Stanislav Krapivnik: The only way to wake up Europe is to hit hard.

Stanislav Kapibnik just gave Europe a very clear and a very chilling warning. "And if we don't escalate and hit hard, we're going to get to a point where the only way we're going to stop a nuclear exchange is to wake up Europe by hitting something."

In this episode, we discuss his view that the only way to prevent nuclear war with Russia is for Russia to issue Europe and Britain with a very clear wakeup call. We should all be worried about what that might look like. We should all be searching for peace. My name is Ian Proud and I'm the peacemonger. I'm pleased to welcome back today Stanislav Kapubnik, a former US military officer and Russian citizen now, resident in in Moscow, a good friend of mine. Uh to talk about the mood m music in Russia right now about the kind of stalemate we seem to have reached not just in Ukraine but in Europe and Britain over this kind of proxy war. St. Good to have you back.

"Thank you. Agent 010, Mr. Proud. We are glad to have you back in our trap now."

"Gaspodin proud."

"The fly has landed in the trap."

"Yia."

"Can Can I do any cheesier Boris and Natasha accents?"

"Well, anytime. I'm always up for those. Always up for those."

And the unfortunate part is that stereotype still sticks with a lot of people. Oh, Russians, Boris, Natasha. I think they're supposed to Bulgarian though. I'm not quite sure.

"Well, yeah, like snow drifts in the streets all year round and bears roaming everywhere and uh you know, all those kind of things. It's Well, that's a crazy thing, right? That uh that there's such a misunderstanding of uh Russia in in the West because"

"I know you have to get a special license to own a bear and you have to have a chipped like every other animal you own. you know, cougars, tigers, lions, uh, pet eagles, you know, that that's that's that's a typical I mean, but bears are bigger, so you do have to get a special license for it. They they crap really big. So, you know,"

"I would like a petty eagle if I'm being completely honest. I'm not going to lie about that."

"Yeah. Bear, on the other hand, I mean, they're cute, but they Yeah, they crap. They, you know, jump on the sofa when you're trying to watch Strictly Come Dancing."

"Oh, yeah. Yeah. And they eat, man. do they eat? Luckily, you know, interesting thing about bears is they're not they're omnivorous and humans are humans are carnivorous. We can live strictly off of meat. Bears can't."

"They uh they're only like 20% of their diet is is uh meat."

"The or meat or fish. The rest is all berries and and stuff like that. And the occasional, you know, hitchhiker or hiker or uh foreigner walking down the woods in the wrong place at the wrong time. Yeah. Things like that. That doesn't"

"That's at 20%."

"That reminds me of a camping trip in the Canadian Rockies and I went back to my kind of pitch at the campsite and somebody said, "Hey, are you in red 13?" I said, "No, I'm in red 12." The pitch numbers. He said, "Oh, good." Because red 13 left their food out on the picnic bench and we got a bear living a kilometer from here. Thanks very much. That's right next to me."

"Yeah. The, you know, the worst really just understand bears. Uh so we moved back to Russia in 2010 and that was a massive heat wave like uh 300 year record or 500 year record. Uh it was uh plus 45 plus 50 in Moscow. I mean that type of heat, you know, this was plus 40 was just the average day. So and then the uh the swamp uh more the uh the Pete bogs were burning because nobody had flooded them. I mean nobody had been using Pete for a hundred years, but when they dried them out, nobody flood them. They've been all flooded since. Uh but uh so I'd been uh I opened an office up in Yikianburg and because of the heat, you know, the northern uh central northern eurals, they don't really grow much there except for berries and some fruit trees, northern fruit trees. Um well, the berries didn't form uh because of the heat because they, you know, it's it was record heat. So the bears were walking out uh on the roads and people were feeding the bears, you know, people driving between cities, city people, which is stupid thing to do because the bears no longer fear humans. Ah, humans are food. Well, or well, give me food. Let me rephrase that. And when the winter kicked in and the bears aren't hibernating because they didn't get enough berries and they didn't get enough everything else, bears eat massive amounts of berries. They all they're roaming around. Uh, and a lot of those bears had to be shot because they went into the villages. And I mean, just to understand two incidents. In one incident, a bear got into a barn, took the cow out with one swipe of the uh of the paw, took basically took half its head off and was munching down on that cow when the owners came in with rifles. And another case was uh you got to figure snow frozen solid ground. Bear went into a a boneyard. There had been a freshly a fresh grave. But again, frozen ground, snow. He sniffed out the fresh grave and they caught him when he was pulling the body out."

"Blimey. That's"

"a bear. I mean, 2 meters down. The he he threw frozen ground. At least a meter frozen hard frozen ground. He dug down there uh to pull a corpse out."

"Blimey bear. Dear me."

"That's a bear, man. That's a Yeah, bears are"

"Yeah, they could be an allegory for Russian, right? Treat them nice and they good and uh you know, treat them bad and they'll soon be pulling your corpses out of the ground."

"Out the ground. Hey, getting away from me next time, bastard. Not even in the ground. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, you know. So, tell me about the mood in Russia right now. I have lots of friends. In fact, um I'm I think I mentioned to you, but I'm I'm due to finally make my return to to Russia in September. I was planning anyway to come for the Moscow Marathon. I told you about that before, but I've been invited to the Valde discussion group down in Soi, which is a great honor. I'm really delighted to kind of do that because partly it's just to kind of hear what President Putin is thinking right now. Well, I get the impression that kind of patience is wearing thin in Moscow about the kind of essentially that we are in a bit of a stalemate. I mean, Russia is, you know, has the upper hand on the battlefield. Costifa is being gradually encircled. That'll leave Kosklavians, you know, left, but essentially everything's still moving quite slowly. The Ukrainians are bombing deeper and deeper inside of Russia. Patience is weighing thin. I mean what what's your view of the kind of the political mood you know right now about the situation?"

