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A programmer, therefore, a cool dude. >> If you [ __ ] initially, it won't help you either. If you couldn't do something before AI, you won't be able to do anything with AI. The middle class is being destroyed, it doesn't exist. >> I looked at the statistics, that 45% of people currently living in the USA will not be able to live to the end of their retirement. Devaluing the cost of creating any product. It costs 3 kopecks and a couple of correct prompts. A lot of people will be left without work worldwide in 5 years, and will be forced to go into manual labor, which will be relevant. >> A poor person is not one who has little, but one who always has not enough. Guys, sometimes uh two very, I don't like to say smart people, well, because it's somehow relative to something, but people with plastic intelligence, as I call it, with flexibility, can gather to discuss something. Today we will try. Vanya and I have already filmed three times, it's already the fourth year for us. >> Uh-huh. >> At least we are not getting old. For now, we are in the period up to 30 years old, >> but the world is changing very much. Somewhere disappointment comes, somewhere on the contrary, we see new things, we grow, we lose, we earn. Thank God, the sky above our heads is clear, and we are still sitting behind bars. No. What has changed for you in the last 4 years, man? Globally, fundamentally in the world, even the basic information that I gave you, like school, university, mom, parents, what to do? Because lately I've noticed a lot. People still live, not that they live, our old programs that were loaded into us, you need to figure out university, study for a long time. Even the word "to figure out something" itself, yes, it's such a thing like, damn, you have a thing in your pocket that already figures out everything, anything. >> The cards have been shuffled >> and figure out how to build a trajectory in all of this, you know, like for 10 years ahead. Listen, I wouldn't say that much has changed in the last 4 years in terms of the rules that you mentioned about "go there, do this, do that." That changed after '71, when they abolished the gold standard and dollars, they started printing them in huge quantities. That's when everything changed. So, you used to have a model: go to work, get a degree, then go to university, get a degree, go to work, save money, buy a house, a car, everything is great. So this model worked until '71 and for another 10 years you could still drive, when after the abolition of the gold standard. >> And I'll add to that, you know, what I caught myself on in America? This is especially the American model. Do your job well, and you will be rewarded for it. >> Yes, not anymore. >> This is exactly, you know, notice this, it still remains in the States. You, if something still remains, >> it remains, but to a lesser extent, >> yes. Now these cards are blurring. Like, you can just be the fastest. Yes, I like the idea of what you said, that do your job well, and you will get everything. So, well, before, doing your job well was an abstract concept, actually. So, you could just go to a regular job, and you could already live well. If you have a family and your wife also works, it's great. You have a car, an apartment, and you can calmly, you know, enjoy yourself. You will also have a lot of money left for retirement, and you will not feel discomfort. Now this doesn't work because your money supply is flying, well, upwards at an enormous speed. And even investments in traditional assets like the stock market, bonds, don't give you the kind of return that covers the acceleration of the money supply that exists in the world at all. And gold too, like, doesn't cover this. Well, like, it preserves, but you can't earn. Regarding the fact that, uh, do your job well and you will get everything. Of course, if you are the first, you take everything. That's it. If you are second, you get significantly less. This changed with the advent of AI. So, how I see it in my head? What has changed significantly in the last 4 years. If 4 years ago you could come into any industry and on YouTube, well, pump up media, anything, you are an expert in something, you could do your job at 8 out of 10, and you would still get an audience. So, if you knew more than the vast majority of ordinary people, you already got an audience, you got traffic, you could sell, you could earn money, you could, you know, pump up your channel. Now, even if you do an 8 out of 10 or a 7 out of 10, this level is available to absolutely any schoolchild with a $5 subscription, well, to any artificial intelligence. So, now the level that was previously available to a person who had to spend a huge amount of time, study, gain experience, and then talk about it all, is now available for $5 a month to any schoolchild who can enter a couple of prompts into any. And so, to compete, your competition has grown to an 8 out of 10 level, but at a 10 out of 10 level, there is no competition at all, because it is very difficult. And for you to take everything, you need to reach the 10 out of 10 level. So, if you do your job very well, you take absolutely 90% of everything that is on the market. If you do like everyone else, you start to boil in this cauldron with all the other people. So, you need to be above the level of artificial intelligence. With all the other people, who are not just eaten by the situation, but, you know, it's a short-term thing. Well, I have this metaphor, yes. It's like you're trying to drive a Kia on the Nürburgring, yes, on a 911 Porsche. What has to happen, something, I don't know, everything has to break down. So, a serious accident, right? So, the probability of something not happening, you can't outrun it. This is a neo-colonialism, right? Well, like, modern slavery, in fact. Whoever can dig deeper into this topic, the topic is not very popular, scary, unfortunately, that's what it gives rise to. Why are we discussing this topic at all? We are, you know, zoomers, millennials, right, this layer, roughly speaking, and we see that the future will not feed us, well, like, basically, it will not provide security. There is no feeling that someone will determine for us at all >> security at all. You and I, in principle, now with the widespread access to people's lives on the internet. These ideas are being promoted, they are close to people. Also, we understand that, uh, unfortunately, traditional social elevators, as I call them. If before, for example, I remember, I'm from the city of Murmansk, right, I clearly remember when I was 18, I got in the car and went to St. Petersburg, because I clearly realized that, unfortunately, the resources available to the people around me, either I didn't think then if I could use them, but I don't have, for example, a rich dad, a dad who has, you know, factories, ships, and so on, old businesses, which I don't have. And there are no alternatives, I didn't see them. I did, >> and such adventure moves, yes, they helped me. Then I remember, so the beginning of our, for example, it's also our business, right, how it brought us to some level, somewhere we fell, and so on. In general, we gained experience, some resources, knowledge. But you said it right, those who found something interesting and reached the implementation method faster and were willing to risk resources, editors, researchers, risks, programmers, these are all risks, yes. Human factor. A lot of cases where, well, programmers personally deceived me, even some banal designers, editors also disappeared. Got sick, a lot of human factor. Now all this is simple, all this is the past world. >> Uh-huh. >> Now a person just takes a screenshot. Ctrl, how is it? Command, command on my MacBook. Screenshot. I want this site. Yes. >> Okay, not the right site. Let's do even better. Make it. So, okay. You need, you know, to make a better prompt. Make a copy of this site. I'll inject the skill of a front-end designer into you. That's what will work for me. And that's half an hour of time. >> Yes, that's super. Uh, I also, you know, I recently got the feeling that I, you know, got immersed in "vibe coding." I'm currently making an app that will be actively used by our community. I made it for myself at first. So, I caught that feeling when I was a schoolboy, when I got my first computer, when I was 6 years old. So, I went to school, and I already had a desktop with a large monitor, like with a keyboard. I remember the feeling when you go online, and there's a lot of new stuff, and you're very interested in learning. And I've caught the same thing now, not yet, you know, there's so much, like a new jump, a leap has occurred in progress. >> 100%. And there's even such a thing, you know, in the environment people start saying: "So-and-so did it, so-and-so did it." Not just at a basic level, for example, you chat with it, but you know what? Here I agree with the statement of Gurinovich, he wrote in his channel, I agree with him 100%. And there is an opinion that all this vibe coding is like chewing gum for the brain. For easy dopamine, you know, like, I couldn't before, and now I can do anything, and you just do it. Like, a calendar for menstrual cycles. Cool. You've acquired a new skill, you can always do what 80% of people won't reach. In the nearest, no matter how much this strong industry develops, it's so stunning, it captures everything, but still 80-90% of people will use some messenger that just sends you one picture: "Draw me as a cat." >> Ah, but let's move on. What did I catch myself on? I read the thought that the product and code have been devalued. >> Uh-huh. >> The cost of this. I remember, you know, there's a blogger named Kirill Evans, he used to write his platform. Yes, it was a form. I remember it being so cool. I used to think, damn, this is incredible, man. How much we talked to programmers. They say: "Well, guys, this is a minimum of thirty grand." And even that is risks, iterations, complexities, calls, you have to live. Now I know a specific person, he's also from the dev sphere, $200. Claude wrote a similar story, even better, more interesting, and so on. Now, you know, what I'm focusing on? Myself, my team, I say: "Guys, it should all be related to money." In what format? For example, I understand that, damn, no matter how much I dislike it, I'm still a content person, one way or another we are involved in crypto content, financial content, but I can't outrun a robot, right, massiveness, blocking problems with the internet, the mood of the speaker, not hitting the topic, not being liked by someone, there are a lot of different things, not so on. And there are some farms, factories, so to speak, and not those that are like content factories, there are very serious people. And I'm sure these serious people and teams are involved in this even with governments. >> Well, because they are farms, roughly speaking, that control attention, form some kind of agenda. I say: "Guys, let's understand that there is money there, we can't outrun it with our hands. We need to create tools to benefit from it." >> Uh-huh. >> And the scariest thing about this, you know what? If before, for example, 4 years ago, 3 years ago, I thought about, damn, now you invest something in your time, resources, team, emotions, stress, gray hairs, recently, by the way, I pulled out a gray hair, you know, >> uh, preservation, no need, no need to preserve. And you invest in your capitalization, you understand? Some core, company, you're growing, and now I don't think in this paradigm at all. This capitalization, it >> dissolves with the release of a new model. I don't quite agree. I'm super distracted by what you said about, that any "vibe coding" and products and the use of AI should be related to money. That's exactly where the big difference is, that the cost of creating any product is devalued. It costs 3 kopecks and a couple of correct prompts and a little iteration, and you have a ready product. What used to cost a lot now costs nothing. The problem is in distribution, in who you will sell the product to. So, there is no problem in creating the product. Actually, there was never a problem. If you had an understanding of who you would sell it to, that is, if you can build a business plan on paper, you understand that we are making an app, it will bring us this much money, we know that there is such a market that can pay us money for it, we are ready to invest 50, 100, and 200 thousand dollars in this app to ordinary developers who wrote code with their own hands. Now the problem is that there is no distribution in 99% of "vibe coding" products. So, you release a product, you have no one to sell it to, it's not interesting to people, you have no audience, no trust. Therefore, I think that the main assets, you mentioned capitalization, right, what cannot be replicated by artificial intelligence, what can remain on the human side is trust and audience. That's it. So, this is your, let's say, media, your media weight. You are on the internet, people trust you, people's trust cannot be replicated with the help of artificial intelligence. Reach. Well, obviously, reach can be faked with the help of these farms that you talk about, right, they release AI content, but you need distribution, and people buy products from those they trust. A product is a solution to a problem, and people are willing to pay for this solution. If you don't have people willing to pay, you don't need this. It doesn't matter how much it costs, 10 kopecks or a million dollars. That's it. That's the key problem here. It becomes the main thing. Listen, have you thought about it, I also saw this diagram from Tropic. They made such a diagram, right, so professions, spheres, and there, uh, what there after some time, okay, let's not take the layer of entrepreneurs, although, well, people who are enterprising, who keep their ear to