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Here at this really cool opportunity, and a human voice is just digging into my head. Who am I to teach a class on painting? Who am I to think that I am somebody that can talk about connecting with God when I still struggle with a lot of things?
I was just working one-on-one with a celebrity here, local in Vegas. And and I kept asking myself, who am I to be answering these questions that they want me to answer? You just think sometimes like there's no way that that person has imposter syndrome. There's no way that successful person is dealing with the same thing.
If you think I'm not good enough, it's because you're comparing to something else that you think is better.
And that's when I heard very clearly God speak in me, say, "I am. I am. I am. I am. I am."
Living God's light. Okay. Want to hear a cool thing that I'm doing this weekend?
Yes, please.
Okay. So, my friend messages me and she says, "Hey, I'm hosting a retreat. Would you be willing to come teach a class on painting and kind of talk about how art has helped you with your sessions with God and help you like create a stronger relationship with God?" And I'm like, "Yeah, that sounds so great. I'm so excited for that." Um, and as it's been approaching, I've been pushing it off, pushing it off, pushing it off. But this week, it's like, okay, it's here. I got to I got to do something about this, right? I have my whole talk from our conference. I can kind of incorporate that. And then I start preparing for it. And all these feelings started coming up of like, who am I to teach a class on painting when I have just barely started painting? Who am I to think that I am somebody that can talk about connecting with God when I still struggle with a lot of things? Who am I? And I just got this like really dense imposter syndrome thing going on. And, um, the curiosity struck up in me of like, what am I holding myself back from because of this imposter syndrome?
Well, I think that a lot of times we're inviting the thief of joy, which is expectation, into a lot of what we're doing.
Yeah. But like, why, why does it have to be there? You know, like, here's this really cool opportunity. And when it's far away, it's like, so easy to say yes to. As it approaches, it's like the human, human voice is just digging into my head. And you guys struggle with this. Yeah, I know that, uh, I, I ended up working with, this was before I started doing sessions. I was just working one-on-one with a celebrity here, local in Vegas. And and I kept asking myself, who am I to be answering these questions that they want me to answer? And that's when I heard very clearly God speak in me, say, um, "How dare you think you're getting in the way?" So I, I said, "Well, how do I do this? How do I step into that role and not get in the way?" And and I heard it very clear. "Just show up."
Just show up.
Just show up.
Yeah. That he was wanting to meet with me and just to show up. And so I did. And we had an amazing experience. And we worked together for like a year and a half.
Yeah.
And he, he really helped invite in me the idea that I could be doing this, um, for a living to help people.
Yeah.
Lynn, is it something you deal with? I'm, I'm thinking about that as I asked the question. And part of me wants to say, well, yeah, of course, it's a normal, natural thing. But honestly, now, what happened to you? Get over it?
So, so there's a couple pieces of this, couple pieces. So, so some elements are all of that are always going to be there. It's just part of. And and part of what it, what Vinnie said applies, that expectation is the thief of joy.
It's also the thief of presence.
It's the thief of, of the experience that you're having. So being present and experiencing, if you have expectations of what something is going to be, it, it can wreck it.
Yeah.
Because nothing ever matches our expectations. So even if the experience would be better than our expectation, that comparing throws things off. And when I say comparison, we have a culture of comparison. Because if you think I'm not good enough, it's because you're comparing to something else that you think is better.
Yeah.
And and so with that, I think one of the keys for me is part of what Vinnie said is, don't let yourself get in the way. But also, just realize that I'm going to give this everything that I have and take what comes. Yeah, you're, you're preparing. They've asked you to do this, so they see value.
You're putting in the preparation, so you can look back, however this turns out. You're like, well, I put into it everything that I could. This is the best that I could do at this moment in time.
Yeah.
And then just let what happened happen. Let, let God flow through you. Let spirit flow through you. Let other people receive. But if you can be present in that moment and give it everything that you've got, you have nothing to feel bad about. And that's really what it is, is the experience. You do all the preparation, give it everything you have, and then take what comes. There's a saying that I picked up. I don't think it's just a military saying, but that's where I picked it up. Um, "Plan for the worst, hope for the best, take what you can get."
I like that.
Yeah. I've been, I've been asked to speak in front of churches. And there's times I, my human is thinking, "Who are you to do this?" And so I'll do the due diligence. I'll plan something. I, I actually plan less now though, because where I am, I've learned that no matter what I plan, it gets thrown out when I'm sitting on the stand about to speak.
Yeah.
