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Next time you're in an interaction with an attractive woman, you need to use this conversation hack to make yourself more interesting, to create more attraction, to avoid boring, logical conversation that just fizzles out. The next time you get into small talk, it's not even just with women.
Actually, you can use these concepts with any interaction to create more friendships, to build your network up, to, you know, attract women into your life, but really to just become more interesting as a conversationalist. And a lot of this is based around storytelling. And I want to give you guys some practical stuff that you could use in your interaction. All right?
I was a guy who sucked at conversation. I was never confident in conversation. I lacked charisma. I lacked charm. I lacked storytelling skills. I was boring. And I went from that guy to becoming an international men's dating coach. I made a huge transformation over a decade, in over a decade. And I've helped a thousand-plus guys since 2019. Right? And so what I'm sharing with you is not just field-tested by me with thousands of women I've interacted with, but also my clients as well.
So if you want to know more about my backstory, my whole transformation, the clients I've helped, or what my coaching program looks like, there's an in-depth video I put together. The link is in the description. I go over all of that and a lot more. It's a value-packed video. You need to watch that training. Link is down below.
Let's talk about how to become more interesting in your conversation. Now, in my opinion, every single man gets into the same interactions in conversation. And we as men, we have default questions and answers that we use in conversation. Like, if you were in an interaction with an attractive woman and you run out of things to say, you are going to go to your default canned bag of statements or questions or stories and you're going to use that, right?
Now, the problem is that most people don't take the time to well-rehearse that bag of goods. And that's a [ __ ] shame because 80% of conversation, especially with a first-time stranger, it is very similar, right? And you are probably already doing this. You don't realize you're doing it. And so the whole catalyst for this video is just take a couple hours one day and put together three good stories. You don't need to lie about these stories, but you need three stories that you can share with a stranger. It is that [ __ ] simple, man. I promise you, you're going to use this. And they don't need to be crazy stories. You just need to find a way to articulate them in an interesting way.
So, what I would recommend is you use the questions: What do you do for work? What do you do for fun? What ethnicity are you? How old are you? Where are you from? Where do you live? Anything like that. Or if there's some big event that you have coming up in the upcoming quarter or year that you're excited about, that could that could also work, too. But the thing is is that these questions always come up and you can even ask these questions. So, why not have some flavorful answers to these questions, right? I'll give you a bunch of examples and you could start to create variety in your own answers based off what I'm using. And I'll also show you towards the end of this video how to even spice it up even better than that.
So look, let's let's go over what do you do for work. With any of these questions, what you do not want to do is just give the answer before you even just give an answer. No matter what the answer, make the make the girl guess. Say, "What, what do you think? How old are you? What do you think? What do you do for work? What, what do you think I do? Where you from? What's your ethnicity? What, what do you think? What do you guess? Give you one guess." If nothing else, just just spice it up a little bit and create a little bit of intrigue and and make it fun and playful. They're going to guess. Right now, from there, you could just give the answer.
But the other thing you could do is you go into a little bit of a story. Because you're watching this video and you're like, "Yeah, wow, Kyle's actually right. He's helped so many people and I'm even thinking about working with him. I might have to apply to work with him down below this video. But, you know, let me just listen to this one video concept and write a flavorful answer for this, right?"
So, let's go through what do you do for work? Well, I could just say I'm a men's dating coach. I could say I teach cold approach pickup. I could say I practice, I'm an expert in male-to-female dynamics, right? I could say, uh, I'm a pickup artist. I could say I'm a YouTuber. I could say I'm, I'm an IG influencer, right? I could actually technically label myself as any of these things, but to just say the answer would not be the most interesting answer, right? That's that's the reality.
If you can present yourself or the statements that you say in an interaction in an interesting way, when you do that multiple times, you become interesting. So, let's think about this. Well, this is what I've come up with for myself that I notice is pretty powerful, especially if I'm interacting with a woman. She says, "Oh, what do you do for work?" I would quickly with a little bit of a smirk, look look her up up slightly up and down as I'm saying this and I would say, "A big part of what I teach is actually a lot around body language and social dynamics, right?" That's going to create so much intrigue because literally it's going to make her question instantly the way her body's positioned and the way that she's communicating, right?
So, I'm very and I'm aware of that, especially if we're in an interaction and she's already somewhat attractive. There's a little bit of a flirty dynamic because she's not going to instantly say that off the open. That's going to come up in conversation. If we're already going well and she says, "Oh, so what do you do for work?" I say, "Actually, a big part of what I teach is based around body language and social interaction, right?" I'll say that. I don't need to even answer the question yet. I just start to I start the answer with an intriguing statement.
Okay, so this is what you need to start thinking about for yourself. What do you do for work? What do you do for fun? Where do you live? What ethnicity are you? You start out with an intriguing statement. Kyle, what do I do if I'm just an an IT engineer? Okay. I don't know if you have some interesting backstory of other things you explored beforehand or something you always wanted to do growing up and maybe you explored that a little bit and then you ended up not doing that thing and now you're in this field. You have a story that tells that. If you have the worst job ever and there's nothing to say about any of it, then you pick a different question to make a story about. Okay? It doesn't need to be what you do for work. I just think what you do for work will always come up in interactions. So, you might as well have a story around it, right? And that is just the opening statement. I don't need to answer the question just yet. I could I could say that opening statement and we could have a back and forth dialogue just on that.
