Camilla Araújo on Bhad Bhabie, Alabama Barker, Ash Trevino and MORE.. - Ep. 113

Hello and welcome back to the Canell Podcast. Oscar's going to walk through the shot right now. We're honestly going to leave it in. Look at that BTS. Flawless. Hi Brookie. Cookie. Hello, my queen. I'm so jealous of your outfit right now. I, I literally walked into the store. I wanted it so bad. Here's the thing. Is what I'm going to say, we love Miss Helsa, and we love Miss Helsa. The brand is great. These, the pants are too big for me, way too big. And that's me and my dysmorphia. Like, why are you ordering a 2XL? You're literally medium. Ordered a 2XL or an XL. Just, they're too big. I don't know. Um, and then just grabbing them today, like in my hands, the button flew off. And I was like, oh, $300. But you know, you know what's the problem with an outfit like that? I wear it one time and then it doesn't matter how I store it. I could literally store it in like a, a perfect little bag. It's going to be so wrinkly. I can never wear it ever again.

Oh, I thought you were going to say just because it's like, kind of memorable. Like it's like, I'm striped girl. I can't rewear a thousand times. Yeah, I do love a rewear these days. Honestly, with my addicted top that is the number nine, but Isabella said it looks like the letter Y and now I can't unsee it. But why also feels like a message I am constantly sending to the world. Why? I want to talk about why. Actually, okay, I've debated, really debated bringing this to the podcast. Well, I should also say that today, we are having Miss Camil from the Bop House on the podcast. From lots of things. She just interviewed Ash Travino, all the things. I mean, it's so funny. We go back and forth on if we want to be the TikTok drama podcast or not. And then I just think people sometimes people don't want us to be an interview podcast. I agree. I'm hoping. Well, the reason what sold me is I'm going to the Bop House at the end of March. That's so exciting. I cannot wait to see the content. I am so, I am so excited. But I called her and it was supposed to be just like a five-minute call and then we ended up being on the phone for like 45 minutes. You know how sometimes you do not enjoy that and it feels as though you wish we, you still had minutes and you could be like, my minutes are running out. But it was the exact opposite with her. Like, I really enjoyed the call. It was a great conversation. I was like, oh, [ __ ] yeah. She's very smart. Yeah. Like, if it, if it was just an interview, I feel like I wouldn't. But like, I feel like it's going to be a Kiki with the girls. Hopefully.

But also, I'm wrong a lot. I'm wrong more than she is. It's every time I think an episode or an interview is going to be a banger. Actually, just afterwards, I should lay on the 405. That's something we should talk about. We never really mentioned that. The fact that like, almost every single episode ever that's come out and been like a major controversy, we've sat down after and been like, that was amazing. Oh, that's funny. That's not what I thought you were going to say. But you're so right. Like, I think my finger's so on the pulse. Or even just, I'm like, this will do so well. And then it's everyone's like, why the [ __ ] would you do that? Yeah, it's really actually crazy. So off the pulse. But I did just like love watching her interview Ash Travino. And it's interesting. I want to know what happens at the Bop House. I want to know. She's, she's team Bad Baby. I feel like she told me some intel on the phone the other day that I'm wondering if she'll share. But as we do, before our guest comes, we like to just yap a little to the girls. Absolutely.

Now, I want to know why. Why? Okay, I just, I don't ever like bitching about my new house that I just bought. Okay. And everyone gets so on me for constantly saying this phrase, but it's so true. Like, obviously, if you told 15-year-old me with the dirty door that she would be able to do this, it's the most grateful thing on planet Earth. But I was debating between two houses. Okay. And I think about the one that I passed on a lot. Okay. There was mold. There was a lot wrong with it. I would have had to put like, damn, a million dollars into this house. But it was cheaper. So it would have ended up being the same price, kind of. I decided in the final moments that it just wasn't the right decision for my first house to be a house that has a lot of mold, a fixer upper. Yeah. You know, like, canana loves MTT. We just, we, we need to let that die. And I, so I picked this house that everyone, and I'm talking inspectors and my realtor and all the people around me, it's perfect. You know, we get all the inspections, it's perfect. Nothing is wrong with it. Even the inspectors are like, I haven't seen a house with this little problems in so long. It just, it felt so right. And then I move in and it's just like, as everything keeps going wrong, everything costs $10,000. Everything. Everything costs. Like the other day, for example, we keep trying to heat the pool, right? And we're just, we're trying to heat the pool. We're using the apps, we're doing all the things. And it keeps saying it is, but it isn't. How long? It takes a long time, right? Oh, yeah. We're trying for days before the Super Bowl party. We're trying to do our thing. Whatever. We go into the pool heater and it is made known to us that this is a home for rats. The rats are, they've got a two-story condo. They're, they're catching a vibe in my pool heater wires, completely chewed through. And I'm like, okay, perfect. Let's get a new pool heater. How much? $8,000. Honestly, that sounds about right. $8,000 for a pool heater. I will rub sticks together myself. I get it. But it's just like, there's got to be a way around that. Like, what do you mean it's $8,000? And that's everything. Like, the HVAC system's kind of shitty. Like, and it's just like, there's another 10. And then it's like, I wanted a Yale lock on the door. And Yale comes to install it. And Yale is, what's Yale lock? Um, be boop, boop. Number. Oh, I like that. I lose keys. You know, uh-huh. And Yale is the esteemed company. It's the best in the business. They come out and the guy installs it wrong. Then he tells me to go [ __ ] myself. He tells me, I'm sorry, I installed it wrong. You're going to have to pay for someone else to install it right. Second guy, third guy. Now it's apparently it's a Yale problem. I have to take it up with Yale. The lock was just, they gave me a faulty [ __ ] lock. I can't even get in my house. Like, oh, and it's, I'm missing things too. I don't even know what I'm missing.

Well, I think you were about to tell us about your chandelier. Well, yes, wallpaper removal was also like $5,000. And I just really thought it was going to be some guy with a butter knife and like 600 bucks. It's just, I'm still upset about that though. That was like, that was, you know, those TikToks of people like taking the character away from home. Oh, here you go. That's what happened. No, that wallpaper was so Karen Maga central. Like, it was just giving angry bored mom with lots of fake plants. It was just, what's Maga about liking the the planet? In fact, I would say it's anti-Maga. No, it's not about liking the planet. That wallpaper just gives Karen galore. Like, I don't know how to explain it. Like, you know that the cursive "Love, Ken," the cursive writing, "Live, Laugh, Love" Millennial. It was so "Live, Laugh, Love" Millennial. I'm going to limewash it soon. We'll have character. I'll hang a painting. Don't worry.

I want to talk about our podcast studio. Okay, everyone's like, oh, we hate this studio. Me too. Sorry. I'm kidding. I don't hate this studio. It's haunted. But we're building a podcast studio. And for some reason, I think this is going to take five minutes. You know, I'm like, it'll take five minutes. Peel and stick. We'll have a studio. Boom. Bing, bang, boom. Another thing that's also $225,000. Today, they came and they started building. And they let us know very soon before this is something I feel like I should have known all along that the chandelier must be removed from the room. Okay. And in my opinion, no, the [ __ ] it doesn't need to be removed. I'm going to say, I saw, I told you, I was like, that's going to have to be removed. It does. It's too low. People will hit their head. Tall guests go down to like here. It's definitely supposed to be over like a table. I think 100%. And yeah, we have to get it removed. And then last night, a TaskRabbit comes to remove it. A chandelier remover. Can I say something? Yes. And I'm not hating on your like, but is TaskRabbit the right place to find somebody who's doing a task like that? Yes. Really? I kind of feel like it's like, you feel like it's boof. I feel like it's a little boof. Like, I love TaskRabbit. I live and die by TaskRabbit. But it's kind of like getting like a Groupon for something really that you shouldn't get a Groupon for. Like a Groupon for a boob job. Okay, that's like a really no. And I'm going to, I'm going to have to honestly agree with you after my last 24 hours. But the thing is also is that the second you start going through an official company, everything's $7,000. And then they, you still can't get in your front door. It's, there's just, there's no winning for me with this [ __ ] lately. And the guy comes, he needs a ladder. And I'm just like, dude, this is what you do. This is your bread and butter. What do you mean you don't have a ladder? It's like Alexis Oakley showing up with no brushes. Like, I literally, I can't even. Maybe he assumed that because you have like a big beautiful. I feel like a lot, most houses have like a ladder on the side of the house. Like that's like a, a house staple. But I also like completely understand why you don't have a ladder. That's again, that's like Alexis Oakley assuming because I'm so beautiful that I have makeup brushes. That's a good. You know what I mean? I'm kidding. But I don't have a [ __ ] ladder. Okay. I have a stepping stool. It's not [ __ ] high enough. Okay. Could we have given him a boot? Like, was there anything that he could have stood on that was? How? I mean, if it hangs so low, how high does he have to be? The ceiling is very, very high. And it does like hang low. I don't know. And then my security decides that he's going to go get a ladder. And he goes to the ladder stores. And they are sold out of ladders. So now I'm paying this TaskRabbit overtime to tell Ana all about his nasal problems. And the chandelier is still hanging. It's so beautiful. And the only thing too that in the back of my head, I was like, you know what, once the chandelier is down, I'm going to put that [ __ ] on OfferUp and I'm going to make my money back. Okay. Meanwhile, security, once again, he goes to the second ladder store. They are sold out of ladders. He comes back tail between his legs. Nothing. We look this guy with his deviated septum, his nasal issues in the eye. And we say, can you come back in the morning before the builders come? We'll get you a ladder. M. He comes back in the morning. He now has assisted height. He walks into the room. He begins to unscrew the chandelier. And it falls to the ground and shatters.

Next question. In what world could it have possibly been a one-person job? Because like, if you think about that, that's a him. That's on him. That's no. That's what I was going to say. It's not your fault at all. But in my head, I'm like, there's no, no matter how much talent you have, how are you going to get a chandelier out of the ceiling with just one guy? And at that point, I would have rather given Mcoa an Adderall and a stool. Because at least he cares. By the way, it's not like, like, it's a bit. It's like taking this table from the ceiling. Like, no, I agree. It's just like, I don't, you know, that's not my expertise. Chandeliers, right? I'm assuming the chandelier expert knows how to remove the chandelier. And now I can't even [ __ ] sell it. Then he's gaslighting the [ __ ] out of on saying that it was just installed improperly. And if we had an earthquake, someone would have died. And me as a TaskRabbit though, I'm like, [ __ ] like that sucks. That this is completely someone else's fault. And maybe it is, you know what I mean? Even the pool heater, I'm like, I was researching like, whose fault is that? And like, I could sue my realtor, but like, I love her, you know? It's like, I'm just, and then that would also just cost $8,000. It, I just think that people market buying a new, a brand new home or a really new home as just like, you're done. And like, and like a really smart financial decision. You'll never regret it. It's an investment. But I, I just had this talk with somebody else who was explaining the same thing to me. He was like, like, it's no longer more financially like smart because by the time, like, you know, it increases like X amount of dollars in the time that you own it, but you put that amount in or more. So like, oh my God, that face is going to get clipped and there's going to be another Botox TikTok. Oh my God, that Botox TikTok was, yeah, like 8 million views. I just want to say, I'd rather have a frozen face and then when I make that one face, it's weird. But then like, I don't have wrinkles. I completely agree with you. It's like Kim Kardashian's crying face. Like everyone made fun of it. But like, then look at her. Kim Kardashian's face. Face. Yeah, I'm with you. But I don't know. Whatever.

Well, I'm sorry that's happening to you. I am still proud of you providing your house. And I hope this doesn't deter you or this doesn't make you regret your decision. It's the most champagne problem, literally on planet Earth. That I know. That I just think that I wish someone told me like, you're going to bleed money on the most random [ __ ] and it's not even going to be like cosmetic [ __ ] that makes the value of the house go up. Like pool heaters are $8,000. And just my luck, it's, I always say I have the, the best worst luck. You know, like, I'm so lucky to be able to buy this house, but like, of course, rats. It's going to happen in like, the most unfortunate way. Of course, rats live in the pool heater. And of course, the chandelier was hanging on with bubblegum. And of course, just, I don't know, just all the things. And that's like one of like a thousand other things. So it's just like, wild. Like even just her full-time job is like a house, house [ __ ]. That's so, that's like most people. Like really rich people have like property managers. Like that's their whole job is like to handle all those things all day long. And I miss Hollywood. I know you do. But I like, I think that that'll go away over time because I like, really love your area so much. I do too. And I think I just thought the adjustment would take like two weeks. Time to be like, oh, I live further. And like, I used to always in my Jake Paul era go back and forth from Calabasas. Just happened.

I take. I'm so sorry. [ __ ] Teresa Caputo. I am [ __ ] Teresa Caputo. Because what the [ __ ] was that? There's. I'm about to put my hair up. What are we wearing it? Yes. I, I promise you. I don't. I feel so validated. I feel so seen. I'm never doubting you again. I, I apologize profusely. No, I feel so seen. Literally just. No, I feel so seen. No, I feel so seen. No, I, I'm so sorry. I'm just repeating myself. I have like a stimming issue. And I'm not even scared because I knew. It's so crazy how many times you've like drilled into my head that this place is haunted. And I'm like, oh, come on. And I promise you, it's nothing. I just know it. You. We need to get into that. We need to have somebody come sage you or something. I feel. No, but it's like, I leave here and I'm fine. Like, I just. You feel the energy. I don't know how to explain. Who can tell you? Who can like measure you for that? I don't know. I'm clairvoyant. Wait, that was so crazy. I wish we could have watched that back. I saw like, it literally like, dude, even the other day, I didn't podcast about this because I thought I would just sound skits. But now here we [ __ ] are. Okay, here we [ __ ] are. I was walking into LA and I have this like extreme vision that I'm going to run into one of Mo's son's friends. And I see it. And then I think in my own head, I'm like, that wasn't my thought. And why am I having that thought? That's so weird. Like, why am I going to run into Mo's son's best friend, Brennan, right now? And I just think about how weird it is. And I go through TSA and sure as [ __ ] he's there. And he's like, hi Tana, how are you? And in my head, I'm trying to have a normal conversation with him, but I'm like, I just knew this was going to happen 10 minutes ago. That's so weird. I don't know what that is. Is now I have a weird taste in my mouth that wasn't there before. Am I? That was crazy. I like, I'm having chest pain. I feel bad. But I feel like there's, there's been so many times now that I've doubted you. You've been right. And I regret it. And I should never doubt you again. And I really do apologize about that. Yeah, I think I'm psychic. And like, maybe I'm crazy. That could be.

