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So, how old where did astrology come from, man? How old is it? There's this stone that's on the ceiling in that temple. Ancient uh carvings of well, they don't really look like our astrological signs, but they were astrological signs. And there's been a lot of debate about, you know, were they Greek or were they Egyptian, but they tell the same story. And I think it's kind of that's where we have to get over trying to qualify what it is. If you know anything about numbers and frequencies, 432 is the harmonics of the earth. It's the measurements of the great pyramid. It is like the number of our natural reality. So when you say that this is story of us, what is ultimately the the great key to this is that we are them and they are us. That is the grand gallery in the sky. Our story is written right there. In a way, what I've realized through this is that those stars are us already ascended, which is a pretty trippy notion.
[Music] Now before we jump into this episode, if this conversation resonates with you, please like, subscribe, and share this with whoever you feel that needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep bringing this information out into the world and helps us awaken this planet. Thank you. I'd like to welcome the show, Robert James Comber. How you doing, Robert? Very well. Thank you, Alex. Good to be here. Thank you so much for coming on the show, man. I I I mean, I can't tell you how excited I am to talk to you. We met in Robert uh Robert Grant's little uh the geek the geek under the the the geeks in the basement uh meeting this this kind of like underground mathematician, polymath, physicist kind of u meeting that I I came into one day with you guys. And I my mouth was just on the floor just sitting watching what you guys were talking about because you're all like high-end academics, researchers, uh, explorers. I mean, it's a group of amazing group of people there. And when I saw you, I was like, "Oh my god, finally someone who I could talk to about astrology and other things as well, but from a very grounded place." Because as as I was telling you before we started, astrology has been pretty beat up over the years. Uh you know, like oh my future today, you know, you're on this, you can't do that because uh you know, Venus is talking to the Lana. I don't know. So that kind of stuff, but you come from at it from a a mathemat a mathematician's point of view um and a almost a scientific point of view as well. So my very first question to you is and then I and I know barely other than I'm a cancer. I barely know anything about astrology. So how old where did astrology come from man and how old is it?
Well, yeah, it's a really good question and you know to to sort of for me the approach for this actually is my main background I would say is looking at everything from an artistic point of view and so you know all of the artwork that's in you know in my work and everything that is really how I started to see the lens of things like science and astrology and apply the artistic viewpoint to understand it and so really um I don't necessarily know in terms of astrology like where that was and how long ago but for me within this book and this works. It took me back to the ancient Dendera stone. What's the Dendera stone? The D Oh, the Dendera stone is uh in the temple of Hatheror in Egypt. There's this stone that's on the ceiling in that temple. And obviously, you know, Hatheror is likened to the goddess of like Isis, which is Venus, which is all connected to this whole project. And so really on the Dendera stone there is s sort of ancient uh carvings of well they don't really look like our astrological signs but they were astrological signs and there's been a lot of debate about you know were they Greek or were they Egyptian but they tell the same story and I think it's kind of that's where we have to get over trying to qualify what it is and when we know the story of the stars then we can qualify it as to be truth because it rings true throughout all traditions. And you know obviously you know primitive sort of early man you could say like there's pictures in the Aboriginals you know in or the originals I should say of Australia you know there was star maps and the Doon tribe of star maps and they were visited by you know Syrian beings and so it really goes way back throughout all history but for me it was linking back to the Dendara stone that gave this book the wisdom of the star the star stories to be told again in in this way.
How can you explain the concept of the cosmic dance and how do you use it within a astrology? Well, it's I suppose it's likened to all those symbols of like the e-ching, you know, the like the yinyang. It's it's really that the masculine feminine or the first law of polarity, you could say, you know, and I was even exploring because in in my work, we have what we call the initiation of ether. So, this book, this this works is the initiation of ether. And of course, ether in its spelling, most people only know it with the starting with an e, but actually its original spelling was the a and e together as one. And you can actually do that on your on your when you type the word ae. And that is it's Adam and Eve, right? So it's like ether is Adam and Eve. And so it's this understanding really that you know we are this sort of we experience ourselves within this dance but then we are also the dance itself. And that's really where the initiation of ether pulls us into that not just being local consciousness but also seeing as non-local consciousness but we are a spirit having a human experience not just a human trying to explore the spiritual experience. And so that's the divine feminine pulse shift that happens within us as a consciousness that we experience ourselves moving through like a pro processional cycle going through the zodiacs signs in their order in their order but the precession the greater cycle the great year is actually moving backwards and so simultaneously we're moving forwards in time so to speak and backwards in time but yet it's actually one complete spiral moving through the same thing. And so this is the beauty that you start to see as you zoom out and expand your consciousness to see it from the ether.
So the zodiac signs, I mean, is that go back to the to that stone? I forgot the name of your stone that you were talking about. Dender stone. Yeah, the Dendera stone. Is that Dendara stone? Is that where the the original zodiac signs come from essentially that we know at least? Um I think they've when you do the research it can go even back to sort of like the Babylon times you know and sort of like uh people speak about this but then goe for example like they're doing depictions of astrological signs that we can actually see like signness you know it's very obvious that it's a bird in the sky and so it's in a in a way everybody's had that knowledge and in ancient Peru you know I went to Machapicu and on the very top of that you know there was this part that you can't get to. Uh that was basically an astrological lookout where they would map the stars and actually how they got to it was actually walking through the mountains. It's like a secret path actually walking through the mountains to get to this uh place. And so you know they have like temples of the sun, temples of the moon. And so really we can find this everywhere throughout the world. All all of our cultures have revered the stars and the star stories because ultimately the the great key to this is that we are them and they are us. That is the grand gallery in the sky. It's God's free so to speak, God's free, you know, photo album, free movie for us to enjoy. And all we have to do is look up at the stars and and our story is written right there. And we can go really far into this because in a way what I've realized through this is that those stars are us already ascended which is a pretty trippy notion that we're we're we're seeing them and feel like we're going through that linear time but actually they are us already at the place in which that you know attaining ascension so to speak.
So when you say that this is a story of us, what is it? What stories have you been able to decipher from looking at the stars? Oh, it's it's so magical, you know. It really is magical because most people only know of say 12 zodiac signs you know and so we kind of get you know this is where I think the why people don't trust necessarily or haven't trusted up to this point ast a astrology and zodiac signs because it kind of puts all of humanity into a label of 12 12 possible labels right so it's like this is going to happen to you or this is you that's what you're like and that's not enough that's not in depth enough to understand. And so there's characteristics that have been labeled if you're Aries or if you're cancer, you know, and things like this. But what the dendera stone does and the true what I call the star law, which is not uh l a w, but l o r e, which means that it's it's the verbal transmission of the stories and traditions. And so this is what would have been passed down, you know, as if we were around a campfire looking up at the stars. we would have shared these stories and that's the law that's star law and so a lot of that has been lost and so inside every zodiac sign there are three what they call deacons within each sign so in a whole wheel there's 36 deacons so you have the 12 zodiac signs with 36 deacons now each of those deacons are a constellation themselves and so actually there's four then constellations per zodiac sign. Well, that tells you a much richer story. And this is where we get all of the Greek myths from. Every single Greek myth is in the deacons and the star- law. Every single fairy tale is from here. Every single movie idea is from the stars. And even biblical texts are all in the Deacon Star-Lord story. I haven't come across one story throughout all history that I couldn't pertain to the stars, which is crazy. And that's why it's been glossed over and lost all this time.
So when you say that there's a because now you're definitely walking into my territory of story being a filmmaker for 30 years or so and studying story for so long. Where are you seeing the is it is it through when you say the the lord or the deacons is this a book? Is this ancient text? What is this? Oh so the deacons is like um it's a known term within astrology essentially. And so um you there's different ways of looking at deacons. So deacons can be grouped in like their elements which they call triplicities um or they can be grouped as you know their constellational uh connections. And so there has been books about these about the deacons and about the star-law in the past. But the issue with what they've done is they've just presented it as well. this constellation is in this sign and this is sort of the myth attached to it but nobody's really connected how that connects to their natal chart and that's the disconnect and that's what people need as you know from movies like well it's a great movie but how does that really connect to me and once that happens and you say ah that's my fragment that's my slice of the pie that gives me an idea of what the storyline of my life should unfold with or can unfold with and what the gifts, what the things I need to look out for in my life. And so this is where the story and it's the fastest way to learn. You know, like with children, if you want them to learn anything, if you add a story into it and you add music into it, it is instantaneous understanding. And that's what that's what the, you know, the new Aquarian age wisdom, which this book is about. That's what it's about. instant understanding, integration because it's done through story and music and understand what how it relates to me and my life and that's been the missing part of the star law with your birth chart and now it's all mapped through the book.
