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Good morning, everybody. Happy Thursday. Have an amazing show. There it is, people. Live for the Pound Bro Show. Here's the last Bro Show of the week. It's okay. Uh, we're in morning here, just joking. We're we're waiting for Crystal back from vacation. Uh, we're all excited to actually, you know, we're excited to get back to some uh, you know, people are really clamoring for what you and Emily, they just want the unvarnished, they want the unvarnished, like just raw Maga, just like that's you would not celebration. We could, in fact, if Emily and I did a show together, we would probably be dunking even more vifer on Maga. Uh, so Magas would only uh get more upset at us, but that's okay. Uh, that's what we do here.
All right, let's go ahead and get started. We're going to be covering the fallout from Signal Gate. Uh, Ryan and Emily did a great job yesterday; they broke down some of the new messages. We're going to fully go through all of them: what they reveal, what the excuses are, what the administration has decided Ed to do. We'll then get to the Fallout section in terms of the Politics, as this continues to be actually one of the biggest Trump scandals that has yet penetrated. Current data tells us it is the number one story currently of the Trump Administration that has gone viral to everybody, kind of astounding some of the political Fallout here in Washington. Tulsi Gabbard and John Ratcliffe in front of Congress, they are getting pressed about it. We're going to talk about the Democrats; they were able to flip a Trump District in the Pennsylvania senate seat. Super interesting, it's a State Senate obviously, but does give us some indication this was what Trump plus 15, Trump plus 16 District. Democrat there was very narrowly able to win; could be a sign of what's to come in the midterms.
We're going to talk about some interesting developments in Gaza. There's been some protests on the ground in Gaza; some people are saying it's against Hamas, some against perhaps like the Israeli military campaign. Ryan's going to break that down for us. There have been continuing arrests of some Pro-Palestinian foreign students here in uh the United States. Ryan's going to give an update on that. And then finally, Ryan and I will update NPR and PBS. Uh, we're going to talk about the defund campaign currently happening in Congress and some hilarious footage, just no matter what side you fall on, uh, that is coming out of Congress. But with that, let's go ahead and get to the Signal text, shall we?
So, after the Trump Administration spent uh like better part of a day saying there was no no classified information there at all, nothing, don't worry about it, uh everything was totally above board, Jeffrey Goldberg over at the Atlantic, against his better nature, Ryan, because he was trying to protect all of us from all this classified information, he just said, you know, screw it, I'm going to release all of them. And you know what, he should have done that from the very beginning, but okay, here we are, and now we can all see it for ourselves and judge. That's called journalism, isn't it? Isn't it? Uh, so okay, let's go ahead and put them all up there on the screen. Let's start with the first one. Now, what do you notice in that very first text message, Ryan? What's the very first thing that it says? "MAR added, Michael added you to the group." The second thing is, "what disappearing message time set to one week." Okay, my my message group with my buddies, it's got a one-day disappearing time, right? So why is why is it set to one week? That's crazy. You know why do they have better, you know, like why do we have better opsc, quote-unquote, than this? It's totally ridiculous.
Now, let's continue, shall we? We cut out and we're only including here some of the new uh text messages for people to see, but what's fascinating to me is the internal debate here. Joe Kent, some of you guys might know Joe Kent, he was ran for Congress twice in the state of Washington, very very realist guy, and here he is is one of Tulsi Gabbard's deputies actually arguing in the chat, saying, "there's nothing time-sensitive that is driving this timeline for the strike against Houthis. We will have the exact same options in a month." Quote, "the Israelis will likely take strikes and therefore ask us for more support to replenish whatever they use against the Houthis, but that a minor factor. I will send you the unclass data on pulled on shipping." He's talking there specifically about the amount of shipping there. John Ratcliffe, the CIA director, says, "we are mobilizing assets to support now, but a delay would not negatively impact us. An additional time would be used to identify better starting points for coverage on Houi leadership." So, by the way, can we pause on this real quickly because there is a there are a group of people in this country who still care about the Constitution and the War Powers Act and have insisted that this was an illegal strike and that you need Congressional authorization for it. This proves that it was the case because the only way you can get around Congress is if you say this was an emergency. That's right, because obviously commander-in-chief in an emergency situation doesn't have to let American Service members die just because of paperwork, right? They are admitting in writing that there is no rush. They're literally saying, "no rush, we we can do this later." If if you can do it later, therefore constitutionally speaking, you're required to get Congressional authorization unless it's the 2001 authorization of military force, which which I don't even think they tried to use that because that's against Al-Qaeda and the Houthis fight Al-Qaeda. Yeah, but Ryan, they've been updating that thing for a long time, right? It never it never matters. It's Point Constitution, as we will talk about later in this show. Yeah, who who even cares about that anymore?
