The Bhad Bhabie Interview

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No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today, we have the one and only, Baby Fendi. There it is, Daniel the goalie. How you feeling?

I'm excited to have you on here. People, like always, kind of wondered if it would ever happen. Or passive cross, you just said you've been here seven times. I saw you get your nails done in the back there, and Rico Nasty, mean green. So, I mean, getting your nails done back here, that's pretty, pretty personal.

So it's not like I did your nails. It was like a whole station. They were doing lots of nails back there.

Yeah, amazing. Um, anyway, yeah. So this is the question: Do you want to do a regular interview, or do you want to do an interview that's a regular interview, but starts out with us talking about the Rice Gum [ __ ] that happened today? Because I know you see in it. I didn't see it. You want me to tell you some of the things that he said?

I thought someone that was a little inappropriate. I'm gonna be honest with you.

Well, he said you look like a rat. That's one thing that I, multiple times, multiple times, the rat accusation was thrown around.

Oh, she's blaming her security guard right now. Well, he says that about you. So did you meet him as your security guard, or because it seems that you guys are very close now? You know, when you're with someone every day, right? You even dropped his salary in a song, which I thought was pretty impressive because, you know, a lot of people don't think his behalf. He makes like three dollars a day.

Okay, very nice. I like that, though. It's like, you know, you're around somebody so much, you might as well just start, you know, being friends with them, right?

I mean, it's more forced than ever. It's forced because you guys just, you have to be around them, right?

Well, I'd probably also just end up at my, we were saying at my grandmother's house, being my mom, and then he was saying it's his hotel. I'm talking about literally across the, I'm not like right across the street, literally. And I didn't sleep the whole night because I was having separation anxiety from him.

Yes, really. It's like you're like, childhood teddy bear now, at this point in your life. Except, except he's like 240 pounds and looks like he's probably killed somebody before.

Maybe not literally. No, he's just probably manhandled some people before.

What's the craziest thing you've ever seen him have to do in terms of like protecting you?

I mean, usually people don't try because he just looks like how he looks. They know better. And other people were just like, there, there's some people who just don't give a [ __ ] and they'll just go to talking [ __ ]. But they don't ever get close enough, like they just. But we had one incident. We were at the Grove and Frank was gonna like grab him by his throat. That was about all that happened.

A dude who was bothering. Yeah, it was little. He was like, we really square up though. Frank was like, nah, but I will. And then he like ran away with his rings. So that's like as far as we got. But I just recently got to watch and beat up somebody really on your behalf. Someone in your backyard started boxing. But you know, Frank did learn how to play fight.

Really? Oh, so it was his own little slab bhajan thing. Okay, I got you. All right. You want, you want me to tell you another thing? Rice Gumson, he said keep bragging about them, about you getting money, but the label taken half. So he's claiming that he knows what's up at your contracts. Probably no, that's not okay. But in his opinion, you've talked a bunch of [ __ ] about him. What is it that you don't like?

We're not equal. Mm-hmm. We're not equal. Like, when a teacher tells you something, you just do. You don't talk back. So they say we're not supposed to. But I mean, they advise for me. But you're not supposed to, like, your, you know, I mean, like, you're the teacher. Rice Gum's the student.

Why do you feel? You think he was influenced by you?

I mean, I think he's more slick now, ever since I came along. A lot of these busy to do that because, listen, I know, I know one [ __ ] right. Never got her nails long. Told me my nails were ugly long. Who never cursed? Never did none of that [ __ ]. Now should be on. Oh, beach [ __ ] better than uh [ __ ] [ __ ] hoes [ __ ] hold that it uh, what her nails long as hell. Like, get the [ __ ] out of my face. Yeah.

You've been doing that for a long time. Have another ridiculously long nails. How the [ __ ] you type with that?

I type late with my mitts. It's like I'm a [ __ ] bear just smashing away on the keys. I can't imagine. You know, I've seen my girlfriend do it. Yeah, you keep them floating above it. Sort of. That's cool.

Now, some of the other things you said were kind of mean in general. I don't know if we should necessarily dig. Someone seems kinda inappropriate for me to even repeat. You want to read, read these tattoo lyrics here that, uh, there's a quotes. How the [ __ ] are you forcing with rumors that you sleep around? Just like your dad. You're not a girl I want to keep around.

Hey, I didn't say it.

How do you feel about that? Do you think that those are pretty good bars, or do you think that's kind of bad?

I'm not, uh, don't get me wrong. All conversate with a lot of dudes. So I find attractive. Doesn't mean I'm dating them. Doesn't mean I'm with them. Doesn't mean I have a hold on them. Doesn't mean I've never done anything with them. Mhm. So just because you've seen me with a dude means that I'm automatically having sex with them? Like, come on, get out of my face. That's offensive. Like, I took a picture with, what, not even was on Face Off my Kodak. I didn't meet Kodak until [ __ ] day and night until that day. I did. I'd never had never met him. So then if there was already rumors going around, "Oh, she [ __ ] card." And then I'm at the studio and I'm me and I meet Jackboy. So we took a picture together. Okay, cool. And then, "Oh, you got the edges like when Kodak." You know, I remembered shipping was going off of people about that [ __ ]. Um, who else? There's been so much skies. So like, just like, shut up, please. Yeah.

People really just feel I need to just assume. Huh. Especially since they would be discussing criminal behavior. For a lot of these guys, they're way too old to even be considered in this conversation. Look at what people just assume. No, it's crazy.

Okay, laughing. It, I mean, Kodak kind of like, I felt like he was trolling by having to do the video for him. Who dude was an Atlantic thing. Okay. How did that happen?

We were just shooting a video for my merch and a song came on. I just already go in and that happened.

Really? I was it Mike? I guess Kodak got his hands on it and he was like, let's make this. That everything went Kay. Video, right?

How do you feel about the fact that Rice Gum also had some stuff to say about YoungBoy? What do you think?

I didn't even write down exactly what he wrote. What he said. I just wrote he brought up YoungBoy. Brought up what about him? I don't know. Something about how you weren't treating him right or something.

