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No Jumper cools podcasts in the world. Let's start off with this topic. You can't trust a girl who doesn't have a charger. And you can't trust a girl who's walking. So you can't just any, no, she just needs to have a car or a bike or scooter or something, a bus pass. What if she's walking 'cause she just likes walking, but she also has a car? Like me. Yeah, like everybody was walking for exercise, right? Nice. 'Cause it's nice. Yeah, walk. Yeah, I'll sometimes walk down the street 'cause it would be a lot faster than me driving and trying to find parking there in the congested area we live in. You've really boiled my whole little joke. I've been talking about this whole, "Don't trust a girl who's walking" thing for a few weeks now, and you just really [ __ ] at all that 'cause you're right, exercise and it's nice. I want a girl that exercises. Come on. I do, but I just want them to do it within the sanctity of like a personal training facility. And she owns a car, but it's choosing to walk versus not having the option of driving, right? Exactly. That's what you're trying. Just see a girl walking on the street in Hollywood, I get a little weirded out. Why you walking? I mean, get a bike or a [ __ ] Lime or something.
Anyway, hi Gina. Hey Adam. Listen, you see I've been saying that you're the, the SoundCloud rapper of porn for a long time now, and I really always want to know your feelings on that. Do you believe it? Because you're from Broward County, you know, surprised on a song yet? Beat it up. Beat it up. Okay, but, but I censored it. What if I said I wrote something? If you, what if I wrote something? Do you write raps ever? Yeah, I do. Or poems? I bet you write poems. Oh, like you do. You like low-key have feelings and are emotional, right? I do, but sometimes they can be a little dotty. Like I like such like a loser right now. I feel like, not really, but like I don't really give a [ __ ]. Like everything's on the internet. Like my husband saying it all out there. It's like, yeah, so it's like I don't really care. Like I'll say like, um, I'm sad today, you know? Right? Like, like, you know, hang out. Nobody's ever surprised when the girls like, "I'm sad." If I went on my answer constraints at home today, I really like, "What the [ __ ]?" 'Cause that's like off-brand for me. But I definitely feel like people have a facade. Oh, hell yeah. This is the thing. I'm actually kind of going through that period of my life right now where all of a sudden it feels like I probably like I never have photos that I consider good enough to put on my Instagram. And it makes me feel like I just need to have like photographers around more and stuff 'cause I just like, for my birthday party selfies, stupid selfies do way better. On selfies are okay to a certain extent. Some situations are okay for selfies, but like most situations aren't. Like there's definitely no selfies I could have got at my birthday that would have been good. I got a couple good photos in the club with part, but I didn't have anything for my birthday. I actually wanted to post pictures of theirs. Like I don't know who he was, but who's taking picture of you guys? But it's naked. A cop that didn't take off? No, I mean, I just feel it 'cause it's like, oh, I had this whole birthday party and I got like two photos from the strip club. There's no photos with my girlfriend. There's no photos, you know? And I really wanted to do it, but it's just like an iPhone photo probably wouldn't have done the [ __ ] job anyway. Like iPhone photos just at a certain point, they just don't really like do the job. Anything. It's all about the lighting. For the record, Lena didn't fart. She's covering up her face 'cause she doesn't want to breathe in the back. Would smell my face, dude. A party, he said, "I'm gonna ask you about it," and you were like, "Yeah, everybody knows that." Like, secretly, they just like start smelling that. I mean, I do the cup. I'll fire my own hand, pump it up to my face and give it a whirl. You know what's the crazy thing? What I seen? So I was looking up Brazilian porn, of course, 'cause you are Brazilian. Not Mexican. Like that's a [ __ ] offensive statement. That you're Mexican. She went to Brazil for her Vixen shoot 'cause she's from Brazil. I just assumed you're a Mexican, and I'm sorry 'cause you're Hispanic in Southern California. No cowards in Broward. So tell us about your upbringing. Dark, dark. Touch. Was it that? Is that dark? There's a lot of stuff. Damn. I don't know what is starting. Well, it was like your, your family life. Don't like growing out. Did you grow up with both parents? What were your parents like? Let's go with that. Why is it that messy of an upbringing? Um, I thought I didn't know my dad. He got deported. Mm-hmm. He got caught like doing fraud and like, you know, selling coke or whatever the [ __ ]. But that I didn't know him at all. Regular Florida shoot. Yeah. And then I grew up with this guy, Luis. He's like a Puerto Rican black guy. And though your mom's boyfriend or