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A Strange Thing Happened At Charlie’s Funeral... Plus, A Shocking Medical Examiner Report. | Ep 368

Candace Owens54:33

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All right, you guys. Happy Wednesday. I hope you're having a good one. And what can we say after yesterday other than stating definitively that this little clip did not age well at all?

"Do you believe that Tyler Robinson murdered your husband?"

"Yes, I do."

Never understood that confidence, that conviction after I sat down with her. There was no evidence which indicated that. Now we are all the way at the preliminary hearing. I still don't understand that confidence, and just, I think the internet is with me on this one. Internet, I can say definitively, especially after the exclusive video that we released yesterday, has a lot of questions. It was an incredible, by very fun time on X. Very fun time to listen to all of the people, the mockingbirds, attempt to explain away what we can plainly see with our eyes, or what we plainly do not see with our own eyes. It's just something to behold. They think they can do it.

Well, there's a lot to discuss today because yesterday also [laughter] the big thing happened. The prosecution filed a memorandum. And in the memorandum, actually, I'm sorry, Tyler's defense filed a memorandum. They highlighted some injuries that Charlie had in his autopsy. Charlie's heart and his lungs hemorrhaged after a bullet hit him in the neck. And so, people online are asking a lot of questions about those injuries. And of course, everyone is going to draw different answers and conclusions. But first, I want to discuss a most important question. Whether or not Charlie Kirk is buried. Because an interesting thing happened apparently in those days where we saw Erica after we saw Erica leaning into his casket. So, welcome back to Candace. [music]

There was a lot of what the kids are calling copium online yesterday. As expected, the "Candace never has any evidence" crowd. She is just dreaming. Oh, she's just up on her show every day pretending to dream. They were not having a good evening on social media after our episode. I always love that moment, by the way, when you surprise the flock of mockingbirds. So, they kind of struggle to get their talking points in order. They're looking at each other like, "What are we supposed to be saying here? We weren't planning for this." They have no real thoughts of their own, right? So, they're just awaiting on their next instructions. And sometimes whoever it is that is instructing them doesn't have them prepared. And in that time frame, in that precious little time frame, that's when they just start to fill the air with general upset and stupidity. They try to attack reality. It's, it's really, like I said, something to behold. They're like literal lost sheep, but they're usually pretty angry, which is why some of them just straight up wanted me arrested. I'm not kidding.

This person tweeted, "Uh, if Candace is not charged for obstruction of jury tampering after releasing footage of allegedly Tyler Robinson killing Charlie to our audience today, a judge graph demanded not be shown. She is part of the two-tiered justice system. I'm not going to post it, but the defense argued it not be shown to the public so that Tyler Robinson gets a fair trial. Well, Candace just released it. I don't know how, but people need to go to jail."

This is backed up by a account called Lisa Knows. She wrote, "Candace has just released footage the judge ordered not to be shown to the public. She's already doxed a witness for the prosecution. When is she going to be charged with obstruction? This is completely out of hand. She's doing everything she can to destroy this trial. She is absolutely evil."

I love the idea that I'm obstructing justice, but they are bringing literal influencers to court and lying. Influencer, influencers are going out and lying about what they see inside the courtroom. And of course, that was pretty swiftly community noted charging me with obstruction of justice. Uh, the community note reads, "Candace released independently obtained Lozy rooftop footage. Court limits on broadcasting exhibits applied to courtroom media, not third-party commentators. Legal standard for obstruction of justice requires corrupt intent to impede proceedings. I am not trying to impede proceedings. I'm trying to help them along. This is just what happened. I'm not hiding anything. I'm saying share more. Daylight is the best disinfectant."

Now, you might be wondering, what did Turning Point USA say, right? That's a, this is, that was a pretty big drop yesterday. What about the ever wise and strategic spokesperson of Turning Point USA, Andrew Kovat? In case you're thinking, "Well, Andrew Kovette probably did the thing that we would expect him to do. Express concern, at least some interest regarding this new footage." People are obviously looking in their eyes are going, "This person looks trained. This person does look tactical. The speed at which he gets down, and you're alleging he fired a shot, that can't be some rookie. Surely Andrew Kovette is going to share something, uh, and demand a more thorough investigation. Say thank you Candace. Demand more questions are answered regarding what happened on September 10th. How Charlie Kirk died. Charlie Kirk, the very man who he owes his entire career and public presence to." But you'd be wrong if you thought that. Because here is what Andrew Kulvette responded with a few tweets back to back.

It is a, uh, person calling my eyes "teleprompter eyes," I guess. And Andrew has a list here of words, a list of words that I have mispronounced. Ah. Oh, okay. That's what he's doing. At 8:49 p.m. after our episode concludes, he's got a list of words that I've mispronounced across 367 plus hours of live podcasting. Here's my list I'm keeping to mock you. Okay. Okay, Andrew. I don't know. Pardon my ignorance. But I would say that after attempting to hijack Charlie's legacy, what did I say? Posthumously instead of postumously, people are beginning to understand that Charlie was surrounded by vipers. I would argue that bringing influencers into a courtroom and then instructing those influencers to put on these bizarre, over-the-top dramatic performances, pretending that they encountered a blitzkrieg egg, is that what I said, of evidence which has now been roundly debunked, is something worth mocking. And you now find yourself in a bit of a debacle. A kerfuffle made after a kerfuffle. Does that bother you? Oh, we better get to your list. Nobody cares, Andrew. What a sign of being an absolute loser. What are you like 45 years old? Just scrolling through podcasting looking for mispronounced words. I don't think that's going to help your cause.

