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[Music] This is the common feed system in the market. And this is Fan >> Cost management system [Music] Fuel that is free of hidden fees with benefits and Max Points >> [Music] >> Biso, hello, Mr. Moo. >> Hello. >> Mr. Suwat Natchin Sadsak, you are a committee member. Go Back has a piece of news that I want to change the topic. That is, right now, Xi Jinping invited Anutin and Mr. Net to join the event, uh, WIC, at Shanghai. And they invited 29 countries worldwide, uh, to organize, uh, what they call an AI conference to create global standards. But what's surprising is that the leaders of 2 countries, Mr. Anutin and Mr. Net, were invited to be prominent leaders, took close-up photos, and had events. Mr. Moo, do you think the world of AI will change anything in the future for China? >> Let's start with this. I'd like to compare it like this in the world of technology. Over the past few decades, there have been many times when technology was inferior, cheaper, and most importantly, this is very important, given away for free to use. >> Uh-huh. >> To set a standard so that users incur costs to migrate or switch. >> Uh-huh. >> But not but but reduce the cost of, uh, connecting them. >> Uh-huh. >> For example, I'll give you the example of the iPhone. >> Uh-huh. >> Before, did you see the problem? What was it? Oh, you use its programs. Oh, you can't use it with Excel. >> Uh-huh. >> In the past, it was cheap. This is called compatibility. >> I'll give you two examples, and it will come again to this day, to this scenario. >> The first one I can think of, do you remember when new video technology emerged? >> Uh-huh. >> There were two technologies. >> Yes. Beta. >> Max VHS. >> Beta Max and VHS. If anyone remembers, Sony's Beta Max was better than VHS. >> It came out first. >> But why did it lose and eventually go bankrupt? >> Yes. >> Because VHS used the strategy of, okay, then movie studios, I won't charge any fees. >> Uh-huh. >> In other words, Open Source. >> Uh-huh. >> Right, Mr.? >> Open Source. >> Uh-huh. >> In the end, it won the war again. The second one I saw was the competition between operating systems. >> If we go back again. >> Android. >> No, it's not. It's, uh, >> iOS. >> D. >> D, is that Microsoft? Windows D. Windows and Apple. >> Uh-huh. >> In the beginning, Windows was with Apple, and Microsoft itself emerged from >> D operating system. >> Uh. >> Which was not as good as Apple. >> Uh-huh. >> But why did Apple go bankrupt at that time? >> Because. >> Because they gave it away for free. >> Monopoly. >> Called Open. >> Monopoly. >> Open Code, same thing. So, back to today, Mr. >> Uh-huh. >> What method is China using? >> Uh-huh. >> China is using Open Code. >> Actually, Android is too. Android is open. Apple is still closed. It's similar. >> But Apple has created its own ecosystem. >> Uh-huh. >> A lot. The question is, today, China's AI versus America's AI, if we use America's AI, is there anything that prevents us from switching to China's? >> Not at all. We can switch. >> Okay, let me rephrase the question. >> But in the case of IP, it's not like that. >> Apple is used to its system. It's not. >> No, no, no. Android came first. >> Came much earlier. >> Ah, so they had time to build a base, to build followers. This is slightly different. But if you ask today, does America's AI have enough time or is it good enough to build a follower base like Apple did? >> Yes, but not enough yet. >> I think China and the United States are doing things differently, in my opinion. >> Uh-huh. >> Capability is one thing. >> Uh-huh. >> But what I feel is that China is still truly open source. >> Uh-huh. >> But they are still semi-closed in their applications. I don't know. It's like they still focus on the Chinese language, still doing everything that is more suitable for Chinese people. >> Suitable for Chinese people. >> Right? No, no, no, because don't forget, once you leave China. >> It's not very good. >> Even us Thais. >> Uh-huh. >> We are used to Western systems. >> Uh-huh. >> Let me put it this way, we are not used to Chinese systems. Even Baidu, how many people use it, Mr.? >> Ah, I'm an example. >> Right? >> Because it's not, the Chinese language is not familiar. >> Uh-huh. >> It [inhales] has an impact. >> Uh-huh. >> I think China hasn't reached the point where they make people accept it more easily, and use it without feeling like it's a foreign language, called alien. Not extraterrestrial aliens, but alien, meaning unfamiliar. >> Yes. >> China is still like that for people outside of China. >> Yes. >> This is one point that makes me feel that no matter how good Chinese apps are, no matter how cheap they are, they can't make a huge leap. >> They can't go outside the country. >> Uh-huh. >> It's still like that. Another thing, I