Real Reason for Iran War & Why Successful Men Can’t Settle Down (What No One Says) w/ Hitmaka

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Oh man, we gonna talk about We're gonna talk about that a little later. Um, we got a guest joining us. Shout out to Hitmaker.

We're going to get some perspective on that that a little later cuz um this there's still some things to unpack about that. But uh before we start, first and foremost, man, shout shout out to the brother Two Chains. His book is out right now. True.

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Good brother right there, man. Um, 12:00 tomorrow. We talk about a lot of stuff as far as business, you know, he early investments that he made. Oh, man. It's a lot going on, man. Like, you know, a lot of good insight and, you know, always enjoyable. He got a big personality.

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Yeah, for sure.

Yeah. Okay, so we got um a few things to talk about. Of course, we're going to talk about Iran for sure, but let's started out with hip-hop conversation. We've been starting the show with hip-hop um conversations.

Yeah.

Um, I ask you how you feeling.

Yeah. How you feeling? How you feeling, my brother?

I'm good. I'm good, man. How you feeling?

I'm good, man. Good. I know you've been running around um put putting the palace together, my boy. Who ain't no shout out to all the good GC's, the drywall guys, the the guys who show up on time. You don't got to just and that is a premium.

Full-time job, man. Full-time job. This house home construction. Let's start off with I know you had the question about um New York, but I don't want to make it a East Coast bias because I do feel like we talk about the East Coast a lot. Let's let's do something let's do it south if we can. Um, who's who's the who's the top lyricist in southern history? What top?

Oh, that's tough, man. I wasn't expecting this one. Um, I I'll let you go first. I mean, off the top of my head, I I would have to say Andre, Killer, Mike, Wayne. Who am I missing? Troy text me some people, but Andre for sure. I know we had the conversation the other the other week about Andre and you know that lineup, but when it come to that panoo and efficiency level. Um, now I'm not going to say he notorious big level, but Andre up there. Killer Mike, I think incredibly underrated out of the south. Um, big crit underrated as hell when it comes to the pit. and of course TI um tip one of the best of all time but out of the south. So off the top of my head that that's who would who would come to mind and of course Wayne but what about you?

For me that's a good list. Um I think Scarface is definitely up there.

I forget about Scarface.

Yeah.

Yeah. Scarface. He's he's early. He's an early lyricist from the South. Like an early early lyricist from the South.

Diary album. Oh my god. Tough. Yeah, Scarface is definitely up there. For me personally, I would say TI is probably my top lyricist ever from the South. Me just that's just my own personal opinion.

But his body of work, the you know, from trap music to urban legend to King album, like you know what I mean? like his body of work, like as far as like his lyrical ability.

Yeah.

Um how he puts, you know, the words together. I think he's my favorite lyricist. Right underneath him would be Rick Ross.

How I forget Ross. Oh my that Rich Forever mixtape. I mean, Ross got classic albums, but that mixtape early.

Ross Ross, it's hard. It's one A and one B with him and Ross. I mean,

Yeah. His his lyrical ability.

Yeah.

You talking about B.I. like that's what he was like, yo, like the second coming of like as far as like his his lyrical ability.

Yep.

I don't think we've ever really seen the only person I could really say is TI really from the south. No disrespect, but I just feel like the South when you think of Rick Ross, you don't necessarily think of a southern hip-hop artist as far as his style.

Yeah. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like he never gave

Yeah. He was he was talking that fly [ __ ] bars like

Word play. So Rick Ross is is a lyricist. He don't get enough credit. I know a lot of people don't get enough credit.

I know a lot of people hate on Rick Ross. I you know but

And why?

You know it's funny, especially how you started out like if you was in hip-hop culture and knew he was putting pain in the path for people and people wasn't giving him his fair credit then to put out the you know the single which was a smash and just continue to reinvent himself I don't know how you can hate on hate on Ross.

No.

And his ear is impeccable too.

Yeah. And he went bar for bar with the greats Jay-Z Anytime Rick Ross is on a song with Jay-Z, he goes crazy. And he has multiple He has multiple songs with Jay-Z.

Uh Nas, him and Nas is two of my that's my one of my favorite collaborations. They've done multiple songs together. They put out classic music.

Um, so yeah, he's he's on on caliber with any of the top lyricist ever. Um for sure in my opinion. And then of course you got to go Yeah. Little Wayne. He um he's a lyricist for sure.

Um Little Wayne to me is more on the Eminem side of things.

Um as far as his lyrical ability like he's he's like a a mad scientist like you know what I'm saying? Talking about 6' 7 foot like he he he got that word play like real real G's moving silence like lasagna. Like his word he got word play like scrabble word play. Not necessarily my cup of tea because I I like relatable rap. Like I like Little Wayne when he was like hustler music like the hustler music and [ __ ] like that. I just don't like bars for the sake of bars. I respect it though. Like Eminem like Eminem a lot of times he's bars for the sake of bars.

Okay. People say that but most of the people who write in a relatable bars not living the [ __ ] that they writing.

True. But at least it's something that's still like a real life scenario. Like whether Rick Ross actually lived what he's talking about or not, it's still painting a picture that's real life. Like you know what I mean? Like as opposed to just random word play that's put together. But no disrespect to Lil Wayne rapping about being the best rapper and just Yeah, I I get you on that.

He's a lyricist. So those would be my top n Yeah. Scarface, Little Wayne, TI, Rick Ross.

Mhm. And then the the fifth I know you know people man I know that there's a lot of rappers man you got in ball and a a ball.

Yes, Eightball and out of out of Memphis, you know, they they yeah, they did their thing out of Memphis.

Ah. Troy said if 3000 Andre 3000 he yeah, he's a lyricist. If we gonna count Virginia though, Troy said for sure. Push.

See, Push. I don't really count Push a T.

But Virginia is.

Oh, then we can say J. Cole.

For. And that's for. Yeah.

So, that's a d cuz it's like these dudes are not southern rappers to me. Like, but they from the south. Virginia is the South.

So, is North Carolina?

For sure.

But J. Cole, you think of J. Cole, you think of southern hip hop. He He's definitely a a backpack hybrid for backpack kid. East Coast Blueprint for sure. You can say that about some artists from the Midwest. Like Kanye is a backpack artist, East Coast inspired at heart. Lupe Fiasco uh to some degree. Shout out to Pump J. Bump Jay was too, but they're still from the South.

Yeah. I don't know though. I just can't I don't know. It's weird. I feel like I mean, yes, you're 100% right. There's no way to say that Virginia is not the South.

Mhm. Or Push a T has no southern influence in his me like know what I'm saying like Push a T that's New York coke flow.

That's cuz y'all was coming from Brooklyn and you and J. Cole is New York backpack flow he went to St. John's University and he does credit that for his major influence. But when I think of J. Cole, I don't think of any southern influence at all.

If you put the top 10 Southern MC's versus the top 10 New York MC's all time who win.

I mean, we can't do that. Shout out to the South, though. Shout out to the South, though.

Wayne, hold on. Wayne, Push, TI, uh 3000. That's a.

I mean, the scale, the scales is kind of lopsided when you got Rock, Jay-Z, Biggie, Nas, J. The Kiss.

It's it's a little lopsided.

Push, Kiss, or no? Shout to Kiss. Shout to Fat Joe. See you at the game. Appreciate you, my G. Kiss beating Push.

To me, to me, yeah, I got Jay to Kiss on Push a T. But Push your teeth. But yeah, that's interesting. I mean, J. Cole, if we going by just just pure geography.

J. Cole might be the best lyricist to ever come out of the South.

If we going just by pure.

You trying to line me up. I'm not going to fall. J. Cole, J. Cole get he lyrically J. Cole not better than Ton. He not better than Wayne. Arguably, arguably.

He not he not better than 3000 for sure. And I like J. Cole. I don't want y'all to think I'm a J. Cole hater because I may see him a Soho on a bicycle. I don't want him to elbow drop me. I like J. Cole. I like when he was going that little pump and all that. He's tough for sure. Is he better than 3000?

Is Jake That's that's that's a that's a good lineup. Big Cole better than Andre 3000?

H. I don't know what his fan base name. Shout out to y'all. Media team. Don't clip this up. If I had if I have to listen to something, if I'm on an island by myself, I'm listening to J. Cole over Aar. I'm just saying me personally. I'm not talking post Erica Bou when he, you know, but Andre 3000 is is dead nice. Let's not even play around with him. But J. Cole, man. Yo, he tough.

He Yeah, he might be the best lyricist. Damn, that's that's crazy. Is J ever.

He's up there.

Over over peak double cup. Wayne, he's up there, bro. J. Cole or some lyrical just lyrically.

I agree. Top three, but it it's prime. When Wayne was going at Hov, I don't know.

This turned into this turned into several different conversations that I wasn't expecting. A either is J. Cole a southern hip hop artist? Y. And B is J. Cole and Push a T southern hip hop artist? And just because so is it geography?

Yes.

Or is it influence? Style? I mean, of course uh the the styling. I can make an argument. Troy, chime in if you need to. I don't know if J. Cole, if you take the first three bodies of work are better than Beans. Beanie Sigel. One of the best lyricists of all time though.

Underrated as hell.

Yeah. He be ain't too many people. Ain't too many people.

Yeah. Better than Beanie Sigel. Beanie Sigel literally.

Nah. He said some of them for Hov. He was getting Hov.

Yeah. Beanie Sigel's different. Beanie Sigel's different. So he's not just a regular rapper. Beanie Sigel not a regular rapper.

He don't get the credit. He just shot the beans. Shout out to everybody in Philly. Beans to me is one of the greatest of all time and does not get the credit for it.

Yeah. When he said when it's like blue blood when it hit the air like that that song right there.

One of the greatest songs ever.

Yep. And what was that club? Him in the mill and he was going crazy on that song. Yep. Elliot Wilson, the academics. Clip it up. Put in chat. Put in chat what y'all think. Who's the best lyricist out of the south? Is J. Cole the best lyricist ever out of the south? Is J. Cole even a southern artist? Is Pusher T a southern artist?

For sure. For sure.

How do you define what a southern artist actually is?

Yeah. And regionally, who has the best ear? Cuz Ross's ear is impeccable. But that for real Timberland, Missy.

Where does the south where does the south start? Virginia?

I mean.

Does it start cuz some some might say Virginia is not really the south cuz you got um DMV even though where Push is from is not the DMV.

But.

The DMV, right? Like that's like northern Virginia, that's part of that whole Maryland, District of Columbia. Um, so that would be like Middle East. Uh, is that considered the south? Is Virginia really considered the south?

Cuz they got a lot of northern northern influence.

For sure. But like I said, that's cuz y'all was infiltrating rich quarter vibes. So you.