But let's continue here with the text messages, shall we? Because this again we're revealing here a lot both about how this this entire thing was not only not time-sensitive, it didn't work because it didn't actually accomplish its goal of stopping this. I also think just had to put this in here about uh Mr. Waltz, Mike Waltz here. You could see here here arguing with JD Vance who is saying, "hey, why are we doing this? Only 3%." He's like, "well, actually the trade figures we are 15% of global and 30% of container. It's difficult to break that down to us specific because of the container going through the Red Sea or not, whether we pull the plug or not today. European navies do not have the capability to defend the types of sophisticated anti-ship cruise missiles and drones the Houthis are now using." Let's pause on that, shall we? So these European nations uh who let's say Germany uh the UK uh France, we're talking about you know what three of the top G7 economies in the world uh actually all of them have much more powerful navies than almost any other country in the world except for like the US and China. And so if our national security adviser is saying they don't even have the capability to deal with uh a group that has been bombed into smithereens for the last 10 years and is using like secondhand Iranian missiles that they've gotten you know via transfer, that's a bit of a problem, shall we? Can we all just sit there and ruminate on that a little bit? Luckily luckily for Europe right uh and the UK and France and the rest of them uh Waltz is either a liar or a everything you read There Is A Lie. Yes, like they do have the capacity to shoot missiles at the Houthis, or it's like or Mike Waltz is saying that we need to do it now. The only reason that we he's lying so that we can be the ones to do that. That's right. And why would we be the ones to do it? Either a to feel big and tough and to stick it to Iran, because that definitely worked under Biden, uh or it's to defend Israel. And as they admit also in the chat, the fall apart of the ceasefire has direct impacts here, as Joe Kent himself admitted.
Now let's continue here with the text messages and let's see what else that we can, shall we? So this is the actual update from Pete Hegseth, and I would say this is the one where you basically got him dead to rights. And I let's keep this up here because um this by the way, America, this is what your government is telling you is not classified. This is before the Strike Team update. Time now 11:44 Eastern Standard Time. Weather is favorable, just confirmed. We Are a Go. 12:15 F-18s launch. 1345 trigger-based FF F-18 strike window starts. Target terrorist is at his known location, so should be on time. Also strike drones launch MQ9 1410. More F-18s launch second strike package 1415. Strike drones On Target. This is when the first bombs will definitely drop pending earlier trigger-based targets. 1536 F-18 second strike targets also first C-base Tomahawks launched. So the Trump administration's argument is that because he said that the target terrorist is at his location that there was no classified information that was included there. Can we all just stop, you know, for a second? Like this level of retardation is honestly just too much for me. Like you're really going to argue that the known like use of the Munitions and the exact time of an attack was not classified at the time that you sent it? Fine, then tweet it out. If if if you believe that, if you believe that then allow any American Service member privy to that information information to post it ahead of the attack. Okay, go ahead. Now, as you and I know, Ryan, the stupidest in the world is classified by the United, we have a massive over-classification problem, as you all saw with the JFK files. So there is genuinely no Universe on planet Earth where this was not classified at the uh there was no like not classified at the time that they sent it. And then second, what you also can just see see here in the sheer stupidity of the way that they are acting. I know I'm calling for this early. Put A2 up there on the screen because this was the you know quote-unquote the Smoking Gun as to whether it was classified. Look here at what Our Idiot National Security adviser's justification is: "no locations, no sources and methods, no war plans, foreign Partners had already been notified. Bottom line, President Trump is protecting America and our interests." So their response is that actually Pete Hegseth shared attack plans and not war plans, thus there was no classified information here whatsoever. It is an insult to all good people's intelligence to argue this. It's it's just preposterous. We never got Congressional authorization for war, therefore it's not a war, therefore there can't be war plans. What are we doing here? I just I really cannot stomach this level of stupidity. I cannot.
