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Get READY: The FINAL Interview Was EMOTIONAL! The Truth About 2026, It's NUTS! | Franco Romero

Emilio Ortiz1:48:55

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Hello family. I know that this time can feel like a very strange in between, like we're holding the weight of everything that we lived in 2025 while also sensing the pulse of the energies that are coming in for 2026. And I wanted to share for a minute about something that we've never done before. And it's a pivotal part about what we want to see for the new Earth, both co-leership and community convergence.

Our beloved multipletime podcast guest, Kelly Kaladne, channel for the angel Raphael and I are coming together for something truly historic and powerful. During this last month of the year, we're going to journey into a 3-w weekek light code featuring powerful Mary Magdalene frequencies. Our planet is currently seeing a surge in the embodiment of the divine feminine codes, and there's yet a need to find a balance with our masculine Christ consciousness energies. and you are invited to come together with us to truly end this year in a special way.

As part of this special offering, you'll be invited into two live virtual recorded events. One on 1212 and the other on the winter solstice that Kelly and I will be hosting alongside special guests. You will be provided with countless hours of transmissions and channelings that activate the union of the divine feminine and the divine masculine. Also, we are offering full access to 2 months of the deep dive membership. That means weekly circles, our whole library of exclusive Monroe Institute meditations, and a chance to connect with your soul family.

But beyond what's included, this is a container of shared integration. This is about birthing the new human, restoring the original codes of divine union and gathering as two tribes during key celestial portals while also navigating together the frequencies of the incoming threeey atlas. And finally, we'll end the year together like we've never done before. You can head over now to the link in description or scan the QR code on screen and be part of this historic convergence. We will intentionally begin on the full moon December 4th and I can't wait to see you all there. Much love.

>> Franco Romero, welcome. Just tap in.

>> You know, this this beginning of this podcast uh has me feeling some type of way emotionally. Um, I know you've said before that we will see more changes in the next year than we've ever experienced in the lifetime of 10,000 years of humanity.

>> Yes.

>> And right before we got on this call, you were telling me that >> this is most likely your last interview for the foreseeable future, for a very long time.

>> And so, I want to honor the moment. I want to honor this space that we have together and for you choosing this platform and this space uh with me to to do this with. Uh I wanted just to start off asking why are we entering a period of humanity that we've never experienced before and how you've witnessed that that is accelerating? what signs you've picked up on that are also forcing you as an individual to take a step back from this world into sort of a new chapter in your life.

>> Yeah. Um yo, you went right into that, didn't you? Uh so listen, first of all, always always always a pleasure to be here. we've established such a wonderful uh friendship u throughout this whole time and uh and so that has meant a lot and so the fact that as you pointed out and I had pointed out before I got on this is um this is my last interview uh for uh a very long time for at least as far as I can tell. Okay. And that doesn't really seem to be changing at all. So it's going to be a while.

Um, so here's the thing, Alio. Um, you know, I've always come in and I've always given a a a very objective and a very inspiring, I like to believe, uh, message about where things are at and where they're going and and and this isn't going to be that different. So, I want people to know that. Um, but I since since I really do feel the the the calling, if you will, to move into a different aspect of what I came here to do. Um, it was only it was only fitting that I would a do it with you. Okay. Um, because um because we're we're we're brothers from different mothers, you know. I actually I actually was going to wear the beanie thing, too, and and then I didn't. So I should have um but um but B um I I feel that that that you have always had a a very profound not that others haven't but a really profound desire to to not only um spread the the the message that others are bringing to the table but also use it in a way that would give you uh your own sort of personal um purpose. is to do it as well. And and that's and that's going to be huge going forward.

So, I've been talking about this for the last couple of years since I've known you that we're going through and and and and I also I'm going to do this a little bit more often than I would have in the past. But there are going to be some people, as you probably know, that are going to listen to this and go, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah." You know, I heard this before. Maybe you have. And maybe even I was part of the part of that noise too. But but there are there there is a clear clear um feeling that I'm getting. It's not even a feeling. It's through all the transmissions that I get through my through the through the channeling that I do. Um which lately has been quite a bit. um the personal experiences that I've gone through which I've talked you know I've offline I've talked to you about all the mystical stuff that has happened in my life in the last couple years um but but there's also just clear trends out there if we'll call them 3D trends that are clearly showing themselves to be part of the narrative that a lot of other people not just me have been talking about and um and that is that um that we whether or not people want to accept it whether or or not they're poo pooing it, whether or not they've heard it before 20 years ago by other people, we're at the end. We're we're we're really at the end. And and historically speaking, um you mentioned the 10,000 years. It's it's actually a little bit it's more of a 12,000ear cycle, but but we've heard about this, you know, various cycles that the that the planet is going through and and there's a lot of science behind it. You know, there's there's geological science behind it. There's uh historical, you know, references to a lot of things, metaphysical stuff, um spiritual references, but every indication, every indication astrologically and and and and like I said, in science and and whatnot, um there's every indication is that we're going through a through a cycle that is ending.

And in astrology, um there's a there are a couple of cycles that are ending right now in the in the next six months. Um that started at the beginning of this year. Planetary cycles about how and I'm not a big astrology guy and I've mentioned this in the past. I don't know all the houses and all that and all the all the various languages around it, but I do know this that the cycle that we're in right now is is is one that either it has only occurred every 12,000 years, which is a very very consistent cycle with the way the earth actually evolves from an ecological standpoint. Okay? Meaning that every 12,000 years or so, there's usually some sort of a catastrophic event that that basically changes everything. Okay? Um, and that's you people can look that kind of stuff up. Okay. But astrologically speaking, there's also calendars and and cycles uh that are also getting are coming to an end and and but what's different and you can talk to some you probably have talked to some of the astrologers of your of in your interviews that these are not just your ordinary cycles. These are cycles that are flipping um zodiac signs and and and changing every everything that we know that the astrological cycles have taught us are are completely being turned upside down or in what I would like to say right side up. Okay.

Um, but if you go out east uh many yogis and gurus and and even further out east uh to like like u Southeast Asia and in in Japan and places of that nature the the they're talking about their own cycles their own calendar periods that are also ending um at this precise time. And so so you have you have that. Now I will tell you that you also have for those people get a little sensitive to this there's also um psych a cycle within our own sort of uh Christian you know upbringing for those who were raised uh in in the in sort of that in that way. Okay. every there are enough things happening now that would indicate uh that this that we are at sort of sort of the apocalyptic ending to to humanity story except it isn't quite as apocalyptic as as it kind of gets blown out of proportion. Uh you go to you were just in Peru. Um you go into the indigenous uh areas of south, central, south and north America and they have they have their own stories about cycles there too and and signs of their own various signs like here in like the hopy here have had prophecies about this time period all the way down to the even specific nature of some of the people that would actually be in this period of time. Like for instance, there is a hopey pro I believe it's a hopy prophecy about a a u about the end the end times if you will being about connected to some individual that that has a red hat. You you know the red hat if you know what I'm implying is a very significant piece to the story. And right now there is a there is one person in this world who tends to wear a red hat a lot. Um and uh and has been very influential in the way that the the whole infrastructure of this 3D world has been fluctuating. There's there's uh North American uh traditions or prophecies about the white buffalo and the and how when the white buffalo would actually be born that there was be a prophetic time where we're hitting hitting this sort of end period.

