Happening Now with Pastor Jack Hibbs and Charlie Kirk - A Christian or Pagan Nation

My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country, Turning Point USA.

Charlie Kirk is the founder and CEO of Turning Point USA and the author of the new book, "The College Scam."

Political organizer Charlie Kirk drawing a big crowd at Cal State Northridge today, both supporters and protesters.

"Our own Founders spoke negatively about democracy in our Federalist Papers because God wrote this on the human heart of every individual, as that says in the Book of Romans. We know deep down it's wrong to murder a baby. In our Scriptures, it does say that we should bless the Jews. Genesis 12:3: 'I will bless those descendants that bless me.' And we have a covenant with Israel. 66 different books all came to the same conclusion that God loves us so much that he sent his son on a rescue mission to save us from our broken nature, that we live forever."

I'm Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA. I talk to a lot of young people on campuses, at our events, on my radio show, podcast, and social media. We at Turning Point Action are trying to figure out how we need to turn supporters into voters. By the way, anyone out there, you guys should get involved with Turning Point USA. We are moving the dial. We are bringing this generation to the finish line to be a conservative generation.

"I, I got to tell you, I'm a little bit jealous. You have the entire House of Representatives denouncing you. How did you get to be so lucky?"

"It is just a delicious ending. We as Christians are called to go into the public arena to correct error with truth."

Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, give a warm welcome tonight to Charlie Kirk. Oh, you can be seated. Awesome. Well, Charlie, welcome again. But I, uh, I kind of assume a little bit that this might be SoCal home for you, huh?

Oh, I, I first, I love being here. Uh, and it has been quite a journey these last couple of years. Last time I was in California, I was on your Governor's podcast. So.

Oh, man, did you? How many of you saw? Oh, look at that. Yep. That, that's, that's a lot. That's a lot of ratings for him. That's a lot, lot of yes, yes. But wait, can I do something, Charlie? Now, Jack, Jack, you're doing it all. How? Oh, that's it. And then what did the, what do you think those meant? Was like, "Steel home" or "slide"? Did you guys, if you saw it, do you know where we're talking about? Quite amazing. If you did not see that podcast, you've got to see it. But don't watch it at, uh, have Newsome's site. Charlie Kirk Show podcast page. Don't give him the, don't give him the downloads. There you go. There you go.

Okay, let's jump right into this. The scriptures tell us in First Peter that we are to be ready to always give an answer to those who ask of us a reason for the hope that we have, and we're to respond to them with respect and, um, with courtesy. And God has anointed you to not only be a king intellect but to be a, a, a, a warrior of faith that Charlie we've not seen in the American landscape in a long time. And this is a very special thing that God has given you. And so, what I'd like to ask you to get things going first is to explain to us, um, what you're seeing, and maybe why you're seeing, and what are you seeing on the university campuses where you show up and tens of thousands of people gather? What is going on?

It's, it's remarkable. And first of all, glory be to God. Uh, truly, that first and foremost. And Jack, you've been a phenomenal teacher for me and mentor for me. Isn't Jack the best? He's just unbelievable to give me that confidence and that clarity to go into the lion's den and go to college campuses all across the country. Let's kind of go back and talk about what we saw during the election. And let's go even further back than that. We did a happening now. Everybody, some of you might have been there on January 21st, 2021. That was the day after Biden got installed as president of the United States. And we're going to go back to that later in the discussion because I think there's a really beautiful lesson there. But after we were displaced from power at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action, we, we thought, and our hypothesis was, what if we did everything we possibly can through digital, social media, campus outreach to try to turn this generation away from a predominantly left-wing one into the most conservative generation in American history? It's quite a statement, quite an ambitious plan. And we went about doing it. And for years, people thought that we were wasting our time, that it was not a good use of our energy or resources. And as you know, I, I visited hundreds of college campuses. Turning Point USA was doing the difficult work every single day, starting high school chapters, starting college chapters. I think we have some of our, uh, Turning Point leaders here tonight. And as we continue to do that work, we started to realize a trend in late 2022 and early 2023. We saw the crowds get a little bit bigger. And we saw an attitude, especially of young men, that wanted nothing to do with the Democrat Party and were increasingly open towards President Trump, conservatism, Republican party, and yes, even Christianity.

And so we said, "Wait a second." The conventional wisdom when you run a political campaign is you always just run to the middle, you run to the moderates, and you try to water down your positions because you need to go win over swing voters. That can work, or you can create more voters and find more voters that are already people that are in your criteria. Because one out of three Americans don't vote at all. And what if we find those people and register them to vote and bring them into our ecosystem and bring them into our ranks? And so we went about the most ambitious youth outreach program in the history of conservative politics, in the history of Republican politics. And I, I personally visited well over a 100 campuses over a course of a year. Many of you saw these videos that I would do online where I would try to enlighten the next generation about certain topics, ideas, whatever was on their mind. And these videos had over two and a half billion views over nine months on TikTok, on Instagram, on YouTube. Praise the Lord. And all of a sudden, these crowds went from a couple hundred people to 3,000 people to 4,000. And we're talking in the middle of the day on a college campus, in some of the most liberal campuses across the country, 4,000, 5,000, 6,000 people. And the media was completely ignoring it. And I was like, "That's fine. Don't, if you don't want to adjust. And if you guys want to just ignore the greatest, most substantial, unexpected generational realignment happening in the history of American politics, go ahead and ignore it."

And the results and the data started to come in. And can we all just enjoy for a second that beautiful evening in November when President Trump won back the White House? It was the, the Stacy Brothers said it to me earlier, great family. They said the air just tasted better the next morning, right? Yeah. Your food had taste again. It was the, the music made sense on the radio. Everything was just tasted sweeter.

What's amazing about what you just said, if people don't understand this, the scripture says in Proverbs 29, that when the wicked are in power, the people groan. It's a blanket of, of depression, it's a blanket of hopelessness. But that verse goes on to say, "But when the righteous are in power, people rejoice." And, and here's the thing. People would say, "Oh my goodness, wait a minute. What, how could that possibly be applied to politics?" Don't worry about it. We're not saying that Donald Trump is righteous or any other leader is righteous in the sense that you might be thinking. The word simply means that those who do the right thing. The response is people are, are light-hearted. They're, the weight is lifted from them. And, and you're watching right now, or even today, we saw in the news where Trump is moving now to defund Planned Parenthood. Babies, babies will be saved. So, major news.

And so, just to summarize it, we saw the results come in. And all of a sudden, the exit poll showed that younger voters moved substantially to the right. So much so that all Kamala Harris had to do was perform the same with younger voters as Joe Biden did in 2020. And I'm going to say some things here that are very hopeful, but also should give some people in this audience a little bit of a dose of generational humility. Do you know that your 20-year-old grandson is far more conservative than your average 75-year-old? Yes. It's far more, and it's not even close. A young man is like 10 points more conservative than your average 75-year-old white voter. There's many reasons for this. And by the way, some people get offended. Some Baby Boomers say, "No, that's not true." You guys should be rejoicing in the fact that the next generation is even more conservative than the older generation. So don't get too defensive. But let's talk about why this is. And then I'm going to go into some numbers. The why is critical. These young people here in front of you are one of the most abused generations, if not the most abused generation in history. We masked them unnecessarily, told them to get an experimental mRNA shot that they did not need. We canceled prom and graduation, locked them into their homes away from all of their peers. We printed trillions of dollars we did not need and flooded the housing market with it, nearly doubling housing prices. We told them to go into debt to study things that don't matter to find jobs that don't exist, to only flood them further into our cities filled with homelessness, vagrancy, arson, crime, all to say, "Hey, it's okay that you will not own anything. You will rent for the rest of your life, and you will be happy doing substances, staying drunk, ordering DoorDash, and keep on voting for the Democrat Party because that's all there is in life. And don't get married, just become some sort of corporate hack for a faceless company. Don't have kids, but get a bunch of cats."

"I am a Democrat and I approve this message."