And speaking of mockingbird influencers who are worthy of laughing at, by the way, Tim P. He obviously just says whatever the state themes are. He just presents state themes. Believe the deep state. Well, he apparently did not comprehend the assignment at all because he rushed in to rescue the narrative after our video was shared with the exact wrong conclusion. It was kind of incredible. A couple people did this. Just had no idea, could not comprehend what we were sharing. Effectively, we were saying this person was a decoy and never fired a shot. And Tim P tweeted this in response to Alex Jones. He said, "None of that is true. It's just conjecture. Surprisingly, this serves as a counter to the exploding mic claims, though." Nope, Tim. Nope. That's not, that's not what happened here. Actually, this now makes people look even deeper into the exploding mic claims. Is what we did was we ruled out that the person on the roof took a shot. That's what Alex Jones was saying. Like, this is this is crazy. A bunch of people were messaging us making it very clear this is not possible. You would have seen the gravel kick up. If he had shot a 306, if he had shot that gun, here's what would have happened. So, we're saying this was another decoy, a person that was told to be on that rooftop to get on there and to get off. And most people don't even see a gun. I would like to stress that we have seen no evidence that there was even a gun on the rooftop. Even our source, the person who recorded it, in that recording, he doesn't say or show a gun. So, we have no evidence. We just are, we are trusting that that person had a gun despite never seeing one.

I do want to say, of course, we have to mention Paramount, not so tactical, because he is never to be excluded from idiocy. Um, he chimed in. This is how he was going to rescue the narrative, with a photo of a baby learning to crawl. See, he's like the, that military tactic. This proves it's, it's so easy to do, even a baby could do it. It's like a new take on the Geico commercials. So easy, a baby can do it. He actually shared this. He shared a baby, and that's proof that the person was not trained or tactical. That, that's just your normal human instinct or whatever. [laughter] Baby could be a military man. Maybe it was a baby on the rooftop. Absolutely absurd and hilarious online.

But I do want to draw your attention to Blake Nef's response because this is later be going to be crucial. You know me, always playing a game with these people. Blake Nef was also angry that Alex Jones, uh, tweeted and said, "This is, we're done with this narrative. The Lozy Center rooftop narrative effectively is just been obliterated." And Blake Nef responded to him and said, "There are a lot of errors and distortions in this post, Alex. First of all, saying that this footage is quote, uh, is what quote the courts will not let the public see, leaves out that it is the defense that demanded that it be kept from the public on the grounds that would prejudice Tyler. Prosecutors repeatedly fought to conceal nothing during the preliminary hearing. He's misrepresenting that the rifle is not pulled from his pants in this video because there was another rooftop video from another angle that captures that moment." That's where I want to pause. And then he says, "And once the rifle is pulled out, he obviously is not going to live. He would obviously not limp."

Okay, this is new. This is new. I've never heard this. I've never heard anybody make the claim that there's another angle of a video where we can see him pull the rifle out of his pants. Blake Nef is making that claim. And I just want to put a pin on that. Okay. He says, "Candace has not released that one. The individual does not look like Tyler Robinson because they literally don't look like anyone at that distance." Oh, wow. Where was, where were you when all these influencers were saying it was Tyler Robinson in 4K? Now all of a sudden you're taking our position and we don't know who that is. That could be literally anybody. He continues, "It's the other footage taken from the campus that supports him being there. We have close-up footage of the person who looks enough like Tyler that his own parents identified him as such." There's zero proof his parents did that. We never saw that. That's Blake just narrating. "For instance, the footage that also captured a match of Tyler's car arriving on campus. Those plates were blurry. The car was blurry. Again, that is Blake making assumptions. Blake's allowed to make assumptions, but we can't." He said, "Recoil from a prone firing position can easily be minimal, but in any case, we know a gun was fired from the spot because a bullet coming from that direction was what killed Charlie, as confirmed in the medical examiner's report. Please do not keep indulging this, Alex."

It is amazing. Turning Point is just so quick to want to shut down any sort of an inquisition into what happened on that day. And I think there's a reason for that, Blake. Particularly a reason why you are always so fired up when people start to notice these holes in the narrative. There's a reason why you and Andrew Kovvat are always so fired up. Anyway, today on the Beas and Budad show, they further explained this logic and here is what they had to say.

"Well, and so just a quick note on that. I did check with people inside the courtroom that day and they're, um, they're saying that this clip that was shown, we're about to show it in just a sec, uh, doesn't include the, I believe a different angle is what I'm led to believe. Uh, at least again, I didn't see it, but that's, there is a portion where you can see him kind of roll over the railing, assemble the weapon. It's a little obscured by the railing, but that's what was apparently is happening."

