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Welcome everyone to the Citizen Voice show. Pentagon chief Pete Hexat has asked the US Army Chief of Staff. Yes, excuse me, due to some technical glitch, I had gone out, now I have returned. Pentagon chief Pete Hexat has asked US Army Chief of Staff Randy George to resign and retire immediately. No reason has been given for this dismissal. Pete Hexat has removed three senior generals from the army. General Randy George, Army Chief of Staff, Lieutenant General David Huddner, Training and Transformation Command, Major General William Green Jr., Chief of Chaplains. This is not a normal reshuffling. Even in the midst of war, this seems to be a sign of some pressure. It is highly likely that Donald Trump wants something that the US military and its generals are perhaps not ready to accept. In this program, we will discuss whether this is a ground attack? Could there be an attack on Iran's main energy bases, or even a very destructive tactical nuclear attack? We have three enlightened colleagues with us to discuss this. We have Captain Ghuman with us. We have Prafull Bhai with us, and Siddharth Ji has also joined us. A very warm welcome to Siddharth Ji, Prafull Bhai, and Captain Ghuman. Captain Ghuman, since you are related to the army, I would like to ask you this question first. In the context of the ongoing war with Iran, the removal of America's chief of civil defense from the US Army. At a time when logistics, warfare, and war planning are underway. From there, you saw how missiles and ammunition are decreasing for America and Israel. They are short of interceptors. In such a situation, removing the Chief of Staff from his post. Is this to create an atmosphere of confusion out of fear of defeat, so that defeat cannot be tolerated, or is there some other reason behind this, because the Pentagon is surprised? How justified do you consider these accusations of a purge based on loyalty at the worst of times, Captain Ghuman? This is not planning. This is pure clear frustration. Meaning, when you start something without planning and things don't go according to what you were expecting, these are its symptoms. And now everything is crystal clear that this war, when it started, it never had logic. It never had a reasoning. So this situation is evident. But before I go, I want to the world. I want the world to be reminded through your channel. Who are these three? Trump and his associates. We are not talking about others. They are the people of the absent file, meaning executioners, demons, the lowest, the meanest, as they say. I have no shame. Why do I want to remind again? It's where girls aged five to seven were raped, then they were killed, and then they were eaten. And to add to this, when they attacked, the first attack on Iran was on a girls' school. So this is the community that is leading the world towards destruction, meaning no logic, madness, madness, madness, man. Now, crystal clear, once again I am using the word crystal clear, that America has lost the war. What is the proof? They had, they always had the biggest boost, the floating armada that could wreak havoc anywhere in the world. Gerald Ford, the most expensive aircraft carrier ever built, supported by Lincoln. It was docked in one place, and the other was in the Rem Sea. What happened? They had to go back, man. When do you retreat? Retreat happens when your so-called enemy staggers, then you. So the so-called floating armada had to reduce. And before that, all their so-called bases, so-called security of this Arab world, they were reduced to ground, starting from Kuwait to Bahrain, to Saudi, to Qatar, to this. So they were on their knees. Same thing with Israel. Israel always had the idea that we are, meaning our dome is so strong that not even a bird can fly here. Now missiles are raining there at their will. So this is the situation. Coming back to the frustration, the reason for frustration is that at the Gerald Ford, it was mutiny when your soldiers declined to take up arms, and then they sabotaged their own barracks. This is what they have done. So there was a fire, or whatever happened, that they had to go for this thing. So these are clear signs of frustration. Planning going wrong. There was no planning. It was simple madness, just pure assumption that we are strong, Iran is small, we will go in today, do this tomorrow, and there will be a regime change. So they are foolish people. I have already told you. They change their minds every moment. They say something, while saying it, they are doing something else. So fools have come into power. And I say that three fools are ruining the lives of 800 crore people. The only hope is, as I heard yesterday, 35 countries are getting together to pacify Iran. And let me tell you one thing, Iran is a winner, hands down. Why? They have the Strait of Hormuz in their grip. And there is no way in the world, even if the whole world unites, they can free Iran from there. Why? I am sure all of you have seen, most of you must have seen the movie called 300. On one side, there were 300 Spartans, and on the other side, it was millions of the army. But the battlefield was like a football field. Meaning, if you have a million or ten million army, the place to fight was a football field. So here, even if the whole world sends its aircraft carriers or navy, they cannot go to the channel. The Strait. So Iran has the upper hand, both logistically and geographically, and in the will to fight, he wins who is willing to die. That is the basic fight. Any fight. Americans, this is their own injured, destruction happens, it is in front of you. At present, the situation is that almost one crore Americans are on the streets here. What is America's population? 35 crore. Calculate the percentage. That means we can say, literally, America is on the streets saying, "Brother, close this, take the other way." Iran's population is only 9 crore. And I think the same amount is on the streets supporting their regime. There is a big difference. There, they are being provoked, that they are doing wrong. Here, they are willing to die. And it is now crystal clear that America, the so-called bully, is running scared. Their biggest boast, Israel itself has said that they are short of 15,000 soldiers. They cannot even think of putting soldiers on the ground. So, meaning, this could happen. And this is the reason for frustration. And his generals, I salute these generals, they are showing him the mirror. There is no way forward. Now they are showing him the mirror. And this fool is doing it. I wish our generals were like that here. They take a cue from them. And if this continues, India will get involved forcibly. And imagine, if our 85% of our energy, as they say, Ramnagar, if Jamnagar or Bombay High is affected, then what? It's time to wake up. Hey, whatever your mistakes are, whatever your compulsions are, I am saying, face them, stand up. Okay, another thing, and this, the world favors Iran. It is a seasoned civilization. First of all, in the 1980s, they had a 10-year war with Iraq. Even then, the Western world was fully with Iraq, and they could not defeat Iran. Iran was almost operative during that period. We are fighting with a civilization that is committed. This is our land, we will protect it. So, these generals who are being targeted are purely frustrated, and this will increase further. Frustration will happen because, as they say, when their navy started, the spark, the fuse has been lit. So it is time for the world to wake up, because as he says, they will take us into a dark age. Yes, if it continues, the dark age is around the corner, no doubt. First, there were foolish people in the Second World War. Okay, communication was weak. People didn't know what was happening. Information used to come after a month. Now it is in front of us. If it is a nuclear dark age, as I said, tomorrow, do we want that? Is it because of two or three people? 