You you mentioned the eye chain and that's a been a very mysterious book uh and and text for so many years. I I know not even enough that can be dangerous with it. I just know very little things. My understanding is it's kind of almost like a a you can almost guide your life through it by throwing throwing down some stones or something and then looking up the numbers or something along those lines. Please please forgive me. What is the eyeing ple you because I'm again this is all new to me and it is rare for me to have a guest on that I know very little about the things that they're talking about. So you are my teacher in this world sir. The I-ing is something I don't I have never delved uh so deep into it. So what is the Ching is in general and then how does it connect to astrology? Yeah, it's it's a it's a beautiful question and so super rich and deep. Um, you know, and that's what I think is is great. I would say for so how I sort of discovered it, I would say at first is that there was a modality called human design um that basically placed astrological connections to the Iching. And I don't know whether there was already an astrological connection to the Iching previously or whether it was just two separate things, but either which way I saw this map and from that map from, you know, from my artist's view is where I could find the lost octave, this this missing gap. And so a lot of people have used, as you say, like the Iching for things like divination and and all of these things. And of course, it's molded over the years. is I mean it literally started out as like first man literally putting like lines in the sand so to speak you know breaking the yarrow sticks and aligning them for so to try and understand the seasons you know it's a binary code essentially there's just you know it starts off as yin and yang and then those multiples as you go into two lines become biograms and then three lines are triagrams and then we end up with what we call hexogs which are six lines now so It's kind of evolved over thousands of years. And so this is where people like Confucious and uh the Dao DeQing all of that influence of philosophy then got applied to binary code. So it's kind of like applying a philosophy to computer code now. And so that's really what they did. And of course you can use binary code to understand well should I turn left or should I turn right? You know it's a flick of a coin heads or tails. And it's moves us into is it probability or chance or is it kind of a connection with the spiritual energies cosmic energies like runes for example like how they would cast runes on the ground. So people have used it in this way. For me it's just a it's a language that gives us a framework and so from that framework then we can start to fill in the beauty and grow the flowers through the fence. So I wouldn't necessarily say that I mean people have really gone into the iching and and understanding it on on so many levels but for me it's kind of like if we are preoccupied with with those details too much like you need it to sort of satisfy the left brain and that's why this book is very balanced you know if you really want to geek out on the maths and the left brain it's all there everything every calculation everything's in the book I haven't held anything back of of that but in a way you miss the story, you know, probably as a filmmaker yourself, it's like, you know, you can't help but sort of look at the quality perhaps of the camera, the film, and it's like and then realize if you're if you're getting too connected to that side of it, then maybe it's missing the the journey, right? And so that's why it's the divine feminine language this book is written through. Um, because it's trying to balance us into saying once you know you've got all the ingredients, the fun is in the making. The fun is in the journey of that discovery. And to really love that and be present with that, not necessarily too hooked up on the on the details, you know, let someone else figure that out, which I have. All of the sound frequencies, all of the hertz, all of the musical notes, all the musical tones, you can literally hear your natal chart in sound. You know, it's like everything's done. So, don't worry about that. Focus on the beauty of the story and and and go deeper into the consciousness of how that's going to connect to you and your life.
So, the IQing or the ying and the yang are basically the ones and zeros of that code essentially. And that and then that code over the over time is almost like a flip of a coin like is it is it actually predicting the future or is it chance? Uh and then it got a little bit more sophisticated as it went on. So instead of one just a one and a zero, it got six six uh pieces of code essentially. Yeah. So six ones and zeros essentially. And so yeah, so there was um there was yrow sticks that they would use and then it morphed into the three what they call the three coin method where they would say flip three coins and then write down the answers and you know that's kind of like the divination side of it that people use as like an oracle set. Um, but yeah, it's it's it's really beautiful that how that all works because of it ties into the cellular structure of DNA because that's the same sort of essence and really zeros and ones you can apply different meanings. That could be male and female, you know, it's just that obviously the simplest language that we could write about was zeros and ones. And they were doing this, you know, also in Africa way earlier where they were using um these African priests were using shells and they were drawing lines in the sand and they were so they would ask be asked a question like an oracle and they would like use these shells to determine if this shell was turned over or or on top and then that would correlate to a line in the sand or a line this way. And so almost like every single primitive first man in a way first man woman is you know we have to calculate and work out things and so we use our fingers we use ones and zeros you know and so that's the simplest language and that's really what that's why I say it's the structure in a way of of all things uh within this dimension for sure when you move into the other dimensions then that's really when you start to move into what they now already have is like trinary ary code. And the only reason why we don't use trinary code in our computers is simply because it needs a bigger processor. And it's a it's a interesting metaphor because at the moment you could say we're using a very uh it uses a load of data, a load of memory, and it's very kind of uh it actually makes mistakes in computer code which not many people know of like the transfer of data. And so really when you move into trinary it's faster, it's more efficient, it makes less mistakes and it holds tin, it uses a tiny amount of memory, but the crux is that you need a bigger processor. Well, that is that's like us. We need to increase our consciousness, expand our ability to harness this energy into the form so that we can as well move into that new code, so to speak. And so that's really where I've unraveled the the you know in the book the the opening into the triple uh helix DNA and how that can work musically. Um, and so it's really exciting how you know the potentials of this unfolding.
And when you said the raising of the consciousness is kind of like upgrading your processor. It makes a lot of sense to me because as you raise your consciousness, you got to have to go outside of yourself of this of this computer. You gota have to you have to kind of be connected to the internet essentially. So you're raising your consciousness to a way to pipe into universal knowledge. And then the more stable that connection is, the more your consciousness is, that's how you start to grow. You still have the same computer, but it's connected to much more information and can process a lot more because now you've got the processing power of the internet as opposed to just your CPU. Is that a good analogy? Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. It really starts to give us a great again a story, an archetype of understanding like how do we then evolve from this point here with technology and how can we connect to that and understand that as a a human process also. And so yeah, the fact is that it's going to use a lot less memory. That means that we're more present. We can instantly in integrate wisdom if we become a clearer vessel for for that light and we move into universal consciousness. And that's why I say it's the initiation of ether because once you get into that universal consciousness, then you realize everything is connected. There isn't one thing that isn't connected. And so everything works together in all languages. And so with this book, I've been able to link uh you know the e-ching to the 72 names uh of God in Hebrew. Well, hold on a minute. So you've got two completely different traditions now saying the same language that was written about thousands of years ago. And so I found this with everything with, you know, with music, with geometry, everywhere. I tried to basically dis everywhere I went, Alex, I tried to disprove the very thing that I found because that's kind of like, you know, it was so unbelievable how it came through and and unveiling this that I was like, okay, let's let's try maths. Let's try geometry. Let's try music. Let's try there's got to be something that's not one thing is not even one degree off. like throughout every single language and that's why I say every film fairy tale the the stars the solar system the king's chamber you know and these are like huge universal cultures of things and everything fits together like a glove yeah and it's very similar to what uh in one aspect of what you're saying what Joseph Campbell was able to find in the hero's journey which is across all stories many stories at least um and there's I think about seven or eight stories that just keep getting retold and retold and retold and retold in so many different ways.