"I was, I was asking about that. Andrew is, yeah, that they have basically two angles. Guy goes over railing and you see him doing something. As you said, it's obscured by the railing, but you can see he's taking some kind of action which we can, uh, deduce is likely pulling the rifle out of his pant leg, making it ready to go. And then there's like a brief blind spot after that. And then it's the video we see the guy running across the roof, taking pos, a prone position, and at the exact moment where we know the shooting occurred, second later, gets up, runs away, and..."

"Okay, so now we have some separation. So he, okay, they're saying we didn't see the footage, but you can trust that people who were in the courtroom and saw the footage, the same ones who lied to you and we didn't clock them on those lies. We platformed them as they said that it was in 4K and it was Tyler Robinson. You can trust that they said there's another angle and in that angle, you can kind of deduce. I didn't know we were allowed to do this. Think you guys tell us you, if you don't have the evidence in 4K, how dare you speculate. Apparently, they can deduce that in this footage that they don't know, but someone in the courtroom told them does exist. Um, you can see him deduce that he puts together the gun and takes it out of his pants. That doesn't sound too specific. Like, if I had deduced on my show, you guys would be pretty angry. You'd be like, 'Did you dream it, Candace? Did you dream it? Did you astral project?' As Andrew tweeted, 'We present hard evidence. You deduce through influencers at court. Got it. Seems a little unfair, but I accept the challenge. I, I will arise to debunk what you are saying. Challenge accepted because you guys lie about everything.'"

Anyway, switching gears. I would like to actually talk primarily today about Charlie's funeral. Um, Charlie's burial. The Turning Point extreme sensitivity, a new sensitivity, I might add, because as we showed you a couple days ago, actually, if you roll back the tape, they were initially very open about Charlie's body. So, to recap, um, on September 10th, at some point in the early afternoon, I was, I think I have said to you guys in the past that it was Stacy Sheridan, but I've actually been told that it was allegedly Elizabeth McCoy that was recording Erica in Charlie's open casket in Utah. That's September 11th, middayish. Um, and then at 5:27 p.m. later that day in Arizona local time, the, uh, local news station Sky News reported openly, so we're not breaking this news, that Charlie was headed to Hansen Mortuary in Phoenix. I'm going to show you that clip here.

"So, if you are just joining us here on streaming, it is 5:27 Phoenix time. Uh, about about an hour ago, uh, Air Force 2 landed at Sky Harbor Airport, which is, uh, the Phoenix Metro's main airport here, uh, with the body of Charlie Kirk, his family, and the vice president. And, uh, as we are giving you a live look here from Sky 12, we can see, uh, that motorcade come around the bend here. And clearly, you can see the, the law enforcement has cleared the way for this procession. And it looks like that the White Hurst is possibly in the, in the front there. It's kind of hard to see, but you know, obviously, um, making its way from the freeway to the streets and ending up at Hansen Mortuary."

Okay, so that was reported. They, everyone knew where he was going. They saw what time he landed and that he was handing to heading to Hansen Mortuary in Phoenix on September 12th. Okay, so the day after that, Charlie is back in Phoenix at Hansen Mortuary and Erica moves to post the footage that, uh, Elizabeth actually captured the day before in Utah. She moves to post that footage of her lying over Charlie's open casket onto social media. Again, it is relevant that that, uh, footage was actually captured the day before because if you were paying attention to the local news, you may have wrongly deduced that this footage was taken in Phoenix, but it was not. And I also want to note that that is an open casket that you're seeing in Utah.

Fast forwarding to September 20th, uh, at around 11:00 a.m., Charlie is no longer at Hansen. He is now having a Catholic funeral mass that is held at a Catholic church that Charlie regularly attends. And this is in the middle of the day. And so immediately you should be asking yourself, why the change? Why the change? The mass was not hidden from the public. Okay, it obviously was not open to the public, but it was not hidden from the public as it occurred at at the same time as, uh, mass was going on for local parishioners. They observed the, the hir. Based exactly what the news was reporting. They observed that, but like I said, it wasn't open to the public. So, this was not something they were trying to keep super hush-hush. The question that's relevant here is why would you go from Hansen to now Catholic? Okay, this represents a total sea change in narrative. Less we forget, there was an entire mockingbird campaign which was launched to attack me after I publicly, um, asserted that there were rumblings that Charlie was close to converting, that we were hoping that he would. Catholics were hoping that he would. It was a conversation that was happening even between me and Charlie, like, take the next step, take the next step, and this just set them off. It was something that was a high priority in the immediate aftermath of Charlie's assassination for Turning Point to come out and to clarify, by clarify, I mean to shut that down. Like, this is not true. Okay. It was high priority. So much so that their spokesperson Andrew Kovette joined Alex Clark's show and took down that insinuation. And I want you to take a listen so that you remember what was said.

"Was he becoming Catholic?"

"No. But he really loved Catholic mass. He loved the ritual of it. Uh, he loved the beauty of old Catholic churches and the stained glass."

"And him and Erica would go sometimes?"

