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Good afternoon. Thank you very much for joining the program. Uh, 4chan Chuds, I love the word "chud." 4chan Chuds used AI to clothe her. She fought back. Now, this isn't the individual picture that they used. This is similar to the picture that they're using, or what they're doing to the women is: these women that have the tattoos and the piercings and that are just hot messes, or the women that are posting the thirst traps of themselves without clothing. Guys have taken it upon themselves to start fixing the photos and saying, "Yes, but look how much prettier, or look how much better a life you'd have, or look at how much more attractive you'd be to men if you didn't look like a freaking hot mess." And the women are very mad about it. They do not like it because it judges them, and I think correctly judges them, as the hot messes that they are. But it does judge them. And I think there's part of women also that look at this and maybe have some regret and maybe wish they went a different direction. Not all of them, of course, but definitely some of them.
Now, this is the screenshot in question here. And, uh, this was in the early days of AI. So, this was a couple years ago, but this topic has been coming up again in relevance. And the woman on the left, it shows her in a, you know, in a bikini and a see-through top, and she's got a bottle of whiskey and she's taking a sip of it. And these creators went out and said, "Yes, but look how much happier you'd be if you looked like a normal woman with kids around and being a mom, and how much more wholesome this is." And that really offended the women, the feminists, the, I don't know, the content creators that want to put themselves up in thirst traps. But a lot of the guys said, "Okay, I get the idea now." Now, yes, the woman on the right in this picture looks a little wonky. Her head looks a little too big because they only edited down the body. And the woman on the left is kind of a big girl, and the woman on the right looks like she's 98 lbs. But the point still stands that guys are saying, "We're tired of this." And this comes from Rolling Stone from February of just a couple years ago. But now it is becoming a bigger deal because AI is getting better, and more and more men are doing this, saying, "You know, you'd be real pretty, but wouldn't you look better like this?" And they're taking an Only Fools content creator, showing her starfish off and dropping her in a sundress without all her tamage and putting her in a pretty location. And everybody's kind of like, "Yeah, actually that does look better. I do like the woman that is more reserved and more demure than whatever this is, the hot mess promoting Only Fools." So, these 4chan guys started a thread, and they called it "dignifi AI," dignify but spelled "dignifi," and they put a campaign to put clothes on the thirsty women, thirst trap women. It's just another way trolls are using AI to humiliate women.
Now, understand their phrasing there. Women are putting themselves out there with not many clothes and in compromising positions, and men are saying, "No, thank you," and putting clothes on them. And these women are accusing the men of humiliating the women when the truth is, the women are humiliating themselves, and men are just tired of seeing it. Because if you think about it, you can go online and type any description of any woman doing just about anything and turn off safe search, and there it is for you. But to find an attractive woman that carries herself well, that looks like she's kind of the girl next door that you is hot and you'd like to marry and be with, that's actually challenging to find. Most of the women that are, you know, even dressed and doing something that is relatively conservative, they're still in skintight yoga pants and tiny tops. And it does get kind of tiring.
Well, anyway, this content creator, this spicy content creator with a large following on the internet, Isla David, has dealt with trolls before. Usually, her work combating online bad actors involve her trying to take down photos of herself that have been posted elsewhere without her permission. But she's also used to trolls editing her image without her consent. "They're either subtracting clothes, editing my waist, editing the size of my chest and my hips," she tells Rolling Stone, "just generally treating me like human Play-Doh for them to mash around."
Well, if you're putting yourself out there for the male gaze and men decide you're not quite right for them, so they decide to have fun with it and change how you appear, who's really the bad person here? Guys deciding to mess with your pictures a little bit, or you dropping the spicy pictures out there to begin with to try to get money? I would point the finger at you being the problem of society, if we're to be honest.
The photo had been manipulated with AI to make her look like some strange parody of a woman. Her waist and thighs had been edited to look smaller, but her head was left the same size. What's more, the person who edited had clothed her in a demure white A-line dress and surrounded her with three adorable children, all of the same approximate stature and wearing similar beautific garments.
Anyway, Ian Miles Chong had tweeted it with a caption, "When given pictures of thirst traps, AI images, what could have been if they'd been raised by strong fathers," a post that had racked up 7 million views.
