Red Light Therapy, Morning Routines, and Why Peptides are "Big Pharma's Nightmare," with Gary Brecka

Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly show.

Today we have one of the most preeminent health and wellness experts in the world. Gary Brea is a human biologist, biohacker, and influencer who sits at the helm of RFKJ's Maha Action Committee. That's Make America Healthy Again. Once upon a time, he worked for insurance companies tabulating the expected lifespan of their customers. Now, he uses those same skills to help you beat the odds. He has millions of followers on social media. He has a hit podcast. And he is in demand worldwide as an expert in the longevity space. He's founder of the ultimate human, a movement designed to help you feel better, look better, and live longer naturally. He has many, many prominent fans, including Joe Rogan and UFC President Dana White, who said that quote, "To say [music] Gary Brea saved my life is the understatement of the century."

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Gary Brea, welcome back to the show. Great to see you.

>> I'm [music] so excited to be back, Megan. Uh we had such a great time last time. I felt like our time got cut too short. So maybe we'll have time to take a deep dive on some things today.

>> Same. There is so much I want to ask you about. Let's just start at the beginning. And by that I mean this morning, the Gary Brea morning routine. Go.

[clears throat] [snorts]

>> Yeah. You You want me to just rip it?

>> yeah, let's rip it.

>> So So I have a I call it bookending your sleep, you know. So I have uh a specific sleep hygiene that I use to go to bed and the same thing to wake up. The thing about this routine is that it's easy, it's portable, you can do it anywhere in the world. I've proven it number of times by uh sharing my sleep scores onto Instagram. You know, last year, I think when I did 14 cities in 18 days and was able to maintain 88% and higher sleep scores, even though I was changing time zones every day for 14 days, people's ears perked up and they started to listen because the truth is that sleep is our human superpower. And so, I bookend it by using the same routine to go to bed and the same routine to wake up. So morning routine is within 30 minutes of waking every day uh I find my way outside into natural sunlight. You know what's fascinating about natural sunlight is that it doesn't get the credence that it deserves. Sunlight certain wavelengths that are only in natural sunlight that are constant on. They're flicker-free. I'm not talking about through a window. I'm not talking about through your drapes. I'm talking about exposing your eyes to natural sunlight. This helps set your circadian cycle. So we actually have a clock in our brain. It's called the supra kaismatic nucleus. It's a very sophisticated name for basically the puppeteer in your brain that is setting your circadian rhythm. And what's so important about circadian rhythm is that this is what governs your menstrual cycle in a female. This is what governs your sleep and wake cycle in all human beings. When your cortisol rises, when your melatonin uh calms down, this actually governs your digestive tract. It actually sends signals to your digestive tract that you're awake and paristalsis can begin, which is why most people don't use the restroom um and have a bowel movement at night. They usually have it first thing in the morning. And so the circadian clock is so important not just to longevity, but it's very important to how well we sleep that night. The one thing that you can do that is absolutely free to ensure that you get a good night's sleep tonight is get sunlight in your eyes this morning. So within 30 minutes of waking, I'm outside. I'm in natural sunlight. I realize people live in cold climates. They live in dark climates. This light does penetrate through the clouds. So it doesn't matter if it's overcast. Get outside in sunlight. And I do three rounds of 30 obnoxiously deep breaths. And at the end of each round of deep breaths, I I do a prolonged breath hold. And the science behind this is very valid. In fact, if you really want to be uh blown away by what breath work can do to the human body, regulate the immune system, tap into our autonomic nervous system, just watch the documentary on Wimhof called the Iceman, and you will become a believer in breath work. I think because sunlight and breath work are free, people don't allocate it the same uh level of validity that it deserves. So, I'll do three rounds of 30 breaths. At the end of my 30th breath, and I would encourage you if you're a novice to breath work, just start with five breaths. I do an extended breathold. And the reason for that is it allows the carbon dioxide to build up in my bloodstream. Carbon dioxide is the main vasod diilator in the human body. The reason why we get vascular when we go to the gym and exercise is because of the CO2 going back to the lung. And so we want to dilate that vascule first thing in the morning. This is a very simple way for us to wake up. And our bodies are creatures of habit. They crave routine. You know, when you want your body to trust you, you do the same thing at the same time every day. Give it some consistency. Something that when you're traveling um or when you're in a different time zone or when you're staying in a different environment, sleep environment, you're at a hotel, you're at an in-laws house, something that your body can cue into to know this is time to wake up. And if you make yourself get into sunlight within 30 minutes of waking, do three rounds of 5 to 10 to to 30 deep breaths with an extended breath hold in between. If you do that consistently for seven days, you will never miss another day. It will become your new drug of choice because nothing will make you feel better for longer. It improves your mood, improves your emotional state, gets oxygen to our tissues, gets our digestive tract going, spikes our cortisol, reduces our melatonin, and sets us up for a great night's sleep that night.

You know, [snorts] it's really fascinating, too, and we can get into more detail on this, but if you look at autoimmune disease as a category, 85% of all autoimmune disease is found in females. And why is that? Um, it's not because autoimmune disease is selective by sex.

>> It's selective by weakness. And very often women especially do not feel safe in their own bodies. And by safety, I mean out of the fight orflight response. You know, our nervous system which is regulating everything, not the least of which is cycling in in women. Our nervous system has two states. One is called the sympathetic state, the fight orflight state. One is called the parasympathetic state. The rest and digest state. You want to be in a parasympathetic state to wake up, to go to bed, to digest food, to uh regulate your hormone cycle. So some of these things that we do tell our body that it's safe, things are okay. This is a routine that you can rely on that you can learn to trust. And those habitual patterns are something that if you build over a lifetime will pay tremendous dividends.

>> Oh, that's fascinating. Now, tell me about um you me you mentioned it doesn't matter if you live in a cold environment or an environment where it's dark. You know, our friends in Alaska for example, but you know, typically during the school year, most parents wake up at 6:00 a.m. in that hour because they have kids that they have to get off to school and it's dark everywhere. Pretty much everywhere it's dark at 6:00 a.m. You're not really getting sunlight. Is the rule the same?

>> The rule is the same. If you can't get into sunlight within the first half hour because you're waking up too early. Then after you drop the kids off at school, spend eight minutes outside facing the sun. You know, allow the sunlight to hit your skin. I don't know if you've seen the recent research that's come out on sunscreen and exposure to sunlight, but the incidence of skin cancer is significantly lower in groups that do not consistently use sunscreen. Now, I'm not talking about bathing in the sun for hours. I'm talking about 8 to 12 minutes of direct sunlight. Sunlight has wavelengths. They're constant on wavelengths that pass through your eyes and they trigger very specific activities in the brain. One of which is to tell the super kaismatic nucleus, this master puppeteer, that it's morning. It's time to raise my cortisol. It's time to drop my melatonin. And it puts it onto a very good cycle. You know that we we used to sleep and wake with with the sun. Um, we are so disconnected from the cycle of mother earth now. And our schedules are so discombobulated. Sometimes we get up at 6 a.m., sometimes 9:00 am, sometimes 4:30, depending on whether or not we have a flight, we got to get the kids to school or it's a weekend and we're going to catch up on our sleep. So that consistency gives your body a routine it can rely on. Um, and when you are in dark environments, if you take the kids to school, let's say before the sun rises, when you get back to the house, spend a few minutes outside, do a few rounds of breath work. Very simple. Go back inside and tell me how good you feel when you start your day.

>> Can I ask you about the the studies you mentioned? I thought it was observational, but the on the sunscreens because as somebody who's very fair, you know, I'm I am part Italian. I'm more Irish than I am Italian. Um, but

>> there's no evidence of the Italian.

>> I don't see the Italian in there.

>> No, my grandfather's name was Angelo Deo. I mean, for fresh off the boat from Italy. Okay.

>> But nothing. Um anyway, nothing but the temper. That's I got the temper, the fire, but I didn't get the skin. [laughter]

>> Yeah, that's where you got the um

>> but you know, everyone in my family has had some form of skin cancer. Thank god no melanoma, but like the basil cells and the squeeus and all that stuff. And I actually asked my dermatologist. I'm very very tuned into skin cancer issues. You know, is this possibly true? Like should I be not wearing sunscreen and and my kids? and she was like, "Absolutely not. You you do need to wear the sunscreen and your kids need to wear the sunscreen."

>> And her take on that study was that it's I don't know how to phrase it, but basically the people who aren't wearing sunscreen tend to be darker skinned people, people who aren't like me, who can tolerate the sun much much better than the likes of me can. And so, yeah, of course, they're not going to over long term if you study those people, they're going to say, "Nope, I don't use sunscreen." And they're not going to have skin cancer. Whereas, if you took a bunch of Irish people like me and put us out there for 30 years without wearing sunblock, our cancer rate would be through the roof. So, what do you make of that?