I don't like when people talk about that because you have no idea what happened in that situation.

Really? No one knows what's happened in that situation. No one knows why we're not together. No one knows why he went with some girls beef and went. No one knows why nothing. So when it, whenever it comes to YoungBoy, people need to keep their [ __ ] mouth shut because you know absolutely nothing.

And is this just information that you're keeping close to your chest? You don't want him, but didn't know?

Just like, listen, me and him, we met. We met through an an art Atlantic. I had listened to his music way before, right? I'm thinking, okay, cool. I'm gonna meet him, right? So I go, I go to the studio, I meet him, and he, he's like, oh, um, let me get your number, right? So I'm like, okay, give me some. I'm not thinking nothing about it. Really. Like, okay, he's cool, whatever. Like, I'm not saying he's ugly, but I'm not thinking nothing in my. Right. And then we take a picture, he puts his arm around me, and I'm like, okay. And meanwhile, he's 17. So, and it's my decision anyways. Then today, so if I wanted to pursue anything, I could have. So we're just regular eyes conversations, like nothing, nothing internet. And then we just had got an argument about something. And I'm in my mind, I'm like, this can't, this isn't gonna work. So I just three tons for you. Not too intense for me, but just, I see the type of person you are. Uh-huh. I'm not putting myself in that situation because that's how bad [ __ ] happens. And I, I'm like, and I still, I still say cool with him. I never had beef with him or nothing. I just said cool him. But I think, I think what happened on his part was he got upset because I understood what was gonna go. I understood what route he was gonna take, just because I haven't been the type person he is. And I was just like, all right, cool. And then I think that's why he ended up with that right face [ __ ].

Oh, there we go. Do you, did you see the video of him with supposed girl in the hotel hallway? What do you think of that?

There's not the kind of stuff you were worried about. He, that's why. That's yes and no because we, we had it. We had a different type of relationship. It wasn't, we weren't dating. We weren't just friends. We were just like, like, we just like kind of connected in a way, if that makes sense. Like, so I don't, I don't think, I don't think he would do that if that was me. Mhm. I just, I, and I think that we wouldn't be together for that reason because he's a Thai person. He wouldn't want to do that.

There you go. But do you feel like people blew the relationship up into being something bigger than it was?

Just because people like to do that. Yes. I mean, oh, with those, those pictures that were posted. All it was, he sent me the pictures and I'm just like, alright, I'm a post one. I posted one with a caption from one of his songs. Okay, cool. I guess he's really [ __ ] with me.

How do you feel about like trolling in general? Just like saying ridiculous things on social media in order to get a reaction? Do you think that that's something you do? Or I guess think the other side of it is, is everything you do completely sincere and real? Because I think about everybody now on social media, stuff kind of has to understand the, the general route that you could take towards, you know, getting people to talk about you. Everybody sort of is aware, oh, if I put some crazy-ass caption in this photo, then everybody's gonna, you know, leave a hundred thousand comments.

People know. Like, I'm only talking [ __ ] because you're in another city or another state. You're out of my reach. Mhm. If you were in front of me, I'd rock you. See whether your girl, boy, transgender, whatever you are, I don't care. You beat up a trans person. Anybody can get it. These hands. Quad sexual.

I like that you're still down to threaten, like, people generally with violence, which is kind of like, that's how you came into the game, and you're like, [ __ ] it, I'm gonna keep rocking with it.

People say, yes, it is. These [ __ ] don't learn. But you know, there's some [ __ ]. And I used to be that [ __ ]. Because clearly that was tiny. I really, when I was younger, I really couldn't fight. But I was that, I was that type of [ __ ] that you could beat the [ __ ] out of me. Next day, I'm coming. I'm gonna come up to you and be like, like, that's, that's just how I do [ __ ].

Yeah, just you've never been scared since you were young?

No. I mean, oh, I just know. I just don't like.

What were you like before the fame? Like, who was Danielle?

I had no right. And so, but you were, you were still in school and stuff? You still have like a relatively?

No, you've been taken out of school. Took my cellphone because we were getting trouble at some stuff, or just hated it?

No, I just had no reason to be there. I had better things to do outside. I knew, I knew how to add and I knew how to subtract. I didn't know how to divide and how to multiply, though.

Have you figured out division at this point?

Yeah, I mean, they got calculators now. I don't know if you really even need to know that. Shit's like, as long as you can add and you can redo, you can write. You have to be able to spell correctly. There's no how to like, I mean, a lot of people have said that that it's like, you know, do you really need to know how to do math in an era where everybody's get a calculator? Everybody's got Google?

Nope. You got the [ __ ] in your pocket. You got this little calculator right here and you can just figure stuff out on your own. Your own personal nerd.

It's true. Although I do think it's handy to be able to do division on the spot. But I mean, at the same time, I don't know. I can't imagine what it would be like not knowing how to do division.

How about this? How about you got 12 eggs and you and your three friends or I'll make it breakfast. How many eggs reasonably? There you go. It's like, how many eggs would be allocated to each person?

I wouldn't even ever tell you. It was really. Maybe math is good. Oh, no. Anyway, okay, so can you just tell me the circumstances that led up to you being on that show in the first place? I don't want to talk too much about, you know, that whole episode and everything, but I just do think it's interesting that your mom even thought it was a good idea to bring you on this show in the first place. What was her idea with that?

What it is, really, she, every shot a long time ago and she was just like, alright, well, I'm gonna just do this, right? Just like she never thought he would ever reply back. So three years later, replies back and then my mom is just like, alright, cool, let's go on TV, try to get you some head.

Oh, right. And so, were you and your mom like constantly fighting and bickering for that? Just like any other person? We just let people see, right?

Tell me, tell me, you never argue with your mama for your life?

Oh, yeah. When I was your age as hell, I tried to run away. She'd always catch me. She caught me like a mile down the street. I remember one night, I, I went under it, like, in between the box spring and the mattress and just laid flat. And then a cop flipped over the mattress. The cops showed up because she thought you were missing.