think many countries will say, "Oh, China, no. We're afraid China will steal data because China doesn't have PDP, what is it, PDPA?" This will be another problem. I think this is why technological competition is one thing, and we have to admit that China is still following. But China is very good, no doubt about it. They are very good at applying it. >> Uh-huh. >> To make it suitable. >> Uh-huh. >> Like we discussed at the beginning, Mr. Moo, about K3. >> Yes. >> That one. >> Kimi K3. >> Kimi K3 is very good, almost as good as GPT 5.6. >> Uh-huh. >> Close to CR. >> Uh-huh. >> The latest version. In terms of what we measure now, AI Foundational Model. We have to explain what it is first. There are many, but the AI we talk about, where we ask it to help calculate, help think, help answer, help do things, it's using AI Models, right? This Foundational Model, right now, the very good ones are China's K3, and then competing with, and then ChatGPT. There are only three big ones. >> Uh-huh. >> The most obvious thing is capability. Let's talk about capability first. >> Uh-huh. >> K3's capability is still slightly less. >> Uh-huh. >> But, >> Uh-huh. >> But the cost per unit of data. >> Uh-huh. >> K3 is cheaper. >> Uh-huh. >> CR is 4 times cheaper. >> 3 times. >> Uh-huh. >> Think about it. If you pay 100 for this, you pay 30 for that. >> Ah, yes. >> And the performance is similar. >> Uh-huh. >> Would you take it? >> Uh-huh, uh-huh. >> This is the problem. >> Uh-huh. >> ChatGPT's cost is probably about twice as much. >> Uh-huh. >> That's why I say America, why America fears China. Speed is one thing. >> Uh-huh. >> Cost-effectiveness is another. >> Uh-huh. >> I think this is what they are competing on. Some people still think that the owner of the technology will be the winner. >> Uh-huh. >> That's not true. >> Uh-huh. >> Sometimes it's not like that. >> Uh-huh. >> The technology that people accept faster, easier, and cheaper will be the winner. This is more important. But it happens that China is still lacking in one aspect, which we discussed earlier. It's not designed to be used globally. But if I imagine, if one day China's model, for example, can easily adjust languages, just press a button, oh, it's Chinese. We put in English, we put in Thai, and it doesn't distort the answers or the thinking. When it reaches that point, it's close, Mr. If it reaches that point, the open-source nature will shine. Let's put it this way. Right now, it shines for those who focus on low cost and want to code. But it doesn't shine for ordinary people like us who use it. We feel that if it's not in our native language, it's not good enough yet. But it's getting better and better, Mr. Thani said, right? It's getting better and better. So I think it's close. It's close. Maybe next year. >> That is. >> We will see that picture. >> I feel that the language is comparable to before. This is the language we use, with no distortion at all. >> You read it and think, "Wow, a Thai person wrote this." Actually, it wasn't written by a Thai person. It's just translated. It feels really smart. Nowadays, we can't tell that it wasn't written by a Thai person. It's impressive. >> It's trained, Mr. >> Uh-huh. >> It keeps training, and everything looks good. >> They call it the principle, Mr. Doing it for a long time until you become proficient. Now you're about to become an expert. [Laughter] >> So, Westerners are already experts. The models are. But China is becoming Chinese experts. Not yet, but starting to become proficient for people outside of China, like us. >> Yes, the meaning is that AI learns, so it develops quite quickly. And there are data centers with a large amount of data for it to learn from, so it's fast. If Mr. Moo thinks that in China's case, they will be the world leader, meaning they will set the standard, like EVs. AI will be a part of it, similar to EVs. They will lead, beat the US, and set the standards for this and that in the future. Is it possible to win? >> I think it's like politics. It's unlikely to be a single. >> Uh-huh. >> Likely multi-polar. >> Uh-huh. >> Maybe China and Western camps. >> Uh-huh, uh-huh. >> I strongly believe that. >> Because why? Because I think Westerners themselves, Europe, etc., it's difficult for them to open their hearts and accept China 100%. >> Oh, really? They still feel inferior. >> If we compare it to, let's say, Japan today. >> Japan wouldn't choose China. >> Ah, no, I mean, if it were, if it were Japan, I think. >> South Korea, there's no problem because these two countries are on the same side as the West. >> They won't cross the GL GL pole. >> Let's say India. India has a lot of people. Will Indians choose China? >> I think at most, half. >> Oh. >> The reason is, as I said, India doesn't have much in common with China. >> But they are not as Westernized as they