>> That's actually not true. Um, if you actually look at population data, I used to be a mortality expert for a large life insurance company. So, we studied population data, mortality data. I mean, you can make some broad analogies. For example, some of the longest life expecties in the world are centered right around the equator. 20 degrees. Is it longitude or latitude? Latitudeh from the equator. It used to be, it's not this way anymore, but historically as you got closer to the poles, life expectancy was precipitously lower. In fact, when I started my career about 25 years ago, Eskimos, true Eskimos, had the shortest life expectancy of any race on Earth. And when you got closer to the equator, you extended life expectancy. So it's not whether or not you can use sunscreen, it's the type of sunscreen that you use. So if you were to actually look at skin cancer trends, because we've known about skin cancer for decades before the advent of uh aerosol sunscreens and topical sunscreens, we knew that there were skin cancer existed. Look at skin cancer rates in the 40s, 50s, 60s,7s. What you'll find is if you you if you superimpose a chart, now this is correlated, not causal. So you could call it anecdotal, but if you were to superimpose a chart of the parabolic horizon in skin cancer, it would be superimposable with the parabolic use of sunscreen. Does that mean that you shouldn't be using sunscreen? No. It means that you should be using a type of sunscreen that has titanium dioxide or what's called nonnano zinc. You want things that sit on the surface of the skin and reflect sunlight. What you don't want because the skin is not just a barrier. It is a gateway. It is a gateway directly into the bloodstream. It's the largest organ in our body. And so we eliminate waste through the skin. One of the reasons why sauna is uh one of the best ways to reduce all cause mortality and cardiovascular disease is because we use the skin to eliminate waste. But it is not just a barrier. It is a gateway. We transmit medications through through the skin, patches, creams, sprays. So when you apply sunscreens, paraminozolic acid and other um binders, fillers, uh agents that are meant to create uh aerosols, aerosol sprays, those chemicals and it's not the sunscreen that is the issue itself. It is the chemical carriers in the sunscreen that show up in the in the bloodstream. If you look at that study, some of the concentrations of these chemicals, paraminoic acid being one of them, PABA, um were 400 times the safe allowable limit and the FDA's safe allowable limit. And you would think that if I'm spraying it on my skin, it's not transmissible and and can't be picked up in the serum of the blood, but that's actually not true. The skin actually transmits a lot of these uh molecules right through the skin into the bloodstream. So, it's the carriers that are taking the sunscreen and making it into an aerosol or making it into a gel that's very easy to spread on your skin. Those carriers, those chemicals transmit right through the the the skin. They get embedded in the dermal layer of the skin. They also enter the blood. And this is where you have issues with skin cancer because all cancer, regardless of its form or its origin, was at one time a healthy cell. So there's no form of cancer that was not initially a healthy cell. So what happened to that cell? It became metabolically sick. It shifted its metabolism. If it happens in the liver, you have liver cancer. If it happens in the lymph node, you have lymphatic cancer. Um, you know if if it happens in the spleen, you have splenic cancer. And so what causes healthy cells to become sick? Well, very often what causes a healthy cell to become sick? We know radiation can do this which comes from sun. Um, we also know that chemicals can do this. So when we apply harsh chemicals to the skin, we can very often cause an accelerated shift in that cell's metabolism, which is the genesis of cancer. So if you're going to apply sunscreen, and I am actually a fan of sunscreen, there are a lot of tallow based sunscreens that use nonnano zinc. There are sunscreens that use titanium dioxide. These are extraordinarily safe. Um, when I was 19 years old, I was a lifeguard in Ocean City, Maryland. Remember, everybody had the white noses. Um and then they came out with colored uh zinc oxide. Yes. Um so a lot of us had blue noses, pink noses, whatever. Um those sunscreens are extraordinarily safe. Um you can get them clear now. You can get them in in gel format. You can get them in paste. Uh so if you can apply a sunscreen

>> Yeah. because that's the downside of the zinc is it just it's so you're so white. You go from white to even whiter.

>> Yeah. You do look like Casper the Friendly Ghost. Um and just by saying Casper the Friendly Ghost, I'm dating myself. That that I think that show 30 years ago. right there with you.

>> Um, and if you remember it, you're as old as I am. Um, but uh, [laughter] uh, so these topical on sunscreens that have titanium dioxide and zinc oxide, that's the direction you want to go.

>> Okay. All right. Well, got it. That's good to know. But now I'm getting concerned that I my my long-term editorial producer Debbie Murphy, she lives in Canada, damn Canada, as we call it. And uh, she's been warning me against putting on the self-tanner, Gary, for a long time. a long time. You know,

>> like when you're pasty though, especially as a woman, like you do tend to want to fight it somehow. What's the solution? Just get a tan or

>> No, there's a I never really considered I never really cons considered

>> there's a peptide called melanotan

>> um which will do it naturally

>> um and it will activate melanocytes um in your skin systemically. You'll get an even tan. Um, if you do go in the sun, you will accelerate your tan. So, you'll be the darkest you you've ever done.

>> Stop it right now. This is sci-fi.

>> No. Meanotin. Look it up. Melano tannin. It is a very

>> people are taking this and it's work. It's making them tan.

>> Oh, no question. Um, and and it has a bunch of other positive uh effects in the body. But me tannin is a

>> I'm doing this on the air. People are going to watch me tan. We'll come back and do and and do a follow-up show in 45 days. You're going to look like you're Italian. So now you'll start to fit your heritage. [laughter]

>> Yeah.

>> That's amazing. Could is it over the counter?

>> Um technically you could get it over the counter. It's considered a supplement, but you want to get it from a licensed compound pharmacy. What's called a 503.

>> That's spectacular. Yeah. Okay, great. I wish I had invented that. Um, that's very good to know. All right. So, wait a couple of other questions on the morning routine. So, the you get the sunlight, you wake up. Now, here's a question I have for you. A lot of women my age,

>> we don't sleep well.

>> Mhm.

>> You know, it's like the the menopausal process, which I've now found out takes forever. Yes. Like the

>> can start in your late

>> parmenop like

>> Yeah. It's like 15 years you're stuck in like whatever parameopause or menopause. I don't even know what it is anymore. But,

>> um you don't sleep well. I don't know anyone my age, female, who sleeps well. So, I've told the audience before I did start HRT, which I really like.

>> Good for you.

>> U, it's been actually kind of miraculous and that I do do the estrogen, I do the cream.

>> Mhm.

>> It's great.

>> Yes.

>> And I'm so dumb to think like, of course, those hormones can pass through my skin, but I'm fine with a self-tanner. Okay. I needed this conversation, Gary. Anyway,

>> so the progesterone though, it's a problem for me and a lot of my girlfriends. Like not everybody tolerates progesterone well. It makes me for example super bloated like uncomfortably bloated and I hate it. Right?

>> So then the doctors are like oh you can do a IUD. I'm like I don't want to do an IUD. I don't want to do any I'm not sure I want to do any of that crap. But the problem is if you don't you have to do progesterone if you're taking estrogen to protect against uterine cancer. That's what the doctors say. But the problem is um progesterone makes you uncomfortable and yet it's the key part of HRT that helps women like me sleep.

>> It's what makes you sleep. It gets you through these menopausal weirdnesses.

>> And I wonder if you have any thoughts on that. Like is there any solution for women who are between 40 and 60 having sleeping difficulty but who either don't tolerate progesterone well or who just don't want to do HRT.

>> Yes. So first of all let me back up. This happens to be a core competency uh of mine and I think it's one of the most underserved areas of all of modern medicine is female hormone therapy, pmenopause, premenopause and menopause. Um, you know, as you know, the the the US Food and Drug Administration just recently removed the blackbox warnings from female hormone therapy because nearly 50 million women suffered for decades because they thought that hormone therapy and specifically estrogen led to an increased risk of breast cancer. We know that that is patently false. You know, if you look at the um uh study that that came from, which was called the Women's Health Initiative, one of the largest hormone studies ever done, it was bastardized and misreported. And essentially what came out of that study was not that there was a 20% conccommittant increase in in breast cancer. There was a 20% relative risk reduction in breast cancer. And that's why I applaud the FDA for that. Marty McCary did that before his tenure ended.

>> Yes. God bless him.

>> And um they removed the blackbox warnings from female hormone therapy. So let's just back up uh a little bit and and let's just talk about what premenopause and menopause actually is, right? I mean when when you're in menopause you still have a cycle. It's just that your amplitude is lower. So you have a very high amplitude cycle very definitive cycles between follicular ovulation and lutil as you are a menrating female. And as you get older this amplitude begins to drop. Still have a cycle in menopause. It's just very uh very low. So, it's important to understand first of all that this this cycling decline can begin in your late 30s and and the signs are not things that drive you to the emergency room or take you to the ER or get you over to the urgent care. They are signs like brain fog, weight gain, water retention, poor focus, poor concentration. The hallmark sign is exhaustion upon waking in the morning, which is an inverted cortisol and melatonin cycle, which I'm going to talk about in a second. There is a gold standard test for women and if your female audience is listening, I think they should write this down because it may completely change their life. There's a gold standard test called a Dutch test. Um, one of the most dangerous things to do in female hormone therapy is to um prescribe your entire complement of hormones based on a blood test. Just a simple one-time blood test. A blood test is a snapshot in time. A menrating female, it's perfectly normal for her estrogen to be in the 400s. It's perfectly normal for estrogen to be in the teens. So, who's to say that 172 or 210 or 68 or 99 is high or low? Well, you don't know unless you know exactly what stage of her cycle she's in, follicular, ovulation, lutil, and you know whether or not all of those hormones are entering or exiting the cycle together. What happens in these different stages of menopause is that all the hormones in a women's body don't get together in a conference room one day and go, "Okay, girls, it's been a great run. We're all out of here." Right?

>> They get together in the conference room and estrogen goes, "No, no, no. I'm going to stick around a while." Progesterone says, "I'm out." Pregnant says, "I think I'm going to hang out for a few months and then I'm going to leave." Testosterone's like, "I'm totally out of here. I've been in here long enough." So you get this weird cascade of everything from lack of libido to brain fog to weight gain to water retention to mood changes to emotional changes. The a female's attraction to their spouse can shift um during this period of time doesn't mean that they don't love their spouse. It means that and and very often sadly uh in in relationships we we couple libido and arousal with love and attraction. You can be deeply in love with your spouse, you can be very attracted to your spouse and you can have no ability to be aroused and no libido. That's usually because free testosterone is low. So these strange things happen where you're like, "Well, I'm still in love with my significant other. I'm still attracted to my significant other. I'm just not aroused. I have no libido." or you wake up in the morning more exhausted than when you went to bed or someone that is extraordinarily organized. This is what happened to my wife. I'd encourage you to go watch the podcast that I did with my wife Sage working her because we went through menopause together. Um we did the Dutch test and then um she was very transparent. Put her entire cascade of hormones. She had every symptom that a female could have all the way through to frozen shoulder. Something called adhesive

>> capsulating. I have a friend who has that right now.

>> It's menopause. Um, I will tell you your friend is between 42 and probably 54 years old. Um, and it's very painful for her to lay on her shoulder. She probably has a difficult time raising it above level.