Every [ __ ] time the cops would come, I'm just like, and you were just, one time where I was in the [ __ ], I was in the shower and she, she thought I, she thought I, or whatever, I was in the bathroom doing something and she thought I would have ran away. Called the cops. Cops [ __ ] banging on the [ __ ] door and I'm like, what happened? Like, what? I agree. Are you? It's own outside. Like, what are you doing? She's like, oh, there you are. What? Yeah. That lady loves her got employees. That's crazy.

What's your relationship with your mom like now?

Well, you just don't talk about. Yeah, we do. Like, we get along or whatever. It's just like, is she okay with the stuff that you do to make a living and everything?

She's alright with this. Amazing parent. She's just in that case. I think a lot of.

Okay, so let me ask you that. That's when did you realize that you were famous?

When? Oh, my ex-best friends and early to Walmart and my looking raggedy as hell because when you're nobody, you don't care. Mhm. So you're not running your friends and [ __ ], you don't care. You can go to Walmart. You can look like she like [ __ ] pajama pants and slippers and like a cut-off t-shirt and I'm like walking around. Patient of me is he's like, not, you're tripping. So we keep walking and I'm like, and she's like, nah, I seen it. So me and her run it [ __ ]. We take pictures for desolate because we don't know. We've never seen before. Never seen that before. So it's like, you're ready to bang on it. Oh, we go to them. You gotta fight with her in the Walmart, right? But then this just kept happening over and over to the point where you realize like, oh, I can't just yell at everybody anymore, right?

But it was there, like a certain point where you realize like, I'm not gonna just let the fact that I went viral just be, you know, the end of the story for me. I think that's what kind of impressed and surprised a lot of people is that you actually were like, nah, [ __ ], I'm gonna actually like make a career out of this, right?

Yeah, it's like a lot of people wouldn't even expected you to still be like a household name at this point, but somehow. But do you, have you ever considered sort of like cleaning up parts of your image? Or do you think that like saying stuff like that, you know, [ __ ] you, [ __ ], but but do you think that that is such a part of your character of what people love you for that you can't stop doing stuff like that?

I feel for myself, not for everybody else. [ __ ]. But for myself, if I think, you know, maybe I shouldn't do this no more. Maybe I should, you know, I'm gonna do it cause of me, not because I want to clean up my image.

Do you think that cleaning up your image would be like incredibly difficult for you?

Because you just don't have like, you know, it would be like a really upsetting thing for me on a personal level. Like, I know I'd probably be able to make more money or be more marketable or something if I were to sort of clean up the way I talk, the way I act. I can't do it. You know, I gotta be right. If I'll be weird, if I start thing, all the real me, [ __ ], they'd be like, um, there's a little innocent white girl. You'd be like, a lot of other people. And that's what I'm not. I mean, honestly, when I was before I was famous, I was still not like everyone else. Mhm. My name was always in someone's mouth. Someone always liked me. Someone was hating me. Girls wanted to be the girls that wanted to be friends of me in school, talk [ __ ] about me to get me to be around them, to get me to say something back to them. I was never just wanted one of these hidden kids. Like, I was always, always stood out. And I always made sure I stood out. If I wasn't getting attention, I'm gonna wreck this whole place to get some.

And in that way, you were really sort of built for the social media age where it's all about attention. Do you think that that is what motivates you at this point? Are you motivated by money? Or is it by just, I want to see how crazy this [ __ ] can get, how famous I can get?

Motivated by happiness. Mhm. They're not motivated with my, my money.

You don't think about like, oh, I want to have this amount of money?

No, because I can make money either way. Mhm.

Do you make, you make like a lot of money at this point? It must be like weird to think about how much money you make, right?

True or false? Why? You just don't like to dig around in that too much. You don't like pay attention to the business so much.

What part of the job of the stuff that you do on, like, a weekly basis, do you enjoy the most?

Arguing with Frank. That's not so much part of the job. That's, as you could sort of do that. It is. You could probably go security guard that you don't even have to argue it at all. I would be [ __ ] in a [ __ ] mental house.

So you're saying that he keeps you sane? Let's go. You guys have been like roasting each other since you walked in. He was already just trying to make jokes at your expense, just [ __ ] with you. You're [ __ ] with him back.

I think he can come up to me and [ __ ] knock my rugs off. If I come up to him and pinch him, he's gonna.

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Okay, but what about like, okay, are you having the most fun when you're recording music? When you're, you know, going out, hustling up new business deals? When you're making the YouTube videos and you're out doing interviews or media appearances? What is the stuff when you were young, did you see yourself being famous? Did you think that was probably gonna be part of your future?

I was gonna always be the big fish, right? I feel like you were either gonna become somebody. Who I would say this about myself too, is that I was, my mom told me this one time, she said, Adam, people like you end up in jail. And then I ended up, you know, I should doing pretty well for myself. But when I think about it now, it's like, a lot of the stuff I was doing, I was younger, I probably, it was a lot more likely than I would have ended up in jail. Yeah. I don't know. That when I think about a lot of the things I did in my life, I could have very easily ended up in jail for a long time. And then I probably wouldn't end up doing this. I have so many [ __ ] battery cases.

What do you do? Do you have your own [ __ ] worry about [ __ ]? Do your [ __ ] let me worry about my [ __ ]? Like, once you get to my level, then don't you feel but somebody like Rice Gum? I mean, he, you know, you have insulted him publicly in your YouTube videos and stuff like that. So I mean, that's you having an opinion on somebody who doesn't have anything to do with your life.

Okay, I'm here. Like, that's all it is. Mhm. Like, I'm just little tiny baby fish. Yeah.

When did, what was starting to take the rap thing more seriously? Was that a big part of you sort of started taking the overall career seriously? Or were you already like, no, I'm gonna be more, I'm gonna really try to make money off of this name and build for myself, and then the rap thing just sort of came later?