Everything is pointing to that. Everything is pointing to that. Not to mention the thousands and thousands and thousands of people who have had all sorts of channeling prophetic ones and whatnot that have said that this is the time and all the the various mystics like Edgar Casey and others who have said the same thing. This is it. And and sometimes when you hear it once, twice, three times, five times, you tend to kind of brush it off. But there are way too many clear indications that everything is ending. And and I've mentioned this one before, but one of the biggest things that becomes very crystal clear at this time period is is the shattering of the of the linear timeline. Um, and I would venture to guess the nine out of 10 people that you would either interview in your shows or that just you hang out with um would tell you that time is not acting in the manner that it would normally have acted in the past. It's it's going too fast. Um, and and and that says a lot because in the past time has always kind of had this tendency of going fast, but it's either going too fast or it's so blurry you can't really tell at times what day of the week it is. Um, and so you have this and this has been talked about by various people including myself that this is one of the indications that when you're getting into 4D um consciousness when you're getting into the field of 4D okay there's a lot of unfortunately not enough time to cover all this but there's an un misunderstanding that people have about what happens when we get into 4D and 5D and and how somehow someway it miraculously changes is everything in in our lives and so it has the tendency it can do that it won't do that unless you meet it there okay and this is where I feel that if there's anywhere that I I have really seen a lot of that evolution in in humanity and in and if I may say in you is that you you are now receiving that at that level now as opposed to just kind of kicking back and you know looking at your watch and saying when is it going to happen when is it going to happen you're now intentionally becoming the beacon for for that energy to come in. And and when you start talking about it that way in esoteric terms, it sounds so like wooish a little bit, you know, but it but we don't understand the pure science behind what we're doing in the field to know that we're really becoming transmitters. And so, so once we're transmitting those higher levels of of frequency, um, in this particular case, fourthdimensional frequencies, which most people have no clue as to what 4D really is because they just have focused on 5D, but you can't get to 5D unless you go through 4D, and I've mentioned that early on. And 4D is is is this awareness that you have and and you and I again have talked about this off camera and and I know that you're doing a lot of things as well in in helping people to understand that there's a level awareness involved here in order for you to see the things that are coming into view. Because those things already exist. They're just not at a frequency you can experience right now. But the timelinearity is a big one. Time is not acting the way that it should or has been in the past. Days are becoming or feeling like weeks and months and weeks and months are feeling like days and they're happening at the same time. And when you have that kind of distortion in the field, that's a clear indication that you're going into fourthdimensional awareness because that has to do with space and time. And space and space is the only thing that exists. Okay? Time does not exist in the higher levels of dimensions. And so the further you go up, the more that time starts to wave in its fluctuation because it doesn't exist really. So what you're left with is a lot of space. And and this is something I feel undeniably most people can can attest to the fact that it's feeling very very stupidly weird when it comes to that experience. But there are other things. The Mandela effect is which we barely people don't talk about. It's not the sexy term anymore as it used to be years ago. But that's also that's going to go through the ceiling in terms of all the variations of a certain event that may have happened that you swear happened but didn't happen at least not according to the people around you.

>> Have you experienced some before >> Mandela effects?

>> Dozens of them. Dozens of them. Um, I have seen I mean a couple I mean there are more than I can can come up with right now and of course as I'm sitting here saying yeah there's been a lot but I I I'll give you one that that just happened just the just recently um I was I was walking around I live by a series of of lakes and not too long ago I was I was actually riding my my bike. I I'm pretty avid cyclist and and um and there was a bridge that apparently has been uh has been there since I can remember and I've lived there 2530 years. Um I've used that bridge many many many times um to get to a certain part of the neighborhood to get out of the lakes. Um one day it was gone. it was gone, but everybody in the neighborhood swears it was never there to begin with. Um, and that's just one tiny example. And because most of the time when you feel into the Mandela effect, you're looking at it from a broader, you know, the big earth changing events. But the Mandela effect properties are actually happening more at the micro level now where you swear something happened or on the flip side, you can't remember something to save your life. Okay. Like, yeah. And most people would say, well, you know, you got some cognitive issues that are happening. You're getting up there age. I'm not talking about me, but I'm saying that people, but it has happened to me where I can't for the life of me remember something that I should have and always had a sense of remembrance around and and but it's not coming through. I I've talked to a number of people, a lot of the students and stuff that I that I teach um are having the same symptoms. They're they're forgetting, but it's not like forgetting forgetting. It's like it never happened. And and and yet people are saying that it did. So, of course, in 3D language, they'd be all getting diagnosed or looked at to in terms of some sort of cognitive impairment, but uh, but they're too young and and and it's just it's not coincidence happening to a large group of people. So the further you go up in your consciousness, the more you disconnect with the vibration of the of the being of consciousness that you once were when you were in 3D, which means that the stories of that individual life also start to fade out to some extent.

>> We're becoming a new person.

>> You're be you're becoming a new person. And in fact, you're not becoming a new person. You're becoming who you've always been. You start to realize that. And this is exactly this. And this is the exact phenomenon that people have when they die and have a near-death experience that they disconnect from the body. And the body that they see there laying on the ground or whatever, they recognize it. But the stories behind that body, the consciousness that was in that body plane, that narrative over and over to convince you that you are who you are, starts to fade out, too. Um, and you start to remember that you've always just been playing in an avatar suit that has a story programmed into it, which becomes yours. You adopt it. And so, you're seeing a lot of that, too. A lot of that, too. So, the things that, and this gets into 2026, the things that people are going to experience are going to be nothing short of very um bizarre, mystical, magical, confusing, you name it. Because again, you are becoming the person that you have always been or the being that you've always been. You you the illusion of you starts to fade away slowly but surely. And when it does, it does leave a pretty uh impress impressionable mark on on your on your consciousness. That's, you know, your psyche because because you're going, "What the hell's going on here?" Um, so you have to make a little bit of an adjustment there. But this is all this is part of what's going to happen next year. It's already starting, but next year is going to come into full swing, which is uh when all these astrological and all these all these cycles and events end collide around spring or summer of next year, It's it's going to be it's going to be one big waking out party. Um, and it's going to leave a lot of people rather confused uh to say the least. Confusing yet not because they're going to it's not like they're going to walk into the situation and they're go where am I? Who am I? They're going to realize oh excuse my French here. No, not my French. Huge huge my I I actually have I had a French student and he was like no that don't do that. So, so >> excuse my Hispanic >> excuse my Hispanicness. Okay. Okay. Because I can say that I can say that I can say excuse my Hispanicness. Um, it it can be it can be a little bit hard on on on on the delicate uh consciousness that is still pretending that it's part of the game. So, so um that's huge. 4D is going to be huge in in next year be because of the remembrance piece that next year um is going to be doing on people. I I was going to say there then we wouldn't need to go through a near-death experience to have that realization of who we truly are, that expanded awareness of who we are. And in that connection there, I wanted to talk about this ancient coding or this ancient intelligence that you and many others with your soul signature are helping bridge through right now uh into this experience, this game that we're part of that will change the nature of what the game is. What is that ancient coding?

Well, I will be able to share it with you somewhat in a sort of 20,000 foot view uh because uh for for a number of reasons I wouldn't be able to do it in great detail right here. But but it's really not that difficult um to to understand it at least in its in its pure sense. um the the ancient codes, if you will, um they have to do with with the truth. Okay. Um and the truth can be a little bit of a tricky tricky thing because everybody seems to have their own version of the truth. Um at least every major religion would say that they have their version of the truth. Um, but if you dig in and and if you dig enough in just historically speaking where a lot of when you get beyond the stories, the parables, the the mythology, all that, when you when you dig deep enough into that, um, you start to you start to find that there's a consistent language, if you will. I wouldn't say language but a consistent theme of of a narrative that that we have been um excluded from understanding and and we've made it uh and we've we've given permission for others to to to create that narrative for us. And and so that by the time we um by the time we we get very to a very young age, we already don't know what what truth really is. At least the one that that we know as as consciousness as as spiritual beings. um we have an interpretation of truth that has been extraordinarily uh distorted. And um and and so the the trick is and and the the irony is is that all of this has been somewhat already said in in riddles and in clues because um because if you look at the Far East and the Dowists, they they will tell you that the truth is what Dowoism is all about. Okay? In fact, Dowoism is literally translated as the truth. Um, in Christianity, early Christianity, it wasn't called Christianity. It was it was actually called the way, the truth. Okay. Um, and in fact, Dowoism is the way, the truth. Okay. Um, and and so we have over complicated things and we um we have designed a perfectly an extraordinary game. I'm not kidding. I mean, I wish I could tell people this was a metaphor, but we have designed a game as intelligent beings that we are that literally convinces us that we are not who we are and then takes us on this extraordinary adventure to figure out who we are by taking us down so many different avenues. And a lot of those different avenues are actually kind of cool. They're really fun and mystical. I mean you you can go down the traditional routes which are the religions if you like to but those are really highly uh distorted. Okay. Um, but even if you went down your own path there there is so much mystery and mysticism around finding the truth. And so then we complicate it more by like say people who start to receive transmissions and they start to or they've had a near-death experience and they start filtering things. they start to filter things with their 3D lenses. And so what happens is that now all of a sudden you might have somebody is talking about the truth around, you know, truths that are coming out of things like astrology or the truth that that are coming out of things like u like like a Buddhist or a dowist or or some spiritual mystery school or astray said astrology, but you you name it. There's, you know, there's a whole bunch of different ways of looking at this. And some that have these really profound activations. They they see sacred geometry and they see and they and they and they start seeing uh colors and patterns and and formulas and and all this stuff and they sitting there and they're trying to dissect it all as if somehow they're supposed to. And in actuality, they're they're not. the if you do try to dissect them um and you're able to do that, good. Well, good for you. Yay. Um, but you're not really all you're supposed to do is receive them because you are in of in and of yourself. You are a vessel of intelligence, an extraordinary vessel. It is like the science behind this vessel, let's call it the body, just to use the body, is so advanced. it it is so advanced that it does not the science does not exist here in in in this world. Okay. And you can start to appreciate that now Amelia because you can start looking at what AI is doing today and it brings to life photos. Okay. And it brings to life people in a two-dimensional way. Okay, that look like they're real. But then the question is what is real? Because because this is not real. This is this is an advanced version of AI that has been created in the ninth dimension. Okay.