And let me go a step further. This generation here is the first generation in history that is not keeping on pace with their parents. Not even the Great Depression generation, the Greatest Generation, can say that. Every number shows that this generation is more suicidal, they're more drug-addictive, they're more anxious, they're more addicted to pharmacological substances, they're more addicted to screens. They have less friends, less likely to date, less likely to have kids. We have a childless problem in the West where we are having a population collapse. Meanwhile, Baby Boomers, many of you have seen your wealth actually go up since COVID. Your houses are worth more, your 401k is worth more. You might say, "Well, inflation is crushing me." It might be hurting you if you're 60 or 70. But if you own a home, you have something that most young people will never have. If you own stocks, and you don't, you're not $50, $60, $70,000 in debt, you have something that your, the next generation is not going to have. It is a breakdown of the social compact.

And what President Trump embodied was a full-throated cultural rebellion against all the institutions of power that robbed their future, that robbed their future and lied to them in every corner. And what we were able to do, alongside the Trump campaign at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action, is make the case that the next generation deserves the same country that your parents had. And that these institutions that Kamala Harris largely embodied are not worthy of your trust. That it is not worthy of your trust. The very same people that want to go spend $300 billion on a war in Ukraine while we're being invaded on our Southern border should not be taken seriously when they want to continue to ask for more of our tax money. They should not be taken seriously.

And so politically, we are living through this realignment where the younger you are, especially a younger male, the more conservative you are. And the Democrat Party has said this, Ezra Klein and David Shore, two very sophisticated lefties. This is potentially, everybody, an extinction event for the Democrat Party. This could turn, if this continues, this could turn California into a red state. And I'm not saying that, I'm not kidding. If you think about it, we have done pretty well in elections the last 20 or 30 years under the idea that the younger you are, the more liberal you are, and the older you are, the more conservative you are. Imagine if that all of a sudden gets inverted. That if they start pretty conservative when they're 19, how conservative they'll be when they're 30, when they own a home and they have kids. They will become even more conservative and resisting of whatever left-wing lie or promise of the Democrat Party.

And so, to play this out even further, when we are now visiting these college campuses, we are noticing that especially young men are gravitating towards this broader cultural realignment. But it is at its core spiritual. And, and that is why I love what Jack talks about, because this is not just about politics. Politics is a means to an end so that we can live in a free society for liberty. Because liberty is not man's idea, it is God's idea. And God wants us to live free. John 10:10: "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." We see right now that the Democrat Party is the embodiment of every ancient pagan idea that the Bible was written to refute. And that we, we challenge all throughout the scriptures. Christianity believes in all, all of the ideas that we are espousing on these college campuses. And so my message right now is that I think we are on the precipice of a national revival, led primarily by young people. And you know what happened in Costa Mesa, as you mentioned, it is bottom-up. It is the kids that lead these national revivals, right? But here is my fear. My fear is that most of the American church is completely uninterested. That's right. In this moment. That's right. And let me build this out further, if that's okay, Jack.

Absolutely. Why is it that young men are leading the church? By the way, we should be so pleased that it's young men, because young men will lead the culture, and the women will follow. Okay? It is a great sign. There are many reasons for this. But the primary one is that God made men and women different. We know that. And in the state of nature, young men don't like taking orders from women. Now, you can laugh about that, but every single mom knows this is a serious problem. No, it is. And by the way, it's not, it's, it's a laughing matter. But single moms, God bless them, you're modern-day heroes. You deserve better than a husband that abandoned you or a partner that abandoned you. But when you have a teenage son, it is very hard to discipline a 17-year-old boy if you just have a mom in the house. That's why dads need to come in to restore order and structure and discipline, because moms struggle with that. Okay? Well, politics is the administration of order and discipline. That's right. It is rules for life. So the Democrat Party has become toxically feminine. Now, understand my heart when I say this. That I'm not saying that all women are necessarily toxic. I'm saying though, Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris, not exactly great embodiments of biblical femininity, right? More like Jezebel than Esther. Cool. Got it. So the Democrat Party of the last three nominees, two of the three of them were toxically feminine, and one was, uh, Comos, right? So not exactly a sign of strength. Understand that. What is so exciting about our political moment, everybody, is that we are so race-obsessed over the last five years. It drives me nuts. I'm sick and tired of looking at black and white. That doesn't mean anything to God. But do you know a distinction that God actually does care about? Male-female distinctions. Actually, God does care about, 'cause he designed them, right? And our politics are increasingly gravitating towards male-female distinctions, a lot less than white-black distinctions. That this is why you are seeing the muscular class of young Hispanics and young blacks come more to the Republican party, because they don't want to take orders from a political party that is screeching at them, filled with unhappy women. It's not a popular agenda. And what these, these are individuals that live in the Democrat Party primarily to try and tell you what to do and how to do it. It's even worse than that. They will go to young men and say that you are the problem for merely existing. Yes, that you are a toxic man, that you can't use those pronouns, that you have to stop being so politically correct, that you have to apologize for your existence, that it's toxic masculinity, that we have all these problems. And then what you end up having is a 20-year-old, he decided not to go to college, so he's not in debt. He's not being indoctrinated, but he's driving Amazon trucks to just make ends meet. He's the one that made sure you got all of your delivery packages, by the way, during COVID. He's the one that showers before work and showers after work. And everyone is talking about the Democrat Party about climate change and threat to democracy and, you know, the boss babe culture. By the way, I educated Jack on what a boss babe was today, just so you know. He had no idea, right? And this 20-year-old Amazon truck driver scrolls through his TikTok feed and sees a Matt Walsh video or a Charlie Kirk video, and it's talking about how men need to be men and restore order to society. And it doesn't matter that that guy's last name is Sanchez or that he's black driving the truck. He says, "You know what? The Democrat Party doesn't represent me. And I stand with the person that the toxically feminists hate the most, Donald Trump, because he's the alpha male that stands in the way of all of their plans."

So it's amazing to, uh, as Charlie was speaking, uh, when you look back, somebody might say, "Well, wow, this is, this is amazing, or this is terrible. How can this be going on?" Well, let me give you a little bit of a quick American, uh, history lesson. If you would take tonight and go back 270 years ago, this would be normal. If you've ever read or, uh, taken the time to look at the sermons of the colonial pastors and preachers of that era, this is exactly what they talked about when it came to the issues of everyday life and the things that the culture was having to battle. And so the scriptures, as I read a moment ago, speaks truth to all issues. When somebody says, and we hear it all the time, that Christians shouldn't get involved in, in politics, well, notice who's saying that. The people that are saying that are people who don't want any competition regarding their ideas. Someone's idea is going to win the day, and it most often happens when someone shows up to the fight, so to speak, right? If you don't engage, someone will. And there is no real void, because voids are always filled. So the, the woke ideology would say, "You guys need to keep your mouth shut, sit down, don't vote, and do your little Christian thing on Sunday. Just stay out of the way." After all, it is politics, you know, and there's a wall of separation there. So we got it from here. Isn't it amazing? We all pay the same taxes. The Democrat, the Republican pays the taxes, but the Democrat says they're the only ones that are qualified to have a voice to the issue. Think about that. Well, what about Christians? Do Christians pay taxes? I bet you Christians pay taxes more than most people because they're more honest about it. Don't we have a voice? Our founding fathers said, "Yes, you do." And so it's always volatile, and it's designed this way for every culture in every moment, just like tonight, to go and hit the issues face on, head on, because this is exactly what's happening in our culture today, where our kids are no longer learning the things that they need or they should be learning in universities and in high schools. Instead, they're being indoctrinated with political ideologies that you're paying the professor instead of teaching your kid medicine, they're telling your kid about Trump or about this or about the other, or conservatives. And people, if we don't speak up, this is going to continue. Thank God that people are speaking up and things are happening. Young people have a voice now. And this voice, I'd love for you to tell us the, I don't know how else to say it, the TikTok generation, how the vote, the recent vote was affected so much by this.

