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Matt Barnes Explains How the Iconic Kobe Bryant 'No-Flinch' Moment Put Him in Danger

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This is what we got to know right here. Gotta know right here. We gotta talk about this coming, the infamous Baseline ball fake. Yeah, Walker's through the lead-up, the build. Because I mean, I've had, I've had, you know, instances in games where I get into it with somebody and for a moment, it's just like, alright, it's a game within the game. I'm going [ __ ] with this [ __ ] now. Like, it ain't, I might not necessarily be that mad or or that pissed off. It's just, I'mma [ __ ] with you now. Yeah. Was that kind of like how that played out?

Ah, I mean, just Kobe and and you know, you caught a little bit of him. Uh, he was just, he was incredible, but he was also, he would try to mentally attack you. So whether it's playing games or elbowing you in your sternum or elbowing you, like he was just doing. He hit, he hit me with probably, he hit me with a sternum shot that knocked the wind out of me. Mhm. I caught it. He tried to go. I think Bing was guarding Dwight. Dwight shot a jump hook. Kobe tried to block it from the backside and I caught it off the rim and dunked it. And as I'm coming down, like he elbows me from like here, here and then hits me in the chin. And the ref [ __ ] ref standing right here. I'm like, [ __ ] you didn't see that? Yeah. You know what I mean? So I, I was to the point where I just was like, enough is enough.

Um, it was the end of March and and and you got to think, Orlando and the Lakers played each other in the finals the year before. So this was supposed to be possibly the finals matchup again. It was late in the season and it was just a, a real back and forth, uh, battle. And I was just to the point I was ready to fight him. And it was a good last game, back and forth. I made him work. I think he had 30 something. I made him take close to 30 shots. It was just one of them games where he was, was will against will. And you know, I end up faking the ball and it wasn't even like, I tell people like to this day, I can still feel the moment. Like it wasn't like I'm going to fake the ball in Kobe's face. Like my [ __ ] arms just did it, you know what I mean? I'm still watching that. The play was a double pick for Vince coming off the backside for a little layup or dunk, but I'm just, my arm, like that's how much I wanted to like fight the dude. And and it was, it was it was funny cuz I, you know, we did his last interview and I told him, we laughed about this [ __ ]. And you know, people know him cuz I told the story now, but like after that season, he called me. And my my situation in Orlando didn't work out. So I was talking to Pat Riley and D Wade about going to Miami. This is the same season Bron and Bosh are coming and they're trying to sell us on what it's going to be. And D and I get a random call from a from a number I don't know. And I just happened to pick it up and it was him. And I didn't believe it was [ __ ] out of here, it was really him. We talk back and forth. What I was going to do. Uh, I mean, anyone crazy enough to [ __ ] with me is crazy enough to play with me. Do you want to be? And you know, four days later, I'm there, you know what I mean? So it wasn't, it went from like again, and it's crazy because the story started in the late 90s, you know what I mean? Just admiring him and seeing him, being around him and kind of being like, that's our bar. Like I missed MJ by one year. So Kobe was our guy, right? You know what I mean? So to be able to compete against him at the highest level, become teammates, and then from there, become brothers. Like we were off the court, you know, hanging out, going to dinner. People say like, you're the only one that ever got Kobe to go out, you know what I mean? We going out in Milwaukee and MB, what you doing? Like, I'm just land, I'm about to go smoke real quick. He's like, well, call me when you're done and we go do something. We go get some food. I'm like, alright, bro, you know? So we kind of just took to each other.

And then, you know, fast forward after after sports and he was coaching Gigi and I was coaching my twins. And we would communicate about watching each other's kids. You know, my my twins were like eight at the time. And this dude, you know, I remember one particular time, like we played at nine and they played at 11. And I didn't think he would come. And this dude came two hours early to watch the M play, you know what I mean? And he would always send the twin shoes. And we would go watch Gigi. And it was just, it it was something that started off at admiration and then it was a mutual respect to why we played. And then we became teammates and and and played together. But then it grew into like a real Brotherhood, um, you know, once became Laker teammates and and that was my dog, man. Yeah.

That's interesting. You said that you were almost a part of that Big Three Miami team though. How like was you? No, I talked to Pat Riley like two or three times. You know, put D Wade on the phone. And he was, you know, and and I don't know if Pat remembers this, if I'm lying, I'm lying. He's like, you know, the closing lineup is Bron, you know, D Wade, you, Mike Miller and Chris Bosh. That's what he was telling us. Like, can you imagine that on the floor? We're all six seven, six eight, you know what I mean? Like switching everything, doing everything. That was kind of the. And I'm like, hell, I'm for it. Like, huh? I'm for it. But then I've always, I grew up a Laker fan, you know what I mean? So you get the call from Kobe. Like, I ain't got no choice but to come. But it was crazy because after I, like I was getting super death threats after that. Like I became like, I was kind of the bad guy, the villain, whatever. But like I became like the real villain after that [ __ ]. Like people said they like on Twitter, they're going to kill me. They're going to find my address, kill my kids, kill my girl. Come to LA, you better never come back to LA. We going to kill. Like they're not, you can't [ __ ] with Kobe. The Messiah in LA. Don't play about the Lakers and Dodgers and particularly Kobe. Like bro, I got so many death threats. I kid you not. And then I came and it was, it was love. But it was like, see, I'mma kill you. It's just crazy cuz your natural reaction be like, oh [ __ ], hold on. No. Still to this day, like I be flinching sometimes. Like, damn, I just flinched. You know what I mean? Like sometimes you just do it. And knowing me too, I'm crazy. I might have just hit you in the face with the [ __ ]. But he would have just had to hit him in the face with the [ __ ]. You know what I mean? Like that's what he was on. So I mean, that's only him. And I've talked about it so much, but it's just like, it it was, you know, obviously a viral moment when things weren't really viral, but it it's really what kind of sparked our our our Brotherhood in in the remaining years of his life.

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