Tom Brady | Champion Mindset

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How you doing, Jim? How are you?

Good, man. Nice to see you. Thank you for joining us.

Yeah, my pleasure.

This is a real belt.

The blessing for me in so many ways as a young athlete was I was never like the kid that was like, "Hey, that's the one that's going to make it to the NFL."

How do you make sure that you're ready for it, you take advantage of it? All these players in the NFL, they want it easy Monday through Saturday, and then Sunday gets really hard. Good programs in the NFL, it's really hard Monday through Saturday.

I ended up going to Michigan and I started as the seventh quarterback because [clears throat] I loved it. I never minded working hard. I liked hard. So the harder that got, the more I liked it.

It's really painful to lose a Super Bowl and I lost three of them. And those are the three hardest losses of my life. And I think I'm proud of the fact that even though we lost some that were very important, we always found ways to come back. And what was our process for that? And then how can we improve it? So if we put ourselves back in that situation, we can succeed.

What's up, guys? Welcome to the beautiful Found Blue Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada for Champion Mindset with Daniel Cormier, a UFC and Fanatics original production. Today, we are joined by the greatest football player of all time, Tom Brady.

Yeah, great to be here with you and I appreciate the introduction and even you know when you people always say the greatest of all time and you know you hear that now all the time basically and I just think for me it was always how do I give my very best every day and it's like I'm sure for you you probably didn't think about >> no >> you just thought about hey how can I win this day and then what it becomes you look back over a period of time you're like damn you know what I did all right for myself did all right like it I didn't leave a lot you know left in the tank so I think That's probably the best way to approach.

But even the greatest of all time conversation for so many, even Michael Jordan. Yeah. Now they're saying, "Well, LeBron James might be better." Yeah. We don't get that with you. It's almost universal. And that's where you different. That's where you're different >> than other people. Because >> I don't hear anyone going, "Well, they're better than Tom Brady."

So all the work that you did ultimately >> showed itself in your career and obviously you won all those Super Bowls. But it didn't start like that. Yeah.

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How do How do you stay the course whenever success isn't showing itself?

I think it's a we all had a unique journey to get to where we're at. And I think, you know, like and I've been around thousands of football players, you know, just teammates and people that you see come from all parts of the country and they have all different some are fivestar recruits, some are barely recruited, some get to the NFL as undrafted free agents, some are first round picks.