800 crore people. Time to wake up, man. Time to wake up, man. Siddharth Ji, I come to you because you also keep an eye on geopolitics and have exclusive information about many things. Now the issue is that the army's logistics, training centers, ammunition, and rapidly, at lightning speed, the equations are changing day by day. And these equations are such that what Trump Sahib will say in the morning and what effect it will have in the evening. When he said that we will take Iran back to the Stone Age, it was decided that Trump Sahib has no endgame or end goal. First, he said there will be a regime change. Regime change happened. Then you said you will obliterate nuclear energy, and you claimed on June 22nd, on the 24th, that you have obliterated their nuclear installations. They cannot produce nuclear bombs or nuclear enrichment anymore, not as much as they had done. Third, you said that their ammunition programs, their missile programs, have to be destroyed. You have done that too. Then, fourth, you said that Mustafa Khamenei also has to be removed. So you came back to regime change. And on the other hand, you are saying that "We will take Iran back to the Stone Age." Because of that, they destroyed one of their bridges in Karachi. When they destroyed their bridge, Iran responds tit for tat. They said, "Now our bridge has been destroyed. Now we will destroy bridges in Saudi, Oman, Qatar, Dubai." This change in the army's top leadership, by creating such dangerous obstacles, what does it indicate? What are the changes that Pete and Trump are trying to bring to the US Army? Yes. See, in simple terms, the captain has said that I am going to win the match, but the captain alone does not win the match. He has a team. If the team is not supporting him, what can the captain do alone? The other eleven people. What happened here is that if the captain of cricket tells his team that tomorrow you have to bat like this and bowl like that, then the team will agree. But if he says, "Go and mix laxatives for the opposing team tonight," then no one will go, because they know that if I go to mix laxatives, the police will catch me, and I will be punished. My captain will not be. So what happened is that Trump, what Trump Sahib is saying, "I will send Iran back to the Stone Age," he will not drop bombs sitting in the White House. To drop bombs, you need a general or an army. So his team is not preparing for this. His team is saying, "We will not do all this work." Because in Trump's team, the matter is no longer about personal differences. It has become a matter of ideological differences. Trump and Trump's generals both take an oath to the constitution. Keep in mind, if Trump Sahib takes an oath to the American constitution, then Trump's general, or America's generals, also take an oath. They do not sit there taking an oath to Trump. They take an oath to the American constitution. And nowhere in the American constitution is it written to kill innocent civilians. Even if there is an order from above, it is not written in the American constitution to kill innocent civilians. And in the last 30 days, we have seen that Trump's army has killed innocent civilians many times while fighting in Iran. They killed the people of an IAS army, who came to Visakhapatnam without bombs, guns, or ammunition for a parade. They were killed while returning from the parade. America killed them. In a school named Minaab, they fired on 166 young girls. You drop missiles on Tehran University, on the school. You drop the Roja bridge there. You destroy the medicine factories there. So all these things happen according to the rules of war, according to the Geneva Convention, according to the recognition in the world. In war, one party can only cause loss to the other party. I think Captain Sahib will explain this. You cannot bomb civilian targets. You cannot bomb schools. You cannot bomb hospitals. You cannot bomb water. You cannot bomb electricity. And America has done all this. So even after World War II, war crimes courts were set up in Nuremberg and Tokyo. Because after these two wars, courts were set up for the war crimes that occurred. In that, Hitler and Hirohito's entire team, whether they were leaders or generals, who bombed civilians, cases were filed against all those accused, and those whose charges were proven were given the death penalty. Neither Hitler was hanged, nor Hirohito. The one who dropped the bomb was hanged. The one who made the decision to drop that bomb was hanged. So what happens is, this is called crimes against humanity, war crimes. It means you cannot commit crimes against humanity. This is international law. No matter how much power you have, it doesn't mean that a policeman has a gun, it doesn't mean that if he has a quarrel, he will start shooting on the road. The policeman having a gun is one thing, but he cannot shoot everywhere. So these war crimes, here America is seen committing war crimes. Every day, Trump Sahib tweets that I will blow up the water, and he has blown it up. He has blown up the water plant in Iran's Keshm. I will blow up the water, sometimes he says, I have destroyed the bridge, I have destroyed the bridge. All these come under war crimes. You cannot do this in any war. Trump Sahib is doing this. He is asking his generals to do it too. Now his generals are saying that you even discard those who are your own people, like your Pam Bondi, who defend you, protect you. So that is why now these four top generals of the army must be saying that we will not support you in this order. The head of counter-terrorism, Joe Kent, has already resigned and left. Tulsi Gabbard from their National Security Department, perhaps her turn is coming. Kash Patel Sahib from the FBI is likely to be next. Out of America's seven naval fleets, two, the USS Ford and the USS Lincoln, have moved 1000 kilometers away from Iran. Meaning, instead of bombing Iran, Trump's own team is breaking apart. He said he would bomb Iran. His own Trump team is breaking apart. They went to explode Iran, and America itself imploded. They went to bring about regime change in Iran. Regime change has started within them. Why did this happen? Because we know that America is fighting this war as a proxy. Israel's Prime Minister, Mr. Netanyahu, already has a war criminal case pending against him in the Netherlands. At least seven or eight countries have said that if Netanyahu comes here, we will arrest him. So Netanyahu is already declared a war criminal. You have allied with him. In the pursuit of bombing with him, you have also committed war crimes. Why was all this done? As you said, if you bombed Fardo and Natanz eight months ago, and after bombing, you said that you have sent Iran back to the Stone Age. The Iran you had sent back to the Stone Age eight months ago, you had destroyed its entire nuclear facilities, you had destroyed everything. After eight months, why do you need to fight such a big war for 30 days? What has changed? The change came in between, the file came. After the file came, the file is something from which, to escape one headache, they decided to take another headache. This also happens in India. In