something? Um, not my sister's dad. Okay. So like, I thought he was my dad my whole life. Um, and like then I found out when I got older, he wasn't my dad. Oh. So was that, was that troubling at all? There was, it was weird. It was it was surprising 'cause I was like, "Who's my dad?" Like, at that moment, it's like, "Who's my dad?" Like, "Daddy wasn't there." Daddy, daddy was never there. Like, I'm realizing that your dad wasn't there versus knowing the whole time that your dad wasn't there. Was that weird? I think it was. How old were you when they told you? I was liking, I was looking for 300. Fourth grade. Okay. I thought you were talking about like, isn't a dog? So Philly, by the time you're an adult, if you found out, it's kind of like, isn't it more about having the father figure, not it being your biological? For me, yeah. I'd rather find out earlier than later. Yeah, but it would be like the random phone calls and so he was like, "I just knew him by his voice." And the first time I met him, I was in Nam. I was like 12, and we flew to Brazil. Uh-huh. And like this guy was crazy. Like, if you guys knew my dad, this guy's insane. Like, he's a cool guy, but he's like a bad guy. Really? Yeah, he's like criminal. He's doing fraud. Sanko. Yeah, yeah, like he's like, he was really tied up with them. It's crazy, but he, when he got deported, he got tied up with the John Gotti. But she was like the hitman for the Gambino family. Wow. It was like a whole thing. So that him and my dad there. And so were you ever a hitman or anything? If it happened overseas, you might not be extradited. So what was your mom like? Yeah, let me cry in your soul a little bit. I don't mind. My mom, she's cool. She's like, really open-minded person. Like she was always like, she had like nudist friends, but she grew up like in the mountains in Brazil. My dad was kind of like this street kid, you know? Like he liked getting trouble. My mom was like, cancer America really young. Met him, she was a stripper. So you in strip clubs and stuff as a young girl? Did you see the game? You always say, "Shut up." And I'm so glad that we actually had a strip, a stripper pole in the house. That was cool. Yeah, yeah. So did you see a lot of [ __ ] [ __ ] through your mother? That was she like, "No, no." She was really good and like, she was really good with that. Like she would drive to Miami. Like she was like, "I did not even know till I got older." Oh, yeah. She was really good with that. But like, I was a bad kid. How so? I moved to Miami by yourself. Oh, with your mom. Yeah, like with everybody. And my whole life changed. When they say like, "I promise you," like, "If you lived in Miami, you will change as a person." Wait, so you are aware as opposed to my to Florida? Okay. And so it was like dead boring there. Yeah. There's like a whole bunch of kids just like doing a whole bunch of stupid [ __ ]. And then you move to Miami and all of a sudden she started to go crazy. Yeah. Like what? And how old were you when you move there? Like 14, 15. Okay. Perfect time. Just perfect time to be introduced to the Miami nightlife. So what were you doing in Miami that was so crazy? I'm good on smoking on camera. Wow. I just like, I don't get hot 'cause I want to be able to keep, I want to keep my mind together so I can really like, you can be incapacitated. I need to be on point. This is a federal investigation. All right. Well, I did a lot of drugs. Okay. I was drinking. How'd you start in your career of substance abuse? Was it, was drinking at first or was, been watching a lot of DJ Vlad lately, so I'm like, "Ready." I know what to say. So I say, "I always wanted to try everything once." You know, I think I'm very open-minded type race and I wanted to like experiment. So I was like, um, the first time I tried weed, I was like 12. I was like 12 years old. Any particular memories of you do? So he jumped off the roof. It was Christmas. No, the first time I smoked weed, I was so excited. I was so exactly. Like I was like, "I don't even know what weed was." They offered me. I was like, "Hell yeah." Like, guys were like asking my friend, which she was a [ __ ]. I was never [ __ ] when I was younger, by the way. Right? I was like, "Wow, wow." Keep in mind, this story is about you as a 12-year-old hanging out with a bunch of high school boys who are giving you weed. So I'm kind of like, "She was 12?" No, she was like, "Okay." I was like, "Okay, yeah." I, anyway, she had big titties. No, we all have those memories that there were girls with weirdly big boobs at a certain age that made all the other girls feel bad about themselves. That was a big part of growing up. Yeah, I remember 'cause I was, I was in like elementary school, and then we went to the junior high, and say all of a sudden there were just girls with boobs. Freaked me out. Over tea. Yeah, 'cause there weren't really girls with boobs in my elementary school, at least I didn't notice 'cause they had been slowly developing throughout my early years. Yeah, I never had boobs, really. Yeah. Is that a condition you have or something? I