are. >> Ah, so it's half. [Laughter] It's the Indian style, of course. >> But Russia is the same. Russia will probably choose China. >> The same. >> The same? >> I think in the end, if, let's say, Russia uses 50-60% Chinese and the rest Western, for example. >> Russia might do that. But today, Russia may not have that many options. >> So, what about Thais? Can Thais figure this out? >> Actually, Thais are in a good position. We can choose China, or we can choose China's model, right? We can choose Western. >> We can have it all. >> We can have it all. But if we have to choose, it depends on the individual. >> Yes, it depends on what you like. Wow, there are many choices. Right now, they can't compete yet. Simply put, Google Maps. Actually, Chinese maps, A Map, or Baidu, they can compete, but they don't support Thais. >> This is the point I'm making. When you don't intend to design it to support people outside of China, maybe the time hasn't come yet. >> Uh-huh. >> When the time comes, China will open up. See? For example, tea shops, coffee shops. When the time comes, they will go out. See? Before, we used to think, "Will Chinese beverage shops work? Will Thais accept them?" Now, that's not the problem anymore. Now it will be another problem. [Laughter] >> They have reached a standard. >> See? I think the development of each thing has its own point. >> It's just that today, there is some politics involved. So, if you ask, will China dominate the world alone? No, they won't. >> Even EVs today haven't done that, Mr. >> Yes. >> But they mostly dominate. Westerners don't compete. Americans, Europeans, they don't want it. [Laughter] No. >> Mr. Moo, look at America. They don't want it either. See? So, what do you think about AI? >> Let's assume. >> No. >> China's performance is much better. >> That's not the case. >> Uh-huh. >> How can it be used? >> It's like today, Telkom. >> Huawei. Huawei. Yes, this is the point. >> Uh-huh. >> Who said that America only builds border walls? >> No, they are actually building technological walls. >> Right, Mr.? >> Right. >> Not letting in, not letting out. >> But some people criticize this, saying that if you keep doing this, you yourself will fall behind because there is no competition. You let people use old things and don't adopt modern ones. >> Actually, this is what's happening with China. >> Uh-huh. >> Why? Why does Xi Jinping have to crack down on tech from time to time? Because when tech becomes like Jack Ma. >> Uh-huh. >> Doing it continuously, when they become rich to a certain point, they can control the government. >> Yes, that's right. >> That's why Jack Ma was targeted. >> Yes, that's right. >> But America is like that, somewhat like that. >> Uh-huh, uh-huh. >> Similar to that. >> But America is a free country. It. >> But there's more complexity to that. >> Uh-huh. >> There are tech groups. >> Uh-huh. >> There are state groups, there's a complex, right? And there's the government. >> Uh-huh, they are all tangled up. And there's another group. >> The financial group. >> Ah, so it's more complicated, Mr. >> There are many powers. >> But China's is not that complicated. >> Uh-huh. >> It's just one. And there are private companies. >> Private companies. Oh, that's trivial. >> So, it's easier in terms of management. But we see that it's not 100% free. But is anywhere 100% free? Is China 100% free? Is America 100% free? >> But I think China is extremely free compared to the US. The US still squeezes here and there a lot. >> Yes, but people are used to the US being free. Why? Because they are extremely free with. >> Those in these 3-4 groups. >> Right, Mr.? >> Right. >> These 3-4 groups are extremely free. >> No one bothers them. >> Some businesses in the US are extremely monopolistic. >> Do you know there's a law? There's a very clear law. >> Even on Wall Street, in the past, IB, they called it Investment Banking. >> And banks were separate. >> Uh-huh, uh-huh. >> They used to be merged. >> Uh-huh. >> And they went bankrupt. >> Because there was a conflict of interest. >> Uh-huh. >> And they separated. The law separated them. The Glass-Steagall Act. >> Uh-huh. >> They separated. After separating, now they are merged again. >> Ah, why? >> Ah, this is why they are merged again, and they even repealed that law. Isn't that funny? At that time, that law was enacted because it happened. And IB dragged. >> Uh-huh. >> It dragged, uh, banks into bankruptcy. Because, Mr., don't forget, the nature of banks is that they must be safe. >> No bank runs. Bank runs don't necessarily mean bankruptcy, but if people are scared, you go bankrupt. >> But IB really went bankrupt. >> Uh-huh, uh-huh. >> When they merged, there were problems. They separated, and now they are merged again. >> [Laughter] >> The benefits. >> It reflects what? You say free, but is that