I'm excited to have Camila on and get all the tea. Let's get her in here. I think she's here. Yay. You and I had like a five-minute phone call because I'm coming in hot to the Bop House. Yes. And I'm so excited. Like the Bop House is so excited to have you. I am so excited. I just like feel like I randomly insert myself into certain things, certain TikTok things. And I, this one I was like, I'm the OG Bop. I've been a Bop forever. I got a Bop to the top. I'm so excited. And I just love Miami. Like, I'm just so excited. But anyways, it was supposed to be like a five-minute call and then you and I were on the phone for like 45 minutes reading everyone to filth. The amount of tea you have in your arsenal is crazy. And it's just hard being. I feel like the Ash Travino interview also, like, elevated you to like such a different plane because it's one thing, like the Bop House is insane. It's huge. It's killing it. You're killing it. You're so hot. But you said, I'm an interviewer too. And I'm a personality. I think a lot of the times TikToks are like, they're like, like 30 seconds, 60 seconds. And like, I'm like, no, no, no, no. Like, I'm not. Guys, I swear I'm funny. I swear I can be funny. And so I'm like, okay, who the [ __ ] is this Ash Travino girl? So yeah, how did that all even like, I'm about. And I'm going to ask you. I want you to tell. I don't know enough about her. I keep saying I don't want to platform her. But I guess I'm not. If it's because you are on the opposite side, the right side of history. There, you know, which is good. So God, she's so ancient. The whole reason this started, right? Because what I don't know if you noticed, once you start, once you see one video, game over. It's a black hole. Takes over your life. Damn. But I never in my entire life have I seen her actual account. It's people reposting her lives. I don't even know she has. I thought for a second I blocked her or something. She has like two accounts with like 300K. Like, it's almost like everyone loves watching her live. No one gives a [ __ ] what she's doing. Has she ever like posted a video? Does Ash Travino have any like videos she fully posted a video being like, like it's like a selfie and it's like, the Bop House sucks. They're like, like that. Like she made like a diss at the Bop House. I'm like, okay, period. At least I made it on the main page. And isn't she like, how old is she? She claims allegedly 36, but she's 43 because she has 1981 tattooed on her body. And somebody, somebody in her life said she was 43. I think. Doesn't she give like birth year tattooed on her? One trillion percent. Yeah, 100%. Or like maybe one of her like inmate. Ooh, like, you know what I'm saying? Like one of your inmate husbands. You see the videos. Duh. You're going down the rabbit hole. Duh. As we, as we all do, unfortunately. And then how did it? I, I would say that I'm, I could re. I, I understood the assignment, right? I'm like, okay, she lies for clout. She does all this [ __ ] for clout. I'm like, so [ __ ] let's, let's, let's have a podcast. Let's have a little, let's have a little fun, right? You want to have a conversation? Let's have a conversation. Meaning, and I told her this in person. I said on live, it's easy to sit on your phone and just talk, you know, you're, you can't read the comments that fast. But when it's like this, I'm like, did you or did you not sleep with Blink? Like, you can't, you can't just avoid it. You can't just not, you can't just sit, thank someone for a Galaxy call it a day. That [ __ ] part. So I was like, I reached out to her daughters because because I was like, what I don't want is to give her the opportunity to continue to lie. No one would have ever known that she sold her daughter out for a [ __ ] Galaxy if her daughter wasn't there to say it. Yeah, you can read. And here's the thing, it, the truth will, I will always be, you know, for the truth, you know, so having her kids there, it was, um, such a smart move. I think when you watch a podcast, you can read body language, you can, you know, there's so many cameras and so it's like, you'll be able to tell it from the facial expressions. And I feel like the girls told the story, maybe not verbally, but with their face. And I needed that. Every time her mom would say something, it was like, the hospital sellout thing was like crazy. It's, I feel like that podcast did like, because there were so many people before, I think supporting her. And it almost did like shine a whole new light on. Wait, hey, Ash Travino for prison, right? And it's like, it's so funny. She's like suing everyone. Like, I wonder if she's going to try me. But I'm curious, like, how did you get her to agree to it? Like, like, what incentive did she have? It was all on live. It happened on live. No [ __ ] it happened on live. I texted her. I, I, I DM'd her daughter. I said, hey, I'd love to have you and your mom on the podcast because Ash Travino loves to act like she doesn't know who people [ __ ] are. Be so, what's called [ __ ] for real. She's like, who's Ice Spice? Ho, you were listening to her two seconds ago. Yeah. Anyway, so her daughter calls into, I guess on her other phone. And she was like, yo, this girl from the, from the Bop House wants you and I to go on her podcast. Like, we have to go. And she's like, obviously hits the who's that line, whatever. I'll let that one go. She was like, oh, I'm going to do this to make my daughters happy. My daughters seem so excited about this. Like, in reality, the daughters are probably just excited for some truth out there. Which is also just like, I will say, uh, this is the first time I've talked about it. I have reached out to, to Haley specifically. And I asked, like, I did say, like, hey, like, are you okay? Like, is there something I can do? Like, are you okay? I'm sorry if I've caused you any harm. I meant nothing. But you know, I wanted you to be there to tell your story. Yeah. And she even, she was like, absolutely. Like, um, I'm, I'm totally fine. Me and my sister okay. Thank you for checking in. Yeah. But I, I truly did it so there was no question of, you know, is she lying? Is she not? You know, you saw it right then and there. It happened. We were there. Like, all together. Like, it happened live. Yeah. So I think where, like, where she kind of went off on me was it was not painted in the way she thought it was. Yeah. And she was just pissed. That was my question. Like, pissed. Did she think it was going to be like an idiot? You were on her side. Literal [ __ ]. Did you think was going to happen? Like, if you could be so [ __ ] for real for a second. Yeah. What in the. You think I'm a fan? You think I'm going to. She, she's delusional. She really does feel like people, she has fans and supporters. And like, people. She sat there dead ass before the podcast started and said, I literally hate that I have to go everywhere with security. And I just feel like I miss my old life. Really quick. I saw her saying that on live and then ran into her at the airport. Not a soul insight. She's completely alone. Like nobody's approaching her. By the way, security is also expensive. And I know she's making a lot of money. You see her walk around with the guy with like big security across his shirt, you know, it's just her friend in like, I've bought those security jackets. Get off of Amazon for $39. So I don't want to hear it. For a Halloween costume with a lace bra, right? And a little badge. It's like a little plastic badge. You can [ __ ] snap in half. Like I'm over it, dude. So I mean, obviously, it's just over, right? Like, you're never going to talk to her again. Duh. And like, no. So, but she tried. Did she try to sue you? Sorry. She, she well, she went on live and was like, she'll be hearing from my [ __ ] people. And then I was like, I made a joke, right? Reach first. People. It's so concerning. And so I made a joke. I was like, I've been sent like three cease and desist this [ __ ] year. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to call my [ __ ] attorney and we're going to cease and desist her ass. And good for you. Because it's like, people really do try to scare people. You know, that's just her doing that. And like, in the beginning of your career too. Like, the first couple times that, and especially so soon for you, you know what I mean? Like, you blow up and now you're like, catching all these cases. Like, that's enough to make someone like shut up and stop and be afraid and all the things. And I think it's really good that you're not. Because it's just like, and you'll probably end up winning half of them if you really want to go to [ __ ] litigation anyways. But no, I don't think anyone wants to go there. And to be very honest with you, like, everyone does say like, oh, Camil is like a marketing queen. Like, yeah, I'm one thing I'm not is [ __ ] stupid. Like, I am smart. I know what I'm doing. Like, mhm. Do I really genuinely? Am I actually like hurt over the season? Just like, no. But what was the other one? Alabama, though. Alabama. Um, I got threatened by, uh, the Blonde House. Uh, that guy. Dude, I could get. I didn't know there was house on house beef. Okay, okay. So we'll get into that. That's [ __ ] insane. I got a call from their lawyers, their attorneys. And they're like, y, if you don't take this [ __ ] down, like, we're going to. They're filing a police report. But that's a whole different thing. This is so wild. It's like, just bring internet beef back. Even Alabama. It's like, you want to be a serious, in my opinion, yes. And it's like, you, you can't say that you want to be a rapper. And then the second someone is detesting you, you're running to Dad and like ceasing. And I, I genuinely, I'm going to be very honest with you. I didn't think it was for real. The second she was like, I, I got the letter. I was like, oh, yeah, okay, cool. Like, I'll just shut up because like, I don't care. Like, I don't need this. I don't need this. Like, to be honest with you. And like, yeah, like obviously I'm a Bad Baby fan. Like, to the day I die. Like, I rock for that girl. Like, she's [ __ ] amazing. Um, and I just, I love women in STEM. I just think like, for me, it wasn't that deep. I think I actually probably hurt her or hit a spot that kind of hurt. And just the feeling of like, I'm losing. And then like, you have all those resources. Fine. Like, so I just shut up. Just cool. Like, I don't need it. I don't need it. Like, next you know saying issues. Like, whatever.

How did that start? Or can you? Are we ceased and we desisted? I mean, nothing's a lie. It was, um, someone commented under my video and was like, yo, you should add, uh, Miss Girl to the Bop House. And I was like, oh, I would never, given that the story with her and Bad's man, Levon. And so I was like, I would never. I just think that's kind of trashy to go after someone else's man. Then it spiraled. She answered. I was like, oh, bet. And she was kind of like, shaming too. Yeah. Yeah. Which is wild. Yeah. Yeah. Her mom did the original off. Right. Playboy. Yeah. Which fire, by the way. Not that's great. Yes. That's what I'm saying. It's like, you should be. It's in your blood. You should be nothing but supportive of this. Like, and I think a lot of people around her too, also do. Mhm. So I thought it. I, I do think when she expressed that, it everyone else in her life was kind of like, hold up. Yeah. Be so strange. It's like, if I were to say, like, that's so disgusting. And like, yeah. And it's like, I'm like, you know, and you're sitting there like, right. Strange. It was just, yeah, it was just odd. So I, I was like, okay, like, I guess we're taking shots there. Well, I also think it's just, you're in a very wild position. I appreciate that you continue to say like, no, I'm [ __ ] smart. And so on and so forth. Because it's like, the Bop P, right? Like, people are going to immediately just want to diminish you to like, you know what I mean? A Bop and a dumb girl. And, and you know what I mean? Just the, even just the way people treat me. Like the second you do, people are going to immediately just say you're so stupid. You. What I think is so insane. And I had this conversation earlier today. People are brands, even, you know, they won't work with you if you don't only this, that, and the third. But it's like, why? We convert so [ __ ] well. The Bop House right now is on [ __ ] fire. And if you can't, like, I almost want to be the one that like, can break through that. That that stigma. And yeah, sure, I understand like, it's not the most glamorous industry. And but I feel like people also say like, like, it's not horrible. It's going to continue to take people like you to slowly knock down that wall. That may take 25 years to really knock it down. The first person that does it, I promise you, is going to [ __ ] change it. Well, it's all of us. I think it's, we're all like one brick of knocking it down, you know? And I, I appreciate you saying not to glamorize it. Because I think even I did that for so long. Because it's like, we have this amazing story. And like, whatever. And recognizing that we are, you know what I mean? Like, just the, not the 1%, but it's not this. It is not like this for everyone. And and I, but at the same time, like, I feel like people talk about it in a way where it's like sex. Like we're like, we're being like sex trafficked. And we're being like pimped out. And we like this. Not a choice. This is a. I willingly making this decision. For a lot of us, it's, it's our decision. A very conscious choice that we're making. It's also, I always say the best way to describe it is it's so case by case. What works for me, might not work for you. Why I did it, might not be why you do it. Why I'm doing it and why you're doing it is not why Samantha watching right now should do it. You know what I mean? Like, it is one of those things that's just so personal. And so long as you're honest about that, that's just the truth. Like, for me, it was like, I was getting sexualized from 15 and up. And I wanted to be in my bag about it, you know? And for you, it's like, you wanted to do this [ __ ].

