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He taught me everything from creation through revelation through the rapture and into the new heavens and the new earth. Man, he created man in his image. Now, I actually saw before the fall dinosaurs in the word. They weren't mean. I I watched Adam pet the nose of a dinosaur. Robert Marshall was dead for three days when he had an encounter with Christ in heaven and saw some details that are unlike almost anything you've ever heard before. This is one of the most fascinating NDE testimonies I have ever heard. Robert, thank you for joining the show.
>> My pleasure. My honor.
>> So, tell everyone how did you die?
>> Very quickly. Uh well, on May 19th um uh 2024, I was in the hospital. Had been admitted on the 17th um because of a very large mass on my neck that uh they determined they diagnosed as an extreme extremely aggressive uh form of cancer. And I was having trouble breathing. I couldn't literally couldn't swallow. So I went to the emergency room downtown uh Fort Worth. Um and they in the emergency room like my oxygen level was like at 84 85 at that point. Uh I couldn't swallow water. I couldn't breathe. They took me into the back uh put me to sleep and put an oral intubation tube down my throat so that I could uh get oxygen. They admitted me to the ICU, the intensive care unit immediately. And uh of course I laid there until uh you know the 23rd of May with the tube in. I was breathing up. When you don't get oxygen, you get oxygen. You're you're pretty happy camper. And uh I was doing pretty well except for the big mass of cancer. And the doctor came in on the 20 or on the 19th of May with my wife and looked at all the the charts and the machines and everything that was going on and says, "He seems to be doing pretty good. He's breathing. He's got a lot of oxygen. There's no no nothing other than not being able to get oxygen because of the the mass on my neck. Uh but they had the tube down. I was getting pretty good oxygen and they decided that she she said let's see how he does without the intubation tube see if he can breathe on his own. And she asked my wife to leave the the room and they took the extabated the tube. Uh and then of course my wife came back in and uh I was in there. Doctor stayed in there for about oh 30 I think medical record say 30 35 minutes somewhere right in that vicinity and was watching and you know I was doing good breathing everything I was happy I was joking with my wife her and you know I'm going I'm going to get out of this room you've been in an ICU room you room you know all you hear beep beep beep you and everything all of them down the hall and uh I didn't like hospitals to start with uh but I was feeling really good because I was getting oxygen well uh my wife and the doctor went out to nurses station or out there outside the room down the hall a little bit and uh they left me in the room after about 35 to 40 minutes they ca they decided I'll be fine about 30 35 minutes and uh they went out there and they were talking and they were gone about 35 to 40 minutes is what the medical records say sometime in between that 35 to 40 minutes that mass rolled over my airway and I suffocated to flatline, zero oxygen, zero heartbeat. How long that was, they don't know exactly when that happened because nobody was in there with me. Wasn't on any machines at that point. So, they had no way of knowing. Uh I was I was they were concerned I was going to be able to get out of that room. And uh my wife came back in the room about 354 minutes later and she discovered me. Uh blue line, dead, not breathing, no signs of life whatsoever. She just panicked. She ran out and hollered out, "He's blue. He's blue. Come quick. come quick. And that doctor of course ran in, saw me, said, "Uh oh, something's wrong here." And she confirmed that, you know, I was dead. The nurse hit the code blue button. Everybody in the world came out. Uh there's probably 20, 25 people, and they were crawling underneath the table, on top of the table, on top of me. Uh they had a large male nurse that was doing uh compressions on me, trying to get my heart going. Uh and they were trying to get the intubation tube back down my throat so I could get oxygen. And at this point now, I've got zero oxygen for about no heartbeat, no oxygen, nothing. And they couldn't get the intubation tube back down because that mass was blocking it. And they kept nicking and nicking. And I ended up bleeding out in my lungs as well. But it was about 15 minutes before they even got my heart to get a beat. And then it was just for a matter of a moment. But when I I I was without oxygen for total about 90 hour and a half, 90 minutes with zero oxygen, no heartbeat, nothing. Uh except for in interim periods, they got my heart going for about 20 or 30 seconds and then flatlined again. Uh and then they got it going again uh for about 20 30 seconds. It flatlined again. But the first time that I died, I left my body. It was 15 minutes before they could even get that first beat of a heart going. Well, in the meantime, of course, my brain was being destroyed. Everything in my body was being destroyed because no oxygen. But when I died, I immediately I was hovering above the ICU room and I was looking down at everything and I'm like, "This isn't good." But you see yourself there and you're up here. You you know, you're trying to figure everything out at this point. You know, it's it's it's an experience. Yeah. It's It was It was quite a thing. I'm looking down. I'm going, "Wow." And I'm watching the guy doing the CPR breaking my ribs. And
>> was your body was your body rigid?
>> Well, I was I was as blue as probably the suit is.
>> Wow.
>> I mean, it was that because I mean, I had zero oxygen.
>> Yeah.
>> And of course, there was no movement on my part except for where he he kept doing the compressions. So, I'm bouncing up and down and they're they're trying to move stuff around. I mean,
>> so what did you see? So you were you were outside your body and you said to yourself, "Wow, that was me." And then what happened after that?
>> Well, I was hovering and I'm looking down in here and I'm going like, "Okay, this is not." And then I kind of hovered out to the hallway through a wall. You don't you don't you're not bound by anything at that point. And I looked down and I I was I looked at my wife and my wife was out in outside the room just doubled over just crying. I mean, literally the floor in front of her, I'd never seen her cry like that. It was like a puddle of a a puddle of tears. Literally the floor was what if you took a glass of water and poured it. That's about what it looked like from the tears going through.
>> Wow.
>> And it it was breaking my heart. I kind of hovered. I I remember telling her I saying, "It's going to be okay. It's going to be okay, sweetie." Of course, she couldn't hear me. I wasn't saying anything. She didn't know I was there. All she knew was her husband was in there. They were beating on throwing everything they could to try and bring him back alive. She just knew her husband was in there dead. That's all she knew. And she was just dealing with a lot. I you know I she went through a lot more than I did. I I mean she really did.
>> Same that was that was the same for all my family and friends. They have all these experiences and I was I was outside of it the entire time.