freedom correct? We don't know. >> Free because those who benefit. Who benefits? >> It's a very complex country, America. It's not easy to understand. China is also complex, not understandable. >> It's complex, of course, Mr. >> Uh-huh. >> It's just a matter of how much we understand it. >> I want to say that if we understand it, we will know the reasons. Everything is governed by reasons. Regarding AI, I also think that in the future, China will set the global standard, and others will follow. If they can't do that, they won't be the leader in AI. And I'm afraid that China is investing a huge amount of resources in AI. They say China has one advantage: a large human resource and a lot of electricity. So, will they have an advantage in these two aspects, Mr. Moo? >> I think that in the end, I believe that in the end, maybe in our generation, or in 20-30 years, China will lead, similar to what we see in solar power and other things. >> Uh-huh. >> But the West. >> They still have their own things. >> Uh-huh. >> I still believe it will be like that. Because in the end, what you said, human resources, money, and political direction are conducive. >> Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. >> Right, Mr.? It's conducive. That's why when it's conducive to a certain point, America gets scared. >> America, I must say, if they weren't so scared, why would they ban this brand and that brand? This is clear. And if today, Mr., imagine if all brands were removed. >> Uh-huh. >> How far do you think China can go? >> Uh-huh. >> And, Mr. Moo, I ask everyone. >> If today, China and the US don't ban anything from China. >> Uh-huh. >> Do you think China's AI will win? Absolutely. >> It will win, and it will win quickly. But I'm thinking, does the banning slow it down? >> It slows it down first, but it also acts as a catalyst. Because in the end, first, you have to, otherwise, Huawei is the clearest example. It almost went bankrupt when it was banned. >> Right? >> And then it came back. >> But in the end, Huawei became stronger. >> Stronger than before. >> Ah, because they can make chips, they can make AI. See? Otherwise, I think Huawei might not be doing these things now. >> They were able to come back, which means they proved they are truly strong. >> But it almost went bankrupt. "Almost went bankrupt" means the mobile part, not the whole company. >> Yes, the phone part also became great again, but not as great as before. >> Uh-huh. >> They lost opportunities. But AI, AI still looks uncertain. It's not clear whether the US will win or China will win. But looking at the overall picture, China's AI has an advantage in the two aspects I mentioned earlier. This makes me think that the chance of winning is very high, so America is scared. >> Let's say if there are no restrictions. >> Uh-huh. >> Naturally. >> If America had no bans, I think China would win. >> Ah, and if they ban, will they lose? Will China lose? >> No, if they ban, China will stumble, just like today. Why can't China make chips below 7 nanometers? >> Uh-huh, uh-huh. >> Because they are banned. >> Uh-huh. >> But it's not that China can't. But it forces China to find other ways, which takes a lot of time. >> Uh-huh. >> Mr., it's not that easy. >> I understand. Instead of getting it quickly. >> Oh, if there were no restrictions, I think China would have already surpassed them. >> Uh-huh, uh-huh. >> And China has no. >> Yes, but if they are banned now, under these circumstances, China might be delayed by 5-10 years. But in the end, China will catch up to a certain level. But what. >> What we think, we don't have to guess. Application. >> Uh-huh. >> Real-world application will lead far ahead, Mr. Moo. Humanoid physical AI. >> Right now, AI is creating world changes. >> Uh-huh. >> From the phase where it started as just a simple model, and now it's a model that can do many things, help people. >> Uh-huh. >> Let me ask you this, Mr. Moo. Today, AI is mostly at the level of mobile usage, in organizations as bots, and for us, right? But it hasn't reached the level of factories extensively, 100% yet. I think in the future, it will be like that. It will penetrate everywhere. >> Uh-huh. >> Right? Like in the era when it was called smart, smart. >> Uh-huh. >> But now it's not just smart, it's smarter. >> Uh-huh. >> When it becomes like that, China will have an advantage. >> Uh-huh. >> Because China has captured a large part of the global market. >> Uh-huh, uh-huh. >> Let me put it this way. >> Uh-huh, uh-huh. >> If America comes, where will it apply? Where will it go? >> Nowhere. >> There are not many places to try. >> No. >> But China has its own country to try, which is more than enough. This is what I believe is China's trump card. But right now, for China to catch up technologically with the US, it's not there yet. >> Uh-huh. >> And another reason why China is faster, maybe 5. >> Uh-huh. >> But AI technology moves 10 steps. See how fast it is? >> Uh-huh. >> It's very fast. >> We are talking about AI that has only recently entered our world, seriously, since ChatGPT, right? November 2022. If we count from today, how long has it been? >> 4 years. 