I started with Mr. Beast. I was in college. He was in my college town. I used to. What? Yeah. I blew up off a Mr. Beast video. Squid Games. Tell now. Tell now. Tell now. This is in like 2021. Okay. So I went to, uh, ECU, which is where like he's in Greenville. Like that's like known. So I was working for one of North Carolina. I know that. I know [ __ ]. And I love it there. Yeah. We talk about. I really love North Carolina. Isn't that where all the Nicholas Sparks books are based? And it feels like that. You're there. Like the greenery and the [ __ ] house of the water. I love the Carolinas up there. Yeah. Anyway, I, I went to to ECU and I was working at, um, like a bar there. And I met a videographer that worked for him. So I started working for him. And then I ended up getting mixed into like personal assistant jobs for, um, him. And he would. Anyways, so so interesting. What was that like? One day, great. One thing I will always say, Mr. Beast and his people are some of the most genuine, kindest people I've ever met in my entire life. He has, he has always been so nice to me. But I saw him recently. He knew exact. Bro, I haven't seen him since like 2021. He saw me. He knew exactly who I was. Like he remembered. Like, you know what I'm saying? Don't do that. No. Let's be so for real. Like, no. He knew exactly who I was. He asked how I was doing. Like, also, I was friends with Carl and and the rest of the crew just from being around. But, um, regardless, we filmed Squid Games. Uh, it was supposed to be fun. Like, what happened was the, the first couple days of filming Squid Games, they, uh, there was a malfunction. Did you ever watch the, the Mr. Beast? So you know when someone died, like there's like a little thing that like it like and like it pops or whatever. Those were called squibs. And so when you would get out, everyone in the room, like all like the guards had an iPad and they would click your number and it would just pop. And then there would be a shot of it. Move on to the next round. Whatever. So there was a massive malfunction. And there were 456 people involved. So half of the people didn't show up the next day. So they were scrambling, calling people, calling contestants in to be able to to fill the spots and start shooting the next day. And then one of the guys, the guy that I was working for, was like, yo, yo, yo, do you want to be in a video? Like, bring a couple friends. I was like, bet. Awesome. We showed up the next day. We filmed, um, I ended up bringing my friend at the time. That's, I don't even want to talk about that. But that ended very quickly after the, after the Squid Games video. But, um, when the video came out, literally, I'm not joking, 24 hours after the video came out. I started off with 7,000 followers. Regular college student. I woke up the next morning to 145,000 followers in one day. Wow. I did not know that went so viral on Twitter. Everyone like ended up finding my account. And then men, mainly. Yeah, no, like it was like a mix. I would say it was like a mix of people because I guess the Mr. Beast audience is mixed. Mixed. But when it got on Twitter, I guess it was more men. Yeah. So then it translated to TikTok. And so I literally for a week straight was just gaining and gaining and gaining. And I'm like, oh my God, like, I know I've always wanted to be like a personality on the internet. I did modeling for a really long time before all of this. So that was something I was pursuing. And I was like, oh my God, this is like my in. Like, this is like my time to shine. This is my moment. And it's the people who jump on that who end up. And I [ __ ] failed miserably. Miserably. Miserably. Miserably. I did like, I had, um, I did for like, like the first month was great, right? Because when you're popping, you know, people want to work with you. I worked with Noah Beck. Like, I got to meet some really cool people. I was like, oh my God, like, I am in my [ __ ] era. Like, what is good? Right? Then after like, it dies down. Mind you, small town was in college. One second, the next, you work with some of the people that you've watched your entire life. Yes. Right? Uh-huh. What I didn't know what to do with it. What direction do you take it in? I had, I was just, I was literally throwing [ __ ] like darts at a, like with a blindfold. Nothing sticking. I felt so demotivated. I, I wrote actually two TV shows. Because like, one thing I'm really good at, no one knows about. I'm a really good writer. I'm a very good writer. Like, I love the television industry. Like, it's just my thing. Like, I can write. Good for you for like, [ __ ] you know, taking all the things. Everything. Like, I was making YouTube videos. I was, I was making no money. Like, I was asking my parents to like, help me fund [ __ ] and like, it was a whole thing. And and and they were so excited that this was all happening. Like, stop. Don't even. I cry. Talk my parents are the most supportive people ever. They, uh, they were like, no, like, we'll take out a loan. Like, we want to help you with this. Like, guys, I did everything. And, um, I was, I, I really was so broke. And I told myself, like, I will not go back to school. Like, I'm not going to give myself an option. Determined queen. Not because I don't believe in having an education. I just think it was, I was in for like, a business degree. Originally started off with nursing. Because, uh, I loved. I like science. Science is like, what I'm really, really good at. No [ __ ] beer. And I'm crashing out. Dude. No, like that's my [ __ ] chemistry. Like, eat me down. Like, yes, I'm a [ __ ] [ __ ] for chemistry. Like, that'll be our O collab. Yeah. Like, oh, my a little LA only a lab coat. Oh, amazing. Kind of Jean Gaultier. That's kind of hot. Yeah. No. And then you making some potions and [ __ ]. Like, stop. It's just lube. I see it now. Anyway. And I just think in general, like, if you're going to college for business major, it's half those girls that end up getting it and then wanting to be an influencer with it. You know? Yes. Right. So anyway, they're the most supportive. Sh. They're the most supportive parents in the [ __ ] world. And, um, I went, I had no money. And I was like, okay, I kind of brought up the idea. I was like, what if I do? And I'm like, but I, because I was posting [ __ ] bikini pictures and lowkey being a [ __ ] on the internet anyway. So what the, what the [ __ ] I was posting like all up on Instagram. So what I was like, might as well make a bag. So as soon as I brought that up, so I'm, I'm Latina. I'm from Brazil. And, um, that's like a big no no. You just don't do that. You, you just don't do that. No, like my parents are like Catholic and very like religious. And I kind of told them. I was like, well, what if I did this? And like, I was like, what if I was making like 100k a month? They're like, you're never going to achieve that. And they were very upset about it. Obviously, like, honestly, as a parent should be. I was young. And I put it off for a really long time. But once I failed, I failed for like a straight. We're talking like year and a half. They were begging me to go back to to school. They were like, just go do community college. Do something. I'm like, no, I refuse. Like, I genuinely refuse. Good for you. Met this guy, moved to Orlando. And was like, you know what, [ __ ] that [ __ ]. I was like, I'm risking it all. One thing about me, like, oh, I'm going. If I'm going out, I'm going out with the mother [ __ ] bang. Okay. Like, if I'm going out, like everyone's going to [ __ ] know about it. Yeah. And high risk, high reward too. You know? So I was like, you know what? My boyfriend at the time didn't care that I was going to start. I was like, [ __ ] this [ __ ]. Like, I'm going to do it. M. I did. And my parents were like, not, they were not cool with it. I'm very, very transparent. They were like, okay, well, if you're going to do this, you're 100% supporting yourself financially. Period. That's it. And I was like, all right, [ __ ] it. I'll make it work. Was working three jobs. I actually, I actually worked at a real estate development company. Um, and, uh, you're like behind the scenes. Like, I did. I worked in real mortgage. Daddy. Yeah. Like, I was working for real estate development. I was working at a bar in Orlando. And I was doing. Same time. You're a hustler. And I love that about you. I do. [ __ ] this is real [ __ ] T. I had to leave the real estate job because the head of the company, I actually signed a legal document that I can't say the company's name or him. Here we are. But, did he subscribe? He sexually. Like, oh, like what's it like? He did not assault me. It was like, um, harassment. Yes. I've been learning the difference between that these days. You have to. You have to very clearly. He, I was, yeah, he came in and told a story about his sex life to me. And it was very off. They didn't have HR. They had HR, but like, it wasn't like really established. So he wrote me a really good settlement check. I went to Portugal with it. Came back, changed my [ __ ] life.

Was [ __ ] you know, doubling down and only so then, how long were you doing O solo? Like, how did the Bop House come about?

Right, I was doing O solo for like, this is going on year three. So I was doing it for like two years with this guy I met in LA when I came the first time. He was the one kind of like, "You should start." I don't know, I was so against it for so long. You can find clips of me on the internet that say I would never. Yeah, [ __ ] I did, and I again. So true.

Anyway, I did it for like two years and then I really doubled down. And then I was like, "Oh, it actually wasn't brought up by me." A lot of people think that I'm like the, I run the Bop House. Like, no, babe. Like, I thought that everyone, I don't know why you just give. I run such a big personality. I think that's what it is. A lot of the girls are very, cuz Sophie is kind of quiet. She is. She's very quiet. She's very like to herself. She's such a sweet soul, to be very honest with you. She's very, she's funny, but she's like quirky and like, but that's almost all the girls. But you need this to be right. Like, I'm like the, like I give, you know what I mean? So, wow, I can't believe that just was used right now. That's [ __ ] iconic. You're, you're it was my favorite time. The best era ever.

So anyway, uh, it's literally like a group of, it's like a group decision. Like, we don't, there's no like decisions being made that are made by one person. Like, it's like, "Hey, should we do this?" So, are you guys, were you guys all just friends or like internet friends or like? Cuz here's what I think. I really do. I think it's so successful because it doesn't feel. I see these all the time in LA, right, where they get the [ __ ] McMansion and then some guy in a [ __ ] you know what I mean, Burlington Coat Factory suit gets [ __ ] six girls together and then everyone looks like they're being held at gunpoint. And I'm so not for it. And it feels like it's, you guys feel like you are so in control of it, which I think is so important.

We really are. We really are. I think it was, it's authentic. I, we didn't think it was going to be that big. Like, we just [ __ ] let's just [ __ ] do something. Let's call it the Bop House. We're making this money. Let's get a house, right? Like, it was kind of just like, "Yo, like, let's just [ __ ] around. Let's do this Bop House thing. Like, we, we're called Bobs. Like, let's do a Bop House."

What do you think about all the other houses too? Just all the people being so inspired? Or is it like, you know, the audio that's like, "No one is better than the original." Like, that's how I live my [ __ ]? Well, cuz even just like the Hype House, then you'd see all the ones after, like all the, the house, you know, came after for the Hype House. There's no other house. There was, what was it like, like Matty Monroe and them had like, not a content house, not a content house, they had. But no one's better than the original. It just cuz it's people trying. They always end in like flames. The Hype House and like these things, right? Like, you're like, they're ran by like a guy and this that and the third. And I think that a lot of the times, there's so many, there's so many hands in the pot, right? And I think that that's the biggest issue.

Is we all make our own money. That's it. Like, we all make our own individual money and no one's controlling us to do anything. So it's kind of just like, we do what we do because we all have the money to fund it ourselves. We don't need like these brand. Like, yes, obviously it helps, but it's not the, but it's not our main focus is not to be.

No, yeah. No, and that's what genuinely allows us to have fun. I think that's the biggest difference. Is we're all not depending on Monster or Celsius to [ __ ] pay out there. Cuz now I'm sure too, so many agencies are trying to create what you guys have. And suck my dick. And exactly. And are probably reaching out to these girls like, "This is going to be just like the Bop House." And it's like, "No, they're going to own you."

Not to mention, every single pitch is, "Let's start beef with the Bop House." I would be terrified. Just like, you're so good at articulating your words. I would be so afraid to have beef. And one thing, oh my God, he was reading Alabama to filth. I actually almost. It's so good. That's where I found you. I just like, one video, I was like, mesmerized. Even now, I'm watching you talk, I'm like, "Wow." Yeah, like, it, no, it's awesome. And it, you remind me so much of me before I had a lot of fear incited in me and trauma. And even just on the phone when we were talking, I was like, "Never lose this, this fire and this authenticity." And this, cuz I'm sure, and I'm sure you feel it right now though. People are trying to take that from you. The second that they see it, they want to sue you, beef with you, they want to. And I think that's kind of like, it's, that's like the low-key the fun part. I'm like, I'm like, "Okay, like, if this is how you're taking this, like, and you're trying to like silence me, like, I'm going to let people know you're trying to silence me."

I'm not going to get a cease and desist and say you're not going to cease or desist. No, I'm going to say, "A ho's going to stop talking because a [ __ ] got a cease and desist." And that's that. I'll never push it. I will be honest. I'll never push it because my, I, I want, honestly, I'm glad. I'm going to say this. I want everyone to know like, I'm not this problematic human being. Just [ __ ] with me and I'll [ __ ] back with you. Like, I'm not going to start. I'm not. I'll never attack anyone ever. That's just not my, that's not me.

Well, that's just how the world is too. They see an outspoken woman and they immediately want to put her in this. Even like Bad Bunny dealt with that so much. Like, and that's what I love about her. She'll, she's been the same since [ __ ] ever. Obviously, she's grown and she's matured and, you know, obviously people grow and people mature. But this like, she's so [ __ ] authentically herself. And she, when she does something, she [ __ ] stands on it. On her mistakes, everything she's ever done, she stood on it. Even if she's wrong, she was like, "I did that and that's that and let's move on." And that's something that I, and the world will try to take that from you as a woman so hard.

You know, I agree. I'm literally getting chills like thinking about it. So I'm putting this on. But like, and that's one of the things I told you on the phone. I was like, "You are so resilient. You've been through so much." Like, and that's so admirable because, you know, how many people wouldn't have continued? Do you know how many people would have given up? Do you know how many people would have like, just sat there and taken that and changed so many things about themselves that are so beautiful? Like, I think a lot of the times people just run away to stand in the face of the fire and say, "This is who I am and I'm willing to fall and get back up." Is it, is admirable and it's hard. It's so admirable and it's in, like, so many people can't do that because they're not confident enough in themselves or they haven't found peace within, you know? So I think that's the thing. It's like, "I [ __ ] up, but I know who I am and I'm willing to just like, put that all out there." Like, "Okay, here's me [ __ ] up and it made me this." Exactly.

I have [ __ ] up. It also helped having nothing to lose. I will say. You know, like, I'm all in with this. Exactly. And I think that that's, that's the difference too. Is like, when people start and and they feel like they have to be perfect, that's where you're going to [ __ ] up the most. Like, the, when you try to play this persona that you're not or authenticity, when play this role that you're not, you're going to [ __ ] up more because that's not what comes naturally to you. And when your intentions, I think a lot of people, you have to like, love this [ __ ]. You have to. And I can tell that you are so passionate about showing who you are and sharing it with the world and and hoping along the way that that inspires some people. I think a lot of people start social media and all of these things with different intentions. And then when the, when you face the fire, you're going to back down because your intentions were just money or your intentions were just this or, you know what I mean?

I say this a lot online, especially in like, I said, in the 30 second to a minute TikTok video, it's an exaggerated version of myself, right? It's not all of you. It's not all of me. It's one piece of me that you see for 60 seconds and that's all you get. And then you make an opinion on that. Love to hold on to that, you know what I mean? Like, I will forever be an idiot to so many people. As hard as I try to show the smart sides of myself and like, it can't. I don't know. You can't just harp on that. It's like, so what if people never [ __ ] know who I fully am? I'm still going to try. I'm still going to try. And and you're not going to do it for everyone else. You're going to do it for yourself. And that's the difference. Do it for you. Not for any F.

What the hell? Like, I feel like I'm at church right now, right? Like, preach. Come on, church. So, I, I really do. I have a lot of passion for it. I have a lot of passion just for entertaining. And I, I can tell. And I just love it. I like, I love people. It's, and I can, I just, I'm serious. I feel like you're going to have like, we're going to look back at this podcast almost and be like, "Oh my God, like, remember." Like, you're going to have the craziest. Cuz you're not backing down. And the world just needs more women like that. And it's just, you're everything. You are a powerhouse.

It irritates me that is [ __ ] the second there's any like, someone hands me my flowers. Like the second you say that, right, there's always that comment that's like, "Why would you ever, why would she ever be an icon if she doesn't immediately?" That is the first thing of everyone says. Like, "Why do these girls idolize her? Why do these girls look up to her when like, this is not someone to look up to?" Which is, and I've always struggled with this so hard too. Because it's like, but it's like, I, at least for me, I mean, it's like, they were going to sexualize either way. I think why can't it just be because I [ __ ] wanted to do? Why is that such a hard [ __ ] concept to understand? I said, "Hey, I just want to pop it. I want to pop this." Like, and that's okay. If that makes me feel good, that makes me feel good about myself. 100%. And it's fun. It's again, this is not everyone's scenario. I'm not glamorizing it. But you, there is something fun about like reclaiming a power that you not necessarily are supposed to have societally, right? And feeling hot and being young and doing it with your girls. Like, some of my favorite memories in the world are like, all me and my friends having a wine night and then popping our [ __ ]. Yeah, like, and period. And you're going to like, do it gracefully, amazingly, and make a bag. What the [ __ ] is the? Like, for me, I just don't, again, like, I just don't give a [ __ ]. But I like the going multifaceted with it too and just doing all the things that you want to do. I want to know like, what's up your sleeve? You're just, you're a [ __ ] with something up your sleeve. Like, what's coming? What are you excited about?

So, well, um, so as you know, a [ __ ] talk [ __ ] and period. I will stay talking [ __ ] tea. But I kind of wanted to, I want to veer into more something more positive and fun. Like, something. And I like that too. That you're not like, "Oh my God, now that people think I'm a hater, I just have to be the hater." No, hell no. Like, I love. Haters need love too. I, people think you're the hater though. I don't like, I don't see anything any of that and think like, "Oh my God, she's." I feel like you're just like, you stick up for yourself, right? But it's cuz you get it, you know? Right? Like, that whole [ __ ] side of the internet that's just like, "Oh, it's a woman yelling. She's an evil." You know? And it's like, like the real people, real, yes, SCS and TikTok, they're, they're different planet. Holy [ __ ]. Like, I'll feel, I'll feel like a badass [ __ ]. I'm like, going through my TikTok comments. I'm like, "I served." And then Instagram's like, "You [ __ ] disgusting [ __ ], you piece of [ __ ], you should be in the kitchen making a sandwich." Real humbled this [ __ ] out of us. Like, "Oh my God, the comments on can on Reels, it's so brutal. It's like, these women, we could be saying like, literally the most insightful thing of all time. And the comments will always be like, "Get her off of here. Make podcast equipment more expensive. 6 feet under." I'm like, "I'm reading that. I'm like, noted. Nice. I'm like, double tap that one. That one's good. I'm like, that one made me laugh. That one's a good one."