"Well Constantin I I'll quickly move through the front. Uh Constant Novka is basically done. There's about 10% of the city left. Um Russian forces are just east of the uh Djinka Djinka conglomeration about four or five kmh east of it. Um there's another uh branch coming up from uh Dorraia uh DNR that's heading moving steadily northwards. So coming up behind uh Djink and Kromaturk uh is almost fully done. U there's local to the north of it there's localized Ukrainian counter offensives they were being dealt with. uh the city's uh casan is almost fully in Russian hands. Uh and that opens up the the route uh and there's already been uh diversionary groups spotted just north of Slivinsk. So there's a lot of movement in that area that the Ukrainians, you know, if you follow the Ukrainians two weeks ago, they started vaxing romantically about having to leave uh Dorra, having to leave Mirad or Dimmitri. Yeah, we may have to pull out of Dimmitri. Yeah, Demetri got surrounded and wiped out six months ago. You may have to leave. You may have to go pick up the corpses that you left behind. By all means, yeah, you know, when they do the thousand exchange thousand for uh, you know, 30 or 40, just understand that's all they're taking at a time. Russia is quite happy to give them 10, 15, 20,000 more at a time. There are several hundred thousand uh remains of Ukrainian soldiers just I mean the the morgs are packed with them. uh and and remains. I mean remains. I don't mean full bodies a lot of times because uh the pigs the the p feral pigs have gotten really big. The rats have gotten giant uh the feral dogs running around and the crows are having a feast too. Um and when the pigs are done, sorry for the a for any sensitive audience, but when the pigs are done, there's really not much left to bury. Uh they go through everything. uh you know there maybe scraps here and there and maybe documents they don't want to eat because that they're not tasty but uh the other animals at least leave uh the bones and you can have something to identify the person with maybe but then again no you don't because uh you know this is not a Ukraine is not a modern military in that sense that people are enlisted uh they have DNA tests taken so they can be identified if something happens these people are just grabbed off the streets in two weeks they're probably a corpse on a battlefield somewhere in a suicide attack or uh from holding a front that's about to be taken, they just toss them in there. You know, either they'll starve to death on that front line or they'll they'll die when the Russian troops move in. Uh that that's the attitude. Um there there's another thing to to notice. Uh Bellarus uh Ukraine may be declaring war in Barus or vice versa."

"Yeah. No, I know about that. I I'll come to Barus in a minute because I think that's really interesting. Um, I mean, I've been to Minsk a few times. Genuinely fascinating place actually."

"Right. Yes, it is."

"Uh, what what do you think that the plan is for the the so-called fortress below and I mean, do you think there's a plan to actually take it head on or just encircle it?"

"Oh, no. Both both. >> There's the the the front uh the frontal movement is slow and putting pressure on them. And there's uh three wings, two from the south uh they're going to be encircling and one from the north. Uh that's why Constantinfka and uh excuse me, Constantin are so key. Then there's which is basically is tactically surrounded. Uh there's uh while it's not a fully closed ring, physically closed ring, uh there are Russian forces uh uh north by northeast that are five six kilometers out. There's Russian forces to the west that are about six kilometers out uh in the uh uh next door village literally just one blends in the other. Mala Tamachka, there's fighting in the middle of that"