the ground, are always looking for something, but it will still affect them. My picture of the very near future. Very near future - how many years? >> 5 years. >> Uh-huh. >> So, 5 years. I might have said earlier, with the development of, and when the first ChatGPT came out in revision, I said: "Well, this is a 10-year distance, no way." So, a very strong evolution of all this regarding unemployment and regarding basic income, regarding sixth tech. All this fits very well with what we've heard about in crypto. The middle class is being destroyed, it doesn't exist. Even looking at Russia, it's getting harder, medium-sized businesses are not needed, small businesses are not needed. Attributes of luxury in the form of cars cost unreal money. The most expensive cars in Russia now, after recycling fees and so on. The middle class, it's just dissolving. Globally, even if you look at the state, it's not needed. It's easier to have ecosystems like large conglomerate companies, like Google and others, who have data and power, and delivery, and couriers, and databases. So, they have everything. And it's easier to communicate with them. The cabinets of other people who beat the business class system, and now they are being washed out, man. I recently met a developer in Minsk, we used to work together. The guy came up to me and said he was shy, he said: "Leo, you helped me earn some money." I said, "Wow, cool, remember I wrote software for you for airdrops?" I remembered. Two years ago, we launched something, it didn't go well with sales. >> And we're talking, I say, what you did with the code. I just remember before, like, a programmer, so a cool dude, so you're different, you're 100% with money. So, big salaries, travel around the world. Now, it seems to me, they are being washed out a bit, and they feel it. Designers. When we, our crypto looks beautiful always. Oh, I remember there were four graphic designers, an art director, and then preview designers. >> There's not a single person. The quality is better than it was. In some specific moments, I can turn to a person for layout, >> yes, >> but it's instead of 400,000 for a salary of 20. >> Uh-huh. >> And exactly, when it's piecework. >> This means these people lost >> me, others, you. And this, you understand, how it is macro, well, this is going wide. It's the same with development. Accountants. Man, I see that a lot of people will be left without work worldwide in the next 5 years, and will be forced to go into manual labor, >> which will be relevant. Taxis are also a separate topic, right, Yandex is already driving around Moscow, around the center with these, well, you understand, autopilots, >> ah, >> you saw, right, they're driving. And this will cause such a boom. >> Uh-huh. >> People will protest, and unfortunately, the state, the state will have to support these people. They won't keep up. Do you think there will be a transition to universal income, which everyone will be given? >> Yes, these, of course, basic income, right? But they won't keep up. Just imagine. So, how does it always happen, right? People first protest, right, >> there are precedents, they see that it's complete nonsense, and then the state comes out: "Guys, we've figured it out, they don't work proactively, but already the consequences, when you see that unemployment is just off the charts, then >> and this is purchasing power in the world." I, I don't know, I've scared myself now, but I'm very worried about the future. I don't see a quiet harbor, not in terms of place, but in terms of environment and some kind of completeness of myself, the team, the tools. And I'm really scared. >> Yes. Well, by the way, I agree that many people will lose their jobs. Here, perhaps, one needs to be able to adapt. So, you said about developers. Developers, you know, are different, let's say. We worked with another person a long time ago, he worked at Roscosmos, he came to us as a technical lead. So, he's a developer, not just a developer who writes code, he's an architect, let's say. Architects, it doesn't matter where you do architecture, in building design or in application design. This profession is not easily replaceable, because if you put two people in front of an AI model, one knows what he wants to get, how everything works under the hood, and the other is coming for the first time, the difference will be colossal, because one knows how everything works, he has an understanding of how to build processes that will be assembled internally. Perhaps this will also be replaced in the future. It's hard for me to imagine how this will be replaced in the future, but architects, who maybe how this will be replaced in the future. that machines won't have the final say. You understand? There should still be an operator, >> who will do the final verification, like, yes, normal or not normal. Yes, maybe. What else? Here's why, you know, why it's scary and at the same time very good. And it's a big window of opportunity, because it's never been easier to start anything and make an exceptional product of very high quality, if you just do it not through AI, but through AI and yourself, let's say. You have a symbiosis of human and artificial intelligence, you can do much better. Why? How I think, how it all works under the hood for me, how I imagine it, is that a lot of people voluntarily delegate their thinking process to artificial intelligence. That is, what critically cannot be done. So, you can delegate problem-solving, data processing, design of what you initially want to achieve to artificial intelligence. >> Implementation of your plan. >> Implementation, yes. But if you delegate the thinking process, like, think for me, calculate this here, suggest some idea, you >> I'm not afraid of that at all, I'll bounce it off you. No, if sometimes it enriches you with information, that's also very important, it gives you a different perspective, you know, like, other sides, that it's not a square, but an octagon. He's like: "Damn, I really don't know about that." I've noticed this, especially with smart models, they're like: "Damn, that's cool, I wouldn't have even thought of those ideas." Sometimes it's very clear, and when he understands, but when you say: "Listen, come up with a business for me," figuratively speaking, that's another topic. Look, yes, >> okay, an adult, we're talking to each other, people who are already, uh, how to say it, who were born with computers, went through the path, they won't remove the skill of thinking, right, and roughly speaking, that the machine >> this is a big advantage. By the way, children, >> yes, >> who are today, for example, 7-8 years old, up to ten years old, the peak of this, you know, formation of neural connections, memory, experience, exposure. Like, they're put in front of a tablet >> and there >> they do their homework through >> Yes, this is very dangerous, I think. This is the effect that cannot be assessed now, how it will affect the future. So, your thinking process. I, you know, can just look at myself from my own experience of what I see. So, if you read crypto channels about crypto, you can determine in 0.1 seconds what is written with the help of, what is written by a real person. You only need one quick glance. >> Well, some say a glance, but I haven't found anything yet that I would say: "Guys, I give up." That it's one to one? >> Yes. Well, the story is that AI content, which is available right now, is significantly worse than human content simply because there is no thinking process behind it and no generation of some idea that a person wants to convey. And if you, even as a copywriter, you know, if you delegate writing text, and writing is the same as thinking. You see, there's such a thing that when you write, you think. If you don't write, you don't think. Sometimes you lead. I just sometimes write down some important moments, sometimes there's an impulse, you know, like, you stretch it out, you know, like, I don't know, pulling dough, so somewhere you made a mistake, moved, removed. So, such a process is like music, >> yes, 100%. I read your posts in the Sirlevy channel, right, and you can feel it there. So, you see that the posts are written by a living person who is trying to convey a thought, but they are not ideal, let's say, in terms of layout, everything, right, >> yes, but they are alive and they hook you. And they arouse interest. And precisely, as I said, there is no competition, because a person's pattern recognition works very easily, that is, if he is constantly exposed to content created through AI, it will be very easy for him to see content that is not created through AI, and it will stand out. And here is a big advantage, precisely, to get traffic, audience, and, in general, to work with this. >> And don't you think that this is a matter of a year, a year and a half, two years? >> I don't know, I don't know. For me, based on what I've seen, even considering this hyperjump that has occurred in the last six months, right, in the last 4-5 months, precisely in the development of AI models, texts are still written very poorly by any models, no matter how much you train them, how much of your text you stuff into them, it's very easy to read that this is very important, that it can write a technically correct text with all the correct definitions, the correct, I don't know, theses, you know, everything correct. But there is no value in this, and that's the point. Remember, we talked about the fact that the cost of a product is zero, the cost of a correct text is also zero. So, before, 5 years ago, I, for example, could write

A post about decentralized budgets, people are like: "Wow, oh, he figured it out, read the documentation, how commissions work there, it costs zero now." There is no value in me writing a correct post about how liquidity works, you can find that out yourself in 3 seconds. There is value in a person's personal experience, who has worked with information and presented it like, I think it's like this, like this, like this, like this. That will be great value, in my opinion, and it will attract attention. Not just dry text, because its cost is really zero. That is, the cost of ordinary factors is zero, the cost of a Wikipedia article is zero for an ordinary observer. Nobody needs it. This information is a dry extract. Context is important, as is advertising. Advertising is always a symbiosis of some kind of creativity and some data that shows a person and evokes emotion. Your dry text does not evoke emotion. >> Well, generally, advertising is a separate thing. I'll say now, I work with a team, I've spent so many nerves, I can just jump in with both feet, guys. This >> this is garbage. You know, I'm like this, well, I'm generally quite aggressive in my delivery, but I see that people who endure it, they grow. I say: "Let's look." Any thought can be expanded. It's very interesting to write about the rain, >> yes, >> you can do such metaphors for human life, yes, somehow close to the reader. And I recently wrote, we are supporting a crypto summit that is happening, yes, it's a basic event. I see their text, it's like crypto summit, then and then, date, bababa, >> yes, >> I say, I'm talking to the editor at all, Kiryukh, we need to make it beautiful so that the reader reads it, everyone is really tired of crypto events. And plus, it's objectively out of season now, yes, as it were, you need to generate interest and highlight the real value, which I primarily see. >> I say: "Listen, I see the value. Firstly, everyone is ready to communicate. You can communicate with anyone. >> Literally with anyone. Whether he's in a Brioni suit and Dior or in tracksuits. There will be few people. If you are energetic, approach, communicate, start a dialogue." That's at least a contact. One. Second point. In such a market, people, in my opinion, understand that selling in the crypto niche is difficult, and they are willing to speak up, to share the real thing, as it is, without Q&A, without references to events, as it is, they appear more often. And plus, >> Dubai. >> Uh-huh. The Dubai event season is over, generally, as in principle Dubai, yes? That is, the token was canceled, blockchain, I don't know, will be, and this is the closest point. That is, for a person with a Russian passport, where can he touch international speakers, events, just to see, because France, the US, well, that's another level of visa, expensive, long, and so on. I wrote it down, I look at the text: "Listen, they sold me." That is, >> they didn't shove this idea down my throat, >> but they highlighted its objective advantages, >> which people, you can see it through authorship, through experience, and you agree with this personal experience. And artificial intelligence cannot replace this, because it cannot live through the situation that you lived through. That is, only you have prospects for something. It has a general perspective from everyone combined, a mediocre temperature in the room, so to speak. Therefore, I don't see an opportunity here, in short, for a big leap in this regard, because it is incapable of living through human stories to then generate a unique perspective on something. This unique perspective on what? Even if it's wrong, not so attractive, it's yours. That's it. And this causes great interest. And this causes, well, attracts attention. This will be valued much more than just dry text. >> So, let's summarize this topic. There are different people, there are fans, stars, and so on, yes, there is some segmentation of people, in general, in subculture. Gitelman said, there are people 0.8, 1, 1.2. In general, I'll say, I've gone through about 200 people, gained sad and good experience. Let's say 5% of people are really cool. The rest, unfortunately, are direct. They wait, they lie, they deceive, they don't finish, they don't want to do anything. And, in general, this spectrum of human things is complex. And now it