I could literally say, you know, it's funny. A big part of what I teach actually is based around body language and social interaction. I look, I don't I don't want you to get you in your head. You know, the moment I tell people that, one of two things happens. Either number one, they instantly like adjust themselves because now they're thinking I'm like analyzing them. Or what they might do actually is they'll kind of get more intrigued and like some women in particular will kind of like look me up and down like as if I'm like gonna critique them or like they want to like assess my body language, right? I'm not saying you're going to do either of those, but that it's funny because that that I notice that that typically happens. But what I will say about your body language, you know, when I first met you, what I noticed was and I'll say something, right? That is a great way to start to transition into what I actually do, right?
And if I wanted to, I could even I could play around with that answer even more. If I if I really wanted to, as I actually still haven't even really explained what I do, we could get into a back and forth about what I noticed about her body language. I might point out something. I might point out that her voice goes really high pitched when I said something or that her eyes really lit up when I gave a certain answer or when she answered something about me or the way that she has a micro expression on her face when she smiles or she says something or how she was acting when I initially came up versus now how her body language or her tonality has changed. So I could I could go into any one of those things, right? And I still haven't even actually revealed what I technically do. We could go into back and forth with that and from there she might just say, "Oh, so so it's just body language? Like, how do you teach that?" And I then I would go into, "Well, I actually primarily coach men, right? And it's not just body language, it's it's more around social competence and dating, right?" So I could have just said I teach men dating. Why would I say that? Why not have what like why not? Because I know that this conversation, but I know that this question is going to come up and I know that this is an opportunity to just make a fun, interesting interaction, to make it about the girl, to make a little bit of a joke, to maybe put her in her head a little bit, to demonstrate more value in the conversation. So, why not do those things, right?
And I don't I could milk this even longer. If we're further into the interaction, she might say, "So, oh, so you coach so you coach body language? Like, how how does that work?" I'd say, "Well, it's funny because growing up, I was actually antisocial, believe it or not. Like I I know this might even sound hard to believe, but my dad passed away when I was 12 years old. And so growing up, I was just like a loser. I was antisocial. I smoked a lot of weed. I played a lot of video games. And my first girlfriend when I was like 24, 25 left me for another man. And so I was really just looking up online how to get your ex back. And I started stumbling across all these different videos on social dynamics, male-female interaction. And that led into body language and social competence and dating. And I, you know, growing up as somebody that was shy, I was like, 'Holy [ __ ] this is like really eye-opening for me.' Like I I was really drawn into those aspects. And so I just I I went all out and I was in a lot of pain. I was really just trying to get my ex back. Long story short, I didn't get her back. She's actually engaged now. But uh that was really the catalyst for me going into this thing. And five years later, I worked for a company that ultimately fired me around the stuff. And that's when I started my own channel. And about two years into that, the channel went viral. And uh two years after that, I actually quit my my full-time job. I went all in on my company. And recently, I moved to Miami because the company was at a place where I was financially free. I had about six employees working beneath me and they didn't want to be in New Jersey. It was freezing. And we, you know, the company's doing really well now. So, I rented out a two-story loft in uh in Brickell and we kind of turned it into an office, but I also kind of have the penthouse to myself in between. So, it's all been going really really well."
Are you kidding me? That is there's just so much in that. And I I I could have dragged it out even further. I have a I have a four-hour, five-hour audiobook talking about this story of how I grew up antisocial. My first girl left me for another man that got me into male-female dynamics that then I hired coaches. Then I transformed my own life. Like there's a really long video on it. The the in-depth training that's in the description. I go over that backstory, but it's also more about how I the practical steps of how I change and my clients and my coaching program. So you don't need to watch the five-hour thing, but again guys, shameless plug. Watch that video down below. It's [ __ ] powerful, man.
Um, but that's just one answer. Now, look, Kyle, what do I do if I'm if I'm a dentist? What What if I don't have a cool backstory like that? What What if I'm a dentist? "What do you do?" And the girl says, "Well, what do you do for work?" You say, "You know, it's actually interesting because I was talking to you earlier and you smiled. And I noticed about your smile, the the shape of your smile, you actually have what's called a a U-shaped smile, right?" And you can start to educate the woman on this, right? You can tell. So actually some people that some of my patients that come in that I work on, I notice that they have different shapes to their smile, right? And there's actually a lot of women that are kind of insecure about their smile. They actually come to guys like me. I do a lot of cosmetic um work too on on in terms of like smile and surgery and stuff. And so yeah, it was interesting because I was looking at your smile and maybe that was part of what drew me into you initially was actually like I think you have a really attractive smile. But um one thing I did notice, right? And look, I am into a whole [ __ ] story. Or I could have just said I'm a dentist. Yeah, I'm a dentist. [ __ ] boring, man.