>> Okay.

>> Yeah, she just got a shot in it.

>> Oh boy. She got cortisone. And the next recommendation tell her to be very careful is they're going to recommend manipulation under anesthesia, which is where they actually put her to sleep and they break those adhesions while she's sleeping. They physically break those.

>> Oh my gosh. It's called adhesive capsulitis. Within 3 weeks of starting hormone therapy, her frozen shoulder will be gone. My wife's shoulder went from being raised to here to straight up in the air. No pain. Your friend will also tell you that it's very painful to lay on that shoulder. If she rolls on over on it at night, it will just wake her up. And she'll tell you that it's restricted. And then she'll do simple things like she'll bend down tie her shoe and forget that she has this and it will take her to the floor. It's very very painful. This adhesive capsulitis.

>> Wow.

>> This is a byproduct of estrogen metabolism. And if you wanted to have one lever to torture a woman, it would be estrogen, right? Because as you and and and estrogen is a category of hormones. There's E1, E2, E3. It's called estradiol, estrion. there. These different hormones are high and low at different times in a woman's cycle in her life cycle of her menstrual cycle until she goes into menopause. By moving these estrogen levers, you affect skin elasticity. So all of a sudden they look in the mirror

>> and they're like, I feel like I've aged 10 years and 6 months. So the elasticity is leaving their skin. Libido crashes. They the exhaustion in the morning. they start to retain water because remember the primary role of estrogen is to retain water in the interstitial space. The reason why estrogen goes from a high of about 400 in a menstruating female to a high of about 4500 is because when they get when they get pregnant um is so that you can retain water, pad the uterus, protect the fetus. So, but when we're older, we don't want to uh retain water. These women think that they're getting fat and they're not getting fat, they're getting water retensive. This also happens to women that eat in a very narrow feeding women window. Which is why one of the most dangerous things that menstruating women can do is intermittent fasting in a very very narrow feeding window. And you want to frustrate a female when they start intermittent fasting with their spouse. Husband's got all the energy in the world. He's putting on lean muscle, sleeping like a bear, wakes up like a tiger, um doing great in the gym. The woman's eating in the same narrow feeding window, can't get out of bed, starting to get bloated, is also exercising, is barely eating, and is gaining weight. You know, that's because you throw off the estrogen cycle, and the body starts to retain water. So, so let me walk you through what the solution to this is. The solution is a 24-hour urine test called a Dutch test. Um, and you do this test once and what it shows is the entire complement of hormones. And don't assume that because some of the hormones are tanking heading into menopause that all of the hormones are tanking. In fact, I'd be very surprised if the reason why you react poorly to progesterone is because your progesterone in its cycle is probably normal. And you may be low on pregnenolone. You may be low on one of the three um estradiols, the the estrogen hormones. You're almost certainly low on testosterone and free testosterone. So, when you treat women for hormone therapy, you replace the entire complement of hormones. We do not shoot women with rifles. In other words, you don't take darts and throw them at hormones. You replace the entire complement of hormones. And the reason for that is because it's called hormone replacement therapy is that hormones are not cumulative. So I often will open some of my hormone lectures by asking a room full of physicians. Let's say you have two men, one has a testosterone of 200, one has a testosterone of 600, and you're going to put them on hormone therapy. Who gets more testosterone? The guy with 200 or the guy with 600? And the answer is they get exactly the same amount. Reason for that is as soon as I replace their testosterone, both of their production is going to zero or near zero.

>> Oh,

>> so if I give each of them 200 milligrams of testosterone, they will end in the same place because

>> hormone

>> if they if a man stops taking testosterone, will his body kick back in and make the testosterone again? depending on how long he's been taking it, which is why I'm a much bigger fan of peptides, uh, like kispin, ganatarellin. Um, I'm a big fan of something called enclomophene. These will signal the testicles to increase their production. So then they're high on their own supply. And no matter what anyone tells you, there is no better hormone than one the body makes on its own. So as men age um they can develop something called primary hypogonatism where they cannot produce their own testosterone and in that case absolutely replace testosterone. The evidence is clear. 2018 the journal of American urology updated all of their clinical guidelines on male hormone therapy. Having low testosterone is a risk factor for cardiovascular disease. Replacing testosterone does not increase your risk of cardiovascular disease. In fact, it reduces it. There are 10,000 receptors for um testosterone in the male heart. One of the highest uh it's the highest of any organ in the body. So, you don't want to deprive it of testosterone if you're a man. Um there is not an increased risk of prostate cancer. There's not an increased risk of prostate enlargement. Um and there is not a correlated risk or a causal risk for cardiovascular disease. So you replace it if you can't produce it. You stimulate

>> got it

>> if you can produce it. So I want to go back to women for a second and close that loop. A Dutch test will give your OB/GYN, hopefully a functional OBGYn, everything that he or she needs to say, okay, here are the hormones that are deficient. I am going to bring those back into the normal level.

>> Here are the hormones I'm going to leave alone um or I'm going to replace. And then you replace that entire complement of hormones. And it is a gamecher for women because no woman only suffers from the classic signs of menopause. Classic signs are the hot flashes. Classic sign is low libido. Classic sign is sleep disruption. They usually have this myriad of other symptoms that they don't attribute back to, you know, the poor focus, poor concentration, lack of waking energy. um, you know, brain fog. These are things crushing fatigue for no reason. Um uh waking exhausted and then having uh what they call crushing fatigue during the day where they just feel like they really have to take a nap. Your listeners do not have to suffer. Get that Dutch test. Get it to a functional medicine doctor and and and get those hormones replaced. you're not increasing

>> breath. So now, not to beat a dead horse, but if if you don't sleep well, notwithstanding because I am doing the HRT and I love it.

>> Um, there are some out there who are saying like 20 milligrams, I don't know if that's a unit of creatine and you're going to feel a lot better. And I've I've never taken creatine. I don't know whether that's something we should be considering, but like is there any [gasps]

>> like bounceback tool?

>> Yes. So there there there are a bunch of things that can mitigate the effects of poor sleep. So first of all, why is sleep important? Um there's [clears throat] two phases of sleep. They're extraordinarily important. One is called REM phase. This is where we are assembling memory, right? Learned memory. So maybe you learned something on this podcast today. Um and when you go to sleep tonight, um your subconscious, your hippocampus, and your prefrontal cortex, these two will connect and this will become a learned memory. you'll remember what maybe that you learned during this podcast or a lecture or an interview or another guest that you had on. So that is called learn memory that's assembled during REM phases of sleep. During the deep phase of sleep, something called the glimpmphatic system is active. So we have lymph nodes in the body, right? The lymph nodes that swell when you get a sore throat. Um we have a glimp fatic system in the brain which drains waste from the brain. And by waste I mean inflammatory proteins. cytoines, histamines, these inflammatory proteins that if they are not drained from the brain will stay in the brain. And these are the genesis of a lot of things. Alzheimer's, dementia, early onset, cognitive decline, which by the way are not conditions of you losing your memory. It is a fallacy that people that have Alzheimer's are losing their memory. They are losing

>> access your memory. your memory is I am sitting right now physically sitting in a memory care facility. It is called Regentra. Um I have I'm checking my mother and my father in today into assisted care. It's actually independent in cysticare living because um there is a project here called Regentra where they're using red light therapy, hydrogen gas, uh vibration uh shake plates to dramatically improve cognitive outcomes in the elderly. And what we are seeing coming out of these studies is absolutely mind-numbing. Um controlling their glycemic profile, their blood sugar, um and reducing these inflammatory compounds. So, let's get back to sleep because that's what you asked about. Um, so creatine is one of those things in high doses that crosses the bloodb brain barrier. Um, and what it does is it creatine can actually mitigate the effects of sleep deprivation. So, my wife going through menopause um was having a very difficult time sleeping. I mean, if she slept more than two or three hours at a stretch without a long period of waking, that was a good night for her. Um, so she was taking 20 milligrams of creatine daily because in high doses it does cross the bloodb brain barrier and there is evidence that it can mitigate the effects of sleep deprivation. So if you are a female

>> um over 42 to 44 years old, I would insist that you are on a minimum of 5 milligrams of creatine a day. Full stop. Um,

>> is is it something you have to build up? you know, like five milligrams for a week, 10 milligrams for two weeks, and then graduate to 20.

>> No, the loading dose was it's sort of a bodybuilder holdover. Um, where you did a loading dose of creatine for a week, and then you actually went down to 5 milligrams. That's that's uh those studies are related to muscle hypertrophy, growing uh lean muscle, tearing a muscle, having the muscle grow back larger. When we're talking about the cognitive benefits um and the inflammatory benefits, anti-inflammatory benefits, 20 milligrams of creatine split into two 10 milligram doses, very safe. Um and

>> okay,

>> you just put it in like a glass of water.

>> Put it in a glass of water. Now, here's here's the difference between the two creatines. Monohydrate, there's more clinical evidence on on monohydrate. I am actually uh a fan of both monohydrate and creatine hydrochloride HCL. Women sometimes will find that they bloat less on HCL hydrochloride because it is 40% more water soluble. One of the things that creatine does, which is why bodybuilders love it, is it holds water in the muscle.

>> Um but it also holds water in the gut. And so dissolve your creatine completely or use a um a form that has other carriers like a Symbiotica gel pack creatine. Um very very good form monohydrate. Start with 5 milligrams and then work your way up. Don't do a loading dose at first. 5 milligrams week one and week two you can switch all the way to 20 milligrams a day. You will notice the difference in cognitive function in 24 hours. Some people even say the same day. um because sleep deprivation um doesn't it leaves these inflammatory proteins in the brain. So you want something to cross the bloodb brain barrier and help get them out. The other thing

>> so you could do that every day regularly or just save that for when you've had a bad night's sleep. So if you don't have consistently poor sleep, if poor sleep is something that is not common to you, so it only happens when you travel, only happens when you're stressed, only happens when you change time zones, then you can save those large doses of creatine for that period of time. If you're going through menopause or you are a chronically poor sleeper, I would I would recommend that you take the 20 minutes 20 milligrams of creatine daily. It is a game changer for cognitive function. in this memory care facility. Um I'm in Coconut Creek, Florida. Um these uh 80, 85, 90 year old um patients are on high doses of creatine, 20 milligrams of creatine a day. My mother is on 20 milligrams of creatine a day and it is having very very positive outcomes on learn memory, short-term recall, focus, um uh concentration, complex tasking.

