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[music] [singing] But I still think it denies the normal definition of the word.
Okay. Well, I didn't I didn't make the claim that the normal definition doesn't mean that. That was the whole that was that was the whole point of what you agreed with me on.
You said that Oiden does not mean a cognitive knowledge. That was your claim and that was refuted by the BDAG host. If you can if you can put me up on the big screen, I'll show you. I'll prove it to you right now.
Yeah. going to play my video afterwards, Mike, because like I don't want to I don't want to go back and forth on the video because remember on the video and I could just recap it on the video I said that there was that I oversimplified the argument when I was talking to that person.
Yeah. And I appreciated that a lot.
Okay. So then what did I say in the in the regular video? And this is what I've been explaining to Jay. I don't we don't I don't I don't hold that the definition means exactly that. But that is what not anymore.
Okay, here we go. I I don't know about Matthew 24:36. No, no one knows the the hour. Okay, not even the angels nor the sun.
Yeah, the definition of this word, okay, is to have information about to know. And specifically through what? Through what?
And specifically where this puts it, where it cites this specific can you can you pull up the definition again because it's right there. Yeah, I'm trying I'm trying to pull up the second part. Here we go.
Oh, right where your head is. You're blocking it.
What? Every time I keep trying to cover There we go. So, you notice how it cites the verse there, Matthew 24:36. And it says to know something.
Okay. So, the word means to know. That's what the word means in the dictionary. So, can you provide one lexicon?
Like, are you just ignoring? Am I muted or something? No. Are you ignoring my question of knowledge?
Mike, if you're going to ignore my question, bro, this is going to go bad for you, bro.
What do you mean? You're ignoring my question.
No, I'm not. I'm I'm clarifying. It's a knowledge through what? You're not You're not giving the whole information.
Knowledge through what? The mind.
Okay. Cognitive knowledge.
Hey Jay, can you can you actually you know what? Let me get on my computer. Just fry this guy. Okay. Because even in your video, you were covering up on the B Mike, what chapter in verse, Mike? Who's the book? What book?
No, no, no.
Listen, listen. This is very simple. I don't know why you're laughing and walking all over the place. You're claiming that Jesus actually knows, but the definition of the word know literally means to have information about.
No worries.
And there you go talking over me again, Bear.
So Jesus does not have the information. That's what the word know means.
Okay. Mike, what book, chapter, and verse, please?
Matthew 24:36. I'm citing the BDAG, which is the Greek English lexicon of the New Testament. This is an authority. It's this is the most widely used lexicon by scholarship. Give me a second. My laptop's loading up.
Bingo. Right there. You see, look, it cites it. Matthew 24:36. to know to have information and that was that's the specific citation. Okay, if you look at the general, it falls under definition one to have information about. Okay, so what the host says Jesus knows the hour. What beers claims is false. Completely false. All right. So can you show me one lexicon one which says that the word no can refer to anything else but having information about something.
Give me one second.
Hey Jay, by the way, can you do me a favor on my mod? Can you give me access to all recordings, please? J by the way.
Uh, yeah. Yeah, I will.
Thank you. While we're waiting, I'll go ahead and add in that if Jesus knows, then does that mean that the angels also know? That do do they also know? Is when it says no one knows, do all of them also know? Like this guy, look at his face. He says Jesus knows. He said that no one knows. Not the angels nor the sun. So if the son know, do the angels and everyone else also know? Okay, let me get the big screen when I asked you through what? It's a cognitive knowledge through what? This is the This is the word.
Yeah, I just Yeah, you're using Bible Hub. I just showed you a scholarly lexicon.
You deny this.
No, I'm not denying it. What I'm show I have a better lexicon than you. Why don't you address my lexicon?
I am going to address it as soon as we clarify this. You shouldn't because this is not a defeater to to what you're claiming. But I'm just being very clear because I'm going to show you how this bakes you. But this word is a cognitive knowledge. Ado. That's why right here it says to know. But in your video, if you allow me to finish, Mike, if you allow me to finish, that would be nice.
My bad. My bad. You're right. I did cut you off. Sorry, Bear. So it is to know but it's through a specific mechanism as to what to know which is what.
What does it say?
You're talking about seeing I understand this was I told you you gave.
Is this a knowledge is this a knowledge through a perception or to be made aware or cuz it doesn't need to be a visual see it could be something like uh a revelation or understanding right?
Of course that's what it means like when somebody says I see what you mean.
Exactly right so that changes absolutely nothing. Okay.
Perfect. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. The the rhetoric is trash. Now watch this.
It changes nothing. What's that change?
No worries, brother. No worries. Hhabibi. Relax. We've been doing this all night. We've been.
I am relaxed. You just got baked by the lexicon, please. All right. To see. Got it. All right. How's that refute this?
Now, Mike, do lexicons give semantical meanings of words?
Yes.
No, they don't.
Yes, they do. If I say they include the entire semantic range of a word. Yes.