>> Can we get into more of that a little bit?

>> Yeah. What would you like to know? What would anybody like? So when you talk about the ninth dimension, are we talking about there's an intelligence that decided to create this thirddimensional realm or game or playground, however we want to call it, for what purposes in that sense?

Yeah. See, here's where we get into, yeah, we have we've never gone into this place, but this is the whole uh world's a prison kind of a thing that some people like to talk about, and that, my friend, is absolutely false. Okay. Um even even uh my my good friend Roomie which which maybe he was at some other lifetime but my good friend Roomie talks about why do you why do you stay in the prison that you've created yourself okay the door the door is wide open there's some famous roomie saying about the prison that we create okay um there there is no okay easy easy physics and this is why I'm saying when you know so like you know this cuz we we've talked about this I I was in in initiated into a a a level of awareness or consciousness that is very similar to many other teachers or masters that have walked the earth but it's not exclusive to them. Many many others have done this but many of them in their time lifetimes were killed too. So, so that kind of got a little bit washed out, but um but it's coming back. And that is that I I teach the what's called the way of the inner child. Okay. It's not the child. It's the way of the inner child. So, the way is still there, the truth again. Okay. And so, what does this have to do with your question? Give me a second because I'm still trying to figure that out, too. Um, but no, just kidding. I really actually do know why it's connected. So my point in all of this is that we there is no such thing as a being or beings that created this earth uh for any purpose uh that might have been designed for their own benefit. Let's call it let's just call it that. Okay. I'm I'm getting into a little bit of the conspiracy stuff that people talk about which we don't typically talk about in on conversations like this but they're out there. they're out there. You have to remember that pure physics tell you tell you that this is physics 101 in in 3D. You can't have okay the kind of the kind of um u dense energy that would be required to create sort of this kind of prison mentality in terms of like maybe not like stuck in a prison but like this craziness that we're that we're experiencing in the world. Why? who who in their right mind would would would do this, right? Um that can't exist, Emilio, in in in the higher levels of consciousness. Why? Because pure physics will tell you that the higher the vibration of a frequency, the the lighter that frequency is, not denser. Okay? So by universal law, even in the 3D world, you can't have a race in the ninth dimension creating something that is so weirdly bizarre like this world for anything other than than something that was intended to expand the consciousness of all of all conscious beings everywhere, which is everything. Okay? And and so I've mentioned this way back a long time ago, but but it's worthy of of explaining this because it's so important for people to try as much as they can to connect the dots because this is a big big sort of crossword puzzle or or or multi-dimensional puzzle or whatever. Everything has a connection. Everything every story out there has a connection to what's happening now. Um the the ninth dimension is that place where where evolved beings ascend to when they are ready to start taking on the let's call it the duties of creating worlds and universes. This is where you start to get the real chance to manifest in a sense create in a sense like what we would call here in 3D God. Okay, this is the first crack that we get in the ninth dimension is to do that. Okay, it is the graduate school of all of the of of all of the levels. Okay. Beyond the 9inth dimension, the 10th, 11th, 12th dimensions that are part of the higher self, they are more focused on taking that that experience and evolving it into what's called the source, which is another level of consciousness above higher self. Okay? I I will leave it at that for now. Okay? But there are levels. They're not hierarchical levels. They are evolutionary levels of consciousness. Okay? And there's a difference because there's no one that is more superior than others in in in in that space. Okay? They may have an evolutionary awareness of of what is but but that doesn't mean that they have a superiority over them in terms of hierarchy. Um so what does this have to do with your question is that in the ninth dimension when you are starting as as an evolved being when you can start to create worlds. Okay, then you are ready to merge into what we would call the higher self and be and not that you're not already immersed in the higher self, but now you get sort of front row tickets to being immersed in the higher self sort of frequencies and focusing on the integration of yourself into source and and so a lot of this sounds like blah blah blah, right? But I'm but but what I'm trying to get at is that that those ninth dimensions like the Arcturans and civilizations like them or beings like them have a deep deep deep uh awareness and connection to to what's going on here because those are divine beings that in a sense have been have been assigned the job of creating worlds games for for the higher self to play in. an experience that are created by the source. Okay? So the source wants the higher self to experience new experiences. So that's not going to tell higher self, hey, I'm going to do it this way. We're going to use your the students of the ninth dimension to create worlds where you higher self through the various aspects of yourself and the I've talked about in the past how we all kind of rise up into individual parts that become the sum um you get to experience all these wild games um that you can can not only experience but but grow and if you grow then we all grow And if we're lucky, we may actually create something brand new and that becomes a new form of consciousness that everybody can take with them and and and play with. But you here's the one condition. You got to make sure that you can manage it at the three-dimensional level because if you can't manage it in the threed dimensional level, you ain't going to take it to the fourth, fifth or sixth or seventh or eighth or ninth because because a lot of screwiness can happen there. Um, so you have to do it here and and so that's why this earth school is so hugely important because even though it's just a tiny little speck in the entire scheme of everything that exists um its ramifications are are huge. Uh what is what is felt or created in this earth school is felt at every level of consciousness at every level. It doesn't matter how small this game may look to to us from a bigger picture of divine of divinity, it's still it's still really huge. And the ninth dimension is where the science and the and the technology, if you want to call it, and the intelligence um come into play. Um and and that is where we get into all these discussions of frequencies and stuff and ancient coding and stuff like that. If you There are some cool places we'll have to talk about sometime that it's just buing with ancient coating coming out of the cliffs of the of the mountains. um god what we would call figures of gods that that literally come to life um when you're in the frequency of of of their frequency in those mountains which I've been fortunate enough to to have had um some experience with and um it's just it it is everything you could possibly imagine that would come out of a fantasy movie in in Hollywood comes to to life here. And so, so that that was that was probably a lot more than you probably even needed to or wanted to know about the ninth dimension, but that's that's probably that's probably, you know, a a good overview.

>> I wouldn't have it any other way. Um, I did want to ask you because, you know, there's a difference between being an initiate of this change, uh, you know, a way shower. A lot of us want to see a new world.

>> Yes.

>> Versus being a participant sort of behind the scenes of it. I wanted to ask you what are the implications of whether someone chooses whether to be an initiate of this new way for humanity of the new world and the new earth versus being a participatory presence in it. And what is the main difference in that?

One is one is here one is here to to evolve into five and 60. Um the other one is here to guide that evolution. Okay. So um the initiate is the one that's here to to guide um that evolution. And that's a lot of the stuff that I've talked about in the past year or two about um the the the timeline that I that I was specifically around this time of the year. Last year, I was talking about 2027 timeline. Well, that that has become much clearer to me in terms of what that means versus the 2020 2032 timeline. But and there is an answer to your question in the 20 let's call it the 2027 timeline that I that I was talking about and uh last year a lot of the in the initiates um will come to know who they are and those that that don't and and come to know who they are and they will be there to help guide humanity through the last few stages of this ascension. cuz there there isn't this isn't going to draw I've been saying this all along. This is not going to draw out 10 20 30 40 50 years. You you already can see how different this 3D world has become in less than a year from the explosion of what AI has done to the grid system and to the psyche, if you will, of the of the individual grid system of the planet. um and we're just barely touching the surface. Okay. The initiate the initiate um will either remember who they are completely um and start to form a pretty good sense of what their purpose here is. They will start to become very mystical in 3D language. Okay. Their clairvoyant abilities will start to come online pretty quickly. um they will and when I mean by clairvoyant a lot of telepathy will will start to come into play. Okay, that's just one of the many things that they'll they'll they'll come online. Um, and they will start I I I feel like I could say this if that you're you're sort of going through that phase right now, okay? That you're starting to really feel into you are something more than what you thought you were. Okay. Um by that time those who don't um come to realize their purpose as initiates many of those may still stick around but there will be many who will leave. Um the 2027 is the year where where um what I thought was a mass ascension process is actually more of more guided to the initiate process where those who have done what they felt like they were supposed to do even if they didn't know what the heck they were doing by just showing up they did some things here to change the crystal the crystallin system of the of the planet um they will leave they will leave it'll be their first real exit out of this game. Okay, they're not here to ascend. The the 2026, next year is going to be when a sizable chunk of people will be remembering that it's time for them to participate in the ascension process. Meaning that they came here to graduate

>> and and they can't graduate. And this is I've been saying this for a while now. can't sit on your Humpty Dumpty there and and let the the things go by. You can't if you are an initiate or if you are a participant, you have you have to participate or be involved in some way because you're not going to get brownie points just for showing up. You're not going to get brownie points for, oh man, I made it through this. I listened and I I you know researched and studied this and I I I I made a conscious decision to become more spiritual. Okay. Yay. Yay. So what are you going to do with it?