"and Russian drones and artillery fully close N08. So, it's basically cut off. Very little can get in and out without getting droned or getting artillery. Artillery is Russia has caught up on Ukraine with drones, but the majority of Ukrainian casualties are still artillery. Um, artillery has always been the the uh the king of battle at the end of the day. uh and artillery. While most of the Russian casualties are drones uh from the Ukrainian side or from the the NATO side, um the it's hard to call them Ukrainians. The drones uh the drones take a big pounding on Ukrainians, too, but artillery is still king. And Russia outnumbers uh about uh between uh 10 to 12 to one on tubes uh and has the the ammunition to back it. So, there's that. Um and Russian troops uh broke through the second line of defense uh north of Sunumi uh which is about five kilometers from Sunumi uh the northern edge of Sunumi and Russian diversionary units are all the way up to Sunumi through the forest in the northeast of Sunumi that lead right up to the edges. So there's been Russian diversionary units, recon and uh diversion recon sabotage units uh all the way up uh these are three to fiveman units and they're all the way up uh to the edges of Sunumi. So there is movement there's there's quite a bit of movement and there's movement in the high direction too but it's relatively slow there. Uh it's still about 15 kilometers out but there is movement up and down the border. say it it's not as fast maybe, but uh the Ukrainians, you know, you can tell what the Ukrainians are going through at this point when uh the Ministry of Defense said their aim is to have 40 to 50% foreigners, aka uh uh a aka uh um mercs, primarily mercs out of Colombia and Mexico, uh to fill the ranks of the the storm units, >> you know, the the the suicide squads. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, and there's there's been a lot of problems with the Colombians primarily because Ukrainians are insanely racist bastards. Um, and they don't like the Colombians. Uh, so even though the Colombians are dying for them, so they they tend to toss the Colombians as much as possible into suicide missions. They won't pick up their wounded. They just leave them out there to die. And the Colombians get pissed off about that, too. There's been more and more videos surfacing between uh fist fights and and incidents where people have been killed or Colombian wounded Colombian soldiers laying out on the battlefield. One of them was, you know, his his battle buddy's dead beside him. He's wounded. Uh he's like, "This is my second day laying here. I can't move. Both legs are shot through." And you and he's videotaping Ukrainians just walking by. They look at him like, "Fuck off." And they keep going, you know, retreating. Uh and he's just like, "Yeah, yeah, they left me here to die." And and this is common. So, you know, all those nafu morons, go ahead and sign up. Zilinski needs you. He needs to earn money off of you. By all means, don't be on Twitter and or X and go fight since they're also such heroes of uh for Ukraine. Um, so, that's the situation. >> But, uh then there there's the counter situation one. Uh yes, there's a lot more drones uh and not necessarily the short range drones, but longer range drones. Europe is uh is building drones. Um and there's been a lot more drone flights into Moscow or the edges of Moscow. Um and as we've said before, they primarily uh target uh aart apartment buildings, soft targets. U they did get into the u the Luke Oil uh Moscow refinery. I I know the refinery pretty well. We were building I was a supply chain director uh on con on project uh for we were building an extra uh portion to to uh to process E 95 uh pro. So that for whatever reason uh uh for whatever reason Gasprom and Ya didn't put up any nettings. They didn't put up anything uh in there. Uh there were two hits and a near miss that hit a building. Uh there was a drone that was taken out right before uh the refinery and it fell on a building a a small office building. I think it was one story maybe two-story building these long bu modular buildings and that caught fire you know because they kind of do have gasoline on board uh for their uh their internal combustion engines. And then they took out two uh fuel storage facilities. That's why you saw the big lid flying up uh on the videos. So that that was that. And it's been shown that video has been shown from every direction they can to say, "Oh, all of Moscow is burning." Well, if all of Moscow is one big refinery, then it's partially true. Those are allowed to burn out. Yeah. They make a lot of smoke. They make a lot of fire. Uh there's uh some residual damage. Uh so that that's being fixed. Uh refinery is down right now. It'll be up probably within a week, maybe two weeks. That's normally the the turnaround from one of these attacks. Nobody hits the refineries themselves because you don't get the you don't get the media buck uh from hitting the refinery, the the the piping they burn. >> Yeah. Lots of people lots of people are talking about there being fuel shortages like gasoline shortages. Is that true or is that just yet another propaganda line from the west? Um partially true partially true there's in the city of Moscow no uh in the suburbs of Moscow it's partially true in that uh there is shortages at gas prom uh because that was there Luke Oil Rosf everybody else has uh enough fuel um and they they uh some of them limit you to only 30 liters at a time so you just go to the next one fill up the next 30 liters Uh there's longer lines because Guspromia was probably about a third of the market. They're down. Uh but no to say that there's shortages that people can't get fuel. No, I I filled up the next day. I did I did tat they I had to go to two different tats to get the full uh buck get the full tank of fuel. Uh I just didn't I could have got that Luke oil, but there was a line there and I didn't want to go to line and uh Titan F didn't really have a line. There's like two cars ahead of me. So, but the uh gas prom were out and and primary because that's their main refinery. Uh it'll be back up online. They all go back up online pretty quickly. Refineries are really difficult to take down, especially with just a drone. You need serious work to uh to take a refinery out. Uh you just it's just it's it's mostly pipes, pressurized pipes. Uh and once the pressure is broken, the computer just closes the valves and that's it. you replace the pipes uh sometimes infrastructure. >> Yeah. How much longer do you think it it would take the Russian armed forces to kind of paint out the whole of Detsk because I mean it's been fairly slow. I mean obviously we had the winter and then the focus shifted over the winter of course but I mean what's your what's your kind of conservative forecast for how long is it going to take a year? Is it going to take 18 months? I mean is it going to be quicker than that? I mean what's your view? Well, first of all, let let's understand things have gone a lot further than Dyetsk. >> Yeah, >> this is not this isn't about uh I'm sorry over Donbos. Uh this is now you know a while ago that the language changed uh and it was a one-word change. uh when villages or towns were taken in Khikav or Sunumi or other areas they were no longer occupied or anything that they were now listed as liberated. So the the mental change is there. Um >> there was to expand its aims to in addition to the four existing oblas >> in my view everything that's Russian should be taken and that's key of straight south to Adessa both sides of the Nepa river is Russian ethnically Russian that's by the way where they're getting most of these conscripts is is out of these cities. Ju just to understand also what's happening I don't know if we covered this last time or not. Uh we may have not. It's been a while. Um first of all, we know Ukraine is a concentration camp. Uh the borders are barbwired. Uh if these guys getting even if when they can get across the barb wire, they will be shot at until they're out of sight. Um and and if they're killed, they're killed. Even if when they're in Romania or they're in Hungary or whatever territory, the Hungarians are a little more careful with because Hungarians tend to get very pissed off and they'll shoot back. The Ukrainians because those are Hungarian citizens, dual citizens in uh Carpatia, but the Muldovans don't shoot back. The Romanians don't shoot back. So, I mean, there's just a video out of a guy paragliding. Uh there's another guy on a trail that that's videotaping and the guy's paragliding. So this had to be somewhere near Carpathia in those areas. >> Yeah, I see. >> And and you can hear the firing the Ukrainian guards. I mean, he's already over the border >> and they're still firing at him to try to take him down just out of spite. Uh that that so Ukraine is a is a concentration camp. It's an open air concentration camp. Well, about uh three weeks ago, news comes out that uh uh that Kiev uh Adessa, Nikolia, and several other cities are being uh um uh they're having defensive rings put up, barb wire, um Constantino wire, that is dragon's teeth, anti-tank ditches, and minefields. And all the roads are covered by bunkers. And I was on the evening with Saliv and the guys. Oh, I see there. They know the front's getting ready to fall. It's like, you know, gentlemen, that's not it. Think about it. First of all, yeah, the front is is is moving back. It may collapse in certain areas. U I don't deny that, but movement is still very slow comparison because of drones until you get those Chinese microwave u dishes out that the Chinese uh paraded in their last uh big parade that three of them out that can suppress uh everything in f within a 5 kmter range. no terrain dependent of course. Um they just burn out. It's it's an EMP uh on on a microwave. They just burn out all the electronics of everything uh in front of it. So it doesn't matter what it's a they burn little birdies and butterflies out too. But you know everything falls out of the sky at that point and your radio stops working. Any other electronics that gets fried too. Well, until then, your movement is still going to be slow no matter what. Compared to, you know, say World War II or uh on a breakthrough in World War II, there's plenty of time to set up uh defensive positions. And defensive positions like these obstacles, unless they're o overcovered by direct and indirect fire, they're pointless. At the most on a modern battlefield, you'll slow down a force for a couple hours as they punch a hole through. You can use a Miklick or other rocket systems to go through minefields. Worst case, first tank turns its turret around uh and drives through that minefield till it blows up on something. The second tank comes up behind it