Yeah. And so this is a great example of something that the enemy was going to use for evil, and we used for good. Uh, I've never, I was never a fan of TikTok at all. I actually wanted to see it banned. But I also saw its incredible power. And so Congress passed a bill to ban it. I sent out a tweet saying, "Hey, TikTok, if you guys are really for free speech, can you let me speak? Because you guys have banned me 25 times in the last week." And they reached out. They were really pleasant. Yep. We're all for free speech. We're going to give you a fair hearing. And boy, did we take advantage of that. And here's the key, everybody. And the Democrat Party unintentionally misread how people are consuming information now. Understand what is the other difference between a 20-year-old man who ends up being more conservative than his 75-year-old grandfather? Well, the 75-year-old grandfather is probably getting news from either the newspaper or from ABC or NBC or cable news, or the white noise machine, which is, I call cable news, is just kind of drones on. Whereas his 20-year-old grandson is getting news from Instagram, TikTok, X, YouTube. Now, which one will actually lead you to be more conservative? Well, it used to be that it would be, if you were watching cable news, you'd get more conservative. No, no, no. Now, because when we had our back against the wall, when Joe Biden became president, and it looked as if our country was dead and over, a new generation of truth-tellers rose up. We built platforms, we got creative, we built an audience, we dug in, we understood what people wanted, and we pursued truth, no matter the cost. And not all of us were Christians, but some were, like Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan was big. But remember during COVID, he stood up for Ivermectin, and CNN changed the color of his skin and slandered him. A radicalizing event. Joe Rogan, people like Russell Brand, people like Matt Walsh, people like Theo. People you might not know who these individuals are if you don't. That's okay. But let me tell you, just the ones I just mentioned have a much greater combined daily audience than what CNN will get in an entire year. And if you remove how people watch CNN in airports, it would be what CNN has for the last 20 years, right? And so the way people are consuming information is completely different. And I also tell this for churches, and Jack is on the cutting edge of this with Real Life and with what he's doing with Jack Hibbs' podcast, is that it's not enough just to buy radio time for your ministry anymore to reach the next generation. It's in 20 or 30-second sound bites. They're receiving it on social media. So this election, the Democrat Party, they took for granted black voters, Hispanics, and younger voters. They said, "No way will this, this, these groups ever leave us. No way will they ever walk away from the hold that we have on them." Well, you know what ended up happening? Younger voters moved 13 points in President Trump's direction. 13 points. The greatest move of any generation. Where Baby Boomers, they actually moved two points in Kamala Harris's direction. Baby Boomers are becoming more democratic. Now, let me tell you another reason as to why this is. And I see this all the time. An average 75 or 80-year-old voter, not everyone in this audience, this is general, okay? Are high trust of institutions. They will, they don't love the talk of, "Hey, our FBI, our CIA, our CDC, our FDA, Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, Eli Lilly, big food, big soda, they're all poisoning us, lying to us, and they're all working together to make us sicker, less happy, and more depressed." That message for a 75-year-old voter, they say, "No, no, hold on. No, no, no, no, no." They say, "Wait. They, they can't take it." And by the way, I'm offending when I'm saying this. I don't mean to offend you. It's just the truth. The, the data shows this, okay? They will say, "No, no, maybe we need some reform, but come on, you're trying to tell me that we're poisoning our kids? We're a great country. We'd never do that. Go take the vaccine." No, no. You laugh, but the older you are, still, you think that there's nothing wrong with the COVID shot, okay? The older you are. So 75 plus, over 80% of people over 75 think there's nothing wrong with this COVID shot. Mhm. Okay. If you go down to like 40-year-olds, like 70% think there's something wrong with the COVID shot. You go down to like 25-year-olds, like 80% are like, "This thing is actively giving us myocarditis and pericarditis, and kids are dropping dead, and we got blood clots." However, the older you are, you almost create a veil. I don't want to say of ignorance. It sounds mean, but it really is a veil of blindness where it's like they grew up in a country, Baby Boomers, that was a great country, and they almost look at our institutions as an extension of the greatness that they were raised in. And when you start listing, you know, listing off our military is broken and woke, and we can't land airplanes anymore, and we have DEI throughout air traffic control, and our border is wide open, it's almost like institutional sensory overload. Yeah. And then they turn on CNN because, like, "Okay, it makes me feel better because they actually, maybe the world is not falling apart." And it's okay. Whereas a 20-year-old says, "No, it's, it's even worse than that. I can't own anything. I'm in debt. And we need a revolution." Older voters are actually very reluctant to revolutionary talk.

Charlie, one thing, and I think you touched it, you mentioned it without saying this word. The older you get, now I believe this is without Jesus. If this should not be happening to an older person, if you have Jesus. And that is fear. When you get older, the Book of Proverbs warns us that we, as we get older, we, we tremble and we're fearful. The Proverbs tell us about in Ecclesiastes as well, that we, we hear the cricket, crick at night, and we're wondering what that was. When you get older, you don't want any changes. Keep it the same. And then to think about what Charlie just said, it's almost like, "Wait a minute. You're telling me that I paid into these institutions for all of these decades of my life, and you're telling me they're broken?" That scares me. And I can't handle that.

Look, you guys, we never, whatever you think about Donald Trump, think about Donald Trump. But there's one thing we all have to agree on. We didn't even know that there was a swamp. We didn't even know that there was a deep state. None of us knew this until this guy comes along and says, "There's a deep state." And we're going, "What a nut. What is he talking about?" And it was true. And all of this stuff, you know, it's bizarre, isn't it? That if you were God, and you're going to pick somebody to restore or return, watch this, to return a nation back to its origin or its roots, watch this. Have you read your Bibles? God used some of the strangest people to bring Israel back to its roots. I wouldn't have picked Samson, right? Listen, David, a murderer. The, the crazy chariot driver with the wild hair. But you know what's amazing, you guys? If you know your scripture, and it's so great to know your scripture, because you get to live every day viewing news, viewing everything through the lens of scripture. You, you don't have to be ruffled about anything. Here's what's fun about being a believer who knows their Bible at a time like this. When you look around, I'm immediately reminded, as we're all reading through the Old Testament right now at this time of the year, through, through the scriptures, I'm reminded that how God used King Josiah is how God's using Donald Trump in this cabinet. See, what do you mean by that? Josiah comes along and says, "We got to get back to the Bible." Guess what Trump has said numerous times? "We got to get back to the Bible." You know, he said that. I remember being in a room when he walked in. We were in, uh, Miami. He walks into a room, there's about 25 pastors in the room. Trump walks in and says, he doesn't even say, "Hi, how you doing? Did you like your dinner?" Trump walks in and says, "All you have to do is give them the Bible." Trump said that. You say, "Well, I don't know. I don't like Trump." Forget about that. What he said was true. Okay? And then he comes along and like Josiah, Josiah says, "We need to tear down these pagan worship centers." Did you know Josiah did that? He said, "For Israel to get back to pleasing to God, we had to tear down these worship centers of paganism." Guess what those worship centers of paganism? Guess what the altar was? The altar was the offering up of of newborn children. In King Josiah's day, Josiah said, "Destroy all of that." Josiah said, "I want all the men to be armed, and we need to build the walls and border our kingdom from the enemy. Build walls." You guys, when you look at your Old Testament, you may not have been a friend of Josiah. He may have had hair or not, I don't know what the guy looked like. You may not have personally liked him, but his policies made you safer. And then surrounding nations of Israel and Judah, they were very, very hesitant to mess with Israel during the days of Judah, of Josiah the king. Listen, right now, nations are taking a second thought as to what they would do with the United States right now. And that's a good thing. Ladies and gentlemen, um, when you have nations having to think about America again before they do any business or what they decide to do to Israel, because America might step in. This is, this is a good day. And this is called politics, because it is the execution, and at least in this republic, of the will of the people. You and I are sitting in the most unique experiment in the history of man. We live in a republic. Stop listening to the word democracy. That's all you hear, but that's not what we live in. We live in a constitutional republic, which means for the first time in human history, for these last 250 years, it's "We the People" will decide what we will do with this nation. And, and when the Constitution is being upheld, as it is right now, and then you got the other team saying, "We've got to stop this. We've got to stop this. It's unconstitutional." They don't even know the Constitution. Something's going on right now with Pam Bondi. It's pretty amazing. You'll read about it soon. It's purely in fact. They dug back, they found, and not only is this constitutional, but a law was made back in 2001, and we're going to do it. And people are, people are going to freak out. They're going to freak out and say, "You can't do that." Oh, that was made law in 2001 after 9/11, and it is very constitutional as well. But if you don't know what you have, then you don't know how to defend what you have in your hand, and you can easily lose it if you don't know it. So as believers, we need to vote. We need to shine the light. We need to get involved. Some of you need to run for office. I, I, I totally agree.