When you think when you think the south starts, Virginia, Northern Virginia, southern. Let's go. Southern.

Southern Virginia. Mid mid Virginia.

Yeah. Mid. Seven. Seven cities. I mean, how does And then how how far does it go west? Because then the west is like Arkansas. Is Arkansas the south?

Arkansas Midwest technically.

So Oklahoma and all of that, that's like Midwest.

Yeah. Yeah. Being from the Midwest, we would argue that, but.

Texas is South.

Yeah.

Texas South.

So Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi. After after that, what's that? Arkansas is the next state to the left. Arkansas, that's when you start getting into Midwest territory.

Yeah. Kentucky, T Kentucky is Midwest, Tennessee is south, Alabama south, Mississippi south, Louisiana, Arkansas, south. So.

And then and then then the last point about this, Florida. Florida's an interesting state cuz Florida definitely the south, but then Miami is not really the south, but Miami is the south. That's just like when the Egyptians say they're not African. We not doing that.

Africa.

I think that that plays a part into Rick Ross' flow. There's a big difference between Dade County and um where's Kodak Black from? What's that county called?

I don't know.

Broward.

Okay. The difference between Dade County and Broward. You see how country and how them them boys are.

We're not going to do that.

Yeah.

No, but I'm just saying. Shout out to my people. Opa Locka.

All. But you see Miami, you see it's a Miami is different. Miami is is more metropolitan. It's it's not really the south.

But that like pork and bean project all that like culture may be different for sure.

Yeah. All right. Interesting perspective.

Just an imperialistic view, you know.

But top, put in chat the top 10 rappers from the south and make a bracket versus top 10 versus the East just for viral and clip worthiness. Um, the them first four slots New York, but five through 10. Hold on. I got it. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. We can cut this out. But you you can't use Ross and say the influence and take away from Puss. Use the influence, right? Because Ross Ross is an anomaly in the sense that he sounds like that, but nobody else sounds like that. JT Money, Trick Daddy, Trina, they all sound like southern rappers. It's just that Ross is an anonymous.

He was an exception to the rule.

Different like Kanye is an exception to the Midwest.

I just got I just wanted to say.

Yeah. But Ross. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. All right. All right. Let's talk about what some some some very important news in the world right now.

Yeah.

Uh Iran, man. Uh the US and Israel had uh strikes on Iran starting from last week, killed the Supreme Leader, then killed the new Supreme Leader, um bombed the uh school. I don't understand how they how you have Palunteer technology that literally they say it's like mosquitoes that can go into a room and and and you can't tell what if you can bomb a school or not. And I get to I to Iran's credit, they they they're bombing US military bases.

So it's like who when you say the word terrorism, right? How do we really define that word? If if one country is bombing and the and the four service members that died died from friendly fire.

Yeah.

So man, there's a lot to unpack here, but arrest ourselves. Yeah. You how you bombing a school and imagine if a school was bombed in America or a school was bombed in Israel. Would that how that would be described? It happens in Iran and it's just hey usual.

And then Iran retaliates by bombing US military bases. Like that's what you're supposed to do. They're not they're not just bombing random kindergartens.

But they've they've responded by bombing in um neighboring countries. UAE. Uh they hit Saudi Arabia's oil, one of their oil fields. They did uh Kuwait, uh Qatar. So they they're like, "Okay, anybody that's an ally with America, you let America you have a presence in your country, okay, it's up for you. We can't we're not going to be able to hit Israel. We're not going to be able to hit America." They did hit Israel a little bit, but if we can't get them, then we're going to get you for you supposed to be our friends.

Mhm. And you okay with this [ __ ] Okay, enough. Yep. It's war time.

So, what's your what's your thoughts on this whole on this whole situation?

It's layered. Um because even in one of the clips, the the Secretary of War said that this was not a fight that we wanted and a lot of backlash was on social media about him saying like, "What do you mean it's a war that we didn't want?" But I think it was coded in saying this was not our initiative. We were the bully or the enforcer behind this issue. Um, secondly, it's interesting in the timing of the deposition and these files coming out that we all of a sudden then start this issue. And meanwhile, 11 years ago or 13 years ago, he was criticizing Obama for being a weak leader if he decides to attack Iran. And I always say whatever a person puts on you that you're doing, it's really because they want to do it or there's a character flaw that they have. So when a person was like, "Oh, you you I I think you do this." It's like, "No, you do that and you want to project that upon me." Um, and it's it's an unnecessary risk that we need to take. If you talk about it from an economic standpoint, we can play the clip later. This Iran conflict could lead to that 27 crash that I've been talking about because if Iran and of course allegedly Iran has agreed to abandon or like leave some of the ballistic missile and nuclear program stuff as a part of agreement to maybe ease the war. But if this goes on for a few years and they continue to attack UAE and Dubai and Qatar, which is our think of UAE as our venture capitalist, the second venture capitalist, they're our second and reason if they corrupt and destroy that country and now the money has to go into rebuilding Dubai and UAE, the money flow stops for the Trump administration, the Trump family, and the circular investment [ __ ] that is happening in AI right now. Fourth is Maduro, January, Elmento, February. This I'm not saying that their leadership were kind characters. But we have to be very clear. It's wrong to go into another person's country and kidnap a [ __ ] leader and just randomly kill a leader and think nothing is going to happen. And to your terrorism point, I think terrorism is only classified if it's it's a black or brown person. For those of you who don't know, even going back to El Mitchell, and I'll touch on that lightly, there are a lot of sleeper cells in the United States of America from different factions and nations that no one wants to talk about waking up, especially when it comes to that regime down there.

Yeah, they cut. Yeah.

That's God protecting me. God did. So that's my see that's my queue. So but what are your thoughts Rashad?

Um man, it's so much. I just saw I think Ford posted that it already cost $und00 billion for this operation so far as far as US tax dollars. I think it was done for three reasons. Um I think it was done to distract from the Epstein files. Man, people have such such short attention spans. Um, that's not even talked about anymore. We can talk about, you know, the Clintons a little later, but I think it was it was done to distract from the Epstein files. I think it was done because Israel told told um them that to do it. And the third thing I think it was done because they is is to also hurt China.

Um when you.

Tell me more about the China point, not to cut you off.

Well, when you look at China, okay, they they've um two allies, strong allies from China. Venezuela, as far as their their oil supply, they were getting a lot of oil from Venezuela, and they they pretty much took that play over. Now, Venezuela is controlled by America as far as the oil is concerned.

Mhm. The next major ally from a oil standpoint was Iran, and now it looks like that's going to probably or at least they would want it to follow the same route as far as Venezuela, where you have, you know, an administration that's pretty much a puppet government for the West and America can take control of the oil and cut China out. So starving China from a a energy resources standpoint.

Mhm. Is going to be harmful to the Chinese economy. And I think that that's something that's a political play that can definitely um be seen as hostile attack on China without actually attacking China. Attacking attacking its lifelines around it to make it pivot to make it, you know, um drain resources and and reserves and um, you know, citizens have some level of um hardship. So definitely I think that that was some thought process in it as far as like this will have negative effects on China.

And um, so I think I think it was a combination of three things in my opinion. Um, but when you look at the the reasoning behind it, like you said, I mean, he's on record for saying that Obama's going to start a war with Iran because he's unskilled and he u he can't negotiate, which is ironic because Obama actually negotiated the deal with Iran.

And he took it away.

Exactly. And so they already had agreed to everything. They took it away. Um, and then they bombed Iran during the summer, six months ago, and said allegedly that they completely obliterated their whole nuclear capabilities.

Mhm. So what would be the point of bombing them again to get rid of their nuclear capabilities when you said that you already got rid of their nuclear capabilities and they've already agreed to not have a nuclear program and they've been on record. Netanyahu has said that they're two weeks away from a nuclear program since 1996. 1996 he said that they were two weeks away from a nuclear program literally.

So they've been two weeks away from a nuclear program since it was written came out.

For sure. All eyes on me.

That's a long two weeks. So, I definitely think that this is this is a distraction, but it's not going to go as easy as as I think America might think because I just saw a video about this as well. They have a very complex political system. It's not like Libya where you could just take out one person or Iraq where you could just take out one person. Their system is based on a variety of different um hierarchies. So you have like the supreme leader, but then you have the the um the guard, then you have the the royal council. Like this this is multi-layered.

Yes. The leadership the leadership standpoint is multi-layered and it's and it's fractured into different regions and um.

As it should be, like in America, but it's.

Right. Exactly. So it's not it's not as easy as just killing a dictator.

Yeah. And then putting a new dictator into place. That's that's traditionally been the thing. But what I'm also realizing now is that the play, I think especially in the Middle East, when you look at these countries, even going back to Libya, is not necessarily all right, one one play is to um regime change. Another play is just to destabilize the country.

For sure. And just weaken it and just have it in fight.

Yeah. You know, and just, you know, have, you know, terrorist groups pop up and then they start fighting because it's just like a weak country is almost just as good as a a strong country with a corrupt leader because the strong country with a corrupt leader, if you get a new leader, then that's becomes a problem all over again. But if you get a weak, a weak, destabilized country.

Y. Then they that's really the Africa play. That was the play for Africa from the beginning. It's not necessarily at at a certain point it's to prop up fake um leaders, but then at a certain point it's just to destabilize the country so much that they have no power, they have that they they are no real threat, and you can just do whatever you want to do because the the country is just so destabilized. So I think that I think that's really the play with Iran right now. I don't think that they can even have a a regime change that that quickly or that swiftly. I think it's really to just destabilize the country.

And by destabilizing the country, then you know, America and its allies will be able just to kind of, you know, do whatever they want to do. And in the destruction of a country, there's a lot of money in destruction capitalism. um the cleanup of a country after and the contracts that are awarded are in the billions. We saw that in Katrina. We saw it in Iraq. Uh, and the 2001 through 04 blueprint. It was Halliburton who will be beneficiaries of that. Probably won't be Halliburton this time. That's why I kept screaming Monday for everyone asking what's the oil play. That that was decided months ago. You're late there. But if you do destabilize a country, there's a lot of companies in America who would benefit from that. And the other issue is a certain agenda or regime would like the Middle East to be solely theirs. That's the other underlying issue.

Then. That's over that's the overlying issue.

Yeah. That's the overlying issue. But then it comes back to um okay, variety of different things here and this is my frustration with American citizens is that um man, it's so just so easy to manipulate because it's like some people like what these people are saying, death to America. Like they are they're are enemies. Well, I mean, there's a reason why they're saying death to America.

America started this whole thing to begin with.

Intentionally.

Which is crazy that they talking about they want free elections and they want democratically elected officials, whatever. Like they had they had a stable government. It might not have been the democratically elected government, but they had a a stable leader.

We don't have a democratic elected government.