>> You said there's what was that thing you mentioned? I red light therapy. I know that that sounded familiar. Um then there were two other things and the second of it of them was something about a shake a shake bed.

>> Uh shake it's low vibration therapy. So what happens in in in the elderly and deconditioned people is you know they can't get into zone 2 cardio. Um they can't exercise. We all know the benefits of exercise right? We maybe we can go down that road but if you don't uh you know exercise is probably the single uh best hallmark activity to ward off aging. all cause mortal mortality, cardiovascular disease, you see this in blue zone studies, you see this in meta analyses, you see this in all the big

>> Alzheimer's,

>> Alzheimer's um uh which is now also being called type three diabetes. Um if you Google type three diabetes, you'll see that type three diabetes is Alzheimer's. We used to think that Alzheimer's was the presence of neuropiillary tangles and amaloid plaques. That is the byproduct of Alzheimer's. The genesis of Alzheimer's is insulin resistance. So if you only had one biioarker that you were tracking and you said, "I'm only going to choose one biioarker that I'm going to manage for the rest of my life." If you managed your um your insulin level and what's called your hemoglobin A1C, the three-month average of your blood sugar, that would probably do more to ward off all cause mortality than anything else that you do, which is why exercise is so beneficial. But they're doing a few things here. um uh one they're using low impact vibration. So these these vibration plates put several gs of force through the body in very short bursts vertical bursts. The reason why that's important is it helps the bones to strengthen and remmineralize. You know for decades we always thought that brittle bones was low calcium but that is patently false. Our bones are not even calcium. Our bones are uh calcium bound to something called phosphorus and they form something called hydroxyapatite. So our bones are hydroxy appatite, not calcium. In order for calcium and phosphorus to bind, you need 12 minerals. If you're missing any one of those 12 minerals, your bones do not oify and you get osteopenia or osteoporosis. You can go to assisted care living facilities all over the world and see elderly men and women that have osteopenia or osteoporosis um that have been on calcium supplements for 25 years. I promise you this, calcium is not the answer. Minerals are the answer. Taking a mineral salt would do more for bone density than taking calcium. You know, usually these people are not calcium deficient. Most of us are not calcium deficient. By the way, if you take too much calcium, it ends up in the arterial wall. This is where we get um calcification and hardening of the arteries. So mineral salt is something that should also be in your daily routine. I take a mineral salt called Baja Gold. There are lots of great mineral salts out there. Redmond salt, Cal.

>> How much of that do you put in? I I actually saw you mention that and I ordered it. Um

>> how much of that do you put like in the morning? My doctor actually told me a while ago, start your day with a glass of water and put a little salt in there. Yes. Uh he doesn't he he didn't recommend it for my husband who's

>> got some high blood pressure, but for me he did.

>> But you

>> like is it just a pinch?

>> You know, there's So Baja Gold has a liquid uh mineral dropper. Um this is probably the cheapest biohack in the world and it's my favorite biohack. Um you can buy a bag of this salt for about 15 bucks. It'll last you five years. I buy the liquid mineral salt. It comes in a dropper and I put two squirts of it in a glass of water in the morning um with all eight essential amino acids and a hydrogen tablet. I put those three things in water and I whack that back first thing in the morning and I never ever ever ever miss that. All nine essential amino

>> and that gives you the hydrogen and that that gives you the minerals you need.

>> Mhm. Um probably have those with me. I I literally never leave home without these things. Um so hydrogen gas, this is this is the one that I use. I went use one called H2 tap.

>> I love a prop.

>> Sorry, I'll take that off. But

>> no, I love it.

>> The visual aid. Everybody loves the visual aid.

>> This is this is I I will tell you that the role of hydrogen gas in the human body,

>> mark my words on this, is the greatest discovery of our millennia. hydrogen water, hydrogen inhilation and um even bathing in hydrogen gas will be as common as a multivitamin in 10 years. The evidence is absolutely crystal clear and I am talking about human trials of peer-reviewed placeboc controlled randomized clinical trials conducted at gold standard universities that are in the public domain that have been published. Hydrogen um is the smallest lightest element in the universe. Um it's highest on the periodic table. It's also the most prevalent element in the universe. 10% of your body weight is hydrogen. So it's harmless to human beings. The role that hydrogen gas has in the human body, we have only recently discovered. So hydrogen acts as what's called a selective antioxidant. So in other words, it doesn't just reduce oxidative stress, it reduces oxidative stress to neutrality. It restores something called redux homeostasis. And why is that important? Because too much inflammation, too much oxidation, too many free radicals, very bad. Too little inflammation, too few free radicals, too little oxidation, also very bad. You want to be a balance that which is called redux homeostasis. You want there to be a balance between inflammation and reduction. But when you take hydrogen gas, it restores this to neutrality, to balance, and stops even if you

take too much. Um, there is not a professional athlete that I work with. There's not a VIP client whose health trajectory I manage who is not regularly bathing in hydrogen gas and does not take hydrogen water tablets every single day and you can just take elemental magnesium and which is what a hydrogen tablet is drop it into water and it will effervesce into pure hydrogen gas and you can drink it.

So what happens when that goes into the body is it neutralizes these free radicals. So when we say something is uh an antioxidant for example like what does that mean? Blueberries are antioxidants. Uh vitamin C is an antioxidant. Queretin is an antioxidant. What does that mean? It means that it donates electrons. So something is causing free radical damage and oxidative stress. You neutralize it by giving it electrons.

So hydrogen because it can pass through your skin, through your bones, through your cell wall, right through your joints, through the capsule of your joint, it can go right through your spine. It is the smallest, lightest element in the universe. It's the fraction of the size of a virus. And so it goes everywhere in the human body and reduces this inflammatory cascade.

Um, I I don't even talk about this in the public domain because people would call me a complete charlatan, but um I have a hydrogen bath at my house. Um, and I have put people into that tub, Megan, nearly crippled with arthritis and they will skip out of my unit like they won the lottery. My my wife, Sage, has an L5S1 fusion, spinal fusion in her back, and >> if you know anything about spinal surgeries, they >> they never really go well. It's like you just buy yourself a problem down the street. Um, anybody that's had back surgery >> know >> in another life I was married to a pain management, an interventional pain management doctor and uh he used to say I can help anybody except somebody who's actually had back surgery. >> Yeah. Um and usually starts with a discectomy, starts with a fusion and then it goes to another level and another fusion and another discectomy and then and then rods. But so so my wife Sage has an L5S1 fusion. So, she had her sacrum fused through her first lumbar vertebrae uh because of a really bad car accident she was in. And ever since then, um you know, when when that uh that surgery acts up, it just goes right up her spine. Um and it just >> cramps her whole spine down. >> If I bathe her in hydrogen gas for 25 minutes, she'll sleep eight hours through the night >> like a child. >> It's an it is a selective antioxidant. I will send you the research, the published research on this. You can put it in the show notes so your your readers can or your listeners can check it out for themselves. There's also a website called hydrogenstudies.com where you can see all 1500 peer-reviewed studies. You can select out the animal studies. Just look at human studies. It will be as common as a multivitamin especially in professional sports because professional sports.

>> But can I ask you a quick question on this? Is this because I had Dr. Casey Means on the program many times. >> Her brother, Cali, and I are very amazing. >> I love him too. I know cuz you're very active in the Maha space. He's they're both brilliant. We're so lucky to have them. >> Um, but she was the first person who just insisted that I get the RO filter uh in my house which I did. The carbon filter and the RORO. >> Yes. >> And but a friend of mine was saying that they had they've gone next level and they've put one of these like a Is this possible to have a >> Yes. Is it a hydrogen filter in their like do I need something other than the RORO now? Like what what is this? How how would this work in terms of consuming water?

>> I I will tell you uh that the the single best under the counter water filtration system in the world. Um is called a Maul water filter. M AW um I think it's Maul Wellness uh that sells it. I have it under every sink in my house. I have it under every sink in every property that I have. So what this does is uses uh sediment and reverse osmosis the these different uh carbon filters and different filters to completely de-structure the water. So you have you take out fluoride, chlorine, microplastics, pharmaceuticals, what's called PFAS, polyfluoroalkyl substances. Um I live in Miami. We have some of the worst municipal water. Um they'll tell you that it's clean. Um but I've had it tested. Arsenic, palladium, cadmium, nickel, um trace amounts of lead, not not significant amounts of lead, but chlorine, fluoride, uh microplastics. I would argue that one of the best things that you can do as a passive wellness hack, meaning not something you have to be active in doing like getting in a sauna or getting in a red light bed, is to put water filtration in your home. Um so this this uh Maul Wellness filter MAW wellness it what it will do is it will de-structure the water and then before it comes out of the sink it will make the water alkaline. It will uh add electrolytes back to the water and it will re-mineralize the water. So it de-structures it and then restructures it coming out of the uh so I still put my hydrogen tablet in there. >> But I would argue that that is the single best water you can put in the human body >> because it's so helpful.

I'm going to go on a shopping spree after this. Although is I imagine that the the MA water filter is >> pricey and for people who don't have money to spare. Can you just try to put that on one filter and go from there? I mean like you know that sounds like a lot to put it all over your house. >> Something called a Cold Life um that you can actually screw on just to your sink and that will do fluoride, chlorine, uh microplastics, which is a long way to getting really healthy water. If you want the gold standard, an under-the-counter water filtration, you know, these things are it's an investment you make once and it is pricey. You probably could finance it. Um, but if you added up all of the uh bottled water that you drank, you know, I just travel with an aluminum bottle that I filled up from that filter this morning. Um, so you you actually can save on glass bottled water and and plastic bottled water by actually having water filtration in your home. And then you're cooking with it, you're drinking it, your kids are drinking it, your spouse is drinking it. You know, it's it's probably I think as a single intervention, one of the one of the best things that you can do. Um.