India, there is also a party called BJP. They think that the SIRs etc. are doing wrong things. Whatever they do, in the end, if they win the election, then look, brother, we have won, so everything is fine. Meaning, all the sins of the winner are washed away. So they thought that just as they entered Venezuela in three days, entered and picked them up in three hours, they would enter Iran similarly. In three or four days, they would do whatever they wanted, and they would say, "We have won, we have won." In the celebration of that victory, the F file would be washed away, the file would disappear. But Iran's ideas were different. Iran, in itself, as they had propagated, or their own team was telling them, that Iran is in the Stone Age, it is a fanatically religious country, it is a terrorist country. Brother, if it were a terrorist country, how would it be firing so many missiles every day? You fire 17 missiles at it every day, and at night, after calculating the balance sheet, it throws 19 missiles back at you in the morning. In their country, the world's highest number of STEM research graduates are there. There is a simple rule to measure how educated and learned a civilization or a population is, and that is STEM.
It is said. How many people graduate in Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics? In the world, Iran has the most STEM graduates, with 112 graduates per 100 people. In America, it is over 400 people. In India, it is over 550 people. So, Iran, even though it may have been maligned worldwide and the world may not know it, was a fortified civilization in itself. It was functioning despite 50 years of sanctions. You underestimated it. You tried to do to it what you did to Venezuela, and it fought back. Now you are stuck. Because as soon as you return, if you consider this world, this war, to be over and say that you will not bomb anymore, that you are withdrawing from this war, then the next day the ghost of Einstein will again sit on your shoulders, because Einstein's ghost never left. So, on one side is Einstein's ghost. On the other side is Iran's ghost. Trump is stuck between these two. He thought Iran was not a ghost. He thought Iran was a civilization from the Stone Age. We will bomb it for two days. On the third day, we will kill its religious leaders. On the fourth day, we will declare victory and hoist our flag. After that, we have won. We have won. We will celebrate victory and leave. That did not happen. That is why, in my opinion, Trump is badly stuck. Now he wants to do something very big in these 30 days because it didn't happen. He wants to show some very big accomplishment. He wants to carry out some very big military operation, which, as Captain has said, and you have also said, it is possible that a lot of marines will be brought in to try and open Hormuz. Boots on the ground will be sent to capture Kharg Island. They might try to bring in tactical nuclear weapons. Sir, whatever you try to do, all this falls under war crimes, because Iran is not attacking you. Why would you use tactical weapons against a country that is not attacking you? Hormuz is open, and every day India, France, and all countries are getting petrol from it. How can you close Hormuz, which is open and from which oil is extracted daily? So, you can't even use the excuse of Hormuz to enter, saying that we need to open Hormuz, so I will bring my fleet. That excuse is also gone. If Iran has a nuclear bomb, then eight months ago you yourself said that we have defused it. When Iran has neither a nuclear bomb nor has it closed Hormuz, then how can you attack Iran? You cannot justify it. You do not have the support of their Congress, nor the support of the United Nations. That is why their generals are saying that Captain, if you talk about playing a match, then I will play. But what you are saying, that we should poison the opposing team at night, we will not do such things. This is what their team is saying. They went to explore Iran. They got themselves trapped. That's what I think. Yes. Yes, Sujata ji has joined. A very warm welcome to you, Sujata ji. And Prafull bhai, I will come to you. [Clears throat] Siddharth ji has given a long list. He has been running around since this morning. So, I requested him. I said, please reach on time in the evening. So, he reached quickly and spoke all these things so rapidly. And I will follow him again and watch it. So, Prafull bhai, two more senior generals of that army also received such orders. Major General William Green Jr., who was the head of the army's chaplains, and Lieutenant General David Hordne, who was the commanding general of the army's Transformation and Training Command. That is, to make future combat ready, in drones, in technology, in munitions, you saw how the Fateh-1 ballistic missile was launched. It goes into space, 300 km up, and then when it comes down, its second rotary motor starts. Its rotary vehicle starts, which changes its direction, so that the radar system, the radar system works like this: when the missile goes up and comes down, it comes in a single trajectory. The missile comes like this, curving. So, the radar catches it. The new ballistic missiles they have launched are not hyperglide vehicles. They are normal missiles that go 300 km into space. When they come down, they have glide rotary motors that get activated. They have liquid fuel, they have solid fuel. Captain will explain. So, they go in a zigzag movement, and it is not known where they will fall. They cover a radius of several hundred kilometers, whether they will fall 200 km away or 200 km earlier, and videos of all this are available on the internet. My question is straightforward: when warfare has become so technical, and you are unable to interfere with or intercept munitions, unable to understand them, in such a situation, the Chief of Staff, the Chief of Staff is the biggest post that manages all commands and structures. You went to assassinate the Supreme Leader and bring about regime change in Iran, and here you have removed your own Chief of Staff and changed your own command structure. All their 31 commands are firing continuously, and by removing your Chief of Staff, you have made your army directionless. I want to understand this issue from you. Has the uniformed army become politicized? Which we have been fearing for many days, like in India, like in America, and many other places, that whoever does not agree with you, saffronize them, bring them into your right-wing culture, destroy them so that they cannot ask questions, and only execute the orders given. Yes, yes, greetings to all colleagues. [Clears throat] If you recall, I also discussed this on this channel that there is a very serious tendency to militarize the civil with military content. In this context, I also discussed a specific organization in our country which already has military content and wants to add more. They have a great desire to empower and strengthen society. So, this is absolutely correct. In fact, Siddharth ji said many things and said them very well. We will also look at it, as you are seeing. So, I am not commenting on that. Captain, Captain ji also said. See, I understand, I am a civilian and I understand things in a civilian way or try to understand them. I understand why they were replaced. Why are they replaced? When the command we require, our subordinate employees, officers, whoever they are, they want to be asked for orders that we want to give. Not what they want to receive. This is a natural rule. Nowadays, the officer who writes the