turns out that if you don't have your own creative entrepreneurial value, entrepreneurial value, you don't know if you'll open a shawarma place or a tech center, but to undertake, that is, to find like, damn, guys, why don't we open a coffee shop here, do this, well, some kind of plan here and that's it, you're like: "Damn, bro, yes, let's do it." Roughly speaking, some desire with your energy to change reality a little, yes, adequately. There is, because there are madmen in this regard, but sometimes they succeed greatly. Yes. But if you don't have these skills and if you've always been in such a state, you know, I play basketball, there are people there who are objectively stars, even in the Russian format, it's visible, their approach, energy, desire, they are stars, they feel it, they will always be, they believe in themselves. In general, this set. And there are people who just go with the flow, as if they don't claim anything, as if, and they used to live peacefully in the past paradigm, >> they were dragged along on the train. The economy, the system dragged them along. It was normal that there, let's take a number from my head, 20, 30, 40, 50% of people in the company are inefficient, but they are somehow needed and support something somewhere, fulfill it. Well, now Jack Dorsey recently fired some teams, and the shares went up, the paradigm has changed. This is a signal to the whole world that, guys, now only those who can, well, creativity. And now, what is most important, AI allows you to boost this. You know, I notice you. For example, I used to have a problem, I'm not so much into design, I can say like this: "Damn, I like this." Well, because, because I would have placed it here, used such a color scheme, but I didn't have the skills to write technical specifications in a professional language. It's a horror. Especially a 50-page technical specification, if. Well, it's a horror. Now I just go in and lay it out. I advised my partner, I said: "Listen, let's make an app." And we started discussing: "What kind of app do we need, a simple one for the product?" We looked at references, looked at competitors, and said it's difficult. Firstly, the colors are wrong, >> yes, >> which we need, they don't associate with money, with security. Secondly, it's cluttered. A person comes in, Aunt Galya, 45 years old, >> and she should have two buttons. >> We were like: "Yes, cool idea, let's do it." We removed everything unnecessary. The person sat yesterday for 6 hours with Claude, bought a subscription to it, it ended. But the result I saw not from the first iteration in 6 >> hours. Yes, as if I was like: "Well, we would hardly have found a designer, how much it would have cost for him to even offer us such options." >> Yes. >> And this is wow. >> This is a stop. You said that AI boosts. So, if you [ __ ] initially, AI won't help you. So, here's the thesis. If you couldn't do anything before AI, you won't be able to do anything with AI. This is just the basic truth. >> Most likely, you won't be able to with it, but rather the opposite, it will push you out, yes, you will be able to do even less. It will be easier to replace you. Therefore, even if you want to do something in the era of AI, I think you need to improve your own skills in any case, think independently, do not delegate the thinking process, do not delegate complex tasks. Why? There is such a story, I also used to think that education is not needed, but education is not needed not in the sense that the diploma is important. In the process of getting an education, you learn to solve complex problems. If before, you have a complex task, you can solve it in different ways. You can cheat from someone, you can hustle, find someone for a solution, you can go to the internet to search, you can take a picture of Wolfram Alpha, >> yes, >> a complex formula. That is, your brain starts to consider options on how to solve the problem. And the value of any education, I don't know, lies in the fact that you train your brain to cope with tasks that will constantly arise before you throughout your life. If you delegate this ability to artificial intelligence, you are very, well, forcibly castrating yourself, because you will not have these skills, and you will not even be able to do anything with artificial intelligence. This is very dangerous. I agree 100% about the boost. I also made an app that I couldn't have made even with a team of developers in six months. >> Yes. >> But solving everyday problems, yes, we'll slightly reduce the topic, because it's endless, you know, because there is also this, as they say, there is a toolkit that you can somehow use in reality for monetization, optimization. You know what? I clearly admit that I have a problem with numbers, that is, I don't have a logical-mathematical mind, although I am quite, I am a very logical guy, but not with a mathematical inclination. No, I love numbers, but, how to put it, in short, I don't. No, yes, conditionally, if we go on a trip with you now, like we're going on a trip, for you the word trip means different things for me. Well, roughly, we synchronize somewhere unconsciously, we have the same pictures, we watched the same movies, and so on, like, say, Africa, Indiana Jones, and so on. But you, for example, or I know other people who will think: how much? Flights, food, water, provisions, quantity, bam-bam-bam-bam, let's go, I will be different from another side. For example, for me it's emotions. What will we see, what company, what people, what if there's a risk, who will take a gun? So you understood, from different things. I realized this about myself a long time ago, I figured it out about three years ago. >> That's what's cool, that a little, well, not at a young age, but somehow it happened, I moved up a little and started to figure it out. You know, I remember one foreign agent said something like, it's hard for people to think about something great when you need bread, >> yes, >> you have to get it, so to speak. That's a fact. I somehow skipped this stage and started to figure things out. Some coaches started to appear, some interesting practices, something is garbage. I've done personality tests, MBTI analysis. I realized about myself, I truly realized it, that I am not omnipotent and math is difficult for me. There are many people who look at this and are effective in business, in matters. Now, with the help of AI, >> yes, >> for example, I need to calculate KPIs. A person is sitting there, for whom I calculated. I upload the models, >> I say: "Listen, based on my past data, suggest three options, forecast an improvement of 10-20%, and make a beautiful calculator" so that I can scroll, you know, like a fool, enter and do it. Everything, the task is solved. Now I have math. Cool. >> Now math is with me. Yes, I can calculate complex formulas, get a ready result in the form of visualization. And, as a consequence, for me, this is already a negotiation tool. >> That is, I can conduct negotiations well, but for math, I had to ask someone, make a table. >> In this regard, I, you know, when they ask me, I'm just the most progressive in AI in our team, the guys even tell me: "You just come and say: 'Here's a new model, here's a new model, how many models are there?'" Well, we understand, they are different, there are GPT codecs and so on, OpenCl. I have a Mac. But I always say, guys, there's a lot. I've gone through the path a little, very little, just a drop. >> Uh-huh. >> Take your >> practical real tasks that you do constantly. Transfer them. You launch a cycle. You're like, I'm now doing what I did before cheaper and better. And you start to get a taste while eating, rather than like, what should I do, maybe make a cartoon, you know, and that's it >> enthusiasm drops and so on. >> 100%. I agree. Regarding math and working with data in general, it's, well, a very, very powerful tool. And there, well, working with data, it doesn't require a large amount, it doesn't require creativity at all. You just have a table, and you have metrics, and you need to draw some conclusion or make a decision. You upload it and make a decision. Yes, this is super smart, this is a super cool story. As for, we talked about what people who just go with the flow, so to speak, and before the system carried them along. Now there is no option, in short, to sit on the bench and watch. >> Let's do it differently. Look, >> I don't claim, I don't want to be pelted with tomatoes, but we'll finish in this case. Let's talk from our paradigm, from our narrow-mindedness, from our box. I once heard something from Grebenyuk, this phrase belongs to him, but it's cool that life is divided, there are 10-20 years, 20-30, like stages. From 20 to 30, you become the best in something in the world, from 30 to 40 you monetize your accumulated skills. That is, from 40 to 50, you already breed supporting infrastructure for people, pass on knowledge, and then you receive from this other stage. And this is very logical, yes, because at 50 you don't have the same energy as at 20. For work, they are unlikely to communicate with you, well, in statistics, yes, it will be harder for you to start a business with young ambitious guys when you are 50, rather than when you are 20, conditionally, but when you are 50, you have more wisdom, knowledge, and approaches. In short, it's a very complex thing. >> Let's take 10 to 20 years. In your opinion, what should be done? >> Fuck, good question. 10-20 years, learn, learn. Learn, learn. Not learn something specific, but learn to acquire new skills and knowledge and do it so that this process is imprinted in your head, fixed, and it's not like something new comes out, and you don't understand how to learn it. That is, this is a big advantage of the previous generation, >> who learned by hand, there was no artificial intelligence, so now AI appears, and you, in short, can learn it. You are not old, >> you are tired, and you don't understand how it works, because you have the skill to learn. So, I think 10-20 years is 100% about understanding how to better stuff information into yourself and then convert it into practical skills that you can use to do something, solve some problem. >> Uh-huh. I agree 100%. I'll add something else, you know? Accept that it's possible that something will come from the previous generation. I was recently in the gym and overheard a conversation between two young men, they were a little older than me, they were talking about traditional education, about a diploma, >> and its advantages. They were exchanging ideas and also, well, yes, the diploma taught me to solve some tasks, but still, as if it, well, and it all came down to the fact that they were still trying to find value in it, >> some value. Ah, and the point is that this young generation needs to develop the distinction of this operator. This should be done by parents, of course. This person, first of all, will probably not watch this podcast, he won't come to these thoughts himself. You have very progressive youth now, very progressive, yes, because, well, it's unclear, some might be hanging around in stairwells, but not anymore, everyone lives on the internet now, and there is information, and all these subcultures are leaving. Whoever joins the right subculture with the right idols, well, not the right ones, but with some, well, you understand, those that are effective for further development, they get hooked, when the youngest with energy and there is unreal potential, >> yes. It's not about understanding that your skill, which you acquired before, for example, with a pickaxe, >> using AI, you do something with a pickaxe, it can easily be devalued, >> but before, when you do it, you need to quickly launch it into production. This is, you know, like that thing too. It's about personality types. There are people who wait a long time, think a long time, plan a long time, and there are those who just want to do it. Like, do everything that's available now. What do I have? I have a camera, damn, everything, let's make a video. And someone will think in their head. And this approach of doing everything for a long time, in my opinion, it can pay off, but it is less effective than people who, I watched, read channels, they are making startups, they are making AI startups on Y Combinator, etc. They live these companies. No, now we are positioning ourselves differently. And speed is super important. Quality, speed is a graph. Now, let's say 20 to 30 years. >> Ooh, well, well, damn, I would have said one thing before, now I probably want to say something else. But I don't know, I'll speak from my own experience, as if, well, 20-30 years, you just finished talking about beer, you constantly need to change something. I probably think that I don't quite agree. I agree that the less time it takes from an idea to implementation, the higher your success rate in getting something working. >> Yes, even the number of iterations, >> yes, the number of iterations. And because people can sit on one idea for a year, others will try 20 in a year, and one of them will hit, in short, that's what it's about. And you, in short, AI has now significantly reduced this gap between an idea and its realization into a real product. Therefore, you can, in short, quickly iterate through different options, you have many iterations, you can test different hypotheses, but, in my opinion, from twenty to thirty, you need to become a super top in something, in something that will be relevant for, well, preferably your whole life. That which will always be relevant, with which people will constantly come with some request, problem, and you will solve this problem better than everyone else. That's 20 to 30 years. Then, well, I think that's it. >> A cool answer. >> I have a slightly different picture of it. By the way, we almost touched on this topic. I >> this idea recently came to my mind, when it appeared itself, it's