That is never had this insecurity. I'll change that about myself. Yeah, that's how I found out I had a big forehead. I was like, "Jesus." Oh my God, I didn't even know. I posted a TikTok the other day and the very first comment, I'm talking, this person got there in three seconds to say, "This [ __ ] was what episode of Botched is this?" And I was like, "You know what? Low key, I giggled." That's me. I'm like, "It's me too." Like, I do. I love a funny hate comment. Like a good one where I'm like, "You know what? Touche. Like, I'm going to put that in the bank." Like, "L, I'll pin it." Yeah, like, "That was funny. Pin it." L, I'll pin that one. And I'll give a little haha in the comment, you know? Yeah, like, you know, cuz that's all they want. It's like a hug. You are, you a Nicki fan? Like, that's like my favorite. I'm like, "Are you a Nicki fan?" You love me say that stupid. I'm like, "Of course, I love Nicki Min." Hello. The A, I'm 40. Oh my God, kill myself. I missed it too, right? No, I'm going to watch that back in that just like an old TikTok audio. No, and I'm going of me. I'm going to watch that back in the edit. I'm a millennial. She's a Gen Z. Am I? Yeah, I really am. Millennial. I laughed at the most like Facebook mom meme the other day. I was in tears laughing. And then I just sat silent in the car for 30. I was like, "Oh my God." I tell myself I'm doing it ironically. Like, I'm laughing at them, but I'm laughing with them. No, I was just laugh. It was like me when the flight attendant offers me a snack and like a dolphin. And I was like, "Haha, this is so funny." And I like actually was like, "Oh my God." No, saying because like, I will cry laughing. Like, I'm talking like hyperventilate over like dogs and cats. Yes. Me too. Or animals. Like, why is it doing that? Yes. Or like the one with the microwave trend right now where like they put their dog. I'm crying. Wait, tell the trend. What what happened? The microwave trend where they're like, they put a picture of the dog and AI spins it around. Stop playing with me. Thank you. Thank you. So no, you're lying. I don't know what it is. No, you're lying. Don't do this to me. On. I got microwave dog. We got to look it up. Hold on. Oh, An's got it. I'm screaming. That's so [ __ ] funny. Wait, how do I, how do I do that to MF? You have to do that to Mury. I feel like Mouse is just doing already doing that. Yeah, Mouse is just at home right now doing that. Anyways, no, please stop. Why do I want that of me? Like, I want to be spinning around. Can you do it of me? Like, I'm screaming, crying, showing up. Please just like that. By the way, no h. I'm 95 years old sitting on my couch [ __ ] screaming like, like grabbing my Julia being like, "No, look. No, look. No, look." Like, I'm anyways, no, it's okay. We're, I'm embracing it. Listen, if I laugh at a millennial joke, it is what it is, you know? And that's okay. It's okay. But you were, you were saying you wanted to do something more positive and we got so far off track. Okay, okay. But I love when we ate HD and Kiki too. I just didn't want her to forget. So anyways, I'm trying to be so positive and like, I love giving gifts. Like, I feel like that's one of like my languages. It's like, it's like, "Please open it. Like, I'm so excited." I think it's something with O too cuz it's like, I just robbed this man for this money. So how can I like give back to other people? I'm the same way. You with my parents for them to accept me. Kidding. But I was like, "Okay, I'm going to, I'm going to do a giveaway and I'm going to sell merch." So I'm like, in the works of like, I want to give away a car. I'm have like, I have like two MacBooks, three iPhones. D over great again, right? Great era. Yeah, phenomenal. Like, so great in theory. And now we just need like, a hot woman doing it, you know what I mean? In a bikini or something. Yeah. And with your Mr. Beast ties, you could be the garbage. And that's kind of iconic. Yeah, I see it now. The red bows, you're in a red bikini, right? And I'm like, brand new car. I'm like, "No." And like, we need, we need a woman doing that. So I thought it was me for a second. And then I just, "Oh, she gave me a car." I don't know what I'm talking about. But I, you got a car. I gave her a car. What car? A Bronco. Bright green Bronco. My favorite thing in the world. And she bought Kyla a car and Ashley a car. Three cars. Look, [ __ ] you get a car. You get a car. You. But she's over here like, "Girls need to be giving out cars." And I'm, and I'm, I'm sitting here like, "Yeah." The thing with one of those cars, it ended up like way later in life and like the car, I fully paid it off and like the whole thing. And then she ended up getting hit or like car crash or whatever. And it somehow ended up [ __ ] up my credit while I'm buying a house. It like actually [ __ ] up my mortgage and my [ __ ] and and then I was like, "I'm not the car girl anymore." I was done. But just in time for me to get one. Yeah, you, you are the final car. At least you got. You are the final car. And now, hey, hey, lowkey bought my dad a car. Bought my mom a car. You're already the car girl. Lowkey. My mom. Like, you guys are SL. I just can't get over you walking in here. She says, "I'm going to do a small little giveaway. I'm going to give away a car." I go, "Small little giveaway." I love that. That to you. Like, it's like, she, what I want to do, right? Like, if I'm thinking like three years ahead, like I, if I have like, if you ask like, what's like a vision that you have that keeps you motivated? Right? It would be, I want to do like, like a YouTube video or or somehow integrate someone's personal story that really resonated with and changed their life. Like, I want to buy someone a home and change someone's life. Like, that is what would make me like, that would make so happy. Like a car, yes, I understand that. That that does change someone's life. Like to be able to, you know, like get around and get around and get a job. And I know that that helps a lot. Even if they have nowhere to live, like at least you got, you know, like a car or something. But I think with like, I want to get so personal with it. Like Mr. Beast changes the world in masses, right? Like, no, no one does what he does. You don't see the personal story in between each person. He fixes 100 people. You don't know these people's stories. Like, which is incredible what he does. Like, for me, I want to do like one person and like tell a story. And and you're such an interviewer. You want to know people's stories. I want to know their story, their truth. Like, I want them to feel like, you're about to be Miss Mrs. Beauty and the Beast. Yes. Like, wait, can you write that down? Wait, can I have 10% heart? And I also think truly, like a lot of people do that [ __ ]. Even when I was doing it, like the views are nice, you know? Yours was a little more like, I wanted to do that. But like Kyla's, I was like, "Listen, I'm dope." Break. I was living at his house. Like, I fully. And I think that we haven't had someone doing it who really wants to know the stories yet. And like, I'm also really big in music. Like, I, not in music, like I don't do music, but like, I think music is the one thing that brings people together. And so making people feel an emotion through a video was something that like, is incredible. Like, I want to, you wake up and you know the TikToks where you're like, "Oh my God, not me waking up crying about a TikTok." That made you feel something. That's what I want to do. Like, I want to make someone like watching. Yes, my life. I live it. It's like, yeah, I portray it to be glamorous and I portray this thing. But like, I see the other side of it. Like, I see the people that don't get to live that. I know I'm part of the the 1%, you know what I'm saying? But like, I do think about, I, I am so aware and I do think about the people that I can help. And like, I think that's just a part of like, who I've always been. I've always, which is also a blessing and a curse. Put someone else before me. Yeah. Always. But I love someone else's emotions, someone else's financial problems. Like, I will always take them as my own because I'm like, "I know I always got me." Yes. Forever and always. I always have myself. But like, seeing them thrive. Like, bro, that's the one thing I love about the Bop House. We love watching everyone succeed. And that's hard too. To find other people like that. Like, that's why a lot of those houses fail. Even in situations like that, yeah, it can be easy to get like jealous of other people. Who's doing? Obviously, you put eight girls in a [ __ ] house. There are issues and there are things. But like, at the end of the day, we each have our own individual businesses and we want each of us to thrive. That's the God honest truth. Like, and that's so important. Dude, I'm so excited to like meet everyone. You're going to, I'm telling you, like, you're going to love. I can't wait to see everything. You need to come. I'm not attending. I'm so afraid of Miami. Like, I scared her too. And I told you how bad I was in Miami on the phone a little bit, you know? And I, she saw it. Almost ended our friendship. No. And you can talk [ __ ]. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, it was just like, it was a bad time for everybody. Like, it was, there was a lot of issues. Like, much bigger than us. But go ahead. She was talking about it. She was with her ex at the time. And I, I went with just them two. Okay? So we stayed in a room like the three of us, two beds. Like, I had one bed and they had the other. Horrible. The worst idea I've personally ever had. And just like the worst. Like, now if it was like me and Maka, like we would like put on a wrong. So much fun. Like, and for the first couple days, it was fine. But like, they had the biggest blowout fight I've probably ever. Like, it was giving like my mom and dad. I was so, I couldn't even believe what was happening. And I had a flight the next. It was like a whole thing. And I was screaming at them. They're screaming at each other. Like, we're about to get kicked out of the hotel. I missed my flight. It was a whole thing. I told myself in that moment, I never was going to go back. I think your flight was in like six hours. And she just left to the airport. She like, "I'd rather." What happened? It was like, my flight was at like 7:00 AM. And I was like, "Please let me go to sleep." Like, we've been out for 24 hours straight. Like, I will do anything to just go to sleep. I have a middle seat. The next day. I'm like, and the flight, oh my to LA. Yes. And I'm like, "Please let me go to sleep." And I finally got so angry that I went to the airport, sat there for six hours, and then got on a middle seat all the way home for six hours. I had slept in 24. We would have never again. No. 100%. 100%. I, it's so funny. We don't talk about that like enough. Cuz even just with friends, I see it now. And I'm not placing blame off of me cuz obviously like I did that. But I'm saying like, how hard it is to be friends with someone in a [ __ ] toxic relationship because you just start [ __ ] fighting. So funny. Cuz me and Julia, everyone knows like our friendship is, we're going on like 10 years. Like, that is my soulmate. Like, I stop. I'll cry. But I literally love her so much. And like, we've had, she has the worst taste in men. Love you, girl. But what the [ __ ]? Oh, my sweet Brookie here dealt for so long. I'm talking. Yeah, that's true. I guess we balance each other out with that for a while. And she's hated my exes and things like that. But like, it got to a point where like, there was this one time we were in downtown and like, I knew I, I hated this boyfriend of hers. They would go back. It's the back and forth [ __ ] that you [ __ ] hate. It's that you see her crying, you see how much he's done to her. Next thing you know, she's like, "Oh, wait, but like, I lowkey love him." And you're like, "What the [ __ ]? He's just, he's all the all the way like on the way to the airport with us." All of a sudden, you're like, "Oh, that's crazy. Like, you didn't just say the most lethal, diabolical [ __ ] six hours ago?" And I did that with him for a very, very long time. It got to a point where like, in that moment, we were out or whatever. And I saw him. He said some slick [ __ ] to her. And I just lunged at him. I did. I, I did. I took my heel and I just absolutely lunged at him. And I looked at her and I was like, "I swear to [ __ ], like, I swear to like, I, I can't do this anymore." And it did end our friendship for a year and a half. And that's the thing. We didn't speak for a year. And the only thing that brought me to, cuz I, I had to rekindle it cuz I'm like, the love I have for her is unmatched. When you're in a toxic relationship, like impossible to just not. You walk around with a rain cloud on your head. It's just not you. Like, she wasn't herself. Like, even me, like when I was in a toxic relationship, like she understood. She knew it wasn't me. And it's almost like, as as that friend, you have to sit there and take it and take the emotions and almost hurt with her while she hurts until she's done. Yes, you do. And like, I, I had such a hard time with that cuz I was so like, I wasn't understanding to a lot of my friends in horrible situations like that cuz I had never gone through it myself. Exactly. So once I had a situation like that, I felt so much guilt cuz I was like, "Oh my God, I cannot believe how I handled this with you, baby. Everybody." Cuz it was like, "I should have been there for them." And so now I feel way differently about about it. But when you're in it, you cannot see clearly at all. It's literally like fck and all. And you're heartbroken every other week. Like, I say this, I'm like, those heartbreaks from those toxic relationships, it's like, it's not like, "Oh, you're sad." Like, it, your body has a physical reaction. It's like a drug withdrawal. It's so traumatic. It literally feels like, like, like chest pain, you're dizzy, you can't sleep, you can't eat. Like, your body, it's literally physical. Like, even just what it's got to do to you psychologically to normalize like soing like that all the time. Like, you know what I mean? Like, just just being so hysterical and so. Yeah, no, it's, it's really horrible. But I wouldn't wish it upon my worst. And it's so crazy because it's the same thing like a drug addiction. It's like your friends can try to tell you all they want. But until you decide to get sober, whether it's off this man or it's off this thing, like, you know what I mean? Like, there's nothing you can do. And it's so, and then you just want to go back and shake yourself, you know? And then also, like, that causes trauma between the friendship, obviously. So I'm dealing with that right now with a friend of mine. But not like a best friend, but like a close friend where I'm just like, "I have to let her cook." Yeah, like, and she's going to see that. Where when I see her pursuing someone or like, when she, when I started, you know, dating and things like that, we were kind of just like, you know, it's kind of like we're on the edge of our seat. Like, "Okay, how do we approach this? This man." Like, I bet when you started dating Makoa, correct? I don't want to mispronounce his name. What? Me? You're in love. He seems [ __ ] amazing. He seems like, like you're like the fire and he's the water and it just mellows. That's how it comes across. And I think that people like us, we need that. We need that. We like, we need to be able to go on a [ __ ] rant and he's like, "No, totally get you." And then you, his energy makes you kind of like, be able to rationalize and be logical about it. Which is, I would always date men that was like fire and fire. And it's like, [ __ ] explosion. We were just literally saying that before you got here. But just like, I needed, I always thought I had to have a big, big personality. And I feel like that's not true. I love to have somebody who's just like, "Okay, I'll be like, I hate when you do that." Like, "Yeah, I'm like, what the [ __ ] are you [ __ ] doing?" And they're like, they're like, "No, yeah, totally see why you." And I feel like a dick. [ __ ] my God. The amount of times I've cried because of the things I've done in a sense of like, cuz no one really knows. Like, I'm in a fully like relationship and have been for like two and a half years. This out. I didn't know that. She's a marketing genius. She said, "Not today." Yeah, I, I love him. Like, I'll never deny my boyfriend ever. But, um, it's just not something that I publicize. Just because, good for you. That's my [ __ ] man. What the [ __ ] you got to be looking at my man for the [ __ ]? Anyways, but like, we'll get in arguments and I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, like in his [ __ ] face and he's like, "Yeah, no, like, I, I see. Understand his attitude completely." CH. Like, I'm crying. Not because of what he said, because of, I'm [ __ ] nuts. No, I'm [ __ ] lunatic. I'm such a [ __ ] and I'm sitting in my head. I'm like, I'm like, "He's going to, I don't deserve him. Like, he just going to leave me." I did something in Paris to Makoa like that. I whenever I think about it, even to this day, I want to go back just to jump off the tip of the Eiffel Tower. Like, it's, oh my God, I can't. He's so understanding. He is. And it's so far gone to him. But even if I, like, even when I just think about us in Paris, I'm like, "Oh my God, I actually have to lay on the 405." Like, it's, and it's crazy. Untraining toxic girl, you know? Like, it's, I notice it every day. Even when, cuz we're kind of long distance. So like, when he leaves, I'll notice myself like reverting to those anxious behaviors which lead to me lashing out. And then it's like trying to start an argument. And yeah, 100%. Yes. And then it's like, "Wait, I'm not mad at you. I just miss you." Like, the one thing that changed my like demeanor in the relationship is being embarrassed of my own actions. Yes. Oh my God. And I've never put that into words like that. Being embarrassed of my own actions has changed me as a [ __ ] human being. Like, the way I would speak to people, the way I would, like, I don't know. Like, I'm not a, I'm not self-aware. Like, I [ __ ] know. Like, he has looked at me dead in the face and he'll be like, "Yeah, when you're done yelling, we can have a conversation." He'll just walk away. It's nothing. It's nothing personal. He's like, "So powerful." He's like, "When you're done." Um, he'll said there like, "You're like this. You'll be, I'm screaming at the top of my lungs." And he'll go, "Yeah, no, when when you're done." He's like, "I get it. I understand you're upset. When you're done, we can have a conversation. I'm going to go eat." M. Would that? I'm so, I'm so me. I'd be like, "What do you mean? No, you. No, no." Yeah. And I'll sit there and I'm like, and I'm like twitching and I'm like, "All right." And I, and I'm still, don't get me wrong, I'm pissed off for like five hours after. But I will. And he doesn't treat me differently in those hours. It's not like a, he's going to ignore me. Like, "Hey, do you want food?" Or, "Hey, do you want this? You want." Literally Maka and I'm mad at. What what am I mad at? So then I come around and then I, I come obviously crying and I'm like, "So like, sorry. You still love me or what?" No, I'm like, "Oh, cool. So like, you still, like, do you still want, you still love me, right?" And then for three days, I'll, for three days, it's literally that. No, for sure. It's toxic relationships [ __ ] you up so bad. But it is. I think we talk about this a lot now too. For so long, I was in such denial of the cool down period, right? Even Amari gets on me about this. Like, if Amari and I are fighting, it's like, I want to hash it now. And as I've gotten older, I have realized the cool down period will save your life. I'm so bad at it. Me too. With friends. Me too. I'm just so bad at it. We have different, we have different feelings on that. Like, I think you're like, "Solve it in this moment." That's how I. And I'm having to understand more and more. Yeah, I, I'm not going to lie. I'm still bad at it. Like, Julia, it's this is so crazy cuz this seems like the dynamic of me and Julia. Like, she's very like bubbly and just like a, just she's so cute and she's not confrontational. And she, she's very like calm. She's very calm. And like, you're like me. You're like, "Well, [ __ ] that [ __ ] [ __ ] this [ __ ]." You're misunderstanding the dynamic. Really. We're both. Oh my God. It seems like you're so like relaxed. No, I'm, I'm out. Yeah, no, I'm very reactive. Well, I just get, I'm super hyper emotional and I get very, very like upset over things. Like, probably irrationally. And so, MH. But that is an issue that I have with pretty much everyone. Yeah. But we've worked it out a lot. I think grown a lot in that sense. You're much better at saying things, not saying things you don't mean now. Yeah, I'm way more aware of it now. Like, now I, I know that there's like a bigger, a root, like root of the issue. But hello. Oh my God, the queen. Hi, my queen. Is that I just watched the C of them. It was you right talking about you where you came home with the Birkin? Was this you? No, that was Sophie. Sophie came home. Her Bop House queen. She comes home with a Birkin. And she's showing her. She's going, "What is this? Why would you spend that on?" She's like, "I don't understand why you'd spend 30 grand." No, and it was, it was just the cutest video. Absolutely ever. Oh, I love you. It was the cutest, like sweetest. That video was everything. But yeah, like, if we were to fight, like, it's very like, I'm like, "No, we're solving this now." And she's like, "I just don't get why you're yelling." I'm like, "What do you mean? I just." It's really hard. Like, once I feel a certain way, for me to like, unfeel it. Yeah. It's really hard. And I feel like, I don't know, the very common misconception is that I'm, I'm calm. And yeah, and like, God, I, I hate to even admit that, but it's, it's true. I'm very, I just get so upset. Petty. I'm not, I'm not so much petty as I am just like, I, everything is the sky is falling. And everything is, my emotions are so, so much bigger than they actually are. Always. Like, I, like something so like minuscule can turn into like, like, "I can't believe they would do this to me." Really big, so blowout. Yeah. But it's just the way like, everything is perceived to me. It's like, "Oh my God, like, everyone hates me. The world is against me." I don't know why. And we had to work on that a lot too. Where, you know what I mean? Like, I had to, in those moments, it'd be like, "I love you." You know what I mean? Like, "I, and I know your brain is telling you that I don't." We're just so different in the way that we handle conflict. And that's been like, that has been the conflict. I, oh my God, for just for so long. I'm, let's the [ __ ] hash it out. Like, I'm, let's hash it out. Because I hate that feeling of having to wait to have that conversation. Because for me, the cool down period is like, like, I still feel it. Like, it's like, even if I'm not as active, it's just like, when we start talking about it, I'm going to still want to like blow up. And and I don't know how to articulate it. I mean, obviously, I've gotten better and not, I'm not going to scream. But like, I'm very, I'll say it very passionately. And I think that that can cause people to shut down. I just have to be careful about that. Because if I hash it out in the moment, I'm going to say so many things I don't mean. It's going to be way bigger than it should be because of how emotional I am about about it. So it's like, I need the refractory period just to be, just to like, come to my senses and like, see it for what it was rather than what, what your brain is making it out to be. Yeah. And I even, you taught me so much about cuz I am, give her a second. I am innately very much like, "Let's talk it out right now." Like, I guess when I say the cool down period helped me, that's for me when I'm hot and angry. But even with our relationship, like, we had to learn. I had to really learn like, "No, we're going to revisit this in a day." And we're going to St. Because by then, I will always probably come and be like, "I'm so sorry. I don't. I I said this because I felt this and I was, you know." A lot of people, way out of my mind. A lot of people cannot say no. But I don't always do it. A lot of people can't when they're wrong. So I'm getting better. I really do. Self growth. Yes. It is amazing. Love that. It is. It really is. So cuz I can't wait to go to LIV with you. You should come. Honestly. I would come. Listen, I'm going to be very honest. I have lived in Miami going on three years now. I, I don't go out. I have not been to the beach. I am, I'm telling you. Like, the only reason my ass at LIV is because of Julia's [ __ ] ass and she's like, "No, we need a girls' night. We need a girls' night." Takes me to [ __ ] LIV. I spend 10 grand. So I'm like, "I hate going out. I don't like the culture of going out." Miami is the most expensive. Promoters suck. The Miami is the most expensive. I love the daytime of it all. I love to be on a boat. I love to be at the beach. Now that I'm sober, almost need a Miami tour guide. Me the light, right? Like, I need you to show me the things that Miami that make me slit. Like, yes. Please. I'll keep you on, not off edge. I'll keep you on edge. We're going to move into like, a more wholesome Miami. B. Yeah. And I would love that. I need to rewrite it. Yachts are fun. They're, they're contained. You could get a little [ __ ] up. It's like, you get [ __ ] up. It's like 3:00 PM. You nap until 7:00. That I can. And then you get ready after with like a sun-kissed tan. You go to dinner and you get a little more [ __ ] up at dinner. That's me. I don't do see. Then I'd be doing off the table. It's like the god. That's where we don't align. Yes. And that's good. That's why I'm sober. But then I'm, I'm a ha. So I'll be getting her drunk. Never life have done where any hard drugs? Who hasn't smoked little weed? I'm a paranoid [ __ ] [ __ ]. I cannot smoke for the life of me. But no, listen, I'm an anxious one too. I feel like I'm like, I wish I could be the cool [ __ ] with the blunt with like some long fingernails that looks. But me, no, I think the cops are coming. I think everyone hates me. And I think I'm having a, I'm going under cardiac arrest. And someone need to take me to the hospital immediately. Immediately. I wish I could be the [ __ ] that smokes pot. Sit on the.