And >> the blessing for me in so many ways as a young athlete was I was never like the kid that was like, "Hey, that's the one that's going to make it to the NFL." I was always the one that they were like, "Yeah, you know, he's talented, but you know, maybe he can go to a division two school." Yeah. And I had like a I was I would say I was a late bloomer >> pretty much as an athlete. And I think all all the kids were physically always a bit better than I was. And I was just young. I didn't really mature into my body. Like I didn't start shaving till I was like a senior in high school. Really? Yeah. I was just like always kind of behind physically. And when I be because I was behind physically, it it and I always had a work ethic, but it really made me work hard. Like I just remember in fourth grade and fifth grade, I was my sisters had three older sisters and my you know my cousin Shawn. Yeah, Sean. We all grew up in >> Where did Sean go to school? I >> Sean went to Aragon High School right down the street from Sarah, but he was our my our first cousin. I mean, >> we [snorts] spent every holiday together and you know, we had a very athletic family. had three older sisters that were all great athletes and they softball, um, basketball, um, soccer. They all played in college and I was kind of the the baby. So, I was kind of coddled by my mom >> cuz I was the baby. >> Yeah. >> I was caught by my dad cuz I was the only boy and I was cuddled by three sisters. So, I would say I was not the toughest kid. Yeah. >> You know, I was kind of like everything was always like, "Oh, don't worry, you know, you'll figure it out." But I always love playing and I love sports and I love competing. But all the boys in the neighborhood were always better than I was. And then as I got through elementary school and into high school when I remember going to high school and like looking at these kids in the freshman year and they're shaving and they're putting all their pads on. And I never even tried out for football till my freshman year. >> And like these kids were putting on pads and I was looking at them like how do you put this on like [laughter] hip pads? And >> so you go out there early in my freshman year and I was like all right I'm going to play football because the Niners were so good. Yeah. >> So naturally I was like, "Oh man, I kind of fell in love with football cuz the Niners were great." >> But I went to a baseball school. Barry Bonds went to my high school who I think is the greatest baseball player ever. >> And that should not be questioned. >> He was unbelievable. And he came to he came back to the Barry to play for the Giants when I was a freshman in high school. So it was like this crazy baseball school I was at. >> And then I was like, "But I kind of like football. Let me try out." So I try out for the freshman team. And I make the team because everybody makes teams of freshman. There's three teams. There's a freshman team, a JV team, and a varsity team. And I make the freshman team because everyone makes it, but I'm the backup quarterback on the freshman team. So, I never play that whole year. We never win a game. But they barely put me in ever. And then my second year, the guy who started was like, "Fuck this. I'm not playing, >> you know, football anymore. I'm going to just play basketball." So, I tried out for junior varsity. I made the junior varsity team was starting quarterback. and we kind of fell in love with the sport again because the coaches made it fun and they knew we didn't win a game as freshman. So then I'm going into my third year and I'm like, "All right, I kind of really love football now." My dad was like, "Wow, you're kind of really into this. Let's go get some, you know, there's a throwing coach up at the College of San Monteo. You should go let's go try to throw the ball better." >> And I really got into it. And again, with this work ethic that I had that I would always say like is was pretty natural. >> And I and I don't think a lot of people think as work ethic is like innate. Yeah. Yeah, >> but like some people are tall and some people are fast and some people are strong. >> But I do believe there's an innate part about a work ethic too that I was very blessed that I >> didn't mind going to work out and didn't mind training and all those things that maybe other kids, you know, had that I didn't have like the speed and the the jumping ability. What I I had a work ethic and I had discipline and you can't really see those things. >> Yeah. So, I I play decent my my third year in high school and then I trout for, you know, varsity again. I make the varsity team and I'm I'm pretty good. I'm I get better. I'm not great, but I kind of get lightly recruited >> to to Michigan. >> But how how how do you go how how did you end up at Michigan? This is a great a big school. >> A big school. And I So, like this is the gamut of colleges that were looking at me like the College of Sono was looking at the city, you know, it's like a junior JC College in Sonteo. There were teams like like Army that would look and then no one knows Army and then BYU. Okay, that was a little better. Fresno State, it's like you know at the time like not the greatest school but you know yeah they could throw the ball pretty good. Yeah. But then like Illinois in the Big 10 and I was like oh that's interesting. And then finally like Michigan came out of nowhere >> and fortunately they kind of ran a offense that required a bigger taller quarterback that could throw the ball and process information which is kind of what my skill set was. Mhm. >> So after my third year and again the era of our era was very different. There wasn't the digital era where everyone sees your highlights and >> Yes. >> everyone knows who everybody is all the time. >> You're shipping tapes. >> Yeah. So my I went with my dad cuz my dad was like he always facilitated like my parents never put pressure on me. There was always kind of pressure within myself but they always were like whatever I wanted to do they were like yeah let's go for it. Like I want to go to the Stanford football camp dad. All right. Let's let's get you there. Dad, I don't know and I had a really fun I had a fun time. Should we go to the University of Arizona football camp? Yeah, let's go down there together and we made it like a father-son trip. >> So, it was like my dad was always there when I was a a baseball player in high school and I wasn't hitting the ball good. My dad was like, "Come on, let's go to the batting cage at night, >> you know, like screw English. Let's go to let's go to the batting cage." >> He put the time he needed. >> Yeah. And he was just there, you know, and I think like if you think of how long odds there are for kids to become a professional athlete, it's impossible. But I think the blessing for our for my parents at least, they never said like, "Hey, you know, we should think about something different." >> You know, they were kind of allin too. And like I always try to encourage parents like and I even say with my own kids like I don't know what the they're going to become. >> But like I'm never going to tell them no that they can't >> they can't do anything. Like they could if they put if they work hard enough, they put their mind to it, they can because just because that was my journey. And >> like I said, I probably wasn't the top recruit out of the Bay Area. I was one of I don't know seven 10 guys on the west coast that was kind of recruited and then um Michigan ended up offering me a scholarship was I went on a visit and they kind of liked my size and what I could do and >> I'm sure they weren't too sure about what I could accomplish but then I ended up going to Michigan and I started as the seventh quarterback >> on the depth chart and again I think the thing that was really different for me was >> and it really carried me through my entire career was my my my work ethic um my curiosity to learn from people that were better than me. >> Mhm. >> I never I never let off like I I I didn't know everything, you know? I still don't. I don't know I don't know most about anything. Yeah. >> I know what I know and basically what >> I've I've studied. But a lot of people have come into my life over the years that have been like, "Hey, like I see you're kind of lacking that. Let me try to help you in some way." Either it was physically, mentally, or emotionally. And I needed all that growth in different areas. And I look at so many athletes are only valued on their physicality. Like when the NFL draft comes around every year, it's like, man, this guy's 6'4, 215 pounds, and he runs a 4-3. And I'm like, yeah, but does he work hard? Is he obsessed? >> And does he know how to play football? >> Yeah. Can he >> I I've never I never understood, Tom, how you go through the process now in the draft >> and they're talking about all these numbers and ignoring essentially the things that are on