>> I tell her I'm del around heaven. You're down here feeling bad, you know. But I uh I floated back in the in the ICU. And of course this is all just a matter of you know 30 40 50 seconds maybe a minute. You know, I mean, it's not like I was lingering. And I saw them and then that fast, I was standing in heaven. I didn't go through lights. I didn't get meet I wasn't met by a band of angels or anything else. I was just immediately there standing there. And I'm standing there looking. And I I was outside what I call the inner courtyard. And it was unbelievable. And I remember the feeling I had of just absolute total peace, total love. It was like I never ever ever had that feeling ever in my life. It was just amazing. And I'm looking around and I'm looking at the trees and flowers and the inner courtyard and I looked over there. I called it the inner courtyard. And there was there was a man over there I recognized and it looked like my dad, but
>> it didn't look like my dad when he died. See, my my dad died when he was 92 and he he died of throat cancer. Ironic, right? I didn't die of throat cancer. I suffocated to death. But he did die from the cancer and it ate him up. Cancer is a cruel cruel disease. And u he just shriveled away to nothing. I remember that. And yet when I'm looking at him, he looked to be about 35, 38 years old as prime health. Like I remembered him from my youth. I'm going, "Wow, I know that's my dad." Then I'm looking over here at the I'm trying to take everything in them. I looked at the the trees and I kept looking and looking and looking and looking and looking up at the trees and I'm going like they were just magnificent towering. Now we have I tell people we have 43 oak trees in our backyard and we do and they're pretty good size. I mean they're towering but compared to the trees in heaven it was like that's my in heaven I'm looking up at them and the trees in our backyard compared to heaven are like little tiny dying twigs. The trees in heaven are just so towering and the leaves are so green and they're different greens so bright. It's like they just pop and greens that you don't even have here. Colors we don't even have here. And it just it's just unbelievable. And I'm looking at the flowers over here and I'm like, "Wow." I saw flowers that I I had never seen before, but there's a lot of flowers on earth I've not seen as well. But these I've never seen anything like them. And the feeling of of love and peace, it was like a huge hit you.
>> Yeah.
>> It it permeates you. And I figured I found out later why why that is too. Um, you know, let me get the flowers here real quick. The flowers like you were talking about. You've never seen anything like it. The colors, we don't even have these colors here. And it it's like not three-dimensional, not cinemascope. It's like quadroikascope. I mean I mean it's just it's it's like a just to surround you is just like you don't know where to look. It's just unbelievable and they're just alive and you're connected to them and the peace and the love that I felt. I noticed that there's no sun but it's light. Now in heaven there's no day, no night and there's also no sun up in the sky. And I learned that the light we always say that Jesus is the light but that's literal. He lights all of heaven. All of it with his light. And in his light carries his love and his peace. He is love. And what I also learned, including from creation, he didn't create the earth just because he didn't need us. He didn't need anything.
>> He wanted us.
>> It even it wasn't that. It was he was perfect harmony with the father, son, and holy spirit. They were love. But love grows. Love has to give. And as he explained to me at creation, he says, I created thing. Everything came out of love. My love just overflowed. Yes. And it gave and that's where everything came from. Every all creation is love and his love is so strong and it permeates your body. This light contains the love. It contains the peace and it just permeates you. everything in you and everything and everybody with it. And that was the most incredible. I still it's like a hug. You just you don't you don't worry about or stress about anything. It's just the most incredible feeling. I got the in heaven. You you get to feel him. You don't get to hear about it. You don't get to just see or or wonder, but you actually live in his love. as when he abides in us and we abide in him, if we fully embrace him and allow him to just truly live his life through as we should, you will feel that peace and that love because this love is so strong. But I'm looking at the flowers and the trees. I'm looking over at my dad and there's no sun in the sky. I'm going wow. I mean, I didn't know what to go wow at first and then I heard this music in the background. Now, it's like white noise. It's not loud like we're talking here. It would doesn't interfere with your talking. It's it's not even like white noise. It's just like it's there. And it's just the most incredible music and choir I've ever heard in my life. And I'm going, where is that coming from? And it's just like everywhere. Well, every tree, every plant, every rock, everything gives off what I call a little melodic tone or hum. And when they combine together, it's the music singing and praising Jesus continuously non-stop. It's the mo I do music that Jesus has given me, but there is nothing if I could put what I that music in heaven is here. They got instruments and and notes and tones we don't even have. It's so far beyond what people can comprehend because you try to comprehend it with our senses. What we have here is just it's just the most beautiful thing. And it's continuously and it's every rock, every tree. It's like the Bible said continuously praising him all day. Well, not day, continuously because there's no day and night, but it's continuously,
>> man. Then I'm sitting I'm going like, "Wow." And and Robert, as you as you continue sharing these things, I just really want people to understand. We we just met real recently, just a couple weeks ago. But, you know, you hadn't even had known like in in in my testimony, my experience. I wrote the same exact things in my book 18 days in heaven. I wrote down the same exact I had an entire chapter where I wrote what you just said
>> about
>> I I testified how the mountains would sing to to the rivers and the oceans and the waters and the waters the water would sing back to the beach and the waves as they went back and forth they would crash on the sand and there would be a a a hymn that said worthy is the lamb. Worthy is the lamb. Worthy is the lamb. But it was unlike anything I've ever heard before. But it was all continuous and I wrote that same exact thing. So I just want people to really understand like like me and you had such a similar experience yet we've never talked about it before we shared it. It's just so fascinating. So keep going. Keep going.
>> Well, and what you're saying there is well Jesus explained to me with as well I spent three days with him there. So everything I'm saying is not just a glimpse. It was he taught me everything from creation through revelation through the rapture and into the new heavens and the new earth. And he did it by taking me outside of time and space. And he walked me through back to the very beginning when creation was going to do. That's why he explained to me how it happened. And he said, "Robert, do you see that dark?" I said, "That black." I said, "Yes." He says, "That's that's not absent light. That's not absent anything. That's nothing. There's nothingness. I created everything from nothing by my love overflowing. And he said, I did it when I spoke a word. And the word is Christ and Christ is love. That's what it came from. The word is love. And when he spoke it, watch creation. Jesus told me what was happening, what was taking place, and explained it all to me. And he did that for everything from creation all the way through the new heavens and the earth and everything in between. And of course there's no time in heaven. And he could give you a billion years and two minutes passed down here. You know I mean it's you can't relate the two. You can't it's hard to comprehend. But he literally showed me empathy. Now the trees that you were talking about and the rivers and mountains seeing each other. He also Jesus taught me that music and song is the purest form of worship and prayer that there is. And that's what the mountains and the trees and and the oceans and the rivers that you were talking about, they're singing that praise, praying to Jesus in a purest form. And that's what we need to understand. He said music touch your heart. Entertainment songs will touch your ears. It's just it's hard to comprehend. But you're right, the music is just unbelievable. And then I'm smelling the air. Now I'm really noticing this because I was just I wasn't breathing it down there and I'm going like it's the most beautiful fragrant ever ever smelled. Now it's not perfumey. It's not sweet. It's just most you can't even describe it. Just like you can't describe the feeling of love. The air was love only you're smelling the air. You're tasting the air. You're tasting. You're feeling the love. His love is everywhere. Now, the air in heaven, just like trees and flowers and rock all gave off their own little melodic tone and they combined to make that music. Well, likewise, every every plant, every rock, every tree, everything gives off their own little individual scent. And when combined, that is what makes up the air, the fragrance. If you could put that in a bottle just to smell it when it's just like when you're you're the light is the love is just going straight through you in a piece and as you breathe in that love that fragrance is also filled with his love. It just gets inside of you and you can't help it. I understand when he said his love was so so strong that it just love gives and it was his love overflowing that created everything. The word and that's the best way to describe it because when you you breathe in the heavenly air and you feel the heavenly light penetrating your body and it fills you with that love and peace, it just flows outward. Can't here we might sweat there. It just permeates love and just connects you to everything and everybody. I could talk about heaven for the next three hours and I won't, but you just you just can't describe it. You It's like the most incredible feeling. You just when you get there, you'll know. Well, you But when they get there, they'll know exactly what I'm I got to spend a little bit more time than you, though. But
>> yeah, it go Dave. Wait till you get the I mean you were there for a period of time but wait until you get there and you can go and he he gets to show everything to me.