couch. Have a glass of wine. I think strains kind of matter too, cuz like, some, because it's like, I don't like the trial and error of it all. It's like, it's like birth control. It's like, you mean three months I have to do it? It's like, I don't want to be high, like a bad high, for long enough to find out what works and what doesn't. Like, I'd rather just not. Yeah, I just don't. I'll get a little w-girl wasted here and there. Yep. But anyone in my life will tell you, I just don't drink. Like, and that's great. And I, I don't know if it's because I'm like, honestly, I genuinely think it's because I'm like, I could be spending my time doing something productive, and that's just took me way too long to realize that's just me. Like, why the [ __ ] would I go out with people who, one, half the time the people that we go like, like the random girls you meet when you're out don't give a [ __ ] about you. Like, they don't actually benefit you in any type of way when I could just go home, like, pop my puss and make some money. Like, you get what I'm saying? Like, why wouldn't I just do that?

Yes, ma'am. I think it took me so long to realize that, like, the going out scene is just so regressive. And the promoters, it can't be fun. Every once in a while, there's a reason to celebrate, why not, right? But I feel like there's a way to do it. I just feel like it's Groundhog's Day. Like, literally every single night the exact same thing happens, and the same people are there, and you're like, "Oh my God." And you're not going to find love, and you're not going to make a best friend. You're not going to— You hear that, Julia? You're not going to find love. Thank you. And but it's so hard because I was Julia for so— She's like, "No, but I need to go to Sway and find this man." I'm like, "You're not finding your husband at S-Go & Noble." Yeah. No, but I was put a [ __ ] tight skirt on, go to an accounting firm and say you need some [ __ ]. Drop a pencil, drop a— over, show your thong, and you'll [ __ ] find a hot man. Like, do something different. Like, show up at the Ritz-Carlton, have a [ __ ] drink, and hike up your skirt a little and [ __ ] talk to a rich man. Like, who just said that? Like, go where the rich men hang out. Mhm. And look lost. Like, that's what you do. Mhm. Way. I, it is. It's no, but it's so wild cuz I truly, I was so damn convinced that I was going to find my husband in that club. Babe, you're going to find a 40-year-old man with a erectile dysfunction and a problem, and arguably he likes minors, with a wife in the club. Yeah. And, and yeah. And it's just, oh my God, it's so wild. And it's so easy too. I think you like being a party girl, you know what I mean? Like, at first, it's so fun. Like, we know that. And so many people just get addicted to that thing. Like, I was so addicted to the scene. And the thing is though, like, growing up in North Carolina, I genuinely believed has saved me from a lot of [ __ ] because I, okay, I also worked at a bar the second I was able to, right? So I've seen that. I've been able to party and make money at the same time. So I'm like, "Oh, this is great." And like, saw the regular alcoholics too. And like, y'all, you specifically were in a position, you were young, making money and going out. Like, and from Vegas, bro, doomed from the jump, bro. How do you not? Yeah. Yeah. I think my car for me, it was easy not to cuz it's North Carolina. There's no, there's like bars and it's fun and it's like, kick. It's more like classy. There's no like clubs there. I, the first time I've ever heard the genre of EDM was in Florida. Never in my life have I ever heard of John Summit or any of these people until I got to a big city. And I'm like, "This [ __ ] will [ __ ] you up if you start at the age of 15, 16 with a fake ID." How do you not, like, genuinely, like, how do you not get addicted to? How do you not start drugs? How do you not get with people who are trying to pimp you out? How do you not? 100%. Oh, and I did. I saw a photo of my fake ID the other day. I was going through my camera roll, and it was just, I had red fishnets on, and there was a photo of my fake ID, and it was just so brutal. I was like, "Oh my God." But it was a powerful time, you know? It all had to happen for me to learn. But I always just want to, I want to tell the girlies out there, you know, that just like, if you're lost in that club party scene, get out, man. Yeah. And if you haven't gotten there yet, skip it. Don't do it. It's so easy not to do it. It's just, you just not. And even just like the way, like you saying that you've never done C in a room full of people in LA. There, I, I can almost, I would bet my foot that you could go in a lot of rooms in LA and say that, and everyone's like, "Oh my God, what? Like, that's so lame. Like, just try it." And it's like, "Why wait?" So like, "Why try it?" No, but I'm the [ __ ] to say so. Why? That's what I'm saying. Like, and it's, you're eating with that. And I wish someone had told me that. Like, it's cool not to do drugs. You're like, "If you get out of it, you're going to look back and be like, 'D.'" And honestly, this all boils down to not knowing you. Because it's like, I don't want to be the odd one out. I don't want to be the one not off. That scares me. Like, you know what I mean? Like, like I want to be a part of it. I don't want to feel left out. And that's why I think a lot of people do it. And then it's like, "I want to be numb." And then it's like, "I, you know what I mean?" And then it's like, "You like it." The problem. The problem. That's what I don't understand about, like, "Just try it." It's like, "For what?" For me to find out I love it and now I'm doing heroin? Me? Like, not the heroin. Especially if you like, especially if you know, like, person by person, like, if you have family members who are, if you have personality, like, I mean, like, bro, I vaped forever. Did you quit? I did. How? You quit? I just, I just stopped. Quit. See a sign. See. I literally don't know how. I just stopped. The spirit said I— Oh my. The ghost. Wait, honestly, they might be my favor. Yeah. Like, hello. I just, I don't know how. Like, for me, it was not. Yes, it was difficult. When is it the most difficult? When you had a couple drinks and you're like, "I want to [ __ ] rip a goddamn vape right now." Like, that's like everything I would ever want in that moment. But like, on the day-to-day, like, you just stop buying it. I've been able to stop most things. I don't know what it is. It's crazy. Like, benzo and alcohol are arguably harder. Like, whatever. You know, I, I genuinely think it's the hand, the oral fixation. It's this, it's this movement. I don't think you. And the smoke shop, like, the accessibility, the legality, the, you know, like, I can just walk in there and L. Even drive. Like, how accessible is it to you? You're so right. You can't drive at all. Like, you're just a bad driver. No, I do not know how. And I do. Wait, what do you mean? Wait. Y-what? Hold on, hold on. Raised by. Have a driver's license? What? F-do you bought three cars, zero license? Wait, can you— Wait, wait. How old are you? Let me give you the smack pack. Okay, raised by monkeys, drop out, move out LA by like 16. One of my very first sponsorships was Uber. I actually don't talk about this a lot, but back in the day, Uber used to just give me free rides to talk about them, which is wild. They would literally never know anything. They would never know ever. But they were a startup, and I was, I was a driver's licenseless [ __ ]. And then substance abuse. So then it was like, I could never be behind the wheel. And then it just like, I just kept getting older, and it still scares me personally with my ADHD and the way I've been a passenger princess for so long, that I'm like, "Okay, I don't want to be a danger to anyone in my car and outside of my car." You'll be good. It's like, it's once you know how. It's like, I will say though, probably learning to drive in LA is the worst thing you could do. But what do you ever plan to have kids? What about soccer practice? I don't know. I'm just thinking in the future, like, "What about like, Mom, can you take me to my friend's house?" "Daddy's going to take you." Or nanny, maybe. I don't know. Maybe that's crazy. No, that's 2025 for sure. I like, should. But I've also tried a lot, and it's one of those things where it's like, it's like learning chess, you know, to me because I never. Wait, that's such a good. It's hard for everybody. I did a whole moment. I did. I did that whole series. Obviously, David Dobrik and Jake Paul weren't going to teach you how to drive, Tana. But you should learn in Vegas or Arizona, somewhere there's where there's a grid system because it's like, that's just the easiest way to learn. And like, yeah, learning here is. That's the other thing. In the beginning, all it's like, anything, there's so many things to think about. So it is like anxious and overwhelming. But like, once you know, you're not, you're not thinking about driving when you're driving. Why did I not know you didn't have a driver's license? Yeah, it's crazy. Good [ __ ] though. No, I'm just kidding. I'm that's all that really matters. Kidding. You can ride. But like, yeah, no, but yeah, that's the thing. I can't drive, but I can ride. Exactly. No, but um, I would. But then I also, you know how I hate authority. I would be like, "But I can text and drive." I mean, people live in New York and never drive a car in their lives. But like, we don't live in New York. I will. I'll da. The necessity to drive isn't that big here, especially with. I'm like, "Weo exists now." What's going to exist when you have kids? That's true. You're going to have a self-driving car. They're going to be droning them to school. Wait, could you have your own self-driving car? Like, if Waymo can do it? Like, oh, but you mean like, really self-driving? Like, really? Like, like, that's definitely the future, though. Wait, can I just buy a Whim-o? Yeah, that's what I'm asking. I guess just sit in it, please. Or like, have it parked in your garage and you're like, "Oh, I my kid needs to go to soccer practice." Like, this car is going to take him. I, I'd be scared. I'd rather. I'd be scared. And all the Waymo malfunctions, like, leg. Oh, yeah, you remember. Yeah. Like, it was during the LA fires. One of our friends. Could you, like, I'm imagining this. Like, I'd be [ __ ] pissed if my life was taken away through a [ __ ] self-driving car. Wasn't even in my goddamn control. And I lost. Final Destination. Be pissed. I'd be pissed. What a, what a lame way to go out. That's so. What happened to me? Could you imagine? Like, like WL News just covers, like, "Oh, we have here on the scene, Camila dead by Waymo." Like, I would delete it. Feel on scooter. That's how I feel about it. I'm like, "All my friends would have to lie." I'm like, "So afraid of dying in an embarrassing way." You are afraid of dying in an embarrassing. Because it's like, like, it can't be that. Like, say anything but that. Like, she got hit on a lime. Put your will. Call your attorney. Put it in your will. I'm going to. Well, I'm on record right now. You will not know if I die from of mysterious causes. Turn the other cheek. Yep. Yep. It was a lime scooter. But anything. Yeah. Wow. Okay. So do you have a list of questions? I don't want you to feel like you don't know something. You know what it is is I had this whole list of like interview questions for you, and then you sat down, you started talking, and it's like, I don't know. At least I hate this. I'm sure you do too. Like, when you go on a [ __ ] podcast and then it's like, I sit down and they're like, "So, what was it like being with Jake Paul? Tell us about TanaCon. Do this. Do." And they just hit the like, the mainstream [ __ ], the bullet points of the mainstream [ __ ]. And it's like, you're, you're like exposed. Like, what did they just do to me? Or just the repetitive same [ __ ]. Like, if she were to go on any podcast right now, they're going to ask her to hit those notes of Alabama and this and that. And then I was like, "Wait, this girl is more than that." Like, I just want to kiki and right. And I think, I mean, it's important to hit those things too. So I can tell. I feel like when I'm interviewing, I don't say much about me. I let that person tell their story. It's almost like their moment. I'm just the one asking the questions. I think for me, the hardest thing about doing these interview podcasts and things like that is when that person doesn't feed off of my energy and when they can't make a conversation flow. It really puts me in a weird position. Like, if anybody watched the Santos podcast, I feel like I was digging, man. Like, I sat there for a [ __ ] hour, like, just needing more. Like, I'm like, "I'm like, come on." I haven't seen that yet. Way. No, I start just making things up. I have. I struggle with that so much. I just did like a club appearance situation in Chicago, and the promoter, like, I mean, his whole job is to like, you know, take you out, like make you have fun and stuff. And like, we, I had to go to the club. I hate going to the club. So I was like, "Whatever." And I was really like, I was like going to do it. I was so excited. I was like, "I'm going to do dinner and everything like old times." He picked up me and BB. BB is my best friend. Silent. Literally, we had to sit at dinner for with him like for like 3 hours, I want to say, and he did not say a word the entire time. So me and BB were just making things up, like, like trying so hard to get [ __ ] ass. Yeah, it was impossible. We ended up grabbing two girls in the bathroom and saying, like, "Can you please pretend that we like went to college together and come sit down with us?" And, and we did. Oh, see, that's iconic. We did. Like, it was so funny. We got to the table, I'm like, "She was in my sorority." He's like, "What sorority?" She's like, "Cap Del." He wouldn't have [ __ ] known. He could have made a [ __ ] word, right? But like, it was impossible. No. And with interviewing, that is just like, or when you think it's going to go one way, so hard, and then it goes, it doesn't. And it didn't. M. Like, I wanted to, like, first of all, what are your M questions? I don't know enough. I asked him about the Astrain stuff. And um, cuz that, it, it was a segue, right? Like, I did Astrain, it did well. I asked very direct questions, and Ash just [ __ ] talks, which is great for her. Me just, just the entertainment. No, keep going. With Santos, he showed up. Okay, this is like BTS. I haven't actually talked about this just because I didn't want to give, I didn't want to post another video about him because in my mind, I'm like, "Bro, [ __ ], it, it doesn't, it didn't [ __ ] matter. Whatever. He shows up right, fried." I mean, absolutely out of his [ __ ] mind. Couldn't for mumbling. Fried weed, you think? Or you think like, further weed? But here's the tea. I love this. He's, he's like, he comes in, he's like, "Yo, I'm sorry. Like, I'm just so [ __ ] fried." Like, and I'm looking at him like, "Okay, here's the difference. If you smoke every day, you know how to act. It's not an occasion for you." Like, and also, I flew you out. I put you in a hotel. And for you to show up [ __ ], that pissed me off. I'm not going to make it a big deal because I have something to [ __ ] do, right? Whatever. He's fried. I'm like, "Okay, hopefully this is like, an everyday thing for him, and we can get something done. I can get the things I want answered, and we can move on. Call it a [ __ ] day." He sits down. He's the whole time. I'm trying to get. Remember the TikTok I did with him? The whatever. Uh, he's the entire time being like, "I have cotton mouth. I'm so fried." And I could tell. It was like, like clicked in my head. I'm like, "That's how I act when I've ever smoked. Therefore, I know he's not a smoker. He's tweaking, and he's something's up." So I, when you're so high, you just have to keep saying, "I'm so high." Happens the best 90 times. Can I have water? Can I have this? Can I have this? Can I have this? And he's like, he ordered food there. He brought this guy, right? I'm probably so nervous too. And like, as a guy, men are never going to say, "Hey, I'm so nervous." No, he was for. He's sweating bullets, bro. You could see the [ __ ] sweat on it. Like, I could just tell. I'm already a little angry. I'm like, "You showed up fried." Whatever. He orders Uber Eats. Sits down in the middle of the [ __ ] thing. He's like, "Yo, uh, can you let my boy up?" I'm like, "What?" And I don't mind you bringing anyone. That's not, that's not my issue. It's like, yeah, I want you to feel comfortable enough to be able to speak. And thing after thing, like, we've had that, you know, where you have someone on and it's like, "Okay, I've gotten you the drink. You've gotten up to pee three times. You've gotten distracted off camera. You've taken the phone call." And it's like, "Hello? That's completely disrespectful in my opinion." I'm so sorry. Like, I would, I would actually say something. But like, podcast etiquette isn't spoken about enough. Not that I'm putting the C down. Okay. Feed out. Always. Let me stop. Actually, I retract that. And I'm couch. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Me, me being like, [ __ ] out the whole [ __ ] time. No, no. You have. You have. He sits down. He's, he's like, you know, my, "Can I have my boy up here?" I'm like, "I'm like, who is he?" Cuz I need to know for my own safety. Like, who the [ __ ] are you bringing in here? Like, you know, I feel like we should talk about this before. And you don't know what the trinos do. It's his boy that gave him the weed. And it's just like, his. He said it was for security purposes. He invited the plug. Yes. I, he invited the plug. I don't know if he's armed. I don't know nothing. And so what does he need security for? The, yeah, who the [ __ ] is. Stop. So [ __ ] real security being like, "The new thing is." I think that's just what he said because he's so fried out of his mind. Soci security. Like, he needed to make something up for me to not question him. So I'm like, "Whatever. I'm not even going to. I'm not even going to press you on this matter right now because you're so [ __ ] out of your mind." So he's just, you know, you know, just being a, just being weird. This boy comes in. He's very nice. I will say nothing wrong. He's very kind. He sat there the whole time. Actually said nothing. I tried, you know, I try to talk to the people that come in the room because I don't want you to feel like I'm not addressing you. Like, I will always address the person that comes. I'm like, "Hi, how are you?" Nice to you, you know, whatever. He SM like straight weed. You know, I don't know if he's armed. That's the whole thing. So anyways, we'll take security precautions next time. Yeah. Anyway, we're sitting in this podcast. I don't know if we left it in or not. He got up to pee like five times. Okay. Like, he's the beginning of the Astrain lure, right? So she talked about him on my last podcast. So my natural reaction was, I'm going to put him on there and have him kind of segue the story. I have someone that writes flashcards for me, and I will go back and forth on, you know, questions and things like that. So I have like a deck of flashcards, and I'm like, "All right, question after question after question." Cuz I'm being very direct. Like, "What were you like trying to get out of him?" Like, "What was, what was like, what would the dream have been?" The dream would have been, you need to tell me the exact story of how you somehow ended up getting Astrain. Where the hell did she come from? Yeah. How they meet? Exactly. We don't know. His live or something? He just went live with people and said that that's how they met. Like, it was very one-worded responses. It didn't flow. It was very like, and I feel like I have direct questions, but I, and this is something that I harp on, I will never sit there and attack you. Like, even with Astrain, yeah, I could have sat there and be like, "You [ __ ] crazy ass [ __ ]." Like, get you, get nothing out of the person. If you sit there and attack them, so you have to almost be light and like address very specifically. You have to address it very specifically and make that person feel comfortable enough to tell their story, right? Cuz that's the end of the, that's the end goal, right? Is to that person to be able to tell their side of the story. What was his goal even of being like, clout, right? Brooke, like, what do you think? Like, he just wanted her for clout? I don't. I have no me or like, why he, human, why he ever got involved with her. I think it was they kind of mutually benefited each other, right? Like, they came out with this song, they started doing live, they, she, he, he kind of exploited the fact that she was, there's a mus, in my opinion, yeah. Like, they made a song together. You want to know how smell? As Santos, you know it smells? Well, they made a song together, went [ __ ] crazy. Like, there's lure behind this Astrain thing with Santos, and that was my. Well, D, you had to. It was the sequel, right? So when he's sitting there, he gets up in the middle of the segment, and he's like, "I'm going to go to the bathroom." I'm like, "All right, you've got up like five times." What am I going to say? No, right? So he goes, he comes back, and like, things get weirder. Like, he, he seems more like neurotic. Like, he's like, he's like, "Can I get water?" And like, he's like, "Can I get water?" You think it's, you think it's the plug, and it's all so not. You have, like, that's so insane. Like, he's just being more like, "I need, I need water. I need, I need this." Like, like, "Can we," he asked me in the middle of pockets, "Can we redo this tomorrow? Like, can we do it again?" I'm like, "No, like, this is my time. You just trying to get the Astrain sequel?" And then this man, like, flying him out, and he's just showing up on. I was so disappointed. I don't think that's ever even happened to us. Like, us having someone out on the pod. I don't think so. So this is why I didn't say anything because this is all alleged. You can, I cannot prove that he did. No, this is just your experience. Yeah. But at the end, when he left, it was really awkward. He ended up leaving. He was fine. And he texted me. He was like, "I'm sorry, I have the text message. He was like, "I'm sorry I was fried." Right? Like, it's fine. You did fine. Fried is one thing, but like, [ __ ] Wolf of Wall Street is another. I'm like, talking to my team and my, like, cuz they were there. They go in the bathroom, and they're like, "Look, I took this video as evidence just in case he ever tried to, you know, pin anything against you." But there's like, these little tissues with like blood in the. Oh, yep. Enough said. In the trash can. We don't. I have no. I have no ground to stand on to say he was doing. But what, what can I assume? Yeah. Podcasting also sounds like the biggest nightmare. Imagine watching back the next day. I would be like, sitting. I love right. I like that Thanksgiving. So wow. Give thanks. So he went on live the next day and said, "You know, Camila, I feel like she was asking me such direct questions and like with her big blue eyes." And she goes, "Man, I just wish." Verbatim. I have the clip saved. He goes, "I just wish someone would have let me do it sober." Would have let you? Nobody. You should have let you do it sober. The way I wish I could move my eyebrow right now. Yeah. To be like the [ __ ]. Like this. Wish someone let me. We, we should have a little remote where sometimes we could just literally just like, huh? Yeah. I, yeah, yeah. I. What? That's brutal. Well, at least this is the closing of that for you. Like, it's not like now you have to go interview or [ __ ] third cousin. I'm so done. Like, I'm like, "You're done that [ __ ]. Whatever you did, what you needed to do." And now I think all it is really is just that she should go to jail. And then it's like, "Did you see the new advancement? What with you? You know what I'm talking about with like Muhammad?" Her talking about Muhammad Ali. No, it's like, I guess the guy that she is dating in prison killed a man. Okay? And it was somebody's father. And the daughter of that person, if I'm not mistaken, this is what I have gathered from clips, comes onto her live, and she goes, "Like, he deserved it. He deserved what happened to him." Like, and yeah, she did say that. Yeah. She's like, "He deserved it. He deserved what happened to him." And then she goes on to say, like, "His name is Muhammad. How do you know he's not the Muhammad that did 9/11?" Yep. Verbatim. And laughs about it. I'm so tired. Like, I'm like, "Let me sleep tired." Like, I am so tired. So crazy. In her just saying like, "He deserved to die. He deserved to die. You don't respect me. He deserved to die." She's, it's so insane. She's disgusting. Like, really disgusting. No. And I, and I genuinely, like, I have said this, like, there's no, I, I don't believe in a world where she's not, she does not have a mental illness. No, of course. There has to be a diagnosis for someone like that. There's narcissistic personality disorder, arrested development, maybe like a bipolar mania situ. I think manic. I think she's manic. Like, I'm being for real. I don't know if you noticed. Did the podcast with her, Love the Bop House? They're great. Podcast didn't go the way she think it, she thought it was going to go. Boom. Textbook narcissist, too. And it's just like, at least you're done. Like, it's, I think you showed the people what you're [ __ ] made of with that. And now, thank God, it's over. Beat it. Intoo much. Like, it's like, "Okay, we get it. She sucks. She's going to continue to suck. She'll forever suck." Next. Continuing to suck and forever sucking. I didn't even ask this once, and I just want to know, what is your take right now, on today's date, of the whole Bad Baby Alabama situation? Where do you stand with all of it? I'm going to be very honest. Like, I think I'm, I, I, I admire Danielle, or Bad Baby, a lot for being, she's so who she is. And I think that, you know, she stood on that. And I think Alabama is young. I think she has a lot of growing to do, like naturally, right? Like, I feel like to be very honest, I feel like heard the same story about her a hundred times. And I don't think that that's like, you, we shouldn't stamp her and be like, "She's going to be [ __ ] terrible forever." Because we all [ __ ] have sucked at one point. We've all made dumbass decisions. And I feel like right now is just, I think honestly, she kind of just needs this moment. Like, that's just my genuine opinion. Like, I have no hate for her at all. None. I have no hate for her at all. I think that there's a lot of learning to do. And no one's going to grow if they continue to keep beating each other in the [ __ ] ground. Granted, Bad Baby's about her [ __ ] [ __ ]. Okay? Like, you want to say in your diss track, you want to catch her out the [ __ ] side. I would be so inside if I were Alabama. Wait, like, please, please catch each other outside then. Like, she called you out. You called her out on a [ __ ]. That to me, though, like, like, you fight. Yeah, you fight. For sure. Like, even if, if Alabama really wants to say she's about her [ __ ] at this point, let's get the Calabasas comment. You know, let's shut the air down and let's hold the fight there. You know, honestly, like, if y'all trying to, if you're trying to make a bag, like, host a fight. Oh my God. Imagine they like boxed each other. Yeah. Like, host a fight. And it's so funny because for some reason, I just feel like Alabama would think she's above that. And if anything, it's like, "Well, she always says, 'I'm Chris would never let that happen.'" I think a quote directly from Alabama was, "I'm too, like, I'm too above that. Like, I don't fight." And then I think she was in the studio and she was like, "What?" She said, "She was like, 'I'mma call you [ __ ] Lucy Liu or something." Like, like she's. I don't understand what direction she's trying to go in. I, I, she, I think she might be using this to like, boost the music, like her music career. Yeah. But if you can't stand on business, you can't work in that career. And going up against Bad Baby, God, I do. I wish I could possess that confidence. But it's like, just where do you get off? Like, I, I don't. Very honest. I don't know where this ends. I, I, I don't know. Like, in my mind, I'm like, "Okay, this is great, right? Like, this is like fun, like, like, like watching from the sidelines." Like, I kind of obviously like backed out of it because I think honestly, like, this isn't a, like, I just interpret myself for shits and giggles saying I'm like, "I really, I think you guys should duke this out and just call it a [ __ ] day." Like, me on when Bad Baby went and fought Malo, like, or she went and fought Vicky, like, they fight. It's done. Yeah. Whoever wins wins. Whoever lose, whatever. Take to the chest and [ __ ] move on. But I think that like, like you said, like, I think Alabama's just too little. She's above that. She, she believes she's above that. So I really, like, honestly, it's like, I, I hope because I, I see her now and again, she'll post a sad post or something, or obviously talk about all of her hate and stuff. And it's like, "You did lose, right?" And like, "Yes, you could keep fighting it." But I think if anything, the most admirable thing in the world would be just to come online and issue your apologies and like, show growth in that sense. Like, "You're right. You got me." Yeah. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Song kind of. If she came out and said, "That song kind of." Cuz when she, she wrote that first song. First of all, like, well, when someone else wrote that first song. Sure. Yeah. Whatever. It was a good song. Great song. It's, it's catchy. Both of the songs are catchy. Obviously, Bad Baby is Bad Baby, right? Like, she'll always be. I'm so sorry. She'll always be on top. Like, and that's that. But like, bro, her dissing me at the end being like, "And Camila [ __ ] shut the [ __ ] up." Bad Alabama said this. Oh, don't play. And it's always the [ __ ] with a hot pink octo-buddy. You don't want to [ __ ] her. And that's, and that's. Hold on. What do you mean? And she pulled it up so fast. I'm in love with you guys. Stop everything you're doing and take a listen right now. [Music] Ready? This is Alabama. Yeah, I made it. In her song saying, "You've been a fan is crazy." To of what the wig lay? No, she's saying to me, "Camila, [ __ ], shut the [ __ ] up." And I'm going to be very honest, what an honor. And and I'm honestly, I feel like this is a "Mama, I made it" moment because it's like, "Thank you for playing in Kris Jenner's room right now." That's exactly what the [ __ ] I said. I said, "Now it's confirmed that the like, the Kardashians have at least they will hear my name and they will wonder who the hell the [ __ ] that is." Cuz I am not in Kris Jenner's world. I am not in Kylie Jenner's. And so it's like, [ __ ] yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, this is great. That was a great banger for me to exit. And no, yes, [ __ ]. So that's really my opinion on it. Like, I really did it. I made it. I, I, like, you get me? Like, snaps for me because respectfully, this all worked out in my favor. 100% agree. I think it's the perfect time to exit. I do hope. I really hope that they both figured out as far as like, what they want to figure out. Yes. Don't necessarily know where she's taking this direction. It's so funny. Bad Baby said, "You can't outo or Alabama." Why am I confusing them? Sorry. It's so funny. She was right. Except the doer is Bad Baby. Exactly. And like, I think Bad Baby, at, I hope this ends up being a sick ass growing moment for Alabama, and she uses all of this fame to then become something that feels authentic. 100%. And I'm going to be very honest. I think that with the tools she has, and I've said this off camera, like, with the tools she has and the people around her, she could be something so incredible. Couldn't she? She could. Infuriating. Yeah. I agree. I, I agree. She has the tools to be something incredible. I mean, just absolutely building generational wealth for herself. And I think it'll hit her like it hits everyone, you know, when you release something, you're like, "Oh, [ __ ], like, why did I do that?" Like, it'll hit her at some point. And I think it'll be such a, honestly, beautiful story in the end. I agree. And I think Bad Baby is also going to flourish and just continue to prevail. [ __ ] prevail. 100% because it's authentic. It's all authentic. And I'm loving Bad Baby's like, Mom era. Like, it is everything I've ever could have wanted. Like, she, the way she like talks about her daughter and like the love that she has, like, just watching, you know, that girl that sat on Dr. Phil and was like, "Catch me outside," be a mom to a daughter. And just like, I'm sure she's so passionate. Like, yes, we see, we see the crazy Bad Baby with the fire under her ass. But also, like, we've also seen Danielle Bregoli deal with a lot with her mother not being the best. And I'm sure she's got a fire under her ass to be different than that. And that's sick. And has the money. She really is. And, and we probably, just like with how much she wasn't accepted in so many ways, will probably be the most accepting mother ever. Which is, that's how it goes. 100%. I think she, she'll thrive. She will thrive in in being a mom and, and like raising a teenager and raising, you know, like, like a mini her, uh, you know, and she'll be able to do undo all the wrongs that she felt she's been wronged, you know what I'm saying? And that's like, all you can ever ask for in those situations. We talk about that all the time. But it's like, the biggest goal. And I just can't. It's so great that you have all of these like amazing mature takes. How old are you? 22. No way. Oh my God. I do anything to be this put together. And just, I don't even think I'm. I, I think it's just like, for me, I've always been such a logical thinker. Like, I, I'm very. I think yes, I'm emotional. Yes, I, I act impulsively. But like, I will always result back to the logical underlying of everything. You know what it is too? You know who you are. Yeah. And I know what I would want. Was Alabama in this situation? I, I, she's human. And I think, yeah, I could sit here and be like, "Man, [ __ ] that [ __ ]. What the [ __ ]? Like, this, that, and the third." As I did at 22. What the hell does that do for her? And do I, if I sit back, if I went home tonight after coming on here and absolutely ripping her to shreds, ripping anybody to shreds, and knowing that if she saw it, she would, she has emotions, she feels things, regardless of how she wants to act online, like she feels real, raw emotions. And to know that she would feel worse than what she's already feeling, it's like, "Why? Why would I contribute to that?" I hope the people who see the videos of you popping off also see this. Because it's like, you are the definition of like, [ __ ] with me, I'll [ __ ] with you back. But also, I'll never start it. I'll finish it. It's so ever. I'll never, I'll never, ever start. I'll never pick a fight with you. Yeah. Ever. Until you pick one with me first. Yes. And then good for you for showing a lot of the young girls who follow you that standing up for yourself isn't. But I'll never, ever feel okay, like genuinely knowing that I've hurt someone to a point of like deep sadness and something that they'll never forget because I've been that [ __ ]. I was that [ __ ] in high school that just said the craziest [ __ ] to get under someone's skin, knowing damn well if I, that was said to me, I would have gone off the rails. And I think that especially when you're online, and we're all so clinically ungodly online, it's like, I'm just, I'm spreading that thought to millions of people that's also going to side with me just because I have that opinion. And that's not fair to her. And it's not fair to anyone in in a situation. Even if, right, I was genuinely done dirty, I would say it. I would say my piece. I'd have a logical explanation as to why I feel the way that I do. But I would never go on anything and like rip them to shreds because they're not, they're not here to, they're not here to talk [ __ ] back to me. Granted, if I'm like, going at it with someone and you're like, "Yo, let's have you and the girl on there." She's there to defend herself. I think it's cheesy, corny, and lame as [ __ ] for someone to go online and absolutely trash a person when that person can't respond. That's not fair. You're not good for. You'll talk all that behind a camera, but you won't say it to their face. And yeah, Alabama doesn't know that. I truly don't have deep hatred for her. Really. How would. Now the place to say it. And good for you, dude. At 22, it took me so much [ __ ] longer to realize all of that. Like, I think you're just very like ahead of what 22 should look like in your position. And it's really great. A lot of [ __ ] to get here. A lot of [ __ ] [ __ ] to be able to think this way. And it's, and I still fail. And I still [ __ ] up. And I still say [ __ ] I don't mean. You know what I mean? Self-awareness. I'm, I'm so proud of you. I don't know. Like, you know, it's just like, it's, I don't, I don't know you well yet. But like, it's, I just, I am. And I pride myself on being like, well-spoken. You are. Like, I, I, I really, if I ever, like, yeah, I'll go and talk [ __ ] on TikTok. But like, if it came down to it, like, I can have the, the long-form combo. I really can. I really can. I can say it well. And I can say it in a manner where it can genuinely probably get through to someone. And even good for you for having that confidence, right? Because it's like, so many girls would struggle with even just feeling confident enough to say, "I'm well-spoken." But that's back. Timothy Chalamet in his speech. Yes. Really? Did you see him acknowledging that you, like, you don't always have to be so humble? Yeah, we were talking about how it's become a trend to be like, humble, and you can't admit that you're smart, and you can't admit that you're talented and stuff because it looks like, you know, cocky and braggy. And like, but people, people like, we've gotten away from it a little bit. And then Timothy Chalamet just did his acceptance speech, and he's like, "Yeah, I've been trying to be great, and like, I want to be great. Like, I am great." Yes. And it's so cool to [ __ ]. It's not lame to give someone their flowers when they, and give yourself flowers, you know? 100%. I think it's a good, beautiful thing. I haven't asked you about the Bop House at all. What do you know? It's a great place. Okay. I want to, I want to ask the corny, like, "What would Logan Paul do?" question. Okay, how much [ __ ] money are you guys making? And give me a PR answer. You don't have to actually, like, just, I want to hear more about person. I can speak for me. Well, Sophie, I think is at 3, 4 mil a month, uh, that she's doing really, really well for me. I'm currently, like, right now, in this, like, currently 1.5 a month. Um, you're Julia. Do you mind? Do you mind if I say yours? I don't even know how much. I mean, don't. Yes, you just clear it or not. I won't if you don't. I want to know. I, Julia is on the brink of like, 800, 7, 800. Oh my God. Yeah. No, we're. I'm sick to my stomach. Yeah. And I'm so proud of you. Thanks. And it's so insane. I need that. It's so insane. It's, it's just so cool. I just love to see women win in any way. And it feels like the girls are [ __ ] killing it. Yes. Like, the Bop House is also. I want to address this. Like, the Bop. I think a lot of people, they'll go online and they'll be like, "The Bop House is a [ __ ] horrible place. They, they're all like, do you know what, what's behind the Bop House? It's all these dirty men that are wanting to see them naked." Like, no. Can I just say, I wish I really wish it was these dirty. Like, I, I really wish it was these men that were watching this because then I would, it would convert way better.