"Yeah. Well, Erica's a cradle Catholic. Uh, but she ended up kind of like me. I grew up Catholic and first communion and went to Catholic high school, but then I ended up becoming a Christian in college through a Protestant church through a non-denominational kind of more experience. It's actually Presbyterian and then it was kind of non, non, non-denominational and and I think Erica kind of follows that same path. She and I share that."

"Also, by the way, I, I just want to draw attention to she's posted a photo of her and Charlie and the kids in mass before and somebody in the comment section said, 'Oh, are you guys converting?' and she said, 'No, we just like attending sometimes.' So, she herself had said no."

"They're making it clear there was no conversion happening. And even though Erica was a cradle Catholic, uh, and they're telling the truth, by the way, we know this. Erica talks about this on podcasts. Erica very much represented herself as non-denominational. She's got tons of pastors. Everyone's saying, 'I'm Erica's pastor. I'm Charlie's pastor.' But they wanted to shut down the idea that Charlie or Erica was Catholic. And what you should know about that is I am told that Andrew, this was pre-recorded. And throughout this conversation, you can see little cuts because Andrew was texting with Erica throughout this recording to ensure that he was okay with what she was, what he was saying and what he was sharing. So this public messaging had her stamp of approval. And again, to be clear, it was a pre-record which took place before Charlie's Catholic funeral mass. A day later after saying this, you move to have a Catholic funeral mass. Does that make any sense? Just run that back. Does that make sense in your head? Either Erica or Charlie are Catholic. They just like to go in smells and bells, but they were committed non-denominational and then evangelical for Charlie. So, pardon, pardon my common sense here. I know that's not allowed. But if you had planned to bury Charlie, who was not a Catholic according to you, in a Catholic cemetery, why would you not just have him immediately transported to a Catholic funeral home rather than having him moved from Hansen? Moving him suggests that something went wrong. Okay, I've been around. You don't just opt to move dead bodies between funeral homes. You don't go, 'Oh, well, we put it in this funeral home. Now we move to another funeral home.' Especially if you're choosing to bury someone for religious reasons. Are we allowed to have common sense and say that that's like, 'Yeah, no, that does, that doesn't, something occurred.' So, here's what happened. We received a tip and this tip has checked out in a major way. And I'm going to be clear, clear here on what is being alleged and what is not alleged because some parts I am not alleging. I'm telling you this is what took place. So, regarding Hansen, the person alleged with proof that I deem to be credible, um, that the reason that Charlie was brought to Hansen and was ultimately moved was because the company refused to take part in a quote unquote mock burial. Okay, a mock burial. So, that you understand why I find this information credible. It's because I read through text messages, uh, that were sent to this effect from the people that would have knowledge of this. So I'm going to explain, uh, what that is and, uh, or rather what is meant by that term mock burial in this particular scenario so there's no confusion. It's considered mock because the deceased is not ultimately going to be buried. Okay. So you can request to have a mock burial either before or after a person is cremated, almost as a celebration. We'd like to have this, this person in a casket, have a celebration, have a funeral. But this casket is not going to be put into the ground. Actually, we're going to cremate him. So, I am told that Hansen declined to participate in a mock burial. So, Turning Point USA then had to shop around and ultimately they landed upon the Catholic Church because of Erica's very strong ties to the priest. You'll recall, just the church in general. Um, if you watched our Bride of Charlie series, we went about Erica's from that area, her background, her high school that she went to. But regarding the priest, to jog your memory, Erica is apparently so close to this priest, despite the fact that she's not Catholic or participating Catholic, whatever it is Andrew was saying there. But that priest who winds up performing that Catholic funeral mass, uh, she's so close to him that rather than bringing her family members to Utah after she finds out that her husband is shot, after she finds out that her husband is assassinated, rather than flying her family members out there, she coordinated to bring the priest. We then saw him around her, um, traveling with her at future events. There was that Turning Point event in October which featured the vice president at Miss on October 29th. The priest was with her. He traveled with her there as well. All of that in retrospect is rather extraordinary because Turning Point still maintains to this day that Charlie was not flirting with Catholicism. This is something that Blake Nev said the other day. A bishop said otherwise. Said I talked to Charlie. But Blake Nev said, "Nope, never. Diehard evangelical." So why a Catholic funeral mass if not for the reason that you have a personal relationship with the priest who will grant you a special request that has been refused by others? Not illegal, by the way. I'm implying that anything that was done was illegal. I'm saying that if this holds true, it means that you have, I will do that for you. I will do what the others are saying that they will not do. It implies that the intention was actually to not have Charlie buried Catholic because he's not Catholic. He did not die Catholic.