First and foremost, but they had a stable leader that was actually for the Iranian people that wanted to actually the Iranian people to um to uh benefit from their natural resources. Crazy idea.

Yeah. And um and because of that he was uh taken out. And they propped up Brit. So BP, they propped up Britain and America propped up the Shah of Iran. Who had a who was an American puppet. Brutal, brutal regime for 26 years. He did the whole dictator thing and um gave America and its allies whatever they wanted as far as the oil, and the people who suffered and he lived in lavish, you know, mansions, the whole thing. And um that caused the revolution. And that caused the anti-American sentiment. And that is why we are here now. If they would have just left them alone to begin with, we wouldn't have had this problem now.

Mhm. And like I said, this has happened several different times. When you look at Venezuela, when you look at Iraq, like this is the same thing. And then it's like you throw a stone and hide your hand. Then you want to play victim like, "Oh no, like no, they saying death to America. They're doing this. They like there they're there are sworn enemies. We never had everybody about the problems that we had in the Middle East. We never had problems in the Middle East until we started them. Traditionally going back since forever. We never had any problems in the Middle East ever.

Research why we have problems in the Middle East if you want to know.

For sure. But we never had problems in the Middle East until we started all. Like it's crazy. Somebody somebody hit you in the back of your head, you turn around, you slap them, and then they call the cops on you.

Yes. It's like when when Ghost sent Kanan to jail, then you wonder why. It's like, well, you started it. You can't be you can't tell a person how to respond once you once you start war. And to all the American citizens who think this will not affect you, it will. Financially. I mean, Troy got a clip you want to play about uh what happens if Iran closes the Strait um in response to the military strikes. Can we play that real quick?

Yeah, let's play that.

If Iran blocks the Strait of Hormuz, what impact will it have on the entire world and which country will be affected the most? First, let's understand what the Strait of Hormuz actually is. It is a small area of just 33 km located between Iran, Oman, and the UAE. It is a narrow sea passage through which almost 20% of the world's oil supply flows, nearly 17 million barrels every day. This oil comes from eight countries located in the Persian Gulf, including Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE. For the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Qatar, 90% of their oil exports pass through this narrow route to reach the rest of the world. If Iran blocks the Strait of Hormuz, following countries will suffer the most damage. First is India because it imports 85% of its oil and 60% of that comes from Middle Eastern countries like Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and the UAE. Fuel prices in India would skyrocket and as a result, everything related to oil and all industries would face severe disruption. Industries could shut down. There would be job losses and the economy would be severely affected. The second most affected country would be China. China is the world's largest oil importer, bringing in 10 million barrels of oil every day. 40% of China's oil imports pass through this Strait of Hormuz. Although China has built oil pipelines with Russia and Central Asia, they don't even fulfill 20% of its energy needs. So, if the Strait of Hormuz is blocked, China's economy could suffer a massive blow. And if China's economy is shaken, its effects will be felt all over the world. The third most affected country would be Japan as it imports 90% of its oil and 75% of that passes through the Strait of Hormuz. The fourth most affected country would be Saudi Arabia. 80 to 90% of Saudi Arabia's oil goes to the rest of the world through Strait of Hormuz, while only 10% goes to Europe via its Red Sea coastline. So if this choke point is blocked, Saudi Arabia's economy will be heavily impacted. Imagine that a country suddenly loses 80 to 90% of its revenue. What would happen to it? Something similar could happen to Saudi Arabia. There's also a high chance that Saudi Arabia might send in its military to reopen the route, and that could make the situation even worse. Fifth is Pakistan, which gets about 90% of its oil through the Strait of Hormuz. This oil meets around 27% of the country's energy needs. So, if the route is blocked, prices in Pakistan could rise sharply. But there's an interesting twist. Since Pakistan shares a border with Iran and several government reports suggest that 35% of Pakistan's diesel comes unofficially from Iran. So if the Strait is blocked, Pakistan might turn to Iran for oil either quietly or through an official deal. Next in line is the UAE because as nearly as 72% of its oil exports rely on this Strait of Hormuz. Globally, experts warned that oil prices could soar past $150 a barrel, causing widespread inflation and possibly triggering a major global recession. So this small 33 km area holds enough power to shake the entire world.

All right. Uh yeah. So I mean that was Yeah. So I know we got our guest on. We going we going to bring them up in in in a couple minutes. But yeah, I mean that that definitely plays a major part as far as closing the street and and the economic effects that's going to have. So it's not something that you can just, you know, this there's effects. It's a domino effect. Every action, every action has a reaction.

For sure. And they could have long-lasting effects. Hopefully this will be over with in a couple weeks. But the Russian Ukraine war has been going on what, four years, five years?

Yeah. And people really need to learn um world history, like the real world history. Yes. And civics and and American like history, like because it's very uneducated population that we have as far as like just looking at things for the surface value, what what the media tells you. But you don't understand so much and it's really unfortunate and it's it's it's it's very harmful when you're that ignorant about about the past history and world world um issues, politics, it it becomes extremely like, you know, harmful and uh really, really dangerous in certain regards.

Yeah. If you think this won't affect you long term, it will. It's not only going to affect the stock market, it's going to affect the the price of gas, the cost of goods, delivery, and then this is setting the ground if this continues to be in World War II.

Yeah. So, be mindful.

Be mindful. All right, we got a guest. Let's bring our guest up, shall we?

Yo, deal. Ain't nothing in the studio right now. Mixing with the legendary Jason Joshua, man. You see this man? Look at his numbers, bro. Like.

Oh, you going to get right to it.

400 billion streams.

That's crazy. So, you you record all the time. You in the studio all the time.

24/7, bro. I'm in LA right now.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah. I'll be in Miami at Xbox 24/7 going in.

Workaholic, man. That's that's that's the that's the result, man. People see.

That's a lesson in itself.

People see the success but they don't understand the amount of work that is needed to put in.

Bro, I'm I was like thinking about it just resonating on my career. A lot of people think that like my first start was when I was Young Berg in 2007 when I made my first hit, but I really started in man, I would probably say the year 2000, 2001. I got signed to DMX. Yeah. Like and that was kind of like the pinnacle like jumping off of my career and just being in a whole totally different space cuz I literally went from telling my dad like, "Yo, on Christmas like, yo, can you buy me um Flesh N Bone's Flesh of My Flesh, Blood of My Blood CD for Christmas and by spring I was signed to DMX. I was on the uh what these [ __ ] want from a [ __ ] video set. Um everybody was there. Aaliyah, Kevin L. It was a three-day shoot. Hype Williams did the video and I'll never forget I went there and um X, I rap for X and X was like, "I'mma sign you. It's not going to be fast." And then we had like a legendary moment like Aaliyah was there, all these different people and um we went to a Mary J. Blige concert and like um it was like in a Studio City or something like that. But we left the Paramount lot. I was in the back seat, X's manager at the time, Ali was in the back seat, Meth Man was in the front seat. Methan tells this story on a different podcast somewhere. My X was driving. Oh my god, bro. I've never seen a man drive so crazy about donuts in the middle of the street on a 405 in between cars running doing all that. And I was like a kid. Like the people that was with me like they was shook. They was trying to keep up behind us or whatever. But like man, that that was like the legendary moments like the beginning. So you got to think a real career. Like I was Iceberg, Young Berg. Now I'm Hitmaker. I'm three different people in the same career.

Yeah. Maker, man. You look at yourself as the as the as the producer for our generation like you know that there was different gener like there was Dr. Dre, there was um Pharrell, there was um.

Had a moment.

Primo. Like.

Do you look at yourself as like the that guy for our generation?

Um, I hate talking like this because you know how the internet. But like my OG who I was just in there with mixing, he reminded me for the last 10 years I've had a number one record every year for the last 10 years. So I think that that kind of speaks for itself. I think at one point in 2018 I had 13 records in the top 40 at one time. And I don't know another producer that kind of did that with the exception of like a Pharrell or somebody, you know what I'm saying? And just had that type of run. And I think that I might not be like Hot 100, Old Town Road, you know what I'm saying? Number one on the Hot 100, but I've had a lot of my [ __ ] is cultural, you know what I'm saying? Like my songs going to stand the test of time and be here. I would kind of mirror it to um Hit Boy and Mike Will uh versus like Hit Boy played a lot of them Hot 100 number ones, but the culture always win at the end of the day. And just to be involved with so many different people and artists and I don't really judge it by the stats like how many lives have you changed? How many people have I got a publishing deal? How many people have I got a record deal? How many artists have came to me for that first song and it went number one and had success which was able to open up a door for whatever their situations is and for the next thing to come. So that's how I kind of like gauge. And if we doing it on that level, then yeah, like I'm I'm one of them for real. For real.

At the top of the show, we talked about uh top lyricists from the South and East Coast. Being from the Midwest, who are your top five artists or lyricists from the Midwest that you think don't get enough shine?

That don't get enough shine. I think that uh Twista is really um influential and iconic. He did his own thing. Nobody does what he does. I think that similarities, you know, Midwest got their own thing. So, I would say Twista, Bone Thugs N Harmony don't get a lot of um influence and a lot of credit because they were actually the first ones to put the melody on it that I personally remember. Um, who else is another unsung? Lupe Fiasco. One of the greatest rappers that I've ever been around in my whole career. And a lot of people don't know like I'm literally like one of them Forrest Gump type career [ __ ] like I lived in the house with Lupe Fiasco when right before when he got his deal and when he did First and 15s. I lived in the house with him. Me books. I was like the little shorty that they would go sick on him. Like, you know, you go somewhere and be like, "Yo, go rap. Go go go get him." And I was like that guy for them. Like man, I I'm lived in a house with Eric Sermon. Like it's just a whole bunch of [ __ ] So Lupe crucial. I'm not Lupe. Twista. Um, who else was the third one I said? Damn. Lupe, Twista. Um.

Bone Thugs.

Bone Thugs for me. Um, Do or Die from Chicago. I'm just go all Chicago. Do or Die.

And then um on some just lyricist and and just someone that's like a big homie and someone that's respectable that you can always like point to as somebody that's a good guy. Common, of course, you know what I'm saying? Like for real for me.

Yeah.

So, we going to get into some of the comments that we made last week cuz um I know that was interesting. But before we do that, I do got one business question to ask you. I don't know if you saw this. I'm assuming that you did um uh Teddy Riley was on a podcast and he was talking about um Keith Sweat and he was saying that he pretty much produced most of Keith Sweat's um hits like Keith Sweat's greatest hits was produced by Teddy Riley and he never got paid ever. And then Jermaine Dupri was saying like that's pretty much impossible. There's no way a producer cannot get paid from a hit song unless you sign a contract to give up your publishing rights. So, as a producer, what's your thoughts on on this?