think it is. Did you ever join any kind of committee? Ten grand lighter. She's too good. First guy's got fired. So you start smoking weed when you're 12? Yeah, that I tried weed. Like that was like me trying weed. Like I was smoking at my mom's house, like smoking weed. Yeah. When I started smoking on my own, like, you know, on the streets or my friends, I was like 13, 14. So what were you doing like after school at that age? We're just going out and like just hanging out with all the bad kids. It was with all my homies like being mixed. Oh, they rode BMX in Bay Harbor? Really? In Miami? Yeah. So all my friends were like BMX series and would be saying God and like just get high. I can tell you from experience, they're probably a bunch of scumbags. They're still really good friends. They're still my best friends. Sorry guys, but you know, I want your girlfriends to date them. I know like I know all the [ __ ] they'd be on. You're such an [ __ ]. I love them. You say to him all the time. Yeah, yeah. I know he's an [ __ ], but define an [ __ ]. You're huge [ __ ]. What does that mean? How am I ever an [ __ ] to you? And not me. How you treat other people. It's just like, no, you come off like an [ __ ]. You know, just the way you look. Define an [ __ ] like being rude. It's not even him being rude, that's just who he is. It's Lily, he's just a nice. You still haven't told me what an [ __ ] is. Okay, open the dictionary. Right. It's gonna say it's gonna say like the thing that [ __ ] comes out of. You know, like a bully. Like a, like a bully. Now he'll attack this podcast. Bully. Son, I'm a bully. I don't think it's just that, you know. So anyway, at this moment, I would like to say this podcast is sponsored by no jumper.com. We got all kinds of new merchandise and we've been going crazy for the holidays. No jumper.com. You can't even see my no jumper shirt because it's covered by this Gucci jacket, which is not available at no jumper.com. Flex. Yeah, head on over to no jumper.com. And also, anybody who's watching this live, we will be taking donations and we'll be playing all your songs after this. After this? No, we go right back into me being. I have to get those two things out. Okay, so like, I figured that was a good time. As long as you guys were attacking my personality. No, I mean, I don't feel you mess well, but I feel like I'm probably like, less concerned with how other people feel than most other people on earth. And everything do. Yeah, I do. In some ways, yeah. I mean, I feel like not giving a [ __ ]. We're so opposite because I think way too much about how other people are gonna feel. And I actually, he's like, for the first birthday, I was like, "We don't have enough bottles." Like, I was freaking out. "We need to get everybody a bottle." He was just like, "It's okay." Yeah, it doesn't matter if they want to get alcohol, they will get alcohol. And if we get alcohol, they will drink it all immediately. Yeah, yeah. You know, yeah. Before we even got there, anyway. So you finished high school? It's not a race. A lot of people in a finished high school barely furnished. Yeah. Why? What were you doing? I had a boyfriend and it was, I was a bad kid. I was partying a lot. And I just. And what school do you have all kinds of like awful like influence boyfriends as it, as a young girl? Yes. What, what kind of stuff were you getting into as a result of these terrible men? What do you mean? I don't know. We like, you like doing heroin? Were you [ __ ] jumping off bridges and so I'm coming traffic? I wouldn't be here. I was older guy when I was really young. How old is he? How old were you? Who is he? We're gonna end him. I'm gonna set him right. Score. There's a high school, middle school. Means that you were like 11? No, I was like 14, 15. Right. I was 15. I feel like in Florida, that kind of thing probably happens a lot. With some friends and we went to hang out with some people in Florida and there was like three girls were all pregnant and all chain-smoking and I was just like, "Wow." I never really saw that before. But you never seen a girl pregnant smoking cigs? It's super hot. You gotta say. I'm a huge turn-on. Um, anyway, so how do you end up entering the adult world? I'm sure you have to answer this all the time. You know what? Um, there's a couple things that influence dates in do porn. I was curious. You always interested in porn? Um, not really. Masturbated a lot. Had like a really bad math, like 15 times a day type. Oh, so you just jam one out in the middle class or something? No, no. I would go jerk off in the bathroom during high school. Really? Yeah. I need to take those stress off. You're going through puberty, zone. You like really need to get rid of that stress. I mean, it was just me in class, she's like, "Humping the chair." Wow. I seen that. Nothing since in Florida. I would have done weirded out by that. I was so curious. Oh, she was doing. I probably would have called around in front of the class and expose during the mail. Trying to think of like, what where my mind would have been out in high