But I, to my surprise, it's all like we're not making overly sexual content on TikTok. Yeah, like it's just, that's just not what's happening. So, yeah, you're all like showing your personalities. You're showing that women are multifaceted, right? I think these girls are obsessed with like, it's almost looks like a big girl sleepover, and we're, you know, we're not over-sexualizing ourselves on, grant, Instagram.

Please pop my [ __ ] every day. But on TikTok, it's very, we have over like 70% of our viewers are women, and I think because it's so interesting to them, right? And I think people are associating like, that's not what we meant for it to be, but we are. I'm eternally grateful. Like, my girls, I love them. I love my girls. Like they are, and that's scenario, the most loyal kind. Like, I love my fans, like to my core. Like, I will literally say, I cried about it when TikTok, I'll say it with pride, babe. I cried about it when TikTok got banned. Was on Instagram, balling my eyes out. You're like, back to the men, I'm scared. Like, take me out of here. Like, I was so used to the like, I would do things on purpose to get rage bait because I knew it would get men to engage, and I'm totally cool with that. And I'll go back to that. Could give two [ __ ]. But now you get to Kiki with the girls. Girl is a new level of like, oh my [ __ ]. I never had a sister. Like, this is incredible. Yeah.

So I want to preface that the, it's the gires in there. Like, I get why people are upset by it. You have the dream sets, you're making the money off the men. But then you're having fun with the girls. Like, cuz I feel when girls, when it is just all men, that's all your content, those girls are masterminds, you know? But they probably wish there were some more girls in there to like, you know, get them and see them. And I think I just, I love where the concept of the Bop House is going. Me too. I, I love that we each individually make our own money. And at the end of the day, we are our own CEOs, and we are, we, we have a brain to make our own decisions. And there's no one there saying we can't. Granted, do I wish we had a PR team that could get us on a red carpet to the meal? Yes, of course, course. Who doesn't? But, but it's this almost is your met gal. Like, it's better. It's, it's so authentic. And like we were talking about, you know, earlier, it's just like, you are taking those bricks down obviously for a future where you can show that it converts better and yada yada. I just, I don't know. I just love the Bop House.