same thing in the file that the superior wants is preferred. For this, even if they are very honest, they talk informally, understand the mood, look at their history. This is natural. They must have requested the President, "Give this, give that, demand this, demand that." And as everyone gives, some people put hot potatoes in their hands. And some don't ask for anything. The command doesn't ask for potatoes at all. It says, "No, this is not possible." In very simple language, they said, "We can fight, but we cannot feed the opponent poison." It's a good competition. But at the same time, I would say that all the world organizations before this have been rendered meaningless or are on the verge of becoming meaningless. What Geneva Convention are we talking about? That Geneva Convention is now for researchers, for students to read. It has no value anymore for diplomatic behavior. We will go to the Soviet Union because many things were decided in World War II. The threat of the Soviet Union after World War II, I am saying this repeatedly, that pressure from the Soviet Union is gone. After that, they have no morality, no principles, no strength. Whatever they say is morality, is law, is ethics, is morality. So, they have destroyed all institutions. How many people have been convicted by the International Court of Justice? You are right that many countries have said that if they go, they will be arrested. But is it really true that they will be arrested? It is not like that. People keep going on this journey, and they will be arrested. And if such a law existed, they would say, "Brother, if he goes to America itself, then America will look into this, won't it? What is the UN doing? It is not doing anything at all." So, they are constantly saying this. The way they told the judges that if our heart's desire does not touch your heart, then resign. They have suppressed the entire series and removed it. Those who have to fight, and they know that fighting on the ground is a difficult task, and that too in another country. If all these bridges are being destroyed, suppose this ground battle will not be in a jungle or mountains. It will cross civilian areas somewhere. So, if all the bridges are broken, how will your communication happen? How will you communicate with Iran? This is the rule of the army, isn't it? They destroy the bridge they cross so that no one can come from behind. Captain will explain. I don't know that much strategy, but when you enter civilian areas, if America breaks it, and now Iran has also issued a list, so if all the bridges are broken, how will their communication happen? How will they go? These are long bridges, big bridges. So, all those countries will fall into alienation with each other, won't they? They are small islands. So, who is at a loss? What is America losing? What does America want at this time? What is going from America is going. The control it had over the world is slipping from its hands. They said that Hormuz. They also said that this war is an investment for us. They are investing so much in war. They are the masters of finding opportunities in disaster. We had said that such people, who have understanding, create disasters to get opportunities. So, now they have imposed it, and their England, which has always been with them, and which showed great bravery at the beginning, saying "If not us, then not them." Now they have involved them, and 35, 40, 60, I don't know how many countries, there is no number, but we think 40-50 countries have gone, including India. And there they are putting pressure on Iran. They will make diplomatic efforts. What will they do? Iran's statement is absolutely correct: "Yes, Hormuz was always open. If it is closed today, it is due to circumstances. Who is responsible for closing it? Who created such circumstances?" I am saying this repeatedly, sir, that after Hitler's suicide, two or three months later, in April, in August, the atomic bomb was dropped on Japan. So, now they repeatedly say that Hitler had created the circumstances for dropping the bomb, that it should be used. You are forced. They wanted a command that no ordinary soldier would want to give in normal circumstances. They tried to create abnormal circumstances all over the world. The regime is slipping from their hands, and if their own regime is slipping, they saw this very lightly. They had said, just like in our country, in the Anna movement, Manmohan Singh was given the title of someone who bathes wearing a raincoat, and they said, "They will come and do wonders." So, similarly, the demagoguery here, the populist politics, says all these things, and it is common among the right-wingers. "Biden will go, I will come. I will stop the war in Ukraine in a week, in 24 hours." When they realized that Russia had taken even a small part of Crimea, and why did Russia attack Ukraine? Because it wanted to become a member of NATO, and they were provoking it so that we could sit directly on Russia's chest. So, Russia understood it correctly. Putin, Putin was the head of the FBI, a successful businessman. So, he was a successful intelligence operator. Putin helped you in your election last time too. He understood how much you are worth and what you can do. So, what is the result now? The result is that things are slipping from their hands. And things are slipping away, and China has been working from behind the scenes all along. It is providing all the technological support. The more they advance, the more they will get stuck in the quagmire. A quagmire has been created for them. Our regret is that the people of our country, the decision-makers, have mortgaged India's interests with America, with Iran, not with Iran, but with America, with Israel. They are tied to it. Whether they win or lose, they will sink or do whatever they do. Our close relationship with Iran, Iran is seeing this. Iran had not considered us an enemy until now. Not until now. But it had certainly become cautious that Iran was seeing our collusion with its enemies, our interactions. Now Iran sees us with distrust. It does not consider us an enemy, but it does not consider us a trustworthy partner either. And what will be the result? You know that we have heard, I don't know if it's news, we have heard that a ship that was coming to India was diverted to China due to some payment-related problems. Now this problem has also arisen. So, our cleverness and cunning are evident. Three of our ships were also caught. We only hear. What information do we have? In such a situation, I feel that they are in a very abnormal situation, and the removal of their army is giving a very deep and fatal signal. A destruction segment will come, where they want something from within, from below, a war requisition, something destructive and in a new style. And these Rody Jobs were captains of the old style, meaning from three or four years ago, when there was no place for morality. Now, in the Trump administration, there is no place for morality. Although morality in war is secondary, anyway, Captain will describe it more. Sir, yes, yes, Sujata ji, I will come to you. Yesterday, we ended the program on one point, which was CDS Rawat, and now that same point has opened up again because his Chief of Staff, General George, was nominated by the Biden administration. It is reported that in 2023, he was working with the Secretary of the Army, Daniel P. Drysdale. So, he came from that culture. That culture is where Biden said that we need awakening. We should not help anyone hide their actions or their achievements. We