And what one last generational note, which I think is important, is that there is, basically, four voting generations right now. There's Gen Z, which is the youngest, Millennials, Gen X, and then Baby Boomers. And then there is the Silent Generation, but it's very small. So, of all four, the one that wildly went to the right, in addition to Gen Z, was Gen X. Now, where are my Gen Xers at? You, you guys are like scary right-wing. And I mean, but let me explain why you, you might say, "Well, why is Gen X?" By the way, it's 25 points more Republican than Boomers, and they're younger. But why? It's, and by the way, they moved almost 20 points more Republican since 2020. It's because they have kids in school and see what's happening in the culture war up close and personal. And it's this remarkable thing. So Millennials, which I am one, and Boomers are kind of tied together because I am the, a, a, a son of the Boomers. Gen Z is largely sons and daughters of Gen X. And so they almost move as a block. They, Gen X and Gen Z suffered the most during COVID. Their parents that saw their kids suffer miserably. They were in the workforce or all of a sudden their workplaces were shut down, and they went all remote. It was the, it was the most disruption. And so if you look at the leading indicator, Gen Z keeps going this way. Gen X keeps on going this way. Very, very exciting things are coming, coming ahead. That's awesome.

So this cabinet that is in power right now, this cabinet that is being formed, uh, and still being assembled, by the way, uh, in some degree, where for me, it's not going to be settled until my, uh, cabinet is, uh, is passed through, uh, his confirmation hearings. But Charlie, explain this. Uh, Governor Huckabee is getting hit really hard, uh, because he's Trump's appointment as ambassador to Israel, and they've been dragging it out, and there's been protesting going on. And I just, in fact, I was on a, I was on Jenna Ellis's show this morning talking about this very thing. And, um, this is who's against Governor Mike Huckabee being the ambassador of the United States to Israel. Are you ready? The Council on American Islamic Relations, CAIR. They are furious that Trump is considering, Trump wants Huckabee. Why? He's a born-again, Bible-believing Christian. He's even an ordained pastor, and he loves Israel, and he's made something like 30 trips to Israel. He's obviously, by and so CAIR wants him to be removed from this position. The Muslim Brotherhood, they don't want Mike Huckabee to be the ambassador to Israel. I want you to think about this for a moment. The Democrat Party, if you're a Democrat, you do not want Mike Huckabee to be the ambassador to Israel. Interesting. Also, this extremely bizarre liberal rabbis and Jews do not want Mike Huckabee. You know what all of their answer was? Same answer. He's too pro-Bible. He's pro-Jesus. He has an overwhelming bias in his heart for Israel. Thus, he cannot be the ambassador to, ambassador to Israel. I know this might come as a shock, but he's not going to be the ambassador for the Muslim Brotherhood. He's not going to be the ambassador for CAIR. He's not going to be the ambassador to Pakistan or to Iran. It's Israel. Trump is actually appointing exactly the right guy for the job, but he's getting so much resistance. But Charlie, talk a little bit about this cabinet, because it's almost as though any one of these cabinet members could be a president. Talk about that.

Without a doubt. Let me just go, go a little bit further on the Mike Huckabee thing and something that I think the church has to become far more wise and outspoken about. And I, I feel about a decade ago, more people used to talk about this, and it's gone away, and it's bothering me. I don't think the church is properly equipped to understand the issue of cultural Islam. That's right. And how Islam is slowly slitting the throat of the West. And the fact that almost nobody is applauding shows we have to do more teaching on this, Jack. This is a serious issue. If you have been blessed to go to Europe 10, 15 years ago, I encourage you to go back. Yep. It is an unrecognizable continent. Don't go back. It is a conquered land of the Muhammadans. Yep. And Muhammadanism, by the way, is the following of the Prophet Muhammad, where they believe is the ultimate authority. Christianity in America, we, I, I think that probably Jack is really good on this. I think probably less than 1% of churches are equipping the congregation to understand it. It's slow-motion suicide. That's right. To import millions of people who are taught to hate you, conquer you, and if necessary, kill you. And I know that might sound extreme, but go read the Quran and the Hadith. True. And it's true. Of course, there are good Muslims. I have a doctor who is a good Muslim in Phoenix. That is not the point. The point is the ideology in the macro, not the micro. Do not allow them to trap you into micro stories of Muslims that act pleasant to you, okay? Is the macro compatible with Western civilization? And the answer is, it is not compatible with Western civilization. You must hear this. In fact, if you have any doubt, and we've, you mentioned Europe, um, I've been to Europe both past and, and, and present. It's a shock. It's a heartbreaking shock. Europe is a post-Christian world. There's no doubt about it. But listen, everybody, um, if you land, if you've ever landed at Reagan National Airport, and you get in your Uber or rental car, and you're heading out of the airport, there is a park, uh, just at the, uh, north end of the airport, and there will be, uh, at various times of the day, there will be anywhere from 100 to 200 Muslims with their prayer carpets out praying. You've probably seen them. And in fact, it was just on, on, somebody posted this recently. The point is this, uh, is it, is it Patterson? Is it Patterson, New Jersey? Patterson, New Jersey. Do you know why I'm bringing it up? Anybody? Patterson, New Jersey. The city of Patterson, New Jersey City Council just went 100% Muslim, and they implemented, uh, elements of Sharia law in the United States. And Patterson, New Jersey. If you think that it's just a benign, different religion, you have never read Islam, nor do you know anything about history. And I highly encourage you to read what Winston Churchill said about Islam. It, it will absolutely blow your mind. And sadly, Winston Churchill, nobody listened to him because now his country is, is gone. It's conquered. It's conquered. But you've got to realize something. Uh, they have a little jingle, and it's their jingle. It's, "We'll destroy the Saturday people first, and then we'll destroy the Sunday people." The Saturday people are Jews, and the Sunday people are you. And you say, "Well, I don't think I know a lot of nice Muslims." Listen, push comes to shove, the radicals will force the ones that you know that are nice. Happens in every country all over the world. By the way, as we sit here tonight, right now, in the last several months, and it's escalating, the genocidal acts of Islam in North Africa, killing Christians wholesale. Is that an all-time? Well, not an all-time high. It's at one of the highest levels in the last 50 years. But you don't even know. And so because you don't know, you don't care. But they're being slaughtered by Islam. This is very, very dangerous. And so, just, I just, something to keep in mind, uh, regarding our, our borders, right? Why, why in our borders here? Why for these last four years in the, in the deserts of Arizona and California and Texas, where there are letters and notes in Arabic and in other, in Russian and other Chinese instructions in the desert for them to pick up and go to various places? There's a plan. There's a plot. And, and thank God, President Trump's working hard to shut those doors down. And I'll just end with this. Try, try tonight to get on a plane and fly to Saudi Arabia or even Germany and walk into the country without the proper documentation. Are you hearing me, everybody? You young people up here right now, go try right now to walk into Canada without proper identification. You can't do it. So then why are we opening the door saying, "Come on in, no matter what"? We are in, we are being invaded. In the previous administration allowed it and even encouraged it. And understand this, that Islam, it never goes from a Christian society to an Islamic society. There is an intermediary step, and that is secularism. So a continent like Europe goes from a Christian continent to a materialistic, secular continent, and then to an Islamic one. But understand that Islam is able to quote unquote solve the problems of modernity. So what happens is, you're Christian, and you're happy, and you have kids, and you have people are flourishing. But then we said that, "Well, we need to go liberate our women." Because Christianity is oppressive. That is feminism. That's what you guys send your daughters to college to go learn. And so they become miserable. And then you have to deprogram them and not see them for Thanksgiving. So it's, it's, it's, by the way, it's, it's a fact. The, the, the, the lack of redemption to send your kids to college is very, very remarkable. Anyway, that's a whole separate topic for another time. So we decide to quote unquote liberate our women. It's all about women's liberation, as you notice, started in the 1960s and '70s. What happens when women are liberated? Well, they think that marriage and having family formation is oppressive, and that it's patriarchal. So then having children goes down. And so all of a sudden, Europe, they say, "Well, we need to have people that do all of our jobs because we're not having kids because we are super rich and we're materialistic focused. So who's going to staff our resorts and make our, keep our chat clean and drive our taxis? And so we need people." And they say, "Well, there's 50 million people in the Middle East that want to be here." And you couple that with a non-Christian pagan problem, which is guilt. Guilt is a major, major driver of left-wing politics. We as Christians should not walk around with guilt because we are forgiven by Christ our Lord because of what he did on the cross. So when you are plagued with guilt, which is a major problem of left-wing politics, because they can't reconcile with guilt, there is no way to absolve yourself of guilt. You know, the only way you can do it is do left-wing things. "Diversity is my strength." "Black Lives Matter." "In this house, we believe trans." Your kid. That's like as close as you can get to like absolving yourself of guilt. Well, Europe primarily, what Europe is only really one country, as Germany goes, all of Europe goes. They're by far the wealthiest country, the most productive one. Germany has been hypnotized to believe that you should be always guilty for what your grandparents did. Again, no one is defending the horrors of the Holocaust, obviously. But they have this unresolved guilt. What happens when you have guilt plus secularism, mass migration? That's what you get. So they feel sad and sorry all the time. So you have that awful person, Angela Merkel, who's secular, non-Christian, filled with guilt. And the mechanism of how they make themselves feel better is, "We're going to go import tens of millions of Muhammadans that are going to go rape our women and take over our land because at least I won't be a Nazi." That's true. And that is the strange death of Europe. And so then we look at America, and praise God, we defeated Kamala Harris so that we could kind of, uh, this off at the pass. But it was very similar, right? We had secularism. Yeah. So we were becoming less and less Christian, less and less Christian. We want stuff. We're filled with guilt all the time. What is the great sin of America? The great sin is not abandoning your kids. The great sin is not cheating on your wife. The great sin is not going into debt. The great sin is not becoming an alcoholic. No, the worst thing that you can be in America is a racist. I want you to think about how sick a society is if that's the