It was, it was kind of like, I wanted to do something and I'm thinking, all right, what should I'm good at, right? And I've always loved music. I still, I clearly still love music. I'm saying like, I always listen to music, no matter where I am. I'm in on all types of [ __ ]. Like, mostly like my two genres really are old-school R&B, rap type [ __ ]. Like, Ray J, old Chris Brown and [ __ ]. Like, autumn, like Mariah Carey and Keyshia Cole, respect Aaliyah, Ashanti. The new school taster educating.

So when people say that, you know, they think that you are just sort of like appropriating black culture or whatever. You were a big rap fan like before any of this started happening, right?

Yeah. When I look at you and like what you're doing, it's like, no, this is a girl who was just raised on hip-hop, the same way that I was when I was a little kid. I had people saying that, yo, you're a wigger. When I was a kid, wigger was a big word that I got a lot because I was just way too into rap music for a lot of people, which especially, you know, in the 90s and stuff, it was even weirder for like a white kid to be that into rap.

I guess. I think I hear more just like a ratchet little girl rather than like a, you know.

No, I'm sure you know all the time, but you know, you, you have behavioral issues. You're just like a crazy-ass girl who was raised on hip-hop.

I have anger issues. I have emotional issues. I will be a podcast as a podcast host ass. I will argue with this [ __ ] till I'm blue in the face. Call him every new one of the Sunday minute. He's like, oh, yes, there's some back. Start crying instantly.

Really? Are you sensitive like that?

Okay, so do you think you're emotionally like manipulative? And that's nice. Okay, that's a good sense. That's a good skill to have.

What do you spend your money on now? Do you suppose?

We have some nails. It's the number one thing.

How often do you get those things redone?

Really? How many grills do you have?

I have two, but I don't worry.

Why not? Oh, yeah, you got 'em down there, huh? I just got my first grill. I was thinking about wearing it for this, but it kind of feels weird. It's all tight on my teeth. I was like, that too. If I'd stopped wearing it, you're so young. Your teeth are probably moving all over the place and [ __ ]. Like, it made the top one like push out in the hurt side. I realized I look kind of stupid. Maybe it might be a little too much.

Yes, but if I, if I really liked it, I wouldn't stop, right?

Well, that's good. Um, you know, the one thing I really wanted to point out that I didn't know until earlier today is that the, the episode of the TV show with the unnamed host that we shall not mention was actually titled, "I Want to Give Up My Car-Stealing, Knife-Wielding, Twerking 13-Year-Old Daughter Who Tried to Frame Me for a Crime." I mean, I know a lot of these like midday shows have ridiculous titles for them and stuff, but I mean, wow, what a great title that is. That, which part of it? Okay, car stealing, true or false? Knife wielding, twerking, 13-year-old daughter? You must have been younger than that then? And you tried to frame her for a crime?

What was the crime? Heroin. Heroin. Why was there heroin around?

You made heroin. Heroin crops. Very impressive. I'm gonna be honest. You know, I said I've miss flowering. What's the sugar they put on the thingies? I don't know. I've done a lot of baking powder, sugar, powdered sugar, regular sugar, and baking soda and just mixed it all together and it looked like heroin. And then you called the cops and said it was heroin. Like three lines. And I was like, my mom's a crackhead.

Well, how did you do that? What did you do?

And it was like, I'm just going her. I'm just gonna ZZZ's house. Like, I'm not doing that. Thing is, she's like, if you leave, I'm gonna get you arrested. I'm like, not if I get you arrested first. I'm a man. I was a 13-year-old. I would not have been able to create like a fake heroin setup. I don't think I really knew what that was. In touch with the streets. Wow. That's amazing.

Okay, well, is it also true that you stole a crew member's car while the episode was being filmed?

This is really, this whole interview is basically just me marveling at all of your amazing accomplishments. I mean, I didn't have to dig too deep for this. This was just like on the Wikipedia page about you, which I'm sure you're aware of. So you stole a crew member's car.

To Ravel's. What happens? Right. I was set up. How do you leave crack on a crackhead's dresser? If I had crack, I was probably dispose of it in a local garbage can or something like that. But would I leave a crack? No. I don't know. I don't know if you have, if you have like a friend or brother, whatever, that smoked cigarettes and you know, they're trying to stop and you smoke cigarettes. Are you gonna leave cigarettes in their possession? So why leave a car around a car thief? No. [Laughter] You dumbass. Beach on my [ __ ] dresser. I said to my mom, we went to this Greek place to go pick up food while they were doing lights or whatever. And I'm like, mom, lady left four keys on my dresser. She's like, you're not gonna do what I said. Got home, went, I actually lost this Coach bag. The same night I packed up my little bag and I threw it over the. When I went around the back and I, I threw the, I threw my bag over the fence and then I went back in the house and then I was like, nothing. I'd like nothing happened. Take the keys. All right. Why? I put the keys in my bag. But I went outside and I was like, cuz I used to smoke back. Thanks everyone was like, oh, he's like, I'm gonna go outside. No one's thinking anything. I mean, just walking out of the house. You just took off in the car.

Where'd you go?

You just left the car on the street. Probably should have like, driven into a lake or something. I, I went, I went, I picked him up and then we just like drove somewhere and went back and then I was like, you're trouble now. In Islip.

Interesting. So when you look back at those days, do you already feel like you've grown up a lot since then? Or are you still kind of like, yeah, I'm still pretty much the same?

Um, I think I've grown up a lot since then in different ways that you probably, you guys probably won't see. Hmm. Only people who are around me a lot really see.

I think you have to have grown up a lot to even be able to still be surviving, given how many eyeballs are on you and how many people want to see you fail at this point, right?

I'm gonna pretend you didn't just kick me in the kneecap, by the way. Kind of scared of you now for knowing about all this stuff. If you're sitting across from me at a tiny table or next to me, you're gonna get kicked. I'm just sort of swing your feet around a lot. It's kind of your thing. I got you.

Oh, but just so you feel like you've grown up a lot, or do you feel like, you know, cause like when you look back at that version of yourself, I mean, I can't even as you would be like to look back at a version of myself that young and that reckless and not lacking and knowledge about how the world works and just have to be like, yeah, you know, that was, that's that's me. Yeah. But hey, [ __ ] it. Yeah.