Um, but I still do. I'll, I'll have something in the coffer ready to go.
Yeah.
But, uh, you know, a lot of missionaries and a lot of preachers and pastors say the same thing sometimes, that when you're put in that position, you do your due diligence, but what comes out is nothing that you had prepared.
Um, and that's when you're really in the flow of the, the energy of what's going on there.
Yeah. Can I jump in on that real quick with the, this is definitely a military saying that "No plan survives contact with the enemy."
Yeah.
I mean, everything, you know, and then somebody else, everybody has a plan until you get punched in the face.
Um, but, but there's, um, the key there is, is the plan. Even if the plan changes, there's a benefit to having a plan, to having the preparation for two reasons. One, it increases your skills, which allows you to pivot. But it also puts you in the frame of mind to kind of, it's kind of the first creation.
Yeah.
That, so when you've got to adapt it on the fly, you're already in that space.
Yeah.
Okay. So before the plan though.
Before the plan.
Yep.
Because the plan is important.
But I can sense in myself that like, when that imposter syndrome kicks in, it's all procrastination. You know, because I'm stuck. I'm, you might, I'm listening a lot to that human voice. And, um, how do I get beyond that? Because I truly do believe that that listening to the imposter syndrome voice is holding me back in a way.
It's holding me back from some of my bigger potentials. And it's when I had zero, you're right. Like, when I've had zero expectation of things that were going to happen, you know, things have fallen into place.
Example, me being on this podcast.
Didn't even know that being on a podcast was even something that would ever enter my realm whatsoever. So that I had zero.
I think for all three of us on that one.
Yeah. Not my thing, but here I am.
Yeah. But like, when I can see something coming down the path, you know,
Tell, tell me more about how that imposter syndrome is creating procrastination. Tell me more about that.
It's creating procrastination because I don't want to listen to it. So if I do the thing to help me prepare for the event that's coming up or for the thing that I desire to do, I just don't do it. And it's not, it's not like I want to feel that rush right towards the end.
Um, so going into that creative space where you're, because it's a creative space, because you are creating something to present to somebody else.
Yeah.
Just going there, that voice comes in of like, "Who do you think you are? Why do you think you can do this?"
Yeah.
And, and you don't want to experience that. So you keep putting it off until now it's a critical thing where like, I, I can't even afford to listen to the voice. It's just got to get done.
Yeah.
Okay, that makes sense.
Yeah.
Uh, I would say, and that's, and that's not just with this class that I've got. This is posting on social media, things that I've felt like maybe I should do this, or, um, creating art and then sharing it, uh, doing, doing video editing and sharing that before I ever got involved with you guys.
Mhm. I've got a thought, but Vinnie, I know you do first. You go ahead. Mine.
It's, it's kind of like, um, that's why God goes shows us the plan one step at a time. You know, if God had pulled the three of us aside five years ago and said, "You're going to be on a podcast. You're going to do this. You're going to do that." I would immediately start self-sabotaging. I know for a fact.
Yeah. I would have been like, "You want me to be on a podcast with you dudes? What is that gonna do for my, from the outside?" Like, visually.
What's funny though, is is almost five years to the day, I had a dream and I, I recorded it. I wrote it all down. And looking back, I'm like, "Oh, yeah. That's what God was doing was giving me the symbols of what was going to be." And here we are living it right now. And we're still in our infancy in the podcast.
Yeah.
But what's, what's really neat though, is you look at some of these other podcasts that I'm connected to, um, from being on their shows, they started out as feeling imposters themselves. And now they're holding huge events and big circles and big social things. And they still have it. They still do.
Yeah. Yeah.
I know in, in singing and, uh, entertaining, a lot of, uh, musicians, that's why they like to dress in very elaborate costumes so they can put on that persona.
Mhm.
And because they still have that imposter syndrome, even though they have screaming, you know, 50,000 fans wanting to see them.
It's true. You just think sometimes like there's no way that that person has imposter syndrome. There's no way that successful person is dealing with the same thing that I am because look where they are now, right?
Yeah. But you know what though? I've worked truly with people at the very top of their, their industries. And they still have that imposter syndrome. Whether they're making 30 million a year or $30 an hour, doesn't matter. You're saying this never goes away?
Our humanness.
Yeah.
So, I have something for you to try.
Okay.
Okay. Invite God into the process from the beginning.
Yes.
Co-create. So, so the very first thing you do when you sit down to create this, the very first question to ask is, "Please help me know what I need to prepare for these people."
Okay.