school? It's like, "Oh, let's tease her." She did something weird. Anyway, so you're, you were interested in it. I was curious about it. I was hanging out with my friend who was a male talent, and he was friends with Bruno. Oh, so he's friends with Bruno? I didn't know you're gonna name drop Bruno. If you're gonna leave that out. Okay, okay. So you're hanging out with a guy who was working for Bruno, filming scenes. Yeah, Bruno from Groupie Lost. Was a Groupie Lost at the time? Okay. Who, for those who don't know the connection here, and this is why she's a sound clever, is that Bruno was ex's original manager and has been like quite involved with the careers of a lot of different people coming up out of South Florida. So it's only appropriate that he kind of help you get you in the game, know what I mean? Yeah, I do. I do. But like, it was a different situation. Okay. But yeah, so you were hanging out at the, the Bruno lair. Did you, did you start filming a shitload of scenes at that time or what? No, no. I was like, I was living at, like, I left my mom's house. I said, "Living at Bruno's." Us. Okay. Beginning, I was stripping, dancing. Oh, so you're dancing before? Oh, yeah. Did you start doing that like as soon as you turned 18? Okay. Like as soon as you turned 18, I was stripping. That, what did you enjoy it? I was so shy. I was so nervous, of course, 'cause there's like a whole bunch of older guys looking at you. And I'm like, it was tit see. So I was like, in full new club. Yeah. And so like, I would not take off my panties for. They were so scared. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. But it was crazy because like the time person I am, I like to be pushed. Like I like to like see what happens. I want to be put in like situations like that's it. I don't know if that's bad, but well, that's kind of how you view sexuality is like a challenge. Like, yeah, you want to just keep going crazier and crazier. Huh? Yeah. Yeah. And so we don't really like the extremes. No, we've talked about it. I'm not like, like crazy like, you know, Adriana Chechik. What does she do? This super crazy, like triple and you know, like gangbang like, no triple anal noted. Yeah, yeah. I'm done crazy stuff, but not triple anal. Yeah. So I was living at Bruno's house. I wasn't doing porn. I was just like hanging out with the. Well, I got curious and I was like hanging out their house or whatever, and then I was like, "Yeah, I'll do it." Like, "I'll just do a scene." And usually, it's funny 'cause this is the only interview I've ever said it's 'cause usually other interviews people asking about my first scene and I'll be like, "It was reality kings." So my first scene was very creepy list. And it was a with a rapper. Oh, Eddie Baker was there. He was there. It was like for his, it was it was Eddie Baker show and it was like with Matt Singler. Then they are wrong. Yeah, from really loud. It's crazy. So this is crazy. So sound clever ever? Yeah, I got. But yeah, it was just like way back like four years ago. So my first thing was Ray Bruno and this is when Matt, Matt and what's his name? Tariq. Mmm. Tariq. Feel terrible. Terry. No, you're right. Because previously he has not been stoked on me saying Tariq. I believe Tariq. I think it's not to read because that's what I always want to say to me in my head. It's Tariq, but it's not. It's Tariq. Hey, I think God. I hope small venues so they see like, "Host, Puya, Fat Nick, X, and all these kids like in Florida." And uh, so Bruno was good friends with Matt. And so the first scene was with Eddie Baker, but they used to do a whole bunch of stuff with them. So Puya and all them were like doing videos and we were always around them. And so the first video was that. And so it was kind of like we were groupies. We wanted to meet them. And that first thing I got [ __ ] wasted 'cause I was nervous and I didn't give a [ __ ]. Like it was like, you know, we're on a show like girls like we were late, like we were getting late. It was a nothing bad. And then we went on the party bus and then we just started [ __ ]. And he was like, "It's cool." 'Cause I don't know who edited the video, but it's like, "Kind of lit." But it's crazy 'cause I look. Was it like an orgy? Like, um, no, it's just like me. Like I cut, like two other girls and like two guys. You guys, this is still online. People can still see this? Yeah, yeah. That's like your, your key card. Yeah, this is like, and let me tell you something. This is like the worst I have ever gotten paid ever. Like, first scene. Every day. Let's hear it. No, 'cause I mean, there's, it's not uncommon for girls to get what, like 300 bucks or some [ __ ] for a first scene when they first enter. Bucks for my first scene, and I [ __ ] two guys. And I was like, it was just crazy. I was doing so much. And you got so drunk. And I was like, and the crazy thing is, I was a surprise. I was like, "Whatever." Like, I was like, "I survived." And I was good. So I could do anything. You're like, $300? I'm buying an Xbox. Would you make more than that in a night stripping? Oh, yeah. Easy. Oh, [ __ ] you. From the beginning, you made more than that stripping? Oh, yeah. Okay. I mean, it, Len. So that's why it looks like way worse when you're like, [ __ ] it, [ __ ] two guys. Yeah. Anyway, situation I was in, like being filmed, being put on the internet. It was like a lot of stuff like that. It was like, did you regret it immediately or something? No, no. I did. 