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When do you think the general population will get such the wakeup call where they really see the end in sight that you're talking about, where the dystopia becomes real, where 10% of the people in the world lose their job for it never to come back, and they can see it's 20% next month? And by the way, do you think that's when we might actually get some type of a a change?
I I think I think reality will hit very hard in 2026.
That's next year.
Yeah. If not earlier.
That's fast.
Yeah. I mean, the problem, the problem is, it will be diluted, uh, in in misinformation.
Okay.
Or maybe in opinion.
Well, you said right now the intelligence workers are being replaced, but we're all being told they're being, uh, augmented with AI. And so,
yes. So, you have multiple stages. Thank you for bringing that back up. So, you have, uh, replacing human brains and replacing human muscles. Okay. Replacing human muscles with, uh, with, uh, with robotics, uh, is funny because, uh, you know, most people don't understand that the self-driving car is a robot. It's not a humanoid, but it is a robot. Okay. And and so the the u the the Elon Musk, you know, fancy flamboyant way of saying, we're going to make robots that are humanoid like, and all of the other humanoid makers. It's because they look amazing on video. Mhm. But but there are so many other robots that are being made that will completely not look like a robot, and and that's when you get 10 billion of them, right? And and of course, with economies of scale, uh, you know, and with most of the technology already available on your mobile phone, uh, the replacement of muscles is going to start to take place probably three to five years from now. Okay.
Okay.
The replacement of brains is going to work in two stages. Stage one is, uh, you know, if you take coding, for example, a job that requires intelligence. ChatGPT claims that they are better than most developers in the world, other than 175, they said. Okay. It doesn't matter. Say they are better than 90% of the world's coders. Uh, what that means is that very few developers will work with an AI. By the way, of course, Claude is the best at all of this, right? And and, uh, you know, and and Gemini 2.5 and as well. But coding is actually really in the other LLMs, uh, you know, they will work with those LLMs to code. And accordingly, any developer that is not better than the AI within a year, or who will not have a job. So, not everyone will lose their job, but imagine if unemployment in the technical coding space is now 30%. Right?
Doesn't have to be 100% for the economy to feel the pain.
Yeah.
So, so you're going to get two stages. One stage is that coupling, that symbiosis between the best humans at the job and the AI, right? You can see that in the UK, for example, with the NHS saying diagnosis happens with an AI first, and then we give you an appointment, you go and meet a human, but the human will also use an AI, right? You can see that. But then very, very quickly, if the diagnosis, which is, you know, typical what of what you do in technology, if if the if the human diagnosis starts to match or even become sub, uh, uh, accurate to the AI diagnosis, very quickly the organization will say, from now on, diagnosis is going to be done by the AI alone. We're just going to have top supervision for, you know, some of them, or, you know, humans will get only the very complex cases, or whatever, right? And so you can see the replacement cycle over time. But sooner or later, you're going to go from humans doing all the jobs using computers as a tool, humans partner, to to humans partnering, some humans partnering with the AI, uh, where the AI actually is the intelligence, and the human is just the vision and partnership to AI replacing everything with very, very humans in the very, very, very little or few humans in the in the cycle.
Okay. And that starts happening very soon.
That happens already.
Already. But we'll feel it.
12 months.
As as I said, it really depends on your tolerance level. Okay. Uh, but if you know, if you consider that,
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10% unemployment is high. Then it's going to happen within 12 months.
Okay. It is high, and we're going to start to feel that as a population.
Yeah. Not in every segment, remember. So it's not that the entire se, you know, economy will will will will get 10% increase in unemployment, but all of the sectors that will be handed over to AI, you're going to see 10, 10% unemployment within a year maximum from the time where AI takes over.
Okay. Now, this will shock everybody into finally taking this seriously, where they're sleeping on it right now. But it doesn't mean it will amplify. You think this current, uh, rivalry now between the superpowers and this aggressive capitalistic mindset?
Yeah. I think that's the problem. The problem is, if we, if we can call things by their their names, it may wake us up. But of course, the news media and social media and everyone will have opinions.
And the opinions will say, "Oh, the unemployment is because the Chinese are taking our jobs," or the unemployment is because the economy is, you know, in a recession. We will, you know, or they, and so on.