Yeah, exactly. So, let me just ask you straight up. This all the you know there's astrology is a probably I don't know if it's a billion dollar industry but there's a lot of money in astrology and there's an ast there's an astrology in every newspaper if you still read newspapers and and people want to know what their astrological what the astrolog astrological sign means for them and all of this stuff. What's your point of view on these daily well today's Friday and if you're a cancer do not walk across the street that kind that kind of stuff where people are really connected to I mean some people run their lives based on their astrological charts and and and all that stuff where do you fall in that and is it is it woowoo is there some truth to it or have people taken it too far just I'd love to hear your thoughts yeah it's a great question um I mean I think what I found the most is that through there's 72 gates in that that I found. So, well, the octave is eight on top of the 64 hexagons of the EQing. So, it makes it 72 gates. And what I found is that through any one gate, it doesn't matter where it is or what what sign it's in. If you go through any one gate, you all the way through and you really have to tune in internally for this. It's a it's a it's a process of unlocking your own consciousness through astrology or through the Iching. And so you're using it as tools to to open doors to open those gates to find what it is that essence that is the universal consciousness. And any single one of those gates, if you go all the way through, you end up in the same place. And that's why I think that we can say that you know I'm this sign and that sign and when you realize that actually they work in pairs you know so although for you if your sun sign's cancer then your earth sign's going to be Capricorn well oh okay a lot of people don't even know that they work in pairs like that so all of a sudden now you expand your knowledge and when you really look at a nasal chart you pretty much have all the signs. So, there's going to be a planet normally in in one of those each of those signs. Um, and so you realize like I've limited my view of like I'm this because that's focused on just purely the sun. And so really you start to see that wow, I'm all of the signs. If I learn all of it and how it all works, then I really understand me and my journey through the solar year because we go through every single sign in the solar year. So when then if you know the story of each sign every single year, it's not just applying to some one person that oh this is my gate. It applies to everybody. So then we we collectively understand the peaks and the troughs and what we're expected to kind of deal with in a year. And so then the what you're saying about being kind of like a barrage of of galactic, you know, planetary energies and things that's like the weather. So that's the weather forecast. So it is really handy to say that you know this it's going to be raining today or you know Mars is moving into this sign because it's like saying well do I need to put a rain jacket on today or can I be in my shorts? So I would say it's the that's like the weather but really the true essence of astrology if you really want to get into it is is to realize that you are you are this whole design. You are going through all of the star signs. You are all of these star signs.
So, how does it connect? So, this is a this is the interesting part of astrology for me, I'm born in February, which I have no idea what the sign is for February, but I'm born in February. And then just because of my entry point into this reality, all of this information is now attached to me, right? um where you could get what kind of like a weather forecast of where you are in the day and like oh I can only use me as a cancer because I truly only know mostly about my own sign. So I'm supposed to be creative. We're supposed to be loving all this kind of stuff. And generally speaking, every cancer I've ever met, it feels like, oh yeah, it makes sense that you're a cancer. You know, whether you believe it or not or it's just it's fun to just like, oh, that's interesting. Yeah, you got a lot of the same characteristics. Not all cancers are artists. Not all cancers are caring of course but there's some elements to it. So our entry into this reality automatically assigns us to this this system you know or or because if you're born in December you're a Sagittarius and it and it's a whole other kind of energy. So is that a on a soul level you're choosing like all right I'm going to come in in February because February is going to give me this this kind of reality of what kind of person I am based on the stars is that make sense yeah no absolutely and that's why it goes back to this hero's journey you know because it's you know there is an imprinting of time and space so you know we create anything or do anything it's kind of logged in time and space as with a certain uh you know certain qualities connected to it. But that's kind of like entering this world with like saying you know like entering sort of a movie that you know that hero in the or hero in the movie doesn't stay the same. You know the whole point is that they go through that journey to evolve and to adapt but they they are given in a way na certain natural abilities to sort of help them in certain ways and that certain downfalls where they they need to learn lessons to you know move themselves up in consciousness. So when you're born really you've come in with a certain imprinting that's connected to the cellular form because obviously don't forget that really we're talking about the difference between consciousness and then who I am as a personality and a and a and a physical form which is sort of two separate parts really in even though they're one. So the body form gets incarnated when those cosmic energies are a certain way. And so therefore we have certain physical abilities, certain physical traits and certain you know things that we may be you know uh lacking or certain ancestral things that come into our body also. So we kind of like land in the body with this imprinting and then the consciousness is like oh wow this one's like I'm super good at this but I'm really like I react really bad at this. And so our journey for the hero's journey is to bring all of that into harmony and to understand that we actually aren't just one sign. It's just like entering one door, you know, we actually are are all of these signs playing out every single year and within the greater bigger bigger wheel.
So the so astrology in in many ways according to you is kind of like one of nature's laws. So, as you're being formulated in the in the soup of your your your mother's womb, the time period that you come out is part of the formulation process. Period. It's very similar to if you've got a 7 foot2 and a 6 foot8 mom. Good chances are you're going to be tall as a general as not always, but most of the time that makes sense because that's kind of the soup that you're being built in. Does is that what you're trying to say? And yeah, and exactly. And you know, we know that the the moon has an effect on the earth because of the tides. Of course. Of course. Of course. You know, and so we know that when the when it's full moon, the waters rise in your body. And of course, that's where we get the idea of a lunatic from because the waters rise, the emotion, the emotions rise all the way to the head. And of course, you become emotional. And so that's really where the lunatic comes from. So all of this has been known. And in ancient alchemy, the only way to create the philosopher's stone was to work in conjunction with the planets because it was an inner process and an outer process. And so you know when they were trying to distill or you know extract Mercury for example like they would write in their notes and it's been you know all over uh you know ancient texts that you have to do this in conjunction with this moon you know this Mercury aspect and if you do it on this one the whole thing falls flat. So there's a deeper wisdom that it's about you working in harmony and that's why obviously it's called the lost octave. about understanding octaves and that everything's fractal and everything's connected to everything else. So, you know, if the planets are in a certain alignment and you're trying to do a certain thing that's kind of like going against that grain, it's like trying to, you know, swim up river. It's going to be you could do it, but it's going to be harder for you. So when you know the weather when you know your imprinting and and how that works then your life you can move through the life with a lot more grace and you can avoid bigger catastrophes and that's where I think that that's when you have wisdom you know because you can see things predict things have see it clearly before you decide to jump in and so that's really where astrology gives you transparency.
Yeah, it's kind of like, you know, I used to live in Florida, so you know, when a hurricane's coming, they're like, "Hey, in 10 days, a five category 5 hurricane's going to hit you. Uh, prepare." Uh, if without that warning, like the olden days, uh, all of a sudden the gods were angry and they destroyed a whole bunch of stuff. But because of the warning, you kind of have a chance to prepare. So astrology in many ways if you understand it properly and how and do it properly because there's a lot of improper or hokey ways of doing astrology. Am I right or wrong on that? Is there like a lot of woowoo ways of doing it that doesn't line up with what you're saying? Yeah. I mean I don't to be honest with you I don't really know. I mean I've heard of different you know zodiac sort of principles and archetypal things and and like I said you know that's that's been there. For me, it was actually fairly I would say fairly new also for me with astrology and understanding this because you know people think oh you have to have learned 20 years worth to understand what I know now but not really because when you understand certain key patterns of the universe then everything falls into place like octaves like and so that's why I say that in the book and what I share with my work is that when you know certain geometry those geometries run through all dimensions. So you only need to know a handful of geometrical shapes and then they go into hyperdimensional shapes. So then you you only need to know one octave of music because all the other octaves are the same repeating pattern. So when you understand this these universal sort of principles then you can apply that to everything and you can learn it so much quicker and integrate it. And so astrology is like that that once you understand certain patterns, you know, like the zodiac signs and then the deacons, then it it really you understand the whole the whole cycle and you know, then you've got a beauty of then moving through that and getting your own sort of personal experience and nuance. But I think this is where yeah where I think perhaps it's been run away with as like a woowoo subject or sort of like people have just put their own understandings on it without really looking at the the science and going into consciousness with it. And that's what uh that's what I say that you know the binary code was trying to understand of the Iching originally was trying to understand the seasons. That's why they invented the Iching. It was invented to understand agriculture to fertility the weather so they can grow things and avoid floods and dangers. So they created that to understand how we move through the year. And so that's where I think this beautiful balance time is now where we can apply science, music, mathematics and geometry with the story and we balance both hemispheres of the brain and then we get a total understanding and then we can see everything through that lens. Like I said like all the the biblical stories the solar eclipse you know there was there's so much talk about that last solar eclipse of you know all sorts of doomsday and everything. If you understood the star law, you wouldn't have had a worry at all because it's it's a natural occurring process that happens all the time. And in the Star-Lord, you know, that was the the story of Pinocchio and his father being eaten by the by the great whale, which is linked to the Avatar story that we've just had, you know, Avatar 2, the way of water, where they go into the whale and they extract the the nectar from inside the whale, which is the ama, which is the pineal, the fluid from the pineal gland of enlightenment. So, it's like when you see this story, it's it's an age-old story of archetypes. And so when you can see that these things are about to happen, these conjunctions, it's it's you can prepare for them and you understand them on a on a much deeper much deeper level.