related to the theme of potential unemployment and a changing world, devaluation. That now value will be. We see how the world, yes, it's closing, platforms, everything. That is, the world, it's mine, it's important, it doesn't work together. >> But there is such a thing as permission. >> We still live in states with, as it were, rules, with, some, others. And there is such a thing as permission. When you are allowed to do something, >> you are an exclusive distributor. Of what? You have an exclusive. Wow, that's a cool thing. You can not be particularly smart, >> you understand the logic, yes? Not particularly progressive, but you have a competitive advantage. You are allowed to work with companies like SpaceX, which supply >> for the defense industry, and so on. All these things. We understand that there are subsidies, clan history, we won't go into that. >> Let's just go down a floor. Many assistants have gone through me, >> personal assistants. Most of them didn't stay. Some stayed, some grew very strongly. And what did I understand? And I look at myself, that unfortunately, I didn't have this. Maybe I had some other teachers, >> older comrades, but it's very cool when you are 20-30 years old. Firstly, everything you said, yes, you must be on-trend, knowledgeable, you must be attractive to people who are a step above you >> and see in you >> that energy, direct it in the right direction, give it the right resources. He will do it. Well, >> well, energy is a very important thing. I see it in adults, in myself too. Youth is cooler, >> yes, >> around 19-18 years old. And I would create a context where I am attractive in the modern world, not in terms of intimate services, >> yes, >> style, in terms of knowledge, >> problem-solving, all of that, that you are such an independent person who comes with a solution, or even better, with a vision of how to implement it, rather than with a problem, and I would try to join some kind of resource, let's call it that, cloud. It could be a person, a clan, a group, a company, a team, >> who are already on higher floors, >> and they extend this thread to you, a rope, and pull you, a super-capable person >> onto a springboard, and you, since it's easier >> you know, like I remember when I was recording with a prop trader, a great episode, it didn't get any views at all, >> well, they do prop trading with funds, he told me something like this, how they, their honest prop trading, honest, not like this scam in crypto. or they earn on tariffs, honestly. >> Yes, it exists in Fondee, it's honest. And he told me how he selects them. 100 people come, >> they select. They have a specific trader profile. >> Who do you think has such a trader profile, to train a person and give him money in the end after a year? >> Through heads. Oh, a difficult question. Trader profile. Ability to >> absorb information. >> I'll expand on what I was told. I was stunned by the answer. First, >> economic education, preferably related to economics, but, well, you should be in the know, >> yes? >> Second, single. >> And up to 25 years old, >> yes? >> Why single up to 25 years old? Because your energy doesn't go into unnecessary channels. And if you follow this chain, get involved, get involved, get involved, absorb, you become a person who gives, so this is part of your life. And as long as you are willing, because there are people who have the opportunity, they don't use it, and they are content with little, rather than what they could get. Laziness comes, people don't need much, actually. That is, an apartment, a taxi, a car, a vacation twice a year, food, a filled refrigerator, Netflix on the TV, you understand, a foot massager, everything. That is, this is our comfort zone, which is a super fear for a man. That's it, you will stagnate. And therefore, while you are young, greedy, perhaps offended in a good sense, yes, angry, ready, this is exactly what should be pushed, and with the right context, and with people who pull you up, I think it's a super combination, >> yes, it sounds very powerful. >> That is, to skip there from 20 to >> there from 30 years >> what people don't skip in their whole lives. >> Yes, yes, that's cool, >> yes. So I advise everyone this. I say: "Damn, find your patron who will believe in you, you will believe in him, you will understand the value of this and the person will open doors for you." >> Well, you know, it requires, well, more effort, let's say. >> It's not, it's a super strategy. It's, yes, it's a super strategy that will require 10 times more input. >> Why do I say that? Because of the resources accumulated by the older generation before. We know that in Russia, there was a privatization process, in the US, there was Old Money, >> yes, >> there are old companies, and so on.

There are very many various things. Capital is at 95%. All, all capital is at 95%. Oh, there are 5% for three even, >> yes, damn, for 2%. Well >> 2%. These people are old, they are dying. It's understandable, if we take the top guys, they already have funds. But if we take below, uh, everything, everything is already long ago. Capitalism. In short, when this capitalism was developing very aggressively at its peak, I believe it was from the nineties. >> Uh-huh. >> From the nineties to, let's say, 2010, let's take this period. And it reached Russia, among other places. >> Money, oil is booming, technology, open world, some redistribution is already happening. And people have accumulated, >> yes, >> and have fixed themselves in this. And they can't be pushed out of there anymore, unfortunately. >> Yes, facts. >> Yes, >> damn, interesting. Yes, I >> and plus, the permission, the format of permission also works, when the state comes to this, especially when the cost of a product, code, devalues, then everyone can do, >> what they want, their own marketplace, for example. >> I understand, it's Wildberries, there are sellers, reviews, but technically it's like, >> yes, but technically, but there's no distribution. And what's the point? >> So, the state will protect Wildberries in order to, well, somehow create it, work with the market. Yes, well, I don't think that, in short, small startups will be able to eat up some big giant, so to speak, because big giants have distribution, they have trust. That's it. And, in short, it's very difficult to disrupt something that is already working in the long run, even if you can do it 1,000 times cheaper than these guys did it 5 years ago or 10 years ago. >> Most likely, these people understand this, they understood long ago where to create a field of permissions, bureaucracy. They have the resources, they catch it, so the game becomes more difficult. Probability. We are not saying it's impossible. It's just that, most likely, in general, it will be more difficult. And therefore, it's easier to join an already large ship, yes, a vessel, so to speak, and there >> develop some kind of lifeboat department, so to speak, yes, >> yes, yes, 100%. I think that if we sum up 20-30 years, what else is important? In short, all people pay other people for solving problems. This is the only task, which is important to understand, to keep in mind, that if you solve other people's problems better than others and more effectively than others, you will be paid money. If AI can solve the problem, you won't be paid. So, in short, you need to grow competencies in an area where there are many problems, and where people crave solutions to these problems. And this market is underserved, because AI either cannot solve these problems now, or there are simply too many dilettantes who cannot cope with the influx of incoming problems and requests for solutions to these problems. Then everything will be okay. This is exactly it. And the better you solve these problems, the more money you will be paid for solving these problems. That's it. And AI can simply complement your efficiency here and be leverage, so to speak. That's it. But I think that it's also important, based on not falling into the category of people who will receive basic income, you need to take care. In short, let's go back to the meta, yes. If there was a meta where you go to work, get money, buy a house, car, apartment, and everything is fine, it ended after the end of the gold standard in 1971, now the meta is, of assets, both intellectual assets that you create, and real assets that you can live on. Because you said that there are very many pivots and everything is constantly changing. And even now, it's like you can be a super top in your field, you don't know what the field will be like in 5 years, right? So your field can be disrupted, and you're done, you'll be left with nothing, and you'll have to come up with something new. If you don't have assets, even just money, so to speak, in the bank, that you can live on, it will be very difficult to stand firmly on your feet, because you won't have time. In short, the system is now destroying the middle class, right? So you are either super rich or super poor, it's impossible to stay in the middle. And in 5 years, there are no options for you to just live as you live now, with the same level of comfort, income, and expenses. That's it. And you need to accumulate some assets that you can then use to withdraw money. I find it very strange to observe, of course, in Russia, no one understands this. In the USA, they understood this long ago. After the transition, even Kiyosaki, right, his basic book about the quadrant, right, four stages. Assets, income from assets, you have the opportunity to live on investments, there is leverage. In Russia, everyone thinks that credit is bad, that leverage is scary, it's dangerous, we won't take loans. Loans make you poor. There's even Dave Ramsey in the USA, you know, the guy who says: "Get out of debt, loans are bad, save money" in 401. That's right. And he's very popular because he says: "Advice for the masses, well, understandable for everyone." But you won't be able to break into a good standard of living in the future this way. Because when you say 50 years, you'll have little energy left. You'll already, in short, at 50 years old, you should have assets, some capitalization of something, or a company that you created and then sold, exited. You need to direct it somewhere. Without this, it will also be incredibly difficult. >> Well, let's take a person, say, starting point at 20 years old, >> yes? Like, you know, like he told himself from the future, like, bro, the world is tough, these guys are talking about something complicated. Choose a strategy, >> yes, >> Libovsky, like, don't worry, like, >> but >> well, like, what would he tell him so that he wouldn't end up on the sidelines of this world at 50, right? So, as a consequence, as a reason not to end up, create assets, money, let it not be temples, you understand, no, but it's some kind of self-created, unconditional basic income. That's it, >> yes, damn, a difficult question at all. All investments are always a consequence of the fact that you are already standing quite firmly on your feet, you have a good income, and you understand that I have enough to invest money, and I can invest part of it. But most people invest, in short, horizontally. What does that mean? There's money, I received a salary or income from business, I paid expenses for, in general, my whole life, and I have some amount of money left, I invest it, and a dollar works like a dollar. So here it's just a linear story, where there is no multiplier, no rapid growth. How I see it, you need to use the opportunities that exist. This is leverage. Leverage is the eighth wonder of the world. Leverage can be both a super dangerous and a super effective way to increase your capital. Especially working in the USA and in countries where you have a loan. You can take a loan for money, for assets, without selling them. That's what, for some reason, most people still don't understand. Warren Buffett became rich not because he sold stocks on time, but because he never sold them. He didn't sell them. He took loans, and Musk. He has huge capitalization of Tesla because he takes loans against stocks. He doesn't sell his company's stock. He never sold, not a single share sold during the entire operation of Tesla. So, if we take the development line from 20 years and above, first, what you need to focus on is skills, abilities to solve problems, increasing your own basic income, and as early as possible start using assets, using, using loans. That's it. Because don't be afraid of loans, that's what will immediately increase your capital accumulation speed significantly, by tens of times. Well, and this applies to Russia >> this is not just a long, this is not a long with leverage for Russia, for example, let's take then just >> a person earns, say, 150,000 rubles, say, 2,000 dollars, >> yes? Yes. If after his expenses nothing is left, then you don't need to invest yet. So, in short, the essence of investment is that you can save a lot constantly, stably. And if you can't do that, you invest everything in your own development. Well, if you have a business, you understand that you will invest 100,000 dollars, you will get a million at the exit, you don't need to invest. You have 10x in business planned. If there is no such opportunity, you understand that you will grow gradually and stably. You most likely need to, in short, buy some assets. Well, this is a complex topic, I don't want to go into investments, because there are many different people with different opinions. Just risk, in short, many think that haircuts and investments in general are a super risky story. You have two sides. The risk that the system is built in such a way that currency devaluation will inevitably leave you with nothing if you don't invest. It's impossible to avoid this risk. It will happen with 100% probability. It's already happening, if you look at the charts. And the second option is if you do something with your