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Do you look back at the time period where you were hooking up with like Little Pump and Lil Xan as kind of being like a lost period in your life somewhat?
Yes, let's talk about it. Where was Riley at during that era? We were all over. I was just in my thoughty phase because I had just broken up with my man and like, I was just like, "I'm gonna [ __ ] all these YouTubers." And like, I was just like, "Experience, like, experiencing with myself and like, having fun." But like, in that, it like showed me how little those [ __ ] people cared about me as like an individual and like, as a person and everything like that. And you know, like Little Pump was really nice to me and everything like that, and I'm not like trying to like say anything in regards to that, but he didn't make me feel like loved or cared for or cherished, you know? And like, I don't think he's maybe even capable of that in his time of his life because he's also so young and he wants to like [ __ ] a bunch of girls and blah blah blah.
Yeah, I don't think you were gonna get that from him if that's what you were looking for.
No, and that wasn't what I was looking for at that time. At that time, like, at that time, I was just like, [ __ ] having fun. And I was like, "Oh, never, he's like a cute boy and whatever."
See, but that's the weird thing. And I think that Atlanta deals with this to a certain extent too, is that on one hand, the porn fans, they kind of just want a hoe. Like, a girl who's just full on, "I'm a [ __ ], I'm loving life, look at me, I just sucked all these dicks." But then at the same time, like, you're an actual person. And as you get older, I feel like it becomes harder and harder to ignore the fact that you are an actual person and that you have actual, like, a personality that goes outside of just wanting to be a hoe on camera. But then means in the meantime, like, you know, like you got to throw on your Spider-Man costume and go be Riley Reed sometimes.
100. Yeah, I have somewhat of a persona slash reputation of Riley Reed to uphold. But I feel very lucky too, whereas like the type of porn that I shoot, I feel like is very much me. So like my fans, at least for me, I don't speak forever. I think I'm like a one percenter in like porn or whatever. But I feel like my fans actually do like me as an individual. Like, I have so many of them who are like, "I love this type of content of you just like dancing in your living room or whatever." And like, so I feel very lucky that people do humanize me already. And I think it's just because I accidentally humanized myself in my porn by like smiling and being happy.
That's true. Because I mean, like, I feel like Elena has very much kind of uh gotten that to a certain extent where, you know, there was a point where she was maybe a little depressed about like, "Damn, like, I'm famous and I have all this money, but it's from this one specific thing that has nothing to do with who I am as a person." Like, yes, I like having sex, but that's just not the entirety of me as a person. Now she has her whole, like, mom page and she, she makes videos with a kid and people appreciate it. And like, you post stuff on TikTok with the baby and it gets millions of views. And I say that you too, where like, you know, you're dancing around in the [ __ ] avocado costume.
Yeah, very funny. That's gotta, it's gotta feel good. They're like, you know, people like appreciate you as something beyond just what you. I have had girls in the industry reach out to me and be like, "I wish I had another page where I could just like be myself." Because that's why I made my second page. I was like, "I don't want to look hot all the time. I just want to look like a regular ass person who puts on a cute outfit and goes, you know, to the store." And this is just what I look like. But yeah, it feel, it feels much more liberating.
Yeah, I mean, honestly, like my Instagram recently getting deleted like helped me kind of like get that idea where I was like, "I'm just gonna [ __ ] be myself." And like, and I'm kind of a funny person. So it's like, I'm not gonna be so like, "Hot girl." Cause like, before all my Instagrams, I was always trying to be like, "Hot Instagram girl." And I was like, "You know what? Like, whatever."
Hot Instagram girl gets deleted all the time. Yeah, it doesn't work. So I was gonna be myself and be funny and like, be kind of cute. But like, I'm kind of done trying to be like the hot girl or whatever.
Right? Because that's like a very hard standard to keep up where, like, it's exhausting. By definition, when you go into do porn, they put more makeup on you than anybody has ever put on you in your life. And they dress you in clothes that you would never wear in your whole life. And it just, it creates this idea of you. Like, remember when they used to go viral all the time, those articles of like, "20 porn stars without their makeup"?
