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In particular, one of the most famous is an account that Robert Monroe, you know, who founded the, you know, Monroe Institute and so forth that the CIA used to use sometimes as a place to conduct advanced remote viewing. Robert Monroe in his second book, Far Journeys, I think from 1985, basically says that in the course of his astral projections, he discovered that we're living in a control system that is managed by entities who work for a demiurge that's harvesting us for what he called luch.
He said that we're in a louch farm that humans are being deliberately subjected to conditions that create extreme emotional states, uh, extreme suffering, misery, fear, terror, ecstasy, extreme desire, you know, uh, pathological impulses, you know, and these are all being used to basically generate a form of energy that they can harvest from the human soul, including after death, where they basically juice souls for the luch.
Now, uh, there was also a researcher called Carla Turner. Yeah. Who I believe was killed, even though she supposedly died of cancer at the age of 48. The CIA has something that mimics a very fast acting cancer. And they've used this on a number of occasions to kill prominent people, I believe, also including the Shaw of Iran. Really? Yeah. Who else? You remember uh Peter Jennings did this special on UFOs? You remember that in the night whenever it was that he died shortly before his death. Mhm. He did this huge uh special on UFOs for which he had recorded like days and days worth of footage with all kinds of prominent whistle whistleblowers and it was supposed to air on prime time television with him as an air. Yeah, they aired it but what they aired excluded 90% of the material. I didn't know that. Peter Jennings did a UFO special including a lot of whistleblowers. Extensive. I had no idea. Like it was supposed to be like a multi-part program that would air over weeks or something. And he he records this thing gets cancer drops dead. Really? Like within a year of like this program airing. I had no idea to know about any of this. Yeah. What? Yeah. I think that's like Walter Kronite 2.0. So that's another case of it. What? And so I think Carla Turner was killed by this.
In any case, Carla Turner uh did interviews with a lot of uh ex experiencers, abductees who reported the same kinds of things as Robert Monroe did in Four Journeys where they said that we are in a control system that's being managed from out of a metallic sphere just beyond the Earth. And they describe the inside of this thing, but I think going back to our first conversation, what they're describing is the inside of the moon. M That the there is a what we might call using the Soviet language a psychotronic control system, a kind of spectral technology inside of the moon which is impinging on and manipulating humans in the afterlife state. What? And it's not uh omnipotent. Yeah. It's not a flawless system. So, it's possible to assert your free will and self-determination in the face of this system, but it's very difficult. So, a lot of people have had near-death experiences, for example, they describe being pulled toward this light. It's like they couldn't resist going into the light. They tried in some cases, but it was almost as if it was an electromagnet like pulling them into it. Sure. And then when they go into the light, one of the most common things that's described is that people are shown their dead relatives. Mhm. And religious authority figures like Jesus and or or like if you're a Hindu, you see Hindu gods. Interestingly, I'll give you a terrifying case from a Hindu in a minute. So you're pulled into this light and then they show you your dead relatives and they show you Jesus and whatever.
Well, here's a problem, Jesse, is that if you look at Dr. Dr. Ian Stevenson's extremely rigorous research on reincarnation that he did at the University of Virginia for decades on children's spontaneous memories of past lives. All the cases show that the average interval between death and reincarnation is something like it could be anywhere from 6 months to 3 years maximum. It's usually ne not more than several years. Mhm. So, when you are having a near-death experience and your grandmother and and let's say you're in your 60s or Yeah. in your 60s and you see your grandmother who died when you were in your 20s. Mhm. That's You are being shown an artificially generated similacrim of your dead relatives to manipulate you by a psychotronic technology. Oh, this is getting by a psychotronic technology. Will you you really think that? Yes, I do. Really? And I say that as someone who was, you know, at the bedside at at the death bed of a couple of my relatives who were experiencing these things. You know, when people are very close to death, they also see dead relatives come around their hospital beds. very commonly reported and so in the case one case was my great aunt or I was there while she was like describing to not just not describing to she was having conversations with dead relatives that you know the other family members knew oh that's so and so she's talking to so- and so as if he's like in the hospital room and the most striking case was with my own grandmother my Persian grandmother uh you know to whom I owe the fact that I fluently speak Persian because both of my parents worked when I was grow growing up and they would leave me with her during the days and She hardly spoke any English. So I learned like Persian practically as my first language in New York. So I was very close to my grandmother. And when she was dying, this exact thing happened. She starts talking