and starts pushing it forward, evacuates the crew, hopefully they're still alive, and just starts pushing the next that destroyed tank forward and you've got a a plow that goes through that minefield. That's, you know, again, if you're under fire, that's a lot harder to do than if there's nobody firing at you. It's just an open field. Um, ditches get filled in fast. Dragon's teeth, you throw a chain around and pull it out of the way with a tank. Constantina wire, you either cut through it or you pull it out of the way, too. And and then cut through it. It's it's a two-hour challenge. Uh, you know, before your battalion's through going forward, uh, if they're directly covered by fire, indirect fire or direct fire, that's a whole different reality because while you're trying to clear them, you're getting shot. U, but they don't have the forces to do that. So why are they putting these up? Well, Kiev is a prime example. Kev uh population grew because uh what the Ukrainians were primarily doing is they're scooping up all the men from the small villages and small towns. Well, they've run out of men basically is what we're down to. And a lot of those men moved to Kiev. They moved to Petetro. They moved to these bigger cities. They either rented apartments or they just hid with relatives and so on. So those populations actually grew. Yeah. You you remember two 2024 K is having street festivals 25 at the beginning K was still having street festivals. That's not lost on on the Russian population. If we're these guys, why the hell are they having street festivals? It wasn't lost on the American taxpayer either when they they stopped showing those street festivals. People are starting to ask, you know, if there's such a bad situation, we're having to pay for everything. Why are they having street festivals? We can't afford street festivals, but they could have street festivals. Well, they just had a big concert um a couple of weeks ago is on I saw it on X. I don't if you saw it a big sort of rock lot rock sol musician I don't really never heard of but obviously younger people than me know about but this big open air sort of music festival just a couple of weeks ago I saw Yeah, which was surprising. >> Oh yeah, it it it hasn't been but the the thing is is the men weren't being scooped up. But what you would call that is a is a nature preserve. you know, of the of the male Ukrainian species. Uh, and now they're being scooped up. Well, like I said, Ukraine is a big concentration camp, open air concentration camp, but it's a big place. So, the men start running out of the city. Why do you put up a Constantina wire defensive works? It's not to keep uh the Russians out. It's to keep the Ukrainians in. Try running across a field in the middle of night when you got Constantino wire out there that you have to cut through and then you got a minefield on the other side. Never mind. Well, a tank ditch is not that hard to get through. Try driving through. You're not going to drive through. Any of the roads are covered by uh bunkers and machine gunners. You're not getting out. This is this was put up for harvesting the sheep. Now, the sheep are in the pen and they they're not going anywhere. These guys are now into they're not just grabbing people the streets. They're quite literally breaking windows in and climbing into people's apartments or breaking doors down and getting into their apartments. uh the the harvest is at full swing which there's a theory that the reason u Zalinsky wants to start a war with Barus is to give them a an opportunity to do a full mobilization of of you know the the 16 17 year olds and everybody's making money off of this. Let's not forget the pigs are at the trough and they're chomping down hard. And the uh the press gangs, they've pulled out $4 billion out of the Ukrainian economy. Part of which goes into Zilinsk's pocket up the chain. It's a mafia state. Every Dawn and Subdawn has to give the upper Dawn his his cut. Um, so that's that's where they allow themselves to be filmed. It's it's commercial. You don't want this. You get a white piece of paper that says you're not fit for duty or you're uh you know you're you're in a key position. Uh, and that that's $5,000. You get caught, that's $10,000 to get out. You get to the medical, uh, that's about 20 grand to get out. Most people don't have that money. They go off to the front. But those that do, they come but their relatives come bring the money in and these guys get rich. Um, >> so you think you think you think Russia's basically kind of has the money and the manpower and the material to just keep grinding it out until Kiev and its European backers basically collapse and unable to kind of uh hold on anymore. I mean that's that's frankly long been my assessment that uh that that Russia has the resources to kind of keep going at this for as long as it takes while sort of the Zilinski regime slowly implodes and as do the kind of European globalist backers that support him. >> In a perfect world, yes, we're not in a perfect world. Actually, uh it's Zalinski uh too because Zalinsky keeps making money uh off of the people he's sending to a front. Uh, so he he this while Russia's conserving its manpower and wiping out the Ukrainians, Zalinski is making money. Uh, but why why accelerate? Because I think the Europeans have figured that out, too. And they're going to lose in the long run. Um, and Zalinski is getting more arrogant. Uh, and the Europeans are at a loss, the non-Russian Europeans, the other 58% of Europe. the uh so they're at a point where they need to hurry this up before England is in flames, Ireland is in flames and then we'll see where it goes jumps uh as a contagion to which other countries. >> Uh I think that the local ethnos has finally figured out that they're being replaced and that's the whole aim uh in in the UK and in Ireland and many other countries. uh whether they're being replaced by Ukrainians like the checks uh in the Poles or whether they're being replaced by you know North Africans or Middle Easterners or whomever. I think the bad the cat's out of the bag on that one. Kind of hard to uh to ignore that fact. But the point here is uh drones are flying deep. Absolutely they are. And you can overpower any anti-aircraft system if you throw enough things at it. even if it has a 100% kill rate, it does run out of ammunition. Sooner or later, it has to be reloaded. And that's what happened with the uh refinery. They took out everything. They ran out of missiles, had it, you know, they took two waves out and then there's a very small but but effective third wave that came in uh while they were reloading. So that's and it becomes a race, you know, up up the anti-air uh versus how many drones can somebody manufacture. Uh luckily for Russia, you know, the anti-aircraft missiles aren't put together by hand. They're slapped together on a very large large assembly line, but they are getting deeper and people are getting pissed. Uh lately, you know, I think Estonia has been let know that uh they're now a legal target and there's mysteriously not too many drones flying through Estonia these days. Uh that the Ukrainians lifting off from Latvia and Estonian flying in. Uh when those drones got turned around, they started smacking things inside Estonia and Finland. Uh and Latvia, I think they they uh well, they might have shite themselves. The Latvian government had a change. Uh so that that's one effect, but this is a bit different uh because they're flying directly out of Ukraine. And yes, the mood is is very angry. Uh you know, the the problem with the Euros is uh they buy into their own BS. you know, when when the government types buy into their own propaganda, you have a lot of problems. And they have and they think that this is uh you know, Putin just woke up one morning, scratches ours, and said, "Let's invade Ukraine." And if you make it painful enough, the Russians will just go away. They they'll admit defeat, and they'll they'll pay reparations. They'll kill they'll all go out on Red Square and commit mass suicide, whatever. whatever fantasy these uh knuckle dragging uh mouth breathing types in the in the Euro Parliament uh in Euro government have uh too much inbreeding. They don't understand existential crisis. They don't understand anger. Uh they really I don't think they really understand that it all it does is piss Russians off even more. And yes, there's massive pressure in inside the Kremlin. There's massive pressure outside the Kremlin to get serious, take the restraints off the military. Look, if if Russia wanted to, it could turn any city conventionally, it could turn any city in Europe, particularly in Ukraine, into a Gaza. We could Gaza, we could Gaza every city in Europe by, you know, if we wanted to. There's no city that's outside of Russian range. England would be a little more challenging than say Poland or Germany, but still uh that that's that's the point. There's massive Russian. We could definitely do it to any part of K. If Russia uh put up its air divisions of strategic bombers, you could turn any piece of the front into a lunar landscape. Instead of having these, is there a bunker there? Let's hit that bunker individually. You just wipe everything out in a in a section of front and then move through whatever's left. Russia absolutely has that. It hasn't been using that. Uh it hasn't hit the bridges. And don't lots of people come up with coping excuses on why they haven't hit the bridge. It's a strictly political uh decision. any military uh strategy, any military planning, the first thing you do is you cut off the enemy's logistics. When you develop the battlefield at a theater uh level, you cut off the logistics. That's your number one aim, not the guy in the trench in the front. Uh that's not your aim. That guy is going to be taking that's the aim of the uh somebody on the level of a platoon, a company, a battalion, maybe a brigade. Uh that's that's his aim. what do I do with a guy in front of me? When you're getting theater level, you're not looking at the guy in front of you. You're looking at what's feeding the guy in front of you. You're looking what's arming the guy in front of you. You wipe out the logistics. You wipe out the uh uh that that's that's on a theater level. You go on a strategic level, you go past just logistics, you go, where's the electricity coming from? Where's the uh where's the factories? Where's the input uh into that country? You wipe everything out. That's how you fight a large war. That's the fact that the bridges over the Neper are just now the the bridges in Zaparosia have been uh targeted. Not even the bridges, the entry points on the bridges to be more spec because the bridges themselves weren't hit. They weren't missed. They weren't hit. You know, the on a if if