'Cause it's like, it's exciting. Was crazy. Well, it's like a weird, like experience 'cause it's like, you're doing something you want to do, but at the same time, you know that like your parents are gonna find out, that all the girls are with the high school [ __ ] on Facebook, and you're gonna do that transition 'cause you're a regular person, and then you're like, transitioning into this different identity. Yeah, right. So was that tough at first, or did you go, did you start doing more scenes right away? Yeah, I think I was an extra. Then I became an extra for like reality kings. Like it was like completely different. All right. Like officially, they paid you more than $300? Ashay, right? And you're just, yeah, I just know having. So how do I start to develop until I being a more well-known person in the porn world or the person who's been in try? You just kept doing it. Yeah, yeah. Like today, every day. So you've been doing this for three years? Yeah. And there was never any, were there any like big breaks or like times where your career sort of exploded or got bigger or something? Yeah, it's like certain scenes or something I do, or, um, it was definitely saying scenes like, like just, uh, I don't know, like being at certain places. Like when I met you guys, people like, "All my friends started going crazy." They're like, "Oh my god, I don't mind." It was like Adam, Lena. Really? Was the first time that we were like, seen hanging out together at that tan of the video shoot. The wheel ran. You guys were all drinking lean, and I was like, "Damn, any girls who drink lean are cool." About me? Oh, no, no. That night, it was a Dex video shoot back here, and you showed up. Morgan and Adria. Yeah, we all like kissed. I believe, right? Yeah, that was Liz. It was a Wednesday, and I was concerned with the drinking 'cause I have to work out. Flex. I remember the doubt that was like, very early to me. Like I was like, "I can't believe we're shooting a famous Dex video back here." And now I would, I was like, "When the store opened?" Yeah, he was cool, man. Honestly, it's crazy 'cause I met so many rappers and I didn't know who they were. It's like, I didn't know. So I didn't care. I was like, "Oh, he's cool. He's like super nice." I meant Luzi. I didn't know who the [ __ ] he was, right? Like, it's crazy. Like, when was that? That was a, I was chilling with the Jared West Coast carrier like beggin day when I was 18, and he's a homing, and like we would used to just show with him, and then we went on his tour bus. I don't know, 'cause he's like giving me to all these people. Uh-huh. So we just met him, and I, he was with his ex at the time, and I was like, "Oh, I like your hair." And like his purple hair cousin at one point, and like just gave him a hug. And I was like, "Oh, what?" So just talking, and then I, at that, I thought that he felt awkward, and then he left 'cause then, like, I don't know. I feel like whenever you intimidating, you're bigger than he was. Like I was just talking to him like, "Whatever, I'm a." Versus, "I don't know who little people was when I met him at a house." You probably met Pete before he was like that famous. Yeah, he wasn't that famous, but I also, I had no idea. He was just this shy kid, and I told my, "Didn't know Suicide Boys were like [ __ ] with me right now." I was like, "I know, I really don't." 'Cause it was just unthinkable to me that a girl was trying to hang out with me that didn't know who Suicide Boys. DMs. She was looking for some dick. Absolutely not. Real. I have the supply. Offered it up. Absolutely. Somebody asks me that question, I was like, "I think it would see like the DMs or something." But it was, I reached out some for work one time, man. I was a fan. I like the [ __ ] pocket. I like the EDM interview did with Dillon Francis. We've been there before. Okay, this why I don't know about any rappers 'cause I liked your freaking EDM energy, right? So anyways, rare circumstance. Gina, yeah, we went to that party that you guys threw. Oh, the jungle play. The jungle party. Where's the jungle party? You stuck your hands down her throat, and this video started making out, right? Like everybody. I know. I'm always using crazy things. I started talking. I just like told her, I just mentioned something that I had done with a girl who was at the party prior, and that was like, "Oh, cool." I don't know. No, I didn't care. What are you saying this right now for everybody? Please. I was off thirty Molly's, and I just was talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I got my Snapchat deleted that night too, 'cause you were sucking my dick while another girl hit your ass. So if I go all the way back, my