3 years. >> 3-4 years, but do you feel that wow, everything has changed? >> I feel like it's constantly crashing into our lives. >> Uh-huh. >> I went traveling, this is true. Before, we had to ask Google, "Where should we eat? Where should we park in this city? We've never been here before. Where can we park?" And then we tried asking. Wow, it told us in detail, where to park, the closest one, please rank them 1, 2, 3, 4. It came out. In any city we go to, it answers us in a second, and it tells us. It tells us how far it is from the attraction. It tells us everything. >> Park here. And then it links to Google Maps too. >> Uh-huh, yes, yes. >> Oh [laughter]. >> I was surprised. >> It's that much. Oh, we're going there. Everything is done. >> Ask, "Please plan this." It does it all. For example, if I say, "I'm traveling from tomorrow to this city, what are the interesting places to visit?" It comes out. "Focus on history, focus on food." It comes out in sets. It's very fast. >> That's right. And this is just a simple thing. >> Oh, wow. >> If it gets easier, we just tell it in the car, and it will do everything. We drive there, and it's all done. >> I [laughter] indicate that AI is not a trend. >> Yes. >> It will be a trend when. >> Yes. >> When people don't know how to use it. >> That's right. >> Or they stop and don't accept it. >> Uh-huh. >> This is it. >> Older people find it even harder to understand. >> Actually, we can use ourselves as a reference. We are old. [Laughter] >> Not old yet, not old yet. >> Because we were born, we weren't born without computers. >> Yes, we learned a lot. We know. But people who didn't learn have a hard time. >> Uh-huh. >> But actually, is it difficult to use? It's not that difficult. >> It's difficult to understand. Some people can't ask questions, or even understand when and how to use it. >> Actually, I'll just give an example. I'll ask a stupid question. Today, I'll walk about. >> Uh-huh. >> Uh-huh. And then where should I eat? Just ask that. >> This is a very common question. It will come out in sets. >> Really? Restaurants near home, etc. >> No, it will ask me, "If you want more detail, the more detail, the easier it is to answer, right?" >> Uh-huh. >> Okay, how much will you pay? Which menu? It will find everything for you. >> It's like Google, but Google that can connect everything together. >> Exactly. And it will tell you, "This restaurant is like this, like that." Wow, it recommends. >> It comes out in sets, in a series. Google doesn't even do that, Mr. >> Uh-huh. >> That's why I say, is it difficult? It's not that difficult. >> Uh-huh. >> But I feel one thing. Today, if something is very specific. AI is not that good yet. For example, if you ask it to do something, like you just asked me to do this, it will generate a general answer because the data is general. >> Uh-huh. >> It understands it. >> That's exactly what people who know how to use AI need to learn. >> You see, photographers. If you take a photo, and it's crooked, or tilted. For example, when we take photos of tall buildings, we can't take them straight like this. We have to tilt them like this, right? And it will look like a triangle. >> Uh-huh, uh-huh. >> Ask it to make it straight, and it can do it all. >> It can adjust the image? >> Adjust the color to be natural, adjust the light to be like evening. Remove people, except for the main person. >> It can do it all, Mr. >> It imagines for us what it will look like. >> Not a real photo, but a generated one? >> Yes. >> This means that the user must know that it can do this. Or, for example, making dramas. AI dramas. >> Yes, yes. >> I think if everyone can do it, soon there will be no need for people to make movies. I watched an AI drama. I think the person who made the AI drama is very talented because they have to eat, come up with a plot, right? And then let AI do it. >> Uh-huh. >> So it's about, and I still wonder how to command it to get what we want. For example, "Oh, zombies have taken over the city. Make a thrilling movie like this." >> If you just order that, it will be thrilling as AI thinks. >> Uh-huh. >> But if you have your own clear idea of how to make it thrilling, starting from. >> For example. >> Uh, the first 20% is boring. For example. >> Uh-huh. >> Gradually. >> Uh-huh. The more detailed you order, >> Oh, the better it gets. >> Like [coughs]. If it's an image, if you are a cinematographer and you order, "Do this. You have to make it like this filter, put this in, this color." >> Oh, it can