money, invest, create capital. There is also a risk here, but here you can at least manage it. You have, in short, these buttons, you can press something, and something will work here. Here you have no options. You will lose 100% here if you don't work with the money you earned, somehow place it correctly. So everyone makes this choice for themselves. Do I want to lose 100% while feeling the illusion of security, or do I want to win, but not with a 100% chance? I have a chance to become a very, so to speak, stably rich person, rich in assets, not just nominal money. There's a big difference. I think that in the era of AI development, this stability is what people want. I looked at the statistics that 45% of people, even currently living in the USA, will not be able to live to the end of their retirement. That is, they won't have enough money to live to the average age at which people die. Half of the people in the USA won't make it. They won't have enough pension savings. And this is for those who have money for pension savings. And some have none at all. Some have zero savings. So they can't live on a pension. And this gap will only widen. And it needs to be, well, to think about it in advance. So I understand that when I'm 60 years old, I'll hardly be able to work. Like, as I can work now, I won't have as much energy, I won't have as much time, I won't have as much strength. And most likely, I won't even have the desire, you know, to work myself to death every day for 10 hours. >> Well, we'll talk about this topic now. Let me transition to it right away. And now for the positive, AI, biotech, and so on. By the way, I wrote a post about the fact that the richest people who accumulate all the capital, have accumulated all the capital, they are old, they will soon die, they are very elderly. Look at the age of Elon Musk and others, he's not 15 years old, so he's already quite old, right? >> Yes. >> So it's understandable that some billionaires have a lifespan of over a hundred, Buffett and his partner have already >> guys. Well, what is definitely happening? There are some technologies that are not accessible to the masses, >> but one way or another, the world is developing, and crumbs still fall to us from the big table, and people's lifespan is increasing, >> yes, >> and most importantly, the quality of this life is increasing, including. And AI is also contributing to this, actually, because you no longer need to spend a lot of cognitive resources to solve problems. You just need to direct, invent, describe. And the task can be solved. That's also a plus, by the way. Let's remove AI. That's it, we've finished. I live in a paradigm where we've moved to, say, 2030, but in reality, these boundaries have also blurred. Now 30-45 is also, even 50, is also, in reality, a very active age, having >> nootropics, medicine, the opportunity to choose food, right, the environment, context, and so on, right, what will nourish you with energy from the non-material, how it increases quality. I sometimes watch videos of people on HRT, hormone replacement therapy, right? It's clear, like Trump and all those rulers, well, at 70-80 years old, they are certainly active because they are on something. It's no longer produced. The urge would be to die from hunting a mammoth, from war, so you've passed on your seed. Now it's artificially increased. This is also a tag, by the way. I'm sure globalists are thinking about this. Like Pandora's Box. So, the final theory. So, I'll just touch on its surface, read it later. Imagine, there used to be viruses, like the Spanish flu and others, that wiped out entire populations. That is, the weak die, the strong, whose body is stronger and more capable, survive, spread their genes further. Evolution. The strong live, move on, the weak die. >> The same people with, say, deviations, right, some kind of, >> eccentrics and so on in culture, in history, they were always on the sidelines and so on. But now everyone is equal, everything is possible for everyone. Vaccinations and so on. The weak, objectively weak in health, live. Yes. >> And this also greatly affects evolution, a mix, right, like a saw, well, like, like, strength, if you take it as the >> trunk of people's lives, it's like a little bit from the inside, like a Trojan horse. That's it, this topic is now. But further, people who are on HRT, right, I see people who are 55 years old, men, they have no limits, they are ready to tear everything apart, energy is bursting, right, this, I don't know how long it will last, again, resources are needed for this, by the way, it's not >> 100 rubles, it's not metro fare, so, properly speaking, if you take 2-4,000 dollars every month, including tests and so on, four grand a month, but the quality, yes, >> will be unreal. I recently wrote a goal for myself on my phone. I write down a lot of thoughts, I never even return to them. Sometimes I return. Well, in short, when something gets stuck, I load it. I wrote to myself, like, damn, this is the goal for which it is worth living, working at all, >> yes? >> Because the world is developing, earning is worth it in order to, uh, spread yourself around the world, but let's remove that, in order to be like Sean Penn at 50, right? Yes. He's fighting battle after battle. He's taken a lot of damage, well, he's very old, >> but he looks cool, he lives, he flies around, he's an activist, he's on the move. Look at him. Elderly people in Russia, the majority, unfortunately, don't have that, their sun doesn't blind them so much. And this is to the point that >> the future is still more optimistic in my opinion, rather than pessimistic. >> I don't entirely agree. In short, and 100% what I wrote, I agree with it myself, but you said that the quality of life has increased, and this fact, it's stupid to argue with it, and the statistics of any, in short, indicators. What was there 100 years ago, and what is there now, it's like heaven and earth. But people feel 1,000 times worse. That is, people now live like kings lived, say, 150 years ago, in terms of service and accessibility, but they feel worse than a peasant with a stick 150 years ago, because there is a gap. A huge gap between, say, the upper class, right, and the lower class. That is, people look, and the entire media space and the whole world is built in such a way that you constantly see people who are more successful than you, stronger than you, more energetic than you, richer than you, better than you, and you see them every day. Hundreds, maybe thousands of people flash before your eyes if you are active on the internet, who surpass you in all parameters. And this is considering that the quality of life is very high, even if you are just an ordinary person, you have everything, everything is fine, you feel good. That is, to die on the street from hunger, right, is impossible, it's a task, so to speak, >> with an asterisk. >> That's it. But you feel incredibly bad psychologically, because you think, you're not keeping up, you're late, I'll never achieve this in my life. And you feel your own inadequacy, because this has become the new standard, as if. Yes, and other people, your friends, not even bloggers, but others always show only the best sides. >> You think you're a complete outsider. >> Yes, 100%. If before, when there were mammoth times, right, you didn't see a large number of people, you could only compare yourself. That is, you saw a guy with a slightly bigger club than yours, probably, and that's it. And that was it. >> Well, yes, the chief, yes. And that's it. And you had, like, 100 people in the tribe. That is, you didn't see a huge, a huge gap between your buddies and some other guys. Now this gap is huge. And I think this is also part of what influences why people feel less energetic. When you don't see motivation, your body won't, in short, release energy if you don't see meaning, so to speak, in life. So you have depression statistics at an all-time high. Now, in 2026, you have an all-time high depression worldwide, although the standard of living is also all-time high, >> yes, >> and at the same time, this correlation is in the opposite direction, because people are not satisfied with what they have here and now. They always compare themselves to someone higher. >> I answer myself in the following way. Awesome topic, just a bomb. First, I don't remember the author, >> he wrote a book in the sixties, I read an excerpt, and he, like, how insightful he voiced everything. It's related to the fact that technologies will develop at such a pace that, unfortunately, our, we have the neocortex, right, which is this modern abstract planner, designer, part of the brain that is responsible not just for, like, a sudden sound and jump, right, or the limbic system, which is like, I love this, my son, or love, right, emotional, but specifically for planning, the future, risks, potentials, illusions, these forecasts, it starts to malfunction. And this is related to ADHD, because it can't keep up, well, because it's a failure. That's right, an old robot, well, I don't know, we're trying to plow asphalt with a plow, right, it doesn't work. He said that the world will accelerate so much that in these constant shifts of narratives, right, a person will experience basic stress because he will always be late. This just needs to be acknowledged. There will always be information. We all read, watch videos, read posts, see their headlines, save them somewhere and never return to them. Why do we do this? Because I want to become better, well, I'll postpone it for later. And this accumulates like a snowball. Super stress. Fear of missing out. I remember when I was learning to speak in public, I talked to a girl who gave one lesson on "Public Speaking Skills." She told me that public speaking skills used to be the scariest. Number one in the world, >> especially there. >> But now no. >> FOMO. >> FOMO. >> Fear of missing out on profit. That you're late. First place, everyone is missing out. I'll even recommend something to our viewers now. He won an Oscar. Damn, when I say such things, the Oscar is not banned in Russia, it's not an indigenous organization. Maybe? Well, yes, it's scary. Like, I want to say something, these "Bup" are not banned. And I watched the movie. I recommend it to viewers. I recommend it to you, a drama, it won best, it's the best foreign film, it's called "The Zone of Interest." A very interesting plot, it's like for people, well, you need to watch it, empathize, sympathize. And there's the same theme of FOMO from the perspective of human relationships, family development, which are also present, actually, especially from the female side. Uh-huh. >> And men too, of course, marriages, but men, I think, it's easier. We are just more, especially valuable men, but there are more, right. Girls too. I feel so sorry for them, damn it. So many wonderful girls and there are no men. Like, enough to cover their needs. >> Yes. >> Also FOMO. >> FOMO. Further FOMO. I posted about the hero's journey in my channel. I believe that this monomyth works everywhere. You, me, especially for such males, so to speak, the hero's journey, like a call. You are not satisfied with the current situation. You take, look for companions, >> the initiation process, >> yes, yes, the process, yes, the Bible, all religions, The Matrix, films - this is a classic myth, a monomyth that is easily deciphered by humans. All films are actually written according to it. And there is another thing, actually. There is >> the heroine's journey. >> Uh-huh. >> A new term in the States. They are always ahead in psychology, always ahead of the planet. And this is a terrible thing. When I talk to girls, I tell them about this. I just throw it in, you know, in conversation. I see how, first of all, they don't like it, and secondly, they like it. Why is this inside them? >> And what is the heroine's journey about? >> When a woman accepts the path of a man, a hero, looks at her mother, that she raised children, >> yes, >> and in the hierarchy of the world, on the leaderboard, she is not Jeff Bezos, >> you understand, like she's not Instasamska, you understand the logic, >> but she has fulfilled an important evolutionary role, >> yes? Without which there's no way. >> Well, she's an outsider. >> Yes. >> That's it. Mom in the kitchen, so to speak. The path where I am a dependent woman, I give birth, I carry, I take care of the household from the hunter-gatherer, from industrialization at all. This is especially true, yes, for women. Well, you understand, right, I'm a hunter, a warrior, and you're at home, children. That's it, I deny it in myself, I deny femininity and go the path of the hero, the man, career, achievements. >> But for women, first of all, it's harder. Uh-huh. And most of them still come to the stage of 35-40 years old, this last cycle, when she understands biologically that it's time to have children, and falls into depression, because the path she chose and followed is not her true path. She >> and it's also a consequence of FOMO, that women also avoid FOMO, that they are not keeping up. >> Yes, all of this, yes, FOMO is everywhere. It's all-encompassing in all aspects. Communication with people too. Don't lose profit. Better to communicate, better to promise, better to say. Especially in Moscow, this is felt. People talk a lot. I found the following way out of this. >> Also subject to it in my own way, right. Well, it so happened that I have a little more serotonin than most people. I'm so positive. I came to a company once, and they told me, everyone there is like: "How old are you?" And they look at me, you can see I'm thirty. I say: "How so?" They say: "You smile a lot." Got it? I say: "Wow, you guys." Like, damn, like, should I be sad? I answered myself as follows. First, I understood about myself, honestly, before myself, that it's impossible to become poor. Well, you can go bankrupt, well, like.