"Guide me through the process." Because if you're co-creating with God,
Yeah.
what do you have to worry about?
Yeah. You know, and it's interesting, when I, when I opened that prayer and opened that dialogue, things started flowing like crazy. But it was my own procrastination that was holding me back from even getting to that point.
Well, because you think you think that they're there to meet the human Alyssa. They're not. They're there to connect with the soul of Alyssa. And can the soul of Alyssa show up? And can the soul of Alyssa care about those people? And the answer to both of those is yes. And that's who got booked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, so from the beginning, so start with that.
Invite God into the process from the very beginning.
Mhm.
Can you show up and can you care?
Yeah.
And then, then see what happens.
Okay. I keep getting this like, uh, thought coming in, but like, what about the imposter syndrome that's actually keeping people from taking the steps? From, you know, maybe they have a dream to create a business, maybe they have a dream to have a YouTube channel or start a podcast like we have, but they're just stuck in like, "I can't. Like, I don't know how I would even get there. There's no way that anybody would listen to me or my voice or support my business." What do you say to those people?
You need two things. You need a mentor to encourage you and tell you you're getting it. And you need a call, like a cheering section. Could be a cheering section of one, but somebody who is encouraging you, motivating you, inspiring you along that path, somebody who believes in you more than you do. There's somebody out there who will do that. And if you haven't found them yet, keep looking. Uh, in whatever space you're operating in, especially now with so, as much as we talk about social media and online stuff and how harmful all that can be, it can also be wonderfully uplifting and supportive.
Yeah. Whatever it is you're doing, there's probably a community out there that you can tap into, learn from them, possibly find a mentor and a cheering section all at the same time. Just connect with them and then share your fears, your your concerns, and everything else. And if they go, "Oh, yeah, what you've got is actually hot garbage and you should give up." That's not your community.
Right. If you're feeling a pull for that,
Uh, because, because there are those communities out there too, where people just, and that's part of the toxic stuff. Flush that aside. You're looking for the one for your people, which is going to uplift you and guide you and support you. They're there waiting for you.
And somebody in that group also needs inspiration from you as well.
Oo, back to that energy exchange thing that we talked about in a previous episode.
Yes. Well, also, if you see it as you're the salt in God's hands and you're going to be sprinkled exactly where you're supposed to be. And for those who need you. I, I do like Lynn said, I will, when I'm scheduled for an event, especially in the very beginning, it, I had so much imposter syndrome coming up in me because of my childhood. And I would go look up four or five people doing the same thing that I'm about to do. And then I would ask myself, "Could I do it even half as well as they are?" And the answer would be yes, every time.
Yeah.
And, and the key is showing up and just caring. That's it.
You show up and be the caring you that you are, and you're going to be great.
Yeah.
And Vinnie, when you said the salt in God's hands, that brought to mind another, another concept that I think is key. Realize there's only one of you.
There's only, and and even though other people do art, nobody does art like you do art. Nobody has that spiritual connection with the way that they do art. Even if other people do the spiritual connection, there is only one Alyssa way to do this.
Yeah. And that is a very unique and special spice that is going to resonate with some people way more than somebody who's like sold millions of dollars worth of art.
They're not going to connect with that person's heart and inspire them to also have that connection the way that you will.
Yeah.
So another part of that imposter syndrome is, you're only an imposter if you're trying to impersonate somebody else. You are not an imposter if you are being authentically you.
Yeah. Be the best version of you.
Along with that, I think it's also important to give permission to practice it like somebody else does, because you're going to find your way through practice like somebody else does, you know.
Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. There's so much you can learn and explore, uh, in practicing to be somebody, like learning skills. Um, yeah. So many ways that you can learn from other people to enhance your own skills.
Mhm.
Just don't try to be that person.
Right. Right. Well, think about this, too, that since we're talking about art, um, my cousin, uh, Greg Olsen, who painted that one, painted that one, um, the two paintings I have behind me, if he had listened to his imposter syndrome, would we have any of the fine works that he has created?
Yeah. And, and not just that, he had a, a wife who supported his dream from the beginning, who, you know, shout out to Sid, to Sydney Olsen for seeing in Greg, um, the master's hand in his hand.
Yeah.
And, uh, if he had listened to that imposter, I mean, look at all the paintings he's put out over the years.
They're so beautiful. There's a, there's just so many. And to me, um, I feel inspired when I see, especially these two. Um, they're my favorite two of his. And well, I shouldn't say they're my favorite. I have like a hundred favorites of his.