do it all. We have to have knowledge too. >> How can we order? We don't have the knowledge of a shutter speed of 1/125 second. >> Aperture. >> If you can order that much, it will make you, wow, like a professional photo. >> In other words, it can imagine what we can't do with our bare hands. >> Uh-huh. Create a drama from childhood to adulthood for Mr. Thani. [Laughter] >> Suppose we put in our history. Make a drama of my life for me to see. >> Oh, it can do it, Mr. >> Oh, interesting. >> Uh-huh. >> Soon. >> Soon. >> Ah, we wonder about that letter from Grandma. Is it done this way? Is it done this way? [Laughter] >> No, the plot. The plot is not something AI can think of. The plot still needs people to think, right? It's about creativity. You can't just order AI, "AI, make the plot more exciting." It probably can't do that. We have to plan the plot. I see AI as like a car. Before, we walked. Now we drive cars. It's faster, right? >> AI will also help us reach our goals faster. >> It's a very advanced, very capable tool. >> Better like this. >> But you have to know how to use it. >> Uh-huh. >> It's like knowing how to drive. >> If you don't know how to use it, it's like you have a mobile phone that can do everything, but you only use it for calls. >> Uh-huh, yes, yes. >> It's like that. >> Yes, so I think in the future, humans will be more comfortable because we save time on doing tedious things. >> Yes. >> Shorten it. >> Like the example of traveling. Oh, it's very easy. >> Right? Soon, there will be no need for guides. Tour guides will disappear. If you go to one place, you want to go to another, you've never been there before. >> Uh-huh. >> Put it in. >> Tell me about it. >> Uh-huh. There's history. Wow, it comes out in sets. >> It's fast. Right now, I. >> And it's fast too. In a moment. >> What I found is that when we arrive, no one explains it to us. >> Nowadays, there's another way. >> Uh-huh. >> Ask it, and it answers. >> But what about the history? >> Uh-huh. You don't want to write, take a photo. "Where is this place? What is its history? Why is it worth visiting?" Write it down, and it comes out in sets. >> Oh, it's really smart. >> Oh. >> I don't know how it does it, but I see people talking to it like a friend, asking this and that, and it keeps answering. >> Personal. >> Uh-huh. >> Ask it to do something, do this. And it learns too. >> Ah, there's one thing. I remember in the beginning, I asked it to go to this city, eat this, ask this. Later, when I arrived, I asked, "Can you recommend a restaurant here?" It said, "Do you want the steak style you used to eat, or do you want to try something different?" It remembers. >> Oh, really? >> Oh, wow. >> It's not remembering. It's learning. We asked it then. >> It assumes. It assumes. We ask about noodles often, so it knows. >> Or sometimes we ask, "Is this city worth visiting?" Like history. It says, "This city is worth visiting because it's different from the city you visited two days ago. This history is like this. This is an ancient fortress from the medieval period. This is another type of old city." It explains everything. And it references it for you. You didn't even ask. >> Oh, really? >> Oh, wow. >> Wow, it really knows. It knows that we asked before. It recorded what we asked before. >> Do you understand? The more you ask, the better it gets. >> Uh-huh. >> It learns more. >> So I thought, "Wow, this is very scary." >> Actually, it's like your personal secretary. >> It will remember that, "Oh, Mr. Thai likes this, dislikes that. Maybe when flying, he needs to sit in a certain way. He prefers a certain aisle. He likes to go to a certain airport." It will remember everything. >> My secretary doesn't have that. [Laughter] I remember myself. So, what we need to do is let AI be our secretary. We can benefit from it fully. Be our assistant. >> But this costs money, Mr. Because if you use it this much, the free one will be used up quickly. How much per month? >> Not paying at all. >> Paying? >> Uh-huh. Why are you so stingy? Don't want to pay. [Laughter] >> And what brand do you use? >> I [coughs] don't use it either. >> Ah, the older generation. They see their subordinates using it. They use courses, and they pay tens of thousands, which is expensive. >> Not even your subordinates. They use it for work. >> Uh-huh. Nowadays, the screens, the interfaces, most of them are made by AI. Humans don't do it anymore. It saves a lot of time. >> For what, Mr.? Editing. >> Uh-huh. Editing. First, second, making covers. AI does it all. >> Uh-huh. >> Employees are saying that, honestly, in the past, you needed one editor. You didn't need anyone to make the cover. Now you don't need to. You just order it, and it does it. So, there is this. I understand that soon people will lose their jobs because some jobs don't require people. And