You will not die. You will also be able to go to the cinema, watch movies, see someone, ride a scooter, travel, buy tickets. That is, yes, maybe it won't be some Rolls-Royce, not a Supercharger Rxus, and who cares about that at all. You can go to Sochi for 50,000 rubles with tickets to snowboard whenever you want and ride on the slopes. Yes, maybe there won't be that feeling of power from it, that like I've closed off the slope where everyone wants to go, into real power, like blocking all the roads here, that's cool, a man wants that, but it's not accessible to everyone. And you can live without it too. And when you ride a bike, you, especially in this regard, you pump up cool, you understand that one t-shirt, one cap for 800 rubles, a quick-release bike. And you feel very good. >> While you are young. I don't know what will happen in the future, but it's a question of state. >> And we talked about life, that it's being extended. Beauty is also being extended, >> right? >> Ah, and the second thing I told you, uh, first, you need to accept that you can't earn all the money. And the most valuable thing I have is freedom. >> Uh-huh. >> Ah-ah, this is what I'm always ready for. Here's energy, that I don't know that all this, there are people here, like, that's it, I don't know what to do. While this energy is there, it fuels me and my traveler's path, >> yes. damn, it can lead me to different things, different interesting people, conclusions. And the most important thing, how I sell it to myself, will ultimately be reflected in my this state, whether I am perfect or not perfect. Whether I let go, possibly not letting go. But >> that doesn't mean you have to go into Buddhism. >> Extremes, yes, these are extremes. The presence of good stress, it allows, especially a man, to move. Well, that is, in the format of, damn, what the hell, like, I'm not in a Ferrari, >> for good reason, >> yes, >> dude, what are you doing that you're in a Ferrari, >> not from a position of envy, you know, >> yes, that you I used to have one, by the way, I remember, a long time ago, about five years ago, and I got rid of it a long time ago. So for me, even some kind of, well, in short, a not very publicly accepted person. Maybe I didn't walk around in slippers. If he has something, he has something that I can pick out from him 100%. Yes, a paradigm. You start in this FOMO stress, >> damn, it would be nice. to buy a car, yes, maybe it's not a bad asset and so on, emotions and you start doing something, you make a purchase, a mistake, >> or vice versa, not a mistake for energy, you gain experience, you move on. FOMO as stress that we are late somewhere, it's not just that someone imposed it on us in the world, it's inside us biologically, yes, there's little food left, we need to kill a mammoth, but it's just that everything has accelerated so much and from everywhere, from every video, that this loads us a little bit. >> Yes, damn, cool. I'll expand on the topic of FOMO a bit further. No, I don't think FOMO is biologically ingrained, well, the FOMO that most people experience now, because your FOMO is related to wanting something you don't actually need. Well, for survival, let's say. If you killed a mammoth in ancient times, you have enough mammoth for a whole month, and you see that another guy killed three mammoths. And back then, it wasn't like that. He killed three mammoths, took a photo, posted it on social media, a girl writes to him, yes, likes, and you think that you are [ __ ] in short, you are missing something. So. This is what makes you move. And possibly you want this, and that's good. But if you don't want this, it's bad. That is, if you start doing something you don't actually need, just to not feel like you're late, it's a bad manifestation of FOMO. Regarding FOMO. This is also why there is less competition now? Because now, perhaps, one of the most valuable skills in the era of AI is the ability to maintain focus on one thing. This will be very difficult to do. And it's difficult now because something is constantly happening, new updates, new trends, narratives, boom-boom-boom, everything is updated. And people who can maintain focus on one thing will progress further than those who will constantly jump from topic to topic. Well, it's always been like that. That is, laser focus on crystal, pure focus on one thing will give you good results. So. And regarding FOMO, FOMO is experienced 100%, there's nothing clear to do about it. I like Smekha's quote that a poor person is not one who has little, but one who always has not enough. So. This is a poor person, you can have anything, if you think I need more, you are in a position of poverty. And a rich person is one who knows how much is enough for him and where he will not go further, consciously making the decision that, that's it, this is fine for me, I don't want more, for me, this is normal. And even if he sees other people around who are cooler, richer, higher status than him, he makes a conscious decision that he doesn't want this. But only if he truly doesn't want it, not using it as an excuse, you know, like I don't want to date girls. I'm like, I don't know >> Iman. And this can also be his strategy for some kind of benefit, like, yes, I'm like this, I'm a non-conformist, so to speak, or not like you. >> Possibly, yes, but I just think people often use, in short, when you have the opportunity to refuse something and you refuse, that's one thing, and when you don't have the opportunity to get something and you refuse, that's another. That is, you, for example, I don't want to become rich because I >> not in the format, you know, how I describe myself differently, I, for example, love to eat >> and I love to eat a lot. Yes, well, I'm a big guy, in short, like. Well, and I notice with you that this is one of my sins, as it's called gluttony, right? So I used to love to overeat, especially. And I catch myself thinking. Well, with age, it comes, like: "Damn, let's have a chicken breast and a salad, that's enough." I think ahead that yes, in the moment I will eat, I will want more in half an hour, I will be full. >> Yes, for example, there's a buffet. I remember when I was a child, I came with my parents to Egypt, so to speak, and there, and you just, you just take all this pasta, and they look at you, like, damn, well, take it, eat, go take more. It's not going anywhere. But this is not in my opinion. You know, instinctive things that have remained from hunters and gatherers at all, right, that, why does a person overeat, get fat, even though the refrigerator is always full. That is, the mammoth will not leave, it is always in the room, right, cut up and so on. That is, it's cheap, but we are still working on the old automatisms, programs, which in the modern world, as I said, like our neocortex, are slightly damaged. And I'm the same, yes, I recently saw something, and it came from two places, that the amount of testosterone directly correlates with intelligence. Uh-huh. >> The lower the testosterone, the more of a clerk you are, so to speak, you sit there, like, that's it, you are, well, this is an archetype I described. That is, the lower the testosterone, the smarter you are. >> Uh-huh. >> That's true. >> That's true. That's true. I think so. But we are stupid, >> yes. >> Yes. What, what to do with FOMO, >> damn? I answer myself like this. Just with expectations. Let's do this. Formulate, I don't know, sit down, describe this picture that worries you, for example, like, I won't be a super-rich, cool guy. >> Uh-huh. >> Well, like, a fact, right? The fact that there's a chance, one in a thousand, one in a million. The expected value is like that. Uh, to be offended that you didn't win the lottery is very rash, right, like the Stoics, right, like to grieve for grapes in winter is foolishness, like, yes, and for a deceased person, as strange as it may sound, not strange, but scary, he is gone. >> And it means negative emotions, they, well, are generally inappropriate, >> it's impractical. >> And, uh, act pragmatically. I like the pragmatic approach. By the way, regarding FOMO, there is such a guy, I often recommend his books and courses, he influenced me a lot. Alexander Tarasov, like, he has a Dalin school of managers, but he's not really about business. He throws in other things, like Sun Tzu, like, uh, Henry Ford, their treatises of old commanders. Very interesting things. He writes, he interprets, >> yes, and he voiced such a thing that a person dies, ages, dies, as soon as he loses a stimulus, a goal, and so on. There are people who, he said about himself: "I have a goal beyond my life." And he is really an old man, very old, and he is like: "I feel this energy." The example with Yeltsin is also there. I read it, that when he finished, or was still in power, he was tired of all this. He himself is a collective farmer, so to speak, from a collective farm, yes, and he went into gardening, like, well, he understood, he didn't need this power anymore. And he really aged in moments, very quickly, in a short period. And this is about something beyond your life and about what you really want to do, which is a very difficult task. To jump off this, like, "bro, you want to build houses?" Damn, but how, I have food, children, obligations, loans? This is a very big question for oneself, because everyone has something, but maybe it's not what I won't want to do after some time, but maybe it won't be that. This is a very difficult thing, the most difficult. I sometimes envy people who have great resources, but I haven't been in their shoes, so I don't know either. Maybe they have other things in their heads, but it seems to me, there must be one's own path of tension, one's own hero's journey. Yes. Yes. Ah, but here, most likely, there is some kind of, for example, what you really like inside, like, the brain, the heart, >> yes, the body, what you like. I was recently in an establishment, and a person just threw an idea at me with an egg. He said: "Leo, imagine an egg as a kind of buffer, a filter, now everyone is suffering, a lot of content, deepfakes, who knows what." You are generally, you are controlled by headlines. Your worldview is formed by headlines. You don't even know if it exists or not. Yes, it's like I was just talking about Messenger Max. Have you heard? Yes, we don't know if he's good or bad. All these Reels that pop up, where some guy with a shaky camera, who is he, what is he, why is he talking about this? Because he's commissioned from enemy countries, so that I don't know this and therefore I'm not ready to say my own win, right, I'm like, "duh," and the person tells me: "And imagine an egg-like platform, some kind of entity, where you, that's it, you no longer sit on social networks, you no longer read news resources, that's it, you withdraw from everything, you focus on one thing, on some kind of intelligence that for you already, >> yes, >> takes 80% of the filtration, >> yes, I think about it. Wow. So. So. This will free up your attention, time so much and allow you to hit one point. >> Yes. And where will it come from? It will filter information from the same headlines. >> This is already a product, the final product. That's it, you give up everything and get something tailored for you, possibly pre-configured, trained, through some iterations. Well, something of yours, maybe with additional information, with fact-checking across different niches, >> yes. I'm like: "This is something this world really needs." And I had such a response inside, >> yes. >> And this is exactly about doing what you want, because it's beneficial. I didn't even think about it, damn, I'll earn billions. No, this is wow. This is, you know, like you bring something, but you buy the idea, forget about it, stop developing it. It's also important to start, where there is energy, to go create a pilot, to see how to involve people here. >> And you do the usual things that are necessary to maintain your avatar, let's call it an avatar in the future. And this is also, this is also what really gnaws at me, yes. It's interesting how it is now with a psychologist, yes. >> Yes, and I would like everything, and precisely to do what you want. And when you still make a conscious choice there, Uh-huh. >> accept the price of all this, because everything has its price, a lot of work, success, absence of family, relationships, and family relationships with small resources, absence