Now let's continue with the text messages and let's go because there's also more that we reveal here also in terms of uh the way that we conduct War and what exactly is a good uh a good plan. Yeah, here here's my current my favorite from Pete Hegseth. "More to follow. We are currently clean on OPC, meaning that there have been no leaks to our Warriors. We are clean, clean as a whistle." All right, let's continue and uh this also shows us, you know, again how dumb a lot of the people who are in power actually are, namely Mr. Waltz, who added Jeffrey Goldberg. "VP building collapse had multiple positive ID." He would JD goes what he goes typing too fast. "The first Target, their top missile guy. We had positive ID of him walking into his girlfriend's building and now it's collapsed. Excellent and a good start there from John Ratcliffe." So presumptive there it's like, oh, so did we kill the girlfriend, right? And everyone else in the freaking apartment building? And yeah and yeah, right? What is JD Vance by the way doing dropping "excellent" on a war crime here? And who's the thumbs-up on the war crime? Like that's a war crime. It's just one of those where you know you've rarely get to see the internal you know way that we even acknowledge this type of stuff. You're never supposed to put this in writing, right? Whenever you just kill you know innocent standby or whatever. And it also I can't tell you guys how many times I've been in the Pentagon briefing room and we would ask things like, "so what steps did you take to..." They're like, "we take every possible step to minimize civilian casualties. We did this and this and this and this and this." And here you have the National Security... Yeah, "he walked into his girlfriend's building, we just collapsed it." We're like uh what what hold on. The guy the guy they're saying they killed was a senior official who works in the missile Department, right? They have other Engineers. Yes, like oh like this is not Osama Bin Laden. This is a guy who is the is like somebody's boss in a missile program. It's also when they kill him and his girlfriend and everyone else in the apartment, they will hire they'll put out a little wreck, "hey, we got a job opening now for a guy who can run a missile program." And Ryan, you covered drone strikes for years, so can you just tell us like not only the pattern that this strikes with the war machine going all the way back to the Obama Administration, but just for you to be able to nakedly see this, I mean what what is it? Because as you and I have done, we have heard these claims from the CIA and from the war the the Pentagon for almost more than a decade now. They're like, "listen, you have no idea the amount of steps you know that we take." And here's there not even a pretense of Rules of Engagement or any of that. They're like, "yeah, we just killed them. Okay, got it," right? Because they think nobody's watching. Mhm. They it's it's been it shows how normalized it is to to not care about civilian casualties. Like nobody on that thread knows anything about the number of civilians in that apartment building. Nobody said, "wait a minute, are we sure that the this apartment building in the middle of the night was not filled with sleeping people who had nothing to do with this? Do we I'm assuming you checked you guys checked this, right?" It just and also all the references to God and praying while you're actively killing innocent people. Well, they're saying, "oh, God bless our troops" and all that. May be one thing if I I pray for victory. What do you mean would pray for victory? Victory in what? This is not a this is not a battle. The problem, you're shooting Tomahawks off of a ship, right? We're invert like using bombs uh dropping them from very sophisticated airplanes and from guided missile destroyers and acting like we're invading Normandy on D-Day. And also Victory. Guess what? The Red Sea blockade is still block is going on. There actually was just strikes again yesterday, not that anybody's noticing and or doing anything uh in terms of the effect. Biden bombed Yemen for over a year, as you said. He even admitted, "yes, we the strikes will continue." Will it work? No. Okay, but continue. What are we doing here again? And you know there's so much to say here both about the stupidity of just Feelgood operations like this, which do nothing, you know, killed killed some Houthis guy, great uh strikes are continuing, yeah maybe, right? Not that they released here's some classified information by the way. We have positive ID that he's in the apartment building, right? Okay, there's a chance that there's some drone that has some imagery. He said MQ9 Reaper drone. There were MQ9 Reaper drones. It's not obvious though that the MQ9 Reaper drone was a source of the positive ID that he's in the apartment. Did they have yeah human intel a human Intel on the Block that that said, "hey, he's in there." Mhm. Does that mean they have a mole like or is it a civilian who's on the Block who they're working with? Now Iran is going to sweep up all the the comms from that block and try to snuff out who the if there was a mole, a human source. So did Hegseth give up a human source there or Waltz give up a source like and maybe it was a drone. I don't know, but that's why to say that this stuff is unclassified and you can just post it on Twitter is absurd. Let's call their Bluff. Fine, do it before every attack. Just post. Fine, I'm fine with that. Actually be useful because we're like, okay, here's here's what we're going to use, here's exactly what we're going to use, here are the targets, and then you and I can say, so did it work? Did it hit the... I would actually like to know that. It'd be nice, wouldn't it?