So you're essentially understanding the these these octaves, these codes, the basic uh foundation of the universe in many ways. It's basically the Rosetta Stone. And once you understand the Rosetta Stone, then reading hieroglyphics are very easy. Yeah. Yeah. And things just kind of fall. So a circle is a circle is a circle in all dimensions. A square is a square is a square in all dimensions. There's no there's it's just Well, that's why they say that math is the ultimate language. If if we ever are going to connect with another species from outer space, math will be the language because it's a language that can translate across the universe essentially because one and zeros math is or geometry another version of math is uh is the universal language in many ways and I think that's yeah I think that we could do it that way and then I think also like right brain we could do it through sending music obviously it's mathematically calculated, but music or even color because, you know, uh like children respond great to color, you know, like instantly they can they can literally change their whole emotional state through looking at different colors and like the colors they dress in. And so, you know, when we look at those things, you know, animals respond like the red to the bull, right? It's like it's instantaneous and that's a language. And so when we go into deeper understandings of language like for us it's easy to use ones and zeros and that's where we get this idea that the the world is a simulation or like you know the universe is a simulation. It's it's not that the universe is in ones and zeros. It's just that that is the language that we the simplest language that we describe it as. And of course it has numbers within that universe. But we could easily explain it as it's everything's masculine or feminine like the law of polarity or you know everything's black or white or you know so it doesn't really matter what we assign those two aspects to. Uh it's really just that you know the field holds all of these things.
Now, what role does the Lion's Gate play in the astrological astrological interpretations and spiritual practices of of what you've discovered? Yeah. No, beautiful to to share that because um that's really how the whole this whole book came about, this whole work came about because uh you know, I was working on another project which was actually about uh using I'm a colorologist. So it's about using color as like a a new astrology for the future time. And so I'm sure that will be released after I've done these projects. So it's about it's imagine like saying that you were like a blue or green. It's like well okay what does that mean? And so it's a whole thing to go into, right? That your your natal chart could be connected to a certain range of colors. So it's the same type of story but just done through a feeling way of understanding rather than just sort of say an analytical way so to speak with degrees you know. So, um, the Lion's Gate 88, well, obviously 8 is a powerful number. And so, uh, an 88 is a what they call a master number. And obviously 888 is a angel number or triple number. And we're actually going to have an 888 this year, Lionsgate, which is the one-year anniversary of this book. What year? What's the date? It'll be the 8th of the 8th and 2024, isn't it? Oh, yeah. The fourth. Yeah. So uh so you know very powerful you know eight is is it's an octave which means that the the law of octave that's in the book is it explains that the the beginning note is the same as the end note. So the philosophy is that the beginning is the end and the end is the beginning. So really it's a loop. It's it's a complete spherical understanding of it. And so this Lion's Gate is essentially is a is like a portal. It's when like uh stars align and it lines to Sirius through Egypt through the the great sphinx. And um that understanding of Sirius essentially was supposedly said to be the star of Bethlehem as well. So it's it's the brightest star in the night sky and it's connected to our us as a binary star system which is essentially that our solar system is connected to Sirius as this binary star. So it kind of looks like a vesica pisces if you can imagine that that geometry and so this is where connected to the the great procession of the equinox of time. And so Sirius has been a special star especially in Egypt you know and and it's this time of when the galactic sun you know it's our galactic central sun that energy comes through through our sun and then onto the earth and so it's kind of like galactic consciousness being opened to us and that's why this lion's gate you know it it's such a potent time because Leo or the lion is he's like the king the king and queen of the astrological signs.
I'd love to ask you about this because one of my fascinations has been the yugas and the 26,000year cycle. From what you just said, it just triggered something in me to ask you this question that right now we are going up towards enlightenment. So we're going up, we are evolving higher now. We're leaving the dark ages and we are now evolving. I mean, anyone could just look at the last h 100red years and we've seen how fast it's growing. It's going extremely fast. So, we're heading up towards the top where the top of of the of the the cycle would have said let's say was Atlantis or Lumriia or those that kind of in recent quote unquote recent history. Um, and then it started to get we started to devolve and you can kind of see how we devolved throughout even our short history from the kind of the greatness of what the Egyptian Empire was to it just falling into disarray and then it just kept going and going till we get dark. When you just said that, there has to be a connection between the Yuga cycle and the star cycles where we are in connection to Sirius, where we are in connection to how far away we are close. I was told by and I forgot who told it to me on the show, but that there is a center part of the of the universe and that let's call that God conscious consciousness and it's right there. And then when we are farther away from it, we go darker. When we're closer to it, we become more enlightened because we're becoming getting closer to source as a as a as a galaxy. Does that make sense at all to you? Oh, absolutely. You you narrated that perfectly. So, yeah, it's No, it's really good because there's a lot of confusion as to how long is a great year, a processional cycle. And there's there's two main sort of numbers. And the in the holy sciences you're speaking about the the yoga cycle is the Yeah, I love his work. And so that's broken down into 24,000 years. But then there's also another and that's known as the short cycle or the fast sort of cycle. And then the longer cycle when we're further away is 25,920 years. And now what's really interesting is that 25,920 years when you look at it through the lens of geometry, everything fits perfectly. Like the cube, the octahedron, like it's like it's an amazing thing. Well, what's really interesting with that is that that's kind of like more based with matter density because geometry. And then 24,000 years is more akin to 24 hours of the day. So it's like time. So all of a sudden we've got this difference of time and matter that when it's further away it's kind of like more dense and more, you know, and when it's closer, it's more
sped up in time. So that's a really interesting thing. And so, yeah, we kind of do this sort of slingshot as we go around. And now we're kind of getting slung quickly, and that's why it feels like everything is just evolving like on a really rapid pace. But we're not even anywhere near at that kind of like fast pace yet. We're just kind of like warming up. So things are really going to speed up, you know, even more so.
And so that Yuga cycle, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of speak about the transition from the Kali Yuga into the Dwapara Yuga. But I would say from what I've calculated is that we've really finished the transition because there's kind of like transition periods between the Kali Yugas and the next ones. And so really, we've finished that and we're in the Dwapara. We're kind of in this bronze age, this new bronze age, which I really prefer to say. It's more like a, it's more like a rose gold, you know? It's, it's not sort of that oreness. It's like it's almost that rose energy. And you can feel that with a lot of creative people that there seems to be this birthing of this rose gold. It's everywhere. It's on phones. It's on, you know, people wear it. So that's a really beautiful sign that we are now starting to, you know, shift our energy frequencies. And of course, we're, you know, in a way already in the Age of Aquarius.
You and I, the first time I heard the Age of Aquarius was in that song from the in the '60s or '70s. I forgot. I didn't know. I think it was the '60s. The Age of. Yeah. Mine too, sir. Mine too. Uh, I'm not that old, sir. Uh, but I remember hearing. I'm assuming you've heard that song, "Age of Aquarius." That one. Um, what is the Age of Aquarius? I keep hearing people say it. Can you explain to the audience what the Age of Aquarius is because it is something obviously very connected to astrology. Yeah. Yeah.
And so this, this, this book, "The Lost Octave," and works, I would say it's really, I call it this from the future being sent back to now because the way in which it sort of narrates the story and our evolution is in a way, it's very futuristic. But because it's the divine feminine, it's so grounded and it makes everything seem so easy. And, you know, so we can think about that the Age of Pisces is water. So it's, you know, it's the, the age of water. And so the Age of Aquarius, although it is a water man or water woman pouring water, is actually an air sign. So that's one of the easiest ways to think about it. And they're the evol, the elemental initiations of consciousness. So if you, in the alchemy, it would be, you start as earth, then into water, air, and then fire, and then ether. And so really, we're, we're coming out of water and we're kind of like growing wings and we're learning to fly. So that this understanding, and that's in our bodies. We're coming from the emotional body into the mental body. And so that's why we're seeing this boom in mental and cognitive and brainwave patterns and people, you know, all of this stuff about understanding these things. Whereas the previous age was so emotional, you know, it was so turbulent. And so this is how we can understand it.