>> Wow. And all the things that you're saving yourself, as you said, you're not not now you're not drinking chlorine, you're not drinking all the arsenic. Uh, and your children aren't either. So, it is an investment. All right. Stand by because we have much more. Gary stays with us. We take a quick break. [music] The one and only Gary Brea. I've learned so much this hour. I hope you have, too. More to come. Stand by. Hey, thanks for watching today's full episode. If you're new here, throw us a subscribe. See what you think. Stay in touch. There's plenty more goodness where this one came from. As always, we really do value your feedback. So, email me, too. Megan@megan kelly.com or just leave a comment down below. I do read them. I meander over and I scroll through and I find them very entertaining and really appreciate the feedback. But in any event, join the community by becoming a subscriber so you miss nothing. We value your support. We may not always agree on positions, but as you know, I'm very open-minded to people who disagree with me. That's how I learn. So, thanks. And thanks for trusting us to always talk about it openly, honestly, and with provocative conversations. Our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, says Washington politicians are always getting in your wallet and that now they're messing with your credit card. They say your credit card and the security it offers are under attack and that senators Dick Durban and Roger Marshall want to change the nation's payment system to benefit corporate mega stores like Walmart and Target at the expense of everyday Americans. Credit cards can keep your payments secure and provide rewards that families use to help make everyday purchases more affordable. The Electronic Payments Coalition says the Durban Marshall mandates would let corporate mega stores cut corners on credit card processing, routing transactions over cheaper, untested networks with weaker security and fewer protections. Find out more at guardyourcard.com and consider telling Congress to guard your card.

Welcome back to the Megan Kelly show. Well, my entire staff and I have been shopping during the commercial break trying to get tabs, hydrogen tabs and tallow based sunscreen and all sorts of these fun recommendations and I feel healthier already thanks to Gary Brea. He's our guest today. He's founder of the Ultimate Human Media platform. And let me tell you something. I know you you're very familiar with this story, Gary, but there it is. Ultimate Human. Um, it wasn't that long ago. I don't know, maybe 9 10 months, maybe a year where I was I was watching something that you had done and it you were telling the Dana White story, >> uh, CEO of uh, UFC, [clears throat] >> and it led me down a rabbit hole into Dana White videos talking about his health. >> And I'm going to let you set the stage in a second for his turnaround, but I just want to show the audience this. So, this I get to this video where he's laying out part of what Gary's protocol for him has been. and how it's been absolutely life-changing. This is a guy who was on blood pressure medication. They were going to be doing these like aggressive interventions, like surgical interventions on his heart. He thought he had a limited time on this earth left >> uh when it came to his blood pressure and his heart issues. And then Gary came into his life. Long story short, he's off all meds. He's off all of them now, thanks to Gary. And here's some of what he put on the internet that he does, which I find fascinating. So, first there's um Dana here. He there's video of him getting into this red light bed. So, he doesn't just do red light for the face. He does red light. He's in the bed. He's got his shorts on. That's all he wears. And he goes into this red light bed that he pulls down over him. I think it's 20 minutes a pop. He says he does this at least a few times a week. And this is one of the ways [clears throat] in which he starts his day. Then he also says he does this. He runs on a treadmill while breathing oxygen. Now, I have done this at this spa not far from me. We call it med spa or gym spa, spa gym. And uh this is like a big thing where they have you at this gym spa. We ride a bike and we put these oxygen masks over our faces and then you put the little like a handle on on the mountain where your oxygen goes way down and off the mountain where you get [clears throat] all sorts of good oxygen flowing in through this mask. So, it's the same sort of approach. I don't understand it any better when I do it there than I when I watch Dana doing it here. We'll get to that with Gary. And third, uh, Dana shows us that he goes on something called a PEMF pad that, uh, here in his video, he just lies on it on like a massage table. You can see him pressing a button, but he says that he sleeps on this every night. And that seems like another very low impact way of improving your health if you just have to sleep on a pad. I mean, this is right up our alley, is it not? people were like we can get just a little bit better without all of that looks highly pleasant to be quite frank. So >> walk us through the Dana White story and those protocols there Gary.

>> So I'm going to tell you the expensive way to do it and then the free way to do it because um >> great. >> You know the the best biohacking modalities uh what they do is they take the best of what mother nature has to offer us and they just make it convenient. Um, very often I say I'm a much bigger believer in what God gave us than what man makes us. I'm a bigger believer in our God-given immune system than I am in chemicals and synthetics and pharmaceuticals. And the same thing is true with a lot of biohacking modalities. [clears throat] Um, so I'm a huge believer in red light. I'm a huge believer in PEMF, pulse electromagnetic field. And I'm also a big believer in what Dana was doing which is called EWT which is based on Dr. Otto Warberg's research who won two Nobel prizes in modern medicine called multi-step oxygen therapy. So if you can afford those pieces of equipment or you have access to them in a spa or a gym, by all means, regular red light therapy, regular sauna, regular PEMF, even cold immersion, um, and something called intermittent hypoxia. Those are phenomenal things for your body. Um, they not only shift your cellular biology, they improve your V2 max very often at rest. And they have proven life extension capabilities. And I'm going to explain that in a second. Proven, clinically proven life extension capabilities. Um, in fact, I'm in the process now of of opening 600 ultimate longevity centers all over the country because I really feel like my message is for masses, not >> just for the top 2% uh, of society that can afford that type of equipment. a red light bed like that, a really good red light bed will cost you $100,000. So, if you're getting ready to buy a Ferrari, buy a Hyperbaric or a red light bed. If you don't have the money for a Ferrari or a red light bed, um you know, you find your way to one of these centers. >> Uh and and there'll be 600 of these around the country in the next uh in the next few months. >> Um >> that's great. That's great news. >> Yeah, it's it's a I'm I'm really excited about. It's a project that Tony Robbins Life Force is involved, you know, for the corporate practice of medicine, hormone therapy, nutrient deficiencies, peptides. Um, but most importantly, you know, low cost memberships where people can actually go in and use sauna, red light, hyperbaric chambers, um, PMF like you're seeing there with Dana, and something called intermittent hypoxia. And I want to explain those in in a moment. But if you cannot afford a red light bed, a PMF, um, and an EWAT machine, get sunlight on your skin, learn to do breath work, and touch the surface of the earth, you will get the same, very close to the same outcomes because certain wavelengths of red light, we are very photovoltaic beings. So red light therapy, the primary role of red light therapy as it passes through the skin. Remember that light doesn't care about inflammation. It doesn't care about the cell wall. doesn't care about the tissue. It passes right through your skin. [clears throat] And when it passes through the skin, one of the things that it does is, without getting too scientific, is it goes into a little organelle in the cell called the mitochondria. And the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell. It's a little battery that's inside of your cell. And we have about 110 trillion of these in our bodies. 10% of your body weight is mitochondria. So, you got 110 trillion of these in your cells. They're very important. And they're making energy. They're making this form of energy called ATP. What's fascinating about the mitochondria is that there's a motor inside of the mitochondria. And every time it makes one revolution, it has two choices. It can either create two units of energy, 2 ATP, or it can create 36 units of energy, 36 ATP. One turn and it's either 16 times more powerful or 16 times less powerful. So what determines whether or not it's 16 times more efficient or more powerful or 16 times less? The presence of oxygen. If oxygen enters that cycle, aerobic respiration, you get 36 ATP. If carbon dioxide, anaerobic respiration enters that cycle, you get 2 ATP. One of the things that red light does is when it passes through the wall of this mitochondria, it kicks out a gas, a gas called mitochondrial nitric oxide, and forces oxygen to dock. So, it's almost like taking a hammer and driving oxygen into the battery, the powerhouse of the cell. So, red light therapy heals you and gives you energy from the inside out. Certain wavelengths of sunlight do the same thing. So yes, red light therapy is excellent.

>> How many times a week would you be doing that? >> Well, red light therapy is dose dependent just like sauna. So if you look at the research on sauna, dry sauna for example, and the data is clear on dry sauna. I don't think anyone in the functional medicine or biohacking space would argue the impact of sauna and it reduced >> just just just to clarify, dry sauna is like what you know of as sauna. Wet sauna is steam room. >> Uh I mean dry sauna and infrared sauna. So, [clears throat] they're both dry. >> Um, one uses light to create friction and heat you up. The other uses heat to heat you up. A dry sauna is usually about 160 to 180°. An infrared sauna is usually about 155°, but it also makes you sweat. It makes you sweat by using wavelengths of light to create friction in water chromophores. So, so it actually also makes you sweat. Either of those is fine. An infrared sauna or a dry sauna. I'm not a fan of commercial steam rooms unless they filter their water because commercial steam rooms usually bring in the municipal water and then you are vaporizing fluoride gas, chlorine gas, polyfluoroalkyl substances, um whatever is in that water, you're turning into a gas.