should not support anyone in their madness. This was his philosophy, and perhaps from that philosophy, their Secretary of Defense, Daniel P. Drysdale, and General George, the CDS, the Chief of Chief of Army Staff, these two together opposed the repeated demands of Pete Hegseth. Because Hegseth was saying, because now he had to appoint four people, one-star generals, two of them were Black, and two were women, and Pete Hegseth was opposing it. So, it is said that the Secretary of Defense did not listen to Pete Hegseth. He said, "Whoever is in their position, whether they are women or Black or African American, if they have to become a one-star general, we will make them. We will not follow your word." So, these were some internal problems, because of which Pete removed him. Some people believe that this has a direct or indirect relation to Iran. But as the Secretary of Defense, he has the authority to remove the Chief of Staff at any time. So, he says that look at the Vietnam War, look at the Korean War. I will ask the Captain about its relation. I only want to ask you: can right-wing politics or right-wing politics do such things to snatch the rights of women and Blacks? And B, how much will this harm the American military? And as Siddharth sahib said, perhaps in Abraham Lincoln's ships, there was a soft mutiny, where they said they were not ready, and in Ford, it was said that some of their infrastructure got jammed, their sewage got jammed, so they stood in Greece. So, at the behest of the Chief of Staff, those two naval warships were not moving forward. Because of this, Pete Hegseth removed him. What is your opinion on this? Yes, Joe had resigned earlier, BRS. Yes, he was from counter-intelligence. He was not from the army. Yes, one thing is clear: from within, any dictator, either people rebel, or the system from within stands up, because they know that what is happening is wrong, and here, if you look, exactly the same thing is happening. Today, the truth is coming out that the people there are completely against this. And if you look at one thing about America, or many developed countries, European countries, the systems there work very strongly. Whoever has a job, does that job. Yes, if you talk about the Chief of Army Staff in America, look at Kash Patel on the other side. When someone in the system starts working for political leadership, it becomes clear that they are not working for their country. And if you are using your powers to remove officials, what does that prove? It proves that they are not listening to you, and you are using your power because you have power. But if you look at the other side, there must be a reason why the ships were not moving forward. So, it means that at this time, there are, I am talking about the larger context, there are two forces at play. One is the one that is moving with the system, and if Trump is the president of such a big country, his words are heard.
There must have been a reason, that's why so much has happened. But if you, when you are showing pictures, the talk of racial discrimination, all this is within the right wing itself, and according to what they want, to suppress women, these things are in their DNA. And it is clear that the system is opposing it in America, and the system believes that what was created, what Martin Luther King fought for and said that he was fighting not for himself but for the future of his four children, and in the larger context, for his people living in this country who faced racial discrimination at that time, when there were slaves, then even today, any enlightened society, aware society, developed society, and this is a developed country. It is a leading country in the world, and if such things are happening in it. If these malpractices are taking root, then there had to be a fallback, and that fallback is what we are seeing today. And Trump removing these people only shows that he does not have proper control over what people think. He might have control over signing them out, signing someone in, but he definitely does not have control over what people think and how people's morality works. And if you look at it from India's perspective, then they are working on our minds. Control is on the mind. There, Trump has failed. Or, if I may say, their morality is too strong and they have less hatred. The problems we have here are basically due to hatred. And if you find a parallel to this in America, then there are such people there too. But overall, it is a society that fights against it. Now, will things change by Donald Trump dismissing these three? I don't think so. I think the fallback will continue in another form, and they have to think about their country. They don't have to think about Trump and his children's businesses, his friends' businesses, right? Therefore, this will also become clear in a few days how much this fallback is increasing. Is it multiplying at great speed? But it will have to, because in any country, if your moral fiber is going to work, then it will think about the country. It will not accept sacrificing its people to capture Israel's or others' oil, putting its people in the jaws of death, and this is what is visible today. Yes, yes, yes, Captain sahib, two things have come to me through the media. Of course, I cannot confirm them, but they are credible media sources. They say that General George asked Pete Heg for time two weeks ago, asking why you are interfering in our promotions, whether they are one-star generals or other recruitments? And Pete Heg did not give him time but asked him to resign. He still had about a year and a half left until 2027. First question: Does the Secretary of Defense have the authority and responsibility to appoint people who, during the ongoing war with Iran, if they are not able to fully grasp the perspective of the elected governments, can remove them? Second point, some examples of counter-arguments are taken: look, in World War II, commanders in Korea, Vietnam, etc., were removed from their posts. Because war requires strategy, and if you feel your Chief of Staff is not working under the correct strategy, and the current government thinks this is wrong, then they can remove them. So it is a total political decision because the decision for war was Trump sahib's, not Congress's, nor under the UN Security Council's Article 5. So Trump sahib will do as he wishes. Who can stop him? Captain Ghum, only the people like, as I said in the beginning, this is an illegal war, never sanctioned by Congress, by the Senate, by any of the relevant authorities in America. It was just, what do they say, whims and fancies. So the war never had an aim. So, meaning, when the beginning itself is absolutely illegal, then what can you question such people for? Right? He has been questioned: What was the reason for starting the war? Declared illegal by America. So what can be expected from such a person? So what they are doing is absolutely wrong. There is no system like that. And war is, when the war is on, it is totally given to the generals. What do politicians know? What knowledge does Trump have about security? And the army, he is a pure hardcore dirty businessman. He is taking the army war as his own business. He is already starting claims, asking for claims, war claims, meaning from those he is destroying, from those states that are being destroyed due to him, he is asking for compensation. So the problem is that the two or three people who have come have no knowledge of anything but are making decisions, and unfortunately, whatever is happening