>> Okay. Because remember nothing the law of resonance says that that nothing nothing comes to you unless you are already in that state. Already in that state. A lot of people have this this thing that just you know waiting and waiting. We've talked about this waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting. But then you're in a state of waiting. Your resonant frequency is only going to be in a state of waiting. You're never This is law of attraction 101, but I'm telling you, you you have to as a participant. You have to prove to yourself that you are who you are and and wake up out of it and go through somewhat of a simpler cycle of what the initiate does. the initiate goes through a much deeper cycle of of remembrance. Um they they have devoted many years already in advance to trying to remember and being actively involved in trying to remember who they are even if they don't have a clue as to why they were doing it. Um but but in in the in the year or two ahead they will start to remember. And again, if I may use you as an example, you've come you've come a long way um from remembering that I have to I really feel compelled. I don't have to. I feel compelled to be to be part of the process rather than just observing it or reporting on it. And um and that's the difference between an initiate. An initiate will le will rise raise their vibration to levels that are nothing short of mystical. nothing short of mystical. Um, miraculous healings and like I said, telepathy and and all sorts of mystical experiences of of that have to do with the grid system. You name it, it's going to all start to to come together. Sacred geometrical visions and mathematical downloads and all all sorts of things that that will occupy their world to the initiate. with the participant, not as much because they're really just trying to graduate. They they'll do they'll get some of it, but it'll be a it would be enough if they just remember who the hell they were. Okay. Um they're not really they're this is grade school in a sense. This is grade school level level experiencing. Even though it's like the baddest school in the whole multi-dimensional sense, it's still grade school level to the to the beings that are here now initiating themselves to remembering. And that's the key initi. And that's where I was saying that the difference between like what we've been talking about with the inner child and stuff is that we're clearing a simple path to that. You know, that's it's the it's the path that I'll tell you just personally saved my ass. um when I was going through years of of of being lost and being in depression and all sorts of things that only to find out that this was very similar to the initiation process that others have taken um and and they got them through it. Uh both non masters and people that are just you know that we know about. I mean, this is not meant to be rocket science. And if I may may have mentioned this to you, biblically speaking, there is a phrase in uh but you'll see this in in other passages in other philosophies and other religions. Um there's a phrase in in the Bible, and again, I'm not a Bible guy, okay? But I mean, these are good phrases. These are clues, okay? Um, it says the only way to the kingdom of heaven. And I may have told you this one already in the past. Kingdom of heaven referring to consciousness is is through what?

>> The child.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for making it simple because I believe I asked you this question once and you gave me something so deep I literally almost couldn't sleep the next night for two or three nights, you know.

>> So, yeah. I'm curious to know what would you say to those people that are already in that initiatory path and are having huge levels of remembrances. How that might be related to the transition from the two strand DNA to the 24 strand DNA that we briefly touched on uh pre-recording uh that I thought was super super interesting to touch on. So if you I'm going to get to the last piece and then the first piece last and the and the last piece first. Um, so the so we are

>> that just mind blew me what you just said.

>> No no dude I told you I told you that one time you said that answer literally I almost blew off my chair here and and I was almost in a semi-state of coma for about 2 three days because it was like so

>> I'll ask it again. And I'll ask it again. Can can can pure love still exist in stillness?

>> Yeah. And and yes, it can. Anyway, I don't want to change the topic. We're not going to go there because there that one that one literally I I literally I I went like that for a couple days. So, I was like, "All right." So, um, the the the the strand system, and this gets back to what I was I believe I'm not sure if we were saying this before or after this interview, we're we have a gen a genetic a biological machine here. Okay? And I you were asking me what what's going to change over the next couple of years. And again, I keep saying this is coming and it's not and every every day, every week, every month, every year, it's it's becoming more evident that it it is coming. Um, and that is that we will understand at a three-dimensional level how the body functions with just a two two strand system. A two strand system okay which as you probably already know we only use about I believe it's I forget if it's I believe it's like 5% or some some ridiculous amount of of

The two-strand system that we actually use. The rest of it is considered junk DNA. Okay. There's nothing junk about that. That system is filled with codes, filled with a technology, a built-in technology based on the ninth dimension that as frequencies keep rising, those codes will start to activate like popcorn kernels. And those codes will enable the body to do things that it's never been capable of doing before, which is to me, you know, morph itself, uh, if it's physically ill, fix itself, so to speak.

Okay. Um, be beyond the two-strand system when the 24-strand system, which we are now morphing into. And you go, "Well, I don't see any evidence of that." There is actually some science that is starting to indicate that there is an there is something happening with our two-strand system that seems to indicate that something interesting is occurring that might lead to the, uh, morphosis, if you will, or the genetic engineering of of more than two strands. And I'm not going to try to bore people with this, but the, but it shouldn't be boring because when the other 22 strands come online, and they're there already, I have to stress, they're there already. We just can't see them currently in the vibration we are at. But as we get higher, those strands will not only become clear, noticeably clear, but they will start to activate. And when that act, when that activation occurs, the body will become a vessel, a real pure, highly advanced vessel of technology and intelligence that will be able to do things that we have always thought we could only dream about, such as morphing, in growing young, and morphing into, morphing into other bo, into another body. I mean, if you wanted to be a man today and you wanted to be a woman tomorrow, you could be a woman tomorrow. It wouldn't, it would take nothing for the body to morph itself in, into that because it's made up of 50 trillion, um, individual coding systems called cells that enable, enable it to genetically re-code its programming just through consciousness. Okay. But the technology of that comes from the other 22 strands that are still yet to be observed. But that is going to start becoming evident in the coming years. Um, we will start to see signs of that. Not the least of which was that the other 95% of our current DNA system, which is full of stupid coding as well, will also come online. So these things, five years ago, would have sounded like something out of the, you know, some space odyssey movie in the year 2500 AD, but it's not anymore. It's, it's becoming very clear that, um, that we're capable of doing and will be capable of doing things to the, in the human sense and the human body sense, that we weren't able to do before. Um, and that's because of the activation of those ancient codes that are inside our bodies.

"Why have they been dormant for so long?"

Frequency. Frequency. Um, you can't, these, these are codes that are are only ignited by frequency. Okay. Tesla said frequency, vibration, energy. Those are the three things in the universe. Whether you're talking about time space traveling, whether you're talking about astro projecting, whether you're talking about multi-dimensional time traveling with with aliens or whatever, everything has to do with those three things. Okay? We are not at a frequency yet, but we are fast approaching those levels this next year. The 4D levels of consciousness, which are associated with, with the divine. I'm going to go in different places here. Divine feminine frequencies of awareness. Okay? They're not the only frequencies, but those are going to be, those are going to be huge frequencies that will enable us to, to start to, um, to see things that we couldn't see before. Okay.

Frequency, frequency, frequency, frequency, frequency, frequency. Tesla knew this a long time ago. Um, Einstein knew it. All of those guys knew it. And not just frequency, vibration within the frequency and energy and how it, how it plays out when it, when it vibrates in a certain way that you, you see enough of this in other sciences, you know, how vibration can make patterns, crystalline patterns out of sand and and things of that nature. There, there these are vi, these are universal clues that are being left behind to show us how, how frequency, vibration, and and sound, if you will, that comes when the vibration, the frequency, and energy all, all interact with each other. And we're getting there. We're, we're, we're basically there. Okay? And let me, let me rephrase that. We have always been there, Mayo. Okay? We've always been there. But we have finally, as a collective of consciousness, have finally risen in the energy levels of this planet to see and experience what we, what has always been there, but we just weren't able to, to see it, uh, until now.