But I, I love that when you, when you lean into the belief God has in you, the imposter side gets smaller and smaller and smaller.
Yeah. So, I do have a conclusion. And that, like, she even asked me to speak, right? So, I, I got to kind of experience and I do have a conclusion of where I'm at. But before I share it with you guys, it's actually pretty cool and I'm really excited to share it today or this weekend with them. And, but my question for you is, is your imposter syndrome, is somebody's imposter syndrome actually holding them back from their spiritual potential? Is it actually holding him back?
100% it is.
Yeah.
Yeah. Well, because our, here's what's interesting. Built in within every physical body is a sense to keep you small and to keep you out of others' eyes, so that you're not a target.
Yeah.
But yet, that's not what God wants us to do.
Right. God wants us to embrace that that inner calling for what we're being called to do. That's why we're getting that calling and everyone around us is not.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like, kind of goes back to many times we talk about being like a child. And if you think about kids, they haven't been programmed into this imposter syndrome. I mean, they're the greatest at everything that they do. Um, and, you know, they're open and they're exploring. They're just being very authentic in everything. And, and the imposter is, it's a self-judgment. It's keeping ourselves small, like Vinnie said. And anytime anything that diminishes our potential, diminishes our spiritual connection.
Yeah. Yeah. So, I, you know, as I was thinking about what I was going to share, I was thinking about all the times in my life that I have never given myself credit for the, the good work that I was doing. You know, I was, I was working as a graphic designer and I would say, "Well, I'm not a real graphic designer because I don't have XYZ." Then I got the XYZ and then I'd say, "Well, I'm not that kind of graphic designer. I'm a layout designer." You know, I would, I never gave myself the extra, um, credit to myself of, you know, these things that I could call myself, that could be called, you know, that could be seen as a positive. And as I was looking backwards, I could see how I had imposter syndrome all along. And yet God was in creative pursuit of my heart.
Mhm.
Every step of the way. I wasn't calling myself a graphic designer, yet I was getting these opportunities. I was getting this success, yet I wasn't giving credit to myself. I was giving it to somebody else. And he was, I feel like God was waiting for the day that I would go, "You know what? Maybe God loves me enough that I am worth this. And maybe I can do these things. I'm going to let all the other voices go." And it's like my spirituality has exploded in just this curiosity. And I can see how God has always been pursuing me. And that I think is where, like, yeah, you can carry the imposter syndrome. You have it now, probably. You're probably never going to not have it.
But God's always going to be there. And this, you know, it's, it's just that waiting for that moment when you let it go, when you decide to not listen to that voice, that maybe things will just really take off for you.
Yeah.
And we'll realize that that imposter syndrome is really your ego. It's the voice of ego.
It is edging God out.
Yeah.
It really is. And, you know what? I like to share credit with God to every success. When someone comes up and says that, you know, "That was amazing. You got rid of this thing that I've been dealing with their whole life." And I go, "Yeah, God is amazing."
Yeah.
"Because God brought us together."
God worked through us together to help you rid yourself of that. Yeah.
Yeah. A question for you with that. At the same time, do you still hold an acknowledgement that you were the conduit? That you opened up and allowed? That you were part of the process, not outside of it?
For the first couple years, no. For the first couple years, I would not allow myself to own that.
Mhm.
Um, until, you know, one particular person I was working with, they had worked with more than 20 other people in the past.
Mhm.
And they kept coming back to me. And they would, you know, put their comparisons in there, compared to working with others. And they, and they were throwing compliments. And I was, of course, giving it all to God. I love to do that. It's my favorite thing to do, 'cause that's where I, that's my source is God.
And they said, "Yeah, but God through you is so much better than, you know, working through these other individuals." I'm like, "I'm like, well, you know, God has lots of different flavors, lots of different colors, and I'm not the right flavor for a lot of people, but I can appreciate that I'm the right flavor for you."
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because I think it's critical to acknowledge our part in that. Like, don't erase yourself from that equation.
Yeah.
It's so important. And that's again, part of that imposter syndrome. I think for me, one of the big turning points is when I similarly owned the role, the title, whatever, of being a writer.
Because I pushed that off for so long.
Yeah.
Well, I'm not this, I'm not that, I'm not. And, but then when I finally realized, no, no, in my heart and my soul, I'm a writer. I'm just going to own it. H that removes so much baggage.
