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Generationally, there's a massive mindset difference between someone who's 60 years old, 50 years old, 40 years old, and 30 years old in Australia at the moment. We all see things in slightly different ways, and maybe I'm just a little more connected to some of the younger guys that I've had my eyes open a little wider. And I've also been down the rabbit hole pretty hard on things like 9/11 and some of the things that got us into this mess that we're in Australia right now.
This conversation with Lyle Shelton is longer. I will release the longer form, but this 10-minute time that I've condensed down to it, I thought it really summed up these different mindsets and why so many young people are absolutely black pilled on politics and the future of the country when it comes to our relationships with foreign state actors having influence in Australia. I think you'll enjoy this bit because I got to ask some hard questions from someone who might not have been approached with those type of questions before. And I believe that if we're going to have a relationship with other states around the world, then we need to have a conversation about the way they've treated us in the past.
Now, before you go anywhere, make sure you like and subscribe and drop in a comment. Let me know what your thoughts are generationally, the Middle East, Australia, the subcontinent, where we're heading in the Australia first movement.
>> Australians, you know, overall, especially guys that are under 35 are completely sick of everyone else's mate. I think they're done.
>> Yeah.
>> And that's the feedback I'm consistently getting.
>> Yeah.
>> They don't give a about either side in the Middle East. They don't want to bar of it. They don't want to know about it. Just piss off and leave your over there.
Is the official 9/11 narrative correct? And I mean, I know that sounds like a long way ago, but it was, you know, 25 years ago now. It Do we believe the If we went back in If we look back at it now, do we believe the official 9/11 narrative?
>> Radical Islam, um you know, which is what attacked America on 9/11. Um, yeah, that that narrative, you know, that that narrative's right. A guy called Osama bin Laden and a whole heap of Wahhabi sort of um, Saudi Arabians, you know, wanted to wage jihad on the West and thought they'd start by bringing down the World Trade Center.
>> But you were old enough to remember September 11, right?
>> Yeah, yeah, I I saw it happen live.
>> How how how many buildings fell that day?
>> [laughter]
>> You know, now now let's be honest about this, right? How many buildings fell that day?
>> um, I haven't, you know, followed this rabbit down the hole. I'm aware of, you know, this
>> the problem is is that me and a whole bunch of Gen Z's and a whole bunch of millennials have gone down that rabbit hole.
>> Yeah.
>> And the official story doesn't stack up, which means that we were lied to to get into a forever war in the Middle East. We were lied to to get involved in Afghanistan. We were lied to in the early 2010s to push with the surge more Australian troops, more dead Australians. We were lied to constantly about the war on terror. And not only that, but we ended up with all these people from these countries in our country now. And so suddenly we've got the Middle East conflict playing out on our streets.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Right? And so when we know the official narrative of 9/11 was not correct, how do you believe anything else that happens after that? And I can't blame So I saw a poll that came out the other day, 87% of Australians aged under 33 have an unfavorable view of Israel. That's not all lefties, mate. That's a whole bunch of right-wing kids as well going, "You guys tell the lies and talk too. Both of you are as bad as each other." Now we can argue until the cows come home about who's the worst, right? But what we see in Australia is the third option is all of you can piss off and leave. We don't want any of you here and we don't want your problems. Do you understand that?
>> I I'm not sure if I understand the theories around how many buildings fell down on on 9/11.
>> was three buildings that fell that day, but there was only two airplanes. And architects and engineers for 9/11 truth have come out and done a million studies on this and showed that those planes would not have been able to take those buildings down. So so the official narrative around 9/11 has never ever gelled. And mate, I was in the military at the time and we even looked at it and went, "That doesn't look right, but hey, we're going to war, so it's all cool." And so as soon as anyone questions some of these official narratives, like we've been absolutely smashed online for the last 4 weeks by some of these Zionist guys because we don't want to be involved in these Middle East forever wars. And so it's like if you don't support Israel, then by default you love the child-raping prophet and you support Iran. We don't care about any of them.
>> A lot of people on the right and Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens and others have have gone down a path which I'm deeply concerned about. I'm not sure whether you're down that same path or not. Obviously, the forever wars were a bad thing and missteps were were made. Look, and it was obviously a mess because we, you know, helped create ISIS and blah blah blah and, you know, a lot of Australian treasure and blood was spilled in Afghanistan. So, I think, you know, we realized that that was all a big mistake, but that doesn't mean there isn't an existential threat from radical Islam and from the Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS and all these people that are trying to get a caliphate going.
>> How did we end up in a war for 20-odd years and we ended up with the enemy inside the gates, mate?
>> That's, you know, I
>> You know what I mean? Like we lost it we It's a We win the war? Did we lose the war?
>> it's it's it's a huge monumental tragedy. I mean, I have huge respect for our Afghan vets cuz they were over there fighting the Taliban.
>> And then imagine coming back here and finding out that you've actually brought these guys into your country.
>> But the Taliban are the sort of people who want to do bondi's.
>> Do you think we needed special laws in Australia to combat anti-Semitism?
>> No. No. And I don't and I'm very much
>> that's another thing that didn't look good for them.
>> I don't want to see and yeah, because, you know, the governments um Look, the government well, they've overreacted both ways, you know, they've beefed up sort of, you You all the sort of hate speech laws to deal with Islamophobia as well as anti-Semitism, and all it does is constrict free speech.