And so the balance is to, to help us move into that is to not get too heavy into the mental understanding and understand what the element of air is about. You know, it's really about that fine line of balance of expression. And so we've learned the emotional aspect of Pisces. And now we can bring it up and through and out the throat. And we can start to express that and speak. And that's why we're getting a lot of, you know, free speech, what we can say, what we can't say, you know, empowerment. And so this is really this understanding of the Aquarian age is here to be the emotional mastery, but with also mental discernment and balance. Because if we go into air too quickly, and that's why you get the this sort of archetype of the airhead, right? There's not much going on, or there's too much going on, you know, somebody's too much thinking. And so we're at this transition time of finding this beautiful balance of the mind and the emotions. And of course, that place is linked to from the heart. And that's really where the element of air is, uh, in the chakra system, you know, is that the element of air is actually in the heart chakra, which is really interesting. And so it's this sort of ascension through the body that we're going into. And, you know, Aquarius is ruled by Uranus, which is is about expansion. You know, Urania, in the in the ancient philosophy, you know, she is the, the goddess of the stars. So, it's interesting that all of this astrology and understanding this is all coming now. Um, and so Aquarius really is the opportunity to drink from spiritual waters and to move into higher, higher wisdom in balance with the mind and the emotions.
Are we destined as a species to continuously go through these cycles because we are now, it's if it's attached to the to the universe, it's attached to the galaxies and to the stars? Well, right now we're in a quote-unquote positive turn, but if history serves me correct, we will go back past that time and come back towards the darker ages where we start to devolve. Is this just an endless cycle of our species, or will we be able to eventually break free of that cycle and either leave the plan, leave the planet and go to another solar system? It's very Star Treky of me. Um, that we evolve to a place that we don't have to go back and learn those lessons again. This is more of a spiritual, esoteric question, but I'd love to hear your thoughts. Yeah.
Well, it's really apt because in the Aquarian gate, which is gate 66, which is really interesting. So, it's a master number gate. And so, in there, I actually wrote about the history of the root races. And this is a very esoteric idea of what they call the root races. And so they're essentially, this is what you're speaking about, the Atlanteans and the Muurians. This is where it comes from. And so the first root race were the Polarians, you know, the first sort of beings. And they weren't, they were sort of almost like etheric beings without much form. And then we kind of had to, you know, add more form. And so the next evolution was the Hyperboreans, which is kind of like where we get these huge giants and cyclops, you know, archetypes from, and Bigfoot and things like this. And then we had the Lemurians, where this sort of, we were then kind of in form. And, you know, my sort of view of them is sort of imagine like Tolkien's elves, you know, like the, the elven race. It's sort of like where they're at one with nature and harmony and their, you know, understand things and crystals and music and animals and everything. And then we evolved into the Atlanteans. Then we went into the Aryan race, which is nothing to do with the normal term of Aryan. And then now we're, we're moving into what they call the sixth root race. And I've done all of these calculations. And so we're at the end, the last incarnations of the Aryan race and the beginning incarnations of the new sixth root race. And so this wheel of going up and around is that the downward cycle doesn't have to be about tragedy and loss of consciousness. It can also be about the fact that one will naturally have, one evolution will stop and, and the other ones will begin. So it's like a, we can do it as like a handover. So we don't have to actually fall in our consciousness and, you know, have cataclysms if we can internally, as conscious beings, choose conscious paths. And so this is what it's all about is that, you know, you know, lots of myths about things like Atlantis, it's, you know, people made the wrong decisions, played with things they shouldn't have played with, and that's what caused disruption. And we have that a lot today. There's a lot of power that can be used, and if misused, you know, could throw our Earth axis literally off course. Could, you know, launching missiles at the moon could like move the moon and what would implement that for the tides? So, there's like we've really got to be careful about how we choose to move forward. And I think that's becoming more self-evident. And people are, they want that. They want to be involved in, in world understandings now of like, you know, not just things that are just happening, but like, how do we affect the whole? And so, yeah, this, this changeover is, it can be, it can be a smooth ride into this next root race.
So when you're speaking of root races, uh, the first thing that came to mind is, and and I'd love to hear your point of view on this, because it is these beings came from the sky, which is the Anunnaki. Uh, which is another fascination of mine with, you know, from the Babylonians and the Sumerians. Uh, the whole story of the space god or the sky gods coming down and basically giving civilization knowledge, understanding, and that story is in every major culture, every ancient culture out there. There is a version of that from the Bhagavad Gita to, uh, to what happened in in Mesoamerica. All of them have a version of this. What are your thoughts on this story and how does that connect to astrology? Yeah.
It's a really good question. It's, it's in a way, you can see it as different points. I mean, it depends on how far we could say back that the Anunnaki beings or whatever came back. I mean, it's difficult because is that in the same conjunction as when the fall of Atlantis happened, or are we talking like a first ever being on the earth? You know, because, you know, in a way, like to try and get that understanding of like how humans have evolved, well, perhaps we needed to have certain genetic modifications or certain things added in order to have more solidified bodies on the earth or to evolve in consciousness. Um, so in a way, for me, I kind of see that whatever hap, what was ever, whatever has happened up to now has happened for that reason. And within a perhaps even bigger cycle, like a star story always has its ups and flows, you know, like the hero, he's just about to die, and then suddenly he comes back to life. So whatever the story has happened up to now, like the, the beauty is that we've already hit rock bottom before. The, the only way is up for us. And so, you know, in order to maintain that momentum is to really tune into this galactic consciousness, understand ourselves better through these things like astrology and, and deeper still, which all link to the DNA, unless we're understanding DNA and, and music and things like this. It's, it's empowering us to make better choices. And so for me, I think the, yeah, like the stories have been the stories. And, you know, for me, it's more about how does that apply now and how does that apply for a better, a better future? And I think that we've been actually given a great hand, you know, like a deck of cards. It may seem like we're kind of losing in certain ways, but actually, if we play our cards right, you know, then we, we've got, we got a couple of aces, which is our consciousness in our sleeve, you know. And so if we learn to tap into that, you like, um, Yogananda behind you. You know, if we learn to tap how to tap into the inner technology, which is what yoga is. It's, it's technology. And so if we learn how to tap into that, then we actually move and we can do things like communicate without having to have mobile phones. We can evolve like exponentially. Especially with, uh, Uranus being the, the planet, which is the planet of huge expansion, we could see things that we never even dreamed of. I mean, 100 years ago, they probably could never even dreamed where we are now. So within 20 years, we could be a double that again if we, if we choose, you know, to to study ourselves and to get to know ourselves and each other.
Now, one thing, one of the reasons we met, um, Rob, is that, uh, Robert Grant invited me to that amazing gathering of like-minded minds, and you were there talking about some discoveries that you guys made in Egypt and in the King's Chamber and the connections through Shakespeare, through Da Vinci, through artwork, through mathematics, through geometry. Um, can, and I already had Robert on and we kind of dug as deep as we could at the time. I'm gonna have him back on soon to do part two of that conversation, but do you, you have a little bit of your perspective on what was discovered in the, the King's Chamber and stuff. And you have a little bit of a presentation that you can kind of guide us through. Correct.
