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>> GINGER, THANK YOU. SWORN TESTIMONY IS REVEALING DETAILS ABOUT THE FIRE THAT EVENTUALLY REIGNITED INTO THE CATASTROPHIC PALISADES FIRE. A VETERAN LA CITY FIREFIGHTER SAYS HIS WARNINGS ABOUT THE SMOLDERING SCENE WERE, QUOTE, BLOWN OFF BY A SUPERVISOR. KTLA FIVE'S ANY ROADS RAMOS LIVE IN HOLLYWOOD WITH MORE FROM THAT DEPOSITION. ANY ROSE, GOOD MORNING.
>> HEY GUYS, GOOD MORNING TO BOTH. YEAH, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE HEARING FROM THE LA CITY FROM THE LA CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT FROM AN LA CITY FIREFIGHTER WHO WAS THERE ON THE NIGHT OF THE LACKMAN FIREFIGHTING IT FOR HIMSELF. AND HE SAYS THAT THE GROUND WAS STILL SMOLDERING. THERE WERE STILL HOT SPOTS WHEN CREWS LIKE HIMSELF ORDERED TO LEAVE. AND THAT FIRE EVENTUALLY,
>> TURNING INTO THE DEADLY AND DESTRUCTIVE POLICY IT'S INFERNO.
>> I COULD FEEL THE HEAT COMING OFF OF IT AND I DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO USE MY GLOVED HAND BECAUSE IT WAS HOT. SO I JUST KICKED IT WITH MY BOOT TO KIND OF EXPOSE IT. AND THERE WAS LIKE A RED HOT, LIKE COALS THAT WAS STILL SMOLDERING. I HEARD CRACKLING. SO I, I INITIALLY BROUGHT ATTENTION OF MY CO-WORKERS WHO ARE FIREFIGHTERS. FELT LIKE I KIND OF BLOWN OFF A LITTLE BIT. AND THAT I MENTIONED IT TO THE CAPTAIN.
>> ALL RIGHT, THAT WAS SCOTT PIKE, A 23-YEAR VETERAN OF THE LAFD, TESTIFYING LAST MONTH AS PART OF A LAWSUIT FILED BY 3,000 PALISADES FIRE VICTIMS AGAINST THE CITY AND THE STATE. THE LA TIMES OBTAINING RECORDS OF THE ACCORDING YS OF THE DEPOSITIONS. PIKE SAYS HE WAS IN THE PALISADES FIGHTING THE LOCKLIN FIRE THAT BEGAN ON JANUARY FIRST WHEN CREWS WILL ORDERED TO LEAVE. HE SAYS HE SAW AT LEAST 5 HOTSPOTS THAT WERE STILL SMOLDERING AND EXTREMELY HOT. SO WE REPORTED WHAT HE FOUND, OTHER FIREFIGHTERS AND A CAPTAIN, BUT FELT HIS CONCERNS WERE DISMISSED.
>> IF A CAPTAIN CAN PICK THAT UP FOR ME SAYING THAT AND MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICES, THAT'S ON HIM. BECAUSE THAT'S NOT MY JOB TO OVERSTEP AND TELL HIM WHAT TO DO HERE. AND THAT RAIN DID YOU THE CAPTAIN, WHY HE HADN'T DIRECTED OTHER FIREFIGHTERS TO ABOUT THE AREA BETTER AS YOU PUT IT. NOW, BECAUSE YOU DON'T QUESTION THE CAPTAIN. I JUST WENT BACK TO WORK OF PICKING UP THOSE AWAITING NEW ORDERS.
>> THE LAS ANGELES FIRE DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP HAS INSISTED THAT FLAMES WERE OUT AT THE SITE OF THE LOCKLIN FIRE. AND 11 OTHER FIREFIGHTERS WHO WERE DEPOSED TESTIFIED THAT THE FIRE WAS OUT AND THAT THEY DID NOT SEE HOT SPOTS OR SMOLDERING. BUT SCOTT PIKE GOING ON TO TESTIFY WHAT SOME OF HIS LEADERS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS SAYING WAS NOT TRUE. HE ALSO SAID HE WAS NEVER INTERVIEWED FOR THE CITY'S AFTER ACTION REPORT ON THE PALISADES FIRE.
>> I HAVEN'T REALLY SPOKEN MUCH ON IT BECAUSE IT KIND OF SITS HEAVY WITH ME. BUT NOBODY LISTENED TO THAT. ANYBODY EVER COME TO INTERVIEW IN CONNECTION WITH AFTER ACTION REPORT FOR THE LOCKLIN FIRE? THAT WAS KIND OF WEIRD. I FEEL LIKE REPORT WOULD HAVE INVOLVED INTERVIEWING PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY ON THE SCENE THAT DAY.
>> MAKING CHRIS SOURCES ARE SAYING THAT MAYOR KAREN BASS IS RESPONDING TO THIS TESTIMONY SAYING, QUOTE, IT IS EXTREMELY ALARMING. SAYING THAT SHE IS ALWAYS PUSHED FOR MORE TRANSPARENCY WHEN IT COMES TO LOOKING INTO FURTHER DETAILS OF THE LOCKLIN FIRE AND