>> Well, who did it hurt the most? Who's it going to
>> It hurts It hurts any It hurts all of us.
>> Ah, it's mostly
>> Totally, yeah.
>> the Australians.
>> Yeah, and and, you know, if anything, it should be, you know, clamping Well, I don't want to see any more um anti-free speech laws or hate speech laws because I think they're misconceived. I think if people are advocating violence, that's where we should draw the line. If someone wants to say silly things and insult other people, that's bad and terrible, but I don't think there should be a law. It was a knee-jerk reaction to respond to the anti-Semitism Anti-Semitism is terrible. It has no place in Australia, but you're not going to fix it by more hate speech laws.
>> No, we love to internalize a threat here, mate. Whereas, you know, I look at it I I had this thought, you know, experiment, what would Israel have done after Bondi?
>> Mate,
>> they would have bombed the out of terrorist training camps in the Philippines. That's what they would have done.
>> Po- possibly.
>> No, but not possibly. 100% they would.
>> Well, what would Australia have done if if we'd have had, you know, someone like a mosque come and do that to a bunch of Australian women and kill 1,200 of our people?
>> We wouldn't do jack
>> Well, I hope we would.
>> We wouldn't We wouldn't do jack except create more laws to make it even harder for Australians.
>> Well, look, you know, that's because our country's in in decline, but, you know,
>> Yeah, I think Israel had no choice but to go into Gaza and to try and clean up a mess. And the mess, you know, they they use pile of rubble now, though.
>> Well, [laughter] look, you know, there's a lot of aid money Yeah, and if you're going to if you're going to shoot at you know, the IDF, you know, from inside houses, you know, you're going to get bombed. If you're going to If you're going to use use women and children as human shields, sadly some of them are going to get shot. And as in and I know the idea of have done their their best to try and avoid And and their combatant to civilian casualty ratio is the lowest in the history of urban warfare in the post-World War II era.
>> War is dirty. Kids get killed. Everyone gets killed. Like everyone dies. Like this is this is how this works. There's no there's no there's no saints here, you know. I mean I I and and we get a hard time going, "Oh, you don't go hard enough on Islam." Look, I don't give a about either of you. Like I literally I literally don't. I'll kick you all out of my country right now.
>> Mate, I know.
>> No, no, no, but what I guess the point I'm coming back to is that 87% of people under 33 years old have a unfavorable opinion of Israel, right? Now, there's a reason for that. They're not all lefties. Okay, there's a big chunk of right-wing kids in there as well and conservative kids that are going, "Screw your in the Middle East. Keep it away from my country." That's what they're trying to say.
>> As you said, you know, we we went and fought in Afghanistan, but we've imported a whole bunch of these people here don't share our values.
>> fight in Afghanistan? The IDF. You know who you know who didn't uh and send troops into Iraq? The IDF, mate. And so a lot of the Australian veterans here are going, "Well, hang on. We fought the war on terror to defend our ally, you know, as well and we uh you guys didn't put any boots on the ground."
>> Yeah, but I I I I don't know all the reasons for that, but um
>> And not only that, but they recently said as well if there was an invasion of Iran, they wouldn't be putting boots in Iran, too. So, you know, a lot of people watch this stuff and go, "That seems a little bit unfair." And I don't want to get into the back and forth.
>> I think Israel are probably and again, I don't understand all their foreign policy, but what I do see is that they've made themselves very, very strong and they have the capability militarily to protect themselves, whether it's Hezbollah, whether it's making pages blow up in the faces of their enemies, or whether it's the capability to bomb Iran. We have no capability to defend ourselves.
>> Uh again, because we have bought into the whole globalist narrative and the global No, they didn't because
>> So, they got a birth rate above three. They're they're they're an they're an ethno-state. Let's be clear about that. They are clearly an ethno-state and they uh they, you know, carry a big stick.
>> You know, anyone who's got a birth rate above three means that the young people have hope in their future. Our birth rate has crashed to 1.4. Our young people don't have in their future.
>> Yeah, but look, it's a nation that's got a mission, it's purpose, it's got national pride. Uh we've been told we're illegitimate uh and and we shouldn't we should just all be global citizens and accept anyone everyone from everywhere here and uh and let our identity
>> Yeah, I think we could have taken a lesson out of Israel's book. I mean if I go back to that thought experiment again of what would Israel do? If Israel was Australia in this region, uh they probably would have taken Timor, they probably would have taken New Guinea, New Zealand would have been a state of Australia, mate.
>> to do to Well, they haven't you know, the only reason they've gone into Lebanon is to to to drive back Hezbollah and obviously they push back the Iranians and the Syrians.
>> A lot of Christians in there though, too.
>> Yeah, look a lot of Actually, the largest as I heard, the highest proportion of Christians actually lived in that area.
>> Yeah, and they've all had their houses bombed, too, so.
>> Yeah, look, again, I I don't suspect the Israeli um military is going there just to willingly bomb people. They're trying to clean out Hezbollah who hide among civilians and this is the modus operandi of these Islamic jihadis, unfortunately. I don't want to be an apologist for Israel. Um I admire Israel. I think it's a you know, an amazing nation what they've done. I don't look at it in theological or eschatological terms. Um I just see it as a successful nation in the Middle East. They have a right to exist and if we were attacked the way they were, I hope we would uh have the fortitude and and have the young people willing to you know, defend the country and
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