All right, let's try that. So I already showed you guys Mike Waltz's dumb justification, but oh man, the White House line on this I I just again it is it insults the intelligence of the viewer and of the entire country. Let's take a lesson. What is it about about what Pete Hegseth wrote that makes you say this is not classified? Well, it's not just me saying that, Peter, it's the Secretary of Defense himself who is saying this as well, and he put out a very strong statement earlier today uh listing all of the things that were not included in that message that he sent to the group. And again, this message, there was no classified information transmitted, there were no war plans discussed. Um, why did the Atlantic downgrade their allegation about war plans to attack plans? They're now playing word games because they know this was was sensationalist spin from a reporter who is well known for doing this. We have said all along, no war plans were discussed, no classified material was sent. You have the Secretary of Defense saying that, you have the director of the CIA, the Director of National Intelligence, the FBI director, all testifying to that under oath, um and they should be trusted with that. Nobody's texting war plans. I noticed this morning out came something that doesn't look like war plans, and as a matter of fact, they even changed the title to attack plans because they know it's not war plans. Attack plans, not war plans. They are insulting all of our intelligence as if this is an excuse. You know what a better excuse would be or a better response? Yeah, our national security advisor, he's an idiot and he added this person and he the we're never supposed to be there, and he's being fired yesterday, so we've dealt with the problem. We're moving on. They instead they're attacking uh Jeffrey Goldberg and the Atlantic as if uh it's his fault that he what did what did say that his number got sucked in? Sucked you in? As much as I despise drug dealers, I I ask you all the next time you drug dealers out there get caught to tell the police, "oh, the number got sucked in." Yeah, I don't I I don't know. Yeah, you ever been in a situation where you have a contact and somebody else's number? Try telling that to Police. Use that as a defense in a court of law. I I got I I I asked you to do that for my own edification and amusement to see how it will work out. Every every guy in the country country who's been caught texting his phone or her number got sucked into my phone. No no guy would even like B try that. Nobody no one is even dumb enough to try that. Yeah, you got to have some other like oh my friend sent it to me or whatever. I you know it was initials. I didn't know what it was. Fellas trying to text Jeffrey Goldberg. Fellas try that one next time. Yeah, next time you guys get caught. It's just too much. Uh, the best what we've seen yet, the best actual response here is from Secretary Rubio. He's like, "look, someone made a big mistake." Yeah, yeah. He's like, "that's it, that that's all we can say." Let's take a listen.