you just released the generals, those bridges would have been gone uh by 23. And the excuse of oh, you know, they're Soviet construction. They're made to withstand a nuclear blast. They're really hard to take down. that that's great. You hit enough ordinance on any bridge or any structure, it will go down. Sure, it may take five times more ordinance than something uh more modern, but it'll still go down. You cut the logistics. That's the number one thing. And say, "Oh, the Russians are going to use those bridges." That's [ __ ] Pardon my French. For several reasons. One, by the time you get up there, uh the retreating army is going to blow those bridges. Every retreating army blows its own bridges as the retreats to slow down the enemy. Uh so no, those bridges wouldn't be standing anyway because Ukrainians would blow them. Uh so you still have to use pontoon bridges and things like that to get across the I mean that's just a fact of life. So that's just a coping mechanism. This is a political decision. This is strictly political decision. Why? I can't tell you. Anybody anybody who's not sitting there with Ladim Ladimri in his inner circle is not going to be able to tell you. If they're telling you that and they're not sitting there, they're they're just, you know, uh they're lying. Uh they're they're blustering. Uh I I I haven't been invited to the Kremlin for a planning miss session, so I don't know. But uh that's strictly a political decision. That's not a military decision, but the pressure is on. The pressure is very much so on. You've got Russia is not a unitarian government. Nobody there are no such things anywhere outside of maybe the village hitman. uh you know the uh any any large nation has fra factions and fractions inside the government. Uh and there's uh there's a fa there's several factions inside the Russian government. One of them wants particularly the oligarchs. They want to return the more liberal members. They want to have good relations with the US and the west. They want to go back to 2012. Um Dimmitri I think is is part of that. But Dimmitri is not really part of the government. He's uh he's like Woodco. uh they're they're something else >> entirely. The on the flip side uh you know I think Ushikov is in the in the more liberal camp and a lot of these oligarchs are in the more liberal camps. They're just because they're their number one thing is I want to start earning money again. On the flip side, you have people like uh you have Midv uh you have Shyu, you have um most of the generals uh several other top people who are in and I think Lavro is is in the the camp of uh you know it's well past time to take the velvet gloves on and put the spike gauntlets on and start start working for real. And that's what you hear from you know what I hear from uh the military guys from generals down the front the front line uh soldiers is they want peace after you know capitulation uh in the west at least in Kiev the what everyone's afraid of is some kind of deal and I think finally I think what we're hearing is that whatever the spirit of Anchorage I mean that was one hell of a spirit that that was in Anchorage uh They finally g more or less given up on it. Like Trump Trump I mean Trump signed up for everything the G6 the other G6 wanted from him at the G7 meeting. Plus you know the US has never stopped this this it's absolute BS. Oh we're selling weapons to NATO for money NATO doesn't have. You're still delivering weapons. They're just given to NATO and NATO's moving them into Ukraine instead of uh the US doing it directly. Uh US intelligence is still working. US just handed over a bunch of drones. You know, Congress just gave another nine billion dollars uh to Ukraine. I I guess it's it's a it's a construction season in Maryland. They need to put up a bunch of new McMansions for the the senators, their third, fourth house. No, really, if you talk to people, the mansions are going up like crazy all over Maryland and places like that. Uh the American senators are are cashing in or congressmen are cut cashing in hard. Um, and you you get uh you know, and the the Pentagon just handed over another half a billion a couple months ago. So, the money is still flowing. It's mostly flowing from the Europeans now, though. But the weapons are still flowing. The intelligence is still flowing. Everything else is still flowing. So, nothing's changed uh on the battlefield uh from that point of view. So, yeah, the anger's the anger's palatable. Uh people want uh the question would Iran too is if Iran smacked 13 American bases uh around and fed America the American military its teeth and it did. The great vaunted US Navy that could beat anybody in the world spent the that entire conflict running in circles uh in the Indian Ocean trying not to become a reef. Uh so there's that. And the question is what are we weaker than Iran? We're a hell of a lot bigger and we're a hell of a lot stronger and we're self-sufficient. Why aren't we smacking NATO feeding NATO its teeth uh from edge to edge and you know there's no nuclear war with Iran. >> Yeah, that's really I mean it's it's fascinating because there's there's no appetite at all actually in Europe to end the war. It's quite remarkable given the the bad economic and political state Europe is descending into that nobody seems to want the war to win and I I don't see any change in that. So that that kind of points towards a uh an absolute victory in which Zilinski's regime is toppled essentially, right? I mean it's it doesn't seem possible to kind of go on to the Bellarus thing to segue onto that. It doesn't seem possible to make any deal with Zilinski. He just doesn't want a deal as far as I can see. And uh he's now becoming increasingly sort of uncontrollable. the whole spat with Poland that's been going on, the whole kind of saying, well, he'll decide which Europeans join peace talks, you know, with Russia now threatening threatening to attack Barus, you know, with the Ukrainian army. I mean, the guy is just becoming increasingly unhinged. But the problem is that the European political leaders are just are just entertaining him in doing that that nobody's calling out calling him out on it. And that is dangerous, right? I mean, that is really dangerous. So, I mean, you know, the removal of Zilinski, I should imagine, must be Russia's core aim, right? I mean, some sort of deal with Zilinski is impossible. Not right now. Uh, no, there's no deal with Zilinski. Uh, but, uh, removing him is not Look, Zilinski is the owner of of of Europe. I mean, he owns the non the non-Russian Europe. He owns Europe. Let's let's be realistic. He owns you. He tells you what to do. When Europe, what what did Zilinsky do last uh when Europe was trying to figure out uh who to send to the negotiations are basically dead now? Anyways, they're still debating, you know, who do we send to negotiations when or I've been told negotiations are off. There's they're pointless and they're off. Battlefield is where it's going to be settled. What does Zinsky say? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I decide who goes from the European Union. Not you little uh mouth breathers. I decide. You will give me a list and I'll tell you who I pick. And what did the Europeans go? The European leadership go do. Uh okay. You know, did you did you hear anybody go, "Oh, you know, sit down crack baby." Uh I I I fully agree with uh with Bennett for once. Uh Bessett, I'm sorry, not Bennett. Besset. I'm hard to believe it's the end of the world. Yeah, I actually agree with Besset on something where he said, you know, that that little sneaky [ __ ] uh and that Mr. Bean on crack, though. I think I I don't know if this was a jest or not, but I heard that Mr. Bean was suing the actor that plays Mr. Bean. I can't remember his name, but yeah, that Mr. Beam is a nice wholesome character. He's not on, you know, he pays things with his own money. He's not on doesn't do illegal substances, but yeah, Mr. Beam on crack. Mr. Bean on crack uh is his drive is to make sure Europe's population decreases severely and and it's he's going to have it at effect. Europe is going to take the problem is is let's be realistic. Most Europeans are clueless what war is. It's over there. Sure, we'll back the Ukrainians. the last Ukrainian baby that you could shove into an organ grinder uh to to get or cut up the for organs or for a pedophile or you know strap a grenade on to and and shove the pram toward a Russian soldier. Yeah, we'll back the Ukrainians. Ah, we're fighting for their freedom. Freedom to be dead. Uh that's what the vast majority of Europeans think that they're until that first missile arrives and says, "Hello, this is war." until those uh German uh uh underground gas facilities go kaboom and winter comes and you know th those commercials about making a little heaters with uh with uh uh planting uh uh uh voses and a little uh uh with a little uh candle until those heaters become reality for most Germans. But by that point their their sons and daughters are going to be rounded up by press gangs and sent off to die in mass too. I think the East Germans will be rebelling uh and there'll be a civil war by that point because they're not going to go uh they've been denoxified. The West Germans are never denoxified. Let's remove the symbolics. But until it's their turn to go die, they're not going to have any clue because it's not their they've got no skin in the game. Sure, their economy is collapsing. Uh, sure, they're living like uh crap, but the the elderly are still getting their paychecks and they they'll support the the Greens, the Christian Democrats, and the rest of the end. >> Uh, and they're for a third of the population. Uh, so until that happens, until war comes to the rest of these European countries, they're clueless and they don't care. They're flat out. I mean, let's be honest, nobody gives a damn how many Ukrainians die. >> Nobody. Not the average guy on the street. I mean, the the Europeans are talking about sending back Ukrainian male refugees. >> Yep. >> Uh I mean, whenever I go to my gym, it's a workout quite a lot. Uh every week I go to my gym, there always several Ukrainian dudes in expensive gym kit. And and to to be honest, I don't blame them. I wouldn't want to be in Ukraine either. So, I don't I don't blame them for that. But, I mean, yeah, you know, it's just like you see Ukrainians everywhere. And fair enough, they're fleeing this ridiculous war. I don't blame them at all. But uh but yeah, I think uh you know, I think you're right. As as soon as the first missile I mean I dread this scenario happening, but I think uh the first missile landing in Europe will be a massive wakeup call that actually if you want to get serious, this is what it's what it's going to look like. And but I"