the field at times when at times if you don't see what's on the field, you may end up passing on the greatest player of all time. >> Yeah. >> Right. I mean >> Marcus Coloulston was one of the last guys picked and look at how good he was because he didn't run as fast. I know, >> right? So, it's like some of those things people don't see to the blind eye. And a lot of that with kids is when the older kid, right, develops faster, the coaches are drawn to them. Totally. >> But when you go to Michigan, >> it's a deep bench. >> Yeah. >> It's a deep bench. Good players, >> but you stayed a course. That's like a thing that you have, right? Regardless of >> the regardless of the the obstacle. >> Yeah. >> You stayed a course. I I I kind of really go went through that. Like I grew up in Louisiana. >> Unbelievable athlete. >> I'm playing middle school football, but so is Kevin Faulk. >> Wow. >> So they're like running over. Everybody's going to Kevin. He's the best. >> That's my boy. >> I know. He was the man. >> Yeah. >> You You know, I got a great story about Kevin. >> One time we're playing him. I'm a sophomore in high school. Kevin's a senior. >> Yeah. >> They always made him the quarterback. Really? >> Because they they wanted to make sure he had the ball every time. >> Yeah. >> We got to the one yardd line, almost score. >> They stop us. Fourth and one. Kevin runs a 99 yard quarterback sneak. All hey, you just dive at that point. When he gets in front of you, you dive because you don't want to be chasing him when he opens it up to 30 yards when he scores the end zone. So, yeah, he was amazing. But >> yeah, >> you stayed a course, right? >> Yeah. >> You're going into your last year and you're still competing for a spot. >> Totally. >> There's got to be some pride in that though, knowing that you went out and earned that position. >> Yeah. And I think like when I look back again back at high school, it's like didn't start as a freshman. Had to work really hard to even make the team my second year. Okay. Became the starter. Then I tried out for varsity. Had to work really hard to be the starter on varsity. Had to work really hard my fourth year to get recruited, make it to Michigan. I'm seventh on the depth chart. But because I loved it, I never minded working hard. I never minded like working on my throwing mechanics, working on my drops, going in the weight room and trying to be a little bit stronger, be a little more sturdy in the pocket, eating a little bit better as time went on. And then it's like, okay, at Michigan you go from seventh to now I go into my second year and I'm kind of like maybe this Michigan is too much for me, you know? And I questioned myself for a little bit because I was like, I'm like third or fourth on the depth chart. The guy who's the starter is only one year ahead of me. So maybe I'll never play here if he plays good because the coaches seem to love him. And there was a sport psychologist that came into my life. His name was Greg Harden. And Greg unfortunately passed away. And he was a mentor for me. But a lot of other great athletes at Michigan, Michael Phelps and Desmond Howard. And he would always call it like self-defeating attitudes and behaviors. And that we all have them. And we all have the like the poor me. I'm not getting my chance. Let me blame someone else. >> Yep. Yep. And it was like he he was like, "I'm tired of that Like knock that off. Like you ain't dealing with that anymore. Like you're going to come in here. I'm going to start working with you. We're going to change your attitude." >> That inner you got to kick ass all the time. >> Kick. Because we all have it. That inner when that inner starts going, "Hey, I'm here. You got to put your foot in his ass and get him out of there." >> Yeah. Always. And it was like a It always creeps into your mind, especially when you're Okay. Let's say you're California kid and you're kind of baby by everybody. Then you go to the Midwest and it's cold. Boy, remember before the cell phones like you couldn't just pick up the cell phone and call your parents and they were a long way. You're out there on your own. You need to grow up. You need to start assuming responsibility for life. And then if you don't have a lot of champions for you, then you better become a champion for yourself and you better like try to develop confidence within yourself so that you can grow up and be the kind of person or player or student or whatever you want to be. You don't have to be an athlete. You don't you got to do what what you want in your life. And everyone I mean you wanted to be a great wrestler. You wanted to be a great MMA champion. >> Like that's up to you. like and now you had a lot of people to support you. But that had to be like >> when you wake up in the morning like you're probably thinking about, you know, submissions. You're probably thinking about like, all right, if I fight that guy, this is how I'm going to handle it. For me, I was brushing my teeth in the morning thinking about my throwing mechanics. I'm like looking in the mirror like, okay, if I want to, you know, look this guy off, this is what I'm going to do. And >> there was like just a great I call it like a metamorphosis >> in a good way. you know, you got to change over time and you're constantly changing as a result of the experiences that kind of come in front of you. And I'm very blessed that things didn't go my way for my high school career that weren't easy. In my college career, I almost think about leaving my sophomore year. My junior year, my third year, I'm the backup and we win the national championship. Then I go into my fourth year and I'm competing my ass off with a true freshman and I'm like, how am I competing? I'm I'm thought I was better. I probably wasn't that much better, but maybe a little bit. And maybe I should thought I was better than I was, but that's not like I had some great year my fourth year. And then going into my last year, they named me team captain, but I'm like, >> "Oh man, I'm going to be a pro quarterback." But of course, no one else probably thought that. And I had a pretty good senior year. And then I'm like, "All right, I'm going to get drafted in like the second or third round, and I get drafted in the sixth round." But those were all great things for me because when we look back, I'm like, "Yeah, had I been a top draft a top uh recruit, had I been a top draft pick, I don't know. Would my work ethic be the same? What I think?" I don't know. Maybe I'm better than these guys. Maybe I could skip that day or because you know why? I've seen so many guys do that at this point. All the guys that all the best ones they I know it's like the guys that usually have the most talent never had to develop the work ethic and they never had to really deal with adversity. >> Like and I look in the pro level now and now that I'm 48 and I'm part of football and I'm part of a team and >> I want to see what guys are made of when it doesn't go their way. Like when it goes well and everyone's patting you on the back or you get a contract or you make all the money that you want or it's like >> how about when you throw three interceptions in the game. I want to hear what you say to the media after that. Yes. Cuz that's going to tell me about who you are. Are you going to say, "Well, was this guy's fault or that guy was a play caller?" Or be passive aggressive or are you going to take ownership and say, "You know what? Like, it was my fault. I messed up and I'm going to make sure that I don't do that again. And I'm going to show you guys, my teammates, my coaches that through my work ethic and my attitude that I'm actually going to put my actions behind my words." And when I've had teammates that do that, >> that's when we've had the best teams. Yeah. like you know you you're you're my receiver and I'm the quarterback and I we up a ball and the first thing I say is hey my fault man I gotta I'll make a better throw and then if you say no I got to run a better route I got to and then I know you got chemistry we're locked in >> but if I'm like >> this guy can't and you're going this guy can't throw and I see it all the time >> and you're just like okay it's never going to work it might work for a little bit but in terms of the real competition I know I don't have to worry about those guys I got worry about the guys that are always looking at themselves going, "How can I be better? How can I be a better teammate? How can I show up with a better attitude? How can I put the team first more often? How can I work harder? Like, how can I help my receivers be better? How can I make the line be better? How can I make the coaches be better?" Which means you have to be selfless. And how can you be a selfish person in a team sport? >> Yeah. >> You know why we can be that? Because in today's world, we're so encouraged to be so selfish on team sports. Yeah. And I think like that's the one thing as an older player that I was and then I became that like I said now I'm an older figure in the sport like I want to see a team sport be a team sport. Yeah. >> Like that's the beauty of team sports. >> You know I uh I went to AKA to train. >> I walked in as an Olympian and a heavyweight and Kane Velasquez was heavyweight champion at the time >> and he never saw me as a potential opponent down the line. And because of that, when it was time, when I had worked myself up to number two in the world, I said, I'm going to go to 205 because he set the standard for what a teammate should be. And so, I felt like I needed to go down to avoid >> Wow. >> that ability. I didn't want to fight him. >> Yeah. >> As the guy that was on the verge of a title fight and that's he uplifted me. >> And a lot of times a leader can do that for someone and it really does elevate them. But when you go to the NFL draft, >> Yeah. There's six quarterbacks picked before you. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> I once said after I won the heavyweight title, I said, >> "Tonight was a culmination of my career and it showed me what I could have been as a heavyweight. I've been second a lot of times." >> Yeah. >> I was second in the NCAA tournament. >> I was fourth at the Olympics. >> Jon Jones beat me. But I never ever doubted >> Yeah. >> that at some point I would hold that belt and I would be the king of the world. >> Yeah. >> You same thing. Never ever doubt it >> regardless of how it happened. >> Drew Bleto gets hurt. Okay, you got us as a big underdog. Okay, I'mma show you. >> Just like I've shown you time and time again. >> Yeah. >> The hard work is there, the mentality is there, the smarts are obviously there, >> but when you're in all of these moments, when that big opportunity does show itself, >> yeah, >> how do you make sure that you're ready for it, you take advantage of it? >> Yeah. I think of it's like a lot of the opportunities you you know my friend always says like a lot of pe people missed opportunities because they're dressed in overalls and it looks like work. >> Yeah. >> And the reality is is like when I stepped onto the field as a professional after 911 and I got a chance to go lead a team. That's not when you know that I turned the light switch on. >> Yeah. Like I turned a light switch on as a freshman in high school preparing for an opportunity and then I got it in that moment and all along the way like when I got to Michigan there was a great saying that our practice facility was on this on this street called State Street and then there was stadium was like about a mile up the road and it was always like you better learn to be a State Street quarterback before you become a big house quarterback. >> Yeah. >> And it was like it's never about that moment. It's about what led you to that moment. And I through my work with Greg Harden, the sports psychologist, he would say, "When you go out on the practice field and you run a two-minute drill and they put you in there in practice, you treat that drill like it's a gamewinning drive against Ohio State." >> Like, I don't want to hear this. It's only practice. >> I don't want to hear it's like didn't matter because nobody was watching. it needs to matter as much to you on that practice field as it does when you do it on the game field. And it was a like eyeopening experience for me. And again, I had these different mentors and I had other quarterbacks in the room that treated the same way cuz that was the culture of that position at Michigan. And I was so lucky. I mean, I chose Michigan. >> Yeah. >> And I didn't know that's what the foundation of that program was built on. Bo Sheckler used to say the team, the team, the team. And I was like I was like, I'm all about the team. And then I'm around these quarterbacks that are like with Elvis Gerbach who was a great pro quarterback and Todd Collins and Jim Harbaugh. There was a great history of quarterbacks. So we were all trying to live up to the standard that those guys set. So when I came into that quarterback room, I felt like, all right, I got to I got to be the guy that they were. So I got to put I got to do the same things that they were taught. So I became that stage three street quarterback. In my work with Greg Harden, I went out there on practice days and treated them like game days. And when they put me in for a two-minute drill, even if I was third on the depth chart or second on the depth chart, if we scored, I celebrated like it was like we won. Like we beat Ohio State. >> So all my teammates are kind of looking around like, man, this guy is serious. >> Like he's it's a big moment. Like Wednesday in October for me was a big day. And then so that when it became the big moment, I already been in the big moment. [snorts] I'd been in a moment a lot. And it's like you try to like there's a big problem in the NFL. It's like you play the game on Sunday but everybody all these players in the NFL they want it easy Monday through Saturday and then Sunday gets really hard. >> Yeah. >> And the program that I was involved in for 20 years and the good programs in the NFL it's really hard Monday through Saturday >> and then Sunday it's fun and it's not easy but it's fun and enjoyable but you're prepared for the test. Yeah. >> But most people we don't want to be pushed. I would say it's very most people don't want to be pushed that hard. They want to be pushed to their level of comfort. Y >> and once they're outside their comfort zone, they're like, "Oh, I'm not used to this. Oh, I don't like this. My heart's beating too fast." Or, "Man, I'm feeling different feelings and emotions." And it's like, that's where you're that's where the growth lives. You need coaches that push you outside of your comfort zone because that's how you grow and that's how you begin to develop self-confidence and self-esteem in what you're doing. You try, you fail. They push you to deal with the failure. You get another chance to go out and practice and practice it. Then you succeed and you realize, >> oh, that's what I need to do differently the next time. As opposed to the athletes who try something that's hard, they fail and now it discourages them from trying the same thing that's hard again. >> Yeah. >> And I had a lot of teammates like that. Like there's guys that are on the practice squad in the NFL. So there's 53 and I learned this, you know, again over a period of years, but there's 53 guys on the active roster and there's now 15 guys on the practice squad. So there's 68 players. But those practice squad players are important because if anybody on the active roster gets hurt, they can get elevated to the squad. Well, there was times where these 15 guys would would do really well in practice and they'd be practicing and you'd be like a scout team receiver. And I saw this happen a lot. these scout team receivers would come in and practice with, you know, the scout team and they do really well. And I'd be watching. I'm like, man, we got to get that guy like, let's get him on up on offense. He's making a lot of plays. That's Derrell Rivas he's getting open on. Like, we got to do something. >> Then all of a sudden, we're like, hey man, you're doing really well. You got to come over here and deal with the pressure of succeeding now that you have expectation. >> And these guys are like, they weren't prepared for it. So whatever we saw in practice against where there was not a lot of pressure, now when they're put in a situation where there's an expectation for performance, they've never had to personally deal with that and then they fail. And then what I realized was a lot of guys on those practice squads, they don't want to be elevated to the roster. They're very happy living this life where they could tell their family and friends, which I have no problem with that. Like there's no problem. Like you would just assume though that if you're on the practice squad, you'd want to be at the top. But the reality is a lot of guys don't want the pressure of dealing with top. And even I would say >> like getting to the playoffs and winning a Super Bowl. There's another level of scrutiny when you lose a Super Bowl. It's really painful to lose a Super Bowl. >> You and I lost three of them. And those are the three hardest losses of my life. >> But you can't win the Super Bowl unless you're in the Super Bowl. >> But if you're in the Super Bowl, you have a chance to lose the Super Bowl. Yeah. So, it's like, do those defeats crush you and do they feel like they're such a burden that you can't overcome them? And I think I'm proud of the fact that even though we lost some that were very important, we always found ways to come back and like look at, okay, what was our process for that? And then how can we improve it? So, if we put ourselves back in that situation, we can succeed. >> Yeah. You can't win if you're not in the game. Yeah. >> You can't [clears throat] win.