The worst thing you can be. Be racism is awful. I'm sorry. Abandoning your children is worse than being a racist. It is. And the fact that, like, we're uncomfortable saying that. Of course, racism is evil. It has no place in society. But we have decided, the secular designers, that the unforgivable sin is not blaspheming the Lord. It's that thou shalt not be racist. And I'm willing to do whatever it takes to show you that I'm not racist. I'll donate to your cause. I'll show up at your parade. Whatever it takes. Have my children as a sacrifice to the god of anti-racism. I will give you my 8-year-old to show you that I'm not racist. That's right.

And so therefore, our immigration policies are then informed by the very same secular pagan view. Well, we, we, we need more brown people because I don't want to be called a racist. That's the worst thing we could be. We need more Ilhan Omars. We need more Rashida Tlaibs. And if you dare question it, you're going to be called the worst thing that you could be called. This is all a byproduct of secularism. When you are no longer Christian, you have no mechanism to be able to deal with guilt, with shame. And you start doing really goofy, weird stuff to your country.

And so now we're living in this kind of post-Christian phase where all of a sudden now we can look at things through a scriptural lens, saying, "Oh, wait." In the end of Deuteronomy, Moses wrote extensively, saying that be careful who you invite into your nation because those people will then become your masters if you are not careful. Got it? So now we look at what's happening in Minneapolis, where it's becoming predominantly Muslim. We see what's happening in New Jersey. We see how Ilhan Omar is parading around the Capitol with nothing good to say about America. We see Rashida Tlaib, we see CAIR. We see how they're going after Mike Johnson. And we can be, you know, wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove and say, you know what? Maybe we should have no immigration from countries that hate us, that then repopulate and take over the West. But you cannot have that belief if you are predominantly secular. Because when you are secular, a counterfeit left-wing view will take the place of Christianity. Yeah, it's 100% true.

And you think about this. This may, I want you to just think this through. This is not for shock value factor. I just honestly want you to take a deep breath and and think this through for a second. Have you noticed, Charlie, that the person who first brings up the issue, the issue of racism, is almost always the racist? I want to be clear. I'm not defending racism or not. I'm saying though that there are worse sins than having racial stereotype. Like raping a child is worse than being a racist. Absolutely. And that that should be repeated because in society, we treat the racists worse. The racist. But in reality, actually, the people making the accusation are the ones with racial bitterness in their heart. Exactly. Exactly.

So we heard five days before Barack Obama took office, I believe it was five days, or maybe it was five days before the election. He said, "We are only five days away from fundamentally changing America, transforming America." Think about that for a moment. It had never been said before. If you love a country, you might run for office to make it better. And you might understand that you're running for an office in this country to help create a more perfect union. Isn't that supposed to be what our politicians are to strive for? That's what our founding fathers told us. But if you want to, can you imagine? You meet a woman and you say, "Let's get married." But before we do, you need to fundamentally change. How long do you think she would go through with that?

And yet, I'm going to say something that is tragic, Al, I think accurate. It doesn't feel very good. But you know, you've got George Washington, you've got Lincoln, uh, you got Reagan, you've got Trump, just all this by the numbers. But you know who was one of the most powerful presidents in all of American history? It's Barack Obama. Powerful in the negative. He normalized the entire LGBTQ situation by putting up the gay flag in our embassies around the world and on the White House. And on the White House, he changed, he completely changed the color of the White House into into rainbow. And and then he normalized, um, Islam. He spoke in Harvard, and behind him, in the area that he was speaking, you can go look it up, it's still online. They, he demanded that they drape the back end of where he was speaking because he was actually speaking from a pulpit. And behind was all of this incredible woodwork, giving glory to God and in the Lord Jesus Christ in scripture. Barack Obama demanded that it'd be covered up. Why would he do that? See, you can't say anything about that because he's black. Well, that's not exactly true. He's half white. But we were so guilt-stricken that we had to. I know, I'm just saying. I didn't. But people had to atone. Watch, watch this. They had to atone for themselves.

So do you guys know that Barack Obama could not have been elected president without the white vote? Did you know that? There's not, he had to have the white vote to win. But then as soon as he won, we were called racist. But if we were racist, then how? Watch, you're going to shock you. If he was elected, and you couldn't get elected without white votes, and then he and his party turn on us and call us racists. Here's, here's the funny, ironic thing about it. If you voted for Barack Obama or Kamala Harris because they're black or half black, you're a racist. You ever think of that? If, if you voted for somebody based on the color of their skin versus their qualifications, you're a racist. You call it, and you rightfully do, guilt, guilt, shame. Yes.

And understand this is where it all becomes spiritual. The enemy, Satan, wants you to live in that state of shame and guilt. He, he is the accuser. Satan literally means prosecutor in Hebrew. He never will give you escape or freedom. That is why Christ changes the entire ball game. And that is why society, when you have a civilization that believes in Christ, you don't live by your past mistakes. You are born new. You are born in Christ. And then all of a sudden, you don't have to say, you don't have to talk about slavery all the time because you're a forgiven nation and you're a forgiven people. Do you understand how the left wants, the same way that Satan would, to hold you captive of something that you might not have done or been connected to? And they keep you in that state of perpetual guilt and shame. Why? You are easier to control that way. You are easier to, as a society, to make you do other things that you would not do because you are filled with that guilt. All of you have been in that place where you feel so bad that you did something and you say, "Anything, I'll do anything to make it right." Well, imagine that as an entire. That is the West over the last 30 or 40 years. And that is why the only solution is to bring the entire country back to Christ. To bring everybody back to Jesus. Otherwise, it actually, you will not be able to long-term solve this problem.