Oh yeah. I was one of them. I believe it. My face is one of those. And I remember sharing that with people and saying like, "Look at this girl that we met in the club one time for two minutes. She looks different without makeup on. This is crazy." It's totally normal. It looks like, obviously, we were so young and naive that we like didn't know what girls looked like. We saw Kylie Jenner at the gas station. We all know we saw photos of Kylie Jenner getting into an SUV after going to the gas station. I think that's what I meant to say. Who knows where she got there.
Um, so now that you have a boyfriend and you're feeling potentially satisfied in your personal sex life, you know, the question I'm gonna ask, and are they gonna come back? Are you gonna do boy girl again?
Um, I don't think so. Really? Um, at least as long as this relationship is a thing. Yeah. For as long as this relationship is a thing, I don't think I'm going to do it.
Because is that what you want, or is it something that I want?
Okay. Yeah. Cool. And that's also where I'm really glad that I made all these choices ahead of time where like, I was already not doing boy girl for almost a year before I met him. So it's like, it was always my choice. It's like, you know, to an extent, I did choose it for like, future guy, but I also was like, "I don't want to like have sex with random strangers or like random porn boys who don't value me whether I'm just like shooting a video to make money." Because I was like, "I've made the money, I've made the fame."
You should have made her feel more loved in that anal scene. Adam, this is your fault. I should have just not said anything about the no poop. It's funny. I don't care about it at all. Like, it's a poop fest.
Um, no, totally. But I mean, when you really think about it, it's pretty remarkable because, okay, you have somebody like me and Khalifa who does a very small amount of adult content and now is still ongoingly popular, has a whole identity on social media, goes viral all the time. And she got famous off porn, but now her whole brand has nothing really to do with that. I mean, she's the OnlyFans, I don't know how hard she goes on that, doesn't do anything. Not safe. But Lana Rhoades comes out, hot girl, does a relatively small amount of that stuff, and now she's like, "Just a hot Instagram girl." And she's famous from doing all the stuff on YouTube. But you, like, dipping your toe into doing the YouTube stuff, I think was what kind of also made you realize like, "Oh, like, I don't have to just be the girl doing it."
Again, they still like me.
Oh yeah, that definitely helped me a lot. I mean, even like the podcast we did like [ __ ] million years ago and it being like one of your most viewed ones was also very helpful to me because I was like, "Wow, people actually care about what I have to say and stuff." And like, even when I did like my Logan Paul podcast, I've had girls like come up to me at like the clout houses or whatever who are like, like they're like, "Honestly, I judged you at first and we, me and my friends watched the podcast to kind of like make fun of you and like we were like, 'Wow, she's actually such a nice person and so great.'" And and like they apologized to me for judging me.
I didn't even know that they judged me. I forget that that's a thing. I'm like, "Oh, I forget that people are like, because I think I'm, I'm just such a normal regular person with a regular personality and I have this really crazy job." To other people, they're thinking, "She must be such a [ __ ] or she must be such a slave." Just a terrible human. And then when you have people tell you that like, "Oh wow, people think like that." But it's easy to forget that like, we sit around and might have a conversation about like, "Jesus Christ, you see what's happening with Kanye and Kim and rah-rah-rah." There are people who do that about you.
Oh yeah. There's people with like, and the weird thing about it too is that like, we got stuff going on, so it feels like the standard for who we're going to talk about is kind of high. But there's a lot of people with nothing going on. So if they know who you are, they might just be, you know, yapping about you a couple hours per day.
Oh yeah, yeah. My boyfriend now is getting all kinds of crazy DMs from like crazy fans or whatever.
Really? I thought they were married to you in another G-chat somewhere talking to you on Google Hangouts. Literally, one guy sent my boyfriend screenshots and was like, "Like, is this her? I've been talking to her." The saddest thing you ever see is the worst. I feel so bad for them.