Yes. Because given the choice between, "Hey, guys, which of these women would you like to take out?" I don't know. I don't know many men that would say the one on the left. I think most guys would say the one on the right. Even if you're a guy that likes tattoos. I have tattoos. I've got a sleeve of tattoos. It's probably about as big as like, because it covers my right shoulder, my right chest, my right back, down my arm. I have a huge tattoo. Do I care if women like it? No. Would I want to see it on a woman? No. They're there. Men are, it's kind of like to me at least, I always think of it like pinstriping a car or painting graffiti on a wall. Guys, we're, we are guys. We're utilitarian. We're not meant to be pretty. We're not meant to be beautiful. We're meant to be industrial and rugged and tough, and yes. So, tattoos are different to me. I just look at it. It's like a four-wheel drive Jeep that on the back of it has stickers of all the mountain ranges it's been over and all the mud climbs it's been on. You look at that Jeep, it's all muddy. It's all industrial. Big wheels, big engine, big lift kit on it. I look at that and I go, "Wow, that's, that's, that's, that's pretty badass." Then you look at a woman. Women are supposed to be like pretty, I don't know, Ferraris. A woman's supposed to be like a Ferrari. No bumper stickers, no monster jack lift kits, just beautiful, smooth, beautiful paint job. That's kind of how we want to see women. I think most men do. When you see this, yes, men would say, "AI, fix her to look normal." And then when they do and you look at the pretty woman on the right side, you say, "Yeah, I like this better. That's the girl I'd like to introduce to my mom. That's the girl I'd like to date. That's the girl I'd like to see son's clothing." Not whatever this hot mess is on the left.
The same thing applies to this photo. Now, I know again, unfortunately, for those on YouTube, I can't show you the one side. I don't think YouTube will get away with it. However, I'm going to full screen this or bring this up to a bigger screen so you guys can see it at home. And for those of you on YouTube, you just really need to get off YouTube and go over to Rumble and other things so you can see this stuff. But look at the, if you look at this, the woman behind me here, right? She's got kids. Yes, they made her a little too skinny, and they left her head the same size so it looks a little too big for her body, and she's got extra fingers because this is AI from a whole year and a half ago. But the point is, when you look at this and you say, "Would I rather have just a, like, a healthy weight type woman and have her give me, like, be a stay-at-home mom and have her give me three wonderful children and it's kind of wholesome and it's lovely, or, you know, do I want the girl on the right to go sip whiskey with and have a couple of weekends of fun with and then move on with my life?"
Now, if you're a young single man who rightly is afraid of marriage and are afraid to get taken through the courts, you might very much look at the woman, the one, the "thick thighs save lives" portrait of her, and say, "I would much rather spend a couple of weekends with her and then never see her again." I do understand that. I do understand that sentiment. But as a guy that if you were to be the mindset of which would you rather marry, the one that would be demure and give you children and stay with you and be a stay-at-home mom and love you and care about you, or would you rather be with a decidedly thick woman who likes to sit around in see-through clothing and sip on whiskey all day, but she's going to give you the kids and she's with her body count and her enjoying of alcohol and partying and all that. I think most guys would shy away from it. It really depends on where you are in your life. That if you're a young man who's just out to sow some seeds and have some fun, one woman is definitely your type. But for the guy that's ready to settle down and he's been there, done that, and he'd like a good woman, I think he'd much rather just have, you know, an average looking woman who would love him and take care of him and give him good children and not dump him and not leave him and not mess with him. And I think that's kind of where that is.
So, granted, AI could do much better with this photo today, but what's so surprising about this is that women are offended that men want them to stop being terrible. That they're offended that men say, "Would you, would you please stop being this type of woman, this easy, show everything, do everything type of woman." Yeah, it's fine for getting a bunch of young men thirst trapping on you, but it's not what we want to date. It's not what we want to marry. And I don't think they understand that.
They go on to say, "At first, Isla was amused, but the amusement turned to overwhelming sense of horror. Yes, horror. Particularly when she saw the replies to Chong's tweet. The implication of many of the replies is that I'm something other than a whole person." She said, "that I'm some broken creature and that if I would just put on a long dress and have babies, all would be resolved." And I take umbrage with that because my value has nothing to do with the images I choose to put online. "The manipulated image," she said, "was an attempt to violate me and my bodily autonomy. Regardless of whether you're adding or removing clothing."
No, I think that's not why it bothered her. Why it bothered her is it made her reflect upon her own choices in life. I don't know how old she is. In this story, her portrait up here makes her look like she's probably young 30s, maybe middle 30s, and she's decided to be a content creator where she shows her starfish for money. I think there's part of her that realizes she could have been the other woman at one point in time where she had a loving family, loving children, and a wife that cared about her and would have given her a family. I think there's a the reason why this breaks her and makes her so unhappy. I think she realizes she may have made a mistake. Now, it may not be in the forefront of her brain, but it's probably somewhere back in her lizard brain.
The photo was part of a larger campaign spearheaded by 4chan trolls. They, so they keep calling them trolls, but I don't think they're trolling. I think they're genuinely trying to say, "Look how much more attractive these women are and how much more desirable these women are if they were dressed well." She's not an unattractive woman. I mean, you look up here in her face, she is a beautiful woman. And me personally, I have nothing against this photo of her on the left. I mean, yes, she is quite a thick thighs type of gal. I don't find that offensively overweight, but what these guys are just, they're not trolls. I think they're just trying to say, "We're just tired. We're just really tired of women. We want women to be modest again." They really do.