>> Good point. >> And the way that we take a poison >> and turn it into a bioweapon is we vaporize it. Right? I mean, you you and I could be sitting on in in front of a desk with a pile of anthrax on our desk, no problem. If you lit that on fire or vaporized it, big problem, right? Um, so >> there's a dark thought. >> There's a dark Yeah, I got really dark there for a second there. [laughter] Sorry. >> Wow. >> I'm not >> There I was in the steam room enjoying myself until I got poisoned by anthrax. [laughter] >> Yeah, it was all fun and games until Gary vaporized the anthrax, you know. Um, [laughter] but uh uh and I'm not saying municipal steam rooms are that bad, but when you walk [laughter] into a lot of these Yeah. locker rooms, you smell the chlorine, right? >> Yeah, that's right. >> You can just smell it and it's it's chlorine gas uh and fluoride gas. So, unless you're filtering the water in your steam room, I would avoid that. I wouldn't I wouldn't use municipal water. But if you filter it, great. Um but so we know that sauna reduces all cause mortality. Meaning we know that the reduction in cardiovascular risk and the reduction in all cause mortality clearly causal not correlated. It is a it is a clear line in in the scientific literature. So sauna is one of those things that if you're on a longevity bandwagon, it should be a you know somewhere in your in your stack. But um it is also dose dependent. So 5 days is better than two, two days is better than one. Red light therapy is the same way. The more consistently you lay in a red light therapy therapy bed, the more youthful in appearance you'll take on. you will notice um extraordinary youthful changes in your skin. Why? Because it's very good for collagen, for elastin, for fibrin, and for something called vasomotor circulation. Vasomotor is something you may even want to write down because most people think >> that our heart circulates all the blood in our body. They're cardiologists that think that, but um that the heart circulates all the blood running through our body. That is that is not true. Um the heart circulates about 30% of the blood in our body. Nobody has a left ventricle with a single contraction that is strong enough to push blood um 63,000 miles. You have about 63,000 miles of blood vessel in your body including venules and capillaries um and arterioles. So this 70% of our circulation, how does that 70% of the blood circulate? It's circulated through this activity called vasomotor. So, I want you to think of a snake swallowing a mouse. Okay? We don't put a hose in the snake's mouth and push the mouse along. What happens is there's a muscular like peristalsis, a a muscular motion that moves that mouse down the snake's body. That's how the bolus of blood is moved through 70% of your circulation. So vasomotor this microvascular circulation we never examine it we don't image it we don't treat it we don't even talk about it and so what happens as we age is we get compromise in this vasomotor circulation red light therapy is one of the best things you can do for vasomotor circulation and if you go back to Dana White Dana White had what's called brittle hypertension when I met him and brittle hypertension means that you have extraordinarily high blood pressure all the time and it's not controlled well by medication. He had been on beta blockers, calcium channel blockers, diuretics, uh something called ACE inhibitors. None of it was working to keep his blood pressure down.

>> What was fascinating was that uh Dana was told he had familial hypertension. He was told he had genetically inherited hypertension. And I want to make something super clear for your listeners. In modern medicine, there is a type of diagnosis called idiopathic. So when a physician has no idea, um, in fact, the Latin root of that is unknown origin. So when you have a condition and we don't know why, we just diagnose it as idiopathic. You have idiopathic hypertension. You have idiopathic hypothyroid. You have idiopathic autoimmune. Which means we have no idea what caused this. 85% of all primary hypertension diagnosis are idiopathic. So when they are medicating your heart for a crime they cannot prove it's committing, it's because they do not know the origin. And that's in the record. Idiopathic. And so when we can't explain things in medicine, we look for other routes to validate it. And one of the routes they do is they look at your family history and they go, "Oh my gosh, Megan, look at this. You have high blood pressure. We've examined your heart. There's nothing wrong with your heart." Which is what happened to Dana. Your EKG is normal. EEG is normal. Heart sounds are normal. Lung sounds are normal. Cardiac cath normal. Die contrast study. All of these advanced studies are all normal. So we can't find anything wrong with the heart. We want to medicate the heart anyway. So, we look at your family history and we go, "Oh, look at that. Your father's brother has hypertension. Your mother had hypertension. You have familial hypertension. You have genetically inherited hypertension." Well, if I can get you to believe that you have a genetically inherited disease, I can get you to subscribe to a lifetime of medication. But if we took that conversation one step further and you looked the physician in the eye and said, "If I inherited this disease from my ancestor, what gene did they pass on to me that caused this condition to exist?" That's when their face would go blank because that gene does not exist. There's not a gene for hypertension. There's not a gene for hypothyroid. There's not a gene for type two diabetes, drug and alcohol addiction, depression, and anxiety. All of these things run in families. None of them are genetic. So, >> wow, >> that is a critical distinction. So, they diagnosed Dana with idiopathic hypertension, hypertension of an unknown origin. The reason, familial genetic hypertension, even though there's no gene for hypertension. So, the first conversation I had with Dana was uh well, they don't know the origin. They're they're medicating your heart for a crime they cannot prove it's committing. In fact, your your cardiac workup says the opposite. You have no cardiac anomalies, your EEG, EKG, heart and lung sounds, and all of your cardiac workup has been normal for 10 years. Um Dana's response, I won't say his exact response on the show because it's very colorful. Um, but he said, "What in the beep am I on all of these medications for?" [laughter] Um, and so what I found was that uh he had an amino acid in his blood. Please, if you have hypertension, write this down. He had an amino acid in his blood called homocysteine. Homocysteine is in everyone's blood that's listening to this conversation right now. Homocysteine is normal in our bloodstream. Our body takes homocysteine, breaks it down and turns it into another amino acid called methionine which then quiets the mind. So when homocysteine rises which is genetic you inherit poor homocysteine metabolism which means you inherit high homocysteine. You do not inherit hypertension. And so when this amino acid rises and it's cruising by the inside lining of your blood vessels, it irritates your blood vessel. And if you irritate a blood vessel, it will clamp down. And when you make the pipes smaller in a fixed, [clears throat] excuse me, a fixed system, the pressure goes up. An apprentice plumber knows if I want to increase the pressure, I decrease the diameter of the pipes. So, you have 63,000 miles of blood vessel in your body, 70% of which we never image and never um and never examine. And if you get vascular constriction, vasal constriction in that 70% of your system, the pressure is going to go up. Just like if I wanted to raise your blood pressure right now, I just put some Normatch compression boots on your on your legs. Your blood pressure will skyrocket. Nothing wrong with your heart. If I take the boots off, pressure goes back to normal. So, what happened to Dana over 21 weeks? And I would I would encourage your audience to write this down too if they have hypertension. Check your homocysteine level. If you have high homocysteine, that means that you have vascular constriction. If you have vascular constriction, you likely have high blood pressure. And this is well documented in in in the literature. Um you take an amino acid called TMG. You can get this over the counter. Trimethylglycine. What TMG will do is help your body metabolize the homocysteine. So over 21 weeks as Dana took this amino acid and he began to metabolize homocysteine. As his homocysteine level dropped, his vascular system began to relax and as it relaxed his pressure returned to normal. So after 21 weeks he was off all of his cardiovascular medication. He is no longer brutally hypertensive. Um he does not take medication for his heart and he takes an amino acid called trimethylglycine, TMG.

>> That's incredible. >> Perfectly normal. Absolutely incredible. The >> uh just to circle back before we move on. Um, we talked about red light bed. [clears throat] >> We talked about the treadmill with O2. Let's talk about the free version of that because I said I would tell you what to do for free. Okay. >> If you can afford an EWT, get on a treadmill, breathe the oxygen. If you can't learn to do breath work, that breath work that I described at the beginning, three rounds of 30 deep breaths, obnoxious, like deep breaths in through your lungs, really expanding your rib cage, exercising the auxiliary muscles of respiration, and then out through a straw, three rounds of 30 breaths followed by an extended breath hold. And then the final one is touching the surface of the earth.

>> It's called earthing or grounding. And I used to get a lot of flack for this 10 years ago, but is not No, that's real though, right? That's real. >> That's real. You discharge into the earth. You can hold a voltage meter and put one, get one off of Amazon, put one pin of the voltage meter in your hand, plug the other one into the ground, and then stand barefoot on top of your tennis shoes. Okay? Hold the voltage meter, step off of your tennis shoes onto bare ground, and watch the meter peg all the way to the right. >> So, you have to have your shoes off. That's that's important. >> Yes. You want to touch the surface of the earth with bare feet. It's called grounding or earthing. That's why people feel so good when they go to the beach. >> And the PEMF does that. Yes. For you. It's kind of a substitute if you can't. >> Yeah. >> I mean, if you live in a very snowy area, by the way, does it work in a snowy area? Like if you if you were standing on snow ground, too. What's fascinating, too, is a lot of commercial buildings um are grounded. So, like if if you actually live in a commercial condominium, you're in New York City and you're like, Gary, there's no dirt around. Um uh you you can also get a grounding test meter on Amazon. They're six bucks. Um and you can hold it and take your shoes off and stand on your tile floor. You may be grounded because commercial buildings run uh steel. Um and they also have steel poles. So very often the the concrete surfaces in those buildings are grounded. So you may be on the 15th floor but fully grounded. You just touch the surface of the earth, touch your touch your tile and you'll be grounded. Um, on the subject of, you know, the the Dana White revolution, did can we talk about LDL? There's such a debate over LDL. And I actually was looking into this recently because like my doctor, I've told my audience this, he loves the statins. He thinks everybody should be on a statin. He thinks they should be in the drinking water. Literally said that to me. I love my guy, but he he's more of an old school, you know, he's not functional medicine. >> Um, >> but I'm into functional medicine. So, like I it's interesting for me, but so he loves loves loves the statins, but now I know I've had enough people on the show that I know that there's a real question about statins. And there's a real question about whether we should be focused on LDL cholesterol at all.

>> Totally agree. >> Peter Attia, who's he's, you know, in the longevity space, >> he does believe. >> Did he resurface? >> Well, I don't know. Maybe he's not he's not functional, but he's in the longevity, but he he loves this. He wants LDLs down. He also believes LDL should be low, and you do have to worry. And my doctor was telling me in Europe, they want your LDL to be like below 60. I mean, that's really low. >> And you know, they'll lead you to believe you're going to have a heart attack if you don't manage the LDL. So, where do you stand on LDL?