This is really fun because it's to get to this stage where it looks like almost obvious and easy, you know, was a, was a real work in process. And so, you know, to go back a little bit to that, that story is that, yeah, like, uh, Robert had discovered these petroglyphs, you know, on the walls and, and, you know, I was part of this group. Um, and so he was showing the video of, you know, walk of the, the simulation that he has of where you can walk around the King's Chamber and see the, the petroglyphs. And of course, I, my whole book is about the Star-Lord stories and the constellations and all of these things. And so he said, "Oh, you know, there's an arrow over here and there's, there's a bird over here." And, and I'm looking at it and thinking, "Wow, that's really, this is really uncanny. This looks like astrology. Not in a typical way, but the symbols are the same." Mhm. And so as we were going around the walls more and more and more, I just said to Robert that I said, "Robert, I think these are the deacons of astrology, which is connected to that Dendera stone in Egypt also." So hold on a minute. Now we've got a connection between the Temple of Hathor in Egypt and then now the Great, the King's Chamber and the Great Pyramid. Well, that correlation hadn't been done. So now this is really interesting. And so it was because of the deacons, not the 12 zodiac signs, that I was able then to show Robert like, oh, this should be there on the wall. And so when we looked at that part of the wall, he could find what it is that I said that should be there. And so that it actually ran perfectly as the procession of the equinox. Okay, so this is amazing. And so now we can see on the diagram, you know, the King's Chamber, um, and, you know, this is the entrance that you would, would walk through, and this is a person, say, standing there looking at this back wall here, as you can see, the astrological signs are evenly placed and on the parts of the wall. And that's great. What's beautiful about this is that this view of where this person is standing looking at the King's Chamber is the same view as you see in the Last Supper painting of Leonardo da Vinci. So, and you're going to, and you're going to be able to prove that obviously. Oh, it's, we already have. Yeah, it's, but like to show us a representation. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm teeing you up, sir. I already slide. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And so what I think is really beautiful about this is that a couple of things that I, I found is that the, essentially, we can see that this, this symbol here, which is Leo, this is pointing to the west. Well, this would be the exact alignment of where the Sphinx is. Uh, you know, and so this, this is really, this calibration of how we can start to date through this understanding, start to date how this pyramid, when this pyramid was potentially built, which is really interesting. And of course, this aligns to Orion's belt, which we've also placed on top of this and found the position of Orion within this. And so we're really starting to get an understanding of how the pyramids potentially, when the pyramids were built, due to the astrological connections within those walls. A couple of other things that are really beautiful in this is that through music, we can see that the sarcophagus, um, was actually, I think it was John Stewart Reed that measured that the sarcophagus was 117 Hertz frequency. So there's the sound of the sarcophagus itself, which resonates a note B. But what I found was when I did the calculations for 11 planets in our solar system, those 11 planets made the same exact note. So that means that the sarcophagus resonates at the same note as 11 planets within our solar system. Well, that's quite, that's quite, that's quite interesting. But better still is that the, the, the actual King's Chamber itself, when you measure that, then that works out at the, the sound frequency of the note C, which is the note of the sun. So now we've got, we've got the note of the sun, which is the King's Chamber, to the sun going through the astrological signs and the 11 planets. It, it is a stargate because it creates the same sound as the entire solar system. It's a rep, it's a micro representation of the macro, all in that, all designed, all there on the walls, the sound, the geometry, everything. There isn't one thing that isn't connected to the solar system, and it's all found in the King's Chamber. So amazing.
The last aspect I'll say before I move on to that next slide is that this person is essentially how we see the Last Supper painting. Mhm. And the back of them is connected to Aquarius. So hold on a minute. That means that when we look at the Leonardo da Vinci's painting of the Last Supper, we are standing in the very position of the Aquarian age. And he put that in the drawing back then. So he knew that this was going to happen. This was time encoded that how we see the Last Supper is from the perspective of our Aquarian age. Before anybody knew or really understood about the Aquarian age at a large scale. I, I have a, I have a belief that he, he knew astrology and so he pre-planned and put that in there. And, um, he knew things that we had no idea about. He just. Yeah. I mean.
All right. So what's the next slide? What's this? Please, I want people to see it. So interesting. So, as we look at this picture, we're in that King's Chamber and we're standing with our back to the Aquarian age. So, we're, we're standing in Aquarius looking dead center. And remember, Leo was in that western point, and that's exactly where the Christ is in the center. And so what's interesting is that the, it moves in a precession backwards from right to left, and that's that mirrors the great, the great year. And then the actual disciples or apostles, they actually move in the procession. So now we have the procession and precession exactly like what happens in our solar system. That we move through the year forwards, and then the great year moves backwards, and that's replicated in the King's Chamber and in the Last Supper exactly. And you can actually see that the images, so the, the way in which they're painted, the way in which the figures are created, simulate the constellations. So the angles of their body, you can see this here. And see this one of Virgo, this constellation Virgo. What's really interesting, uh, I haven't spoke about this before, Alex, but I, I think it's a great place to put it on your show, is that the constellation Virgo here, well, this little bit that's jutting out, basically where they're touching, and obviously this image is often, you know, depicted as Mary Magdalene, it, it was supposedly St. John, but, you know, it's kind of favored to be Mary Magdalene. And which fits astrologically as this would be Virgo or right here, this star that's right in here where they're touching exactly on that bottom V, which is the representation of the chalice or the womb. So right by the womb here, in the side of Virgo, which is the womb of Virgo, is a star called Spica. And okay, that's great. What does that mean? Spica in the mystery tradition is how we start the whole mythology. You start in Virgo and you have the child in the womb as Spica, and then the child is born and he grows up to be another constellation, and that constellation is Boötes, and within Boötes constellation, you have the star Arcturus. And who is Arcturus? He is the cosmic sander Christ. So between them two, it's the Christ child that happens to correlate exactly where they're touching. Really, essentially encoding from my view, encoding to tell us that there was a child or the Holy Grail, the child in the womb. There's a holy grail bloodline that Mary Magdalene is with child because it coordinates with the Virgo constellation connecting in with the Christ touching her at the exact point of where the child is.
So you're telling me that the Da Vinci Code was real? [Laughter] Yeah. Way. It's, it's even more. I mean, these are new, you know, these are brand new because obviously, uh, through our discoveries of the King's Chamber and the astrological signs, you know, we, it's now able to put this together really exactly and see that it's understanding. And that's why I'm able to share this and see how all of this aligns perfectly. And this was just like a gem to see because if, if you didn't know the star law of what that star is there, then wouldn't understand what that, what Leonardo da Vinci is showing us, encoding into this painting.
How in God's green earth did Da Vinci encode so many things in his paintings? Because Robert, uh, showed me some of the things that are on, if not all of the things that are on the wall in the King's Chamber are actually also in this painting. Yeah. Abs. Yeah. Exactly. And exactly. And as we see here is Taurus, and there's a Taurus bull that Robert found on the wall here. So, it's, we've, we've come at it from so many angles, from the petroglyphs to me knowing the deacons, to Robert studying Leonardo da Vinci, to then me looking at Leonardo da Vinci through the astrological eyes, and we're all coming up with this, we're coming up with the same answer repeating over and over again. And it's just, it's too. That's why I say there's, there's not one thing that I've looked at that doesn't fit. And it, and the beauty is because it. A picture says a thousand words. We know. But when you know the star law, you know the message that Leonardo da Vinci is trying to show. And that's, that's the beauty of knowing astrology, you know, really on a deep, uh, conscious level.
That is absolutely amazing. Do you have any other, any, any other slides? Uh, not of that, but, uh, lots of other things, but, um, that's amazing. That's remarkable. Absolutely remarkable. Yeah, I think that's a, that's a, you know, it's a really great one to share. I, I literally haven't even shared that with, uh, only with Robert and the, and the group privately. So it's, um, great to be sharing it with you on your show. That's, I appreciate that so much. Um, it is, man, it is, it's like it starts to make the head hurt. There's so many different things you could, so many different like, I have to ask you, man, how did you begin to discover this stuff? You mentioned to me before we show there was a download of some sort, something that started leading you towards this direction. What, what happened to that you opened yourself up to all this? Because you weren't an astrologer. That's not how you were born. You kind of like just kind of fell into it afterwards. What is your original, I mean, I know you do, you're an artist, and what, where did you start from and how did you fall into this, man? Yeah.