of career, yes, motorsports, high speeds, risk of death, yes, professional basketball, sports, risk of injury, 30 years and a wreck, >> what you buy, the price. And are you ready to give up, if you agree with yourself, you sell it to yourself, you make a conscious choice for a period, at least for an iteration, and you go there. This, by the way, for me, too, people who do this, about realization, right? That is, it's not, you know, like, damn, I got a signal in my head, >> yes? >> It's about a very balanced, subjective, with an evaluative judgment choice. >> Uh-huh. >> I've taken it on, guys, I'll finish it, I'll build this house, and after that, maybe I won't do it anymore. But I'll build the house, because, because, because I sold it to myself. This is a very strong thing. Choice and focus as a consequence. This is what comes out and as a consequence. All this FOMO, >> all these things, they don't matter to you at all, that the choice has been made. >> Yes, yes, that's true. That's true. Regarding doing what you like, not liking, there are two, you know, like, two sides. The first say, like, everything is bullshit, you need to, like, do what brings money, if it's hard, like, you know, overcome yourself >> by force, >> yes. Yes. Just as dry as possible, specifically money, others >> don't care what it's hard, I don't like it, it doesn't resonate with my soul, I'll go and do it. And the second say the opposite. It seems to me the truth is somewhere in the middle. I just, in short, what I see is that a lot of people, especially again related to artificial intelligence, try to find a business model first and, in short, their focus is on money. That is, where is the money, where is some secret business model. And you have tons of dropshipping on the internet, do this, do that. Here is the best model, here is the best model, here is the best number of you, a huge amount of information, and your focus is on money. And based on what I've seen, based on what has always worked for you personally, is that if you focus on money, you get less money. If you focus on the product initially, so to speak, you get more money. This sounds paradoxical, but it's from experience. You need money, they are there, you understand, these are the keys, I realized this a long time ago too, people don't, that is, having $100,000 >> a person will be driven crazy >> and I remember Arut told me a cool thing: "A million dollars is such a stress that you will lose it." He, you know, you sit and look at the golden, like, castle and think, it will burn down, it gives you stress. And, uh, I don't like extremes. And in this particular case, I will choose the following strategy. There is a pragmatic approach. After all, we need money, resources, and so on. And you can treat them normally, for example, conditionally, I have this opportunity, and it's a sin not to take advantage of it. >> Opportunity is always there. And people who can seize opportunities in the moment, for example, like seeing some trend, going, even if they don't quite like it, because this thing, I've heard so much from partners, I have a whole conflict, I don't like this, I want to be creative, like I want to paint a picture, so that people see it, so that I lead like a muse, with my eyes closed, damn, guys, this is one in a million, it's a very difficult state. It's a state where, yes, it's important, it's selling yourself. And there is a pragmatic approach. And the truth is somewhere in the middle, where you know how to consciously, conditionally, here I, uh, take this, because it's lying there, if I don't take it, someone else will. And this is still my foundation. We talked about capital, that it should be, you should also think about the world of matter to accumulate, these are the rules of the game. Either you don't play by these rules, or you leave. Like recently, I don't know, a meme, it's SEO Coin Coin Telegraph, I think. Yes, did you see it? No, I Yes, I think, either from Coin Telegraph or some coin, well, in short, a famous publication, bro, in the rock, Buddhism at all. So it's clear, because these are his practices, so to speak, there are people who go to this extreme very strongly, >> And there is another thing, when you like it. In my understanding, what do you really like? Where do you feel energy, where you don't have to force yourself to do something. And in most cases, we force ourselves to do something, sometimes with discipline. But there is something that you can do for a long time, losing track of time, getting involved. And if you have this, >> and you don't think about money, there's a chance that you will achieve something very special, very tasty, interesting to people with an author's approach. >> Or maybe it won't work out, maybe it won't work out, >> yes. And I, you know, how I understood this? I play basketball, they already know me in crypto circles for basketball. I fell in love with this game, so if I had the opportunity, of course, it's a utopia to play all day, live on my villa, well, in short, to play basketball, go to NBA matches, I would live this. Or I even thought, damn, maybe I should find a way to the NBA not as a player, but as a >> doer, >> content creator, something like that. I have these thoughts, imagine, I like it so much, I understand it so well, I just absorb it without limitation. But after a while, I notice that what I liked before, it fades. Somewhere, what gives you things remains, you leave me with, like, damn, all this gives me fitness, body, game. And it means that what I liked 2 years ago very much, I like less now. This is a property of a person, >> yes, facts. >> And to look for this always, what will blow my mind right now. >> No, you don't need to look for it, it comes on its own, I think, you know. >> Well, or when it comes, you still feel it, you described it well yourself, when it's difficult for you, you don't force yourself, it's hard to tear yourself away, you forget to eat. That's what you, >> yes? And let's explain it like this, like, this feeling, like, he found it, it drives him, that people without energy, they don't want to do what they do, they force themselves, and so on. They are already fundamentally losing, if they have exclusives, resources, and so on, which are also limited. Well, let's say you have energy, try to find a pragmatic benefit in it. If this synergy exists and you can do it often, not to approach, >> yes, Yes. Well, you know, many people are in this state at first. You know, this state, you don't force yourself, you're in a flow, but as soon as the state disappears, that's it, you need to push yourself. You need to, basically, yes, you need to push yourself and do what you won't like for some time, because you won't always have 100% motivation to get up, you know, and do it with pleasure, you know, it doesn't happen like that. >> Printers, marathon runners, these are different people. Yes, I realized this a long time ago. I say, I've been through this path, like it, don't like it, I'm looking for the perfect topic. You know, like, I remember going to a training, I also went to interesting trainings at one time. And one person was speaking there, we still joke with my partner. He stood up to the microphone, >> and he says, the trainer asks him: "What do you want? Really, why did you come here?" And he says: "I want to find a solid topic and get on track." >> Uh-huh. >> Yes. And people are always looking for this money button, a quick way, a loophole, the easiest thing. >> But I believe that, you know, it's like, business, something you like. It's all such a complex human chemistry, a combination, infinity, in general, it's like a dance, a process. The process is always awesome, >> yes, >> and sometimes people give up on the process. I even remember myself, when I moved from Murmansk to St. Petersburg, from St. Petersburg, then we started crypto, I moved to Ufa, I didn't think about money at all. That is, yes, I needed it, well, I had like 50,000 rubles. I always somehow balanced them, lived somewhere, economized somewhere, was pragmatic somewhere. But I liked the process itself. Every time there was movement, I did something, yes, you could say, >> Leo, but this is all due to selfishness. >> You want to be significant, >> yes? >> Damn, well, we are people. >> Who doesn't want to be significant? >> We are people. We have these little things of our significance. Leader, not last, beloved. Everything is very complex, it can't be described so simply. >> Yes, yes, 100%. Regarding difficulty, or rather, about the easy way, I think everything is a marathon. That is, it's impossible to sprint something and get results. Well, maybe there are exceptions, but everything is a marathon, and even the factor of luck, there is luck in everything, but luck always meets your preparedness to grab that luck by the tail. That is, if you just sit on the couch and do nothing, opportunities will pass you by. Perhaps this is luck, you are just not ready to interact with it. >> I write about rational luck. Someone told me a phrase once, I don't remember who said it, someone said it, or I read it somewhere. There's such a thing in the States, Fortune 500. >> Yes. Why is it called Fortune? It's a list of the richest people in the States. Why isn't it called deers or, well, businessmen? It's called Fortune because Fortune is, yes, let's translate it literally, it's not capital, it's not resources. Damn, help me now. Fortune is, damn, I'll even translate it now. You'll understand how much the game is neuro-linguistics, in short, >> state. >> Uh-huh. >> Your state, like, yes. State, yes. That's why there's Fortune, Fortuna, >> because 50% is success, 50% is your actions, discipline, and so on. How you are drawn to it, >> yes, 100%. >> There's another phrase, you also watched it recently, I won't say the authors, because they might be agents, I don't know, but the phrase is cool. To, you know, like, you need to be in the right time and in the right place. >> Uh-huh. >> And there's an extension. And it struck me so much, in the right place, at the right time, and prepared, >> yes? >> Boom. And you will have all this, all this is about life. And here, this preparation of yours is a kind of compound interest that you have accumulated before, brought into

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It's some kind of story, and you, in the moment of negotiations, for some resource allocation, for an opportunity, you are ready for them. And then this fortune comes, it will throw things at you, conditionally pour for you. >> But there are no "money buttons." >> Especially now, there is a low barrier to entry for some things, there is easy access to capital, there is not good profitability. in some ways, easier things, for example, to do shoe shining, conditionally speaking, yes, or, >> well, there, with something modern, needed. To build a content factory, let's say, for example, go to entrepreneurs, negotiations, a good team, sales, everyone needs this, yes, everyone wants to be popular, everyone doesn't know, well, this is also difficult, this is, you know, not an easy story. >> Well, that there is more profitability and a probability that you will, as it were, build a house from earned capital, and here no, it is, as it were, the expected value, yes. Yes, but no "money buttons." I encountered this in crypto. Crypto has very strongly deformed me. I understood how people behave, what behavioral economics is, that they always want to be told what to do. And this is about us internally. And there are even very cool people. You most likely have me in different spheres, we go to doctors. How do I go to a doctor? I will find the best specialist, who will be recommended by acquaintances. Tell me, doctor, what's wrong with me? Although I can go and figure it out, tests, photos, neural networks, and so on, but I want, doctor, what should I do? >> Yes, no, that's true. But with medicine, it happens that you go to several doctors, and they all give you different diagnoses. This happened to me, I went, I had cluster headaches, and only on the fourth try did they give me the correct diagnosis. And, in short, and they were all seemingly normal clinics, you know, not some free or cheap, low-quality ones, so you still want a solution, like, help me solve the problem. But in finance, it's not like that. That is, in finance, there is no one who will tell you, like, no, actually, there are those who