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Watch what happens when Joe Rogan confronts Gad Saad on Israel and Gaza and gets absolutely educated. Take a look.
Initially, on October 7th, people were very outraged at the attack on the Israelis. They were horrified at what happened. The videos that we saw were terrible. Videos of people cheering in the streets when they were bringing the Israeli captives.
But then, the difference between the capability of the Palestinians in Gaza versus the Israeli army, which is one of the most ferocious and capable armies in the world, and the devastation that they did to Gaza, the city, just the city alone, where you see apartment buildings, hospitals, everything just blown to smithereens. There's a complete difference in power.
The What you're talking about in Syria, I'm assuming this is a civil war.
It's a civil war. Similarly armed people killing each other.
Well, it's the government versus militia, but
Right. But similarly armed people.
So, what makes
Seeing that with Gaza and Israel. With Israel, you're seeing United States-funded Israeli military, which is insanely capable, destroying an entire city. Fair enough. I I I I see.
Images are very tough. I There's no question. But the reality of the numbers is very tough, too, because we don't even know how many people are dead. We could talk about the numbers if you want to segway, but let me ask you this. If October 7th hadn't happened, I I'm not I'm not being flippant, I'm not playing games. I'm really honestly asking you. If October 7th had not happened, how many of the innocent Palestinians that tragically perished would have perished?
That's a good question. Probably it would have never happened. There probably would have been a bombing of Gaza. You know, that we can get really dark here, because there's a lot of people that believe that this it was allowed to happen so that they could have an excuse to attack Gaza. But that goes to our earlier point about how
It gets it gets goofy, and I'm not the person to comment on that cuz I don't really know, but there was stand down orders. We know that we know that on record Netanyahu has said that they fund Hamas so they can control the size of the flame because they don't want the democratic democratically elected people to take over and turn Palestine into a state. So you don't you don't think there's something.
Isn't that Yeah, true? Well, uh Israel left if if I'm getting my history right, they left Gaza in 2005, right? Is that Is that the right number? Do I Am I getting that right? So from 2005 till 2023 or maybe 2007, so someone will correct me in the comment section. For many, many years Israel left and there was no problem in the region, right? Is that true?
Well, I don't know. You would know better than me.
Well, well, there was no problem. I mean, there Okay. Then there was a catalyst, an event happened. Now, we can debate whether it was proportionate, whether it could have been, you know, adjudicated differently. We can discuss all that. And all that you can discuss it without ever worrying about being called anti-Semitic. It's totally within the fair bounds of having those conversations. But what is true is that if Israel wanted to eradicate Palestinians, it would take them a lot less time than when you and I have been talking on the show. By orders of magnitude. It would take 15 seconds, but they didn't do that, right? They don't do that.
As a matter of fact, John
But they kind of have in Gaza. Gaza is done. There's almost nothing left of it.
So the numbers that I'm seeing
You're seeing videos of it, right? You see what it looks like when they fly overhead. We we could show some videos.
Sure. So okay, let
The most recent videos, they show the drone videos of flying over Gaza. It looks like a nuclear bomb hit it. It just They did it slowly. They did it over years. Just consistent, constant bombing and there's almost nothing left of it. Right. And there's also been this crazy talk of putting resorts there, you know, and Trump said Yeah, we said that we're going to turn it into the What did he say? Something of the some you know, Like Monte Carlo or Monaco.
Crazy.
Right. Uh again, it's totally fair to discuss what constitutes proportional thing and so on. But I take a broader view, which is Israel exists, and you have two choices. You can keep creating generations of your people whose whose entire daily animation of terms of their objectives is to eradicate that place, or you could recognize that every single millimeter on Earth has at some point been owned by someone else. Is that Is that not true? I mean, is Is the definition of history not the accounting ledgering of who owned what when? Yeah. Now, in every other conflict that has ever existed throughout all of human history, there is a winner of that conflict and a loser, and people move on. Okay?
Mhm.
Just Just hear me out. Okay.
I lived in Lebanon. I grew up in Lebanon. We had to leave under imminent threat of execution. It's very unfortunate. We lost everything. We moved on. We made a life for ourselves. Our home was stolen by Palestinian people. I never held any animus towards Palestinians. I moved on with my life. One day, I was interesting enough to have the privilege of appearing on Joe Rogan's show. My daily animation is not to go and kill people for things that were done to us. And very few people have had things happen to them as what happened to us, right? Jews were exterminated in the Holocaust. It didn't create an endless litany of Jewish terrorists throughout the world trying to get back. So, in every part of the world, we are Now, in Texas, that land was owned by someone else before the United States came along. We are sitting, quote, on stolen land. In Canada, we are sitting on stolen land. It's called history. Most people are able to move on and say, "Hey, the dice went this way or that way. Let's hold hands and let's build a better future." You can't do that if canonically the Jewish state should not exist. Like, doesn't Hamas say in their charter, "Every Jew that is anywhere we will find him and get him." So, does that make sense that they would be the leaders of that region? Wouldn't it have been much better for them to train their kids to becoming neuroscientists and podcasters and classicists and physicians, but that's not what they chose to do repeatedly for nearly 80 years. The minute that that clicks and they say, "You know what? You have this part, we have this part. Let's shake hands and let's be one family." The problem will go away. So, I agree with you. The images are very jarring. Right? I'm I'm also a very empathetic, loving guy, but I also know the reality, which is I've never heard Jews saying, "Let's kill all Muslims." I always hear the opposite. Jews are an existential affront to Islam. Muhammad on his deathbed said, "Promise me that you will rid Arabia of Christians, but really the Jews." So, how could you have a coexistence between two people when one people wants to eradicate the other?
Just round of applause for Gad Saad here. He is taking Rogan to school on what's really happening between Israel and Gaza. Repeatedly, Rogan continues to say, "Well, look at the videos. Look at the, you know, destruction in Gaza." That is the only argument he puts forth. And Gad Saad is trying to explain to him, "You have these people who are dead set on attacking you, almost like suicide bombers, and then they get and then they wonder why. It's like uh you have set yourself on this course of, you know, essentially a jihadistic uh never-ending attack against Israel. You're going to stay in the that you yourself created. Again, it all comes down to my version of geopolitics, which is you around and you find out. And that that is what's been happening with Gaza repeatedly. They around. They they don't learn their lesson and then they stop for a few years and then they, you know, you know, calm down and then they around again and then they find out and it happens again and again and again. And if they would just learn to maybe like like stop doing that, then we could have peace. Then we can have uh you know, genuine talks towards potentially integrating them within Israeli society. And just like Gad Saad pointed out in this video, he asked Joe Rogan a very simple question. If October 7th does not happen, does Gaza turn into this pile of rubble? And Rogan has to respond, "Probably not. Yeah, probably that never occurs." And so really it does come down to their decision to go and attack Israel on 10/7. So just I want to tip my hat to Gad Saad here for helping Joe Rogan a little bit see the light on Israel and Islam and what's really happening in the Middle East. Thank you for watching and I'll see you in the next one.