And so you asked about the cabinet. Um, but, uh, we got a little off track. But it, it, it's a phenomenal thing. By the way, this is where I also want to just applaud President Trump's just wisdom and his courage. I truly believe the hand of the Lord is on President Trump, and he's using him as a vessel. I, I really believe that. But just look at the intellectual diversity. You have Tulsi Gabbard. You have Bobby Kennedy at HHS. Praise the Lord that he's there. Two Democrats that were running for the presidency, by the way. If all Bobby Kennedy does is answer one question, he will be the greatest HHS secretary in history. There's only one question he has to answer. It's not, "What is a woman?" But that they know that he, he already got that one right. It's very simple. Why are our kids so sick? Yeah. That is his mission statement. That's all we care about. Bobby, answer that question in four years with no hocus pocus, Fauci science, and you will be a triumph the likes of which we will thank you for a hundred years. It's true. That one question, because our kids are so sick in this state. One in 28 kids have autism. The highest in the country. 50% of our 15-year-olds are obese or overweight. We do not have a child starvation problem in this country. We have a child diabetes problem in this country. That's right. They are trying to add OIC to the Medicaid schedule for 12 and 13-year-olds. That's right. Harvard scientists are saying that obesity is not a lifestyle choice. It is a genetic condition. And there's no use in trying to change diet or improve lifestyle. Just do an injection once a week. This is a waste of time. It'll make everyone's lives better to have teenagers addicted to an insulin shot at the age of 12 or 13. That's right. We have more kids of neurodivergence. Half of our kids, half of our our kids by the age of 21 will have contemplated suicide, said that they are very depressed, hyper anxious, or in need of of significant counseling or a daily regimen of antidepressants. Half of our kids. We are seeing a crisis the likes of which a wealthy developed nation should never actually see. So praise the Lord that the one guy who prayed, Bobby Kennedy, who used to pray to God, right, right. This is his own story, own words. He said that his own story is an answer to prayer. Bobby Kennedy used to get on his hands and knees and say, "God, put me in a place where I can get to the bottom of why our kids are so sick." He literally said, "I will do anything. Use me as a vessel." So he ran for the presidency as an independent. He ran as a Democrat. And I think Bobby deserves a lot more credit than he gets at times. You know how hard it was for a Kennedy to burn all the boats of his ancestry to go endorse Donald Trump? I know you guys might grasp that. It is, it is everything. That's right. He is the namesake of Bobby Kennedy, of RFK. And he said, "I asked God to give me a chance." And he saw an opportunity and he did it. And he endorsed Trump. And he was a phenomenal surrogate. And now to this day, he's already asking the right questions out of the vaccine manufacturers. He's trying to get pharmaceutical advertising off television. Praise God. That would be a huge victory for the American people. Phenomenal.

So, and I, I could spend the rest of our evening, Jack, on this. But let me just go quick. We got Pete Buttigieg, who's just doing amazing at DOD. We have, I, by the way, how great is JD Vance? What an upgrade. JD Vance is, right? Did you say upgrade? You, what did you say? Upgrade? Oh, yeah, I said upgrade. That's awesome. Major upgrade. Big league. Um, can wait before he goes off of this, please. If you did not see JD Vance's speech in Europe to the who's who, who was it? Well, there was two. There was AI, but also the Munich Security Conference. The Munich Security Conference. Please watch it. Masterclass. It was, uh, some people, extraordinary. Some people are saying it was the best speech given in the last 100 years. And I can tell you that JD Vance loves the Lord. He's a serious Christian. He's, he's also a major fighter for the unborn, a serious pro-life advocate. So I, and I just, I love JD. Can't wait to introduce you to JD. He's, I, I want Jack to lay hands over JD and pray for him. He, I, I think he's going to make a great 48th president. I really think JD is going to do a great job. I really do. So let me, um, but then also Cash Patel running the FBI with, with, hold on, his deputy Dan Bonino. I mean, come on. And Marco Rubio at Secretary of State. I mean, wow. Isn't he, man, he came on great. And how about Tom Homan securing the southern border? I mean, I, I just, I want all of you, and there's a lot that we can express tonight, but we should just be in a constant state of gratitude. It says in the scriptures to pray without ceasing. And I want that prayer for you to be one of gratitude. Look, there'll be ups and there'll be downs. There'll be cringe moments. There'll be things, "Oh, I could have said it better." But like, hold on, guys. We have never seen a team of such capable All-Stars assembled to save this country that we love. And glory be to God for this moment that we are living through. Absolutely. Absolutely.

One of the things that was mentioned recently in news is that this is not only the most competent cabinet in American history, but that they are profoundly unified in the vision. And I think that's a testimony to Trump's leadership. Um, there's no gray area. Uh, they know what they're doing. They know what they're supposed to do. And Charlie and I were talking about this earlier today. Isn't God amazing? And I love how God never asks us for our help or for our opinion. So Trump, Trump has his first, uh, four years. And he was able to do, by the numbers, I'm, I'm saying that for people who don't like him, forget about him. Go look at the numbers regarding the economy, regarding the military, regarding interest rates, the borders, you name it. The first four years, uh, he was able to set records. And at the same time, he's fighting off all these impeachments and two, uh, FBI forensic investigations on his. He was, he had to deal with all of the, half, half of the Rhino Republican party, all of the Democrat party, and all of the hatred and people spewing stuff. And America did great. And you made a lot of money during those four years. And then the Biden thing happens. And we're like, "What, what, what's going on?" And I'm, I know my Bible, so I'm starting to get a little nervous thinking, "Okay, God, you're, you're God because you give, in the Bible, you say you give a, you give a nation the leaders that they deserve." So I looked around at the landscape. And I was hoping Trump was going to win the second time. But I had to ask myself, "What do we deserve as a nation?" We deserved Kamala Harris. Oh, that's right. Let's be honest. But here's where, here's my concern. But God is so good. So four years great, four years not great. A guy, a guy runs again. Why would he run again? The guy's worth billions of dollars. He's not getting younger. He's got grandkids. He's got a lot at stake. Why run again? He already knows what it's like. He runs, obviously, he crushes it and dodges a bullet. No, he didn't. He actually got hit by the bullet. The, the, the Lord saved his life that day. The bottom line is, you guys, the second term, you're living history right now. All of you, especially you young people, you ought to get excited. You got a president, and then he was not a president, and then it worked out so perfectly that it wouldn't have been so great if Trump would have had eight years. It's actually better because God is God that it was the four, and then the bad four, and then now the beginning of the new four. Amen. And you guys need to sit up and take notice. God doesn't care about how you feel. God's going to execute his will. And the best thing for you to do is get behind what God wants to do. And you can take a lot of comfort knowing God says, "I establish the kings and I remove the kings." Amen. That's awesome.

And I just want to remind you guys, we did a happening now, as I said, on January 21st, 2021. And it was a, it was not a good vibe here. And we had to try to really dig people out. I think we did a good job of that. And at the time, people would say, "Charlie, is this it for America? Are we done? Is it over?" And at the time, it looked like that. The border was completely wide open. We were seeing the militaristic crackdown of any dissent. I mean, it was a dark, dark time. But I go back to two scriptures. Genesis 5:20: "What the enemy meant for evil, God will use for good." And they really regret not letting Trump win that 2020 election. At this point, there is a lot of regret. They're basically like, "Why is it we had to do all these drop boxes and mailing stuff and the mules and all? Why couldn't we just have allowed Trump a second term?" Because now they have to deal with Cash Patel and Dan Bonino and Bobby Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard, JD. Now, like, what is this? It's a disaster. And it, it should remind all of us that in those micro trials, and look, we're going to go through trials again. There will inevitably be a time where we get a little too prideful, and maybe the Democrats win another presidential election. It might be in four years or eight years. Things go in cycles. Okay? That's right. And so we have to just remember Romans 8:28, that God will use all things for good for those who love him. And it's just such an important lesson for me because it looked as if it was the end of America four years ago, when reality, it was God's love for America to say, "No, it's actually a new birth of freedom if you stay faithful and you keep fighting."