Now, the next part I'm going to tell you is not speculation. It's a fact. On the day of that Catholic funeral mass, Charlie's casket was closed. It's a fact. Afterward, it was in fact taken to a Catholic cemetery and close friends and family and high net worth donors gathered around that casket one last time. So, you're thinking, "Oh, this must be when he gets lowered into the ground." No, that did not happen. I can tell you that did not happen. And I am not saying allegedly here. Instead, they were then asked to leave. They did not see Charlie taken to a burial plot. They did not see Charlie lowered into a ground. There was no grave that was dug out. Rather, they were told, "You leave and we'll handle the rest. Uh, he's going to be put somewhere unmarked. Uh, we don't want you guys to be privy to where that's going to be because we are fearful that they could desecrate that someone could come like the left could come and desecrate wherever he's buried." His close family and friends were told this. So the people that were in attendance were then shuttled to a luncheon elsewhere. Again, I am presenting that as a fact. No one who attended Charlie's actual funeral on that day can make a counter claim that they saw him buried. That would be untrue. They would be lying. They were asked to leave. So when I put that together, I am led to believe that it was indeed a mock burial done as a favor by a friend. Again, not illegal. I am led to believe that he was either before or after cremated. And the, this ceremony was for family and friends, you know, to have a funeral, but ultimately Charlie was not lowered into the ground on that day. And it, I, that is the reason that I believe Erica chose to do a Catholic funeral mass, uh, despite indicating everything to the contrary to the public about Charlie's beliefs, evangelical. So why does this matter? Well, it matters because it would be highly unusual if that is factual that he was cremated and it was a mock burial. It would be highly unusual for someone to seek their spouse's cremation before an investigation into their assassination is concluded. Plain and simple. It would be run counter to trying to find answers. And, um, their sensitivity doesn't make sense otherwise. It does not make sense otherwise. What they are selling you is absolute BS that there is some fear that a leftist trans person is going to come up. Go look up anybody recently who has died. You can find where they've been buried. That are bigger and more prominent. You could, you can Google where George HW Bush, presidents, where is he buried? Go Google where, uh, JFK Jr. was buried. You can find that. You can find everywhere where they are buried, where, um, uh, who's another recent person, John McCain. You can Google that right now. Where is John McCain buried? So you are telling me that all of these high-flying people who were remarkably controversial, people that are at each other's throats all the time fighting in politics are capable of being buried publicly and you can go visit them publicly and you can go learn and see the moment that their family members were around and when those plots of, uh, were were dug out. But you're telling me that Charlie Kirk, it's just, no, no, no, no. This is, we are just so fearful. Can I have one thing? Can I have one thing? Yeah, I bet. Can we have one thing? Can we have the truth? Can we have the truth?

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I can also tell you guys that months following this, so that took place in September. Months following this, a very, very high-paying donor over at Turning Point USA ran into another set of donors in Europe and relayed the same. She was present at the Catholic funeral mass and she relayed that Charlie was not buried. So it's not, these are not rumors. That those parts I am asserting as fact. Are we to believe he's just been kept above ground this whole time or that he was cremated? It makes sense that he was cremated. If you were shopping for a mock burial, there'd be no reason, like I said, to move him from one place to the other. And you guys were not shy about Charlie's body. You are being shy because you're hiding something. You guys have just been lying about a lot. I know too much right now. And we're trying to figure out, obviously, as always, when to present certain things. And sometimes I do want to get ahead of myself, but I, I am, I am sickened by Turning Point USA. I want, I want to put that on record. I am sickened by them and the truth is going to come out about everything. So yeah, I know vengeance does not belong to me, but, uh, truth belongs to everybody and everybody can see what this is and feel what this is. And nobody is being convinced by Andrew Kovat, you know, late night tweeting mispronounced words or Blake Nef trying to explain to us that the evidence, what we see with our eyes, our own eyes, should not be trusted, but we should believe people inside of the courtroom whose own eyes, uh, told them something that has never been shared publicly. It doesn't make sense that they would say these things with a screwdriver. What are you talking about? Where is that in the evidence? Doesn't exist. Officer Bagley. Oh, just, it just, it went off. I don't know. I don't know what happened to my body cam footage right when I found the screwdriver that Blake's obviously referring to. There's going to be, there's some more footage around the corner or something. It's, it is unbearable waiting. I have to say that. It is, it, it is something that I have to do and I am continually practicing this exercise of patience and I've done a good job, but man, the stuff that I know right now, it, it burns me. It is positively burning me. It's why, you know, we have been running late because we're debating of when to drop things, but they're making the mistakes right now and we have to allow them to continue to make these mistakes.