Yeah. And if you go back to when we first started writing the book, I'm going to say it the right way. When Lynn first started writing the book, together with me, um, I remember having a Zoom session and, and I don't know if you remember this, Lynn, or not, but there was a lot of things going on your personal world and a lot of shifting and a lot of stuff going at your old job. And you're like, Vinnie, sometimes I ask myself, "Who am I to be writing this book?" And that's when I would remind you that I had asked on hundreds of other writers and never got a yes. And you are the yes that God gave me.
Yeah.
And one of the keys with that is, in being a writer, I don't compare myself to any other writers. As soon as I stopped looking at like these New York Times bestselling authors, like, "Well, I got to be there in order to call myself a writer." I was like, "No, no, no. I'm a writer and I'm my own kind of writer."
Yeah.
Yeah. It's that, can I just be 1% better than myself yesterday?
Oh, yeah.
I love that concept. It's something I still am practicing all the time. Can I just be 1% better than I was yesterday from myself, not compared to somebody else?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love it.
Yeah.
And it applies not just to creative stuff, but everything. Can I be 1% more loving? 1% more forgiving?
Um, think of where you'd be in a year.
Also, think about like tomorrow. Can I be 1% tomorrow better than I was today?
Okay. I have a question. It's from the book. Um, Drake said, "You can literally move mountains with the power of creation."
He's The word literally, I don't think was an accident in there.
Um, I don't know why this needs to come up right now, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
From what I've learned is everything is frequency. And if you can learn to speak that frequency, you can move said thing.
Okay. Even a mountain.
Even a mountain.
H got to sit with that one, I guess.
But think, think about this. Think about where you were 10 years ago. And look at the mountain which has been moved for the three of us to be sitting here doing this. 10 years into that future, I feel like there's five mountains moved for me.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. If I go backwards and look at the mountains that have moved.
Yeah. So, do our faith, does our words, do our actions move mountains? Absolutely.
Yeah. And I think it, gosh, can we give ourselves grace too when that imposter syndrome comes up? When we are very human, when we have those knee-jerk reactions, can we give ourselves grace that we really are doing a lot better than we think we are?
Oh, yeah. Well, in the work that I do, there's a regular exercise that spirit prompts me to do, and that is to go into a, into your mind, you know, go into a, a blank white space, like a big white room. And hear a knock on a door over to your left. Go over to that door, open it, and it's you from 10 years ago, or you from five years ago. And look at the expression on their face when they see who you are today. And then when you're done hugging them, thanking them for being them in their own journey, their own struggles, close that door. Go back to the middle of the room, and hear a knock on the door on the right side. Go over to that door, open it, and it's you 10 years in the future.
Whoa.
It's, it's really neat because it helps you understand that the human attribute is just part of the experience here. And so when it comes up and it's trying to block things, you can just look at it as what it is. "Oh, look, that's my human. That's my my fleshness."
Yeah.
"That isn't my true essence. It's part of the experience."
I love it. I love this experience. Like, I really hope that everybody loves being a human because I think there's so much like focus on afterlife, especially like when we listen to ease and spiritual experiences that like, it's, it's away from being human, right? But can we appreciate the really hard parts of being human too? And maybe my imposter syndrome has kept me at a pace that is just right for me. That, you know, maybe I said no to this, but I, it gave me time to reflect on things.
And, um, not that I need to love every aspect about imposter syndrome, right? But, but also appreciate maybe that it has done something for me.
Well, it, it allows you to measure your growth. Your humanness is what allows you to measure your growth.
Yeah.
Cuz see who you were 10 years ago, see who you're going to be in 10 years. That allows you to measure that growth. And that's why we're here. Believe it or not, we wanted to be here.
Oh, man.
And, you know, this journey, heaven is within every breath, within every thought, within every moment of every day. But we'll never see it if we don't look to find it.
Yeah. And even with that, I know for my part, I'm confident it's the same for you. Some days this experience just straight up sucks.
Oh, yeah.
And, and it is not fun. And some days I'm like, h, how much longer? Um, but it all cycles. And, and even that, even those feelings are still part of the experience. And I learn from those and I grow from those. And, um, you know, you hope the good days are better than the bad days, but part of the reason we're here is to have bad days.
When I have a bad day, which, um, they're getting fewer and fewer now, but when I have a bad day, I'll end that day with gratitude, saying, "Thank you for this bad day, for me to know I have good days. For me to know that there's something more tomorrow, and that tomorrow I have a better shot at a good day."
Yeah. Yeah. There's something about closing out a day like that. I've done that. And writing down, "Thank you for this bad day for the so that I can know the light."