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You know, you talk about practice. I would do that. I I lit my heart would flutter. Every time that cage closed on me in the gym, >> I'd get so nervous. I would go put myself in the corner >> to try to gather my my my my breath. Yeah. and just settle myself before I went into sparring cuz I did want it to feel like a fight. >> And so I'm smiling because there are so many things in that we share. >> Yeah, I know. >> Because even the guys that are just in the gym, hey, I'm an MMA fighter. >> Yeah. >> But I I want to be in the photo with >> Khabib and DC and Kane, >> but I don't want to be out front. >> I want to make sure that I'm following >> these guys. And ultimately, that is what separates you from everyone else. I say this and it was kind of my mantra. Uh, embrace the grind. That was my thing. T-shirts, every embrace the grind. >> Yeah. >> And somebody asked me, I was at Texas A&M University talking to their football team and they said, "What does that mean exactly, coach?" Uh, it was uh Jimbo Fischer was the coach at the time. >> I said, "You know what embrace the grind means?" I said, "I want to look forward >> Yeah. >> to the hardest part of the day." >> Yeah. I don't want to think about, oh, by tonight I get home, I get to eat and I get to play my video game or I get to watch TV. >> No, I want to look forward to getting out of class and going straight to the football field and working or going straight into sparring after I have been doing something that I don't necessarily want to do. >> Yeah. >> The hardest part of the day is the part of the day that I look forward to the most. Yeah. >> Because I know that if I can set my mind to get through that >> Yeah. That's nothing else is difficult. >> Yeah. >> And that's like the best I think. >> Do you have many coaches that pushed you outside of your comfort zone? Tom, >> you get to that point and then you go more. >> Yeah. >> You get to that point and then you go more. But I was lucky, right? Whereas you had your sports psychologist, you went to that great program. I had a guy named John Smith, the greatest American wrestler of all time. Kevin Jackson is an Olympic champion. I was surrounded by greatness. So, by being surrounded by all that greatness, I was like, "Yo, I want to be a an Olympic champion." Yeah. >> At 17 years old, I'm in Louisiana in 1996 going, >> "I want to be an Olympic champ." When everything was taped delayed. I had to stay up till 2 in the morning to watch wrestling at the Olympics. >> So then by the time I was at the Olympics, I'm like, I've been waiting for this for eight years. >> Yeah. >> For an opportunity. It didn't work out, but it was like I knew that that's what I wanted. >> Yeah. And I think watching and and studying up on you, your work ethic, it's honestly, man, people ask me, "How do you do it?" And I'm like, "Well, >> I don't want to be normal. >> I don't want to be normal. I've excelled >> in sport >> and I want to excel at life. I watch your show in Birmingham." >> Yeah. >> In the work. You're flying to England, coming back, calling the Super Bowl. You talked about that as a kid, >> but you are still carrying that work ethic now. Why is that so important? >> I think that I think because we never like u you grew up as a kid in Louisiana. You didn't know what you were going to become. Like did you ever think you'd be >> Yeah. a true champion in life and then get these amazing opportunities and it's like when you get them you're like how can I say no to this? >> Yes. >> Like this is like a dream come true. And it's like sometimes it maybe feel a little overwhelming for us because yeah, it is work and and again I never mind work. I always enjoy like feeling fulfilled with part of the day, but you're also looking at like people would dream of this opportunity and I want to get out there and take advantage of it and do it and like you do such a great job broadcasting. you've done it for a long time like and like how the joy you guys bring to that telecast and like you and Joe and just the camaraderie you have and it's just it adds so much and now I get to be in broadcasting watching the guy watching the thing that I love that I studied and I appreciate the nuance of it and how hard it is and like it's not easy but I saw it every day like there's an appreciation that even though I was really good at it I was good at it because I worked really hard at it and If like I look down there on the field and I see guys that are up all the time, I know they're not working harder. So, it's not like that blows me away. What blows me away is the guys that I can probably relate to a little bit more that have been obsessed about, you know, achieving their dreams that have shown a lot of resilience in their career. Like I'm like, I like that guy. >> Yeah. >> I like that guy because that guy, you know, he's earned it and he's put a lot on the line. There's a lot of sacrifices made and and I always think there's something about contact sports and I appreciate this about really MMA and certainly like hockey is like if you're not prepared and this is like football there's a physical toll. >> Yep. >> You can't like around and find out. >> No. >> Like if you're not training right, >> you're going to pay the the the biggest price. >> I always say the the the scariest place Yeah. >> is when you off in practice and you're stuck in the octagon with the killer, right? There's no place scarier in this world than standing there and Buffer's like introducing you and you're like, "Yo, I didn't train hard [laughter] enough." Could you imagine? Like I look at dudes, I'm like, "Yo, >> I was fighting a guy once and I elbowed him, Tom." >> Yeah. >> And it cut him really bad. >> Yeah. >> But when I got up to go back to the stool, I looked back and he was still laying on the ground. I was like, "Oh, he's done." >> Yeah. Could you imagine the thoughts in his mind >> in that moment when you didn't prepare? >> Yeah. >> How can you make a read in 3 seconds if you're lucky >> if you haven't prepared? >> I know >> it's impossible. >> And all that prep too like for a football player is so critically important to the success cuz it's like and I see it now a lot cuz I think in some ways the NFL the caliber of play certainly the quarterback position isn't what it was when I played. I think there's like the preparation we had was so much more involved and so much more intricate and >> we've got to get back to that in the NFL. And if we don't put we put time limits on players abilities to meet with their coaches and be at their facilities and like train and I'm like where in the world do we want this? Why can't we have these guys there improving their craft? But how can they do that if How can they get him back to that when it's kind of been accepted? >> It's been accepted for the wrong reasons. >> For the wrong reasons. How do you push him back to what made you guys so great? Cuz the error was insane. >> I think I think we want to work like the guy there. There are high achievers that want to get back and work hard and find ways in the system who it really benefits because the hard workers like me or like Pton Manning or Drew Brees, I'm just using quarterbacks. others, but the Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, they're going to work no matter what. >> So, because you're not allowing the other guys to work, they're actually gaining a bigger advantage. >> They're getting a bigger advantage as the better. >> So, I I would say like it'll probably swing back at some point. It has to. Like, you know, people wanted 4 day work weeks and three-day work weeks and work from home and then people realize, listen, that ain't the way to be productive. >> I want to go back to work. >> Yeah. Like, people want people like if you look at high achievers, it's like, no, no, no. I enjoy doing what I do. you're taking like the joy of what I do away from me by limiting >> my ability to conversate with the people that I'm going to work with to try to win a championship with. Like >> there just got to be a stupid negotiation in, you know, 2011 with the CBA about, you know, work time and there was just a lot of dynamics going on at the time. And I don't know, I think if you want to be great at something, you've got to commit your life to it. Certainly in a in a in a competitive environment like a sport because You could be better than 80% of the people, but that doesn't mean you'll be a champion. If you want to be a champion, you better be better than 99% of the people, which requires another level of work. You could have a nice long career and be successful and everyone go, "Oh, yeah, he was a nice player working at 80%." But the level to get to the 99% and be better than them. Well, that's another level of, you know, physical, mental, emotional growth. Where do I need to be every day? How can I be better? Like I said, in whatever area. For me, physically, I was behind. I was really good mentally. I knew the plays. I was a savant when it came to the playbook. You put the playbook in front of me. I looked at it. I saw the play. I saw the adjustments. Okay. Flip the page. Okay. I say, "Yep, I got that." And it would just in my mind like I can remember plays. You call a play. I visualize it. I see everyone running. Tell me the coverage. I tell you all the holes. >> That is e that was the easy part for me. Like some guys can run really easily. Yeah. >> And then the emotional part of bringing the competitiveness and the fire every day. That was easy for me. I love that >> The hard thing me was the physical stuff. >> Yeah. >> So, like I finally caught up to people at like 25, 26, 27 where I was like, "Oh