Anyway, yesterday, as I mentioned to you, I think at the top, I said prosecution then defense. It was in fact, uh, my producer corrected me, the prosecution that filed a memorandum. And in that memorandum, they highlighted some injuries that Charlie had in his autopsy that, uh, the internet is now going, "What?" And I can just read to you this portion. And they are saying that the bullet, or at least parts of it, sequentially perforated the anterior left side of Mr. Kirk's neck strap muscles of the left side of the neck, um, and the left common carotid and left internal and external jugular veins. So, carotid artery, we, we already knew all of this. But we remember that, um, Andrew Kovat particularly told us this next part. It obliterated the left side of C27 vertebrae and transected the cervical spinal cord. So, he told us it went in this way, just to make this make sense, hit the back and then went down his vertebrae. Right. That's how that artery got obliterated and then it ricocheted downward. And they're saying, "Okay, that's that happened." All right. But he also had other injuries that people have questions about, particularly pertaining to hemorrhages in his lungs, which tend to come from blunt force trauma, and hemorrhages. His heart had hemorrhages and both of his lungs had hemorrhaged. And that's what you're seeing at the bottom there. The, uh, medical examiner also observed hemorrhaging around Mr. Kirk's heart, both of his lungs, left and right. And so people are taking this one of two ways. Okay, obviously, if we don't know what happened in that car, there are so many stories. I'm not going to pretend to be a doctor, a doctor here and to understand what can and cannot happen. Um, what should, what you should see if somebody's been shot in the neck, how it would impact their heart and their lungs. You can do a cursory search and determine that your heart and lungs can't hemorrhage if there is no heartbeat. And so this gets into the question of when did his heart stop beating? Because we have Frank Turk who tells us he realized in those critical minutes that Charlie had, did not have a pulse. But we have, uh, also heard from Erica that, you know, he died instantly. So, that's people who are thinking he died instantly and you know, immediately his heart stopped beating are going to go, "Okay, well, then how was there all this hemorrhaging?" But then we've also heard a scenario where they get his heart back going again at the hospital. And if you are, you know, if your heart is going and pumping, of course there's going to be an opportunity for hemorrhaging to take place. It's one of the things that happens after any surgery that takes place is that you, there are concerns for hemorrhaging. So, there's no definitive answer here and it's, and no matter what, even if there was a definitive answer, it's going to be debated both ways. There's also a chance that if you, if you look up how this can happen, how you can have, uh, hemorrhaging in your lung and hearts, yeah, you will determine that if something strikes you, blunt force trauma to the heart, that is an injury that is commonly sustained. So people are going, "That could be the exploding mic. That could be the exploding mic." No, that could be what happens when he gets hit in the neck and he's fighting and spitting up blood. You're going to see everything, but it's going to get interesting. And it's one of these things that I would love to be able, uh, to sit down and have a real doctor who's not paid. We've all survived COVID, so I'm not so keen on people in white coats explaining things. We know that that industry has also been hijacked by influencers, so to speak, who told us the most absurd things after COVID. Hop on one foot, six feet social distancing. This is science. We, we're so naturally distrusting that we're not going to get a clear answer on that. But it would be interesting to know if he had bruising on his chest. Things of that nature, I think, are going to tell more of a story because I am a person who does believe that the microphone exploded on him. And now that I have fully rinsed out any chance that the person on Lozy shot Charlie in his neck and that this bullet ricocheted downward and he somehow, uh, had this Superman steel neck because he ate lettuce and liked salad. I'm looking for a more reasonable explanation and it is, in my estimation, a way more reasonable explanation that there were decoys, multiple decoys. People that were told to capture those decoys on the roof who was just tasked with really running so that they could say, "Oh, that's where it happened from. It happened from a Lozy Center." I don't think it did. I think that military man was tasked with being an acrobat. That's why he looked professional. That's why he looked tactical. And there is a reason why they don't want to bring in these witnesses in the courtroom, why they haven't even been contacted by the prosecution. It, it is very obvious to me that Turning Point is not embarking on a mission to find any truth.

Uh, anyway, uh, Skyla, you have the clip of the, the screwdriver clip from the court hearing. Is that what you have? Oh, okay. Yes. From the prosecution who's making that asserting that same claim that they can reasonably, I guess, deduce that the defendant used a screwdriver and they cite the exhibits 12.1 and 12.4 as proof of that. And it's just not, it's not proof of that. We've never, we've never seen that. We have seen no evidence of either a screwdriver or a gun on the rooftop of a Lozy building. I want you to realize that because we're at this late stage where they want us not to believe our own eyes. And that's why they're so angry is because then when we show you something and we show you a clearer image, your eyes tell you that the narrative doesn't make any sense. And I, it's going to fall apart. It is, it's, it's already falling apart. That's why they're so angry at me. But it's going, I can guarantee you it's going to fall apart more. And a lot more questions are going to be asked of Turning Point employees and why they didn't include certain things when they told stories about what they did that day and why Blake seems to have this convenient amnesia about certain events that day and why he, uh, continues to exclude Danny Phillip from the equation. Doesn't know who he was driving with. It was Danny Phillip. Why can't you say that? There might be reasons for that. Anyway, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