Right. So, there could be, there could be a very complex conversation in Congress, in, you know, in the media, in, in, in, uh, you know, the parliament, wherever, where there will be a bit of a struggle to say, is this because of AI taking the jobs, or is it because of decisions that are happening, or is it because of the war?
And meanwhile, your reality is slowly being chipped away and altered as we move forward into this world, and your power, and all of these seven things that you described, the face, face RP. So, those are all slowly deteriorating to where it makes it even harder to perceive and understand. So, so if you, if you know, if you know that, if you know, of course, any any of our listeners has every right to disagree, but if you agree with any of them, uh, as I said, early, I I I I look at it as a late-stage diagnosis, right? If a, if a, if a patient comes to a, uh, I don't know if we said this when we were filming or not, so I'll say it again, if you don't mind. You know, if if a patient goes to a physician and they are diagnosed with a late-stage disease, uh, the physician doesn't, you know, soften things. The the doctor will simply say, "Look, sit down. This is important. This is what we found. This is what the implications are. Unless you change your lifestyle, we're going to need you to do go through that therapy. We're going to need you to stop smoking. We're going to need you, whatever." Okay? And I I look at it that way. I look at what we're going through as a late state di stage diagnosis in general, by the way, for for all of capitalism and where it got us so far, for all of the power-hungry politics and where it got us so far, but also magnified by AI. And and a late-stage diagnosis is not a death sentence, you know, very, very often a late-stage patient will change their lifestyle, make decisions.
And they'll become better. They'll even thrive.
But it's serious enough.
But it's serious enough for you to take action, right? Because it could cause death if you don't change your behavior.
Yeah. So, let's talk about action. So, the action goes two layers. There is there there are actions that you need to take to become resilient within this environment, and there are actions that you you can take to help us all all of humanity escape this environment. Okay. Uh, to become resilient, unfortunately, I will say that you have to move fast. What does that mean? It means you have to be the one that is leading the AI. You have to be the one that knows the AI best. You have to be the one that uses the tools. You have to be the one. So, so, you know, I my immediate reaction when we were talking, uh, last time was probably, I'm not going to compete on being an author anymore. I've, you know, I've written enough books in my life to be a very, uh, desired speaker across the world. So, I'm just going to focus on speaking because speaking has a human connection element to it. AI cannot do that. Right.
Right. And then I realized, hold on, hold on. I am now suddenly 40, 40 to 50 IQ points smarter if I use Trixie. So, you know, just like I wrote with the wonderful Alice Law, Unstressible, we, she was my co-author. If I write with Trixie on this topic, I can actually write an amazing book, right? So, I'm basically telling myself the definition of the role of an author is different. Okay? You don't have to to do that against AI. You can do it with AI. And by the way, I still bring the human in connection part of it because I'm the one that's experiencing all of this. I'm the one that's guiding the conversation in alive while Trixie is much smarter than me at bringing numbers and knowledge to the conversation, right? And and because we, you know, released this weekly on Substack, which is a very different publishing approach, I now get the whole world to interact with me and Trixie, right? And in that format, this book is now being written by me, the AI, and the reader, which is a very unusual approach. But I jumped on that opportunity because it is a redefinition of what an author is, but it's very fit for this world. All right? So, this is number one. Number two is, uh, uh, uh, you you have to understand that this is a world in turmoil. Okay? And so the things that you need to do in a typical term all, you need to do here, you know, you need to re-look at your finances, you need to re-look at your skills, you need to re-look at your connections, you need to re-look at your spending, and so on and so forth, right? And and it's, it's quite interesting because, you know, if you look back at things like the Great Depression, it's quite interesting that those who changed from the 1920s and the flamboyant and, you know, competitive financial environment of the 1920s to 1929, where people started to form, you know, connections and reliance and bartering systems and so on and so forth, right? Some people, if you look back at, you know, the history of of the Great Depression, actually went through doing much better than others, right? They were they didn't continue to do things be like they did them before, but it's that human element, it's that idea of look, it's going to be tough for everyone, but some of us can hold on together and make it easier for all of us.
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