is happening, it should not happen. So my clear answer to your question is that this is how it happens, this is absolutely not done in reality, it is never done. Yes, but the way things are, there is no head or tail, no knowledge, nothing, but they happen to be sitting in top positions. They are misusing it, and it continues. This must stop. The world will have to get together, that is the only way. Yes, clear answer. Yes, yes, yes, I will come to you, Siddharth ji, and this question becomes a bit technical. Without Congress's permission, you initiated a war? You did not even mention the UN resolution under Article 15, Article 5, forgive me. You said it's a war, so it is. We thought we would be attacked, so we attacked first. Now the point is, during the war, such political interference by the Secretary of Defense, obviously taken with Trump sahib's permission, will it not lower the morale of that army? Politically, you have shown control. You have said that we have full authority to remove the Chief of Staff. But below the Chief of Staff, there is a whole pyramid, their leadership, the whole demographic. Like a domino. So if you remove the domino from the top, will the entire army's structure, the command structure, not be shaken? Here we are not dead, and 31 command structures are working simultaneously without talking to each other, and coordinated attacks are happening, while there is no communication with each other. No round table meetings are happening. No Chief of Staff is sitting at this time. They also killed Larry Janik. They killed many others too. So will this be considered a command failure? And the Commander-in-Chief, because he is the President of America, he is giving a new statement every day, so the army is also confused about what Trump wants. What is the end game of America going into this war? Yes. [Clears throat] The end game is simple, man. Iran is doing a lot of things, what do you call it? Spamming, hacking their internet, etc. If Iran hacks and releases the Epstein file, this war will end tomorrow morning. This entire war is being fought by Trump sahib because he wants to escape the Epstein file. That's one thing. The second thing is that in America's system, the American President has less power to make policies for people within America. But they have a little more power in foreign policy and defense matters. That's why you see that a person named Mamdani, a staunch opponent of Trump sahib, contests elections for the post of mayor and wins. Trump sahib cannot stop him. So America's system is such that the President has very little power in America's internal matters. There is more decentralization of power in America. There are about 3000 counties there, so the police in each county, like a district in India, the police commissioner of that district, the people of that district elect them. The judge of that district is also elected by the people of that district. So the President's authority in America's internal affairs is less. But because they have more authority in foreign policy and defense matters, that's why you see that since Trump sahib came, he has been talking more about external matters. We will do trade deals with the world, impose tariffs on it, bomb it. He never talks about internal matters like increasing jobs for people here, giving them good health, good education. He doesn't talk about all that. So this is a structural difference. And the second thing is that Iran, everyone knows about Iran, Iran had already made a rule that if it was attacked, because Iran itself is a civilization. A civilization has a civil institutional memory. Meaning, a civilization has its memories. So on that civilization, because it has been attacked many times before, when anything happens, see, you can kill a lion with a bullet from a gun, but if a beehive attacks you, and many bees come, you cannot die with one bullet. You might kill one or two bees, but another bee will come at you. So a decentralized system, Iran understood that if you have to give a proper fight to something, then it attacks like a bee. Suddenly, it scatters in all directions like bees. It doesn't attack like a lion. And this became a problem for Trump sahib because Trump sahib comes from a system of power centralization, he thought that just as he is very powerful in America, similarly, a person named Khamenei is very powerful in Iran. If I kill Khamenei, the entire structure of Iran will collapse. But Iran's structure was different. That's his understanding, his problem. I am not worried about them anymore. They will sort it out amongst themselves. Now the problem is that even though this war is happening outside India's map, and outside the map of BJP's Akhand Bharat, the effect is most on us. The effect is that, as Mr. Kolkian ji said, he shed a little light on it, that some oil tankers are coming to us from Iran or not. So the data shows two things: an Iranian gas tanker named Sea Bird has been standing at the port of Karnataka since March 30, and it has not been unloaded yet. And second, a very large Aframax tanker, said to be the world's largest Very Large Carrier, VLC, carrying 600,000 barrels of crude oil, meaning crude oil. The ship named Pingxiang, it had started from Iran, it was supposed to dock at Gujarat's V Nagar yesterday, April 4th, but today it has turned away from the Gujarat coast and is going towards China. The issue is that there is a payment issue involved. The payment issue is that Iran is saying that we want upfront cash now. Meaning, only if you give us cash will I unload. And India's stance is that because until 2018, the account of Iran's National Oil Company was in UCO Bank in Kolkata, India, and until 2018, the total energy India used, about 11% of the energy India used in 2018 came from Iran, and India used to pay for it in Rupees in its own UCO Bank in Kolkata, and Iran used that account. Meaning, until 2018, in the world, we know that the price of oil is measured in barrels in dollars, that today it is $X, today it is $80, today in some places it has even become $0. But until 2018, there was such an arrangement between Iran and India that Iran's largest oil company had an account in UCO Bank in Kolkata. India used to pay in Indian Rupees for the energy it took from Iran, and Iran used it. But suddenly in 2019, the Indian government, under pressure from America and others, closed that bank account. Now the Indian government is saying that for the two tankers you have sent me, I will put money in UCO Bank. Iran is saying, no, no, give me cash first. I don't want your Rupees. So this is the problem. Although two of our ships have left Hormuz, one ship is standing with gas in Bor, but it is not unloading because Iran is saying give me money now, and in cash. And the second ship came near Gujarat, near V Nagar, and turned back because it must also be saying that give me cash, you are not able to give it, you are saying take Rupees from UCO Bank. It is saying I don't want your Rupees. When we were taking it, you yourself closed it. So on the other hand, what has happened is, look, Russia, China, and France vetoed the use of force in Hormuz in the United Nations yesterday. And 40 countries together, led by Britain, are preparing to make a successful treaty with Iran. That treaty is largely complete. If my information is correct, Iran has said that European ships can pass through our Hormuz, and in the last two or three hours, the first French ship has passed through Hormuz in the last month. Meaning, Europe and others are making their own separate treaties