I just want to show you this email that I got in happier news because it was very funny when we were mocking Frank Turk reading this email about how I'm destroying a marriage. Well, this is actually a real email of someone who said that I saved their marriage and it made me very happy. Uh, this person wrote to us, "Hi, Candace. After watching your episode where Frank Turk wrote a letter about how you are ruining someone's marriage, I realized that you actually did help in the recovery of my marriage. My husband and I have had a rough few years after I discovered that he had an emotional affair at work. He eventually left that job and cut that person out of his life, but I resented him for what he did to me. Needless to say, we had little to no conversations that would not end in a fight. I was at my lowest around the time when you announced the Breijgit series coming. I watched in shock the intro episode and mentioned it to my husband. He was intrigued and we started watching your episodes together after the kids went to bed. There were days that we couldn't stand each other. Uh, but the curiosity of the newest episode would bring us together at the end of the day to watch your show. There have been plenty of times when we would start watching your episodes, each pouty and hands crossed. So, by the end of it, we were back to talk on talking terms and discussing your newest discovery. While grieving my marriage, I shut out a lot of people, including my sister. We had a falling out and we didn't talk for well over a year, even though we lived close by. At a family gathering, I mentioned your show. My sister said that she's been watching it as well. Became a neutral topic, which led us to sending each other clips of your show and talking about it. My sister actually encouraged me to write to you and said that she hopes that you read my letter on your show. Also, I want wanted to encourage you as you work through your vivid dreams. Before I discovered my husband's affair, I had vivid dreams where I learned the woman's name and that he was having an affair. At the time when I had the dreams, I asked my husband about them and he denied it all. But recently, he reminded me of those dreams and told me that they were scary spot on. God sometimes uses dreams to speak to us. For a crowd that believes in the Superman neck, it's insane that they would reject the possibility of revelation through dreams. My husband brought me your Make Him a Sandwich book as a gift. We are in therapy and doing much better than when the Breijit series was launched. We pray for your protection over you and your family as you fight the good fight. Thank you for all of your work. It's not in vain and has brought together not just the left and the right, but families too."

I'm just really happy to hear that and it's just because you said like, I, we, my sister hopes that you see it. Well, look, now we're reading it on the show. Um, and the Becoming Bashit series was, I mean, I, when I was falling down that rabbit hole, I was going, "What on earth is going on in France?" Now we're wondering what on earth is happening in America. And, um, yeah, I'm just, I'm, you know, very happy for you and your husband and that you're, you're seeing it through and sticking it through.

Regarding the dream point, that's another, this is like another one of these things where they mock me. I am so not ashamed of the dreams that I had. Um, I know when I am having a silly dream and when I am having something that is paralyzing, uh, it just, it feels like it's true. I, and like I gave you examples of that when I knew specific details about, uh, a friend being pregnant, like what month the baby was going to be born. And it's so funny that the people who want to grift off faith the most are acting like dreams are not very clearly represented in the Bible as messages from God. They can be messages from God. And I know when I had that dream and I didn't know, no, but I knew when I had that dream, the fact that I woke up and texted Andrew and I said, "Charlie told me that you betrayed him." When I had that dream, and it was, it took place in Israel when I told you guys about. And at that time, I thought Andrew Kovette was a good guy. [laughter] And Charlie said he was betrayed. And then I couldn't hear what he was saying. And then I saw Andrew Kovette's face. I knew that was something. And now that we are 10 months into this, why would I doubt my dream? What, what about that did not, to me, appear to manifest? He's betraying him every single day when he tells lies about who Charlie is, who Charlie was, and what Charlie was going through. Um, and so I just hope that people who spend all of this time going through all of our content to try to embarrass me. I hope you know that I don't, I'm just not insecure in that way. I don't have that. Like, I, I'm very aware and I think it's probably because I listened to too much Kanye West music when I was growing up. But I know that that's kind of the key. That's the entry point. They want you to feel insecure talking about things and, um, because it allows them to mock you and then you go, "Oh, I'm not going to say that again." No, I actually had more dreams that

I should have shared. I shared with my team, but in the immediate aftermath of Charlie's death, the dreams were so vivid, they were so overpowering that I almost felt like I was being haunted by him. And it was, it was a part of the grieving stage. I, I, I wanted them to stop, you know.

And, um, I remember talking to my priest because I, I said to him, I feel like he must, he must be in purgatory. I, because I, he feels so near, and I wasn't, never, I wasn't having these vivid dreams, and they just wouldn't stop. And then there came a point where they did stop, and I don't get the vivid dreams like I did after he died. And, you know, I had hoped that that meant that he was no longer in purgatory, and that our prayers for him, and I know Catholic people all over the world were praying for him, um, that that, yeah, that that meant that his, that he moved on. And I have literally no qualms about sharing that at all. I think my dreams are right. I think Charlie was betrayed, and I think the rest of the world doesn't need dreams to see that. So, take that for what you will. Be right back after a break.

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Okay. Top comments from yesterday's episode. Sierra wrote, "I canceled my meeting at the White House to watch this. I still can't believe they, they just lie about everything and then think we're too stupid to know when they share these like half-baked statements." I am not scheduled to go. Well, after you cancel it, yeah, you're not scheduled to go.

Uh, this next user writes, "Crawl of Duty. Whoever came up with this show title deserves a bonus." We have Dom. Has this rare talent. Our technical director, Dom, has this rare talent of just coming up with very funny thumbnails. Like, I feel like I used to do like 50% of them to 75%, and now Dom has kind of taken over. It's his unique talent. Occasionally Skyler wins the prize. We kind of all like pitch them, but we do take pride in our, our thumbnails. So, thank you for noticing that.

Today's episode. Haley writes, "On behalf of everyone who would follow you to the ends of the earth, would you kindly ask the superintendent, the king, your husband, George Farmer, if you would graciously sit down with your friend and VP, Baron Coleman? I could see it hitting Shawn Ryan, Candace Owens level views." Look, I can hardly book George, as you guys know. I try once a year. I think I'm now down. I'm going to have to do once every two years. So, Baron can ask George, and I, I, good luck. He's, he's got an angle there, you know. Uh, uh, uh, he could say, "You are focused on Catholic stuff. We've been both working on the Charlie Kirk case." And but the main thing is, when George speaks out, he really only talks about his faith journey. So, that's going to have to be his angle. I, I hope Baron gets it. If he books it, it'll, I, I couldn't do it. I'd be impressed. It might happen. It really might. You'd be surprised.