will tell you specifics. It's just that all specifics are subjective depending on the person. If our body, from a medical point of view, is more or less the same. You have different elements, but globally your body is more or less similar, right? But in finance, a person's psychological profile affects everything. Absolutely everything. That is, you have a set of rules that you can apply to one person and apply to another. And they will work for one and not for the other, because the person will not follow these rules. Somewhere they will break them, somewhere they will do something else, well, in short, they will make a mistake, even though the rules are the same. And the assets can be the same. >> About trading, like the story that, like, either Gerchik told me once, he said that it's a brilliant description of why it's impossible to teach. A person can become a trader, it's impossible to teach, because there is a rule not to cross on a red light. Uh-huh. >> But on December 31st at 12:00, it's the transition to the New Year. >> Yes. >> When there are no cars, what will you do? You will cross on a red light. >> Yes. >> The rule is broken, although it was stated. And this perfectly describes that theory, a person gains their own complex experience and so on. Let's wrap up. I think we'll make a separate block for this. >> Uh-huh. >> Now we'll talk a bit longer on this topic. Regarding recommendations. We have such a very liquid podcast, I would say, an interesting image. Someone it will resonate with, for someone it will grow. It turned out from the soul. Now, regarding films, books, materials, something in culture, something that can influence a person. I'll start. >> Let's. >> I have a picture here. It's not here for nothing. It's "Obsession." That's my top three films, it's confidently in the top three. >> And this is also a paradigm. There is a paradigm of hedonism, yes, where everything should be pleasure and enjoyment, and there is achievement. There are no correct ways. Well, something will be answered from above later about what was correct. And I doubt it, this film shows what it means to be obsessed, even perhaps unhealthily, in the eyes of the viewer, a subjective assessment of something. >> Extrapolate this to something else, to your business, to your actions. I often explain that I am very afraid of obsessed people, in a good way, in a healthy way, I am afraid of obsessed people who are obsessed with their goal, their mission. They have this crazy plan, and they know how to achieve it, and they are ready to go for years. Disciplined, yes? I might not reach it, you understand, life can unfold differently, but it's super energy. >> Uh-huh. >> So I recommend everyone watch this film before the age of 35. It's really >> And why after? >> Maybe thirty, my some. >> You think that after thirty, it's already like, done? >> No, no, no, these are my old programs. No, we've discussed up to 50. Go all out. Yes, the main ones were previously unicorn companies, unicorns are built after, when a person over 40 digests, >> yes? Well, Altman's company, by the way, is the first successful company, Open A. Before that, 11 failures, so everything he tried failed, except for Open Ai, and so from an investment perspective, he's a loser. >> Yes. And from a venture capital perspective, it was not worth investing in him when he was doing AI, well, Open AI companies. So this is also interesting statistics. >> Let's have something from you now. From films, damn, it doesn't matter, books, films, yes, music. >> It's all so subjective, actually. It's all subjective because >> you've already sold the premise of the release that we're giving to people now, right? So the film "The Last of Us," >> yes? M, damn, I'll think about it now. I'll think about what interesting thing I've read or watched recently. Well, I like this film too. It's cool. It's cool. 100% what you said resonates. Damn, it's so difficult for me, you know, with this, when you've been in media for a long time, you have a certain filter because you often encounter different people in comments, and you already have a filter for your own subjectivity. So you don't want to share it because you know that someone will misunderstand it, someone will say that it's just fluff and so on. Therefore, you need to learn to turn this off. >> I've removed this from myself. I'll say, I felt that I was speaking sincerely, truly. If someone doesn't like the dish I cooked, brother, you have the option not to eat it. Go to McDonald's, eat buns with emulsifiers. So, like, no one is forcing anyone here. Well, I've seen the other side, where people like Leo, damn, films, books. I recommend everyone watch "The Father." In short, I've read it many times and watched it from different perspectives over the past 10 years. For me, this is a film that, well, it's very special. It's such a drama about family, about two people with the same goals, different methods, a son, a father. A very cool thing. So I recommend it, I recommend people watch, read, for example, I recommend Pelevin, for example, "The Sacred Book of the Werewolf," by the way, what Ishka misses, >> yes, >> these are dramas, this is creative content, you know, authorial. For example, Pelevin's books, I don't know, literature like Castaneda can also hardly be replaced, >> yes? So, but you need to work with your emotional linguistic system. That is, you shouldn't remove it, love something, like something, experience good emotions from something. This is cool, >> yes. Damn, it's hard for me to name something from recommendations that could help someone. >> Because all books, you know, they were needed at a certain moment in time. So, like, when a book is no longer relevant now, and a film is not particularly relevant, then something new appears, and this becomes relevant for you, and you struggle with it. For example, for the last year or two, I've been dealing with myself, with some emotional aspects. I go to psychotherapy, I'm purely interested in exploring myself, because until about 26 years old, I was just, let's say, a robot that does something. There's a goal, you need to go there, we gather all possible resources and go there. And then I became interested, like, what do I actually, well, let's say, what do I have inside? So now I have a chapter in my life where I'm working on my inner world. Like a book, this area of study is a boundless thing, yes, it boosts you a lot when you start accepting yourself. And these topics with psychotherapy, yes, let's call it differently. I've been to various ones, there were specific requests, but what did I realize? There are people with whom you just communicate, you go and talk, like we are with you >> and how a person needs a person to discuss ideas, to bring something out, to look from a different angle, it's very cool. >> 100%. >> Yes. Then sometimes even some problems, I haven't sought help for problems for a long time, but conditionally, when they existed, I would come out and think, it doesn't even exist. >> Yes, yes, that's powerful. So now, books, damn, I can hardly recommend anything that would really resonate with someone. "The Psychology of Money." I can recommend a book. A good book for all such things. It's subjective too, but good from the perspective of a basic understanding of how money works and how to treat it. "Atlas Shrugged." This is also a classic. >> I watched it. No, I'm reading it, I've finished it, read it all. Cool, it's really going well. But then I thought, I understood the context of this girl. It's Ayn Rand, she came, she's from a socialist background, she's from the Bolsheviks. She's offended. Well, no, of course, you see that she's very offended. She came there. Capitalism, the state. Capitalism is the same monopoly. Your task is to aggregate all results, destroy competitors. Capitalism, the right to vote. A cleaner in the White House will never have the same vote on Iran as Trump, conditionally, or some others. This is impossible. This is an idea, it's an illusion. I understood it, but it's written coolly, >> yes? Interesting characters, situations, yes? So, those who haven't read it, they can touch upon it a bit. This literature, it captivates, literature captivates. Like ideas themselves, any idea is not bad, not good, the question is how you process it, what you take the best from, what's bad. >> Well, I often recommend books by Alexander Krovtsov. Again, we were talking about 20-30 years old. This is a person who, well, he is a mentor to people, major businessmen, young top managers. He writes about resources, power, power structures, aggregation, mentors, why they are needed. Cool. A great Russian guy writes in Russian. Understandable. >> Many people recommend very cool guys, yes, like, it's like a referral. I've read everything. He has a great book called "Russian Networking." How to >> so, several books, yes? >> Yes. He has "Russian Networking," "How to Reach the Next Level," "Personal Strategy." He has a new book now, "Mentor," they sent it for free for a post. The book is "How to Succeed." Who still doesn't understand? Well, like, what's the title? Red cover. You open it, and everything is written in a non-existent language, and at the end, if you didn't understand this book on how to achieve success, write to odigenno. But he's a cool guy, but his other books are really very good. I recommend them to everyone. They will definitely sober you up and give you a certain structure in your head about how things can be arranged, especially there. And know that there are different rules of the game, and this is still a kind of upside, and it's worth striving for. So, yes, in my understanding, one should strive for power. Power is something in the eyes, resources, power over resources, and so on. Well, and guys, the film "Obsession," I think it's the perfect film after our conversation. So be obsessed with your work, with what you do, with your goal, with your life, in a good way, healthy obsession. Most people walk around with their heads down, are boring, uninteresting, not ready to work. Well, I don't know how to say it. So, like, no matter what revolution happens, no matter what happens, I still know that there are people with burning eyes, with entrepreneurial abilities, on the move, who will in any case be among those, even if not 20%, but among those 10% of people with full tables set, and there will be just, it used to be 80-20, now it's 90-10. >> Yes, I also like the story about the state being primary, that your state is the primary story of everything. >> Everything, yes. >> Your state, everything comes from it. And then, I just forgot to add, why you came to films, the series from >> Apple, >> yes, >> "Dark Matter," a brilliant series. >> "Dark Matter" is where they enter these different dimensions >> your psycho-emotional state, your picture, not even a picture, but what's inside, it opens up your reality. Very cool. Well, I'm a paranoiac, >> No, I agree, it's hard to argue with that, so the state is primary. Therefore, for people whose state is, let's say, in a bad state, if I can put it that way, >> the state works, >> yes, the state works, then everything else will follow. So breaking through a bad state to force yourself is not a very good strategy. First, work on your state, then everything else will go easier. >> And jump faster if your task is to earn a living. Guys, there are a lot of methods, yes, yes, in the current inflationary, wildly inflationary economy in the world, how to get through this stage, you won't become fabulously rich and so on, but you can afford luxury attributes, like a ride in a Maybach taxi at least once a month, but you need to start from there, like, descend faster. >> Yes, I saw a guy on Telegram, oh, he just made thumbnails for me 2 years ago, he's 17 years old. So at 17, he has this obsession, you can see that he's really charged, and he was charged then, and he, so he developed this whole story strongly. So at 17, the guy was earning 250-300,000 rubles a month. >> Yes. So, like, a 17-year-old schoolboy, the guy hasn't even graduated from school yet. >> Nowhere to spend it, >> yes? Nowhere to spend it. He, like, in short, he, I later moved quickly from his city, from some small town. And so he talks about it on Telegram too. So, there is energy, there is a desire to do something, to move, then it will work out. And if there isn't, well, probably it won't work out anyway. Yes, thank you.