A4. First question. Let me just say on the Signal thing, this thing was set up for purposes of coordinating how everyone was going to call, you know, when these things happen. I need to call foreign ministers, especially of our close allies. We need to notify members of Congress. Other members of the team have different uh people they need to notify as well, and that was the purpose of why it was set up. Obviously, someone made a mistake. Someone made a big mistake and added a journalist. Nothing against journalists, but you ain't supposed to be on that thing, so they got on there and this happened. Uh, I've been you know, as I can speak to myself for my presence on it. I think my my role I on it was just speaking for my role. I I contributed to it twice. I identified my point of contact, which is my chief of staff, and then later on, I think three hours after the White House's official um announcements have been made, I congratulated the members of the team. Um, I've been assured by the P and everyone involved that none of the information that was on there, though not intended to be divulged, obviously that was a mistake and that shouldn't have happened, and the White House is looking at it, but that none of the information on there at any point threatened the operation of the lives of our servicemen. Somebody made a mistake. Just say it. That's how you know why you can't say it because you have to fire the idiot who made a mistake. That's why I'm like, you know, watching Hegseth have to contort himself into a knot. This is it's not even his fault. This is Trump. Trump is standing by and just allowing this idiot to stay in his job. I I also want to say this. I think Trump is losing his edge. In the old days, anyone who flailed like that on television, you're gone. First term, that that's the crime committed was did you not see that TV interview? It was humiliating. You know, anybody you don't you don't even need like a 60 IQ to watch that and be like, yeah, this guy's this is obviously lying. And Trump is is not only allowing this, he's bowning himself by allowing idiot to him who like oh it got sucked into my phone. And now the White House said yesterday that Elon Musk's technical experts are what technical experts do you need on the case? Yeah, we need a a forensic chain to look at how this happened. The guy had the phone number in his phone and then he added the wrong number. It's not hard. Done. It's it's done. Yeah, case closed. We we need an efficient review of this, not uh not big balls spending with... I just can't get you know for me, Ryan, you know I'm watching these National Park Rangers get fired and uh you know all these other folks get fired. Maybe some need to go, maybe some don't, whatever, but this guy gets the second chance, forgiveness, you know, 14 14 years of impeccable performance reviews and and you're fired because Big Balls didn't understand what your job was and it and it's and it's had something the word diversity yeah was in it um and so but Mike to keep his job. This guy is fun. Again, it insults the intelligence of all good people.
Next part. Let's let's go to this one because this is great. So as you all recall, Mike Waltz uh said, "I have never met and never communicated with Jeffrey Goldberg before." Here's a photo uh of him and Jeffrey Goldberg. All right, they're standing right next to each other. Tell the world where they are. CU. That's even worse. Yeah, it's actually even better. They're at the French Embassy uh where they are attending what was it some French doc with a French filmmaker? Yeah, that's right. Some Q&A for a French filmmaker. He should be in Guantanamo, I'll tell you. It is a nice Embassy if we're all being honest. It's a it's a yeah um you know that is the heart of swamp Washington uh the the it's just it's too much. Again, where the guy says, "I've never met and never communicated except at the French Embassy." And here's a photo of me standing right next to him. What you think they didn't have a a little conversation uh right before that? Maybe that's when his number got sucked into his phone, right? It's just again, you know I could say it over and over. And then finally, A6. Let's put it up here. Uh, Mike Waltz apparently for some reason his Venmo list is public. I was talking to the team this morning. I was like, "bro, am I the only guy who's at his private Venmo list?" And I was like 20 years old. Like what are we doing here? Is Michael Waltz still walking around with this phone that is known to just suck up random numbers? This is a danger. Would you want to get rid of this phone? This is very yeah a bad...