Uh, Shannon writes, "Battle braids are activated. Keep going, Max. Also, just a quick hi to Blakey, Andrew, and the crew. We know you are in here." Yes, they are. They are definitely in here.

Greg Pi writes, "At some point, one of these rats at Turning Point is going to crack and turn in the rust. Pin this one." They won't need to. They won't need to because everything's going to come out.

Uh, James Gray writes, "Charlie was betrayed. And to those attacking you, I think of Psalms 27:12 to 14. False witnesses have risen against me and they breathe out violence. They breathe out violence. Wait for the Lord. Be strong and let your heart take courage." Thank you for being with sunlight disinfecting the fed slop. Thank.

And [snorts] I like, I always say thank you back to you guys as well because I, um, I wasn't in a good place last year. I wasn't in a good place in Q1 of this year. I'm now in a good place. And I also just feel, if we're allowed to feel, I just feel Charlie's presence now. Like, I, it's like we're on one more tour, like one more fight. Like we're just hitting the ground again right now. I know he's on our side, I guess, is what I'm saying. And that energy of Charlie was just so big and so bright that we're very lucky that we have him on our side. Wouldn't want to be up against him, that's for sure. So, um, yeah, they couldn't cage him, you know. His, uh, I wake up and I just see every trend dedicated to Charlie in the news and people discussing it, and I just laugh at the idiot fools who thought they were just going to end the Charlie Kirk story, uh, at a memorial convention, which was effectively thrown like it was a concert. And, and now those people who were so happy, so happy at the memorial event, clinking glasses thereafter, are very bitter and very angry. Angry. And somehow, not in the immediate aftermath, they weren't angry. Now they're very angry. I wonder why that is. Because lies make their way around the world. Lies are quick, but eventually the truth gets up out of bed, and the truth is always final.

Seven Sheets writes, "Keep up the fight. The charade is becoming ever more ridiculous. If any of the spokespeople ever questioned one thing instead of deflecting you, I might donate." Not holding my breath. I know I speak for millions when I say we love you. And you go, Max. God bless. We're just warming up. We are just warming up. It's time. It definitely is time.

And I again want to remind you guys of how evil it is that these people watched an innocent man be assassinated and now they are demanding that another innocent man be assassinated. Kyle Robinson is up for the death penalty. So, when you see these, it's 100% him. You see Blake Neff, who is an evil man, saying, "Convict Tyler Robinson." And he does not. Do you have reasonable doubt, Blake? No. Convict him. He's calling for the murder of Tyler Robinson. That's what that is. Unless there is actually an overabundance of evidence we can see with our clear eyes, when you say convict someone, that's what, and you know that they're up for the death penalty, you're, you're calling for them to be murdered by the state. Is that the first time you've ever called for someone to be murdered by the state, Blake? Is it? We're going to find out.

Amarusa writes, Amma Amara Musa, pardon me, writes, "A law of physics called conservation of momentum requires if Charlie's neck stopped the bullet, then his body snaps backward with total energy carried in the round. Video from the side proves this didn't happen." Oh no, Charlie did not go back. You are correct. He went up and to the side. 3,000 pounds of energy, and he went up and tilted to the side. But who cares about the laws of physics? What about the laws of the widow? Have you considered that laws of the widow? His body snaps backward. Total energy carried in the round. Video from the side proves that this did not happen. Basic physics proof. No gunshots. How dare you? That's what I'll say. How dare you try to come in here with science? We need you to have emotion at different times. Particularly if the widow says he ate healthy, he ate healthy. Her baby ate healthy. My, my Charlie, my Charlie, my Charlie ate healthy. So, just accept that slop.

All right, you guys. You know, the easiest way that you guys can support us is by going onto the website, buying some merch, signing up for the book club. Book club's amazing. We're having a lot of fun. We are talking right now, um, about the Pale of Settlement in Russia. Very relevant to what's going on. Evil people who migrated west and are now running our countries and are into Baal worship and who really love Israel a lot. That's what we're talking about. Where did they come from? Whether there's a reason they love Ukraine, too, because that's where they came from. Pale of Settlement, modern-day Ukraine, Lithuania. Make him a sandwich order. If you don't want to join the book club, at least read it so that you know where to begin on your research. We definitively, um, brought some very bad people into this country. Uh, but goodness is on the rise. Be positive. I am positive every day. I really am. I love what I do. And I, I don't know. I just, also, like I said, I keep telling you guys, I knew that Charlie was betrayed instantly. Didn't know by who. And I also knew that they wouldn't get away with it. And I feel like all of that now is, I don't know, the, the, the beginning to manifest. Like people are going, "Oh, no. This is, this is really bad what happened. He was very betrayed." So, be happy warriors because Charlie would command you to. We'll see you guys tomorrow.