phone, I can still find that video and be like, "That was hot." But I would not do that again. What Snapchat or anywhere on wolf? Snapchat or Instagram. I'll put on my private snap. Yeah, no, they would. But do I really want to like start competing with Lena? I think I started podcasting sort of private snapchats. The race. Yeah, I mean, like, I'm a Protestant, but am I gonna use an element? And how often about doing anything sexual? I mean, it would be a great way to get you to like, bring more girls around stuff. Like, "Babe, I, you know, I'm just saying, like, if I need a concept for my private snap." No, but just hit up your friends. They have a whole bunch of [ __ ]. You're good. Never like a slide thing with me. Don't take over all my Snapchat. The rappers are always asking me for [ __ ] 'cause I know porn stars. And it's like, like, you think these famous porn stars want to hook up with your mid-ass? Like, you got 40k and it's all fake. And it's just kind of like, you know, it's like if it was 21 Savage, like, "You don't introduce me that girl." I'll be like, "I bet it's like, I would assume it'd probably be a good reaction." Yeah, it's always power. Could just DM the girl. I do hit up porn star girls about my friends who want to meet them. When, when they, I think it's a good idea. You know, you're the matchmaker. I don't want to like pass you a dude that wants to meet up with you if I think that he's just a thirst ball or if he's a friend. I mean, I'm down, but don't you feel like you could just DM one of them or that I'm just so lazy? I tried, and then one of them got really upset about you hanging out with me. And I know you really never lose that. Weird for you. It [ __ ] sucks. Yeah, it's when you choose us over him. Anyway, I mean, in the long run, huh? Do you like him? Like I did? I didn't know that. There's a whole missing piece of the puzzle. You guys weren't like seeing each other anything, right? Yeah, we were like that. Yeah. For how long? Since we introduced you guys. Well, now I don't want to say somebody else. Somebody else got mad at you about hooking up with us. Yeah, I think looking about people are just like, 'cause it's just like, I don't think, man, but people are just like, put off. Put off. Of course. Why? Just 'cause they're jealous? No, 'cause it's like, you're like somebody like image in the, in the culture, in the whole industry, 'cause it's out there. There's like, "Oh, like, you know." No, I get that. Yeah, like I respect about. Like, I don't give a [ __ ]. Like, most of these dudes [ __ ] [ __ ] anyway. Like, you [ __ ] everybody I know. Yeah. And the reality is that like, do these guys know that there are literally videos of you having dicks put in your [ __ ] on the internet that they could watch? Yeah, because that to me is probably like more of a thing than you sleeping with me and her in private. And it, but when we [ __ ], it's like we're [ __ ] as friends. Like we're all just, no fun, you know? Like when I said, you know, like, "Kiss her." I'm like, "I like, you know." That's the difference. I feel like a lot of people like get that confused. Like, yeah, in life, like people who just think like, like, "Oh, sex like means I really [ __ ]." Like, like you, it's like a game. Like I've hung out with people like, and like people who are up there and they have like this crazy lifestyle and everybody's [ __ ], everybody's kind of like free. Like, it's, it's like a free thing. Like, you know, it's nice. Like there's no judgment. Like everybody's cool. Like, [ __ ] who you want to [ __ ]. Like, you still got love. Everybody's gonna respect you the same way. And it's not like a disrespect [ __ ]. Like people like have like this tissue spike towards like just hot sex or like [ __ ] people like just going around. Like, I, I don't know, that's weird to me. 'Cause actually, I feel like you and Riley are the only girls. I mean, Lena, like she wouldn't really care about us hooking up in almost any context. Oh, yeah, we all like [ __ ] like because it's a regular thing. It's not weird. Well, 'cause we love Lena. Actually, what he wants. What it's, don't matter. No, I'm just saying it's not like a super regular thing. I'm saying, what sucks your dick together like two days ago? Right? Those true. I don't know. It was hot. It was my birthday. Oh, boy. So conversation. Um, okay, so I feel like I'm getting high again. Gina, you are sound con opera. Only because you literally don't stop smoking the whole time. You are a nun. 