I'm trying to figure out like what what does that mean? He didn't get an advance or he got no publishing? Like, is it is it both or?

I think he would say no publishing.

How though?

That's what JD was saying. That's what JD was saying. So explain to our audience like from a from a business standpoint, how does it work? How does it work from a producer standpoint? Like when you produce a hit record, how does that.

work? >> All right. So for me, right, so in my case and scenario, like earlier in my career, I was able to I did like a lot of programming on my album and stuff like that. I don't program beats no more. So I have a collective of team that I've just built all similar to the Hitman or similar to any collective to where you see a bunch of guys that's actually creating stuff. So that's my thing. But like the way I kind of lift it up, I uplift the people that I work with. So here's an example. Boom. Say I meet a guy. Say say y'all send me a beat and I like it and I'm like, "Yo, this is fire. Y'all don't have no placements. Y'all don't have nothing." I take it. I go and I make a song for someone that signed to Atlantic Records. At Atlantic Records, my song deal is $40,000 per song. So when you do a song deal, they buy in bulk. So I think my song deal for Atlantic was 35 songs at $40,000 per song. So they frontload and pay me the first half the f 20,000 times 35. When I sign that deal, it came directly to my pocket. Now that leaves a $20,000 cash in the back end for when the records are actually placed. So when y'all send me that beat and I go place that record on a Cardi B, it's 20 grand waiting for you with y'all name on it. So I split all fees evenly. Other people, they might do a they might I've seen people dictate like, yo, go get a 50 grand check and give $5,000 to somebody else. And I think that that's what separates me and why I'm so have so much longevity in this because I'm actually aliooping a co-producer who's not signed to me. He's not published by me. I'm putting him at a rate at a premium rate of 40 grand inside a major label system. So when he decides, y'all decide to go take that momentum and place another track in Atlantic Records, you're at 40 grand. So your next track should be slated at 40 grand or 20 at the very least. So I can't really relate to that. That sound like he did a deal >> and he signed all his rights over with whoever it was. I don't know if it's Jean Griffy or I don't know who he was saying or whatever, but it sounds like whatever contract he might have had or didn't have, someone just took power attorney and collected all his his funds. >> Yeah, he regrets it now. Can uh really quick as a followup, can you talk to us about a work ethic? >> And because a lot of times people don't want to hear that, but they want the success and the money that comes with it >> for the last 7 years, 10 years. How many days a week are you working? How many hours? Walk us through your dayto-day. >> Oh man. Well, it's a 24/7 job. This is not like a like a lot of people I I dream one day to work like a for real. In my mind, like I haven't worked personally with for real, but I know people that have and they say, "Yo, For real, go to studio 3 pm. >> By 900 pm, if it ain't done, it ain't done. I'm out. I'm going to my kids." That ain't how it work now. For real. He up. But that ain't how it work for me. This [ __ ] is a 24/7 job. And I'm just super over obsessive. I'm a Virgo. So my mind just goes 24/7. It's hard for me to cut cut it off. Like when I'm not in the studio, I'm watching y'all podcast, picking up game. I'm watching another podcast. I'm watching documentaries. I'm watching this. And I'm an executive, too. So, a lot of people don't know I worked for Atlantic Records for 4 years. And I did Empire, I think, for 3 years. And now I'm at another I'm in another building right now, which I won't even say cuz I like to do the work. You know what I'm saying? I think a lot of people they go and they no, I'm at this company and this that and the third, but who you sign? who what what influence do you have inside the building for you to be able to do that? I think a lot of people just take the check and just following the algorithm. So y'all will see later in in this year and actually I'mma say it cuz y'all know these people. Salute to Gilly and Wallow. I um did their label deal at Epic Records for his daughter New York LA. So that's one of the deals that I did. Salute to Gilly, Wallow, Nyla, Zeke, and everybody over there at Jin at Epic. And that that's who I work with now. I'm with Epic Records. >> Congratulations. >> Thanks, brother. >> All right, let's get into it. Let's get it. >> So, last week we had we had something that just went went tsunami on the internet. You know, it wasn't. You never really know when these things are going to go viral like this, but >> never y'all knew. Y'all knew. Y'all knew. >> I didn't know it was going to be. >> Y'all knew. >> I didn't think it was going to be that though. >> Not as crazy as it went, but it definitely it's definitely it kicked up some dust. And you want to know what's so funny about it? Um before Bow I went and responded in academics comments, he hit me and was like, "Bro, I just went go look at academics comments. I just went crazy." I'm like, when I went and looked, I'm like, "Uhoh, >> they going to fry your ass up for real." >> But you know what I'm saying? >> Why Why he do that? Why Why he do that, man? >> Yeah, that was corny. Shout out to Sh. But that was corny. >> That was it was it was unneeded. It wasn't needed. I think it's a trigger for men when they hear certain things like that because of the climate of what's really going on right now. It's not just elite women like a Aisha Diaz that has this type of um narrative for their dating life or whatever. I think it expands. She'll say it and it'll trickle down and trickle down and trickle down to someone who not even in this lifestyle is not a woman of the night and not a sex worker or none of that stuff or whatever. And they'll adopt that same mentality. And I think it puts pressure on actual men that don't have money like how I got money. That's why SC [ __ ] is scamming to go throw that money inside Starless. [ __ ] selling drugs. [ __ ] taking penitentiary chances to go give their money to a woman that they selling them a fantasy. So it get crazy outside right now, bro. Like you really go to jail for trying to go throw money at Shorty [ __ ] birthday at Starbucks. Like that's insane, bro. >> So I mean what's your thought? What's your thoughts on on what she said? What's your thoughts on what she said? >> One, um, I think she's gorgeous. I think she might be one of the most beautiful women, you know what I'm saying, that I've seen in a long time. And salute to her. >> I think Sniper here. See, he came with the charm. >> No, I think I think >> I'm from Midwest. I know. You know me. Go ahead. >> I think she got a lot of game cuz look, think about it, guys. She used y'all platform in that moment and just basically sent out her dating resume to everybody and allowed people to see it. Cuz in reality, if she had a current man giving her 50 grand, you will be not be on no [ __ ] podcast. If you can't work and I'm giving you 50 grand, you definitely can't get on no podcast and tell me and tell people what it take for me to entertain you the way I'm entertaining you right now. >> Or it may be ending and she trying to >> Oh, but I mean, she she let you know. I don't Well, I don't respect the thought process cuz she let you know she's going into a relationship with an exit plan in mind. >> Yeah. >> So, it's it's insane. Like, how are we starting a relationship telling me that if this goes bad, then you need to be taken care of? That's not a real relationship. That's kind of like something that's it's it's sounds like sex work, like transactional to me. >> Can I have my two cents on this? >> Of course. Fire away. Because obviously like okay here's my thoughts on this right it wasn't as crazy as it sounded I think from a rational person just looking at it right she okay she's in a night life as far as you know that tender world right >> y >> so it's like the dude the dude that want her >> when you let's say you want somebody like that having a girlfriend that's a startend is extremely problematic >> true >> because they work all right? They they they don't have time to spend. They like recording artists. They sleep till 3:00 in the afternoon. They can't travel the weekends. They got to they got to stay and make money. So, it's like, why would I want to be with somebody that is work and then they getting hit on by every single rapper, every single NFL player, they getting gifts, they getting opportunities to get flown out left and right. So, hypothetically speaking, if you were that person that wanted to pursue that type of person, you wouldn't want them working. So I think what she was saying is like okay now the next thing would be like okay well that that's you shooting bail come on go ahead >> but then the next thing is like that that's a housewife right cuz it's like technically if I'm married and I got a housewife I don't need to give my my wife money like that because everything is taken care of she's living at home but if you dating a woman of that ilk you don't necessarily want her to live with you per se right so this is for this is >> a lot of them do though >> this is for the Nigerian soccer player This is for the Nigerian soccer players and people that's really getting you know if you $10 a month and you got a harum full of different >> but but some of them soccer players be bringing them in house make a rational you can make a rational thought process behind this right I'm not to her it when it's when it's said it sounds very much delusional and very much crazy as hell but I'm just saying from I'm just thinking about it from the outside in and I'm like okay if I was doing at and it was a 50,000 and 50,000 wasn't nothing. And I'm like, "Yo, just sit down. You're one of the baddest chicks in America." And I got three or four of you cuz you don't just have one of her. You have three at least three or four of her in different cities. >> You You start to understand how she's thinking. >> Go off. Go ahead. Cook. >> All right, brother. one I respected and let let's not let's not we just talking figuratively we not even talking about Aisha no more or whatever we just talking about in general because I got a lot of love and respect for her even though I don't know her but in reality right if you w that clip was very triggering which led me to go I work >> you know why >> but for the audience tell them why >> for the audience right just just very um respectable as a man you know cuz I could go off and say some old crazy stuff I'm not going to be the the the wild version of me or whatever. And we on our executive store, we we on a different platform right now. But in reality, right, >> it's a bad deal. Why would I want to invest and spend $50,000 a month for a for for some a woman that's been um that's had her share fair share of experiences and is 35 years old. So, if everybody else if Bowwow experienced it for free and now that's on the internet or things of that nature or other men have had you at a premium, why would I want to overly spend on that when it's a later version of you? It's a more >> experienced um vagina. It's a more Yeah. It's a more seasoned, you know what I'm saying? It's not like the not saying her because I think that that I think that that's a double I think that I don't like that for men either though, too, because men and we're hypocrites. We want a girl that ain't got a bunch of bodies, but we want her to come freak us out like a girl that got $10. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, it's like you got to pick what you want. But in reality, if she was working as a dental hygiene assistant and she said, "Yo, baby, this is too much for me. I don't want to work no more." Then I don't think anybody would say, "Yo, I'm not going to do that. I'll take you out of that for sure." But the fact of the lifestyle of the job that she works, it's almost like I'm trying to take you out of a bad spot. But you're telling me an unhealthy environment for you for the longevity of our relationship and just for you in life cuz we look up and like she said in the interview, the bottle girls turn into strippers when they don't get out the the life. And it's just like a a never- ending hamster wheel. So, if I'm a man and I'm willing to come invest in that and you have all these different other properties and things going on for yourself, I think that me just paying your bills should be the extent of that and your own properties and the money that you've been saving for all this time that you saying you've been saving should be the money that you're able to do whatever you want to do on the side. This is a bad investment, guys. You guys, you guys talk investments 24/7. >> No, it's 100%. >> It's 100 million thousand% a bad investment. I'm just saying hypothetically there is some level of rationalization to how she was at least thinking about it. I'm not saying that that's right, but I could understand it. It it's it's something that you could at least rationalized. >> No, it ain't cuz when No, it ain't. When you when I remember you guys asked her, "What do you get out of this situation?" And she never come figurative. She never distinguished the answer. She never gave you a this is what I get. And when they don't give you an answer on that, that lets you know that they value um vagina and and and the actual sexual aspect part and they feel like that is the end all be all of it. Like I'm sharing myself with you and no one else has access to me. So that's why that value is that high. Now to me, I rather go give 20 women $2500 a month and then see where it fall out than it just to invest into just one situation. >> One person. Yeah. Yeah. And truth. Okay. Is it cheaper to build a roster opposed just having one? Cuz if we going to be real, it don't take that to get that done. Like Aisha, friend of the show, love you dearly. We going to talk outside of her. Anytime a woman tells you that it take that much to maintain her, she really don't [ __ ] with you. >> But guess what guys, guess what guys? Like hitmaker, you said something that was extremely insightful. >> Mhm. >> That that was a ad. She what she did on on the show was a ad. Best believe there's at least 20 qualified leads in her DM offering and some has probably just sent the 10,000 through cash app just broit. The deposit has already deposited for sure. >> The deposit is crazy >> for sure. She probably off that episode she got 30 >> at least. But to me, like she said though, it's actually if you if I I encourage everybody to go actually watch our interview in in its entirety because it's actually a sad lifestyle. She said that she has zero feelings left. She doesn't see long-term big picture and she ultimately just made herself a man. She's just a a [ __ ] with titties. >> Like think about it, right? Like that's how men that's how that's my mentality. What I was just saying to Shannon Sharp a couple weeks ago, like bro, like man, I've been through so much. I'm damaged goods. I don't know when is authentic love coming my way. I don't know who to trust in this situation because I'm so high value now and I didn't build with somebody from the ground up. But for her, it's almost like >> I don't know like the clock ticking. It's what they say is a new uh group of college girls graduate every year. You know what I'm saying? It's new fine [ __ ] coming. You know what I'm saying? that you might once a man get older, say she finally does get with a man that has any knowledge of the culture or anything and he's in his mid30s, late 40s, I early 40s, I think it's going to be hard for him to respect her on the level that she deserves to be respected because it's too much information out there about her. Now, if she was doing the exact same things with no information in the streets and nobody knew, then it's like whatever. You know what I'm saying? But now it's just like what what happens with those type of women that are that are that are like dating that that work in those clubs. The men are usually probably like verbally abusive to them. Like the respect level is so low because you'll do anything for money. >> You hit on a good point as a man. At what point if you could do it over again, >> what age would you pick with someone? because you can make so much money where it's like if you deal with anybody new, >> you do have concerns about if they're there for you. If you could do it again, what age would you try and build with someone while you building your empire? >> I'm going say early 20s. You know what I'm saying? Like something like that. Mid 20s for me. But man, I ain't going to lie. I think that women sometimes when you on a real goal and you don't have a like-minded woman that's chasing the same type of energy with you, it lends it to be a distraction and you end up having regret about not pursuing your dreams to the maximum point because >> you were spending time or you had that child and and and the child the woman weaponized the child and now it was just a bunch of just trauma from the situation that led you away from the ultimate goal which is to be a provider for whoever you're dealing with in that type of capacity. So, I think I'm going to be I'm waiting on the robots, gang. For real. For real. >> Robots. >> Wait, what? >> What? >> I think I think Elon going to bring the robots, gang. Like, for real. For real. And I don't know. You try I I >> So, you lost hope. You You lost hope. You You lost hope in in finding the one. >> Yeah. To a certain extent. Or I'm just going to um >> Well, we're going to have to change. Well, I'm going to have to change as a man. I'm going to have to not What made you lose hope? Is it is it you or is it them? Meaning, okay, is it that you've been exposed to so much that you become desensitized and no matter what a woman does for you, you can't fully appreciate it? >> Or is it because you've seen >> so much in negative in in the industry as far as women that you don't value women in the same regard, it's hard for you to trust a woman in general? >> Both. And then the the biggest one is that I'm older now. So everything that I was supposed to really enjoy a woman doing for me, the smaller things, the the household things, the womanly type things, I've survived so long doing them for myself. And I've created an infrastructure to where I don't really appreciate what a woman could bring to the table for me cuz I have a maid, I have a chef, I have this, I have assistants, I have other women that handle different things for me. So when a woman comes as her natural self and tries to express to me and say, "Yo, I'm here for you. This is what I would like to do for you." It doesn't really come across to me as as valuable as it should because I replaced that position with other things while I was on my journey. You know what I'm saying? And creating my own assets. So I mean only I don't have any children. So to me um what a woman can get to me is is is a child, you know, and I respect a woman for that. And I think that's going to trump anything. But when it comes to like smaller things, I really don't need no help. >> What about a woman's What about a woman's counsel? >> Like just to have a >> I don't I don't I don't tell women my problems or counsel. I hire a therapist. >> Oh, tell us why though. Some people may say it's toxic, but I feel you. But tell us why. Now, there's not been a moment in my life to where I've been overly expressive about bad moments and down things that have happened in my life to where it hasn't been weaponized to me when a woman's been in her feelings and hasn't been feeling greatly about me. So, it puts you at a point to where you don't want to be expressive about anything because we're so built up as men to be masculine and not really let our guard down when we should be able to tell our partner, significant other. But we've seen that just in the era we living in right now that women weaponize your own trauma and then it it it it shut it shuts you down even more when you actually are vulnerable to do it and it's thrown back in your face to where it's like man I don't even want to go that route that pain. >> No, not at all. And that and they know like when when men say man this girl know me. She know where to hit me where it hurts. That's all they really meant. >> She know all the skeleton. She know all the bodies at. so she can go and say, "Yo, well, you're you're not this or you're not that." And it might be your most vulnerable moment to even say something and it gets weaponized. >> Are there any changes that you feel like you need to make as a man in order to be able to be open to receiving that person in relationship or >> I got to I got to change completely, but I think I got to reprogram my algorithm. Every time I open Instagram is nothing but women. It's it's m it's horny time. Every time I got to get off social media, I got to do that. Like just being honest with you. And then the access that we have. So if I go like when I did that Shannon interview and I'm sure when this interview comes out some women are going to watch it and they're going to say I want to they're going to say I can do everything that you thought that it was. >> I can heal you. Yeah. Y >> it's the it's the same postcard Aisha sent out last week gang. So you know what I'm saying? So it's it's kind of like the gift and the curse of the whole situation. But I think that me personally I would probably have to settle. >> When you say settle what do you mean settle? um a least attractive a less attractive woman that I actually probably would want, but someone that has all the qualities and morals and characters that will allow me to really enjoy her like that. But in this industry we're in, it's kind of like um it's kind of embarrassing when you walk in with a lesser than than a high value woman and in a room full of men with those type of women that you've seen been able to do that. So if like your girlfriend is not your the the woman you decide to deal with is not as attractive as the rest or you know it's not explainable, it's not as presentable, it kind of puts you at a disadvantage for real. >> Yeah. You say you saying you saying some real [ __ ] You saying [ __ ] that nobody ever really >> ever wants to say. You saying the [ __ ] that nobody wants to say publicly, but you saying some real [ __ ] That's that's pretty insightful what you just said. Explain. So you from a ego standpoint, you have to have a certain a certain caliber of just from a physical attraction look standpoint >> to even feel on par with your counterparts. >> Yeah. Um because I think that in relationships and nobody wants to really be honest about it. The reason why a woman that would deal with me and me us being so busy and having so much to do and during the day, it's the cat and mouse game. It's always going to be a chase. You know what I'm saying? You have to keep the relationship to where you want to overly like your woman your woman. That's why women date men like us. You know what I'm saying? Like they know we ain't really like the model man. You know what I'm saying? But women desire other men that other women want. >> How we catching shot? >> Go ahead. Don't no woman want no man that don't know other women want >> any it could be at at FedEx. It could be Josh at FedEx FedEx. All the other workers own them. Not the guy that actually the standup guy that that might do right by them or whatever. We're attracted to things that we can't have. So when I'm dating a woman and I don't have time for and I'm in the studio, she'll probably resonate on different things like, man, I got other men that are successful and rich too that'll drop everything to come see me. He's so focused on his career and >> his craft >> and it it's a mind [ __ ] to the whole situation and it keeps the relationship going and going and keeps it spicy. I think when you lay all the cards out on the table, it's over. >> Over. >> Why do you think that is? >> Every time I've shown up in the purest form of what I think a woman would want from me, it has never been respected. >> Well, what's that? Was that what >> Clip that up? Was that was that the type of women that you've been attracting though? Cuz it sounds like you've been attracting which I'm not cuz I completely I understand it, trust me. But you're you're attracting um beautiful women that are u some level of materialistic that might have some level of shallow insecurities, different things that nature like. So may that might that have been the type of woman that you have attracted? >> Yeah, true. But what you want to do? Take all this [ __ ] off? >> No. when my life is on a I'm a celebrity. It'll be different if I was a regular guy and I was in the streets getting money. Like you can't downplay it. If I pull up as hit maker knowing I got a Ferrari, a Cybert truck, a Rolls-Royce, and a McLaren, but I go >> I go rent a Honda or something like that. I go get a rental car and pull up on a girl. She's still not going to be able to accept me at that at that lower level cuz it's on the internet. >> But you're not seeing her. cuz I had to look at I had to even look at my life at a certain point in time where I was attracting the same people over and over and over again. >> Yeah. >> And Larry, you're married, right? >> No. >> Oh, okay. Thank you. Keep going. >> Don't start no rumors. >> Cuz you Yo, I've seen it, my brother. I' I've seen invest fest. I've been in some of these. I remember seeing y'all. I was at the um I don't know if it was the Waldolf at Atlanta when y'all was doing that vest. You're attracting the same type of women. You You just in all silk. You ain't got a bunch of jewelry on. You got a nice watch. >> Hello, silk outfit. But them same women are in the same spot. I'm there at the hotel with you. >> And and to another point why he keeps shooting. >> No, but what I'm saying what I'm saying is that there are a lot of good women that's coming into your life. You're just not looking at them. Like there's a lot of >> There's a lot of people that might not be all right. They might not have a lot of followers on social media. They might not be a 10 or a nine, but in in the grand scheme of life, they might be a great person that could help you build, that's going to be a solid mother. That's But it's like you can't even see them. >> Okay. >> But real quick, this is in 2010 though for real. Like like what kind Instagram got you a [ __ ] Like a lot of even the good girls are conforming >> Burke to the point like >> Aisha said 40 to 50 to some girls working in corporate that number may be six to seven grand or 10 grand or can I have 2500 extra the culture has shifted >> for sure even the good women