>> So, first of all, let's talk about what cholesterol is and what it's not. Um, so cholesterol is not a fuel supply. Your body cannot use cholesterol for energy. So what is it? It's a construction material. We use it to build every cell wall, every cell membrane. We use it to make vitamin D3, the only vitamin that human beings make on our own. Human beings only make one vitamin and it's vitamin D3 called. We make it from sunlight and cholesterol. You don't need to eat, drink or or supplement. You just expose your skin to sunlight, have cholesterol in your bloodstream, you'll make vitamin D3. So just think for a moment how critical that must be to human function if when God made us, he made us with the ability to make one vitamin. [snorts] So it's a construction material. And so secondly, um cholesterol is also a transport molecule. So if cholesterol was a tennis ball, the fuzzy yellow surface on the top, that would be a triglyceride, a fat. So fat triglyceride is transported around the bloodstream on the surface of cholesterol. So if you remember from high school geometry that as the size of a sphere gets smaller, its surface area to volume ratio goes up. Why is that?

>> Oh boy. >> Hold on. I'm going to explain it in a way that your audience is going to [laughter] get validated for the naysayer >> nerds. Um, so let's say you had two basketballs of cholesterol sitting on your desk. Okay, they're covered in fat and you want to add more fat to your desk. You want to put more fat on those basketballs. How do they hold more fat? Two basketballs become four softballs. You add more fat to the bloodstream. Four softballs become eight baseballs. You add more fat, eight baseballs become 16 golf balls. You add more fat, 16 golf balls become 32 little BBs. Now, those two basketballs are markers for longevity, large puffy cholesterol. The 32 BBs are markers for cardiovascular disease. Same level of cholesterol, different size. Does that make sense?

>> Yeah. >> The two basketballs have the same surface area as 32 little BBs. Those 32 little BBs are very dangerous because they will pass through the endothelium, the the arterial wall. They'll get eaten by a macrophage. They'll start foam cell um they'll start the production of what's called foam cells, which is the genesis of plaquing, scarring, narrowing cardiovascular disease. Cholesterol by itself doesn't magically just jump out of the bloodstream and stick to the arterial wall. you need oxidation and you need um that molecular size of the cholesterol to be very small. So, I'm going to say something that's going to sound controversial, but if anyone has evidence to prove this statement wrong, I'm happy to look at it. No one has been ever been able to do this for me so far, but there is zero, and I mean zero, evidence anywhere in the peer-reviewed, published clinical literature linking elevated levels of LDL cholesterol on its own to cardiovascular disease. You have to have a corresponding increase in triglyceride or you have to have the small particle size. Now lipo a lipo little A which is genetic is a very dangerous form of cholesterol. Right now there are no pharmacological solutions for that. PCSK9 inhibitors do not reduce lipo a. Um there may be solutions by the end of this year but as we stand right now there are not pharmacological solutions for lipo a lipo B. So what happens is we've selected one myopic view of cholesterol LDL and we've said LDL high cardiovascular risk high we need to get it low that is not true and I will tell you that in the evidence because when I was in the mortality space we had access to the day date time location and cause of death for 371 million lives. I can tell you in 22 years I never processed a single death claim on a centenarian, somebody who lived over age 100 that did not have clinically elevated levels of LDL cholesterol at the time of their death. And if you look at blue zone studies, elevated LDL cholesterol, low triglyceride. If you look at the centenarian death claims that I processed, high LDL cholesterol, low triglyceride. If you want to focus on a single variable that makes your cholesterol less lethal, control your insulin. Insulin resistance is a greater marker for cardiovascular disease, insulin and hemoglobin A1C, LDL cholesterol. I would not I am not a physician. So, let me be the first one to say that I'm not a physician and I am not licensed to practice medicine. Um, but I am a data scientist and I have read the data. Um, if it were me or my loved one, I would not take a statin if purely my LDL cholesterol number was elevated, especially if I had normal to low triglyceride.

So, >> can I ask you a question then? If if you're a diabetic >> whose insulin is controlled, right, if you're a medicated diabetic who's controlling her insulin all the time, >> shouldn't you then never die of a heart attack? like because >> well what's interesting >> your insulin's always under control. >> Um if you look at the category of diabetes so diabetes if there there's a measure called hemoglobin A1C okay this is the three-month average of your blood sugar. It goes from 4.8 to 5.6 on most standard lab values. In that range you're considered to have normal blood sugar. Between 5.6 and 6.0 you are considered pre-diabetic. between 6.0 and 6.4 you are diabetic but not insulin dependent. So, so insulin dependence you can have diabetes and not be insulin dependent. You can have diabetes and require insulin. So if you look at the incidence of cardiovascular disease in type 2 diabetics meaning they are diagnosed with diabetes um then you you find significantly higher rates of cardiovascular disease. In fact insulin is a more correlated risk to cardiovascular disease than LDL cholesterol. It is a greater predictor of cardiovascular risk and disease than LDL cholesterol on its own. Insulin resistance is what causes uh cholesterol to to oxidize. So if you were going to monitor, if you just had an LDL cholesterol number and you had your insulin and hemoglobin A1C, I would control my blood sugar before I took a statin because the uncontrolled >> the thing about blood sugar is it's not just sugar. I mean, obviously if you're having boatloads of candy and ice cream and sugary products, that's not good. But you could eliminate all that and still have high blood sugar, right? Like >> that's right. >> For example, if you if you have hunks of bread, >> your body recognizes that as sugar. It processes that as a sugar. There are ways of spiking that blood sugar that have nothing to do with the consumption of actual sugar.

>> That's right. Yeah. And and and the big offenders are white bread, flour, rice, pasta. um grains. Those are the ones that they don't taste sweet, so we don't think of them as spiking blood sugar, but that, you know, they spike blood sugar. Fruits that in berry, great. Be very protein forward with your diet. Saturated fats and proteins are fine as long as you do not also have high glycemic carbohydrates with them. We just updated the entire uh not just the food pyramid, but the nutritional guidelines to be very protein forward. We also ended the war on saturated fat. Um when when we launched the war on saturated fat, we began the explosion of high sugary drinks, sodas, snacks, and highly processed foods. And look at the rates of diabetes when we went after fat and replaced it with sugar because >> everything got worse. Yeah. And I know Gary, you say just to get this thing, we have to take a break, but you say the number one, the only diet rule that matters >> is to avoid processed foods. I mean, processed foods are the devil. >> Like, you can't eat them. You do not buy them. Do not have them in your pantry. Do not give them to your children. Avoid them like the plague.

>> Yes, this is very true. And and just quick because I know I know we're tight on time. Um, blue zone studies, meta-analyses, and big data all line up. There is no argument for dogmatic dieting to extend life. It's not keto, paleo, pescatarian, vegan, vegetarian, carnivore, you know, raw food. The secret to extended life is the absence of processed food. You can do fine on a vegetarian diet. It's difficult, but you can very difficult on a vegan diet, but you can do it on a vegetarian diet. Difficult, but you can do it. You can do it eating fish, chicken, meat, eggs. Um, as long as you are not taking in high amounts of uh highly processed food and you are watching your sugars. Honey is great, you know. Um, uh, fruits and berries are amazing for you. It's not no sugar. It's eating sugar in moderation. And when you look at uh all of the areas of the world where we have life extension, there is no presence of processed food.

>> Wow. Think of that. And we are the capital of the world. >> Yeah. >> When it comes to that stuff on us everywhere >> and we're the sickest, fattest, most disease-ridden nation in the world.

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>> All right, Gary, I have so many things I need to get through with you in the last 13 minutes. bang through a bunch like quick hits. >> Let's go. [clears throat] >> All right. Um, there's a lot. Okay. You This is from you. You do not have an autoimmune disease. You have a pathological infection. >> So, if you think you have an autoimmune disease, you say there are five things that you need to think about. Um, forget what the disease is. is forget lamentations about having one. There are five things you can look into to improve your health and how you feel. The first one on the list is mold. Very interesting. Do you want to keep going from there? >> Yep. Mycotoxin, parasite, virus, and heavy metal. I'm going to I'm going to do a little demonstration here that may be the most significant thing that you learn about uh autoimmune. Now I am not saying that all autoimmune disease is caused by those five things. What I am telling you that is that as a category of disease 85% of autoimmune is diagnosed as idiopathic which means that you're led to believe that you woke up one day and for no apparent reason your immune system turned on your colon. So you have Crohn's. You woke up one day and for no apparent reason it started to attack the myelin sheath of your nerve. You have multiple sclerosis. It went after your thyroid. You have Hashimoto's the chagrins. lacrimal gland of the eye and on and on and on. Um, so if if this this is a piece of gum, but [snorts] if this was a mold spore or a microtoxin or a parasite or a virus or a heavy metal and this healthy cell, this does not hide like this. It hides like this. And that's a very important distinction because the immune system is hypervigilant. It wants to get to this, right? And it's hiding. Just for listening audience, he's putting the bad thing in the middle of his fist. He's saying it like hides in the middle of your system there. Keep going.

>> Yeah. So, think about if somebody across the street from your house robbed the bank and ran into your house and barricaded themselves in your in your house. The police would bust down that door to get to the perpetrator. They're not just showing up to your house to kick in the door for no reason. They're kicking in the door because the perpetrator is inside. [snorts] So, the immune system >> That's why your autoimmune markers are up. There's something bad happening inside of you that they're after. >> Exactly. So, we can take one of two types of belief if we have no explanation. One, God made a mistake. The immune system just attacked you for no reason. God didn't make a mistake. The immune system is there for a reason. So, the police officer just showed up and barricaded through your door and ran around your house or he kicked

In the door to get to a perpetrator. So, what happens when the immune system reaches the wall of a cell and it doesn't have permission to go inside? The way it gains permission to go inside, thick down the door, is it manufactures an antibody to that tissue. So, if you look at the incidence of heavy metal toxicity in Hashimoto's, which is autoimmune thyroid, you would find that very often, not always, but very often, these patients have high levels of metals embedded in their thyroid. Why? Because the thyroid has an affinity for heavy metals. So, mercury toxicity, palladium, lead, arsenic, very often will gravitate into the thyroid. And then what happens? The immune system is chasing that perpetrator and it begins an autoimmune response.