'Cause you are the only person I know can't handle being around weed. Just get high. Would you be interesting with you? No, Bruno deserves credit for turning out girls like you. Annabelle. Um, somewhat. Yeah, yeah. He never, we was not like we were never that looked like we were close enough to where I lived at his house and like we would have conversation and we go out. I would go out with his girls, but like he would never like [ __ ] me like that. Like he never did anything to me. Like I've worked at him. Did he like convince you to get into the business? Huh? No. I guess I feel like that's kind of a thing in the porn ro. There's like, whoever like the first person to get a girl into porn is like a big claim to fame afterwards for that dude. I don't believe you. No, no, but I'm saying that's how they treated. Yeah, that's what why taking a girl's virginity, but on like a more public scale, like a [ __ ] do that, right? Like you feel me? Like I wouldn't have gone there and if I didn't want to, but there's so many like impressionable young 18-year-old girls who you don't think so. I was like super like bad when I was dating a [ __ ] 2001 yield guy when I was like 15 years old, a 14 years old, like, right? I was ready like corrupted. Like, like you, me, I was curious. And then seeing that [ __ ] was crazy, like, you know, like was just like different. And you know, it's just like, I wanted to experience life and that's what I did. Like it's like being an avatar and like this world, and you're like, "I get to do it." If I got, what I like. Do you think that you were too eager to like do all of the bad things and might get out there? Yeah, that's probably like, if I would never have kids, like, 'cause I don't think I'm gonna example. But that doesn't mean you can't. Yeah, yeah. But I just, I don't think in life I'm a good example. Like, here, only 21. Gina, give us some credit. Yeah, you're a baby at the beginning of your life. I believe in you. I don't know. For me, it's like, when I was younger, I very much like had that mentality of like, you know, I think the idea of having kids seemed impossible because it's like, "Oh, you're like bringing them into this fucked-up world." And then as time goes buddy, realize like, "That's not that [ __ ] up." Everybody's just [ __ ]. Yeah, it's what's fine. Like you survived, get over it. Like, yeah, the world you're bringing her, the world you would be bringing a kid into is better than like any scenario for any other person I've brought into. You've lived a great. Okay, like you're gonna die tomorrow. You never know. When did the bags start to get right? In terms of porn, the first day, not that $300, you still needed $300 bucks at the time, kind of, right? It was just like, we didn't discuss about. Yeah, we didn't discuss it. I'm talking about like the situation I'm in today is not the situation I was. This is like, it was crazy. Like, "Hey, you wanna do it?" Boy, I was like, "Okay." When did you make the move to LA? But I think when I start feeling like real porn, it was like five, six months I've been shooting a floor. Oh, really? I was living in Florida shooting porn for like five months, five, six months, and I started flying out to LA and I'm flying back to Florida. I'm flying to LA to Florida. And then you're like, [ __ ], I'm like, "I can't." Like, "I'm working too much." Right. Were you always like, just working as much as you possibly could? You know why? It's like, like having an agent, you know, they just are booking you like crazy. We're just [ __ ] crazy targeted thing. Really? Yeah, because it's like, it's like oversaturating or like, you know, but that's probably why I became so popular because you just start flooding the market. Like I look at the rapper that you are, put out a lot of freestyles. Okay, so what do you consider your major like accomplishments or accolades in the porn or like things that you've done that you're proud of? The year, really? No, no. Yeah, well, you recently this year, well, talking to Mike, babe, Angel King for Young AMAs video. Wow. That is an important thing. You were on set for the Young Emma's directorial debut, right? Cool. What was it like? How did this propose to you before it happened? Um, they just actually wanted me to be the, the main kid, like the main role. And so I was like, "Yeah, for sure." Is it? I just got a phone call. I call her husband. Point home. And they're like, "You and shoe." I was like, "Yeah." And then they showed up. She showed up with all her boys, and like everybody was drinking. They were like, "Gangly unsaid." She was with all dudes. Yeah. And they were all drinking heavy. Yeah. Well, I drank with too much honey this this weekend. It's like, just honey does not sound good right now. Yeah, my [ __ ] head is still like, "No, don't drink." Yeah. A lot of wounded soldiers. A lot of my friends have a couple of rough days after that. One had to tow his car. True. It's weird how you have a birthday supposed to be this like big celebration, everything supposed to be so great, and then you want to kill yourself for day afterwards. IV doctor. She's baller. She's. If she wakes up and she was a half hangover, at boom, IV doctor. And it's so sick. She's fully got me addicted to it. So basically, tell him how it works. This person comes to your house. I'm gonna have like an nurses license or something. They hook you up with the IV, and it just gives you like a bunch of water right into your bloodstream, all these vitamins, and if they have anti-nausea in there, and anti-inflammatory, so you just like, you're hanging Leo. It's [ __ ] cold in here. Cold. I'm like shaking. I think you're just getting