I know she haven't really been in them as trouble lately though. Seems like you've been keeping pretty low profile. Probation. Does that hold you back a lot?

I'd be a good kid, no matter what. Don't get me wrong, right? No, but I mean, in the sense that you'd be able to do a lot more things that would probably sort of play appropriately into like your image in the sense of just doing crazier stuff, more ridiculous stuff, but you kind of need to keep a lot of that more low-key.

No NDAs, really. So if like hypothetically, we were to like come over to filming your house, we'd have to sign NDAs about anything we saw. You take people's phones too?

If I felt like I need to say someone's funny mistake, you could either give me, oh, [ __ ] early, right?

Would you even be the one to have the conversation, or would you make Frank have the conversation?

If it was, if it was a person who like, I knew was gonna try to give trouble about it, I'd do it. But if I knew it was someone who's gonna just try to be normal, I just let Frank do it. That's what's happened.

But I like drama. Mhm. I know you're gonna start talking [ __ ]. I'm gonna just do it.

Sighs. How [ __ ] with you? Okay. Um, do you like, what do you feel like when you turn 18 or 19 or whenever you're gonna get off probation? Are you gonna go crazy? Or are you gonna hopefully stay the same at that point?

It's hard to say. I'm gonna just do what I want to do. Mhm.

You just have to rein yourself in a lot. Do you feel like you're sort of just like waiting out the time in a lot of ways because you sort of are so like constrained and how much travel you can do and stuff like that?

No. One, yes. Then you get coffee, like weed or some [ __ ] anyway. My [ __ ] possession to really. Like, I just, I was outside with my ex-girlfriend and she was smoking and I noticed a cop was following us around. Well, no, I, I noticed I walked outside and I looking on parts on her grass, a cop car. I'm like, what? So I just go back in the house. I, it's just, I just, I got out of court. I'm like, Gabby, there's a [ __ ] cop car outside your house. She's like, what? She goes outside, look, it's gone. So we go out and she's, where we're walking down the street and I notice he passes again. And so I'm like, bro, put the [ __ ] [ __ ] down, bro. And she's still like, trying to [ __ ] light it. I'm like, are you [ __ ] kidding me? And so he passes again, like [ __ ] this. So I go, I go to walk from to behind her house and she's like, like this. Huh? I go to light it and I'm like, [ __ ] that. I go like this, right? And throws it where the dirt is, not where the grass is. Mhm. He's like, it's right there. I'm like, no, it's not. I'm over here talking to most [ __ ]. Called him every name under the sun. And I'm like, I'm gonna get myself. But I'm like, still mad because I'm like, I know my dad sent you here to search for me. I'm not stupid. Really. Oh, and then I got, I get a [ __ ] rating for it. And she goes back in her house. And then, no, you're [ __ ] milk dud.

What's that mean? Milk dud? Was that her nickname or is that just a general insult for this girl?

Who is this girl? I see a bunch of men who don't seem like they want to take care of. Who's next? I was really. Yeah.

No, it's just crazy because, I mean, I got in trouble for a lot of stuff when I was that young, but I didn't get five years of probation for it. I did crazy.

Do you enjoy doing the, the YouTube thing? Because I see you on there just sort of, I mean, it's cool. You make a lot of content. I just want to be rounded. You read the comments?

Oh, no. You're talking about other YouTubers. Who do you not like? Who's a dork? Jake Paul. Rice Gum. We're friends.

Okay. Okay. That would be good. Yeah. You want me to, uh-huh. So Frank's not a fan. Her eyes got me there. All right. I mean, we're not friends like we hang out all the time. We've hung out a few times. You know, he's supposed to this podcast. You made it in here before him. I kind of says a lot.

No, no, you're not allowed to do that now. I appreciate you taking a stand on that. Now I know how to get in through the back. Mhm. Oh, we got locks. You know how to break that deadbolt?

Well, you do it. Frank. Maybe Frank doesn't run into a real fast. Yeah, actually kicked me out of a closet. My other manager, Adam, had shut the door and we're staying at this stupid-ass house that you go like this, the whole [ __ ] wall shatters. So he, Adam, slam the door, locked me in. And I'm like, frag, I couldn't open the door. So I'm just scared. Everybody comes in. He just takes the [ __ ].

You spend a lot of time hanging out with people your own age, or no?

The youngest kid I've ever hung around and thought like, you're kind of cool this way. Generous. Really. Shout out to him. Good friend of ours. Gonna meet him just on Instagram or something. When Skies released Life of a Dog Rose. Um, we were at the studio and it was him landing all those. That one, hey, Cameron, aka Cuff Boy. Everybody go subscribe to Cuff Boy on YouTube. And I was like, I know you know what [ __ ] I was up. Dork. And he's just like, you think he was a little scared to you? I could see it's kind of timid. And he went saying to me until, yeah, you know what's crazy is that you initially got famous for having a bad relationship with your mom. And he initially got famous having a really good relationship with his mom because they sit around and watch Kodak Black videos together. The first, the first video I ever seen was his mom reacting at trippy. I think it was. And then I kind of like did watch him do that until I met Skies and then I realized that Scott is new him. And I was like, okay, what is this kid about? He killed me. We can't be that much of a dork. Just guys hanging out, right? He helps guys get bigger. The big time. Yeah. He was opposed so many people watching this right now that have that like had previously written you off that are gonna be like, oh, she's friends with a little Skies. She listens to little Skies because she's friends with like a lot of these rappers and stuff. Yeah, she's probably all right. Some people think I'm crazy because I can completely understand why this, but it's like, I'm just doing what I want to do. Like, please let me ask you this. Would you say, do you think that, well, Vicki is swagger jacking you? Is she taking your image and just sort of running with it?

Oh, you don't, you spend way too much time on Instagram to not. Oh, that is. Well, what, Woah Vicky? She got arrested. Did you see that yesterday? Okay. Yeah. So if you guys not exchanged barbs publicly or anything, or do you just not want to give her the clout of acknowledging?