Also, I wonder whether that would actually finally make people wake up and say, "We need to end this through talks?" Because I see nothing really changing the calculus short of that right now. Nothing at all. Uh, changing the calculus. I think as soon as... because I think part of the problem is, is that, you know, Europe and Britain have become so propagandized towards war, uh, the ordinary people are just starved of information about what's what's really going on. And, and I think if if ordinary people start seeing Russian missiles landing, that's going to make them sit up and ask, "Well, what, you know, why haven't we been trying to end this sooner than now?" I think, I think that could be a tipping point. What are your views?

Oh, absolutely. Look, I mean, the Belfast Accords came because of what? Because the IRA moved the war into London. Uh, as long as it was over there in Belfast, somewhere in Northern Ireland, the average uh Brit didn't give a damn. The average Scott didn't give a damn. The average Welsh didn't give a damn. Sure, they they gave a damn if they were family members of a policeman or of a soldier that died. It's just the IRA's finally, I'm sorry, the the other terrorists, the IRA. It's just, it's just the the IRA. I had to do a jab at these guys. Um, they, they, I mean, they under Biden, they hired like 85,000 armed, uh, uh, tax agents. Think about that, man. The tax agents coming in there with an assault rifle. You know, this is a, that's a whole brand new world right there, baby. But...

>> They have Ukrainian accents.