are kind of operating off of the what can you do for me model as well. So it's not just like we're we're [ __ ] with the girls in the night life only and then we're leaving all the good women alone. They're adopting some of their principles. >> Most definitely. I met a girl recently. I'm not even going to lie. She's a beautiful woman. I think she has 3,000 followers on Instagram. Met her very, very nice girl. Works in corporate, does all these different things. And then when you look at her Instagram, I'm talking to her and she's like telling me about her life and stuff like that. And I look at her Instagram and the pin photo, the first photo on it is her dropping in her ass, like ass first, like looking over this like that. This woman works in corporate. She's a nice woman. But look, this what she told me. I asked her. I said, "Yo, um, why are you doing this if you're such a nice woman?" She like, "This is my only release. This is my moment to have women hype me up to get attention. I didn't grow up. I grew up as a ugly duckling. I just really got into my looks. I kind of just just filled out as a woman, but this is where I get that energy, them endorphins or whatever releases it happens with that type of praise." And I'm like, "Yo, but it's it's it's I don't respect that because that would be the equivalent of um of us as as men." Like, say we popped out, right, and I hated your outfit. I'm going tell you that outfit weak, gang. Like, you might want to go switch it up. Them shoes don't match that shirt, bro. That's a different blue than the blue in your shoes. In your shirt. Women have an al um opportunity to hype girls up. They call it hyping them up. Yeah, girl. You doing that? When they know in their mind that they not really >> sneak dissing like crazy. Yeah. >> The compliment be the disc. Yep. >> It's the blind leading the blind. So this girl, I think I saw her, I'm like, "Yo, this might she might have potential. She's she's she's at the right age. She has the right things going on. She got a corporate job, but she still lust and wants after what the girls the other girls." Yeah, they got the Turks with the clear boat photo pen. It's like, >> and look, here go the most the worst part about it. Now men are getting hip. It's too much information. It was a moment when we was all kind of like stupid too. You know what I'm saying? Like because vagina had such a high value on it. I remember like you would wait for to to get some. You know what I'm saying? You a quarter woman. You do that. Now women so liberated girl tell you she want to [ __ ] you off the rip. Women slide in my DM [ __ ] first. >> Hello. >> You ain't never li It's like damn. I can't even fantasize it cuz you >> and these regular women though. It's not even like a a hot a you know what I'm saying? Night life shorty. >> So it's all like a it's a nasty nasty nasty environment >> cycle man. That's why you not married, you marrying? >> Nope. >> Yeah. That's why you three successful men on on a podcast right now that aren't married. >> But I did ask Aisha about the exit plan. And I do think about the exit because what's the exit as far as nobody wants to be 50 years old single. Nobody wants to be 60 years old. Nobody wants to be 60 years old still still trying to figure it out talking to this girl. >> That's not really sustainable long term. >> True. >> Or fulfilling. >> Or fulfilling. >> I mean, yeah. You see Leonardo DiCaprio going crazy. >> It's sustainable. I mean, what's your budget? What is your budget? Like Aisha said, what's the budget, gang? That's going to let you know how sustainable. >> Oh my god. Well, if you pick two tech, two index, 50,000 a month into the market, 11 million in 10 years. So, if if you frontload it and for 10 years on the back end, you have a lot of fun if you that's your game. You know what I mean? And that's a conservative 12%. I ain't >> And this is the craziest part. I don't know if y'all had children, but I was just talking to one of my OGs yesterday. I'm just like, man, like I really want to have a kid. Like, I'm I'm approaching 40. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to be like 60s something when my kid is, you know what I'm saying? late 60s when my kid is 18 or whatever. I still want to be mobile. I still want to be able to be in a mix like that and [ __ ] told me no. >> Figured out later. >> Having a kid figure having a kid later? >> No. >> Yes. >> All right. So, I have a son. So, my son is 15. >> Yeah. >> And I'm not with his mom anymore. But I will say this. I It It's enjoyable. You You have You're correct. It's enjoyable to have youth and still be have the energy to spend with your kid. >> Yes. >> I I can't speak on what it is to be 60 cuz I feel like even even our rappers now like they're 55 and they don't how 50 looked to us is not the same. >> It's different. It's different. You know what I'm saying? Like 50 now is like how 35 used to be back in the day. So maybe 60 at some point will feel that same way. I'm not sure. But I think it's definitely important to um not wait too long to have kids because it is you want to enjoy the moments. You do want to, you know, be able to relate to the music that they listening to and not feel too far of an age gap. >> Um so that that would be my two cents on it. >> Yeah, it's one of the greatest joys. Like it's very important to be with someone or pick someone that that bond is going to be strong and that that moral character part is really strong. But yeah, I would say I had to end at 33. >> How old would that woman be to you guys for me right now as a 39 year old man? What do you think the ideal age range for that woman that you think has those morals and things going on that also has an Instagram and a social profile? Where do I where do I start? What age? There's two ways that you could look at this. You could look at the the the younger demographic like 27, 28 >> that's old. Cuz how I look at it is like anything younger than 25, you're still a kid mentally, >> right? For sure. >> Once you get the on the other side of 25, a woman, she starts to mature and she starts to think about life. She starts to think about being a wife, being a mother, you know, having a house. It's like you start to mature, but you're still young enough where you haven't necessarily maybe been corrupted. >> Mhm. >> Now, you could do the older over the 30. >> What age again? >> 20 27. >> You think? >> I know some 27 28 year old killers. >> Wow. >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 100%. >> High moral character. High moral character. >> It's also a geographic thing, too. You playing in the cities >> of New York. Uh Miami. Um so I got LA Chitland Circuit. I basically got to go. >> Bro, you got to go back to Oak Park. You got to go back to Oak Park. >> No, no. No, no, no. International play too. >> For sure. >> Don't Don't discredit the international play. And not necessarily even something crazy like Toronto, Canada. >> Right. Like >> the things they out there too. >> Melbourne, Australia. Like you could get the international play where they not totally corrupted from America. America hasn't totally inundated their mind, but they're still aware. Now you could do the over 30. The over 30 play is a little tricky because over 30 >> now they definitely locked in. They serious, but they've been they've gone through some [ __ ] They might already they might already had a a bad relationship. They they was engaged twice. >> Um they might you know what I'm saying? Like, so now you got to deal with past trauma >> that's happened >> and sins you didn't Yeah. things you didn't call 27 or 31. >> Yeah. I think you're basically saying if I want to date a woman in America that I might have to get like at least like I just explained to you, I might have to settle. I might have to get a lesser attractive woman that I don't want to parade around this that and the third and put her in my house and have a baby. And that's that's what you're saying like that. That's pretty much >> or you can hit the international. >> I think occupation is a big thing >> for sure. Um >> you're looking at cuz these these girls that you meeting they they don't even have an occupation. Nine times out of 10 their occupation is to find somebody. >> True. >> This this the nurses even though nurses can be problematic as well. >> That would be the one to stay away from off the top. >> The nurse ain't I thought the nurse was like the retired hoe like that was working in night life and then they go be nurses after that. Yo, I seen Yo, it it bug me out. Like I seen a girl that worked in nightife about she going to pull up and do your veneers for you. I seen all type of Yo, every girl is a real estate agent now, too. It make me like, yo, like this the the entry level is too crazy right now. Anybody could be in >> I was going to say there are some careers you got to stay away from too. >> I seen a girl at night talk about she gonna do your braces. She'll pull up and give you braces at your house. International the best best get best bad international >> international >> international play international play >> with good family structure and good morals that relationship with the parents and the dad >> matters a lot. >> Would you would you recommend or or could I would you do a surrogate and just have your staff of women take care and love the the child >> and and you you be the primary like you have full right to the kid. >> Mhm. So, a surrogate could could be actually something that is beneficial because you don't want to have a kid with somebody that you're not married with. That that that would be my advice. And that's >> that's even scarier though. You getting married on paper. >> Yeah. You don't believe in anything. You don't believe in anything. You don't believe in nothing. You don't believe in nothing. >> I'm not getting I'm not believe the prenup. >> I've seen people go crazy out the prenup. I'm going introduce something y'all that y'all might never heard. You ever heard of the baby nut? Yeah. Yep. >> Cuz my lawyer approached me with that too as well. You know what I'm saying? Like where you can set out the outlines of how you want to hide this baby and you can do it in court. It's almost like putting yourself on paper. You know what I'm saying? Prehand before the baby is had. You get to X out all the terms of how you want to handle the situation, what you're willing to pay for. You outline the money and everything before you even had a child. >> Yep. >> So you So you you're anti-marriage, >> just not on paper. I'm anti you being able to take half of my life the work and and and meet me at 40 years old right now and then think you're entitled to half of whatever I done. I'm anti that. >> No, but you do the ring and the ceremony, just not the paperwork. >> For sure. I want to make a woman happy. I just don't want to cry about it if we if her feelings makes her decide she don't want to be with me no more. But I'm very transparent. >> Are you capable of monogamy? >> No. Never. >> I'm capable. It's hilarious, man. This car west vibes all day. Hey, we going to keep it real. It is what it is. >> Love and respect is always going to be the leading factor in every relationship that I deal with. So, I'mma love and respect you enough to not be moving out here reckless. I'm not going to be on shade room and ball alert or this that and the third. >> But let's just be realist, right? If you meet me and I become your man and we have a and you notice that I want to have sex four times a day and then half of my year is spent without you, how honest and and and realistic are we being saying that I'm not going to, you know, tap into a different frequency while I'm gone for you half day. >> A different frequency. Hold on. Well, how many on the roster? Like if you building the roster then how many is is spot. >> I don't think I would be overly expressive if I had a woman that I was really to entertaining oneonone. I have entertained the idea of like a um poly thing like how Aisha did. But I just think that having um >> man that's that seems problematic too. You know what I'm saying? Because women are very um competitive territory. Yeah. >> They're very very very even it comes back to the music business. Think about it right. That's why all the girls project that they're a girl girl and girls girl this and that and the third because it's so >> competitive. It's so territorial. Everybody wants the number one spot. I just think that's in a woman's nature to want to be the main chick. I don't think that no woman comes into a relationship saying, "Okay, well maybe a woman with trauma that's dealt with a lot of different things." Like for sure >> a woman of the night I think that would be able to be like, you know what, I get in where I fit in cuz ultimately I'm just looking for some some type of protection and providing on your end, but I don't see that as like a long-term thing. I used to Everybody wanted to be Taz Angels at one point. Come on. Like for real. Shout out to Taz Angels. They on a new they on a new single. They they doing a they talking on this hook part of Dream Doll. New single that's about to come out or whatever. And I did the record. So shout out to them. I still I >> They had a crazy run too back in the day. >> What? That run was epic. I They got a whole documentary on on YouTube. It's like two hours long. It's a movie. >> They got a resurgence now. They've been going crazy. >> No, they about to