it's much faster than people. Making 10 covers in 10 minutes. In the past, it took 3 days. So, I think, Mr. Moo, as a stock analyst, will AI analyze instead of you soon? >> Actually, it can analyze. But as I said, it uses existing data. If new data comes in, it can't do it. >> Uh-huh. >> It's not fast enough. >> It can't summarize. >> But stock analysis, when you come in, you have to think first. >> Really? >> Because if you think slowly. >> You might miss it. >> Uh-huh. >> Because it changes. >> Uh-huh. >> It's fast. The faster something changes. >> Uh-huh. >> The more frequently it changes. >> Uh-huh. That profession. >> Uh-huh. Will be relatively safe. [Laughter] Actually, but anything that is routine, repetitive, with the same pattern, is very risky, Mr. >> Ah, really? I'm also thinking about which professions will be disrupted a lot. Many things that don't require people. Call centers, I think soon AI will be able to talk like humans. >> There are many already, Mr. Call centers calling, AI calling, there are plenty. >> But they can talk and understand. I think soon there will be no need for call centers. Another important thing, these apps on our phones. I think soon people won't have to bother. AI will answer everything and can do all the work. What they call AI agents, Mr. Moo, do you understand what that is? >> You set it up. There's this person, this person, this person, this person. And you might assign them tasks. This one does this primarily, this one does that primarily. And let them work together as a team. >> Oh, that advanced. Connecting like you have a team of 4 people. >> You say, this person focuses on. >> Ah, productivity. This person focuses on what. >> And this person will be very good. The more they do, the better they get. >> Uh-huh. Like people. >> And you tell them to come together, have a meeting, and then summarize it. And it gives you a 30-minute clip to make it interesting. You tell it, and it can do it. >> Wow. >> Really. >> I'm starting to get interested. Soon. >> Soon, it will be like this. >> But that requires payment, because it needs a lot of data. >> Yes. >> So it has to be like, wow, do this and that. >> We are already paying a lot in salaries today. We have to change. Maybe it will reduce costs. This is just a fun thought. >> I think there's something called Human Touch. >> Uh-huh. >> Like my subordinates now, 7-8 people. >> Uh-huh. >> Can they do it? >> Uh-huh, uh-huh. >> I still don't prefer that. >> But I know my subordinates use AI to do it. >> Uh-huh, uh-huh. >> For example, if I ask them to write a report, they use AI to write it. >> Uh-huh. >> But we want to maintain what. >> Uh-huh. >> Has Human Touch. >> Uh-huh, uh-huh. >> Why don't we let AI write everything and not do anything? >> Uh-huh. >> It's not the same. >> There's still a feeling that it's human. >> Uh-huh. Or even speaking, there's still a little bit. Humans make mistakes. They say things wrong. They have non-verbal cues. AI is too good. >> It's too perfect. It speaks like a robot. Wow, so much information. >> Uh-huh. >> But it feels like it's a robot. It's not fun, simply put. >> Honestly. >> When this needs to be preserved, if not preserved, we will all become robots. >> No, we need to make mistakes sometimes. [Laughter] Uh-huh, say things wrong. >> Uh-huh. We need to make mistakes. That's normal. >> And we need jokes. >> Sometimes we need to be silly. [Laughter] It can't think of that. >> Uh-huh. >> So, what we see as Human Touch is a charm that we can't find elsewhere. >> And do you know what else? Hospitality. >> Why? >> Like service. >> Uh-huh. >> AI can't do that. You go to serve, you go to do. >> Oh, nowadays, when I go to a hotel, I don't want anything. [Laughter] I want to check in. It takes too long. Sometimes, wow, sometimes, what do you want so much? Sometimes. >> Is it in China? >> It's in many places. Sometimes it's slow, sometimes it's fast. Sometimes I wonder, why do they need so much? Sometimes the staff is new. By the time they finish, by the time they give us the key card, it takes 10 minutes. I say, wow. But there are some hotels that are very good. They do it in one minute. I see the difference. >> Chains are usually fast. >> Right? >> Uh-huh. Because if they do it fast, what happens, Mr.? Everything. Once you finish, I go to sleep. About half of them are chains. This chain, that chain. They send it. "Please give us feedback." >> Okay, I'll put it in. >> Oh, really? There's a survey. Agency, this is not working. >> I encountered a problem, and I complained. >> Uh-huh. That's it. >> Tired. >> And then it goes back to its system. >> Right? >> Uh-huh. >> I think being a robot is good. When you arrive, you state your name, give your passport, and then you go. Scan. >> But AI has a disadvantage. It recommended something. I went there, and wow, what should