If you're a lawyer, don't just say I'm a lawyer. You say, "You know what's interesting is cuz I was in school and I honestly I spent the first two years of college not knowing what I was even going to declare my major. And I remember my mom actually pressuring me into telling me, 'Well, you need to declare a major at some point.' Like I was undeclared. And I knew what I didn't want to do, but I was like [ __ ] clueless. And you ever watch the show Suits? Yeah. So like I was really big into that show. And the main character Harvey, he was just so confident and I don't know. I like I really admired his ability to challenge authority in such a confident way and that really resonated with me and I was like, 'You know what? Like I really want to explore going to law school and seeing what that was like, right?'" Okay, so look, I'm [ __ ] making this up. Honestly, I've never been to law school. But the point is is you need to have a good story, man. You need to have a story of what your upbringing was like. You need to have a story of what you do for work. You always wanted to do. What you do for fun. What you're passionate about. What ethnicity? If I ask the girl, "What ethnicity?" She says, "Oh, what about you?" So my my grandparents on my mom's side, they they actually came to USA on a boat from Italy. Literally this is in like 1950 or something. They came on a boat from Italy to Queens, New York. And my grandma, she was still to this day probably the best cook I've ever met in my life. One regret honestly was not learning more of her recipes when I was younger. Like she passed away when I was maybe like 16. I was just getting into cooking. My dad was was big into cooking, but he passed away too. Actually, this tattoo I got was for for him. He passed away in uh 11/3/2002. Or I was only 12 at the time. But um I was I don't know if the audio caught that, but I was saying yeah, he was only 12 at the time. He passed away in '02. And yeah, so like that was my mom's side. And then my dad's side was also half Italian, but he was also Armenian cuz I have a my last name is actually Armenian. Frunian is is my last name. All all little side story for you. All Armenians have these like crazy last names like like Dan Bilzerian or like, you know, girls, you probably know Kim Kardashian. I would just assume, right?
Look, this is another story. Okay, these are cool, fun, interesting stories that I can use in every interaction. I can use these stories with men. I can use these stories with women. And they are fun. I can tease. I can demonstrate value. But most importantly, I'm talking I'm talking about myself in a really calm, cool, confident, fun way instead of just saying, "I'm Italian. What are you?" "I'm a nurse. What are you?" "I'm 28. What are you?" "I live in New Jersey. What about you?" That's where you're going wrong in your conversation. Do you guys get it? It's It's literally that simple.
These are the questions on the test, man. What do you do for work? What do you do for fun? What do you got going on this weekend? Where where you what's your ethnicity? What's your horoscope sign? That's it, man. Go make answers for these things and then go ask people these questions. And then the moment they answer it, they're going to say, "What about you?" Or even if they don't say, "What about you?" You just segue into it. If you say, "Oh, what do you do for work?" And the guy's like, "Oh, I'm in IT." I would say, "Oh, IT. That's awesome." He's going to say, "Yeah, it's not a bad job." I would say, "It's interesting. I don't know if you could even believe what I do, but check this." Boom. Go into my story. Just like that, man. Right?
And if you have stories for all one for all of these things, man, guys, like you understand that that is com that is small talk right there. Mic drop. Less less lecture over. You don't need to watch another video on YouTube. If you just go [ __ ] get this really dialed in. Just go get this dialed in, bro. And the the way you interact with people will change.
Well, Kyle, what if I don't want to write this the tell everybody the same story? Look, you start with one story and then you build a second story and then you build a third story and by the time you have 10 stories, you're an interesting [ __ ] guy. Most people have one cool story. If some guy tells you three stories that are interesting, he's an interesting dude. Now, you need three stories and you're a cool dude. That's that's really all it takes. One story, you're already the [ __ ] guy. Two stories, you're really cool. Three stories, they'll walk away, they haven't experienced that, man. Straight up.
Now, if you want to get really good, you even start to embed DHV spikes into the stories, demonstrations of high value. Any type, there's a whole another video I have put together, maybe we'll link it to this one, where I talk about what triggers attraction, right? It's pre-selection, it's leader of men, it's protector of loved ones, it's successful risk-taker, and it's healthy emotions. Anytime you can embed one of those triggers into these stories, it creates more attraction to women. Okay? It's a really, really powerful concept.
I I can't stress the importance of this video. This video is life-changing. You could take these principles. I could just take these principles and charge $1,000 for this course. I swear to God, it's worth that much. I could just sit down with you and make the five stories with you and practice the delivery and show you where to embed the DHV spikes and then we roleplay the conversation and then you just go out and do that and your [ __ ] life is changed. Bro, do you get that? So powerful. So powerful. Stop watching YouTube videos, okay?
If if you want to make a transformation, if you want to work with me directly or if you want to just know more about my story and the clients and my coaching program, the link is down below. Watch that in-depth video. There's so much if you found value in this, there's so much more value in that video. Go watch that down below. That's all for this one, guys. I'll see you in the next video. Be be aware. What are the stories? What are the questions you're asking in your small talk conversation? The answers to these questions will dictate how how interesting you are as an individual. See you in the next one. Let's go.