So let me put on the, let me put on the sarcastic hat. Well, that's just great, Charlie. Yes, our politics is better. And, um, even our economy right now, it's going to, it's going to hurt, uh, because, because we overspent really bad as a country. Please listen to this so you're not shocked later. Uh, I think the market was down today close to 400 points. Get used to that for a while. It's going to be rough for a while because we overspent. We were, we were drinking all of this, you know, milkshake and all this stuff and having a great old time. Uh, but that's not how you can function. And so our economy's got to go through some healing processes. Don't worry about it. In fact, if you listen to some of these guys, you listen to JP Morgan and, and, uh, Stanley and you listen to these other guys, and they're saying Trump's doing exactly the right thing. But boy, hang on, hang on, because it's going to be amazing. In about 10 months, this thing should really, really, we should get through it. Just, just know this. But Charlie, so that's good news. And the border shut down. And now there's no new wars starting like during Biden. There was a war every other day. Come on, let's be honest. You think Putin would have invaded Ukraine if Trump would have been in office? There would have been a million people still breathing air right now that never would have happened. And then October, October 7th, 2023, with Israel, that never would have happened. So all that's great, Charlie. That's just great.

But a political revival in the nation is completely different than a spiritual revival within the nation. So what needs to happen next? And this is where my concern is. You mentioned the next four years. I'm, I, I'm concerned regarding the midterms for this reason. I believe God is saying to the church. I, I look, at least he's saying it to this pastor. I can't speak for any other except Greg Laurie. God bless you, brother. Great guy. God is saying to me, "Look, um, I gave you guys some freedom. I gave you guys some liberty. I held back by my mercy, and Trump's doing the right thing for the nation. But what are my pastors going to do with this freedom? What are my pastors going to do with the word of God? What are my pastors going to do with the cultural, listen, with the cultural and social issues that we've become accustomed for a hundred years? Shame on us, the church, for leaning on the government to take care of the homeless problem, leaning on the government to take care of the social ills. The church should have never abandoned those positions. The church should be the greatest asset to a local government and to a state government." And I believe God is saying, "What will the church do? What will the pastors do in America with this extension of grace?" That's my greatest concern. Because I think if the pastors don't get up and wake up and speak up, that God may, God may give us a midterm election result that Trump is powerless in his last two years. It could happen. Probably will, unless the church wakes up. Because if you think God is going to spare America just for political reasons, you don't know the God of the Bible, nor do you know American history. Okay? This big stuff. I believe now the answer is the pulpit in America. What will happen in the pulpit in America is is the next point.

Yeah, and and to reiterate that there is a harvest waiting to happen. And I do not currently see pastors interested at all. And the harvest is very simple. It ties back to what we said earlier. There are millions of young men starving for the truth that are asking their local pastor to start to be a pastor, not just someone who gives a TED talk with a rock concert wearing skinny jeans. Don't worry, you're fine, Jack. And you're not that skinny. You're great. A church is more than a place with organized parking and above-average coffee and to go hear how great you are. Here's the problem. A feminine church affirms those that walk in. A biblical church, or one that is masculine, or at least gets presented as one, challenges those that walk in. Those are two different things. Allow me to build that out. Young men will go, "I hear this all the time. They say, Charlie, I can't find a church near me." Jack, you have young men that will drive five hours to come down here. They do. And do. And they are. And that's awesome. And that is something that is a testament to Jack. But how many churches did they pass on the way that weren't telling the truth? That weren't doing the right thing? So what does this look like in practice? Well, very simply, it's when you are presenting the scripture, you need to be actively trying to provoke the people in the audience, your congregation, to understand that yes, you need a savior. But you can't grasp what a savior is if you don't know what sin is. And so when a church does not preach about sin, then how on earth do you even say you need a savior? The modern gospel, as embodied by those just nauseating "He Gets Us" advertisements, which are just ridiculously awful and a waste of money and doing such damage to the kingdom right now, which basically, those ads are saying, "He gets you. Jesus is your bro. Hyper narcissism. He's going to come down. Hey, when you're watching porn, he gets you. Totally. When you're going into debt, he gets you." Instead, it should be, "No, no, no. The whole, the whole framing of the campaign should be that God judges you, and Jesus saves you." Very simple. How often do you hear this idea that God is a God of judgment? Never. Well, because that's too judgy, and people won't show up for that. Look, I hate to pull rank here. I know how to draw crowds of young people, okay? And guess what? They don't show up for me on campus because I water things down. They show up. And I will say very plainly, my, I believe that transgenderism is not biblical. I believe that homosexuality is a sin. I believe, I will go through these things. I believe that abortion is murder. And the crowds are growing. Why? Because they are so searching for truth. Finally, if a pastor is giving a sermon to affirm the sins of those that attend, that person should stop being a pastor. That's right. That's right. And the affirmation trend is a very disturbing one where they'll say, "Well, I'm not one to tell you that if you're in a homosexual marriage, there's nothing wrong with that." Or, "I'm not one to say that if you're transing your kid, there's nothing wrong with that. In fact, I'm going to meet you where you are, and Jesus loves you as you are." Forget all the theological sloppiness. There. How has that worked for the church the last 30 years? Exactly. It's been a disaster. Church attendance is down. And watering it down through a modern lens has turned into a generation that says, "Why would I get up at 9:00 AM to hear this when it's compl, it's no different than just a self-help seminar at the local library?" There's, there's literally no difference. That's right. Instead, what we need is a crisis call for a generation for them to understand that there will be an hour of judgment, and that there's only one thing that will save that. And they must understand the severity of sin, what human nature actually is, and the depravity of man. And guess what? You have a generation that wants that kind of truth-telling preaching, not the watered-down garbage that they're getting time and time again when they go to their local church. Right.

