouldn't message you back?
>> Oh, of course.
>> I ain't going to lie. I I know I look good, so I I definitely could.
>> Okay. That's That's what I was trying to say before, man. It's just kind of an interesting
>> that experiment was just simply to reestablish the fact that it is 100% of women are interested in will initiate with the top four and a half percent of of men. Um in the sense that that they find that guy so attractive that they will actually make some sort of an effort to go ahead and do that. 80% of men are the invisibles. They're the not people. And the uh uh the 20% guys are the sort of mid kind of like meh he might do. Those are the guys who have to like sort of figure out something.
>> There is There are other things you can do. There are a lot of other things you can do. Unfortunately, people don't understand what those things are. What she said actually earlier was now she reached into uh to talk to a guy because it was You're being petty cuz you were dating someone else and you didn't like that.
>> Yes.
>> Well, it when women know other women want you,
>> Oh, yeah.
>> it's the like just watch Cloud on his stream. It's just women throwing obviously it's cuz he's famous, too, but like the women just throwing themselves at him over and over again. When I started dating a really hot girl, all my my my my DMs are flooded. Do you guys Have you guys ever had that? You start dating a guy and then his then all of a sudden he starts getting DMs from other girls. Yeah, you've seen that before? Have you seen that with your man? Yeah?
>> Mhm.
>> All of a sudden he starts getting DMs with Have you seen that?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Have you seen that before?
>> I'm sorry, what's the question?
>> You start dating a guy and then all of a sudden he starts getting DMs from other girls.
>> Is it really all of a sudden?
>> I mean, I haven't personally seen it, but I wouldn't be surprised.
>> Huh?
>> I haven't actually seen it, but I would not be surprised.
>> Yeah, so there's a ton of data on this that goes over There's one a study with 270 people where they show a bunch of women pictures of men and the women rate the guys. And let's just say the average rating is like a five. Then they show the same group group pictures of men to a separate group of women, but this time they show them other women's ratings. Does that make sense? It's just kind of like the same thing as comments, likes, and shares on social media, which is social proof. They show other women's ratings. Now, these ratings are made up, they're fake, and they're higher than normal. What do you think happens when the women see higher ratings from other women?
>> Well, obviously then you're going to think that they're you're going to go go along with it.
>> what happens. Yeah, like 30, 40%. Women find men more attractive even when they're not physically attractive if they know other women are chasing them. Like literally like The only reason I've been able to date anyone I've been dating is simply for that reason. It's every and you've talked about this before. It's like what even in your marriage, if your wife knows no women find you attractive, she's going to leave you. And and when you If you were to go to your wife and say Not you specifically, but in general, if you're a guy who's married and you were to go to your wife and say, "Hey, honey, I would like I would like for for to know that other women find me attractive. I've heard that that will make you more attractive. What is she going to tell you? No, she's going to tell you that's not true, even though it is true. And so this is a a function of brain control where men in general, because they're being told by blue pill content creators, milk toast dating coaches, really, really bad dating advice out there from Justin Baldoni or Chris GQ Perry or Who's that guy you showed me today? He was the worst. That guy's the worst I've ever seen. These these
Panders on there that every one of them has 2 million followers. Derek Jackson, etc. Uh Therapy Jeff, [ __ ] that guy. You seen him? Therapy Jeff just canceled. Dude, Therapy Jeff, do you guys know who Therapy Jeff is? He looks like an AIDS patient. I'm sorry, we're not on YouTube anymore, are we? Oh, damn. Yeah, [laughter] sorry.
Uh Therapy Jeff, he literally he got All he does is try to cancel people. He's basically an alpha and preach, very similar. Every one of his videos is why everyone else is wrong but me, and then he gets a sexual harassment charge and he can't he takes his himself off of the off of off of Instagram. And it's one of these these situations, these guys keep getting terrible advice, and when you give good advice, you're ratioed, you're demonetized, you're canceled. That's essentially what happens over and over again.
