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I want to talk about Epstein.
Yeah.
Um, many of us have suspected that Epstein was Intel. The government pretty much admitted that. Um, when he was convicted the first time, they said, "Well, the guy was intel." But the question is which intel? And many of us suspect MSAD, but others have said CIA. Um, look, you know, there are a lot of negative things in the CIA's past. If this is true, if Epstein was a CIA asset, if he was working with the CIA, there's a lot of bad things in the CIA's history.
Yeah.
But pedophilia.
Yeah.
Pedophilia. I mean, this is is the CIA truly so depraved that they would run operations that include pedophilia for whatever their end goal is.
Yes. I mean, well, I know for for example, uh we had a I won't name the the individual, a Honduran uh high official in the Honduran government who was uh he was a a pedophile and but he was a recruited CIA asset and and so we did, you know, we sort of enabled uh his conduct. Uh, one of my one of my friends who was running Iranian intelligence, you know, we had we had some spies in in Iran and and one of those guys wanted to have uh his dream was to have a threesome with hookers. So, they flew him to Las Vegas and my friend was walking around having to find hookers for this guy. So, I mean, you know, if you're looking for some strict moral code, no, it's not there. And uh with with respect to Epstein, yeah, he was he was a CIA asset. He was a MSAD asset as well. You know, he was involved with uh uh indirectly through I think Robert Maxwell at the time uh the the supplying arms to the Contras.
So that you know, he his ties go back then. So he was he was someone that the the CIA would use. And when you when you're you know when you know that you've got somebody who's doing immoral depraved things, you're not you say my job is not to be the morality police. So yeah, it it happened.
But knowing these people are committing a heinous crime and they're just looking the other way. Law like our government law enforcement essentially looking the other way.
Yeah. Well, that, you know, right after World War II, uh, Operation Paperclip, uh, we we were employing not just members of the Nazi party, but members of the the Waffen SS that had been involved with horrific war crimes with uh, genocide. But because they're on our side, it's okay. We just look the other way. So, yeah, I mean, this is uh, we've had a long history of doing this. I just don't understand how people inside the CIA don't say something like if you see that somebody's a pedophile. Uh I mean, how can you sit back and allow little children to be abused?
Um well, particularly when you know if it's your boss that's doing it that they don't have the CIA is not known for passing out what I'll call whistleblower awards for people that point uh bad things that people are doing out say, "Hey, we got this problem here." uh you know there there was uh there was a chief of the Soviet division during uh this was during the time when Robert Ames you know when they're looking for moles within well, you know, he was a closeted homosexual and uh, you know, that led to some other problems uh because back then if you got it, you were given a polygraph to make sure that you didn't you were not homosexual or transgender or any of those things, they've now released they, you know, that's no longer uh I guess something a strike against you. So uh, you know, people are people and just because you got top secret clearances doesn't mean that you're sort of automatically gifted with a with a superior moral compass. If anything the the agency actually encourages sort of if you will psychopathic behavior.
Yeah, because part of what you're doing, particular as a case officer, you're you're trying to commit convince other people to commit treason and you've got one one of the things you do in what they call spotting and assessing is determine what are what are their vulnerabilities. How can we get leverage over them? And you know, if uh if the leverage is they like little kids, okay, use that. Shouldn't be that way, but it is. I'm just it is what it is. Definitely the CIA I think does encourage psychopathic behavior. I think you're right. I mean, we've seen more and more evidence of a variety of operations. I mean recently operation artichoke, you know, we started learning about that which is the mind control research that was done in the 50s. I mean it sounds very Nazi like.
And then it's like well we did bring in a bunch of Nazis and so maybe then the Nazis got to continue experimenting and figuring out, you know, say this sounds like a really good idea. Let's see if we can actually control people's brains and some of the many of them resulted in death trying to control people and torturing them essentially. So there's really no morality. I mean, but the type of person who says, "Oh, I'm going to do this experiment on this other human being, right?"
I mean, I I would just think that it's you are attracting these types of sociopathic or psychopathic even serial killers that you're just bringing in.
Once you convince yourself that you've got a bigger enemy and you got to defeat that enemy at any price, you can do anything to justify that. And that's why the the propaganda that accompanies war inevitably involves uh dehumanizing the other side. And and that's that's why I think, you know, comment about CNN and Iran right now. What what was going to infuriate the Trump administration is people are going to see that Iranians are normal people. They're not they're not a bunch of uh uh fanatics.
Right? In fact, you know what's sort of what's sort so odd is when when you want to deal with Islam and fanaticism, it it's it's not Iran that's doing regular public executions and beheadings.
Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia. Yeah. Thank Thank you.
So, and that's where the Wahhabism, by the way, comes from, right? They're the ones that are the biggest perpetrator of all of the main sects that are extremely fanatical. Yeah.
It's really coming out of Saudi Arabia.
Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, it's just So, with Epstein being CIA being used by the CIA in the past and MSAD, is that why you think the Epstein files are not really truly being released? They're still being covered.
Yeah. Yeah. No, it's going to it's going to expose too many uh it'll compromise too much intelligence activity. Not that it's essential for our security. It's just damn embarrassing, raises other uncomfortable questions. So, no, we got to keep that covered up. I think one of the biggest is that what what all of this is uncovering is unfortunately and it's you know very difficult is to see that America's the bad guys, you know, to see that we're bombing schools and that we're waging war all over and and then to see that our own intel community operates with this level of depravity. I mean, it's just not the America that my grandfather when he fought in World War II. This is not the America that he fought for. It's not the America we believed that we were living in.
Right. No, it's it's it's unfortunate. I've used the the movie reference. There's a movie Angel Heart that uh uh featured uh Robert Dairo, Mickey Ror, and it turns out the Dairo played a character called L Cipher, Lucifer.
And Mickey Roor was hired to look for this murderer. And what at the end of the movie, you discover Mickey Roor is the murderer. He was looking for himself.
And that's sort of us. Yeah. Yeah, we keep looking and we're the ones doing most of the killing, not these other other countries, unfortunately.
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