cold 'cause you're nervous 'cause I'm asking about the dirty, filthy depths of your porn career. Cut with his huge lights everywhere and stop. I could turn the AC off, though. Well, not really, 'cause I'd have to like make somebody. Let's go do it. But, um, they might be listening. I feel like I'm kind of forcing you to examine things in your, your upbringing that you were like, not really thinking about. No, I just don't talk about those things. Mm-hmm. Well, we can talk about like, right now, what's like the best thing that's happened to you because of the porn thing? What haven't 667k on the gram? Is the best part. We gotta get somebody to get you like a proper Instagram at so that you don't have to be real Gina Valentina anymore. He was like, "Scoot in a little bit more." And also, the best part of this whole podcast was when you put your hair behind your ear, because for a minute, at the camera angle, you look like Cousin It, 'cause her hair was completely covering your face, like your whole face was covered up like a frickin lampshade or something. What, what, um, what do you feel? What, what I like this, the things you've done in porn that were like challenging? Never done DP. Oh, no, no. Why not? Some girls just do that right away. Too much. Too much stuff. Too much. Like, like my, like that's like one guy here, one guy there, and like in my head, like, "Oh my god, like I'm getting [ __ ]." You've never done it in your personal life? No. Okay. You think people really do that? Think I'm like, "Hey, you guys [ __ ] me like two guys like you and your best friend, let's go." Have you said this, man? Chris Long. I'll be like, "Alright, but let's see." That's what I want to know. I want to know if that would bother me. It would bother you? You think? Yes. We watching it form, and I didn't realize like there's gonna be some, think there was a guy spitting and a girl spitting in the guy's mouth or something, and you turned it off. You're like, "This is weird." There's something really vanilla, and you're like, freaked out. I'm not freaked out by a girl spitting in a guy's mouth, but actually that does sound how I go. Yeah, my mouth the other day. You like pulled it wide open. Look like you get them. I guess I'm [ __ ] up, but I love like dirty [ __ ]. Like I look, I want a guy to like spit in my mouth. I like so we're like been like, just like your roommate. You were making me feel weird 'cause I told you I like hardcore stuff, but you say so. I would never like, what do you like? I look at rough game things sometimes. Oh, really? I'm just curious to watch it, but I would never want to do it. Yeah, obviously. It's [ __ ] fantasy. That's how you watch it. That's like we do it for you. How many guys? Oh, man. 15. 15? Yeah. Yeah. Let's go watch that. You wanna watch it? I don't. Let's watch my friends' porn. I can't [ __ ] you so many things. Is like, when they get on set, I just kind of let go. Like, you know, you get thing, just let go. How much you get to suck? 15 days. A lot of money. How much? I can't tell you that. Really? Yeah. I know how much Riley got paid for a gaming. People not gonna say no, but I'm just saying like, you know, I feel like a lot of girls are pretty open about that. But know about this time on a on a podcast, it's a long place to say outing Riley. We care about that. Just saying that when you're, when you're, I have a situation where you're dating someone. Touch me. What your big mouth? Perez Hilton. Do you see what he does for a living? Obviously. Do you know you dating? I know she's been in denial for years about what. About. And also, I didn't say it. So you're getting, you're literally railing against me right now about something that I did not do because I did not say me acknowledging how that I know something is very different than me saying the thing. This is why my grandpa podcast. No, because I mean, I didn't say it. I'm not you. Oh, yeah, I can put it down that. But 15 gag blowback. I feel like a lot of people are very curious about what that might be like. I don't think I've necessarily interviewed a girl's talked about that. But was is there? It's like, what's going through your head on like, dick six draw at that point? No, I just like, I said, just like go. Like, I just don't like, just don't care. Like I just go with it and do they come out like five at a time like a basketball game? This is what I say. What I got sound like guys just go for it. Like you guys can't [ __ ] me, but you guys can like use my hands, using about, put your fingers in whatever hell was. You guys can and entertain yourself. Like you very like, go for it. Entertain yourself. Yeah, yeah. I love that attitude. It really feels like that's how more people should look at the world. Let's just go crazy. No, 'cause we're interviewing Nicolas Chase. She said something that really like stuck with me. She said, "I have a very open-minded policy on sexual harassment." I tell people, "Just go for it." The whole time, not at that point, like, you feel me? Like obviously, like I'm not gonna go into public and like [ __ ] like.