to my dead grandfather. Now my my Persian grandfather died when my father was four. Okay, that guy reincarnated 60 70 years ago. So she's talking to something that's being projected into our mind psychotronically. But how do you know it's being projected psychotronically and it's not just a function of her own age and sort of Sure I mean that's the conventional skeptical response I would say based on what Robert Monroe described in terms of the terrain of the afterlife through his astral projections which then other people at the Monroe Institute were able to replicate and based on the kinds of accounts that let's say Carla Turner got from abductees of being taken to places that were not just like, you know, like space alien bases. There were places where the soul was being handled as some kind of anformational matrix andor energy source. This I mean um John Lear would say that there was like a soul catcher on the moon, but he also was kind of crazy and would say a lot of stuff that you know probably was BS. I guess my point is we don't need to dep I've heard that by the way. I've heard him talk about that. My point is we don't need to depend on him. Other people have said this and let me give you one more example of somebody who's described this is oh god I hope I don't get this name wrong Scott Turner or Scott Scott Trevor or Scott Turner uh was a leader of a uh a team of remote viewers and these are private sector remote viewers I think of the kind who offer service corporate services and stuff like that who did a remote viewing on the word moksha. Moksha. So what was in the envelope was moksha, the target they were blind to. Mhm. Moksha means liberation in Sanskrit. It's like how you get out of the wheel of samsara. And so he does this session with his team and long story short, he comes back with this horrific account that all of them do. Of course, they're all working the same target line to the same target and they're all doing this independently. And then they compare notes and they said that the you can't achieve mosha. Mhm. Because as you try to escape the earth, there's something that grabs you and bends you back toward the earth. Like if you're a ray of light, it's like it bends the light that's your soul back toward the earth like a what do you call them? A lensing effect. M And he said it's originating from some uh celestial body near the earth and that it is part of a vast machinery of energy extraction which was set up in our solar system at the end of a war that devastated the solar system. He said that like millions of years ago there were these horrendous people who wanted to establish this energy harvesting system here and wanted to exploit humanity for this purpose and there was a rebellion against them and the the conflict was waged across the entire solar system. Now this is interesting in terms of what we discussed regarding Mars in our first conversation and the apparent devastation of Mars in some kind of nuclear war according to Dr. Brandenburg. So Turner and his group said um Turner Trevor Scott whatever this remote viewer and his it's going to be in my new book Thanosis but uh you can find it Google remote viewing mosha. Mhm. People were so disturbed by the video that the guy took it down. He has all his other videos up but he took this one down but other people uploaded it to other sites. And uh so he says the rebels who wanted to like preserve human freedom and self-determination didn't want humans to be harvested and exploited this way. They lost the war. And ever since then we've been inside basically this prison where we are spiritually manipulated and harvested for our energy.
When we originally described this site that's a fence or a grid around a place. This acts as a barrier. It collects and traps people, things or objects. This is actually an innocent planet that is being used in an unintended way. And this meters the flow and acts as a checkpoint and an access point for an external force. Uh, one viewer described it as similar to hocus pocus and in a way of it's it's energetics that the viewer wasn't familiar with and it's occurring on a crowded planet. It's a deliberate function that acts as a cage. People have been dispersed here and a form of perverted injustice is occurring. Third viewer described it as a large naturally formed object like a planet that acts as an animal pen. This is a refugee camp tucked away out of sight and a magnetic force. It stirs, agitates, and works in a cylindrical manner like clockwork over a long expanse of time. Uh in my session, my work described a planetary system that's extremely crowded and jammed. Ghostly voices are flooding into this place and it's incredibly harrowing for them. Uh, it's a bone chilling experience. As a viewer, when I remote viewed this, I had descriptions that it made me upset in the session. It elicited contempt for what was going on at the site. But uh the activity at the site was this concept of a net that's been spun. And it's an operation of catch and release on a grand scale. So there's a massive grid that exists around this planet and it acts as a checkpoint, a way point or rest stop where souls are drained and then that in turn energizes something else.
H That's so depressing. I mean how do you have is there any aspirational streak within that? Do you believe in God? Do you think if you I believe in Prometheus. In other words, in other words, the reason that Prometheus has become such a central archetype to my philosophical project because if you look at the structure of this myth, it encompasses all the major elements of most religious belief systems, but in a way that's empowering to humanity.