>> Yeah.
>> Unbelievable.
>> It's it really is interesting cuz you know I I I was there for 18 days on the earth but for me the time that I was with him was only a couple minutes just in my experience but you know but you know for 18 days I was gone but for him it felt like a couple minutes. It was so like I experienced how time just I wasn't limited by the earth's clock any longer. And so describe now before we keep going with what Jesus showed you. Tell everyone what he looked like.
>> Physical attributes. Everybody asks that same question, but I got to explain it with I got to preface it with this. Do you know what color blindness is? It's like if if I look at you look at my suit, alright, or my coat. If a person is color blind, they'll look at it and they may learn it to be a a light a dark blue the same way that I do, but they actually see it. It may appear what would appear red to me because their colors aren't the same as mine. So, they see it a little differently. Keep that in mind. And then keep in mind this, we've all met people, men and women, probably have met people the same way. And you first meet them, you think, so beautiful. And then because we're doing it from a structurally physical side, superficial here and then as you get to know them, they suddenly aren't so beautiful. You're like, "Wow." And just the opposite, too, because you see somebody and maybe they're not as attractive as you might think they are, but you get to know them and go, "What? When did you get so beautiful?" They just kind of That's because you're learning to look at the inner person itself, not just the physical outward. Now, we all have preconceived ideas of what Jesus is going to look like, and those are going to affect exactly how he appears to you because he's going to appear to you as the perfect Jesus eyes. If we were all colorblind, only our individual senses will see it. Now, there are certain physical attributes that are the same. He's about 59, I would say, 5'8, 5'8, 5'9, 510, somewhere right in there. It's it's it's hard to comprehend because I was in so much looking around everything else
>> feel about eye to eye with you like he was he was right eye to eye like like face on straight on with you.
>> Yes. But then that's that's also part of what it does because when Jesus talks to you when he looks at you we have tendency to glance left or right when we're talking here. He looks at you. He looks straight at you. Now he's not trying to stare you down. His eyes and that's I'm going to start with those are the most you can't describe them because it's pure love that comes out.
>> Yeah. Pure love and comfort and compassion. And when he looks at you, he doesn't look left. He doesn't look right. He looks straight at you as if you're the only person in the entire universe. You are the most important person. And his total undivided attention is directly at you. And it's pure love. He's going to make sure that you know that he's listening to everything that you're saying and likewise that he will direct everything to you. Now, he can do that to a million people at the same time because he's omniresent. We don't have that ability, but that's what it is when you talk to him. It's like he's not going to look at anything else. He's talking to you and you just feel so loved and so important because we are to him. He loves us that much. But he's God. He can do that. But the love you feel, his eyes just sparkle now. He laughs. He He smiles. He's got the cutest giggle you'll ever hear. People think he's this mean guy up here, and it's not. He's just got the giggle that And he's got a sense of humor. He'll get you. He got me a couple of times. But when he does when he does it in such a way, it's almost like a dry sense of humor. It takes me go, "Okay." Because he's going to do that. So you remember a very important that he's doing and you don't forget it. But he is just a delight just to be in front of and looking at now 5'8 beautiful eyes that can only be described as pure love.
>> Wow.
>> He's I wouldn't say stealth. I don't know. I don't know the right word. He's he's not bulky. He's not muscular. He's not slopp. He's just perfect for his physique. His skin is kind of an olive color, an olive bronze, kind of like a Middle Eastern type. His nose is uh it's not it's not little tiny pointed. It's it's like perfect. It's just like a little slope and it's there. His smile just melts you. It just absolut. But when he's talking to you, if he's when he was teaching, he go from laughing to no, I want you to pay attention. And he'll get that look. Not stern, not uh criticizing, but you know that he wants you to to this is important, something's important. And he does it all with his facial features.
>> Hair is dark, maybe a little lighter. It's yours is more straight and combed back. I guess you might have conditioner gel or something, but his is is dark. He wears it. Um, it's not long long. It's kind of like a not a
>> shy short on the side, goes back down. Has full beard, but it's very trimmed. Must have. He just It's immaculate. Like he just got a haircut. I mean, on the
>> You saw it. You saw the beard, too. Thank you. Because I tell people about his beard. I tell people I say his his facial structure was it had the it carried the depths of eternity. Like it was perfect. Like it was like he was both 33 yet per yet yet uh eternal at the same time.
>> Yeah, He he looked to be about 33 to 35 maybe 36 but he didn't look young and he didn't look old. He just looked
>> perfect because everything is there because he literally is uh is just I'm a man. He he was absolutely beautiful.
>> Wow. So would he take you so so I'm sure he took you to many not just locations but he took you to to experiences he took you to encount like times almost how do you describe what he was taking you to
>> he literally walked me we well first of all God is outside space and time he created space and time
>> right
>> all right he created everything now being outside of space time he actually took me like through time to the very beginning as I explained and showed me I mean I watched creation it was the most incredible fireworks display you'll ever see. Got to watch the stars and everything go into the sky as he explained it. And then from that moment, he walked me through literally every moment from existence all the way through to the new heavens and the new earth. I saw he made me look in Satan's eyes and explain to me. He opened up Satan's eyes and says, "Do you see the pride? Do do you see the anger, the self- serving and he's as only he could do, he allowed me to see that through his eyes through Satan. And he said, "That's why he was cast out." And then he explained why he was cast out of heaven. I got to watch the fall. I got to see everything. I got to watch him uh with the Garden of Eden. I I saw dinosaurs, Neanderthalss, cavemen, everything. I watched him create Adam out of dust. That's not just a story. He literally did that. I
>> So was this So this timeline, would you would you say that it was a timeline like that was right there in heaven or was it like the timeline that he took you to?
>> He took me outside.
>> Outside. Yeah.
>> So I could look down at everything. He literally showed me everything along way. Like I would see what was happen and he would explain. I saw
>> as he he created Adam.
>> Wow.
>> and he would explain it to me. I wasn't in there with him intermingling, but he was showing me from that showing from Yeah.