I want to know like, what do you guys do on an off day? Like, what, what is it, what is what is nighttime like? Like, what do you guys so get into? Like, the girls all knew each other previously, like for years before I, I became a part of it. Like, they were all friends for a really long time that kind of lived in their own houses and just kind of like, kiked and got together. Honestly, they never really got together. Like, it was just kind of like, they knew each other. They'd go on group trips together and like, have a good time or whatever. And then I started doing really, really well with this whole podcast thing. The clips that I would be putting out there was drama that happened between, um, Sophie and Aisha. And then I addressed it on my podcast. Had both of them there. They rekindled. And then we're like, wait, this rekindling and being together is fun. Like, do like a Bop House? Like, let's make it a thing. Who thought of the name? I think it was just kind of given. Like, we're all bops. Like, I think it was, no one really thought of it. We just, it just kind of came. Yeah, like, no one was like, we didn't have a meeting. It was like, okay, like, what are we going to call the house? It was just like, bops. Like, we're all bops. And then one of us was like, yo, just do a Bop House. And it's, it's so organic and it's great. I just love anything that flips the nail on the head too. Like, I just, you know what I mean? That's, it's just like, everyone's going to call us this anyways. And like, how funny if we literally trademark this.

Kike, why do I kind of love like the name Bop? Like, it's so cute. It is cute, right? Like, it's like you're calling me a like, how demure, mindful. One time my ex called me a [ __ ] and I didn't know what that. Such good word. Love the word. It's such a like, it's she like, you're just a [ __ ] TSH and I was like, I'm a like, that one's a bit more like, it's more like impactful. Like if you're called a [ __ ] but like, oh, I was being a [ __ ] but like, oh, she's just a bop. Like, yeah, it's so cute. Like, bpop to the top. Bop around. Like, there's so much to do. I love that. I really like it's a house. I mean, that would be funny too. But like, great Bop House. Yeah, take it how you want. Not a lot of hearing it. I want to go there. I feel like [ __ ] Shane Dawson when he would like, when he was just like older and then would do his conspiracy theories and like, [ __ ] show up and like, it's what I'm doing. I'm Shane Dawson, but I'm like, I want to go to the Bop House. You will. Every, you will. You need to come to the Bop House. I'm just so excit. Y'all are both overdue for one, a Miami experience, and two, the Bop House Miami experience. And I'm so excited. And I'm excited for sober Miami. I'm excited for you to like, so Miami Bop House yacht experience. Doesn't get better. It's going to be great.

And this, once again, I know we already said it and I said it earlier, but I just want to say it again. Just everyone's situation is different. This is not glamorizing or telling anyone to do anything. You know, you got to make your own decisions with that and try all the things. And this is a very unique. It's a very, very, very unique experience. Do not, do not just think that, oh, because we do that, you need to go make one and it's going to end up like this. No, it, you. What we don't do is broadcast the horrible things that happen. You know, we are followed. We were broke. Like, we have stalkers. We've broken into. He shattered the back door. He posted pictures of him literally, can I say this? Is this okay? Okay. Of him like masturbating like on our things. Like, he, like, he, yeah, like he went on and was messaging us, like, dick pics while he was breaking into the house. Very vulgar things. That's exactly what my guy would do too. Like, show, send photos of him in my backyard. Like, that [ __ ] is [ __ ] horrifying. And I think that, no, we don't talk about these things. And maybe honestly, maybe we should. I think it's, I think it's important to be so transparent about the full spectrum of what it is. It is. It is. You know, what the sad thing is too, is like, because we're in sex work, not even, we are in sex work and like, because we are in this industry, we tolerate a lot of [ __ ] because it's almost what we deemed to like, be expected, right? Like, yeah, I do tolerate. There are downsides. I tolerate men saying [ __ ] about me to my face and being like, you know, like, just the most vulgar [ __ ] and we're like, you know what, like, I'm not going to sit here and pick a fight with you because I, it's almost like I chose this, so I'm just going to let it. It is. You have to kind of unfortunately, societally eat it. It's something that, you know, you're forsaking for the bag. It's the amount of [ __ ] people have said to me or grabbed me or touched me or whatever. Said I can't imagine to your boyfriend. Yeah, I know. It's, oh my god. I've guys come up to him all the time and like, dap him up and be like, "H" and it's, you got like, I, me personally, like, like, I know you use that hand to jack off. Like, you know, and it, and it does make me uncomfortable. And it would make any woman uncomfortable. Even if it's a guy you previously slept with that knows your boyfriend and then it's like, like, that's an uncomfortable situation. But we posted to make money. So it's like, yeah, our world is. There are parts of our world that are really nice and glamorous. And yeah, we can buy the cars we want. We can buy the house. We can provide for people. And yes, it's amazing and great. But there are things that we just don't talk about that are [ __ ] horrifying. They're disgusting. And to be very honest with you, like, I would not want my daughter to do it. M. I wouldn't. And I think that's, I wouldn't like a powerful thing to say as well because you're like, hey, I'm doing this and I love this, but it's not that. It is you directly saying it's not for everyone else. It's not. And I, and I would hope that it's not. And, and, and a part of me fears, even just being a woman, like, a part of me fears having a daughter. Like, I say it all the time, like, not that I don't want a daughter, I don't want her to go through the, the horrible things that some women have to go through. Not all, but some women have to go through. So me doing this to try and set myself up for my kids, you don't think I know that I'm going to have backlash when they could figure out what Mom D did, D did does, if she's still doing it at the time, hopefully not. But like, I'm setting myself up to try and provide a better life that I didn't have. Yes. So it's, same. I feel you. So it's like, I know what I'm doing. I know the backlash I'm going to have. And I fear that it will have more of an impact on my daughter than it would if I had a son. That's just how I personally feel about. That's the thing. We were talking about this. It's like, you raise the son to not be bad to the world. You raise the daughter to protect herself from the world. You know, and it's like, yeah, 100%. It is just very, very wild. And, and I feel like I would be such a different mom to a girl than I would to a guy right now. That'll probably change. And every, your world flips upside down when you have kids in a, in a, the best way possible. Way more helicopter with a daughter though. Like, I would just be, I think an overbearing mother. Like, I would be just the [ __ ] ciest, like, [ __ ] mom to a daughter because like, what the [ __ ] do you mean you're going to go? No, you're not going anywhere. Like the [ __ ] you're going out? You went on and you met the [ __ ]? No, you're not going on no dates. You're 17. Like, my daughter was 17 trying to go on a date. Like, I'd [ __ ] grab her the neck. Tire up. Like, no, no. That sounded bad. Like, I tire to the bed and be like, you're not [ __ ] going anywhere. I, I know. And it's so. But then it's like, so scary because it's like, those are the kids that end up. And I was never like that. My mom let me do whatever the [ __ ] I wanted. Me too. But because of that, I didn't want to do anything bad. Yeah, I totally get you. Psychological warfare being a parent. Why is it that I want to be like, I'm Shel? Like, you, you are not doing anything because the world is so scary. Like, oh my god, because the world is so [ __ ] scary, dude. I mean, it's as you get older at too, you just realize like, I mean, we always [ __ ] say this, but it's like, your parents are just [ __ ] people trying to navigate this [ __ ]. Can we talk about how that is the craziest experience to go through is when your mind, like, it's almost like a day and night click of you've outgrown your parents. We, I literally said this on the last episode. Like, you literally outgrow your parents. The strangest thing. The weirdest feeling. Well, and just cuz society is moving so fast. And cuz our experience is so different from theirs, different from their, our world. This will never happen again as well though. Like, once like Malibu Barbie pis is a mom and she has a kid, they will fully be in the technology. The world is [ __ ] up place. Like, but there will be something that they have that we didn't. Yes. But I wonder if it'll ever be, best baby of the generation. Like, our grandparents were using [ __ ] rotary phone. You know, like, it is insane. The technological and just societal difference. Like, imagine explaining Hinge to them. Imagine explaining. My grandma would have loved it. True. Like, it's a DoorDash. Like, it's just, it, don't, I don't know. It's so wild. Like, and my, my exactly. Like, the, the, the day that I like, couldn't ask, not ask my parents for advice, but like, that they didn't understand what I was doing anymore was the day that I, it was crazy. I say it all the time. I'm like, I have to choose a relationship with my parents. Yeah, like, that was when I knew like, okay, I have to wake up every day and choose to have a relationship with you because I do not need you. Yes. And you may might feel like they don't understand you. So it's like a hard thing. And, and I, especially with fame as well and money and all of those things, you know. 100%. And it's like, what I love about it the most is like, my mom and my parents want to know everything. So like, I'll call them like on a day-to-day basis and like, keep them updated. And I have to, I choose every day to keep them in the loop about everything I'm doing. Like, I recently, like, we just put an offer for a house and we got accepted. Like, buying my first house. Like, that is something that my parents, like, you're as a parent, you probably always dream of your kid buying their first house. And like, they didn't do it until they. The fact that they're so supportive and amazing is awesome. My mom is the most. It shows though in your emotional maturity as well. My dad is the, he is that guy. Let me tell you. And that's the like, girls with o do have good parents. I do have a dad. He's [ __ ] incredible. He is that man. Let me tell you. Got this man a new set of aners. A [ __ ] red cherry red Corvette. Like, this man is in hising time. He looks great. He's like going to the gym. I like recently retired them. So like, they're like thriving on a new level. I'm like, this is, this right here is what I literally live for. And what you were put on this Earth to do. Oh my god. Like, that brings me so much joy because it's like, I never got like, it's like watching my parents live again. It is a crazy thing. It is so, it's so cute. Like, it's just like, I'm like, you know what, like, you go and drive with the top down and go get like, overly expensive steak for no reason. You go and do that. You go and make a dumbass purchase because you couldn't before. Yeah. And that makes me so happy though. I love seeing this like side of you. And you are just a softy. Sweety. I really am. Like, to the people like, even like with Julia, like, we [ __ ] we have to do of me and Julia like, L like, we don't the [ __ ] back. I can't wait for that too. Like, honestly. Yeah. Leave as Trina wherever the [ __ ] she is. Maybe you'll come on my podcast and we'll like, just do like a whole like lure background of how Tana got to where Tana is. And where me and Julie got. Yes, I would [ __ ] love to. I think even just that you have the power too to where you're bringing all of your friends into this. And like, and I've been [ __ ] over many times by the people that I've tried bringing into my world. And that they just honestly weren't meant for it. But like, Julia was like, the last friend that I have from back home. MH. The, when I say the last, like, I mean, like, she was one of like, the OG friends that I was like, I have these like fantasies in my head when I started doing this. Envisioned all of my friends being there, whether they were in the industry as far as social media or not. Like, I always envisioned them just being there to like, let's praise each other and like, our own successes. And the last resort was like, Julia's. Julia's life story is just a very impactful story. So I'll let her tell it. But like, bringing her into my world. Like, and watching her flourish in her way. I almost like, it was like a segue. And then it was like, she was chosen by the people. Literally. Like, people were like, oh my god, I, something about her, I love. And then it was just like, kind of, you know, it's like, such a cute story. It, it's adorable. Like, that's what I live for. It's like, yeah, money is great. But like, what the [ __ ] does it matter? It's also like, you saying it's funny. We've been talking about advice we would like want to give our younger selves a lot lately. It's been this whole thing. But like, one of the things I thought about yesterday was like, and even advice I would give you right now at 22 is like, you think all these things are going to be forever. And they, they might not be. And as you're even, you're already experiencing this, getting older and realizing these things are chapters. And I hope you're just so present in the moment. And this bot P. There might be, you know, look at the High House. They thought they'd be forever. And then Charlie and Addison, all them would be together. And then, you know what I mean? It blew up in flames. And like, whatever. Like, just really be so present in this moment. Cuz what you're doing is so special. And everyone's trying to recreate it. And you are the 100%. Like, that's my biggest flaw. Yeah. And it's hard. You, you just start going fast, especially when you're young. And all this is coming at you. But like, just know that this is so special. And that your story is so one of a billion. And I just be as present as you [ __ ] can be. And be like, this might all be different tomorrow. I know. And that's. And that's what your 20s is for. Everyone. You think the friends you're going to have or the person you're dating is forever. And then it's like, the worst and best drug ever. It's like, I'm always like, chasing that, that new high. Like, it's like a new viral thing. But it's like, I, I just genuinely forget, bro. I'm 22. Living with one of my like, best friends. And we need to do like, I, this is something that, yeah, I don't go out. I don't literally do anything that a 20, regular or most 22-year-olds are doing in Miami, right? And it's like, a lot of the times, it's good and bad though. Julia is like, the other side. She's like, we need to go out. We need to like, even my he's like, we need to do these things. And I'm like, no, but we could be doing this. We could be. And, um, I need to enjoy it because I know I'll regret it. I'm just like you though. And I think this world, there are certain types of people where you like, get in this world and it's, you start seeing those numbers. And then you're chasing the next thing. And whatever. And even I, like, I found myself holding a failed convention or having a fake live stream marriage because I'm so lost in chasing that next thing. And in reality, people [ __ ] love you for you, you know? And even an episode of you guys just on the [ __ ] couch is your next asht Trina episode. It is your next moment, you know? And yeah, I just, I, I think that's so valuable because I think obviously hearing it from people that I watch, right? Like, of course, I've watched you guys. I've seen the journey of Tana. [ __ ] been a fan. Okay. OG. And so it's like, hearing that from someone that's been doing it is, it's impactful for sure. And I think that I do need to focus on, okay, this is happening right now. You will get those numbers regardless because you are you. Like, you are. Yeah, we love you. Stop guys. We love you so much. [ __ ] I think, I think we had a successful. I think this was great. This is the first time I've spoken in general about like, someone being interested in my story, right? Because when you talk about other people's stories, you don't, I don't get to throw in my [ __ ] personality and two cents. So y'all got the first. And you are so much. You are so much more than just the beefs. And I almost wish people did that for me. I think that's why my whole tune changed in today's episode. Originally was like, yes, come give us the tea on these major things. But then you sit down and I just see so much of myself in you. I don't know. Like, I'm so drawn to you. And I'm like, [ __ ] this, you are so much more than just, you know what I mean? Like, the moments. And you're going to have a very long, big, successful Mrs. Beast career. My God. And yes, changing lives. And I hope that when you do see that first YouTube video where like, the house R by, when a house and like, change your life. I hope you're sitting there like, I'm so excited. Yes, I will be. A matter of fact, I'm just know I'm always here. Just, I love you. I'm supporting. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for coming on the podcast. I love you guys. This is incredible. Thank you.