>> Or or Israeli accents.

>> Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's true.

>> The uh uh the IRA when they figured out, you know, killing cops and and soldiers in Belfast is pointless because the aristocrats don't give a damn how many of them die. Uh, as long as the war isn't is is over there, the conflict is over there. The moment they moved it into London, things became very real. Uh, you know, the first explosions in London, the taking frying out computers inside the Bank of London, uh, which is a genius move, uh, things like that. Yeah, that that that changed the calculus very quickly.

>> Yeah, I think that's right. And whenever people, um, people throw around this appeasement idea, which I, I absolutely hate when people talk about that, talking about the Second World War, but the reason why Britain and France basically sold out Czechoslovakia is because they didn't want to have to do any fighting themselves. I mean, that's...

>> Yep.

>> And it's exactly the same with Ukraine. We're selling out Ukraine because we don't want to have to do the fighting ourselves. And only when the Germans start loading their tanks into into Paris, well, okay, game on. But, uh, you know, all of the time we're trying to get other people to fight war so we don't have to. And I think it's, it's quite shocking, quite frankly. And Ukraine is a classic example of that. You know, nobody gives a crap about Ukraine in the UK. Oh, we talk about our, you know, our values and so on. Ukrainian values aren't our values. I mean, I don't share the same values with people living on my street. I mean, you know, it's just like, what are values? Uh, it's just total, it's total nonsense. It's just because people hate Russia so much, it seems to me. Uh, you know, you see every time you see Anne Applebaum on the TV or or Vadim Sakorski, kind of, my heart sinks. But these are the guys who take up all the air time on on the Western TV. And I think that is part of the problem. We just hate the, we hate the idea of of the war ending and us realizing that actually Russia's won. And we've been saying all this time that that we would beat Russia. And I think that that is preventing peace. Uh, sadly, very, very sadly. But these maniacs are in charge of the kind of lunatic asylum, you know. I mean, that's just how I see it. It's desperate. And...

>> Yeah, uh, we got a new Labour prime minister coming in. I don't see any change coming from him. I think the whole situation looks pretty desperate right now. Sad to say. So maybe, maybe you're right. Maybe Karaganov is right. Maybe that wakeup call, that archic way, the wakeup call called arnik is is maybe the thing that's going to make people sit up and think, "Actually, is this really what we want? Do we want, and do we really want World War II?" Because I think most ordinary people just want to look after their kids and be happy.