I see? Oh, it told me to go see this, this, this. Then I remembered. I went to the Royal Palace of Bhutan, which the Thai delegation sent by King Rama IV. >> 6. >> Go. >> Go. >> Met. >> King Louis XIII. >> Ah. >> Grandson of Napoleon. >> Uh-huh, uh-huh. >> That's the Royal Palace. And I was in a room, and there was this picture. >> Oh, really? >> There's this picture. Because at that time, King Louis XIII ordered it to be painted. >> To represent that not only Thailand, but Thailand is a part of it. He wanted to say that at that time, he opened the country, he was talking to this person and that person. And at that time, if not for him, they would have been overthrown. >> Uh-huh. >> Overthrown and replaced by a republic. >> Ah, it became a republic. >> It changed from a monarchy to a republic. >> Uh-huh. >> And then, the crisis of 112 occurred during that time. >> Ah, a bit of a shock. >> Uh-huh. And what I'm telling you is what. And I was going to see this. The tribute sent by King Rama IV. There was a crown and many other things. >> They said it's in the Chinese museum. >> Uh-huh. >> Right. Which actually has ancient Chinese artifacts stolen from the Yuanmingyuan Palace. >> Uh-huh, uh-huh. >> Remember when they burned it? And then they brought some back, and some are here. >> Uh-huh, uh-huh. >> Oh, you should go see it. >> Worth seeing. >> But when I got there, I finished walking, and they said, "Oh, where is this room?" I went to ask the staff, "Hey, where is this room, Mr. Chinese?" >> Uh-huh. Closed. >> Closed for repair? >> I don't know. >> Uh-huh. >> So I came out, and I wrote to complain. "Hey, AI, you told me this. Don't you know it's closed? Complain to AI." >> Actually [laughter]. >> And you recommended it. Why didn't you tell me so I wouldn't go? Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know. Thank you for telling me. And there's another one. When I went, they said, "Oh, we were joking." "You were joking?" "Yes, it really answered like that." >> How can you joke? >> How would I know? So, what does that mean? It means don't believe everything. >> Oh, it said it was open, but it was actually closed. >> Not just this part, not all of it. >> Uh-huh. They might not know. Maybe they didn't announce it was closed. They can't apologize. >> I don't know. >> Uh-huh. >> So, in the end, it depends on us. There will be some errors. Don't go all the way there and drive. It's not that AI knows everything. It doesn't know everything. We can't blame it. We need to investigate from multiple sources. It's possible that it was closed suddenly or without reason. So, don't believe AI. They say AI likes to lie too. >> And when it can't think of anything, it says it's white. >> Yes. [Laughter] >> It says, "Hey, you're so smart that you don't have to tell the truth?" >> It's like people. >> But you can't blame them. Because AI might learn, learn to adapt. Adapt so that people feel that sometimes it makes mistakes, sometimes it's right. It's normal in the world. It's not perfect. So, Mr. Moo, if you get any new information, let's discuss it in the clip so everyone can benefit. Finally, I want to ask Mr. Moo about oil. Your fear, how far will it go? Simply put, I want the audience to know your feelings. How scary will it be? Oil in the next few days. >> I think this time, oil has a higher chance than last time. >> Uh-huh. >> So, over 120. >> Uh-huh. Maybe it could reach 130, 140. >> It's possible. But if it reaches that point, I believe there will be a solution. Because the US, Trump, will be pressured in another way. And at that time, it will become a risk for the capital market, a risk for various things, right? We will see news like that. So we have to prepare for that. Regarding investment, regarding business planning, right? But in the end, I still see that the world is just adjusting itself. Adjusting itself so that variables change and the world becomes more balanced. I don't think in a few years, the next generation, the world will be more balanced. >> Uh-huh. >> And it will seem like there's more risk, but actually, as we discussed, it's about checks and balances. >> Uh-huh. >> And power balance. >> Uh-huh. >> And balance. >> Uh-huh. This is what I believe. >> Uh-huh. >> So I don't see it as many people say, "Oh, the world will be worse." Some people say, "I don't want to have children." I say, "It's not like that." I think. >> So, to summarize. >> I believe oil has a chance to reach 130-140 this time. >> Uh-huh. >> But I don't think it will reach 200. Because I don't believe Trump. >> Uh-huh. >> Or Iran wants it to reach that point. If both sides don't want it to reach that point, including China. >> Uh-huh, uh-huh. >> The chance of it reaching that point will be less. >> Uh-huh. So, I advise everyone to be careful. 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