come back in a different way. I like I like how she talking. She She talking cat talking like how I want to hear it, but I don't know how realistic it is. He said, "Uh, if you really love your [ __ ] share your nigga." Like, why you why you yo, share your [ __ ] Yo, if this [ __ ] really all that, share your [ __ ] Like, why you want?

>> But this is what's happening, gang. Like, there's Look, respectfully, there's a woman right now who's >> This might be my favorite episode. I ain't >> there's a woman whose whole closet is full of Sheen and Fashion Nova. no Chanel, no uh expensive stuff, but and and a and a a bad wig, but she ultimately thinks she's deserving of what that young lady said yesterday. I mean, last week on y'all podcast, it's trickled down to the hood, bro. I seen this with my own eyes.

>> It's not just highlevel fine [ __ ] no more. So now it's just like >> in every city, too. >> Everyone. >> Every city. >> Everyone. So I don't It's just us three being on it on this talk right now. Like I don't think we've even figured out how to navigate. Y'all basically said, "Bro, just go grab you something from overseas that don't nobody know that you bringing back here fresh >> with a good family." That's really important.

>> Facts. And look, this the bigger thing, too. That's what I like about the overseas play because like in America and just with a lot of girls that that are that that are more attractive here, um, too many [ __ ] been tricked on them already. Why would I want to go and buy a Chanel bag for a girl that got 70 Chanel bags? They're not even going to appreciate this Chanel bag. You know what I'm saying? That I'm doing. It's going to be like, well, if you did it, then somebody if you didn't do it, somebody else was going to do it for me. Now, if you get a girl that ain't been to Dubai, that ain't been to Paris, that ain't been to London, [ __ ] ain't been to Cancun even. You know what I'm saying? You even you able to have some real you able to have some real moments with this woman. And not only that, I'm more >> and even even if they never been, you got to space out how often you take them to. And I'mma trick on you more than the woman that's been everywhere because it feels like this is your first. You're gonna actually resonate and remember this instead of it being, oh, you've been a Turkey. I went like four times last year. Like, you know, Drake took me to Turks like the [ __ ]

>> That's a lot of Grace Bay vibes. For sure. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

>> Can I ask y'all a question? Cuz I think this is the biggest um thing for me. Would would you be comfortable selling down with a woman that someone else in y'all field has already had before you?

>> Couldn't do it. >> See, and here we are. >> Couldn't do it. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Why? Why though? My boo and >> Yeah. >> ego. Ego. It's our ego.

>> Yeah. Uhuh. Couldn't do it. >> Yeah. >> And then you got to walk into the the wards and [ __ ] and they there. And >> I mean that goes back to me. I mean 25 years ago I'm old school. Like even I don't want to mess even from somebody from my town. Like if I I don't want in high school I didn't want nobody like I never >> especially if they a bum. >> I never you used to [ __ ] with bum ass him for don't don't say nothing to me. Don't don't say nothing to me.

>> And that's the point and that and that's why Bowwow jumped in them comments and said exactly what he said.

>> True. >> Cuz you triggered by that. You know what I'm saying? Once you find out that information it's like wait what? Huh? Huh? and you cut all things. Now, I wouldn't have said it publicly. He could have sent her a DM like, "Yeah, you know, I got to the bottom of that for free. Thank you for the uh play." But, you know what I'm saying? But

>> it's kind of like it is it. So, so basically what we come away from this is that we're in our own way.

>> No, 100%. It's the It's No, >> it it it's I think I think um you brought up a good point where you said tying it back in where you said like I'm paraphrasing.

>> You've been jaded by just experiences and [ __ ] like that. It makes it hard for you, right? And >> that's the that's the gift. That's the the the curse of a of of a gift. Sometimes your gift can actually be your curse as well. It's like you get exposed so much and and it it ruins you as the guy that just, you know, is just went to college and just met his sweetheart and they they really appreciate he really appreciates everything because he never was exposed to everything. He wasn't exposed to, you know, being able to just do whatever he wanted at any given time and going to Paris and then, you know, being in Mexico one day and then having, you know, >> like it's some in some regards it's a gift, >> but in some regards it's a curs.

>> Organically it's a curse. I tell one of my friends back home like he married his high school sweetheart. He's like, "Bro, but you be having so much fun." I'm like, >> "You got a pure girl who love you. Y'all of course had whatever issues, but y'all been through and through since y'all was 16. That's beautiful.

>> That's beautiful. You don't have to hear about your girl and running around. >> It's a blessing for those who fell in love early. >> I'm envious of that for sure. For sure. But then again, it's like I don't know. I don't know if we would be who we are right now without having the experiences that we had. I don't think we'll be in this seat and in these positions having it. So, if you could ask me, um, like I ain't changing nothing cuz I'm going to be honest.

>> Is that the problem, though? Well, you you you you are who you are and they got you to where you are. So, you can't you can't change it. You can't change it.

>> Women don't uh want men that are broke, gang. Like, we not even talk about it's so many different platforms that we could talk about Kevin Samuels, Kendra G. Do y'all watch them little joints like these regular people that think the way that they think that a man supposed to make 300, 250? I what the academics the little girl the girl like 18 years old the streamer she say if you don't make a m a year here she can't even rock with you she 18 yeah

>> so it's kind of like to me it's like

>> I want to change but then I feel like if I change and I make those sacrifices and it slows up any part of my career for changing for somebody then I'm going to regret it at the on the grand scheme of things

>> but Shannon just told you if he can do it over again he would have found someone earlier so Does seeing him and having an interview with you change your perspective or is it a fear of being heartbroken again?

>> Um, no. I just think that Shannon is just what's Shannon in 60s right now.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's what you're talking.

>> So yeah, like if you in your 60s and you went through um respectfully what he went through, I think that that would be your tune at 60 years old. You know what I'm saying? But but I mean if we I guarantee if he took if none of that um trials and tribulations he probably went through I think his answer probably would have been different too.

>> That's a good point. I didn't think about that.

>> That's a fact. >> He's speaking from an elevated level. We all speaking from a high level. You know what I'm saying? So it's not really like like he can he can talk in hindsight after he's up 100 M's. Everything in hindsight looks you know what I'm saying? You up 100 M. It's like you won the game of life like you know what I'm saying now. and and and and Ed, shout out to But let's be honest, he he hasn't done it yet. He could do it now.

>> He hasn't done it. >> Go get Cheyenne Bryant. He planned he need to go back.

>> That is funny. Good point though. Good point.

>> Oh, my brother, man. Hitmaker, man.

>> We're just three black men who trying to find answers out.

>> Yo, on a business note, because like I said, you are one of the greatest uh producers of all time. Yo, I need you at Investfest this year, man.

>> That's cool. >> Set it up. You see Ian hit me off the rip. I'm here, bro. Like, I It ain't hard with me. He got my direct number. I'll be there, bro. Like, I And I just want to be around at Investfest to see how you handle yourself around these these young women that are going to >> talk about it. These beautiful entrepreneurs. And you can meet the love of your life at Investfest. Oh,

>> that's where that's where that's where you got that's the we for the love of Hitmaker at Investf Fest this year 2026.

>> That's it. Kendrick G. I'mma get Kendra G involved.

>> That's tough. Have a nice charted charted accountant. A nice charted accountant.

>> Please, man. I'm ready. >> Aka,

>> take me out the streets, babe. Where she at? I'm trying to get out the streets. Take me out, baby. Hope you watching right now. this elite.

>> Before Before before we go, I got to ask a hip-hop question cuz we had this conversation earlier in the show. Do you look at um JCole and and the clips as southern hip-hop artist? Cuz I don't.

>> Why? If they're from the south.

>> You know, growing up, just being from the Midwest, I never considered the Carolinas as the South or Virginia as the South. I always felt like it was more East Coast to me.

>> It didn't really give me like south. I think that when you when I think of South, I think of um Atlanta. I don't even consider like Memphis the South. Like it's still

>> It is. But it's like the old like old Memphis or Moneybag Yo yo Gotti cuz they

>> old Memphis for sure the South. You know what I'm saying? But I'm just saying geographically, I never really looked at it like that. I always considered the South more so like Texas, Atlanta, Florida. You know what I'm saying? Like anything deeper than Atlanta type [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? Arkansas, all that. Louis, Louisiana,

>> Louisiana, Booy and them. You know what I'm saying? Like that was PimpC like that was the the South to me growing up

>> cuz that's what the conversation we was talking about the best lyricist from the south. So I was, you know, we talking about TI and Rick Ross and Scarface and Ian had brought up JCole and Push A T and I'm like

>> I Yes. If you if you're just saying just by geographic geography,

>> I can't say that

>> stylistically they're not.

>> They have nothing nothing no southern influence at all as far as like when you like I mean like to say that they're the they're the best lyricist from the south. That's kind of difficult to say that.

>> Who did y'all land owners y'all say was the best one?

>> Ti Rick Ross. Little Wayne 3000.

>> Andre 3000. But 3000 from Atlanta, but he don't rap like he from Georgia.

>> Right. Right. He got a different

>> Yeah. Big Boy, if you go to Columbia, Big Boy didn't either.

>> True. >> Yeah.

>> I think that they they they was

>> they were both East Coast influenced

>> No, no, no, no, no. I wouldn't say that cuz early out they was very much they was very No disrespect when I say they very country. Outcast is very country.

>> Players early outcast. Yeah. Players ball. Once it got to the later time, they was experiencing with different sound. Bombs over Baghdad. I wouldn't consider that a South record. You know what I'm saying?

>> That that's that cuz you're a producer. A South record. Rick Ross don't make his none of his records are really south records.

>> The first the first single was though every

>> That was a South that's a southern ego spiritual. vast majority of Rick Ross' body of work is not that's not southern a traditional southern record.

>> You can tell a lot of Biggie influence into it. You know what I'm saying? And things that he had going on to the point that he you know what I'm saying? He re repurposed Biggie's adlive the and became super iconic and known made it his thing. It's almost like uh Diamond Dallas Page doing a stone cold stunner. It's the same move. They just call it two different things. You know what I'm saying? So they got the um to me I would probably today I'm going TI man. I love what TI right now,

>> man. I ain't going to lie. I cried the other day, man. Just being transparent cuz like the love that they got for their mama and how the whole family went out to 50. That's it was it was

>> Demani smoked, bro.

>> He the one out of all.

>> Yeah, Demani tough.

>> But I just man like I I'm really um I've been around Tip. I executive producers album called the Libra Scale. We had a record called Pardon that went uh they got a plaque on it with him and Little Baby. I got to spend a lot of time around Tip in that era. And man, yo, like I'm just I'm just proud of him as a man. Like, yo, like what he did and for them kids and how he raised them and being who he is is just a true definition on like some real hip. That's real hip-hop. That's real culture to me. You could real be still be a man, still be respected in the streets, still keep your morals integrity, right? And then not only that, your kids are even hot. Like that's fire.