Oh yeah. And then there's the crazy guy. Like, there was one crazy guy who was like, "She's my fiancée. I'm gonna come and kill you." Blah blah. And I'm like, [ __ ] we are not married. I'm not engaged to anyone.
Yeah, like some people are insane. Whoever is pretending to be me is like, "Sorry, I was breastfeeding. Couldn't talk." And then I'll be posting to my story and then it's like conflicting with their timeline of what they're talking about to this person. And be like, "I thought you were at the mall." Or "I thought you were doing this." And I'm like, "They're responding to my stories thinking that I've been talking to them this whole time." It's crazy.
Here and you talk about that because that was me. I got got when I was 19. Man, this girl was talking to me on MySpace for months. Girl, yeah. She sent me [ __ ] in the mail. She sent me some books.
You had money? What were they doing with you?
I didn't have any money. And they did not get any money out of me. They didn't even try.
Why were you a target?
That was just been lonely. I don't know. Honestly. But they had me talking to him for a few months. And like, wow, we talked about it. It was really crazy when I think about it. And then like, right when they were supposed to come visit, they just made up this crazy story. And that's when I actually thought, like, "Oh, I'm gonna figure out that like, if this is real or not." So I took the pictures that she had sent me, posted them on this message board asking people for advice. And then a couple people hit me up with like, uh, "That restaurant she's in, that's in Washington D.C. I thought you said she's in London." I'm like, "Oh no." They're like, they're like, "If she's, if she lives in London, why are there multiple photos of her wearing American Eagle?" I'm like, "That makes sense." They're like, "What about that outlet on the wall?" I'm like, "All right, so the London thing's a lie." I'm like, "Uh, yeah." I figured it out pretty soon after. I felt kind of dumb.
Oh, no. Telling your deep dark secrets at night. I don't mind. It was a good learning experience.
Yeah, I'm sure it happens to so many people. There's a lot of people just aren't nearly as savvy as you know, you would assume people are. You know, I feel bad because I feel like they're always really old when I see that when they finally do email me and I could see their little thumbnail from their Gmail and like, "Oh god, they're so old. They have no idea how the internet works." And that's why they got caught. And I feel so bad.
I feel like there's also something to say for like the people who kind of know that. Because I had one fan who reached out to me. So like, this guy, he like emailed me and was like, kind of saying he was being catfished or whatever, or he thought it was me. And I was like, "Just a very short email where, no, it's not me. Like, don't waste your money and send." Because I was like, "I'm not gonna waste." I respond to those all the time. Like, "Nope, it wasn't me." Yeah. And so then this guy, I told him it wasn't me, and he still chose to believe it was me because he wanted it to be me. And then like, I opened up my Snapchat one day for like a documentary and I was like, "Okay, like, you guys can call me and I'm gonna answer it and talk to it." And so like, I'm talking to like, he ended up calling me and he was like, "Yeah, I've sent this person like a hundred thousand dollars." Blah blah blah. "It's not me." And he goes, "Oh, I guess I can cut my hair now." Because that's how much control, like they can, they can manipulate the person. And that's how much power, like they don't have. Just power over your finances and this or that. They wanted to be able to control him even cutting his hair. Wow. And I was like, to me, that was an insane, like, the the amount of power that they try to take over these people.
We need a Netflix documentary on the people who are pretending to be us because I want to know what kind of people they are. How do they [ __ ] do this all the time?
Oh, there are documentaries. There's like villages in like different parts of the world and that's like their whole belief system is to like take from the man and like it's like their whole thing. I don't want to get into what's it called. The blank boys. I forget what it's called. But there's like a whole world where this is what they do. It's like the the the scorned lover type scam where they just convince, you know, usually it's people pretending to be a random woman. Yeah. And not a famous, not a famous woman. Which it seems like it would be pick someone else's photos. It would be a lot easier to debunk if you were pretending to be a random woman and not a famous woman. But at the same time, then if you're pretending to be Riley Reed, it's a little bit more exciting for them, I guess.
Oh, I'm sure. But then again, like, probably a lot of people getting scammed don't know that you're a famous porn star. They probably just, they're just accidentally just pitches, right?