So let's presume here that the CNN journalist and the MSNBC producer and all these other journalists which were publicly available on Mike Waltz's Venmo also got sucked into his phone uh in terms of how this all H like go shakes out at this point. Trump has now allowed the humiliation of this news cycle to continue. He has given Congressional Democrats the greatest blessing to drag out some dumb you know you know long hearing process because now if they don't fire Waltz, so they can try and compel of course it's not going to happen. He refused executive privilege. The Secretary of Defense has to testify legally before Congress I think what is it four or five times a year or something like that and so they're obviously going to press him. If the Democrats do take the midterms, what's the easiest you know Lewinsky-style hearing type of thing to initiate? Classified hearings, referring things to the... You just bought yourself two years of Scandal for no reason. And you know people might think this is dumb, but I mentioned this in the intro. Axios did some uh data analysis. This is the most viral story of the Trump Administration. It was this is everywhere. Andy Cohen joked about it on Watch What Happens Live last night. There you go. So Bravo, bra. That's what I mean. But okay, even take that out of it. Go on TikTok or Instagram or any of these. Everyone is making jokes about the group chat. Like this has entered the zeitgeist. Andy Cohen joked about it just talking about Signal as as in everyone understands this like didn't need any context. Bingo. It's just everyone understands. The whole country if you're if you're even like 10 EV you know experiencing pop culture or the news or TV, this show, YouTube, whatever, you've heard about this. This is a real because everyone's made that mistake. They have, but nobody has defended it, and nobody has defended it as stupidly as Mike Waltz. And so you know I just keep coming back to this. You have a guy who literally committed the greatest Washington sin that you can make. Number one is jeopardized classified information, then the second greatest Washington staffer sin is you become the you embarrass your boss. And now his boss who is firing tens of thousands of people based on efficiency claims and others and excellence in government and we're getting rid of DEI is keeping this idiot around. It's just shocking. And the the problem that Democrats seem to have here is that they seem hellbent on trying to get rid of Pete Hegseth. I noticed that I was going to ask you about that because I don't get it. They got him dead to rights. He's an idiot. It's done, closed case. Uh, he I mean look is a pro-war like Washington creature. I was going to say I think that makes him more Democrats are more comfortable with pro-war Washington creatures who who have the support of AIPAC, right, um and the pro-Ukraine war types. Like that's Democrats are just more comfortable with that kind of guy than with Hegseth, who is more skeptical of I mean the fre the his Signal chats notwithstanding like he's not exactly a dove. He's not a dove. He's not he's got a bad neocon pass, but he's more Maga, let's put it that whereas Waltz like you said, I mean this guy was arguing for war with Russia like yesterday before he were for Trump. He's like actively trying to undermine, right? He's like you can see it in the group chat. This guy's like, "no, actually, we need to bomb Yemen. Here's why because there's some chat GB analysis 30 30% of the containers are are who knows where those goods are going and Europe you know they may manufacture some of it and then other other component parts here so really we should go to war with the entire world." That's right. It's like, okay, got it. Uh, again, it's just the stupidest possible move.
And watching the White House, and even JD was attacking Goldberg. Democrats get W. Go for it. What are we doing? We're attacking Jeffrey Goldberg. You, I, I tweeted something to that effect. You know what, making us defend Jeffrey Goldberg? This is Goldberg. I hate the man so much. Uh, and I said this, I go, Ajo exaggerating his headline. Now, a bigger problem than being the National Security adviser of the USA accidentally adding said journo to the chat and lying about it. As I said, you need a sub-60 IQ to go along with this. And the better headline was, uh, you know, "War planners exposed war crimes in real time." There you go. That's a good headline. You know what else is? And he kept that out. That they, they knocked that apart. I can't really understand here about Goldberg is, uh, he's clearly protecting Waltz to some degree. Because at the same time, if someone was like, if I leaked something, let's say, and someone was like, "I've never met Saga before," like, okay, here's a photo of the two of us together. And actually, here's whenever you added me, and uh, here's all of our past communication. Just, just, just so you all know, you know, in terms of uh, my original tip that they are in contact and that they had been in contact previously. But he burned him because he kind of had to, you know, because at this point you've added, it's a huge story. You have to, you have to burn the guy. Every, exactly everything Goldberg has done since then, yeah, affirms that original tip and that original idea because he has done everything he can. Yes, he burned Waltz, but he's done everything he can to kind of divert attention to Hegi and and to not burn Waltz, right? Shows he feels guilty about what he—
Internet sluts to go and find a photo of Goldberg. And if, if the guy says, "I've never met you before," be like, "That's just literally not true. I met you this in histic. I met him." Yeah, he even said I met him before in the article. So, for all to come out say he didn't, it's like just aggressively stupid, a liar. Yeah, it's just like the public record. And uh, really what they are betting on, and this might be a good bet, is that Maga and Trump are so stupid that they will allow their intelligence to be insulted to own the libs and the Atlantic. The only people you're owning are yourselves. Hey, if you like that video, hit the like button or leave a comment below. It really helps get the show to more people. And if you'd like to get the full show ad-free and in your inbox every morning, you can sign up at breakingpoints.com. Help support the future of Independent Media at breakingpoints.com.