So, like that's the whole thing I was just trying to explain to you guys. When you were saying before, what do you you were asking before, what do you do, right? And my whole thing is if women know that other women find you attractive, it solves all the problems. It It's It's It's almost like You don't even have to be super rich or super super good looking and you can make it work. The The concept, it's called mate choice copying in humans, if you guys want to look it up in psychology, and you can find a hundred Yeah, or listen to it on audible. You will find a hundred studies on it and you can look up the cheerleader effect, you can look up the wedding ring effect, you can look up the the mate choice copying effect. You can see all these different things where women basically choose men who other women choose.
So, you don't necessarily have like for instance, I know that whatever girl I'm dating, the relationship works as long as I understand that she's attracted to me because she knows that other women are attracted to me. Does that mean I have to cheat on her? No, but what she needs to know that if she left me alone with a bunch of attractive women that they would make moves on me and by doing that she's going to complain and right after she complains she's going to my brains out. That's what's going to happen and it happens every time.
I literally had one of my clients, he comes on I don't know if you met Harold, he's one of my clients. He comes on there and he goes he goes, "Hey um Michael, I have a problem. This girl went through my drawers and then she found she found some panties in my drawers." I said, "Harold stop stop stop stop. Don't say anything else. Don't say anything or Henry's his name. Don't say anything else." Uh and I stopped and I told all the guys on the on the group call, there's about 200 guys on the group call. I said, "He- Henry's about to tell us that right after this happened she complained and cried and then she had crazy sex with him for 2 hours." Just hold on. I have had no prior conversation with this guy. And then and then I go, "Okay Henry, finish your story." He goes, "Yeah, that's exactly what happened. Like as soon as he she just my brains out like right after she saw the whole thing."
So it's like if we were to listen to everything that women tell us and I don't think they're doing this deliberately, but if we were to listen to everything women tell us we're just going to become this guy that women find less and less attractive. If we do what we know is right based on talking to other men and watching the behaviors of women, if we do what we know is right even though it feels ugly and yucky or whatever, it's kind of the only way to make things work. She has to know that other women find you attractive. And this is so hard for Dude, have you ever seen I talked to you about this before? When I ask guys all the time when when men stare at your girlfriend at the gym, does your girlfriend apologize to you? Oh baby, I'm so sorry that men were looking at me. At the No, she doesn't apologize. When women come up and talk to these same men, then these men have to apologize to their wives. Baby, I'm sorry she came up and talked to me. I won't talk to her anymore. >> I'll never leave you, girl. >> Never tell us Here's Here's the rule I want you to take from Never ever apologize to a woman for other women finding you attractive. Ever. You can't You need to lean into it and you Oh my god, you're jealous. That's so cute that you're jealous. She gets so mad and I'm telling you a couple things are going to happen. She's going to act super annoyed. At first you're going to be freaked out. Am I about to lose my girl? And then she's going to have the craziest sex with you she's ever had in your entire life.
>> Everything you just said right now has been confirmed by Alex Cooper on Call Her Daddy. >> If you don't believe us, watch Call Her Daddy. >> Yes, exactly. Well, that's I mean, that's the whole thing with with what's going on in the manosphere right now is is a lot of the everything we were just have discussed at this table has been confirmed by people who aren't in the quote-unquote manosphere. Go ahead. >> I hate that he's speaking facts. I hate >> [laughter] >> it's true, but it's so painful to say it is true. >> what you should do? You should start your own anti-red pill, anti-masculinity, anti-manosphere, because that's that's the new grift. >> Yeah. >> Everybody wants to throw stones at us, but they don't but they won't throw the Alex Cooper can say exactly the same thing you just said right now. She plays the six to 10 million views every episode. >> fourth most viewed podcast in the world or one of the most listened to podcast in the world. >> Amazing. And so that I was going to point this out is that a lot of the stuff that we talk about that Myron has been talking about, all of us in this space have been talking about at least for the last six years, right? Um, it's not okay for us to say it and everybody wants to give us for it, but when I don't know, Chris Williamson talks about it, when Alex Cooper talks about it, anybody else It could be just some random girl in a TikTok video where she's inside her car talking about exactly the same damn thing. That's okay, but when we say it, we're misogynists.