No, it's a really good question and, and it goes quite far back. I will share this part and then I'll share about my sort of, so you could call awakening, so to speak. But, you know, when I was 18, uh, I actually had, and I wonder why people call it a near-death experience because I actually had a death experience, uh, when I was 18. And so, I didn't really understand that at the time of what that, what, what had happened. And it was only really until when I was 33, I had my so-called spiritual awakening, that I could start to understand what had happened in that, in that time. And so essentially, what it was was when I had that experience, I basically went into this white space of where I just heard this voice that said, you know, do you want to go back? And I'm thinking, do I want to go back? I'm thinking, 'cause I didn't realize what happened. You know, obviously I'm out, I'm gone. So I'm like, go back to where? And it's like, oh, like I just dawned on me like, oh, wow. Like, okay, I'm like in the white light. Um, um, like have a choice point, just, it was really unusual. And that's really where it was sort of a, a sense of like, do you want to go back? But, and so I was like, I just thought I had the one thought. As soon as I thought it, instantaneously I was slammed back into my body at like light speed. And I was like, yeah, I want to, straight back into the body, boom. So nothing really happened after that apart from a lot of, go through a lot of pain and trauma. But after my spiritual awakening, then I started to understand going into the inner, inner self, that I started to have visions. It was very shamanic at first. Uh, and then I wanted to learn lots of different modalities. I was, I was just hungry for all of it. You know, like probably most people wanted to learn healing and crystals and trying to figure out like, what is this internal thing I'm experiencing? And over seven, the last seven years, then I actually started to develop my own, uh, modalities and I started to actually help people guiding them through like their own consciousness to help them with healing. And I did a lot of like remote, uh, healing and connections and things like that. So I was very used to guiding people through consciousness. And so when the 8/8 Lionsgate happened, you know, I was just having my normal sort of doing my work and everything else. And this just, this wave of like, stop everything you're doing, and this is going to be the only thing that you need to do for this point for the foreseeable future. And then that's when I started to see this code. I understood, started to really understand the, the I Ching like on, like a real high level. And I was seeing codes after codes that were unraveling, and then geometries, and then the music, and then putting all the astrology connected into it. And that's why I say this book, you don't have to be an expert, you don't have to know all this stuff, like you can learn it so simply because I've translated like how you can learn music in like, you know, one octave and then you're, and then you're set for the, you know, the understanding the basis of music for everything else. And so this is where it's been a, it's been a wild ride, Alex. I mean, this book is, as I said to you, it's 250,000 words in eight months. And off of the back of that, it's been all of the website, all of the artwork. I've got another six or seven courses off the back of this that's, you know, completely different aspects of this. And, you know, it's gone in, taken me into understanding quantum physics and linking that to astrology, learning the human genome. I had to learn literally like one weekend, I was just like, went into the human genome and just crash coursed it. And because this sense of patterns fit in other patterns. Yeah. It, it's actually, it's actually quite easy and you don't need to be an expert and know all of the amino acids and stuff. Even though I went right into all of that detail and DNA sequencing and all of that, but you don't need to know that. It's just that it's all like this binary code. And so once you kind of know one, then it all applies. And so I felt like this book was, like I said, it's this universal consciousness that started to amalgamate from the DNA to the quantum to Hebrew to the Christ stories to everything as one cohesive way to learn really what we should have known up to now. And that's what I say this book is. It's like it's like the update rather than a download. It's like the update of what we should have known up to this point that's going to help us move into that new, new era for us.
I mean, you sound like, uh, John Travolta in that movie called Phenomenon. If you ever seen that movie, if you haven't, you have to. Oh my god, you have to see it now because it's basically exactly what you just said. He's a normal guy and all of a sudden a white light hits him from the sky outside while he's drinking with his buddies, but his buddies are inside. But he comes back and all of a sudden he's able to learn at an obscene amount of of rate. He becomes not only super genius, he's able to then do, he's able to move things with his mind. He's, he's now evolving. His consciousness is growing so rapidly. But he's a small town guy from a small town and people are trying to figure out what the hell's happening. And there's a scene that he's like, uh, there's a girl who fell at a farm and they're rushing to help her, but she's a migrant and only speaks Portuguese. So he takes the book and as they're driving there in the 10-minute drive, he starts learning Portuguese. And at the end, he starts talking to her and he goes, "Did you just learn Portuguese in 10 minutes?" He goes, "Not all of it." You should absolutely rent that movie tonight. Yeah.
No, 100%. But that, but that is so true in a way, and I can see that how you could do that because as I say, once you have a certain number of patterns, then they kind of apply everywhere. And, and so then even if you're not, it's like being, when you're good at sports, you know, like, you know, I was a very good sportsman. And so you apply that to, you go and play any other sport, and you're normally pick it up pretty quick, and you're normally pretty good because there's certain mechanics like in your body, in your perception, your ability, ability to understand how things move in space and time that really, it's like the rules are slightly different, but everything applies. And so that's what I'm saying, like this is where we, we need to update so that everybody has this, everybody has this ability. Uh, and in the book, funny enough, I actually, I actually put in there as something fun as a testament to the, to the Vedic systems because I, I, that's where I started all of that. Um, I put in about the, the eight mystical perfections, which is about where you can, they're like the, the states and when you, you know, through attainment of your consciousness, you know, you unlock these what they call mystical perfections. And so, please, which are the eight perfections? Please. Yeah. So, uh, so they're in the sort of the Vedic names, um, but they're essentially like the, the ability to be like super large, like as large as you want to be. And like, that's an amazing concept to think about that you could be infinitely large. You could be bigger than the solar system. Like, like it's just. And so, you know, the other one is to be like infinitely small. So the, the ability to completely shrink into the size of like an atom or or into the quantum. The other one is to be like super heavy, like that. And, and I had to really think about that one. What benefit would that be to be as heavy as anything I wanted to be? Well, if you were heavier, or as heavy as you could be, you are gravity. You would literally pull, suck the universe towards you. It's magnetism, right? It's like, it's like you would literally would dent time and the fabric of time and space and warp spacetime. Whoa. That's an ability that the yogis were able to do in these states. Like this is like, it's not even, it's not even science fiction. These are things that are natural occurrences that happen when we tap into, like you said, like these genius genes, these universal abilities, because we, we are part, we are part of that universe, or we are that universe. And so then we understand these universal laws. And so the other ones are, um, the ability to acquire and obtain anything. I mean, could you imagine the responsibility, the secret, the secret, if you will, the law of attraction? I think it was, I think it's more like, I think it's a bit higher than the secret level. I think a little bit, a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Just a bit. Uh, and, and so, but the thing is, yogis have had these powers, like, um, I think it's, um, I can't remember which one, which yogi it was now, but he used to go into the river and he could just pull out like rupees, like thousands of rupees. And, and so it's like he says, oh, yeah, he goes underneath the tree and just pulls out gold coins. It's like, because you, it's this level. And so I use them as ways to help us understand, like, and break our own limitations of what we think is possible. And so you can use them as a way of like using that meditation. Think about like being huge, like as big as you want to be, or being small, or being able to acquire. If you could manifest anything instantly, think about the responsibility and the accountability you would need to hold that amount of wisdom because whatever you do then affects the whole on a huge level, you know. So these are the ways in which you, we can expand our consciousness. Um, I think the other one is like a Jedi mind trick as well. It's, it's the ability to influence anybody at any time. So again, think about that's why you know, there is controversial understandings of of yogis and things and people have had really bad, uh, experiences with with gurus and things, which I think is a shame because I feel like actually we really do need mentors and people to help us understand these things because sometimes they are way bigger than what we've ever encountered before. And so, but this understanding of being able to influence somebody so strongly that you could make them feel a certain way or make them do certain things, you know, is that Jedi mind trick. And so with great power comes great responsibility, right? And so it's that's what's beautiful about this is it's, it's giving us the power back saying, okay, like, you want to go into that higher level of consciousness, here's all the gifts of a yogi. Like, how will you keep the balance of life of the universe and the best interests of all beings? Like, even just contemplating that is like, wow, this is what my life can be about that, that sort of level of, of understanding.
So now it's also, it's very, I mean, when you're talking about these attainments, um, you're, you're describing Baba G. Baba G has the great Baba Gi, the yogi who apparently is still alive, still, um, walking the universe, walking the planet, helping humanity. But I'm fascinated. Everyone who knows watches the show, I'm fascinated with yogi, yogic philosophy, yogic, um, attainment and, and that path, the Vedic path, if you will. And, uh, it is, it is something that we all do. So I keep saying, well, Jesus was a great yogi. Even in India, they consider Jesus a great yogi because a lot of the stuff he was talking about, he manifested, you know, loaves of bread. He turned water into wine. He walked on water. The, I mean, these are all yogic powers. You know, these are these very, very similar yogic powers. But the ability when you get into the cosmic, and now we're going to go deep, deeper than we're already at. But if, when you go into the, into the cosmic or the astral, the idea of, um, being heaviest thing you ever wanted to be and being able to be essentially gravity and pull things towards you. I mean, we're walking into the world of Neo in the Matrix, which I, I bring up constantly because essentially that's what that was. I mean, if you look at the, that trilogy and towards the end, it became so, he became so powerful and then Smith, the opposing balancing force, negative, was so powerful, but he was literally tapped into the code. It was just so remarkable. But that's, that's what we're talking about in many ways. It's, it's cool to start contemplating all this kind of stuff. Yeah.