>> And then we all walked through he
>> So you Wow. So, all right. Well, I guess let's go through that timeline first and then we'll get to walking through heaven. So, when he showed you the like the the very beginning, what was the very beginning and and what did you see?
>> It was nothing.
>> Nothing.
>> There was nothing. I was with him outside the time and space as if God were in the beginning. He was just himself. He was always was except now I'm with him. There's nothing there. And he told me, you see the dark, the black, that's not absent anything. It's not a light turnout. It's not absent light. It's not absent anything. There's nothing there. It was just an absolute total except for he and I. And he said, "That's what I created everything out of." And then he spoke the word and I watched everything pop in including the earth, the heavens, the earth, everything. And then he explained also between verse one and verse two. Now there you got to understand time
>> there was a there was a fall, wasn't there? There was a gap, wasn't there?
>> There absolutely was.
>> Yes. Yes. I knew it.
>> All right. So here's
>> I've always known that.
>> here's what happened. First of all, it's hard to explain because time did not enter until about 6,000 roughly 6,000 years ago when sin entered the world. Right? Because before sin, we we were not limited by the time. We were not limited by the clock and there there was the great fall of the entire universe in between verses 1 and two because that wasn't how he originally created things.
>> No, no. You see, and that's that's a very important part because in Genesis 1, as he explained to me, he created everything and I watched it. He says, "Now you have to understand that everything has a cause and effect." When he created it, everything at this point has a cause and effect. So what was the cause that sent the world into chaos? Now in verse two, it says the world, I believe the Bible says that the world was formless and void. But as he explained, if you really look at back the original words, it should read it became formless and void. And the void is not the word either. Void actually means a Oh, sorry.
>> No, I I could turn it off. I turned everything
>> to the Hebrew is to to vahu va bohu. It was it was void and dark within. It was chaos.
>> Yeah, total chaos. Now, he makes everything with a purpose and perfect.
>> So, that should tell you right there there something had to be something happened because
>> yes, even throughout Genesis, every time he did something in a recreation, I'm going to call it that. It was and it was good and it was good. You see, he doesn't create things that are bad. He's perfect.
>> He creates it with purpose and meaning and good. So when he created it, everything was perfect. The heavens, the cosmos, everything. There were no planets out of order. Things were not hitting and exploding into each other. The cause between verse one and two. Now this is where it's hard to understand. There is no time. Now, so when I use a time, I have to point out that it's so that we could comprehend. It's just like in Genesis and it says there was day morning and it was night is day one. Those are not literal 24-hour a day. That's a stamp of this happened and then this happened and stuff in between happened. But it wasn't to show a time period. It's just a sequence of events. So this happened, then this happened, then this happened, then this happened. And and it's broken down on days as a point because even then there was no time. You see, he created Adam and Eve, but there still wasn't time. Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden in perfect harmony, and perfect relationship, walking with God, without sin, and there was no time. And then, of course, sin entered and then became time. But let's go back to verses 1 and two. We know he created everything out of love and it was perfect. Everything was running around great. Satan, as he explained to me, was cast out because every created being including angels have what's called free will and free choice. We all know we have free will. But what happens is is that is supposed to be governed. 1 Corinthians chapter 13 4-7 tells you exactly what that love is. It also tells you what love is not. Now those are not just words. Those are Jesus's attributes, his values. It is an exact picture of what and who he is. He is love. We got to quit just looking at those as words. So, we to govern everything and that includes the angels and us. Every created being has free will and free choice. Well, Satan was starting to make his choices and governing his choices and free will and his choices outside of love. As he Jesus pointed out to me, he see he governs it with pride. self-s serving anger, those are not of love. Anything outside of love becomes sin. And Satan was starting to corrupt and get some of the angels to do that as well. And as a result, he said, "I had to cast him out along with about a third of the angels to keep heaven pure. No sin can be in heaven. No temptation." That's why at the end he's going to burn all this earth and the heavens and the cosmos all up with fire and create a new heavens and a new earth because no sin will have ever entered nor will it enter. So when he cast him out it was so devastating that it caused a ripple effect that rippled throughout the entire cosmos the universe and that's what set planets into disruptive states in balance. They started going around colliding, causing black holes, explosions, and everything else, asteroids, everything. All the chaos that's out in space is a further penetration of the chaos that Satan caused here when he was cast out. And that's what happened between verse one and verse two. Now, you can't measure how long that was. And that's one other thing he explained to me. He says the scientists do try to measure that. Everybody wants to measure how old the earth is, but they can't because you cannot measure something that did not exist. He said they can guess at best based on some fossil remain and some things that they try to do carbon dating methods, but even the carbon dating methods are not accurate because the further you go on it, the more inaccurate it becomes. But you can't measure something that didn't exist.
>> Well, and you can't measure something that was outside of the current status. You can't assume that carbon always functioned the way it has and that it has always been in the same environment and that this entire universe has always been the way this universe is. Assuming that is putting yourself on the wrong footing from the start.
>> Well, scientists what they do and all the cosmology people they they they're good. They can they can look at measure figure out what is there but they can't it has start someplace and they can't tell you what the created part of it is because then they have to accept that it was God and they don't want to do that
>> and even saying that something has a beginning is accepting that God exists but that's a whole another
>> and the be yeah oh yeah that's a whole other so anyway back
>> so what does he show you next what does he show you next after
>> we saw verse one and who that was a chaotic state. And of course, then he showed me the dinosaurs and the caveman, the the Neanderthalss, and he explained to me that we did not come from them. They would like to make you believe that, but that's not the case. He says, "I created them. I also said this that the only creation that was created in our image was man. No other was created in my image." And that's because we have a soul. We have the ability to love and that's the difference between us and others. The caveman, the Neanderthalss, yes, they have DNA that is some of our DNA is in there. Those are building blocks. I created I know what they do. But every tiny little change in the DNA structure is for a reason and that makes different things. You've never you've never seen a tree turn into a dog. You've never seen a horse turn into a bird. And you've never seen a caveman or Neanderthal turn into a man. They do have some similar DNAs. And he I did it a lot further than this because he actually explained the entire DNA. And I had the opportunity to explain it to a scientist up in California
>> and all he said was it makes sense now.
>> So, so Jesus showed you the the fall of Satan and then the chaos in the earth and then he showed you when he created humanity or take just take
>> show me the dinosaurs and the Neanderthalss. They were all there before me. But now man wasn't created. If you had to put times on billions of years because it wasn't wasn't time,
>> right?
>> When he showed me them and he explained to me that we didn't come from them. Our DNA is got some of our DNA there, but your DNA, some of it's going to be the same as a lion. Are you a lion? Did you come from a lion or a giraffe?