Now I kind of grew into my body. I have the strength I need and I had the work ethic. Now I had the mental and the emotional and now my physical development was really happening."

And then I met my best friend in the world, Alex Guerrero, in the year 2003 who really took care of me for 20 years. Yeah, for sure. That like there's no way I could have played for that long without his care and his teaching of how I needed to take care of my body. So when you add up the physical part which became mastery, the mental part which really came natural for me, but I still liked working at it and that was mastery and then the emotional part which is the challenge for all of us. Certainly as you get older as an athlete because we're sacrificing we get older it's like life's happening. Yep. Kids are happening, family commitments, this people are born, people are dying, they're this, and that's like you're living your life. You're no longer 22 with not a lot of responsibility. You have a lot of responsibility. And now you're like, how do I still compartmentalize these things so I when I go to work, they can still get the best out of me.

"It's all about that process, man. That's one of your buzzwords, process. The process. If you follow it, if you follow that process, man, you can do some real great things."

Yeah. I kind of want to talk to you about emotional because emotion and operating under fire is very difficult. Yeah. You know, Tom, when I would fight, Yeah. I would run to the octagon every time and everybody go, "Why do you run? Why do you run?" I found that because of the way the UFC comes through the curtain, you are in front of all these people. Yeah. And they want to touch you. Yeah. And I felt like it was too much energy for me to absorb before I went into a combat environment. So I ran to avoid people almost taking some of what I needed that I knew I would need inside of that octagon. Yeah. I'm like turning sideways and so that people won't touch me cuz I feel like every time someone slaps your hand, you give them a little bit of yourself. Yeah. And all that needs to be dedicated to what's happening inside the octagon. Yeah.

"Tell me you'd run out and you'd go, 'Let's go.'" Yeah, for sure. And I always wondered, is that a little bit of a release? Because you come from the tunnel. Yeah. And you got a 100,000 and it's just energy. Yeah. And when you would scream, "Let's go." Yeah. Were you trying to like I got to get rid of this recenter. Let's go. Like how do you do Why did you do that? Yeah.

"When you would run cuz everybody says it. I'm tell it became like a real thing. I did it on the scale. Yeah. Cuz I noticed that it settled me. Yeah. I It was almost primal. Let's go. Yeah. Get some of the out of me. Now, let's go do my job. Yeah. Did you feel that?"

Absolutely. It was like a great regulator. And I think you could like if I was too high, I could burn a little of that energy off and then settle in. And if my energy was a little too low, it would bring me right up. And I always wanted that as my baseline. Like, okay, where am I at today? Like, I know where I need to be at to really lock in. Yeah. Yeah. And I know like what I need to feel and I would feel that like in the locker room. I always listen to the same music and I would always try to hit the beats at the right time. It wasn't like OCDish, but I wanted like a similar pattern of warm-up.

"I did the same thing. Yeah, bro. I I literally would put my shorts on the chair in the same exact way, Tom. I I from my weight cut to my clothes off at the octagon. It always had to be because it's a process. Yeah, we're not freestyling out here."

Yeah. And maybe maybe part of it was there was a lot of areas where we did have to freestyle. So, we wanted to lock in a little few certainties cuz like when the game happened or when the fight happened, it was unpredictable, but I didn't want unpredictable before the game and then unpredictable during the game. Like, let's try to get the prediction stuff right. Like even in my broadcasting, I try to do that now. Like, I really try to like it's like a it's like a late night show. Yeah. The first 10 or 15 minutes, they want to hit that out of the park. That's on a T form. Okay, here's the monologue. This is where you're going to crush. You're going to get a lot of good in before we bring the guests in. But when the guests are in, you're going to be warmed up and you're going to be ready to be firing with them to make the show the show. It's not like a freestyle the whole time. So, like I felt like there's part of it which needs to be scripted like in broadcasting. I know exactly what I want to say the first time this person walks out. And I think about it because I'm like, "Okay, what does the audience really want to hear that I think about this guy? Okay, great." And I really go, "Okay, when when Josh Allen runs out on the field, this is what I really think about him." And I want to make sure I nail that. Yeah. And that's Now, you don't get to do that the whole game. No, you get to do that for like the first quarter of the game, and then the last three quarters are the same. And as a football player, we used to script the first 15 plays of the game, which was around the first quarter of the game. So, you kind of want to go, all right, before the game starts, we want to nail down, I'm certain you're going to call this. I'm certain you're going to call this. So, I can really lock in on those certainties cuz then it becomes a in the fourth quarter and now you're just playing ball. Yeah. So, a lot of that prep that I used to do on the football field for 23 years, I've tried to transfer into broadcasting where it's like I can nail some things early so that I can get off to a really good start and that can carry me through the the the next three quarters.

"I mean, you've done an amazing job broadcasting cuz you're on the you're on like the number one team, you're calling Super Bowls, right? So, that greatness has followed, but it's about regulating the emotion under fire. very much."

So many great athletes can take when that octagon door closes, there's a pen that they put in there. Yeah. I could hear it, Tom. Wow. In in the main event in front of 20,000, every time that pen dropped. Yeah. I'd hear and I'm like, "Okay, somebody got to die." Right. Like it's him or me. I can't jump over this mother. I can't jump over the bench and go home now. Too old. It's too late to take my ball and go home. Yeah, dude. Poise in that environment. How how do you regulate that? Yeah. When you're fourth and five. Yeah. And the and a big game's on the line and coach is like, "We're going for it." How do you regulate? How do you slow down the heart rate? Because that's where people struggle. Yeah. The heart It's too fast. Yeah. Everything has to slow down in the biggest moments. Yeah. How do you think you develop that?

"I was and I and I tried to always make my heart rate go fast in practice. I tried to make my heart go fast in golf. I tried to make my heart go fast when we played basketball. When you shoot the hoops, I tried to make it go fast when I played back in. I when I was competing in all those years, everything was a we did punt. We did quarterbacks would punt after practice on a Friday and it would be from the 50 yard line. You try to get as close to the goal line without going in the, you know, to to be a touchback. And that got competitive and it was just because that was training. Yes."