You know, she is. Well played. Okay. Another, another name that I wanted to ask you about. You know, Tana? Yeah. Are you friends with her? She was very excited when she heard that was gonna do this interview with you because me and her good friends. You guys should clap. That would be a great power couple. I could see you guys making powerful content on YouTube. Yeah. Show to Tana. Um, what about this? The new hi [ __ ] remix with the whole gang on that was pretty impressed by that. You got together a pretty good crew. Made in Tokyo, Rich the Kid, and A.G. These are all some pretty popular rappers at this point. Stuff. How that, how did that remix even come together?

Video with everyone like people I [ __ ] little hard, right? Like Rich the Kid off route. I was cool with in the mirror at the time. So I'm thinking I'm pushing on there because I [ __ ] with you, right? And this was when like, like this kid was just rubbing off the paint. Kid, he was a wide being him. You, he's blowing up a lot since then since that song first came out.

What people's head to get way too [ __ ] big. Mhm. People can [ __ ]. Like, you just, you. So how do I explain? Like, when you watch someone go from begging you to like, like, text them back. I can't even text you and ask you something like about like work we're doing together or something like that. Like, that's when shits like [ __ ] up. Like, it's just like your karma's gonna come back and kick you and I as hard. Real [ __ ] hard. You'll get used to that in this business. But it's like, don't like, you know, he played himself. That little boy played himself. And he's still playing himself.

Why do you feel like that?

Because his head is too [ __ ] big. His head is too [ __ ] big. Like, that [ __ ], it's gonna catch up to him. It's gonna catch up to him. He's hot now. He's got this little, little sizzle gone for him. But the way he's acting, he's just gonna die down real fast. Don't get me wrong. When I [ __ ] with man, Eglis, EI saw MJ, I, my [ __ ] with J. Hard, Nik, Namir. He just because I doing it.

You think he's a little bit. Was this a real personal thing? Did you guys are talking at one point, or was it never like that?

I mean, he had something going on in his head now. He thought was gonna happen. You could get a crush, a scene. So I didn't. So I'm just kind of like, yeah, yeah. Yes. Away from all these dudes. These rappers. No, not music. This is where your face has to be saying this. But if you have faith, test. I'm your bro. Your big brother. I am watching. Thank you. No, that's why people I say like, are you Wyatt? Man, I'm light-skinned. I say I'm clear like a [ __ ]. What's it? A flamingo? No, dad. Let me go. Damn. I'm stupid. No, those are pink chameleons. Oh, I thought it was a bird. Probably just some sort of bird that blends into right. Super camouflage bird.

All right, I wanted to ask this. What is your average day like? Like, what do you wake up and do?

When the average daily, what's a day in the life of a bad baby? I wake up usually around like 11 o'clock because puberty be like, because I just don't want to deal with people. And he's not back from the gym. So lie around that time anyway. So I just don't want to be awake.

It's like, huh? What'd you say? Yeah, Frank goes to the gym in a lot of different time periods, is what he's saying. In the background, there's no schedule. You know, they don't have microphones. So we should probably like, de-emphasize the part of us talking to them.

Okay, how about this question? How about this question? Where did the name come from? Because I know to a lot of people, it's just sort of, oh, Bad Baby. I mean, Bad Baby is one thing, but I think the H's are just very confusing to a lot of people.

I want to confuse you. I want to make you a little mind wonder because I saw. I hear people all the time. Is it Bad Baby? Is it Bad Bobby? That Barbie? Yeah, Hattie. Is that like, kind of a thing in your hood where you grew up that you just like inserts a lot of superfluous H's into words?

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I'm on it. That's pretty cool. Do you consider yourself a feminist?

What? I mean, that is a good answer, I guess.

Well, do you think that women are treated unfairly and like the music business or in the world in general?

Although I'm not these other [ __ ], so I don't know. But I know for me, no. Like that.

Well, you have a message of empowerment. It's important to you, the effect that you have on other girls, you know, just sort of telling young girls that it's okay to stand up for yourself, that it's okay to, you know, be this strong person. Don't let no female delay, no dude, only no parent, don't let no grandparent, only no dog, don't let no cattle and a goldfish bring you down. No YouTuber, no, not even Rice Gum. Don't know what you want to do. If you want to cut your hair off and tie it to your neck, do it. If you think it's good for you.

I did cut my hair off. You tie your neck though?

No, but I do have a lot of hair on my neck as well. As yeah.