>> No. But there's little things that are different. And then when he created us, he created us in his image. These actions said our image because of the triune godhead, father, son, and the holy spirit in our image. We're the only one that he did that. And that separates us from that. He didn't have us come from somebody else. We were created from the dust. Watched him create Adam from the dust. And I watched him take a rib and create Eve. That's not a story. Those are facts. He showed me that. I watched you. you'll get to see. I'm sure he'll allow you to see that at some point in time. But people just have to realize Bible's not a story. That's a historical documents that showed us what and now he's revealing a lot about it that we haven't understood. But bang, creation, fall, chaotic earth, universe, everything going on, dinosaurs, all that created about 65 to 70 million years ago is one of those asteroids hit the earth. And when it did, it threw up such a dust cloud that it covered the entire earth and squashed out everything. You know, I'm sure you read it. It was in total darkness because no light could get through. nothing could breathe. Suffocated most almost every living thing. And it took the better part of that period until about 6,000 years ago, six or 7 thousand years ago. So we say maybe eight, give or take when we're talking these period of time. It took that long for that dust to settle down. And as it settled, he allowed that to become the the ground that will be good for growing crops and everything else. And that's where that's when he created the Garden of Eden. And then man created man in his image. Now I actually saw before the fall dinosaurs in the word. They weren't mean. I I watched Adam pet the nose of a dinosaur. The dinosaur leaned down nost. They were as a result of all that craziness too. When sin entered the world, time began. And it was a game changer. So Adam and Eve were in there before sin began. dinosaurs, cavemen, the anvil, all that's real and that's what man's trying to measure. And they'll even say as a scientist says, "Well, yeah, but some of this DNA matches up." Yeah, but it isn't 100% of it. And nowhere does it say God created them in his image.
>> Wow.
>> Creating us in his image isn't physical. It's your soul. It's your ability to love. To put all that together, your ability to choose him. We are different. We are truly his love. Which brings us to this. We are a miracle. Now, what is a miracle? We Some would say, Gabe, you're a miracle because you fell off your skateboard. Others would say, I'm a miracle because he resurrected me from the dead after 3 days. That's not the miracle. That's a Some would say love is the miracle, but it's not it either. You see, every miracle, there's no hierarchy. Some are more prevalent. But the entire creation from the beginning was from love overflowing. And a miracle as he explained to me is any manifestation or representation that flows out of love, his love that affects your life in a positive way. Those are all miracles. Your breathing, you're talking, your ability. Now we've are talking now you being able to function after cracking your head. My being able to function I was brained. My brain was destroyed. There is no way that they have ever repaired any brain or any any brain has ever repaired itself ever. Only a miracle. And that's just a different representation through a manifestation of his love. Those are what miracles are. Everything in your life, every function in your body, breathing, think, think about the the things going on in your brain right now that makes you enable, we're talking, we're looking at each other. At the same time, it's functioning to cause you to breathe, your heartbeat, your blood to pump. All those are all miracles which are manifestations of his love. Now, your recovery, my coming back, those are still manifestations of his love for his purpose to further his kingdom. And when we understand that, nobody has any hierarchy. There's no miracle that's greater than the other. Just like sin has no hierarchy. There's no greater sin. My sin's better than yours. My I got I'm the biggest sinner. No, it's not that way. A little white lie is the same to him as murder. A sin is a sin. It's a sin. If you violate one one letter of the law, you're what? Guilty of the entire law. Well, that's a fact. So, all sins equal. All miracles are equal. Some are, yes, more prevalent, and some he will use in a more public manner. That's we would say to further his kingdom. And that's what you and that's what I'm doing. But we're no different than any other miracle of every day. We're blessed because he's using us to do that. Share his word. Amen. I say the same thing to everyone I share my testimony to. I look them in their eyes and I say, "Your breath is just as miraculous as mine. You are here on this earth with just as much purpose as I am." And tell everyone, "Did you see the cross?"
>> I, as he walked me through time, I saw everything. He showed me the Red Seas, the Dead Sea Scrolls. I saw the Red Sea parts, Sodom and Gomorrah. I mean, literally anything and everything. And we did get to the cross, to the crucifixion. He had me watch it. And he explained it to me. And he explained to me that that was a demonstration of his love. He said, "Let me explain." He says, "I've explained to you what love is and you know that." 1 Corinthians 4 through 13:4-7. He says, as he walked me through the crucifixion, right? When Peter and he gave a demonstration of what his love actually is that we are to understand that that whole thing wasn't just about him dying on the cross and paying for our sins. It was more that was his love overflowing again for us. You see when the guards came to take you and he had demonstrated each each segment of it. The guards came to take Jesus. And Peter drew out a sword and cut off one of the guard's ears. Jesus didn't go, "Yeah, that's a good thing. Let's No, he didn't." He says, "No, Peter, we don't do that. Put your sword away." And then Jesus said, "I will go willingly." He reached out. He grabbed the guard's ear, put it back, and let the father heal. Put it back. And he says, "I will go willingly." And he went with them. And they do. You think he think that was self- serving? No. Was it anger? No. He showed us that you don't do anger. You don't take into account a wrong suffered there because they were taking him for no reason. So that's a a wrong suffering, but you still don't do it. He demonstrated that. And what does love say? Doesn't take into account a wrong suffering. Then he went with them willing and they beat him, they whipped him, they scourged him, they crucified him. It was horrible to watch. And through all that, he demonstrated his love. Do you think he went there because he wanted to? He went there out of obedience because it had to be done. Did he say, "Oh, I'm only going to do it a little bit." No. Fully embraced it. Fully embraced. They took him and they put him on the cross. He didn't need to go up there for us. He didn't need saving. He was sinless and blameless. We did. All of mankind
did. Yet, he paid for our sins with his life. See, he didn't go up there to save himself. It was totally Was it self- serving? Love is not self- serving. Did he demonstrate that there? Absolutely. Because he went for us. It's for others. His love outward. They put him on the cross. Now, after they beat him, they whipped him, they scourged him, they nailed him to a cross, did he get angry? How did he demonstrate it? "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do." He didn't take into account a wrong suffering at all. He wasn't self- serving. He did it for us. He loved others the way he was supposed to be. We are. And in the end, he was suffering. And he showed us that he was suffering. He was here as a God man. He had to suffer everything we did and yet be blameless and sinless. And what did he do? He prayed the way that we're supposed to do it. And that's what we need to remember. He asked, he says, "If you can take this cup from me, please do so. But nevertheless, let thy will be done." That's what we're supposed to do. We have a tendency to pray because it's benefiting us and we want it. I want patience and I want it now and I want it this way. So we tell God how we want it. We want it in our time. But it's supposed to be with your will because he knows the future. He knows all the little intricacies. And in so doing, he knows what's best for us. That's what we have to do. He demonstrated that. He demonstrated it all of it. And did he lie on the cross? No. You see, there was a thief on one side, a thief on the other side. And the one thief was just just straight up. He blew him off. The other thief looked at me and says, "I know. You know what I did was wrong. I deserve this. But you've done nothing. You are who you say you are. Just remember me when you come into your kingdom." He was demonstrating faith in God at that point. Just like in the Old Testament. And what did Jesus say to him? He said, "Verily, verily, I say to you, this day, you will be with me in paradise." Paradise. Exactly. He didn't say heaven. Why was that? There was a specific reason as he explained. He says first, he hadn't paid the price yet. He hadn't died. He hadn't risen from the grave for three days. The price wasn't done. It wasn't fulfilled yet. He says, "If I had told him he was going to go to heaven, I would have been alive and my sacrifice would not have been worth." He cannot get to heaven like that. Because he was showing faith in God. He couldn't accept him because there was nothing to accept at this point. You have to accept the payment. You have to believe in Jesus, but you still have to that belief has to be acceptance of that payment. Like it it says that you're saved by faith, not of your own. And then by grace, you are pulled into life everlasting with him. Grace and faith, both gifts, no work on your own. You did nothing, only what he allowed you to do.