>> Yeah. Who are two or three artists that you thought would have been like mega stars or blown up, but they end up being underrated and didn't cross to that other level?

>> Oh, damn. Uh

>> h mega stars and would have blown up. I don't want to say rephrase that question because that's going to go viral. That's going to be clipped up.

>> Who Who are some underrated artists? Yeah. Of all time. M underrated artist of all time. On an R&B level, I would probably say to me, Joe is one of my favorite R&B artist. I think he don't get the credit that he deserve. He's super underrated. I think that um

>> as a producer, I'm that's R&B as a producer, underrated producer to me. Uh high-tech. A lot of people don't understand his music quality, all that stuff that they was doing. Like, bro, his beats like that beat he did on that Gunit out like bro, he his whole town like he don't get enough love. He ain't spoken about enough to me. And then as a rapper, I would probably say um I would say Bow Wow is very underrated as a rapper, you know, and don't get the credits that he really deserves or whatever. Cuz I think that um

>> even when you look at this [ __ ] like how they going on tour with B2K and all this other stuff, like a lot of people could write it off, but it's still very cultural for people and they selling out arenas. Like who would think that 20 years later that they would still be selling out arenas and [ __ ] like that or whatever just with all that they went through and the [ __ ] loving hip hops and [ __ ] like that everything that everybody been through like just to see them doing that [ __ ] right now man salute to them I think also Jeremiah is a very underrated um artist

>> that [ __ ] got one of the best voices is Penn is great

>> that's a fact

>> yes sir

>> all right my brother I appreciate you appreciate it Man, that was funny, man. I appreciate it, man. Great insight.

>> Love, bro. I'll see y'all at Investfest.

>> All right, bro. >> Appreciate you, my

>> man. That was a good one. >> That was a good one. Screen, I got you.

>> Wow. Insightful. This probably one of my favorite episodes. Aisha, friend of the show. Aisha, you need to come co-host a couple shows. come back a month straight. Got you. But spirit of conversation with with Hitmaker. Oh man.

>> Shout out to Hitmaker, man.

>> Mhm. I appreciate him for being vulnerable though about

>> love at uh investfest. Man, this fest going to be crazy.

>> Yeah, it's gonna be insane, bro. I ain't going to lie.

>> I think I know where I want to place him, too. I got a good good person for him to be on the panel with.

>> Okay. >> I'll tell I'll tell you off camera. Okay. Okay. For for the other men struggling with love, what are things that we need to work on collectively to be able to be able to receive the love that we want to receive? For sure.

>> The best thing you could do is advise your your your young son to find the love early cuz the longer you wait, the more jaded you get. And he spoke about that. I think um him maker spoke about that as far as like you know he's in a he's in a different type of space right now where he might not even be able to receive love like even if the perfect person came into his life perfect woman came into his life

>> he might not even be able to receive it because past trauma um you know just the his point of like his mindset won't even let him receive it right now.

>> Yeah. Yep. >> Better to get it early.

>> And a lot of you Red Pillars be saying that [ __ ] about women, but it applies to men probably more so, too cuz everybody like, "Yo, you hit your prime, you're 50." And I'm like, "You may be washed at 50." 100%. All right, let's run through these some some titles before we um before we wrap. Uh Jeffrey Epstein um they did have the Clintons um speak in front of Congress. Uh, Bill and Hillary Clinton. I think Hillary Clinton, she she was definitely um prepared skillful wise. Bill Clinton, he was kind of all over the place. He's smiling. He his voice is so raspy, you can't even hear what he's saying. He talking about which which um which member of the uh of the um

>> Raw Child which member of the Raw Style channel are you talking about? D. He's kind of all over. Bill Clinton's just he's all over the place. Um, but the the lawyer is a bulldog. The lawyer is a prime example of a person protecting their client. But if you need such deep protection, there's a lot of things like there are no more conspiracy theories. Even the connection with the Rothschilds and even her deposition was very interesting. Like you said, she was sharper than Bill was. Um, and and I commend them for being willing to testify. But it did it wasn't helpful by any stretch of the imagination. And um there'll be some more things that come out in those files that are even more heartbreaking than the things that we know now.

>> So

>> yeah, I mean, yeah, it's just bad things. Everybody that was involved in that bad they did bad things, terrible things. Um but like I said, we started war with Iran and you know, that's all people want to talk about.

>> Um

>> Yep.

>> Okay. Uh, and Floyd has not announced the third fight.

>> Florida. >> No, Floyd Mayweather.

>> Oh, Floyd Mayweather. Yeah. Yeah. Floyd. Prayers up Floyd, man. Um, he's doing a I think a kickboxing ex exhibition in Thailand. So, three fights in like 6 months. Mike Tyson, the kickboxer, Manny Pacquiao. I don't know the financial situation, but this doesn't look good.

>> It's not a good It's a recession indicator. if if nothing else is a personal recession. They could play Percy Floyd, but man, this is tough. And also too, in the mint cuz I know he was in the back seat with the 20 million and all that. Cool. But you have to watch even the the promotions and those you're in partnership with like even when he announced the thing about the buildings at uh at market Mondays live, you got to watch your partner. Sometimes even this ties into the tenderism point. Sometimes corporations will use your likeness and your star power against you thinking cuz you believe that they're going to treat you well when they're using you as a pawn to bring the deal and they have a way to cut you out of the equity on the back end. Now kudos to to the lawyer who got the trademark for menism transferred it over. But what if that hadn't happened? I I fear in Floyd's case, they they say he sold 350 million and in that real estate deal allegedly uh some things may have happened there. So be careful, man. It's sharks in the water. And just because you are a kind soul doesn't mean that everybody that you are in business with is a kind soul as well.

>> Yeah, you're right. You're absolutely right. Prayers up. Prayers up. Uh man. Um what's the dumbest myth American people actually believe in? Uh that these files aren't true. I don't think there's any more conspiracy theories. Um we talked about glyphosate. We talked about the American education system. These files that the I mean the government doesn't have your best interest at heart. Um, I think the biggest one is that it's viable to stay here long term. We talked about it, but I seriously believe everyone needs to consider the exit plan. And for those of you who are in MAGA or you are a fair skin, don't hit me with the if you don't love it, leave it [ __ ] cuz y'all are leaving at the highest clip ever.

>> Facts. So, don't do that, please. But it's unsustainable for us to be in multi-year wars that we keep losing. Like, people may personally benefit from the war, but as a country and as a military force, we are losing these wars and the costs are exorbitant. Um, it was even a joke on Twitter like, "Yo, 50 years ago, you can have you can have two families off a $20 hour job and now if you're making $200,000 a year, it's hard to sustain one." It's funny, but true. Like, they've ruined the economy. It's real. People had families across town and [ __ ] nobody ever knew about. Now, if 200 if you have 200 grand, some people feel like they're struggling if you have two kids. So, I don't know if if it's sustainable to be here. The last thing I'll say before we wrap, um, some black history facts. You know, I was talking 19 keys and we was brought up an interesting point as far as so much black history, black culture has been erased and they only, you know, whenever you think of like any black culture when it comes to America, it's >> slavery or civil rights movement. Um, but there's so much stuff that that you like nobody really even takes about like there's plenty of I just found out my my grandfather was a Civil War hero. So the Civil War, stuff like that. cowboys. So, hello.

>> So, you know, I my dad gave me the book as far as the um black cowboys when I was a kid.

>> So, I was always aware there was black cowboys, but I just found something out that was interesting.

>> You know, the word cowboy,

>> that's a slur,

>> comes from Yes. So, cow boys were black people. Cow hands were white white men. They call black cow hands cow boys because they call black men boys as a racial slur. It was a derogatory name.

>> So the word the word cowboys

>> was made for black cow hands

>> specifically.

>> They said 25% of all the cow hands were black.

>> Mhm.

>> But I I knew that I knew that there was black cowboys. I knew that. But I never knew that the actual word cowboys

>> comes derogatory

>> from directly talking about black people.

>> So when you see once again John Wayne and you know Jerry Jones the Cowboys and all and it's just like you just get erased from history so much and that plays a part as far as why we say we don't have a culture as well because it's been systematically

>> erased even in America. Not even going back to Africa, in America, things like that. Like the vast majority of people have no idea and it's just been culturally appropriated and just taken and we just been wiped out of history. But I thought that was an interesting stat that um yes, the word cowboy

>> comes from black people

>> that were called cowboys and a derogatory name. 25% of all cow hands they said was black. um and had always played a part as far as what we know as cowboy culture. Um they've always that that's always been a part of black history.

>> But

>> when it got romanticized in Hollywood and it became popular, black people was completely left out of that conversation at all. And it was, you know, um, so when you think of, you know, country music, when you think of cowboys, the fashion, the hats, all of that stuff, like that's a part of our history. A found we're founding founding principles in that. Like I said, the word the word actually comes from black people.

>> Absolutely. Interesting. So it happened in jazz. Like if you look a lot of categories, it's very interesting how uh just common terms that we use are derogatory or slurs towards us. So, and also the the newest form of capitalistic racism is for the private equity companies or VCs to play like they're pro black to then destroy your company so they can then buy for pennies on a dollar

>> fact.

>> That's not the [ __ ] Now all of a sudden you was pro black and it was pro black women and the fastest group of entrepreneurs in the country and it was you got the [ __ ] games and you got the Jay-Z jersey on and all this and then when old boy get in office now it's not none of that. Now you want to destroy a company.

>> That's a fact.

>> It's crazy times we're in.

>> All right. All right y'all. It's been real. Uh I think yeah next week we going to go. You know we we offered up toxic. We just had to get a few We going to have Kirk Franklin on next week.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Next week we going to be back. We

>> somebody

>> how how to become a how to become an upstanding man in society. And we going to talk about variety of that. We got to talk about this Irish connection with Africa too. That's interesting.

>> Yes.

>> Got to really break that down. And how um

>> uh the British Empire really did the same thing that they did to Ireland.

>> That's the blueprint that they use in Africa. Um, so yeah, and they touched on it a little bit in the centers, the correlation. Oh,

>> 100% 100%. 100%. 100%. Um, all right y'all. So, it's been real tap in. Get your tickets to Investfest. Um, we got two chains tomorrow at 12:00 Eastern Standard Time. And uh, yeah, stay stay dangerous out there for real. And it's a private equity crash going on. KKR, Blackstone, Blue Owl, all are uh lower than 25%.

>> Sign of the times. Private credit market [ __ ] up, but

>> sign of the times.

>> All right, y'all. Peace.

>> Love y'all. Peace. Don't text me about the show. Love y'all. Shout to Aisha. Shout out to Goldie. Shout to Berg. Everybody. Love y'all. They