with Iran. Now your treaty, you are the world guru, your treaty is done, your ship is standing there, why are you not able to get it unloaded, brother? You answer that. So the problem is this. So in the coming time, I think due to this entire problem, India will face a deeper energy crisis because LPG, petrol, urea, plastic, the prices of all these are going to double. There is no doubt about this. Hormuz opened yesterday, let's assume the war ended, that's why Hormuz opened, even then energy rates have increased. Let's assume the war has not ended, but Hormuz is open. French ships are also coming, your two ships have also arrived, but the rates have increased. And the entire credit for this, for the inflation in oil, goes to the slogan "Ab ki baar Trump sarkar" (This time, Trump government). Every citizen of India should learn a lesson from this that if Trump did not have so much power, he would not have bombed Iran, and there would not have been a crisis in my kitchen. The root of this entire problem is that Trump sahib has more power than necessary. So whether a person is good or bad, if there is centralization of power, the danger will increase. Just four years ago, when Trump sahib was the President of America for four years, there was no problem. No one thought he would do such great madness. The same Trump sahib comes back after four years. He does strange things. So instead of looking at the person, citizens of India in politics should understand that worship of individuals should be reduced. Think about the person, think less about the systems. No matter how good or bad a person is, the more power you give into his hands, he will do something across seven seas, such a big thing that its impact will be felt by you across seven seas in your personal life, in your home. We can also learn from Iran. As soon as Iran was attacked, it decentralized its structure like bees, calling it mosaic defense, that's a technical term. In simple language, the lion, Iran was a lion, suddenly as soon as Khamenei was killed, it turned out not to be a lion but bees. Now you can kill a lion with one bullet. You cannot kill a beehive with one bullet. So this is what it has done. I think in the coming time, for India, the energy crisis will not be as severe as the energy crisis, because Hormuz is starting to open. You will talk to Iran. Iran needs money. The price of oil in the world has increased. Iran will get more price for every ship that leaves Hormuz, and it will also get toll. It will get both things. So one, oil is expensive, hence Iran benefits more. On top of that, when a ship leaves Iran from Hormuz, it also collects toll. It must have learned this good toll system from our Gadkari ji. I don't know, I think it must have learned from these toll collectors. Iran is very fast in taking formulas in these matters from BJP. So it has taken the formula of your world guru and started charging tolls there. So in India, energy will start becoming quite expensive, and as energy becomes expensive, your LPG, your home LPG, your home electricity, your car fuel, plastic, urea, fertilizer, all these will have problems. As for the rest, I think this subject is slowly, because Trump sahib has fewer options left. Now, if Trump sahib wants to do something, it will be his whim, and his whim will be followed by his generals, the military. I don't think the military will follow that whim. As I gave the example at the beginning, if the captain talks about playing properly, tells the batsman to go down a bit, go forward, go back, tells the bowler to bowl now, then he will obey. But if he tells the bowler, look, go and smash the opponent's head, the batsman's head, then I don't think any player does that. The player also knows which instruction of the captain to follow and which not to follow. So.
These whims of Mr. Trump have only two reasons. First, his whim was saying that Iran has a nuclear bomb, so you yourself bombed so much eight months ago and said that Iran does not have a bomb, so why are you bombing now? Second, you can say that no, no, Iran has brought an energy crisis to the whole world by stopping Hormuz. So what is Iran saying? Many countries in the world are saying that yes, my ship is coming out of there. And it is also open. Iran does not have a nuclear bomb either. So how will you escalate the war against Iran now? This means that even after this, if you escalate, it means you are going to commit war crimes, and if war crimes happen, then before the Nuremberg trial or the Tokyo trial, all the generals and big people were hanged. So I think that America's internal system is now awakening. I will not be surprised. In the next one or two days, the Congress of America, their parliament, may also take a decision on this that this war should be stopped, or it is not in your interest, sir, such a decision can be taken, I will not be surprised. Yes, Praful Bhai, two things that Siddharth Ji said, one he talked about the Vostro account, Iran's Vostro account. Yes, the Vostro account is not new. We used to get oil from both Russia and Iran. This was started by the Manmohan Singh government when Manmohan Singh was the Finance Minister and then the Prime Minister. In the Vostro account, you used to deposit money equivalent to rupees. Oil would come to you from the account, and you would adjust your trade balance and balance of payments based on your net import-export. What happened was that you did not have to buy dollars, and you did not have to transfer money under the SWIFT code. But we have lost that trust. We ended the contract with Russia in February. We have already done programs on this. We have not purchased from Iran since 2018. So Iran needs cash now because Iran needs daily ammunition. It is fighting a war. It is fighting a big war. It is fighting an existential war. It cannot give credit. So obviously, because our Prime Minister and his entire half government come from Gujarat, and the business acumen of Gujarati businessmen is recognized as being unmatched. So they should understand that if the other person is in crisis, you will have to pay them first to get oil. The second thing you mentioned, 35 countries. Among the 35 countries, there are some countries that Iran has allowed their oil and their ships. France is one of them. Because in France, Macron has clearly said that we are not supporting America. And Mr. Trump has also said that I know that when your wife slaps you, your right jaw gets injured. So this means that Mr. Modi also, Mr. Trump must know many things about Mr. Modi. That's why Mr. Modi's mouth doesn't open in front of Mr. Trump, perhaps. All that then comes back to the FCN. Regarding all these things, what Siddharth Ji said at the end, I want to ask you about that. He talked about non-alignment, that India has never stood with any power structure. It always follows a policy of non-alignment. That you should remain non-aligned. If you stand with any power structure, the other will get angry with you. You have to remain non-aligned and not be with any power. In today's situation, is it not proven that whatever Jawaharlal Nehru said and did, wherever you deviated from Nehru's policy or our foreign policy, you suffered losses? Yes, he has spoken absolutely correctly about the Non-Aligned Movement, but Siddharth Ji has spoken on a very broad level. I just want to know, based on estimation, what is our free reserve and strategic reserve of Yuan? They must have an idea. What is our free reserve of Yuan? India has, yes, yes, that will have to be verified as it is, meaning