And when that happens, again, getting back to 2026, okay? When we start to remember and our vibrations start to rise exponentially, it becomes a domino effect. And the domino effect is that when those codes start to activate, you start to remember more. And what you start to remember, Alio, is the plain and simple truth that this has always been an illusion. That this has always been a dream, a dream state, as I, as I wrote in my, in my book. Okay? That you have never, never ever really left. Okay? You've been playing like in some of these sci-fi movies. You've been playing in a, like *Inception*. You've been playing in a, in a m, with a, with a machine or vibrational contraption, a hologram that makes you, makes you believe that you have left and gone to some obscure remote place in, in one universe out of trillions and trillions and trillions of universes, um, to play a game, a game called Earth and Life. And when that happens, it changes everything, the more that you start to remember. See, you don't remember just like going, "Oh man, I had this crazy dream," and or this crazy thing happened to me. It's like, "Damn, why does, why does this feel like, okay, I know it sounds crazy, but why does it feel like I've done this before?" Or why does it feel like, like I know, like this isn't crazy? Why does everything else feel like it's crazy, but I'm not feeling crazy, even though I should, because everybody tells me I should? That's the kind of remembrance where things start to remember. So, like this is what a lot of near-death experience people would tell you is that they remember things not just for the sake of remembering, but they remember them as if it was more clear to them that that was the truth and this was not. They come back saying, "This is not the real deal. Where we were is because this is not the real deal." Okay. This is a game. And in what we are seeing now, with just the primitive strides that we have made in, in, I'm going to keep using AI, in AI, you're starting to see how AI can make things look stupidly real with this intelligence that we're playing with. Now imagine when you take it all the way up to the ninth level, okay? It starts to look like this, where we're actually physically in 3D rather than just 2D. And so, so that's the kind of remembrance that people are going to have starting. They're already having some of it, bits and pieces. I've talked to so many people that are having this that up until a couple years ago would have said, "Man, I can't talk about this with anybody because they'll think I'm nuts." It's depressing. I feel alone. I feel disconnected. But now they still feel a little bit alone and they still feel disconnected, but they're starting to realize, A, this stuff isn't going away. It's actually getting stronger. And B, other people are actually talking about it, too. So, there's got to be something about this that makes sense because it makes sense to me, even though everybody else tells me that it's not. And I don't care what it is. It could be, you know, you're talking to aliens. Okay? You could be talking to aliens because you could have come here specifically, and I've told you about this before, because we've talked about the angelic realm. The angelic realm is a very elite group of of spiritual beings that are tasked to create, to design these worlds. Okay? They give up to the ninth dimensional beings to create them and oversee them. Okay? So that, so that everything goes off without a hitch. Okay? But that, but at that level of ninth dimensional, uh, awareness, um, you, you, the sky's the limit in terms of of what you can, of what you can create. I mean, that's the whole purpose of being an angelic being. And and many, many, many, many, many people, not everybody, not everybody, maybe out of a hundred people that are listening to this show, there probably is one that resonates with that frequency. And I'm not talking about archangels and and the angels with wings and stuff, which, by the way, doesn't really exist. Okay. But they do look pretty cool, at least in drawings. Okay. Um, those, those are the beings that are, those are the beings that are here orchestrating the way that this thing will look. And it's up to the ninth dimensional beings to actually make it happen. So, so those kind of things are the things that I've had countless people over and over and over and over and over again say, "Why is it that you're telling me something that I know?" It's because you are one of the initiators, uh, or initiates. You're one of the initiates. Now, whether or not you choose to do it, I told you about this. Whether or not you choose to get off your butt and do it is entirely up to you. Okay? You don't lose any points. You just go back home, kind of the angelic realm, and and you, you, you get another, you get another assignment, which you're doing a million of these anyway. And, uh, and you go on. But 99 out of 100 of those who are getting the hit, the calling, feeling this resonant energy that we're talking about, and yeah, this sounds like I am an initiate, an initiate. Okay? And that scares a lot of people, too. I, I don't mean to get off on a tangent here, Amelia, but it, it scares a lot of people, too, because when people hear initiate, they start getting into this, someone will get into this crazy idea of cults and things of that nature. This is not a cult, okay? This is your calling, your divine calling. Um, this is what is called an initiate. A, the, at the, at the master level. A master initiate is the highest you can be at this level, where you're here and your calling is to really do something pretty seismic. Um, but you don't have to be a master initiate, but you do have to accept that you are initiate. And it has nothing to do with being an occult. Um, that was a clever way in which the game designed itself so that you would get freaked out any time that you would hear the word initiate and you'd go, "Crap, this person's trying to start a cult." No, the, the only cult there is, is between you and you. That's it. Because you're here to do what you're supposed to do.

"So, that was my social commentary for the day. Thank you very much."

"I've heard you say before that you know and understand how coding works in the stream of words in order to activate people. And I think what you were briefly mentioning there is that when you are saying these, putting these words together, it is an activation."

"Yes. And that's why many people feel the same way like I feel when I listen to you. And I want to go deeper into that concept of how you use these stream of words together to help other people remember because many of us will feel called to do that in our individual life when we are communicating and using our voices, um, as initiators of the change."

"Yeah. And here's the, here's the, here's the irony of all that. And I will answer that question, um, as best as I can. But what the irony is, is that you can't truly and, and, um, and that's beautiful that you feel the calling to do it. Okay. But to be effectively doing it to the point of being able to activate others, kind of the way that you, you, you have said that I've been able to, you know, like with you, I activate you, and I, I get a lot of that from other people, is that you have to come from a place of purity. Um, and I'm not saying like purity like, you know, okay."

"You have to be a virgin to do this."

"Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. That's a guy. That's one of the rule number one. Virginity. You don't have it. Sorry. Um, now listen, we're just joking around here, people. Okay? That's the other thing that we have to, we have to make light of this. Okay? Um, and this actually gets to a little bit of what you're talking about. We have to realize that that spirituality is is meant to be playful. And you were telling me about what you did at, at a retreat that you were at, um, in, in South America, and how you brought the, the frequency of of playfulness into that, into that environment, and how then people responded, uh, for subsequent days with that energy. It changes everything, uh, in, in your own grid system. Your grid system is the, I always like to mix and match a lot of things to help people who are playing around with different frequencies. And because there are many different ways to remember. So for a lot of people who are in the sacred schools, the mystery schools, um, it's, most of them are designed more towards, uh, divine femininity, but, but there's a fair number of them that are also addressing different frequencies like masculinity and stuff. Um, that, that, um, the, the nature of all this is to be, is to keep things simple. Um, there's an, there's an expression here, keep it simple, smarty, or stupid. You know, keep it simple. Keep it simple, keep it playful, okay? You, you got to keep it playful. Here again, don't take my word on it. You know, there was at least one, one teacher, actually Buddha talked about this too, uh, that says, you know, children have a way of, that, that children have a way of translating frequency into something that is playful. Buddha said something to the effect that, that the nature of becoming a master is when we know how to, how to interpret reality as a child, or something like that, something along the lines of that. Okay. If we get overly complicated with this stuff, we are falling into the trap of the game, the game that you designed. Okay. Meaning, if you feel that everything has to be resolved through complicated algorithms or sacred geometrical patterns or sacred astrology or, or what, or whatever, you know, or sacred schools, mystery schools, or rituals. Sure, you'll be able to play with some of that, that energy. Sure, you'll be able to manipulate or change some of those frequencies. Sure, you will understand the science of spells and incantation and sorcery. Okay? Sometimes you get a little bit too crazy with it and you get into black magic. Okay? Got to watch out for that one. Okay? That would be like, that's possible. Okay. Um, so what's beautiful about this game, as you can see, is that it draws from every type of discipline, if you will. Okay. It. I could speak about the language of of the game in different ways. I can call it formulas, or I can call it codes, or I could simply just call it whatever. I can't even speak anymore. Or, or you can, or you can talk about it in spells and in incantations and then sorcery. It's all the same thing. The thing is, is that you must be intentional with what you're doing. That's what I mean by pure. You must be intentional. Okay. If somebody sits there and says, even those the best-natured people saying, um, and I am being a little bit critical about the people that that dissuade others by saying, "I've heard this all before." Okay. You just, you just threw out a massive, massive declaration into the field that keeps your world repeating itself over and over in a, in a, in a cyclical way that almost drives you mad because you will never get out of that. You'll continuously chase your tail. And I talk a lot about this in, in, in my book. Um, you just continuously use your words as sorcery, as a sorcerer would. We don't realize we don't have to have these cool hats and wear these gowns or these robes to be a sorcerer or sorceress. We are our own sorcerer or sorceress. We are our own, uh, mystic. Okay? We got to be careful what comes out of our mouths. And I will tell you that it, it even doesn't even have to come out of our mouths. We have to be careful with what we're actually processing in, in, in, in the form of thoughts and emotions. Um, if you don't do that, and it could be subtle, and I've told you this before, it could be stupidly subtle in terms of some of the playful words that you are using to, to, to, to define your perception of reality. And yet, I tell you, I tell you, 'cause you know, I've told you before, really, man, you got to, you got to cool your jets on some of the words you're using because you love to use a couple certain words, right? You are laying out a system of codes that tells the, this tells the field, "Oh, I guess he or she wants to keep doing it this way." Um, that's how incredibly powerful. We feel like we have to raise our frequency to become mystics. No, we're, we are mystics. We're just using an antiquated language system that keeps us stuck in this 3D loop because that's the way that we chose to come into this game, is to not remember that we have a highly advanced awareness that allows us to get beyond the three-dimensional descriptions of this reality. We, we, we get out of the out of the process of analyzing this reality and, and move into more experiential awareness of this reality. And that's where we get to be intentional mystics. Um, otherwise, we are just literally playing the same song over and over and over and over again. Um, and we don't even know it. We're really like, we're like that movie where, where the person is so powerful and they can't, and you keep telling them, "You are so, you're a god," and they won't buy it. They won't buy it, no matter how much you're selling it for cheap or for free. Um, but this is what people are going to start to remember in, in 2026. That remembrance is going to be so pronounced. Why? Because, because the things that they are not, like the things that are happening in the three-dimensional world, on the level, on the surface level, is starting to shove it down their throats. Okay? They're starting to see that, you know, I told you that this year was the, the year of the reveal, and that things were going to get really dicey towards the end of this year. Okay? And I'm talking about 3D dicey, okay? Like, you know, where you look out and you see a really effed-up world right now, where, where both the masculine and feminine are running cuckoo right now. Okay? And I'm going to stress that the masculine and feminine are running cuckoo right now. Okay? Um, but because of the introduction of the feminine energies in the last couple of years, and the massive infusion that's going to come in 2027, um, that's going to change. But right now, you're starting to see the revealing of what it really, what who are the true Illuminati that people were always afraid of, were kind of dictating the world. It wasn't some group of mystical beings that were torturing us in our own prison. It was a bunch of billionaire people that are trying to keep control of what's left of the power structure of this game on the 3D level. Okay? And so you're seeing that distortion revealing itself now. And, and so, and many other distortions of, of that have to do with that, those frequencies that are rising to the surface. Nothing is being held back now. And it doesn't taste or look good to us. And if nothing else, that's going to be shoved down our throats or hit between the eyes, and it's going to cause us, like in psychology, there's a method, I don't know if they still use it, but they shock you into remembering. That is what we're going through right now. Every single pattern, each one of these things that I talk about, 2024 was the, was the reboot year. 2025 is the reveal. 2026 is the remembering. These are tethers. These are very sophisticated tethers that were put together that will pop at the end of each year. And each time one pops, and there's nine of them, we're getting closer and closer and closer to the end. And they're basically popping on an annual basis towards the end of the year, around the solstice period, which this year is not going to be any different. When it pops at this point, at the end of this year, things are going to get super nutty going into 2026, when we start to remember, when others start to remember. So, I'm trying to connect the dots as much as I can so that you can kind of see how it all comes together. And this is all part of your answer about the, about the language. Um, when we start to remember, we start to remember that there's an entirely different language that we have to speak, but we have to speak it as if we're God. Um, and if we can't accept that, then there's a little bit of remembering you're going to have to go through. Um, because, because that's what people realize when they die, is that they're basically God. So, if you can't speak it from that perspective, if you can't, because you're just, just can't drum up the idea that you could actually be a god or God, then it's, it's not going to land. It's not going to land. And the reason it's not going to land is because I've said this before many times. If you don't recognize who you are, if you cannot recognize who you are, then how in the hell is the field going to acknowledge who you are? The field will only, the field will only acknowledge you when you acknowledge yourself. And until then, you'll just be whistling Dixie, you know. I don't know what Dixie really is, but, you know.