Yeah. No. So if I say for example.
For example Mike let me give an example. Stop being childish. Stop laughing and just deal with like a like a mature conversation.
I'm dealing with it right now.
Okay. All right bro. No worries. Now, if I say you and I are going to compete in something and I say I'm going to unal alive you the kword and we are to take every word from my transcript of what I said and we define the word the kword. What is it going to say? What I meant in that statement or is it going to say taking a life?
I mean it's probably going to give you a simple definition but like my lexicon provided it gives you the whole semantic range. Shall I pull it up again? Did you just not see that?
Hold on. Were you not seeing where it shows all the semantic uses of the word?
Do you understand? Do you understand my point?
That the context will give you the full semantical range of what how this word could be used? Correct.
Sure, that's fine. What you have to do is prove how it doesn't mean that he doesn't. And that's what I'm about to do. So when we keep reading like for example in Mark 13:32, be on God. This is after the verse, right? Where you says he doesn't know the hour.
Correct.
Okay. 33. Be on guard, keep awake. Who is he talking to?
His disciples. Right.
Exactly. Okay. And then 34. And then be on guard, keep awake, for you do not know when the time will come. Okay. That's 33. 34. It is like a man going on a journey when he leaves home and puts his servants in charge, each with his work, and commands the doorkeeper to stay awake. Now in this analogy, there's a man with servants. He's the master of the servants. Who are the servants in this in this parable?
[snorts] Now, now all all Now the chirping ain't happening. Mike, who are the servants in this parable?
Well, I'm I'm actually busy making food. I'm trying to double this here. I'm I'm [laughter] reading it.
Now. He wants to pick food. No, no worries, brother. Who are the servants in this parable? It's okay. You can say it. It's not a trick question. No.
It's it's pro. I'm not sure. I'm going to make sure I'm before I answer. Right. Okay.
Let's go to verse 33.
Is that all right? So, is it is it still the disciples?
I'll help you cuz this is not a gotcha moment. I'm not going to win the debate if you admit this. This is just just comprehension. So, 33 it says be on guard and keep awake. Who is that giving command to?
So, I I think I answered that one already, right? The disciples.
We're just going to redo it again just to just to help you because I'm I'm giving you hints here.
Be on guard. Keep awake is too.
Because you're struggling. You're you're very you need to give a dictionary that [clears throat] I'm shivering right now. I'm I'm shivering. Can you please answer can you answer the question the.
Thank you. Thank you very much. And then here the servants are given a command the doorkeeper specifically to stay awake. So in this parable, who are the doorkeepers and the servants?
So I just told you I think is it is it still the disciples? Those are the ones that he puts in the servants of his home.
Let's let's use your reading comprehension. What who do you think this is?
Can you scroll out a little bit? Let me [laughter] see the whole thing.
Bro, we can hear you typing. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.
In my kitchen right now. Okay. Answer the question. Answer the question.
What are you talking about? The question.
Move the phone. Who are these people?
So that I can read the thing.
Who are these people, brother? Who?
Yeah. So, I already answered you. I said, "Is it still the disciples? Are they still."
No, no. No, that's not an answer. That's asking me a question. Who do you think it is?
Yeah. Yeah. That's That's correct. So, I'm I'm trying to work with you here. Can you pull it out?
I just to be clear, I just want to be clear. You agree with me that this is [clears throat] the disciples, correct?
Sure. Yeah, I'll say sure. Who's the man going on a journey?
Uh, probably Jesus, right? He's getting ready to go away.
Beautiful. So, Jesus is the master, right?
Yeah.
Okay. 35. Therefore, stay awake for you do not know when the master of the house will come in the evening or at midnight or when the rooster crows or in the morning. So, he's still now talking back to the disciples to stay awake because you do not know when the master of the house is coming. Who's the master of the house?
That's going to still be Jesus, right? He's the master.
Now, in a in a parable of using masters going back to their homes with servants, does the master not know when he's going to come back home?
No, because Jesus just said he doesn't know.
I just want to know in a parable.
Is the four. You said that the father decides. Is there any scenario that a master will not know when he's going to come back to his home?
Yes, there is. There is because Jesus is the master.
No, I'm not talking about asserting how you're interpreting this. Anybody knows? Listen.
I'm not talking about how you're asserting extremely Listen, what you're trying to do is you're giving a bunch of Mike,
Why cutting me off? I let you finish. I'm answering. You're not going to assert the definition. You're not going to assert your interpretation into this.
Assert a definition of the word no. Yeah. Okay. Here we go. Practically speaking, is there any scenario that a master would not know when he would come back to his home?
Who just muted me? The answer is yes. There is a place. There is there is a place. Yes, because Jesus is the master.
Get the hell out of here, bro. [laughter] Get the hell out of here, bro. Get the hell out of here because Jesus doesn't know the hour. So, this is the one scenario that I'm trying to assert, bro. Get out of here, man.