Um, okay, so I have a few more questions that I

Want to ask you about what about Takashi six nine? You a fan of him? He doesn't suck, but are you a fan of the antics? Are you a fan of his insanity? You never met him. He's pretty, he's controversial. These days, I just don't really like I [ __ ] with him like that. Like, really? I think he's another one. You're 18 right now. Would your idea face that says yes? Definitely yes, for sure. Like, what? I want a butterfly right here. Okay, Playboy Cardi style. What? Well, he's kind of got the butterfly. That's sort of his thing. Also, young girls, I guess. Yeah, like teenage girls. They're into butterflies. I think. Yeah, that's cool. Um, you know, you see in the comments on Twitter that Ben Baller asked if you like PK rippers. You know what that is? No. I'm not surprised you don't know what this is. It's a BMX bike from like the 80s. Yeah. It's a weird thing that he might have even thought that you would know what that was. No, that's something he's into. You told him that he needs to make it a chain. You have like a lot. Have you done like the big chain thing yet? It's the way. I don't even wear. I'll wear posts. He can make you some earrings. I really, I really want. I really want my character. He's gonna trust jump in your lap. I already seen him bothering your management over there. No, I really, I'm kind of upset with, um, Playboy. The brand, the image, the bland, the brand. So I like have like five Playboy bunny belly button rings, couple of shirts from Joy Raze, sweatpants. All right. I have one earring that's a Playboy bunny. I wonder that's a gun. That's ones I wear mostly. But I want to get one. I'm gonna get Playboy bunny earrings made. Like blue in the eyes. Mm-hmm. That's pretty dope. Yeah. Rest in peace. You happier? You know, big changes have gone down. Actually, I also just say rest in peace. Combat Jack, Lil Peep, and Fredo Santana. We lost a lot of good guys. This year, probably some women too that I'm forgetting. Real though. Peep fan? I wasn't really like as much of a Lil Peep fan as I would call myself like a Rich The Kid fan. Versus he's still alive, luckily. I'm saying, like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't listen to music much as I listen to like other music. But, you know, that street [ __ ]. One of my favorite songs by him was, um, Witchblade's. Whitlow Tracy. Oh, amazing, right? That was classic. I swear, whatever he says, "When I die, bury me won't that." She gives me the chills. After he died, and I heard him say that, it was like, yeah. It can be tough to listen to all that stuff now, just 'cause he's like, for telling you that he might die soon. Yes. No, when he really died, I remember [ __ ]. When Fredo Santana died, I had, I barely. I had like a couple Fredo Santana songs. But I'm like, I'll show you. I'm like, let me, let me download, um, let me, let me download some, some his [ __ ]. Yeah, I can see you being a Rob my plug type of girl. You should go all the Freddie, Freddie Krueger's and everything. Yeah, I start listening to it and I was kind of like, okay, what's a street legend right there. He's a real deal. Hey, I remember, um, who was it? Was one of these low artists. Um-hmm. Who was posted? Was it RIP Fredo on his Snapchat? And I was like, no, like this, that didn't just happen. I'm looking. Everyone's like, everyone's like, um, oh, it's fake. Editor. And I'm thinking, okay, well, the person who's really gonna say something is gonna be Chief. So I got to look on there. And he hadn't been on. So I'm like, maybe he would have addressed it. Maybe Fredo would have adjusted if it was fine. But and that's when I seen like the pictures of like his, his baby, the baby mom going around. It was like RIP. I was like, oh wow. Dance. Yeah. But then, you know what? The same [ __ ] who talking about RIP Fredo are the same way drinking lean. Yeah. Have it, have it in the same Snapchat story. You have it in the same Instagram. You see in his [ __ ]. And the footage of his funeral, some of his friends were like pouring lean. Boy, I should cue him. And you the same old [ __ ] poppin' and talking about some RIP. Get the [ __ ] out my face. Don't say it. I should have figured in do's and we'll say this [ __ ]. If you're gonna drink lean, it makes you look dumb as hell. You're gonna end up just like him. I support you saying that. Is that one thing that you've always managed to avoid? It was like drug thing. I used, I used to do Xanax, but it wasn't like how these [ __ ] do it. You just stay away from that [ __ ]. I only think I really ever. Don't smoke weed. I never did none of that. I've never drank lean. I've never. That's good. Like, I've tasted stuff. But you got to use your influence to tell these young girls not to do Xanax and stuff because like weed for me was only if it was really around. Mm-hmm. I don't think anybody should be smoking when they're, they're your age. But I mean, doing like prescription pills and stuff when they're as young as you, I mean, absolutely terrible idea. You're gonna [ __ ] destroy your brain. Be responsible. Don't, don't do meth. Don't do heroin. Right? No. But if you're gonna do it, if you're gonna be not right and do it, make sure your supplier is at least sane and not giving you fentanyl. Well, that's a whole other conversation. It's an excerpt. I mean, a little peep, you know, that's what took him out. I was just getting some [ __ ] from some [ __ ] dumbass fam. That [ __ ] she's a [ __ ] like Ryan him because she was like, oh, I'm the reason he's like that. Debtor, duh. Mm-hmm. Right. I should, that [ __ ] was really crazy. Like, I did a Vice interview and they asked me about it and I was like, I just thought about it kind of like, I just thought about it kind of like this could be like, okay, someone who I'm not gonna say praises and next, but kind of a logo or it blows in. I know him. What if that was him? How would I feel about that? Yeah, those han't did the right thing though by just like sort of getting off of that stuff early on because it was like, right as he was starting to blow up, he already had sort of like made that his mission to tell people not to do that stuff. And all my time hanging out of them, I've never known him to even. I knew him like six months before he was famous, I guess, maybe maybe a year. And like, I mean, I never knew him to really begin to move in. And yes, funny [ __ ] them when I when I met him. Same time around I met Skies. These [ __ ] ditch me in a pond. Their own in Sky stations because I would really stay at his guy stations because he'd be smoking too much. Nurse. I pop in every once in a while. You just don't like being around them much weed smoke, or is it because you're scared of not passing your drug test? Yeah, right. Yeah, they do be smoking along there, huh? Well, do you think Cole should change his name to Diego? 'Cause he's been talking about it a lot. I don't know how well that's gonna sell. [Music] Hey, what'd you say? But just make sure you're saying, don't do this. I think at least for the time being, it's gotta be Lilz Nak Diego. And then maybe, you know, even say Alexander. Van. He's full Mexican. He ain't no damn Alexander. Is it? Is it not? Am I trippin'? I don't know. It doesn't sound like it. Then maybe I, hey, maybe not Diego. Diego. That sounds right. Yeah. Have you traveled outside the United States? Huh? You want to? Or this is not gonna happen. So you're older? Well, no. Let's. Or are we gonna talk about the tour? When are you going on tour? And is this just. You don't worry. We'll have the dates. My first April 15th. They're gonna get the dates for us momentarily. But okay, so what do you do on tour? I'm so. But do you just perform some songs? Or you don't know yet? Well, there's like old YouTuber style. They're going on tour where you start to stand in front of everybody and you tell some jokes. You did some weird routine. No, but you're not like. But do you see yourself being able to do like a whole rap set? 