Because like in the big moments, think about it and and I love this about football when there's and just like what you alluded to. I'm sure once you got in the octagon, you felt safe from everybody else. Yes. When I had when I had 100,000 people in the stands, but I was on that field, that was the purest me. There was no faking it. Like I always said, "Yeah, I was a reality TV star, you know, for 23 years." Then five and, you know, two years in college when I played. Like I was on TV every week and that was reality TV. There was no acting. I didn't fake anything. What you saw on the sideline was who I was. The trippy part is off the field. That's when everything changed. Yep. You know, and everything changes in your life and you're like, it's more stressful to be off the field than it is to be on the field. When I'm on the field with my teammates, it's just white noise. Yeah. In the stand, but I'm locked in with my guys. Like, we are literally connecting every play. I'm sitting next to Julian or Gronk or James White or K K Faulk or you name and we are we're we're communicating. Even if we're not looking at one another, we're thinking the same thing. We're on the same frequency. And then all of a sudden, now we go on the field and we're on the same frequency on the field. And everyone's being ignored. And you're just so present in the moment. I mean, I love this about sports and I'm sure I always say like when we're out there on the field, you're not thinking about lunch. You're not thinking about Monday. You're not thinking about it. You are thinking about what do I have to do? And that's why we loved it so much. You could be who you were in your truest sense with the thing you're probably most confident in in your whole life and no one can bother you.

"And you know what? All the stakes are on the line, too. And like I said, you liked hard. I liked hard. So the harder that got, the more I liked it."

You know, Marcus Freeman said that. He said, "Choose hard." Yeah. Choose hard. Yeah. Most don't. Most don't choose hard. We talked, we talked a little bit about that earlier. Like people don't choose hard. They go, "I'm at my limit of what I can do." My son asked me today. He goes, "Yeah, what do you hear in the in the Because I told him I was going to talk to you and he's like, "What do you hear when you're in there?" I was like, "Nothing." Yeah. Like he's like, "Do you hear your coaches?" I go, "In between rounds." I go, because when I'm in there, I have to rely on everything that I've done in preparation for this moment. Yeah. Nothing else actually matters because I've got to do the job.

"You're known as one of the most unflapable guys. And it shows, right? In your prep, in your process, in your broadcasting. Have you ever had that like a little bit of a conflict of that confidence? Like, man, I'm in the back. I felt like I had it every time. I'm in the back and I lay down and I start thinking to myself, I went to college. I did everything right. How many times should I have gone right and I went left to end up here every time? Right."

You going to all those Super Bowls, winning all those games. Ton of expectation comes with that. Yeah. Did you ever have like a little bit of that crisis of that confidence where you're like I know it's kind of sick and I this is kind of probably a a thing that I was blessed with again like nothing that I did I would say like nurture it but like I was born like pretty naive about certain things. I was naive like man yeah of course I'm going to I was like a junior in high school right and I was in a good quarter. I was okay, you know, I was like blossoming, but I certainly wasn't like a sure thing. And my um my my college counselor would come up and he was like, "Hey, like how are we doing on the on the the college applications?" And I was like, "I'm going to get a scholarship." And he's like, "Yeah, I know, but like really like what are you going to do?" And I'm like, "No, no, I'm like I'm going to get recruited. I'm going to go play football like somewhere." And he's like, "Where do you like what five should we choose?" And I in my mind I was just like, "Huh? Why is he not getting this? Why is he not getting it?" And then when I got to cut to the pro got to uh Michigan in my going in my fourth year, going into my fifth year, I was like, "I'm playing [clears throat] in the NFL. I'm probably be like a second round pick." And of course, I was like a sixth round pick even after a good senior year. Yeah. I was on nobody's radar. Then when I got to the Patriots and I was the fourth quarterback on the depth chart, fourth. We that most teams only keep two on the roster. Now, in my first season in the year 2000, we had Drew Bledsoe, John Freeze, Michael Bishop, and me. I was a sixth round pick. It was two weeks before final cut and I called my agent and I was like, "Hey, I want to buy Tai Law's house." It was like 240 grand. I made 185 grand as a [laughter] in my first year. That was my my salary. Yeah. And he's like, "Tommy, you haven't even made the team yet." I'm like, "I'm making the team. What are you talking about?" And he's like, "Listen, let's just before you buy a house that you don't even you don't even don't even know if you're going to make the money. What are you doing?" I'm like, "Dubes, I'm going to make the team." Like, duh. Yeah. Yeah.

"So it was like there's like maybe a natural naive that I had that was a dumb confidence and it was a belief maybe an inner belief in myself because I did have that work ethic and I did maybe see that how how stable I was and how competitive I was and I never really lacked for confidence. I never a little bit in high school when I was learning to throw the ball a little bit better. There was one play, okay, and I played like 300 I may be wrong, 386 games, including playoffs. 386. I averaged, I don't know, call it 35 passes a game. I'm not a math major, but multiply 35, however many career pass attempts I had."

I remember like in my last season with the Bucks. I threw a ball and I always used to warm up on the sideline before I'd run out to play because I always like the feel. I just always wanted to feel, okay, my am I locked in? mechanics locked in. Throw, throw, throw, throw. Okay, good. I feel Let me run out with my teammates. Like been a TV timeout. And I remember letting like three or four balls go and I was like, "Fuck, it just does not feel the wrong. Throw it. Balls ducking." So I'm running out on the field and I'm like, "I don't know if I'm complete a pass. I don't know if I complete a pass." And he calls a pass play. So I call the play in the huddle, catch the ball, look at I think it was Mike Evans, and I fired a ball to Mike Evans. instead of him writing the numbers and I was like, "Okay, I'm good. I'm back. I'm back." You know, so that was like [laughter] the one time which is, you know, I guess kind of embarrassing for me that I didn't lack it. But I think part of it was I was naive Yeah. to realize how hard this was and then why isn't everyone else getting this?

"But now that I look around, and I'm sure you probably do the same, like when you're in the fight, in the competition, you're thinking that everyone is doing it the way you're doing it. So you're like, "Fuck, dude. This is going to be an even fight. This is going to be a battle, isn't it? But when you remove yourself like you have now and you look back at all these guys that are training, you're probably like, I train way harder than that. That way harder than that. So now you're like, now I see how I won so much."

Yep. That's like when I look at my career, I'm like, I can see why we were so successful because so many teams do so much stupid But when when we were great, I thought everyone was doing great things like we were doing. Yeah, they weren't they were doing stupid that doesn't work. We were just doing the right stuff and that's what gave us the advantage.

"You know, we all have fears. What's your greatest fear? And how do you handle that fear?"