It's for that reason that for those of us who are old enough, there are many indicators right now with what Charlie just said that is very reminiscent of of what we saw in the late 60s and early 70s when the Jesus Revolution, the Jesus movement broke open upon America. Uh, the kids were disillusioned by the Timothy Leary LSD scene, free sex, free drugs, live for whatever feels good. And remember, parents in those days were so caught up with just giving their kid money because they were out building fortunes, that the kids went out into this land of lust. And it was the kids who woke up. They said, "Wait a minute. I'm tired of getting stoned. I'm tired of all this sex. There's no meaning to my life whatsoever." And they went searching. And they started showing up at a church in Costa Mesa with, with no, I mean, no bath, no shoes, filthy, to to of all things, to to watch an old man sit on a stool and read the Bible to them verse by verse. That was Chuck Smith. And there's all these kids. And it, it was historic what happened. And then that, in my opinion, eventually over the decades, died out. We're starting, we see now what Charlie just described. We see the indicators of the, we're on the cusp of what I call a revival in the church. When the church is revived, then there's an awakening. Listen, a believer has to be revived. Revival. The world doesn't need a revival. There's nothing to revive in the world. The world needs an awakening. When the church is revived and acts like the church, then the lost are awakened. We're on the brink of that right now. So the challenge is, will you be ready now tonight to follow Jesus? Not a church, not a person, not a movement, not a thing. Will you be willing tonight to follow Jesus? Will you let his word, the Bible, be the sovereign authority over your life? I tell you what, you say, "Well, that's too restrictive." It's the exact opposite. You're listening to the lies of the enemy. You want freedom. You want liberty. Hey, you want freedom and liberty even if you're in a cell? Oh my goodness. I just reminded myself of something. I met a young man last Sunday who wrapped me up in his arms and gave me a big hug. And I noticed he had tattoos all up his neck. And, uh, he was just so joyous and handsome and and vibrant. But I thought, "I recognize these tattoos." And I said, "What's with the tattoos?" And he said, "I was in federal prison. I was in a federal penitentiary." And he said, "They allowed us to listen to the radio." And he said, "Pastor Jack, I got saved listening." And that's why I'm here today. I got saved listening to your broadcast. And I'm a brand new, I'm a brand new man. And he said, "God has restored my life." He already knows what the underbelly of the world is. And he doesn't want it anymore. He wants Jesus. And listen, what about you? Here's, here's the thing. The Jesus that you and I read about in scripture is the Jesus that loves you. And watch this. Charlie used two, a couple of words about, "Will you be affirmed when you walk into a church, or will you be challenged?" I want to remind you, Jesus never affirmed anyone. Not a single person. In fact, when he had a golden moment to add numbers to his church of 12 guys, isn't that amazing? God, God, when he was on Earth, was a pastor, and he only had 12 people. And one of them was Satan possessed. That's. But did you know that Jesus practiced negative church growth tactics? The Rich Young Ruler came to Jesus. Think about the church that would love to have a rich young ruler in their congregation. This man comes to Jesus. He was the yuppie. If you guys are young people, do you know what that is? But this kid was young, he was rich, and he had power. And he said, "Jesus, what do I need to do to enter the kingdom of heaven?" And Jesus, it, it was so amazing because what Jesus said was quite remarkable. Because Jesus answered him in a way that wasn't exactly the answer to heaven, but it was the answer for that young man. This way. So Jesus, "What do I need to do to enter the kingdom of heaven?" And Jesus says, "Go sell everything that you have and come and follow me." He goes down the list of things. "And I've kept all these laws." And Jesus didn't contend that. He didn't fight that. Jesus said, "Go sell all that you have and come and follow me." Church family, listen. Is that how you go to heaven? Do you get to heaven by selling everything you have? No. You think Jesus knew that? What did Jesus do? Jesus hit him right in the idols. He hit him right in the idols. All of his idols. Jesus brought the idols to the forefront of the man's thinking to bring him to the point of decision. And the young man had to go like this, "Um, you, or the things that I love and have?" And the Bible says he turned away and walked away. And, and it's the Bible says, and Jesus was sad. Listen, Jesus doesn't want to be sad about the decision you make. He wants you to make the right decision to have him be the Lord of your life. And Jesus, he doesn't, he doesn't affirm you and say, "Listen, uh, come, uh, all are welcome." Of course, all are welcome. But God loves you so much that Jesus died on the cross to make sure that all are changed. Every single one of us are sinners. Listen, from homosexuality to adultery to robbing a bank, or to sitting there looking like an angel but having filthy thoughts in your mind. Did you know all of those things are sin? And if you sit here tonight and say, "Well, I'm okay now," you're really messed up because you're full of pride. The worst of all. We're all guilty. You would never go to a doctor and and appreciate that doctor who would say to you, "I just, you know what? You have cancer on your skin, and it's looking pretty deep, probably into other areas of your body, but I affirm you. Your, I affirm your condition. I just affirm your, your life as it is." Well, aren't you going to cut it out? Oh, I would never do that. That's kind of radical. Listen, you want to be challenged. The doctor, I hope when you go, he says, "What's that thing on your face?" You want your doctor to get out the chainsaw and get it out of there. Jesus says, "Look, this is your sin, and it has to be dealt with." And that's where you say to him, "Not me, not, not anybody else, to him, Lord, be merciful to me, a sinner." Like Isaiah said, the great Isaiah, "Lord, forgive me. I'm undone. I am unclean." Jesus can only forgive sinners. But you have to know that he's the Savior. And saviors save people. But if you don't think you need saving, you can't get saved because you don't have a savior. You have to know. Jesus said, "I've come for those who are sick." A healthy person doesn't need a doctor. That was a slam on pride and arrogance. Don't be like that tonight. I understand. Listen, religion, people abusing authority have taken advantage of us. And it's, and there's, I think there's a special place in hell for people who have clothed themselves in religion and manipulated and took advantage of people. Okay? God will deal with them. But listen, you're still drawing breath, and you need to know this. Jesus, if you would have been the only one born from Adam and Eve, Jesus Christ still would have come. Based on biblical Christianity, biblical scripture, if Adam and Eve only had one child, Christ still would have come to the cross for you. He died for the sins of the entire world. But whosoever would believe on him would not perish but have everlasting life. Religion gets in the way of that. Religion will muck it all up and get you all bound up in legalism. You do this, you pay this, you tithe this much, and you do the other thing, and then you get baptized, and then we'll put this, and we'll put that, and then we'll give you, and then we'll tell you later if you've made it or not. That is sick. God hates it. And Jesus says, "You guys who do that, you travel land and sea to make a convert twice as much a child of hell than you are yourselves." Know Jesus personally. He's the living God who loved you enough to come 2,000 years ago with you on his heart and mind. And he says, "If you'll turn to me, I will never turn you away." This is the Lord. And this is the one whom when in 1620, our Pilgrim fathers left Europe because of a brutal organized church, the Church of England. Our Pilgrim fathers came. And before they stepped off in Plymouth, they crafted the Mayflower Compact. It ain't big. I have it hanging on my wall just behind the screen. It's only two paragraphs long. It's the original birth certificate of the United States that would that would become the United States. And the first sentence, it says that we have come here to the advancement of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Did you know that? Northern nation. And those guys fought real hard to keep it real simple. Don't, don't complicate it. God loves you. He still loves you. You. And he wants you to trust in him. Let's pray together. Father, we thank you, Lord, for light, for clarity. And father, there's no way that truth can be spoken without a lie getting hit. And so, Lord, tonight, test our hearts. If in any, any way, shape or form tonight, we felt some sort of, uh, reject, uh, repulse or push back of truth that was spoken, may you, Lord, in the midst of us, convict and show us that was me speaking to you tonight. That's why the reaction was that you had. I showed you tonight. This is where I'm speaking to you. And friend, respond to him. Don't make excuses anymore. Don't try to cover anything up. Adam and Eve tried that in the garden. Didn't work. Then it doesn't work now. Come to him. And father, we pray that you would keep Charlie, his precious family safe. Watch over the entire team at TPUSA. And father God, we pray that all that you do with him, it would all go to his heart and not his head. We need him to keep going with all that you're giving to him. Lord, may he keep it simple. We love him so very much. And so, father God, we pray that tonight you might heal America. We thank you for President Trump. God, that he would have absolute faith in you and you alone. We pray for this cabinet. We pray, Lord God, for our law enforcement. We pray, father, for our military. We ask you, Lord God, in Jesus' name, that you would go before this nation and its policies. We ask you, father, that you would confirm Mike Huckabee, Lord, to Israel. We ask you, Lord God, that you would do things and continue to do things that surprise us constantly. You are amazing. We love you, God. We praise you, God. And we thank you, Lord, for Charlie Kirk. I thank you for these people. And we pray it together in Jesus' name. And all God's people said, amen.

Charlie, last words. I, I just want to first thank you, Jack, for this amazing opportunity. I, I, I want to repeat some of the things I said. There is this generational realignment. There is a harvest waiting to happen of young people if the church will rise up and if pastors will lean into this moment. I, I want to challenge all of you to do more and to fight even harder. This is a respite, a moment of grace given to us by God. And what we will do with it will determine the future of our country. I also, uh, want to direct your attention to one thing. As you guys know, we do a daily podcast. Thank you guys for listening to it, by the way. Really deeply appreciate that. We have the QR code up on screen. If you guys would subscribe to it by taking out your phone, it really helps us out. Let's do this. We did this years ago here. We did. And come on, let's do this. So if you guys take out your phone, it's awesome. And you, you, you follow the QR code and you hit subscribe. Watch what happens. By tomorrow morning, we will beat the New York Times on the podcast. This room right here. Do it tonight. We did it once before. Better. We're going to beat Gavin Newsom on the podcast. Tom. Okay. Oh, it's awesome. You guys follow that QR code. If you have no idea how to subscribe to a podcast, just come up here to one of the high schoolers. They'll teach you how to do that. I'm not kidding. Just find a young person with a MAGA hat on. You guys know how to do it, right? Um, but all kidding aside, we're under constant, you know, censorship stuff. When you subscribe and follow those QR codes and hit those subscriptions for the Charlie Kirk Show podcast, it blesses us every day from a biblical lens. And I just want to close by saying, you guys are blessed to have Jack KBS leading your church. Everybody. It's an honor to be here. Thank you guys so much.