'Cause that's like, you know, its own thing. 'Cause then you have to do, you have to book or out venues and stuff. It's sort of different. Then my first show is it. I don't know how to say. Not the Observatory. The other one. The Novo. Oh, yeah. Constellation Room. Louise's Constellation Room. Yeah, sort of like that. Um, do you. So, so this is a full-on music tour? Do you know who you're going on tour with besides Agent Dahl? Really? That's so cool. You know, I was thinking about trying to set up like a No Jumper girls tour with like a bunch of, you know, pop and girls who are coming out. Like Rego Nasty. The whole man. She's gonna strip with a jugular. You really just like this guy? Huh? But in what way do you think he's like, oh girl, his actions. He's such a [ __ ] cry-baby. Well, you're going in [ __ ] way. I really can't. Aren't you the same way? You probably like everything your way. Too. Okay, you're actually a dude. Like, you got a dick and balls. Like, you can't be doing it. Maybe you guys are just a little bit too similar. No, maybe he's a little prick and I'm not. I love this beef. Do you think that there's a good chance that he's gonna write a diss song about you? You made a song with him that didn't come out, right? Yeah, I was supposed to be on No Jumper song. Oh, yeah. That's too bad. Maybe I should leak it. Sued. Yeah. Okay. What about Iggy Azalea? What made you decide to go at her? Really? Like, you know, you're kind of like a snotty-faced [ __ ] so right. I mean, she's kind of like out the game at this point. Don't you kind of feel bad for her? Like your career is way more relevant than hers right now. A peasant. Yeah. Okay, that's mean. You're gonna hurt her family. She might be crying. Should get more ass injections, maybe feel better. Yeah. Is that what girls do when they feel bad? I'm sort of like, go get some ass injections. I do my nails. Then yeah, there you go. Well, there's a few more questions I had written down here. What do you thought some Lil Pump? Are you cool Lil Pump? Have you hung out with him? What do you think of him? Was really. He's calmed down a lot. No, you had him in a while. Hmm. Not like he was like a year or two ago, man. They used to be [ __ ] going crazy. I had to call him one time and like tell him to delete a video because it was him and part poking up with his girls in the back seat of a car. And I was so [ __ ] out. That was like, they were a little too lit back when I was looking out for him, you know, they were underage and [ __ ]. At least he was. Yeah. But Pump is 17 now. I'm just still 17. But he was like, you know, almost 16 at this time. It was like 15, I guess, at the time. Yeah. What do you think of like how much Pump has blown up? He's probably like the biggest dude to blow up Walmart. And that's what you did when you hung out with Pump. You guys are both way too famous to be going playing with shopping carts at Walmart. Oh, spike. I was just trying to find clothes. Whose and this [ __ ] comes down and [ __ ] Pump. Don't shop at Walmart. Yeah, you know, maybe for food or something. Gani Molly, where's the MA Molly section? No, Lo Papa's drug-free now. 2018. Haha. Okay, bar. You like Lo Pump? Do you like going to like the Gucci store blowing [ __ ] loads of money? Or is that not cool to you? It's like an addiction for him. He's behind $3,000 pants like it's going out of style. I don't know. I get a lot of. Got about a lot of pants. So you're doubting. Well, Pump's future career trajectory, money. They do a little Pump though, homie. I'm just trying to defend him. Okay. Another person. One asked about. What about Chanel West Coast? You cool with her? Oh, this is gonna be another. I didn't even know that you guys had like a thing. But people are asking me to ask about you. Chanel West Coast from Ridiculousness and she's formally signed to like Young Money. She says, I understand you're coming from an that I probably won't want to answer either. Young Money signed Chanel West Coast. I mean, hey, a lot of labels sign a lot of people. That's fair. What about Donald Trump? A filled with Donald Trump. Does a lot of unpresidential things as well. So have you been told by like your management like don't say any specific about Donald Trump? Because half your fans probably like Donald Trump. Or is that just you just don't care? Don't care. That's very [ __ ]. Yeah, I guess the average 14-year-old. Every no flown away then. I don't care. He might. He's so [ __ ] up that he might. I like that. You are so singular. Okay, you're so singular in your interest that it's like nail salons. I care. Everything else. Yeah, I respect it. Um, yeah, I mean, that that's the majority of the questions I had written down. I just, I guess the main thing that I want to know about you is just what is the fact that you want to have on the world? And what are your plans for the next couple years? I'm I walk out of here and fall in a puddle, break my leg, and never be able to sing again. Odds of there being a puddle here in Los Angeles are very, very low. But you know, yeah. So you prefer to take life one day at a time? Yeah, I do. That's good. So you're in the studio recording all the time, every day? And so how many songs you think you have like in the stash? Too many. Waiting money. I know you just always working. Mm-hmm. Crazy. Did you have an album planned? Really? Mixtape? Amazing. That's really exciting. I'm, I think could you see yourself, you know, having, you know, probably like one of the greatest female rap albums of all time? Maybe. Maybe not coming for that title, I guess. Are you committed enough to the music that you plan on like really seeing us think through? Because like, I could see it happening or down the road and stuff. I think you're better than these other little pumps. Instagram story is better than Iggy Azalea's music. I would have beer to them. Australian. I agree. Americans. We don't want to hear people from other countries rap. It just seems like a consensus. Your big fan of him. He's from Florida. Yeah, he probably throws on the accent for the hell of it. Anyway, anybody want to thank anything that we should look out for coming from you in the near future? Oi, the tour. Did we ever find other dates for the tour? Oh, you just said you said that over there. So I figured. So now we're not supposed to talk about the tour? I got email saying make sure you talk about the tour. Come to it. [ __ ] red wig on. You put a red wig on anyway. It's been great talking to you. You're the real deal. I believe in you. I just want to say that I really do believe in you. And I believe that, you know, you probably have a very great career ahead of you. And which is some people like to [ __ ] on you, you know, I'm a believer. I wouldn't have done this interview. I've turned down interviews with a lot of sort of like social media superstar type people. But I actually, I believe that there's some legitimacy to what you're doing. So I just wanted to, you know, throw that out there. And hopefully we can patch things up with Nightmare and get that song out. But I guess that's not happening. Enough. Bye. [ __ ] that was not meant for Nightmare, by the way. Okay, take that back. Um, no jumper cool is podcasts in the world. Check us out on YouTube, SoundCloud, iTunes. Follow me on Instagram, Adam 22. I need all the clout. Thank you very much. You got 12 million or it's 600k? You know, sad that it sounds [ __ ]. Big facts. All right, thank you very much, Danielle. This has been No Jumper. Peace. [Music]