"So, how, how are we connected innately to this field?"

"Um, the field is in everything, and we're in everything. So there's no, there's this sense that the field is everywhere but not necessarily here, um, or that somehow it's something out there. But there isn't. There's everything's connected. Everything. And, and you, you've heard, there's, I'm not the first to say that. I'm not the first to say it. But by goodness gracious, right? I'm trying to keep my, my language to PG or G. Okay? You got to, this makes sense, people. The field is everywhere. And if it's everywhere, and it's, then which means that it's in us and around us and through us, then we are a node in the field. We are a node. We are a, a, a signal, a beacon, something that transmits and, and receives. There's no differentiation between us. Um, and this isn't just between me and the source or the higher self. It's me and you. It's you and other, somebody else. It's why, it's why you say, "Oh, man. There's this really cool song that I wanted to put on my playlist." And then the next morning, you're at the gym and that song appears on your play, or not on your playlist, but appears out of nowhere because it isn't a song that you would hear on your, you know, America's Top 10 or anything."

"This is a true story, by the way. This is something that happened to me at a Dr. Joe Dispenza retreat."

"Yeah. Well, I didn't want to go. I, you know, I wouldn't, I just was kind of keeping it on the up and up. You know, I figured if you wanted to share that. But yeah, that's how you do it because you're always connected to the field. Always. Always. But, but the bottom line, but the bottom line is that, is that the field will not recognize you if you don't recognize yourself. So, I'm sorry, you were saying something."

"Yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say. Like, you did say that there are moments when the field recognizes you more than other times."

"Yes."

"And what is that dependent on?"

"Well, most people's, in most instances, people tend to tend to do this when they're in a state of distress. Uh, and what I mean by that is, um, this is where you start to dabble with miracles. Okay? This is where you go deep into yourself and you, in a moment, and, and this has happened so many times. I've been very fortunate with all the people that I have met and have have taught and stuff to see them doing this in real time or have had them do it in the past. Um, when you're in distress, you automatically, you don't just get into a fight or flight mentality. That is not the only option you have. Okay? Um, if you have any innate programming in you that's active. All right? In other words, if you came into this game with some coding already active for you to do this, because this was one of the ways that you were going to remember who you are. Okay? Then there is something besides fight or flight. Okay? And that is this awareness that you step into that recognizes that you have the ability, as the one who created this game, to change the programming in real time. But to do that, you have to go deep within yourself. And this is why I say that a lot of people do this in moments of distress where they have no other choice because they're really feeling like everything's collapsing in front of them. Often times, this is like when people are dealing with life and death matters where, where they've been, when they've been basically, um, told that they have only a few days to live or something like that, or a diagnosis of of some kind of cancer is, you know, they're going to, they're testing for that, and you've got 48 hours before the, before the results come back to change your reality. And I have actually been involved in those scenarios, not myself personally, but in guiding students through those. And bam, they come back, results, bam, are gone. There's nothing there. Or, or the, or the parent that saves their kid from lifting the car up because they're trapped under the car and they don't know how they did it. And science will say it's a big huge adrenaline rush. Yeah. Right. Okay. Okay. It's you have been able to dig deep inside of you, and something innately tells you that you can make one commandment, commandment, not request. Okay? And that is to scream out deep from in within yourself the magic word, and that is, "No." No. Okay. As if you are telling the whole entire field. Okay. I don't care for this narrative anymore. Change it now. And this was, and I talk about this in the, in the book, because this is how my son was running across the the street. It wasn't a street. It was kind of a road that all airports have when all this traffic is kind of going through and sifting through and, and cars are, you know, coming out of there at 35, 40 miles per hour. And he's bolting out. He's two years old. He bolts out into the street. He's got seconds to live because there's an onrush of cars that are just going to trample him. And, and I dug deep inside and I screamed the magic words. And I screamed them, "No." And I instinctively knew that something had happened. I didn't have to know. Everything shut down. I talk about it in the book. Everything, the noise shut down, the airplane shut down, the, the traffic shut down, air stopped, everything stopped. The game literally stops because it recognizes that commandment, but it's got to come from a real deep place. And you got to really, really command it, not tell it, "Please, no. Please, no." Okay? Because "please, no" means that you're basically saying, "Please, pretty, please." Which you're going on top. I'm just putting a lot of emphasis on the, on the please. No, you have to scream at it as if innately you know that you can change it by that one commandment.

"What about when we say yes from that place?"

"You could do it too. That yes is good. But you got to really come from the place where you are really liking it. Like you are, like you are God and you're really pleased with that outcome. No. Yes. Yeah. Okay. That's called desire. Okay. You're desiring something to happen again. Okay. Okay. It's that, that's easy. I mean, it's easy to say it. A lot of people are sitting there probably listening to this and going, "Okay." But see, if you're doing that, you're already diluting the power that you just gave yourself. Not that you gave yourself, the power that you already, that you've always had. You tasted it and then you let it slip away. You know, it's kind of like that movie saying, "You had love in your hands and you let it slip away." I'm not sure where that's from, but it, I remember that from somewhere. So in this case, you had this taste of what you are as a divine being. You told the field, "No, not no. Please no. Please, please, no. I'm begging you." No. But no. No. I don't desire this. Change it now. Now. And like I said, in the case of my son, I had to change it. I had to change it because I had three seconds to save his life."

"Self."

"Yeah. And if humanity on a collective level is commanding no around the agendas that we're seeing, the, the past paradigms, will we see an instantaneous Mandela effect?"