they must have an estimate, as they are researchers and do research, so Yuan's, yes, so this will depend a lot on our Yuan's, what is our position in the foreign exchange reserves, what is its contribution, how much is it. Anyway, what you said later, if Siddharth Ji tells, I will see. I am saying that regarding the Non-Aligned Movement that you talked about, see, the Non-Aligned Movement, which was formed after the Bandung Conference on the principle of non-aggression, was not diplomatic, nor strategic. It was a civilizational commitment that we have to move the world towards development. Gradually, diplomacy means if there is deception, trickery, spreading rumors, cajoling, and strategy means saying things hidden even from your friends. We meet less these days. I used to write earlier, so I have written many times that people meet less these days. They deal more. That is, they keep dealing with each other. So in such a situation, our position is that the structure of the Non-Aligned Movement did not align with power structures. This is absolutely true. But it kept making the power structure aware of its existence, and that awareness was a moral, intellectual, civilizational awareness that you cannot go against humanity. Excuse me, if you allow me a little, I would like to point this out to you. Today is Good Friday. It is very difficult to become a god for people who die carrying the sins of others. We remember the Lord. In India, only Mahatma Gandhi achieved the path of Mahatma by giving his life. All others are gods who take lives. But I am just saying the second thing. I am saying that many people there, when the freedom movement was going on, were under the misconception that he is a new avatar of Lord Jesus Christ who talks like this. So much so, and it happens like this. You will see, there was a section of people in England too. Therefore, Mahatma Gandhi was respected on another level as well. This was his moral strength. Moral strength, meaning the strength that comes from standing by the policies of one's life, is also included in moral strength. Because we have no policy left, where is the morality? There can be no morality without policy. And in the last 12-14 years, the Indian government has dissolved all its policies. It has dissolved policies. It has not made any policy. We have no morality. We have become untrustworthy, untrustworthy in the whole world. We are not trustworthy to anyone, whether it is Trump, or America, Iran, Russia, China, let alone Pakistan. No country sees us as a trustworthy partner. We have broken everyone's trust, and because we have surrendered to a power structure, we, we, even today Iran does not consider us an enemy, believe me, but yes, it sees us as a friend, it sees our shortcomings, it sees us balancing and dealing with its enemies. It does not like that, hence they do not trust us. The account you were hinting at, the Youko Bank, was saved, and then Iran stood up, and what a great relief that was, Manmohan Singh knew this, whom these people call those who bathe wearing raincoats. What do they know? They probably don't even know how much husk is in how much rice, and how much husk is in how much paddy, and how much rice there is. They only know how much rice is in it, not the husk. Whereas if there is no husk, then there is no paddy from paddy. What has become rice can only be eaten, can be consumed. It is the husk itself, the chaff, which is why its creativity remains. The world does not run on merit alone. That is why I repeatedly say, when our saints said, "Go to the essence, essence," they did not say, "On what principle." This fight is long, and its consequences will have to be borne. People like us in India will have to bear its consequences. What about the big people who don't have umbrellas, they get less wet in the rain. Those who don't even have umbrellas get less wet in the rain. Those who have umbrellas get a little less wet. Those who have roofs don't get wet. In India, very few people have roofs. When I talk about roofs, I am talking about mitigation. I am talking about how when we mitigate threats, we can reduce them or we have the capacity to bear them. This is a vocabulary of the environment, mitigation, adaptation. But it also applies to areas of life. So we are in a state of mitigation, adaptation. In this water, we will definitely get wet. Therefore, we will have to bear its pain. Let's see what happens. Yes, yes, Sujata Ji, I will take your final comment, and it will be a short comment. Ah, you saw how these ICE agents of yours, in many cities, without any provocation, just because someone looks brown or someone looks like an immigrant, they started harassing them, bothering them, asking for papers. If they don't show papers, or if they are going, they will shoot them, and you have seen many such cases. These ICE agents were a product of Trump because Trump was playing on white supremacy, and when he says that I will destroy Iran, the idea of destroying Iran, "I will take them back to the Stone Ages," this is the dream of Greater Israel that Mr. Trump is showing. So white supremacy and destroying Iran, don't they realize that destroying Iran means the entire Middle East, the entire Gulf, and the entire humanity of that region, Central Asia, will be destroyed? What will be left after that? In what madness is this? Yes, you are absolutely right. When wars like this happen, where neither the territory is defined, nor the participants have clarity, nor are they enemies of each other for any reason. None of this is visible. Whose war is this? Whose territory is this? Why is it being fought? Only Trump knows this. The rest are defending themselves, and Israel is trying to make its place. That's it. So, the way this war is happening, it is foolishness in a civilized society and in today's times. But having said that, since they have already gone into this war, now only their own, meaning, all these talks are now meaningless because whatever steps Trump is taking, it is clear that he is only trying to save his own honor because, as we say in India, people in his country also know today that because of Trump, their country's reputation, its name, everything will be finished due to this policy of his, and I don't think most Americans would like or would have liked that their country's development is being neglected, and they are engaging in expansionist politics or war in such a place where it is not their land. They will not tell America anywhere there, or they are not going to create a new America, let's call it a Lesser US, in that place. So this is just a foolish war, and you know, in this, it has become clear that on two sides, it is clear who is in their favor and who is against them. In their favor are only their government and these people, and along with them, Israel, which is hoping that they will continue to be helped. Otherwise, I don't see anyone else with them. You are forcing people to speak even within your country, but no one is with you. So this is a lost game, and I feel that this pressure, these discussions happening all over the world, make it clear that even the brave people of America speak out, but they also know that their words are being recognized, and I only have one thing to think about at this moment: when will this war end, when will peace be established in the world, and for that, I still feel it will take some more time. Yes, yes, yes. Thank you very much to Manish Ji, Praful Bhai, Sujata Ji, and Gurdeep Singh Goman Ji for participating in today's discussion. Namaste. Thank you very much.