It's kind of like you have to wash your hands to know how clean you are.
Yeah.
Yeah. Well, and somebody just shared in our, uh, Discord community, I want, it was like a music video or something, but it was a, it was that concept of "Thank you for the pain." Thank you for, uh, so it's basically flipping the bad experience into a, um, you know, "Thank you for helping me see this, thank you for helping me to grow, thank you for those challenges." Basically flipping the things that we usually complain about into a gratitude. Um, and even if it's not, not that you need to go looking for those things, but, but look for the benefit. Look for the gift in the struggle. Yeah, I was the one that shared that. And my favorite line from that song is,
"Do you know what God calls an angry prayer?"
A prayer.
A prayer.
I love it so much.
Yeah. And, and this is something I've learned. This is something I've learned and I've used. Um, feel free to get mad at God. Feel free to have angry prayers. Uh, God will take it all. And just be your authentic self with God, first and foremost. If you're mad at the world, scream it out and just, you know, dump it all on God. Don't hold back at all. He wants it. But, and look at the gift where you're getting so upset, you're so frustrated, you're grieving, you're feeling sorrow. That means that you had something so good before. And you can be grateful for that in the future.
Yeah.
That the things we're grieving today are the good things that we used to have. But when you know that those good things will come again, there's, there's beauty in that aspect too, of understanding the good will to come back.
Yeah.
Yeah. And there's, yeah, expanding on that, there's something in the contrast that the having experienced a lot of pain and loss in my life at various times, it does help me appreciate the joys and the gifts that much more. So, it's like the, the lower the lows, the higher the highs. And, uh, not that you want it to be a, a roller coaster, but
But life is,
What's that? But life is a roller coaster in a way.
The intensity of those experiences are often experienced in contrast.
Yeah.
Well, who knew that talking about imposter syndrome would get so deep?
I had no idea. But I, you know, I, I know it's something we're all wrestling with. Every single one of us. And
Anybody with an ego?
Yeah.
Yeah. That's all of us.
Oh, dang it.
Yeah. So, thanks guys. Thanks for helping me explore this and,
I don't know, share my experience too. It's always humbling and I love, I love just exploring it with you and learning from you. So, thank you.
Well, and you also teach us.
Yeah, you teach us.
Yeah.
Imposter syndrome coming in. It's all about enjoying the journey. Enjoying the journey.
Yeah. Yeah. So maybe in, I don't know, month, two months, maybe a quarter, sometime in 2026, maybe come back to this and see if any of this stuff has helped shift your perspective.
Yeah.
To where you're holding it different. I'd love to revisit and find out.
Yeah. Okay, I will.
Here's a challenge from your team.
Challenge from your team.
Yes. Yes. Always. Um, when you're ready, sell one of your artworks.
That sounds so scary.
Okay.
But it's actually, it's kind of, Yeah. Okay. Okay. I could explain in a way, but I'm not going to.
Just receive.
Just receive that. At some point in the future, that's going to happen.
Yeah. Okay. But what's cool about that is moving that whole idea of "Who am I to" now, "How do I?" It shifts it. It also shifts your imposter side, your human side to, "Okay, now I guess I've accepted this." And the next step.
From "Who am I to" to "How do I?"
Any, that's like a.
I love that. It's a wonderful shift.
Oh, yeah. Oh my goodness. What I love is, is, um, Lynn is really good at this, that when you set a goal, don't just set a big pie in the sky goal. Set all of your baby steps to get there.
So, what's a step you could set right now that steps you one little step closer to selling that artwork?
Oh, man.
That is true. So, one thing, yeah, thank you. One thing I'll mention on that is, yeah, if, if you're stuck, you're like, "I don't know what to do next." You're not looking small enough.
Yeah. It looks smaller. Atomic steps, baby steps.
Yeah. Just come down and, and, yeah. If it feels too big, you haven't broken it down enough.
Okay.
Just look at what is the absolute next step I need to do. And then like,
Stuck in like a, oh, this is big. This is like, it's gotta, I got to like take time to digest this. From that is such a good line from "Who am I to" to "How do I?" Because that shifts it in a moment. I can recognize the imposter syndrome has come in and literally like, okay, nope, you're done. I've heard you. Thanks for your opinion. How do I?
Let's go. So, um, yeah, and, and to look smaller if it still feels too big. So, I love this. Thank you. Actionable steps.
Yeah.
Even, even the babyest, smallest. Yeah.
Yeah. Thanks, guys. Thank you.
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