Now he said there's only one way to the father to heaven and that's through the blood of Christ through Jesus. That's the only way. No other way. He's pretty I don't know what part of no other way people don't understand. There's only one way. Well, if that way is not available to you, ask the thief on the cross. How does he get to heaven? Same way you and I do. He's going to have to accept Jesus one day. So he sent him to paradise just like all of the Old Testament. Millions of people prior are in paradise because they had belief in the God. They couldn't accept Jesus. It all pointed to the cross. But they will have the opportunity which is a whole other lesson to accept him. When they went to paradise because of their belief in God, not in a golden idol, not in themselves, not in a giraffe or a tree or a flower or a voodoo thing. They believed in the God. and that credited them. For example, they gave blood sacrifices. The blood sacrifices weren't sufficient because as soon as they turned away and walked away, they think something is still a sin. They'd have been on there continuously. But they did that blood sacrifices to demonstrate their true belief in God. Yeah. In believing in God at that time, you have to realize this. It says, "In the beginning was the word and the word was with God. The word was God." Who's the word? Jesus. Jesus. Yeah. Jesus. Jesus is the word. See, he was there in the beginning. He always was there together with them. So when they were believing in God, showing faith in God, they were believing in Jesus. But they couldn't accept the payment because it hadn't done yet. Hadn't happened yet. But that was enough to credit them to get them into it's called shal or shaw, which is paradise and hell. We'll call it good place, bad place. Okay, paradise, bad place, hell, whatever, Hades, I don't care what you want to call. And if you believed in God, the true God, not the other phony one, you died, you go to paradise. You don't, you reject him, just like you're gone to hell and your fate is set.
Now, when he comes back, he said what? That the dead in Christ will rise. Who do you think the dead in Christ are? Those that are in paradise with him. When they rise, he comes back. He's bringing those that are with him in heaven, right? And what about those that are here on the earth that believe, true believers, they will meet him in the sky, right? Yeah. Okay. And then they will set down upon the earth and the dead in Christ will rise. There's going to be a Well, we're going to be his army, but it's not going to be with swords and guns and all that. It's a spiritual. We're going to be his army. When those dead in Christ rise, all those people that are in paradise, we will have the opportunity and blessing to represent Jesus and witness to each and every one of them what Jesus did. Explain it to them and they will then have that opportunity to accept his payment because that's the only way that they can go to heaven just like you. That's the only way.
Now he further demonstrated that is what's going to happen in Matthew. Uh Jesus, of course, Jesus was crucified. He died. He was in the grave three days and he rose. He rose from the dead. He conquered death. He conquered it. But shortly after the dead rose from the grave, the prophets of old. Remember that Matthew? Yeah. Moses, Abraham, David, all these people rose and they walked amongst them. And he did it for a real specific reason. Most people don't look at it and figured it out. But when I didn't either, but Jesus explained it to me. Okay? I don't want you to think I'm the smart guy figured it out. I had a really good tutor. When those prophets of old rose, they people, the Jewish people at the time, they knew who these people were. Some of them were people that they knew personally right there. They knew who they were, but they died. But now they rose from the grave. Well, Jesus ascended into heaven and they know, okay, he ascended into heaven and he conquered death, but what about us mirror people down here? Does it conquer our death, too? And he used that to show an example. Yes. And it's still only one way to get to heaven. It's through him because he is God. And he demonstrated he's not just a prophet. He's not just a good man. He was the Messiah. He is God. And when we see that, yes, he ascended to heaven, but he conquered death for all of us. When those dead grave rose and he walked amongst them, they knew who they were and they go, "Wow, he did it for he did conquer death." Yes, he showed them and they walked amongst them and then they died again and he went back into the grave. But he showed them that they did come. But as prophets or prophecy and everything else said and he said there's only one way and that's through him you have to accept him and they will have their opportunity but even they who are back in paradise now back in the grave I conquer death I showed you that they still will have to do it and that will happen when the dead in Christ will all rise and they will have the opportunity to accept the price that he paid and then they can go through heaven through that one narrow gate. There is no other way. Which part of no other way do we not understand? And I made it very simple. Man has complicated it. He says you don't got to you don't get pastors are going to hate me for this. You don't get to heaven by going to church every day. You don't get by having your family being good going to church every day. You don't get there by osmosis. There's only one way.
In John chapter 6 verse 28 and 29, he was pretty explicit. Verse 28, the disciples, they were asking Jesus, "What are the works of God that we must do?" In other words, what do we need to do? Do we need to heal the sick, perform miracles? What do we need to do? And Jesus in verse 29 said this, the work, not the works, the work of God is to believe in the one he sent. To believe Jesus, we have to believe in Jesus. Over in John 3:16, it says, "Believe. Believe." It didn't say anything else. In Romans, people have brought that forward and say you have to confess with your mouth. No, you don't. That's a public declaration. Just like water baptism is a public declaration in your faith. You're proud of it. Same thing in Romans. They were saying, "Man, we're proud to be a follower of Jesus." They were doing but man took it added to the words of the Bible said, "Let's add this to you have to do that." No. No. That's a public declaration. Doesn't have anything to do with salvation. Has to do with your peace and everything, your love, but not your destiny. Your destiny is determined by one thing and only one thing. And that believing and accepting that Jesus died as in John 3:16. He gave his only begotten son only one that whoever so believeth in him shall ever have everlasting life. Whoever so believes he says some people had confess with your mouth. Some people add baptism water. But let me ask you this. He says in the Bible I even said God shows no favoritism. And later it says favoritism is a sin. If I showed favoritism to anybody or anything that would be a sin and once again my sacrifice would have meant nothing. I have not the ability to. Now if when I said you have to believe in your heart and then I said and if I put in there confess with your mouth what happened to those that couldn't talk? Right? I'd have to show favoritism and I can't do that. So you see, he has reasons for everything in there and means everything he says.