>> Oh, absolutely. Yeah. You know, I, I said this on Russian television, uh, well, I started saying this, uh, back in 200, was it 2023? And if we don't escalate and hit hard, we're going to get to a point where the only way we're going to stop world a nuclear exchange is to wake up Europe by hitting something. What's there to hit that's close enough to Europe that's not, uh, well, close up to the EU, that's not part of the EU, not part of NATO? Cities, a city like Lviv. And I still say the same thing, sooner than later. You know, fly some drones in, drop some leaflets. You have 24 hours to clear the city. After that, you die with the city. You know, it's your problem if you don't clear. I'm sure most of the people get the hell out. Um, if they don't, well, you know, it's it's their own fault. They've been warned. And then drop a one megaton nuclear bomb on there. And then that's tomorrow, gentlemen. That's going to be Warsaw. That's going to be Berlin. That's going to be, uh, Paris, Lyon, and so on. You've been warned. This is your final warning. Next, we start working turning Europe into a nuclear desert. And the thing is, is you hit Paris, uh, you've taken out all of, with the fallout will take out most of, up up into Belgium and into the Netherlands. And let's be realistic, Europe is a, is a, uh, a hamster cage. All the hamsters are very, very close together. You take any one part out, the fallout covers a lot of territory. It's not Russia where you know, you go on and on and on. You know, the average distance between cities in Russia is, uh, you know, 150, 200 kilometers, sometimes 300 kilometers between major cities, 400 kilometers. You know, 400 kilometers, you've driven across one European country. So, if if anything, if we just target the military bases that may hold American nuclear weapons right off the bat, that's Belgium, that's, uh, that's the UK, that's, uh, Germany, that's the Netherlands, that's Italy, soon to be Poland, soon to be Finland. I think Spain also is in that. That that's pretty much all of Europe. Just if you target those, uh, nuclear stockpiles that the US leaves all over the place.

>> Yeah.

>> And you don't need to hit very much harder. You, you've destroyed the crop lands for at least another 10 years from the fallout until it gets cleaned up. Uh, you've got massive secondary effects. You know, that's that's the reality of it.

>> Crazy, crazy times. Let's hope for a peaceful settlement. I, I'm not optimistic at all. I'm really not either.

>> I think Zelensky is the biggest, uh, threat to Europe. People say, well, they're fighting to keep us safe. No, I mean, Zelensky is the biggest threat to European peace and security. It seems to me. And, and the thing is, we've created him. I mean, we, you know, he is a creature of our creation. So we can't even have the luxury of complaining about it because we've made Zelensky who he is.

>> Oh, yeah. Look, look how many people in the EU has Russia killed? Shall we start on how many attacks Ukraine has carried out against the EU? Uh, not, not a... Well, we had the, the Polish bombing that killed two farmers. Uh, EU, Hungary, Slovakia, and Romania all have had their, uh, uh, oil facilities hit by Ukraine, uh, sabotage units. Uh, various drones flying. And in fact, those four drones, you know, you had Mika Zlocus, who's, uh, who's head of the PPR party, former member of parliament, in Romania, flat out said, you know, those those drones were heading for two facilities in Constanța. They're heading for the fuel storage, and they were heading for the fertilizer storage.

>> Anybody doesn't remember, uh, what that means, they need to go take another look at Beirut when I'm pretty sure it was the Israelis that suddenly with that explosion on the fertilizer, the nitrate explosion. Um, that would have been Constanța from from two explosions. The only thing that stopped those drones is the Romanians had set out, uh, uh, buoys, anti-spill buoys for the oil. Uh, that and they're long and they flow because the oil is lighter than water. It floats on top of the water and it stops from there. And that stopped those those drones. And enough people came out and videotaped those drones, those very obviously, let's tell the truth, British-made, Ukrainian-used drones, uh, that that you can't deny. Uh, that once those videotapes, and then the Ukrainian, oh yeah, we we lost control of drones. They were going to sabotage it. And anybody would have a brain knows that that was going to be the black, uh, swan, uh, to get the EU into the big war and start dying in mass. Uh, and they would have killed probably half the population of Constanța. It's not Russia doing this. It's the, you know who killed the Azeri sailors on two ships, including the captain, uh, Arjan, that those feeding Ukraine with, uh, with 120 millimeter shells. Oh, yeah, that was, uh, Ukraine who killed, uh, who who struck a Greek freighter filling up with, uh, Chevron and Kazak oil. Yeah, that was a Ukrainian, uh, drone. Who hit the the Turkish freighter in Turkish waters, plus a bunch of other freight, Turkish or a bunch of other freighters in Turkish waters coming out of the Bosphorus Straits. Yeah, that was Ukraine who sunk a a Turkish military cutter. That was Ukraine.

>> Yeah, crazy times. Crazy times. We need to kind of end it now. And, uh, yeah. Um, yeah.

>> So, non-EU, non-NATO countries attacking EU and NATO at will.

>> Uh, yeah, crazy, crazy. Yeah. Anyway, let's try underline there, my friend. It's good. It's like, not, not, it's not depressing talking to you, but it's a, it's a, it's a chilling, it's a chilling reminder of just the the terrible situation we've allowed ourselves to be dragged into by by an unelected dictator, corrupt dictator like Zelensky. So, let's hope for something.

>> I thought you meant Ursula von der Leyen.

>> Well, yeah. And Kai Cast. I mean, that the cast list is long. It'll take another hour to mention all the names, but we don't have the time. Thanks always, my friend. It's always good to talk. Well, we'll actually get to meet in September when I come to Russia for the first time in seven years. You'll be able to say hello to my FSB kind of followers as well and maybe get to know.

>> Hey buddy, didn't we have coffee yesterday? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I got him taken care of. Don't worry.

>> He's working for now. Yeah. He's he's the he's one of Putin's, uh, dogs.

>> Yeah. Right. Thanks as always for chatting. Thanks everybody for watching. Please do like and subscribe to this channel. As always, wherever you are in the world, whatever your nationality or religion, I wish you very much peace. I'm the peacemaker. And thanks, Stas. Let's do this again sometime soon.

>> Absolutely. Absolutely.