And, and yeah. And so, so going to the Vedic's, uh, essence, you know, my, my greatest love is really, it's about the study of consciousness. You know, like all of these things that we, that we're doing, like with astrology and, you know, numbers and colors and geometry, they're all like our, our things to play with and work with responsibly, you know, and it's what, it's the things that we can learn things, the everythingness, you know, of that in, in those parts. But my love is, is really the true essence of what consciousness is. And I think because I did a load of work through studying all of the Vedic texts, going through unlocking different chakra systems. I mean, I even created a whole, uh, modality which was about unlocking even more chakras. So I found out way more chakra system parts of the chakra system that have been spoken of, um, through the ancient tantric texts. And so going through those processes myself and, and many hours of like just sitting in meditation, trying that out, trying all different things, once we move into that, the creation is, is the fun part. It's the hologram that we can play in and work with, you know, and that's where the, the binary code is. But really consciousness is, is prior to, you know, and so that's really where we reside. And so when you, again, when that element of ether, when you can move into the world of things, but from that space of spaciousness, emptiness, or all thingsness, you know, or nothingness, then you move through the, the world and understand the world as a, as a whole, as a connected thing. And, you know, we realize that we're, it's not, you know, nothing is an ending. It's just a different evolution. And those, you know, age-old wisdoms become very true to how you experience reality. And that's, that's that step deeper than creation. You know, we're speaking about things, you know, like what does your astrological sign mean? They're all gateways to discovering yourself as consciousness. And so that's the deeper part of astrology. If you can go really into it, everything else dissolves and you, you can start to really experience yourself, you know, in that space.
What I've noticed from the people I've spoken to on the show so far and I've had the pleasure of meeting is that when they start to open up their minds to higher concepts, to higher ideas, um, to downloads, if you will, it's in direct relation to their consciousness evolving at the same time. Generally, even even scientific people, even people in, in math, you know, mathematicians, scientists, people very grounded in the material, you look at Einstein, and Einstein was playing music. He discovered, essentially, he went so deep into the makeup of the universe, he's like, well, this can't be by accident. There has to be an organizing consciousness behind all of this because it's like this, it can't be random. It's too perfect for it to be random. These ideas, I think that that combination of awakening, which like you did, had this kind of spiritual awakening and understanding of things, opens up. Look, I don't know if I've had a spiritual awakening or not. I truly don't. But I can tell you one thing. I failed science in high school and I knew nothing about it, and yet I'm able to have conversations with you, with Robert, with quantum physicists, with rocket scientists, and I'm able to hold my own, you know, talking to them and having a very deep conversation with them. And it fascinates me to, to what I'm doing at my level, you know, nowhere near what you're doing or what you're trying to do, but it's interesting how that combination of where my consciousness has evolved to now, very different than I was five years ago. Oh my god, like astronomically different than where I was five years ago. Um, and I'll be astronomically different five years from now than where I am right now. So, I'm just trying to make the point of consciousness has to rise for the information to be released or the understanding to be opened. Does that make any sense to you? Yeah, completely.
And, you know, and don't get me wrong, Alex, you know, for me, like, if you were to look at my school grades of math, it was like, yeah, it was average, right? It was average. But the, the thing is, is that once we find languages that really connect, then it's amazing how, how we blossom so fast. And that's what I say about, you know, children understanding stories, they understand archetypal consciousness like at a rate of knots. And that's why they love films and they want to rewatch films because it's like they're trying to process all of those nuances so they can be more so socially connected, you know. And so the same thing goes with this. Once you find your languages or your, your path or your, you know, your beliefs or whatever it is that you want to go into, wow, if that, when that hits, it's like boom, and everything starts moving into higher, higher things quite, quite rapidly.
One thing I would say what I found with the I Ching, which should be really interesting, what you said about the organizing principle, this is kind of an interesting concept as you move into that quantum field, is that at the bigger the bandwidth, the bigger the processor, the ability to process that, the amount of data, it actually becomes self-organizing. And it does this through error correction codes. Now, this can be, it's like slightly like technical, but slightly expansive as well. And so data, when it's transferred from one thing to another, what a lot of people don't really realize is that actually tagged on the end of them are what they call error correction codes. So if you have like, uh, so like "The Lost Octave," there's eight, uh, gates, and when you tag them to eight lots of eight, which is 64, each one of those master gates becomes the error correction code. And this is where it starts to self-organize because the harmonics are perfect. There's no more dissonance because the bandwidth is, is working efficiently. And so in terms of number frequency, we can see this because the I Ching is 64 hexagrams times six lines, it gives us 384 archetypes. Well, when we add in "The Lost Octave," 72 times six lines, we end up with the number 432. Well, if you know anything about numbers and frequencies, 432 is the harmonics of the Earth. It's the measurements of the Great Pyramid. It's everywhere. It is like the number of our natural reality. And so interesting that "The Lost Octave" has come in as this octave as an error correction code to pull the collective archetypes to be at the resonance of Mother Earth. Like, these things are amazing. And so that's why I think that as we, as you're right, as we expand our consciousness, you know, we actually start to, everything becomes self-organizing. It's not so much about trying to control things and learn things. It just naturally unfolds and blossoms. And in a way, like I think one of the great sages, you know, says, life takes care of life. Like all we have to do is just move into that which is already available. And that's why it will, it will feel like we've moved into genius genes or or expanded exponentially. But really, we're, we're moving into what we, what we are, what we should have always been. You know what? But that's the joy of this, this Aquarian age, Pisces to Aquarian age, we get the joy to, to be the first to do it.
Now, Rob, I'm going to ask you a few questions I ask all my guests. Sir, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life? I would say it comes down to asking.
Your time to ask the right question to yourself because that is the only place that you are going to authentically value the answer that comes, and that answer that comes then becomes the fulfillment to which you live your life by and through. Gorgeous answer, beautiful answer.
If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Rob, what advice would you give him? I don't know about advice. I would have given him I would have given him this book. You can't read this yet. You can't read this yet. You're five. But you will eventually when you can enjoy it. Yeah. Just look at the pictures and you you'll get it. No, I I think the best advice is to say that you know like follow the the very thing that you love like that will that will put you where you want to be. Don't do what you feel like you should have done what you should do or what other people feel you should do. Is that you know, be yourself, follow your heart, and everything will blossom exactly how it's meant to.
What is your definition of God or source? Well, I think to define it, not to sound cheesy, but to define it would then limit it. I think it's just that intimate, intimate knowingness that it is present, and it is it is in essence who you are. And I think in that knowing, you can you can move forward with with joy. You know, knowing that that there isn't there isn't any distance between you and that.
What is love? I think there's the love of creation and all the things that can be created, and then there's the love of the creator itself. And so I think that when those two marry as one unified viewpoint through through human eyes, then then that's when you start to understand that everybody else is is experiencing the same thing you are from that view. And therefore, you know, we really are this the compassion and love can be can be shared, you know, in this in this human realm, which we need.
And what is the ultimate purpose of life? Purpose of life is is the purpose that you want what you wish to choose. If you want to make it something and you want it to be that, then choose that wholeheartedly, and then that really becomes your purpose. You get to choose that purpose, and it's in your power right now today.
Now, where can people find out more about you and your new book that is coming out or has come out as of the release of this episode? Yeah, so just on the the lost octave.com. Um, on there I've actually got some free resources you can get up to speed because there's so much information. Um, you can get up to speed about looking at the deacons and your astrology. Um, and on there it's got a link to order the book, um, and and connect on there. And then of course on social media, you can just on Instagram, it can just be uh Robert James Comber on Instagram. You can follow me on there and and keep up to date with everything that's going forwards. Um, so yeah, lots of lots of great stuff.
And do you have any parting messages for the audience? Yeah, I would just say that we are moving through tremendous amazing times, and you know, often that can feel like we're everything's falling apart, but knowing the stars and the star law of our story that we're moving through, everything is actually falling together. We're just yet to see that unfold. And so I would say that this is meant to this is meant to happen. It's written in the stars this way. And just as we can if we can learn more about ourselves through things like this, then that will really it will really change your life and how you interact and understand other people and other people's opinions and their journey. And I think when that comes together, that's when we find this harmonic between, you know, between beings, which we we really need this one family to realize that we are we are connected.
Rob, it has been such a pleasure, man. And I look forward to our next conversation. I know we have just scratched the surface of this of of these new findings and of astrology and everything that you and and Robert and all these guys are doing uh to bring this information out to the world. So, I appreciate you for helping awaken the planet in your way, my friend, and your part in this lore, this story that we are all going through. So, thank you, my friend.
Thank you so much, Alex, for everything that you're doing and for having me on the show. It's been a Yeah, it's been so great to chat to you and and really go into this uh on some great cosmic levels.
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