My my number one fear in my my professional sporting life was letting my teammates down. Yeah. Number one only thing that mattered to me. Like when I was young and maybe a little more emotionally immature, when I had a bad game, like I would cry. I would it would be hurting cuz I feel like I literally messed this game up for everybody. When I got older, you know, and I grew up a little bit more, I didn't have that probably like feeling. There were moments that I took really hard and I probably used the disappointment. I turned it into anger and that anger helped me motivate me the next day. But the fear of letting my teammates down was absolutely number one. Yeah. Because the system that I was in, we worked really hard. Coaches stayed till 12:00 at night, 1 in the morning, preparing for practice for the next day, working really hard to get the game plan right so that, you know, we could I could have open receivers and I could be protected the right way. So, it's like if I come in and I'm not prepared and I don't study film and all these other guys are doing all the work and I got receivers that are busting their ass running seven miles sprinting on a game, running 20 miles a week through practice and game and I'm like can't complete a ball because I'm not working hard enough. That would just that would kill me. And that's ultimately what I expected out of my teammates too cuz they knew that man Tommy you don't need to be doing this. You're in your 21st or 22nd year. And I'm like, "No, no, I do need to do it because I need to prove to you that I'm still as good as I need to be in order for us to win what we need to win." Letting the team down would be the worst thing ever.

"And one of the most proud things I am, Tom, is at Oklahoma State, I got voted the team captain. At the Olympic team, I got voted the team captain by my peers. At American Kickboxing Academy, I got voted the team captain. I take a lot of pride in knowing that my peers thought I was doing the work and leading in a way that they say we want this guy to be the representation of what our team is. Same thing with you that hard work man and that leadership that's very important to you as a champion."

Yeah. And I think for like the the leadership part is you know it just there's a really high standard you're held to when you have like the C on your chest or the captain of the leader and we always put C's on our chest. They do that a lot now, but like it was the greatest when I was in high school, team captain two years when I went to Michigan, team captain my last year and then after my second year at the Patriots, every year after team captain. Yes. And like that was a that's a gratifying feeling cuz they know who you really are, you know? Bro, in the offseason there's no cameras watching. Yep. There's no you're in there, they're in there. It's you and them. You can't fake it. Hey, you know who I am. I'm not bullshitting you. What I say, I do. I expect the same from you. I lead by example. I lead verbally. I lead through my toughness. I lead through my will to win. That's how I I I lead by caring. I lead by believing in you, by encouraging you. You got to lead in all those different ways. And there's lots of forms of leadership. I always felt like the two things were, do I care about my teammates and do I care about what we're trying to accomplish? Yeah. And then the other one is, do I care about myself? And that is always number three in a team sport. Yep.

"You know, it's like we represent our families. We represent our friends, our hometown, our high school, where you came from. You all your roots you represent. And when you go out there on the field, you better believe they're all sitting around watching DC go fight for the world championship and you make them proud and you're like, I don't want to let them down. They're they've been on this journey with me forever. And I think when you when you embrace that like that area of growth for me just continues to go because I think and you get to do this too in your own way like you have a you're when you were in the cage half the people are rooting for you half are rooting against you now you probably get 100% of the people who love you and respect you for what you did fighting fighting because of what they saw the commitment you made. Now you get a microphone. Yep. And now you get to talk about all the great things what sports are all about. And that's how I view my role. Like on TV now I got 25 30 million people listening a week. What do I get to convey about what a leader really is about? What do I get to convey about what teamwork is all about? What good strategy and coaching what will and resilience really looks like? There's a lot of people watching. So, how can we make an impact in our society and our communities through sports? Like, we finally get a microphone and I don't have to be on one team where 31 other cities are rooting against you all the time. I was just trying to do my best. You were just trying to do your best. People didn't like me for doing and I'm I was fine with that. No problem. Now, in this area, I hope people can say, "Man, I just respect his work ethic. I respect the way that he went about his business. I love the way that he dealt with failure because we're all going to deal with failure in life and like now in this okay now I get a microphone and I get to be up there talking about when I see great things about other people and that's what I love to do."

That's awesome. Yeah. Being a quarterback has led you to a great career outside of football. Yeah. Right. And the future looks bright. I mean the Aces. Yeah. Amazing. The Raiders. Birmingham City. And a boat. You have a boat a boat race. Boat racing time champ. They just keep championships follow you. You guys won league one up in the championship now. Champ, hey, you're on the coach. I'm watching. I'm You're like calling. You're like, "Hey, he's like, "Oh, it's Tom Brady. I better answer the phone. They're always answering." But that quarterback, that leader in you have allowed for you to do that. And people pay attention. I believe that it's uh it's honorable, man. Hey, I love watching you do your thing. the way that you carry yourself, the champion that you are.

"You came up to me at a fight one time at a UFC to just say hi and introduce yourself and you said, 'I'm Tom Brady.' I'm like, 'No you're Tom Brady.' [laughter] I mean, everybody always says that whenever you say your name, but that's how you introduce yourself to to someone. And uh I know that you and I would share a lot of the same mindset and it's very evident that we do and that people should take from it. And it's always great when you come to the UFC."

Yeah, I love it. It's a great sport. I know. I've been and and Sean again, my cousin has been in and went worked at the UFC forever, but he was bringing me to fights on Indian reservations in California when I was a high school kid. Yeah. And like he would come over and teach me all these cool martial arts because he was into it his whole life. And like I fell in love with with fighting and with the box with UFC boxing and any of the combat sports cuz you guys are the toughest, you know, what you put your body through. And then I I can't imagine like the game within the game within a fight like you know that I know that what I'm trying to do so I got to defend that and like that psychological warfare you know doesn't happen as much in football cuz you you it's just one-on-one. There's no hiding. It's me. I don't have anything. You don't have anything. You got this. He's got that and you got those. And it's just like there's a tremendous amount of respect for people that you know do what you've done. and you're a champion and you get to be a champion in in in the octagon, but you're a champion outside of the octagon and and you're an amazing man and you got just hold yourself to the highest standard and we need more people like you in this world. You're the man, Tom Brady. Thank you for joining us. Appreciate it.

"Guys, this has been Champion Mindset. Thank you so much for tuning in and we'll catch you on the next one. Good job, guys. That was awesome, dude. Good job, partner. You're out. That was awesome. Awesome. [music]"