Anyway, the "dignify AI" that these guys used, and the forum in the forum poll, summarizes the mission thusly: "We're putting clothes on degenerate women for fun. Come join." The goal is for people to see that degenerate lifestyle is ultimately fruitless. The thread also includes links to specific tutorials for people to use the program Stable Diffusion for this purpose, as well as instructions to include the name of the woman in the post so an can at them, making it clear that the goal of the campaign is targeted humiliation.
I disagree. I think it is targeted. I think it is a targeted campaign to show these women what they're doing to themselves and that it's not too late. I mean, mentally, in many ways, it's too late, but that these men don't want this anymore. That young men are tired of easy, dirty women. They're just tired of it. It's not unique or special.
You know, when I was a young guy, that we were looking to procure certain magazines that many of our friends' fathers had, you couldn't easily come across content. It's not like you could walk into a Blockbuster or something and rent a video that was for 18 up, which quite a few of them were. So, we did the hunt for friends, see if they could if their dad had a subscription to a certain magazine and maybe our friends could sneak out one of those old magazines and we would all take a look at it and enjoy the pictures within. And it wasn't like it wasn't a necessarily at that age, it wasn't a sexual thing. It was more a curiosity thing and, of course, an attraction thing. We thought they were beautiful and it was kind of a little risque to see all the bits we weren't supposed to see. It's much different than it is today because now you're indoctrinated with this stuff so quickly that young people go very, very far off into the weeds when it comes to this stuff. It was a much more innocent time when I was a teenager and when we, you know, we were just looking for pictures. We didn't need, we didn't need everything you can get today on the internet. And I think there's a yearning for that because there's something about the mystery of that, you know, the mystery of like a woman that's attractive and she wears something that's just the slightest bit revealing, something that's enticing, but it doesn't show you everything. It's like giving you a little taste of dessert, knowing that there's 15 more desserts and as much as you can eat and it's all delicious. But, but you got it. You're just getting a taste now. Enough to get your mouth watering, you know, enough to get you into the mood. Well, now it's just everything's just bam in your face and the allure and the excitement, the enticement, it's all gone. And I think it's frying out a lot of guys, just I think they're fried out on this stuff. And so there is a definite desire to go back and just let's get back to the mystery. Let's get back to you looking like you're professional and you're shy and you're demure and you're enticing and you would be more for the right type of guy. But when women are just like, bam, here it is for everybody in the world to see, it ruins the illusion because it gives her, it gives her low value. And what I think what men want is higher value when it comes to women like this.
Now, I'm not going to read down through the rest of this, but they're very, very upset that men are just tired of looking at broken women and easy women. And we've had this kind of back and forth discussion on my local channel a few times when I'm doing live streams is, you know, guys are we over there. You can share images, you can share GIFs, you can share JPEGs, you know, you can share a bunch of different file types and guys will upload pictures of women or they'll up and you know it they they it can't be completely spicy, right? They do have some terms of service over there, but guys will post pictures of women in bikinis and in kind of different poses and things like that. And at a certain point I and some of the others were like, "Guys, enough. Like enough. I'm inundated with this stuff on Twitter or on X. I'm inundated in this stuff everywhere I go. You just go to the New York Post and look under lifestyle and dating and you just see Only Fools creators in the stories and it's just too much in so many ways."
Back in the day, whether it was the '50s, the '60s, or the '70s, you would see a pinup or an attractive woman, and it was the way she looked at the camera. It was the way she held herself. Yes, she might be in a bathing suit or something, you know, like some of these pin-up girls were, but they looked fun and they looked excited and they looked mysterious and they looked intriguing. And even though you weren't able to see everything, you could get a certain type of energy from some of those photos. Look up the old Rita Hayworth. It was attractive. It was alluring. It was beautiful. It was sensual. It was exciting. But here's the big thing: there was still a soul behind her eyes. She hadn't had it leeched out of her by trying to get likes on social media, by trying to get followers or make money on Only Fools. There was still a vibrance and a life to that. And I think maybe that's part of what men don't like anymore is that these women are coming broken and damaged and angry and hurtful and men just want a good woman. And when they see a woman that isn't, that could be attractive, that might be attractive, maybe that is attractive a little bit, maybe they say, "I wish you weren't broken. I wish she could make somebody, maybe maybe me. Maybe I wish she could make me a good girlfriend, a good wife, a good mother of my kids." But that's becoming harder and harder to find. And so men are just making up imaginary things. But it's harder to find an imaginary good woman today than it is an imaginary bad girl because the bad girls are everywhere. We have a real shortage of the good ones.
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