Yeah, yeah. They might think I'm just a cute girl or, yeah. Like, what a weird world. Were they?
I know. It's so bizarre. Anyway, um, no, yeah. I just, I think it's really interesting that you kind of decided that it would be a good time to back away from your sort of traditional adult career at around the same time that COVID and every non-porn star girl on Earth decided that they wanted to be an OnlyFans girl.
Um, I guess the question is kind of for both of you guys. Let's talk about, uh, what it's been like seeing the market blow up and just get flooded.
I honestly kind of love it. I love that these women are taking charge. I love even just like the growth of like some of the girls. Like, there's one girl that I know, Kristen Hancher. Like, she's like a TikTok girl and she started off, got deleted, got deleted for. She started off doing more safer work. I don't even think she was like posting titty photos. And then like, she had a gradual progression. And like, I unlocked one of her videos. It was like her first like dildo sucking video. And I loved this video because she was just so authentic and she was real. She was even like laughing at herself while she was doing it. And for me to like see the progression of how comfortable she became with her body and her sexuality and to see how now she is doing hardcore porn on her OnlyFans, to me, I think is so beautiful and liberating. Because she started off as like, just like a clothed, you know, sexy model and she was like, "Oh, like, I feel confident in my body and I feel sexy and I want to post more and I don't care about the like structure of society. I'm just gonna [ __ ] do it." And like, to me, I think it's been really amazing that women have this opportunity in their own home to like feel liberated to like share their bodies and share themselves.
I like how it's just like ever, not, I'm not saying every single person has OnlyFans, but the more people have OnlyFans, the less stigmatizing having an OnlyFans is. Yes. And I like that there's now this platform that's like, very trustworthy. Because I feel like in the past, I would hear from the audience like, "Is this weird? Is this like a scam site? What's it going to sound like?" When it was on private Snap, that was just sort of like destined to invite people getting scammed and doing scams because it was sort of like a shady way to be doing it.
Yeah, 100. I really like it. Me too. It doesn't bother me at all. I mean, I like wish I could help more girls with their OnlyFans because I do feel bad seeing people being think like, "Oh, I'm going to jump in and get really successful immediately." But it doesn't work that way. Like, it is a job. You do have to work at it. And it's called OnlyFans, so you should probably have like, some fans.
Yeah, like Kristen Hancher was obviously super popular. She was definitely killing it within her first day of making an OnlyFans, but they already had a fan base.
Exactly. So like, I, I do feel for the people who are just like, "Oh my god, I'm gonna make a thousand dollars my first day or my first month." And then, but it is funny because what would I tell a random girl who's asking me how she wanted to get her OnlyFans popping if she doesn't know anyone? Probably the best way to get your foot in the door would be to do traditional porn. Yeah. Which is, I'm sure if you're just kind of starting the OnlyFans, that's not what you're thinking. But that's probably the easiest way for you to get famous with the type of people who will want to buy that.
I mean, a friend of mine, Ryan Reed, she, she was only doing like Snapchat OnlyFans. Yeah, she's like my, she's like my little mini. Let's keep that going.
She's your actual. She's my stepsister. And she, I get to [ __ ] her on Wednesday.
Yeah, you do. But, uh, she's super cute. You love her. But anyway, so she like started off as like an OnlyFans Snapchat girl. And then like, she got booked a couple. So she like does boy girl with her boyfriend. So she did a couple like POV boy girl scenes for Reality Kings. And she was like, "After my Reality Kings dropped, she's like, 'I got like over a thousand new subscribers.'" And so it's like, there is something to say where it's like, "Okay, yeah, you take a pay cut because you're going to get paid maybe 1200 max from this for from Reality Kings." But then you're getting all these subscribers. So it's like, yeah, they're a fan base. So I think it's sometimes it's hard for girls when it's like, "Why am I gonna make a thousand dollars when I can make 10 on my OnlyFans?" Well, it's like, well, because then if you do this thousand dollar scene, you can make 20 on your OnlyFans.