If you have Crohn's disease, the immune system didn't just wake up one day and attack your colon for no reason. Usually, what has happened is that you have damaged the single cell layer of the inside lining of your intestine. You have something called leaky gut, where contents from the inside of your intestine are leaking through the wall and into the bloodstream, and the immune system arrives there and starts a fight. And then we suppress the immune system. We hold it responsible for a crime it's not committing and we give you high doses of corticosteroids, anti-inflammatories, to try to control the inflammation instead of saying, "Why did the immune system show up in the first place? Why is a police officer at my house kicking in my door? Oh, there's a bank robber inside. Oh, there's a heavy metal, there's a mold spore, a mycotoxin, a parasite."

Viruses, same way. When a virus arrives to a cell, what it does is it sticks to the cell wall and injects its DNA, and then it takes over the function of that cell. A virus is not a living thing. It needs a cell to survive. So, it survives by injecting its DNA. It's like being bitten by a zombie. Now you're a zombie, right? So, a cell bitten by a virus becomes that virus, for lack of better explanation.

Uh, and also, I just want to say Dr. Dale Bredesen, who is a brilliant doctor who studies Alzheimer's and dementia, he says looking at all those things also helps prevent Alzheimer's because you're reducing your viral load. You're reducing your toxic load, which will help, you know, your brain. Amen. In addition to these other things, this can help you in a number of ways.

But I want to keep going because there's so many, so many other things. You had a woman on your show recently talking about your feet. No one thinks about their feet as important to longevity, but I listened to the two of you and I went, "I have to say, I bought a pair of the ugliest sneakers I have ever seen."

So bad.

They're going to make us live longer somehow, Gary.

I know, but they're so not fashionable, Megan. [laughter] Um, but I mean, if you just look at the general shape of the foot. The foot's shaped like a Y. Look at the general shape of a shoe. It's shaped like a pyramid, and so...

Like a pizza.

Yeah, pizza. It's shaped like a slice of pizza, but that's usually processed food. So, let's stay away from the pizza analogy. Megan, shaped like the uh C, you know, the uh capital building. So, you have this uh pizza shape to most shoes, but you have a Y shape to our feet. And if you look at what happens, bunions and corns and things like that, you know, the toes start to turn in towards each other. We also, because our shoes, we some running shoes even have carbon fiber insoles, like flat insoles. So, we're losing the original strength of our feet.

There's an amazing book called Born to Run. It was about Mexican tribes that run 60, 70 miles on a regular basis every week barefoot, and they have no ankle injuries. They have no foot injuries. They don't have knees and hip and low back injuries because the foot is adaptive. The foot has 300 planes of motion that it moves in. Has 20, I want to say, seven bones. Um, so the foot is meant to adapt to different surfaces. It's meant to be malleable. Um, and when we cast it and we put it in narrow toes, high heels are the worst. They're the most poor anatomical position for women.

Um.

And so we do damage to our feet. Um, you know, I've seen photographs of a lot of NBA players, famous NBA players. These are online. They're the grossest things you've ever seen. Ingrown hairs. I mean, ingrown toenails. Um, toes literally overlapping with other toes. Um, you know, this very pizza shape to all of the toes at the distal end of the foot. So, this is a very unnatural position for us. So, yes, wider toed, Y-shaped shoes. Um, great for you. Being barefoot is excellent for you. Toe strength is right up there with grip strength in terms of how we can determine how balanced we are. So, in elderly people that lose toe strength and they lose foot strength, it's very easy for them to fall.

And she was saying that if you keep your toes out and you like lift your big toes, that's good. Like do that to keep your, you know, some toe strength. Separate your toes apart so that they're not together. Try to raise just your big toe. It's way harder than you think.

All right. Now, what about ferments? Because RFK Jr. and a bunch of other people in the administration are on some diet where they're eating red meat and ferments only.

Well, right now, he is only eating uh meat and fermented vegetables. [snorts] So, what that looks like is, um, in the morning at 6:30, he's cooking a steak and eating sauerkraut.

So, what happens when you guys go out to eat? Is he like waiting till you get back home to eat?

Now, this is, I don't know if he wants me saying this either, but who cares? Um, [clears throat] he's so dedicated to this diet that he's eating that he will bring his own sauerkraut to a restaurant. [laughter] Which, by the way, Katie, you will appreciate this because we'll be in the car dressed up. I'll have like a little...

It's got back.

I'll have my little clutch, right? One of my good bags that I only take out every once in a while because I, I want to keep them nice. And he'll hand me a bag of sauerkraut and say, "Can you put this in your bag?" [laughter] And I'll say, "I actually cannot." And you know what? If you would have told me when we were inside, I would have brought a different bag. But what you're about to put in this bag is not okay. I'm going to give this bag to one of my daughters. When I die, this is not a sauerkraut bag. You be, if you tell me ahead of time, I can bring a sauerkraut bag. [laughter] [gasps]

You know what I mean? [laughter] Advance, I won't bring the Chanel. I'll bring...

Exactly. What do you make of those?

So, fermented foods, um, are going to, first of all, they're excellent for your body. They have great probiotic flora in them. I eat a lot of sauerkraut, a lot of kimchi. Some really interesting research coming out on kimchi and microplastics, correlated, not causal, meaning they can remove microplastics from the body. This is a correlated result so far. Um, but fermented foods have two things. One, they have soluble and insoluble fiber. Soluble fiber is what turns into free fatty acids and produces something called butyrate, which is an anti-cancer molecule and it also lowers inflammation. Um, insoluble fiber moves through the gut as bulk, and we know that high fiber diets are correlated to decreased risk of colorectal cancer. And so, one of the things that you can do is reintroduce fermented foods and you get the benefits of soluble and insoluble fiber, reduction of inflammation. We would call these foods anti-cancer. Uh, they're not to treat cancer, but we call them anti-cancer. The bulk moves through as bulk, and the soluble fiber turns into free fatty acids and butyrate.

Really good for you.

All right, there's a free tip for you. Now, peptides. All the latest, you know, big celebs, they love the peptides.

Yeah, I mean, I'm a big fan of peptides. I've used them myself and used them with really good effect. Um, you know, with on a couple of injuries.

I love peptides.

Peptide plumping or nail polish?

Peptide plumping. I guess I just don't really care about my nails.

I've been enjoying my peptides.

I got restocked on my peptides, which I've kind of cycled off, and I love them.

These peptides, these are pills?

I love them.

Like Joe Rogan, BPC-157, a synthetic 15 amino acid peptide derived from a protein found in human gastric juice, marketed for tendon, ligament, muscle, and gut repair. Is that something we should be taking? And is there another peptide you like?

No question. Um, first of all, so just a quick explanation on peptides. Peptides are not new, novel, recently discovered molecules. Peptides are generally things that are made endogenously in the human body. Insulin is a peptide. GLP1 is a peptide. We have a trillion-dollar industry built on the back of a peptide that we make in our own gut. And we make this peptide, GLP-1, in response to nutrient density. Um, GHKCU, the famous copper peptide for the skin. We make this in the human body. So, peptides very often are endogenous. We make them in the human body. That's the first thing. The second thing is they are signaling molecules. They usually tell the body to do something. Produce more growth hormone. Produce more testosterone. Send platelets to this location and heal this tissue. So, it taps into the body's innate systems that already exist. Very often, as we age, the body does not lose the ability to produce youthful levels of things like growth hormone, testosterone, other hormones. The signal gets turned down. So, in other words, if you walked into a room and you could barely hear the music, you wouldn't go mess with the speakers. You would find the tuner and you would turn the tuner up, and the music would play louder. This is how peptides work. They're signaling molecules. They're like the tuner. And so, because they're amino acids, they actually have enzymes in the body that recognize them and can break them down and eliminate the waste. The reason why you don't desensitize to food. You can eat 1500 calories a day for the rest of your life. Why don't you have to eat 10,000 calories 10 years from now? Because your body is not desensitizing to food. It's not building a tolerance to food. Why? Because we recognize it. We have enzymes to break it down. We can store it as energy. We can use it to build structures or we can eliminate it. Peptides fall into this category. What's fascinating about peptides, I think these are big farmer's worst nightmare, is that it can signal the body to accelerate wound healing. BPC157, TB500, GHKCU, peptides that already exist in our body, amino acid chains that we already have. We can add these back to the body and we can accelerate wound healing. There are peptides that are anti-anxiolytic, that actually reduce the impact of anxiety. They have impacts on brain-derived neurotrophic factor, BDNF. Uh, there are peptides that cause our body to secrete something called telomeres and lengthen our telomeres. Um, so peptides are something that we've been using for the last 10 years in clinical practice. We, my team of physicians, probably written over a quarter of a million prescriptions for peptides, uh, without a single adverse event, serious adverse event. Itching and rashes at the site of injection, um, minor infection at the site of injection for not being sterile, um, are some of the side effects, but those are not related to the peptide, those are related to the injection. There are certain peptides that have contraindications. You should always have a physician do these. But the Pharmacy Compounding Advisory Committee is meeting on the 23rd of this month. And I pray that there is a positive recommendation to the FDA that they turn into guidance on peptides, taking these off of the Category 2 and putting them on the Category 1 list. I will be in Washington on Monday advocating for this myself.

That's great to hear. Okay. Well, I'm excited about these because, as you say, big farmer's nightmare. They actually seem like they're helping people, and it's not necessarily a game of, "And now we're hooked for life and we're just going to make tons of money off of you."

That's true. And the more I hear, the more interested I am. I'm not, I don't think I'm on any peptides, but I'm interested.

I don't think any. I love that. You can go to my website.

I'm going to have to actually look.

And I do a whole educational series on peptides.

I loved our conversation. I'm so grateful to you, Gary. Thank you for all the great work you're doing. Check out the ultimatehum.com. Ultimatehum.com.

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The ultimatehum.com. All the best to you and all the best to all of you. Tomorrow, first-time guest, Alex Bruowitz, will be here. Boy, does he have a lot to say. You'll see. [music]