"Yes."

"In that sense."

"Yes. Yes. And it will be at different levels. It'll be at the level of, of your light, daily life, where you start to see, uh, and feel a, a connection with a, with the field around you that you didn't have before. And you'll see it in, in results that come broadly, um, broadly, broadly, broadly, in terms of the events around, around the world. There's an expression, and you know this because you've done some of this with your own stuff. Um, again, it's a kind of a biblical expression. So, I'm going to kind of take some of this piece, pieces out. When two or more are gathered, there shall I be. Okay. Okay. Now, the biblical way of saying it, "When two or more are gathered in my name, there shall I be," or something like that. Okay. But I took out "in my name." Okay. And just said, "When two or more are gathered, there shall I be." There shall I be the being of the I. There is, there is where I be, as I become consciously aware of myself as divine, as God, is right in the words. It's, it's, it's, it's literally shouting out, but we don't see it."

"And, and that's why people come together in more in groups of more than two, two or more, um, but they do it in a different fashion. And if it's in a religious way, then, you know, it still helps. It still works in some cases. Uh, but it's not as powerful as if, as if groups of people came together knowing that they are initiates. Knowing that they are lightbearers, because the vast majority of the people that are listening to this program are lightbearers, are initiates. They just don't know it. But only a few of them will actually hear it enough for them to at least remember something that's being said in this conversation to act upon it. Okay? At least for now. But the others may be seated for later on down the road, or they may not remember at all. It's entirely, it's entirely how the game plays out. Okay. But, but, um, but that, that coding is there. And, and that's why we talk like this. That's why we're talking like that. That's why you ask your questions the way you ask, and that's why I respond the way that I respond, is because we know in some way that we're not even quite aware of that we're activating people, um, and, and they're feeling a calling, a drawing. They get drawn to you. They get drawn to me. They get drawn to something, but they get drawn and they remember just enough to do something about it. But the thing is, this is going to happen more often. And this is crunch time. And this is when there is, I mean, this is it. I mean, do I have to spell it out? Look at what's happening in the 3D world. Okay. Everything is hemorrhaging out because all of this energy is pushing all of that out. Okay. And so this is like, all right, performance has been going on here. Initiates, stage left. Get in there and start and start doing your thing. Start becoming that which you already are. Um, we're not here to die. I've told you this many times. We're not here to die to remember this. That's too easy. And besides, if you do die, then you're out of the game. And so you don't get to come back. Okay? Um, not, not anymore because this is it. Where a lot of people who are feeling the calling can say that somewhere in their life, they have always been drawn to the idea that they are, that there's a home. They don't know what it is. They're not sure why. They know this place called home, but they also know deep down inside that they're here not just to fulfill a purpose, but that they're only here one last time. There are a lot of people that say, "I know, I've known this all my life that this is the last time I'm here." And the reason is because this is it. There is no more after this. There is no more after this. Not in 3D. There's 4D, 5D, and beyond, but not this.

One of the last things I would love to explore with you for a minute is you've spoken about these tethers that connect 3D to 5D together and how every year at certain moments in time and in linear time, like the solstice, for example.

"These tethers start disconnecting more and more."

"And, and when they finally snap, I wanted to ask you, what happens to our memory, our identity, our ego? Uh, Joe Dispenza calls it the character in the, in the virtual reality game. Um, but even..."

"Yeah, even going more into that, because there is a specific question there. You brought up the solstice tether that will be snapped."

"Yes."

"What can we expect when that comes? The ramifications of that?"

"So, um, there are, there are likely a lot of smaller tethers, but, but there are nine that are massive tethers. They're holding the third and the fifth dimensional worlds together. Okay? And they're, and they're holding them through these sort of portal frequency portal arrangements that are held primarily through fourth-dimensional frequencies of awareness. Okay. So, so you can imagine that the more you remember, the more you're climbing through these portals, um, out of these tethers into 5D. When the last one snaps, um, which would be in, in 2032, then you will get what most people are describing as the three days of darkness. Okay? There are so many people that are saying that the three days of darkness are tomorrow, the next day, or the next day. That may be somewhat true to the individual who is ascending at a much faster rate than the group. They will see their own tethers breaking off of the game and they might very well see flashes. Okay. Um, but the grander one, the big one that everybody talks about is the last tether. And, and the last tether is equivalent to when you split two atoms, like with physics and the atomic and hydrogen bombs and stuff. When you split them, and these, I believe I've talked about this before, but those are at the end of the periodic table of elements. When you split them, they create a, a massive explosion of of energy that is that is viewed very simply as a flash of light. Okay? And what it does, it's kind of like somebody, it's like a Polaroid, if people are old enough to know this, but like a Polaroid, maybe like, I know that there are still some cameras out there, and you take the flash, and if it blinds you for a moment, just for a moment, and then without even knowing explanation, you, you sort of wake up into a reality that linearly speaking would be equivalent to have been gone for three, three, um, and that would typically mean that you come back, and this reality is not the same anymore. You've ascended into 5D. Okay? And so you kind of checked out of this reality. Um, that will happen in mass at the end of that tether period. But it will be, as each tether pops, there could be individuals or small groups of people that will see those kind of flashes and, and ascend out of here. This kind of stuff will start to become very, very clear as, as from this point forward now that that will happen. Um, as far as what happens as you're evolving from an energetic standpoint is that the more you raise your consciousness, the more you start disconnecting not just with the world around you, but with the individual consciousness or program that governed who you were in this reality. You will start to forget things that other people will say to you. "Yeah, you did this, you went there, you like this, you like." And you're sitting there and going, "I don't, what?" And you don't remember. You clearly don't remember. And a lot of people back in the day, even now, would say, "Oh, you know, you might want to get that cognition checked out." Okay? No, because this is happening with everybody. When you start to dis, disconnect from people, it's because your frequencies, just like the planets are are splitting, you're splitting in your own tether way to the consciousness that remembers itself to be the body that you are. You are not the body. The body is attached to you in a consciousness way, and is, and it is in it of itself a stream of consciousness that knows itself to be the body, but you're disconnecting. Like you might be a little bit, uh, younger on this thing, but there used to be a, a scene when a, when a spaceship, a rocket would shoot out of the stratosphere, the last, that, that piece that got them to that higher level of the stratosphere disengages, and then it just floats away. And you see it in the, in the, in the video, you see it floating back to Earth, and probably into the ocean. You start to disengage with your body. You start to have memory lapses. And, and what I would tell you is, don't freak out. Memory lapses are going to become a, a big part of the process of forgetting the storyline narratives and in the lie of that you're going to start to remember the narrative of who you are. And so it's not like you just fall into this void and you go, you know, okay. No, you, you, that gets replaced with what, what you remember. And what you start to remember, again, you know, I can't stress it enough, is that the people, places, and things that you always loved near and dear, they were always close to you, or not. They're just, they're just a hologram. They're just a hologram. And, and, and with that becomes the, the, the remembrance that you have the capability with your clairvoyant, we'll call them clairvoyant skills, to change your reality like a mystic would do. It becomes very mystical, you know.

"So, um, I, I'll tell you just one real quick story. I know you know it, but just for the people that that may, that probably have never heard it, because I've never shared it, but, uh, since it is my last interview, I, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, hiking, um, uh, in an area that many people hike. And the cliffs weren't that big, but they were still big enough. Um, probably 30, 40 feet tall. And, you know, you slip and you fall, and well, you could pretty much kiss it goodbye. Um, but, um, but I, in this particular day, I, I happened to be going down one of these trails and I rolled my ankle, and next thing I know, I'm hanging on to these little tiny branches at the edge of the cliff. And it was an easily, easily a good 35 feet down, which to put in perspective, it's like falling off of a four-story building. Okay. And apparently, from what I was told, um, I levitated when, before I hit the ground. Um, I had put on some, I have, I have tattoos on my back, and there are wings, and I had to put those on before I went on this trip. And I, I believe I showed you, if I haven't, the, the blood that came out of those wings a week and a half, two weeks later, when I was finishing up my tattoo. But there were no signs of bruises. There was no signs of broken bones. There was no signs of anything. And I should have been, at the very least, really hospitalized. But instead, people say that just about 40 feet before I landed, I levitated. You know, take it for what it's worth, people. I'm just telling you the story. But that's how mystical your life starts to get because you start to defy the nature of science as we know it in 3D. And that's a moment where, in some indirect way, I said, "No, I must have," because it broke my, um, instead of breaking my back. So, so that's how that's, that's what I mean by how crazy that remembrance starts to get. And you'll just start to do things that you naturally wouldn't even know how to do, and you just do them. Whether it's vibrational thought, or whether it's words that you're speaking, doesn't really matter. I mean, I'm sure that when I was falling, um, I was probably feeling into something. I was going, "Nah, no." And, and, um, and yeah, and people were like, "Shit, man. You just fell from way up there." And I, I thought I fell like five feet. I really thought I fell like five feet. Um, and they're like, "Look, you, you fell from way up there and then you levitated." And I'm going, "Okay."