So what does it tell the person watching this right now that wants to make the decision to believe on him or they're even wondering, "Do I believe in him?" What do you have to say to them? I would tell them this. Get religion out of it. Religion is man-made. There's no religion in heaven. Religion is as a result of man putting in their understanding of scriptures, adding to the Bible, and and teaching that over a period of years. in this. Jesus said, "Religion causes divisions. Division causes denominations. Denominations cause abominations and uh cults. Throw religion out of it. Do what Jesus said. Believe. All you have to do. He made it simple. And you can't do it on your own. So quit trying to do it on your own. There's not a magic prayer. There isn't none of that. You don't have to say anything with your mouth. You have to believe it in your heart." As he said, everybody has a heart. I created you in my image. Nobody, no other creation. I created you in my in our image, in God's image. And that gives you the ability to love and to choose and act out of love. And love is not self- serving. Love is accepting. Love is overflowing. So when you the moment of salvation is this, and it's now. We have what's called age of accountability. People use that term a lot. Well, kids that are three years old or five years or 12 until that you know age of accountability uh you know they they have grace there are things and in a in a way that does happen but it's not exactly because of age as Jesus explained to me he says it's not an age of accountability it's a moment of account and that can happen at 12 5 35 40 could happen at 60 it could happen at any point in your life and here's what that moment of accountability is it's when you have the intellectual ability ability to understand what is being presented to you and then you are exposed to what Jesus did and has explained to you that he died for all mankind including you mine everybody's sin no matter what the sin was all sin past present future everything he says now when he died and you paid that price you have to accept it your moment of accountability is when you have the intellectual ability to understand what somebody's telling you and Then through faith, not of your own, his faith that he gives you, you say, "Yes, I believe that you did die for me for my sins and you paid that price and I do want to accept that faith." And then in so doing, by grace, not of your own, he pulls you into life everlasting. Nothing that you did, nothing you can do except his payment. and say, you know, Lord, you've given me the ability to love because you created me in your image, and I do love you. You died for me. You You gave your very life for me so that I wouldn't have to. You paid the price of all my sins. The wages of sin are death, and death is separation from God. You paid that price so I don't have to be separated from you. I want you in my life. I want you to abide in me, and me abide in you. As you said, all you have to do is believe it and accept it and that's it. There's no magic thing that happens to you. You don't suddenly be a saint. He told me you're going to continue to mess up because it's a growing process. We're continually growing to become more conformed to his image till we get to heaven. Now, when you do that, Satan's going to say, "Nothing happened. See, nothing happened." No, that's Satan's lie. Because at that moment, the only thing he can do is steal your joy and your peace. He can't steal your salvation. Jesus said, "Your sins are as far from the east as from the west, never to be brought up again. He'll never throw in your face. Never." And when he said on the cross, "It is sufficient. It is complete. It is done." He meant that. He doesn't lie. Accept him. That's all you need to do. You don't have to jump down and go out and get baptized and go. you might probably want to because that's a public declaration because you're happy if you accept it and fully embrace the fact this man died for you. You know, we see things on TV. I just saw one on the news last night about a guy that couldn't swim. Baby stroller was on a pier and the wind came and pushed it into the water, blew it into the water with a eight-month old baby, freezing water. And this guy go whoa. And he jumped in trying to save the baby. And then he after he jumped in, he realized I can't even swim. and he's going to just try and get the baby out of there. They got the baby out. Save that baby's life and his own. But you see, that's the thing is you don't have to become a saint. You're not going to be a saint. You are a saved person. And when you accept him, accept that he accepts you as you are. He didn't say change first, clean up. No, he accept you as you are at that moment. And when he does that, he'll clean you up. He'll clean up.
How powerful. It's one decision. And I tell everyone, you have the free will to make one decision today that changes everything. Yes. And it changes your very core. Your heart is born again. Your identity is is is born again where you can be who he created you to be from the start though. Like yes, it's born again, but it's born again back to who he always thought of you. It's it's a beautiful mirror, isn't it? Yes. is is not just that is you're leaving right now before you accept his payment, you're dead. You're dead in your sins. You're separated from God. No matter how good you think you are, no matter how good you actually are here according to man's terms, you could be the greatest person ever. It's not enough. And he accept you as you are because all sin is the same. So you can be the greatest person, tell one little white lie, you're still guilty of the whole law. Wow. You are currently under the law. You're under the the ten commandments. You're under the Levitical laws. You're under the Mosaic laws. All those things. You're under the that law and you're separated from God because you cannot abide by. Those are a guidepost for you. But he said, "I paid that price. All I want you to do is let the love that I filled you with when I created you in our image to accept that through your faith that I'm going to give you acknowledgement and I'll do the rest." And he'll clean you up a little bit at a time. A lot of the time, it's in his time, not our time. And and when you do, know that nobody can snatch you from his hand. Nobody. No one, not even yourself can snatch you from my hands. And once again, what part of no one or nobody do we not understand? Wow. That's so powerful. You know, Robert, I'm gonna have to have you back on and I'd love to hear more about the perspective he shared with you about what's coming, about the end times, about the the later on the clock that you saw. Would you be willing to come back and and talk more? Absolutely. My whole life I tell people I died at 75. In May, I'll be 77 or two years old, whichever way. My wife says she's scared to death of the terrible twos, but I had a good life. 75 years. This is not my life. Wow. Listen is he gave me this and blessed me with being able to share what he taught me. When he sent me back, he gave me a new brain, new heart, new kidney. Everything is brand new. I have an MRI of my old brain, which was destroyed. An hour and a half with zero oxygen. Look it up. Look it up on the internet. What does an hour and a half of zero oxygen do to you? It destroys your muscles, hearts, everything. He gave me everything new physically. There's nothing wrong with it. My wife says, "You may be going through the terrible twos. I don't know. We're going to have to wait and see. But everything I do is just strictly to share what he taught me." He gave me new brain. When he sent me back, he said, "I'll give you a complete memory of everything you experienced, everything I taught you, and everything that I showed you. And you I will command you to share that with anybody anytime, where it lays that he puts in front of me. He puts you in front of me. I don't know how many people you got watching. Five, 10, 100. I don't care. He put you in front of me and my whole purpose is to share what he gave me to others. And I'll end on this note. He told me when he sent me back, he said, "Robert, I'm sending you back with a lot of information. Some of it people have not even had before." He said, "But you've got to understand, some people are going to reject it. Some people are not going to believe it. But I sent you back the miracle that nobody can deny. Not the doctors, not anybody, not the scientists. Nobody's ever got a new brain. You did. Nobody's ever gotten all that. He says, "And I sent you back for a reason, and that's to share that." He says, "But you have to remember this. You cannot convince anybody of anything. And you cannot change anybody. And you also cannot save anybody. Only I can. You have one thing to do, and that's to present my word, my truth, as I taught you, as I showed you without any deviation. Don't add your take on it. You tell them exactly what I taught you." And then my word you shared is a living word and my word can convince. My word can change and my word can save because my word is love. And that's where it all started. And that's where it's going to end in love with me for all eternity. You share it. You do your job. I'll do mine. Made it easier. I no longer stress. I don't I don't I don't have notes. I don't do anything. It's just he gives me exactly what needs to be said to whomever he put in front of me. And on that note, I'm probably the most blessed man. I know I'm the most blessed man I know because and that's not how it can be better than any just I'm just blessed. I get to share Jesus all day long. Come on. That's so beautiful. Wow. Wow. He told me such a similar thing. He said, "Gabriel, go back and tell them who I really am." Yes. Wow. That's so powerful. Well, Robert, you're gonna have to come back. So, you know, you you flatlined for like you said 45 minutes, but then they like kind of brought you back and forth, but then for 3 days you were they put you in the bag or three days just to start those three days. What they had done, I I actually flatlined three times. First time I flatlined and died. It took them 15 minutes of zero oxygen, zero heartbeat to get my heart beating again. The nurse ran out, talked to my wife and tell that they had got me and before she could even get it out to my wife out of the room and it's a matter of 20, 30 seconds, they said, "We're losing him. We're losing him. He's gone again. My wife, they said to my wife, "What do you want us to do?" Cuz they knew, the doctors knew at this point, it's been 15 minutes with zero oxygen. And now my heart stopped again. And my wife told them, "You do everything. I don't care. You do. We have a what's called a living will, a durable journey." And it says, "If they put me on any life support equipment whatsoever, they can't take me off for 14 days, no matter what." Oh, wow. So, you were you were pretty much on life support for three days, weren't you? Well, it wasn't not even They hadn't given me on life support yet. And so my heart stopped again. I died. I went back to heaven. We'll talk about that the next time. And I was gone that time. My took him another 20 minutes to get my heart going again. And it was only for like about 30 seconds. I in in that process, I bled out in my lungs. They had to drill a hole in my side, take out a liter bottle full of blood and fluids. They had to do a tracheotomy here, which cut my voice box and everything else. And I'm supposed to have a big hole here like this and going all that stuff. Well, that didn't happen either. So I died. You were miraculously healed from that, weren't you? The Lord just filled it right in. Yes. Died the second time. I was in heaven for 55 minutes before they got my heart going. And that was through finally going like that. And then they had me on the whole life support to keep it going. But I was already dead. But my wife wouldn't my wife would not allow them to take me off. So I just laid there dead. You know, basically I'm taking those face. They went to my wife every day trying to convince her to pull everything off and put somebody in there they could do some good with. She wouldn't have it until the 23rd of May. They just about had her convinced and Jesus sent me back. And boy, did we shake up some doctors. And you've you've since completely recovered. And you've lost a lot of weight, too. Right. I've lost about 85 pounds. Oh, when I first came out, I lost about 40 uh while I was in the hospital. Right. Right. When I came out, I put it back on about 287. Uh, now I'm down to about 202. Uh, wow. Because I ate everything in sight when I got out. I was hungry. But yes, this here I don't have a scar. I'm not supposed to talk. Yeah, because a tracheotomy takes out your voice, but your your voice was completely restored. Yeah, they they it was kind it's not a funny moment. They pulled it out. They told my wife, "Well, we're going to have to keep this clip cuz I had a hole big enough to put a golf ball in." And they were telling my wife that when we take this out, you're gonna have to make sure it's covered, wrapped, clean because anything that goes in that hole is going straight into his body and it's not going to be good. He said, she said, "It's going to take probably 10, 12 months for this thing to heal up to the point where they could sew something in there, the whole thing, you know, so I could talk and all that good stuff." Uh, but we want you to understand if you don't keep it clean and that gets infected around that, we won't be able to sew anything in. We won't do anything. It's just going to take time. I wouldn't be able to take showers or nothing because the water would go in there. So, they they took it out that night and showed her how to do it and put the patch on and clean it all up and they wrapped this big looked like a mummy, you know, around my neck. They had everything wrapped up. And the next morning, Sister's assistant came in and says, "Okay, we're going to take this out." And they called my wife, "Oh, she's there. Let me show you how we're going to take this out now and you'll see what we're talking about." Or it was already out. We're going to show you now to clean it up. and he took the thing off and pulled the tape off the next way. When you take the tape off, be careful that you don't tear that because that skin going to be real tender around. It's going to take a while. Pulled it off and he backed his chair up and he looks at me and he go when when did they take that out? And I looked at him and I said it's night about 8:30. He goes, "You're talking. Can't talk." Would you ask me a question? I answered you. What do you want me? That had totally overnight closed. Didn't leave a scar, nothing. Just the whole He just closed it up and obviously I can talk. Wow. And I don't have to go off the Yes. And just go one of many things that he did. But yes, he said, "I'll send you back with a miracle that nobody." Wow. Wow. Well, man, praise God. Well, everyone, I you know, Robert, I've h tagged your channel as a collaborator on this video. So everyone be sure to go subscribe to Robert and then also hold out hold out a couple of your books. You know I was I was telling everyone it's so fascinating. Yeah because this one here which is 44 hours in heaven. This is my very first one. Now this this book here it gives a perspective from what I went through from my perspective what I was seeing. talks about how I went to heaven, what happened to there. It also puts we put copies of the medical records in some of them in there so that they can I mean it's it's not something that happened at home. I recommend they get that to read first. This one is a second one. This is uh I had a court reporter with me in heaven who literally wrote down everything that Jesus said that I said as he taught me and showed and described what was going on and that court reporter came back and put it that's in that book. Yeah. It's 278 pages, no medical records, no pictures and it took me 11 hours from when he sat me down to write that type it to the printer. Wow. Wow. an exact transcript of what he said. The last one is this one and this is a walk beyond time. This is where I started to tell you exactly how everything take place from creation that he took me outside of time and space. Um they can get them all at 44 hours in heaven.org. Wow. That's exclusive too. So everyone go visit that website. And you know, Robert, I just think it's so amazing again because it's so funny. You know, we we had never really tal before we wrote both of our books. We had never talked. We we didn't know each other. That one I don't have that. And and and it's just crazy because someone could look probably at my book and say, "You know what? Uh Gabe probably like like Gabe or Robert could sue Gabe for copyright because they say the same things." But I respond and I'm like, "Listen, first of all, we we wrote our books before we knew each other, so you can't say that. But second of all, it's because we encountered the same Christ." Like I was reading chapters in mine and I was reading chapters in yours and I was saying to myself, "Oh my goodness."