"Take it."

"Yeah. Take it for what it's worth, people. But that's how magical it gets."

"Yeah. Thank you for sharing that story. I had heard it before, but, you know, every time you tell it, it's a different way. Um, given that this is your last interview, uh, I wanted to give you the space to tell everyone here listening where they can still connect with you, um, in other ways. Maybe not in, in the interview way, but where other people can, where people can, uh, connect with you in, in different ways. Where would you send people for that?"

"Well, I appreciate you bringing that up. Um, I, I still have, uh, I still have the initiate program or courses that I teach for the, for the child, the Way of the Child. And it is meant to guide people to become master initiates, to, to become, if you will, and I mean this in a very humbling way, to become aware at the level which I, I am, because that's what's in that program is exactly what I went through. Um, and so I still have that, uh, and there are a number of other courses that I'm adding to it, and, and labs and stuff so that people can really master their trait. Um, and so I would love to see people come over there and check it out and hear the stories of, not my story, but hear the story of all the people who have gone through the program and how it has changed them. And that, and for that, they can either go to, um, I am my me. So it's a, I am, as in Mary, I am meme.com, or they can go playground.com/quest. Okay. And they could go either one. And if you..."

"We're, we're going to link everything regardless."

"Cool. And, and, and so what, what they they could do there is, is, is see and ideally feel into whether or not they want to become a master initiate in, in this, in this area. I mean, it's a very beautiful and playful, yet extraordinarily mystical area of consciousness. Um, and it's, and, and if not, then at least they can continue to follow a lot of what I'm doing with my project, which is to expand global consciousness, um, in a very rapid way, uh, with AI, and, and that will, and that will be something that I will be letting people sort of follow the, the quest that."

I'm going to be experiencing over the course of the next six to nine months before that comes out sometime next next summer. Beautiful. And as you know, we end every episode with a segment called the final trio. >> Personalized questions to the guests. The first one I have for you is, what mystery or riddle have you stopped trying to solve? Wow. blah blah blah blah blah blah. Can we go to the second one? You stumped me. I mean, there's so much there on that first one. Um, because I I feel I'll answer it this way if you don't mind me kind of beating it a little bit around the bush. Um, since I was very little, um, with the stuff that happened with my near-death experience, with the stuff that happened in the hauntings of living in a very paranormal house. I mean, really paranormal. Um, I've often wondered, um, what if this were if this was truly the nature of of of my of all reality. So, I lived a good chunk of my of my childhood life just assuming that everybody went through this kind of stuff. Um, and and when I did, when I realized that it wasn't the case, then I started asking the question, what's the nature of reality? And and I stopped searching for it when I realized I had never forgotten. Um, I really never did. It it was always in me and but I was always afraid to say it, you know, which is everything that I've been talking about now, you know, so I stopped searching for answers in terms of that the nature of reality, um, and when I and and and in part when I did that, I I stopped searching for the nature of my purpose here and for the nature of my relationship with the divine and all sorts of other questions that we have since the beginning of time, probably and certainly in the beginning of our lives, we have been left wondering about because things just haven't made sense to many of us, even if they've made sense to most of us for a good chunk of our lives, they have they hit a point where they just realize now there's got to be more to this. So, I I so, um, so the the what I call these are called the fundamental principle or questions of of of life or reality or of the game. I I stopped I stopped asking them when I realized said I had the answers all along. I was just too afraid to to bring them out. And we all have those answers. Well, if I may, like that we are God. Well, if you you're looking for your relationship with God and you're staring at God in the mirror, it changes things a lot. And so, yeah, it's kind of a domino effect of a number of things that I've stopped pursuing. >> Beautiful. Powerful. Before you incarnated into this physical realm, what instructions did the angelic realm give you that still reflect the work that you're doing today? Um, that and this one is actually a bit, I may I may or may not get emotional about this, but, uh, but, um, what I came to realize and through that very question about instructions was that, um, we we have no earthly idea how much love went into creating this game for you. Um, the love that everybody had to have in order to play the roles that they played in your life, and many of them were not pleasant. The love that came into play with all of the hardship and the fear and the hatred and and let's call it evil out there. This the love that was involved in putting this together for you is is indescribable. And you say, "Well, wait, wait, wait, wait. What do you mean? I mean, why would there why would they create out of love all this stuff?" We we don't understand that to play in this game, if they're just participating in your game, these divine beings had to really, yeah, that they wanted to be part of this because it's a hell of an experience. But they had to really love you to play the villain in in your game, to to suffer for you to remember that this must not be the end all be all of your game. So much love is involved in putting together a game like this. It's it is when you taste it, and I've been fortunate enough to have tasted it in my near-death experience and in subsequent experiences of channeling, it's like take a little little speckle of sand, how tiny it is, and you put it on the tip of your tongue. It it blows up your tongue with such enormity of love. It makes you literally fall on your knees and cry because of how beautiful the love was that came into play to make this possible for you to play the game of remembering who you are. Um, and that was something that it was told to me early on to never forget that. Um, no matter how the circumstances might be, no, in my life and in other people's lives, and it can be pretty bad, never forget the enormity of the love that came into play in order to create this game just so that you could play the game of forgetfulness and remembrance. So, that was it. And through the last few years, you've shared many spiritual teachings and mystical messages, um, online, through interviews, through podcasts. If this was truly your last one, what is one thing that you would like to tell your future self, the one that will be looking back at this experience and you know you sharing these crazy messages, uh, to people and to the public, and what would you like to tell your future self right now? >> What I would like to tell my future self or my future self tell me >> what would you like to tell your future self? Because I know you're going to watch this back in another moment. >> Oh, I see. I see. Okay. I I I I get you. U funny enough. Um, cuz I I've actually have experienced this, um, in some ways already. Um, okay. Um, I'm not sure if you can delete this piece out, so I'm just going to try to PG it. Um, I would I would I would say, what took you effing long? What took you effing long? It's about time that it it that that to see how simple this was. It was really simple. If you had just given yourself a chance to get out of your own way, you did it. And you did something that very few have ever done in the course of this Earth school, but you did it so hard. You didn't have to do it that way. It was never never meant for you to do it that way. But you're here, so welcome back. You know, but, but you, but my my god, you you didn't have to do it this hard. Um, and and that would be in a sense what my message has always been to people. Um, the initiation process, Emma Mila, if I may kind of dig dig dig dig dig digress a little bit, it's a beautiful process of remembering, but it also to remember your divinity is something that we fight it all the way to the end. And it takes a lot of energy to help you remember that you are who you are. Um, and oftentimes that translates into literally getting, um, yourself in situations where you are, uh, physically drained and and other things. Um, it never it never had to be that way. It still doesn't have to be that way, but you did it. Yay. You did it. But you didn't have to do it this hard. Um, and and so, so that's what I I would I would say to my future self. Um, and then I would say, now that you know, let's go. >> Let's go. Let's go. >> Yeah, that's what I would say. >> This is actually our sixth conversation, uh, in this format. Probably like >> 15th in the span of, you know, the the the moments we've shared together. >> Yeah. But I can truly say that you've helped me see an aspect of myself that no one else has allowed me to see. And every time I'm with you, I remember that essence, that thread of who I am. And it's been my biggest honor holding space for you. I know this isn't the end of our collaborations together. I know I will convince Franco to come back on the show. And for those that want that, let's go in the comments. >> Let's go and come back. >> Um, but I just wanted to just acknowledge you for the greatness that you embody. Uh, for the wisdom that you hold, for the codes that you hold for the future generations to come. Um, and I'm just super super happy for you and the next chapter that you're building. And always in whatever way I can serve you and support you, uh, myself and this whole community is here with you. So, thank you so much. >> Thank you. Thank you. It's been, uh, it it's, um, I'm very touched by that. You and I have developed a wonderful friendship and, um, and it's, um, as I told you before we got before we got on, it it's just the beginning of of other things that we will we will be doing, um, but it touches me to know that I I had that kind of input or impact on on you and and for those who have listened to you religiously over the years. So, so thank you for having me on and, uh, and, uh, I'll I'll I I'll kind of say it this way. I I'll I'll never forget the experience in the event that it is my last time. Um, but I know that there will be other ways that we will be communicating with each other in in in the future. >> 100% 100%. >> Okay, >> let's go. Let's go. >> Let's go. Come on now. Let's go. Heat. Hey, Heat.