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[Music] Good evening and welcome to Pastoring God's Sheep on the Marketplace Network. Because you have been asking me, I've gotten my guest speaker to come in. Bishop, thank you for joining me.
>> God bless you, Apostle. How are you doing? Pleasure to be here. I count it a joy and a blessing to be here. It's been a while. I'm so happy you recovered, man. You're really on a run. You're just on a tear. I just thank you, Holy Spirit, that what you're doing and what he's doing, what the Holy Spirit is doing in your life, the trajectory that we're all on here on the network. God bless you, everybody tuning in today. Uh, the joy of the Lord is our strength, and we truly know that that's true because we see just a short couple of months ago, as you saw on the previous episode, uh, Apostle Timothy had a heart attack. He is being fully restored in the Lord. I just love the last couple of episodes you and Doctor have done. You guys have been breaking down the miraculous, the testimony, the seven points, all of that. I'm just so honored to be here, sir, in your sense.
>> I'm glad you're glad you're here. And I know the audience is happy because they've been asking, "When am I going to bring you back on?"
>> Well, feels good to be loved. Amen. Thank you.
>> Yes. Oh. Uh, we've been talking about miracles the last couple of episodes, and there were miracles. The biggest one that's taken place in my life, of course, lately has been my recovery from the heart attack.
>> Amen.
>> And how quickly it took place. You, I know, have been praying. I know that you've li you, of course, edit the programs and stuff that I do.
>> What is your advice as to miracles and healing for the people?
>> Well, great question. I first want to declare something over you. I just want to speak a word of wisdom and knowledge to you that the best is yet to come. Don't look to the left. Don't look to the right. You've got people there tuning in. And even if they're not tuned in the way we want them to be tuned in, they know where they need to go and when they need to go, listening to the words that you bring forth because you are a shepherd. You're an undershepherd. You are you undergird the body of Christ with the school of heart knocks. You've been through so much in your life. The first book, Doctor mentioned about the second book. He set it up beautifully about the pledge in the second book. For those of you who want to pledge, you want to pledge. You want to pledge to the Lord that all of the Holy Spirit inside of him, you know, we have the totality of God inside of us. We didn't they Jeremiah, Isaiah, they didn't have that opportunity. They, it came upon them, and they were sort of shocked and amazed that the Lord would even use them that way. They, but there was, you know, how many of you know that God uses human channels to speak? Well, today I have news for you. He's using the media channels to speak. He's using this show, Pastoring God. You come on, somebody. You know, the Lord has resurrected him unto new life. I think of Hezekiah, 15 years, and the Lord has resurrected him and given him a rebirth of his ministry. I like to say we're borrowing him. He's on loan. The studio's lending him out. The Lord's allowing it. He's on not a contract, but he's, you know, on loan, as they say, and it's a borrow time because your plan and the purpose that God has for your life is is just about to get started. This is the third. This is your second win. So, I love what you said about the miraculous. I believe absolutely in the miraculous. You know, one of the things that I really appreciate about my mentor, um, is that, uh, he really instilled in me about healing and deliverance. So, healing and deliverance is a real ministry. That's what this is, Pastoring God's Sheep. This is the pastor who's shepherding you into the love of God, into the cradle or the arm of God so that God can come and the balm of Gilead or whatever that is you need. This is where that ministry and that flow is stewarded. It's being stewarded. The miraculous, He's kind. He's gentle. He's, you know, sometimes you, you know, His voice is very low, but it's, it's all indicative of the attributes and the characters of what a true healing and deliverance really is. You've been through it, but not only have you been through it, you want to share with the people. You're on your 134th episode or whatever that it is. So, the miraculous is right here. It's right on the other side of this lens. This is where you need to tap into. I'm not trying to build up our network. I'm just saying we know with whom we labor with. This is a man who really wants to pastor God's sheep. And he's unique in his ministry. He's unique in his calling because it's a miraculous. If that weren't true, then God wouldn't have done what he did to you and resurrect you. Seven minutes you were out, or whatever. Seven ribs broken. Come on, somebody. Seven ribs were broken. He was out for a while. And I love the testimony you and Doctor the last show. I really enjoy that how you shared that you, um, you only 12 or 13 days were you in the hospital, and your family was thinking, "Oh, it's Tim. It's going to be two months." I'm not knocking anybody. I'm just saying it's kind of a matter-of-fact thing. No, we want to take the anointing seriously. Doctor and I have worked very, very hard to discern and understand where God has you in this season and in this time, in this place. And so, the miraculous is right on the other side of this lens. If you need a healing, if you need a touch from God, I want you to borrow his testimony and just trick yourself into believing that God can do the same miraculous and supernatural in your life.
Some of you are on the verge of just losing it all. Bankruptcy. Some of you got the gun to your head right now. Some of you, you just, you're not even sure. You're so pathetic that you don't know what to believe, who to believe. You're buying into the lie of the secular media and all the pundits out there, the podcasters and the whatnotss and the naysayers who've got you so confused. You forgot that there's a God in the Bible, and that He's created you, and He's gra—and you know what? He's given you a mantle. He's given you a purpose, a specific calling that you know what? It's different than anybody else out there. That's right. Kenneth Hagen, all the greats. Hegy, I was watching Hegy. I really enjoy the son, Matthew Hegy. He's amazing. And man, he's, I mean, he's just a poster boy for holiness, right? Well, you two have something. It's a little bit different than those ministries, but it's yours, and it's uniquely yours. Your job is to investigate. To get in that word, as Doctor says. Uh, you've got to, uh, go into the word, and you've got to really search it out and study it. Uh, so tending to the word is what he says. Proverbs 4, I believe it was, tending to the word. That's what you've got to do. That's our calling. Some of you out there, you have been predestined, pre-ordained to have the healing hands, the gift of healing inside of you. You can call forth the miraculous. You can just speak it out, and it'll happen. Demons will tremble, and heaven and earth will move to the side so that the Holy Spirit can come in and do the work.
You know, the, uh, healing and deliverance ministry is a very, very unique ministry because it deals with the nuances, Apostle, of, uh, how the enemy can afflict people. We see it in Lamentations 5. If I could just read that real quick, uh, on this point. This is a powerful point because I want the people to step into a greater understanding and dimension of what you're doing here on the network and how that you now are out speaking with the people and having like meetings and and doing the different, maybe the hands-on one-on-one. Not in the media. I mean, we are in the media, but I'm saying God's taking you to another level, another threshing floor where He's got you working hands-on, you know. And in Lamentations 5:8, let me pull that up really quick. Bear with me. Where are we? This is so powerful. This changed my life. It has to do with iniquity. And why is it that sometimes we keep going around the same mountain? Meaning in business, meaning in marriage. The three things that Doctor and I teach on, and the things that he really is an expert in. It's the marriage, or relationships rather. A lot of that, it's marriage for most of us. I mean, in America, there's so much freedom. The issue is usually marriage. It's not with your mom. It's not with your dad. I mean, there's sibling rivalry in these different things, but marriage specifically, family, and relationships in general, just in totality, relationships. That's the first thing. The second thing is money and finances. Where to go, what to do, how to do it, how to steward it, how to obtain it, how not to obtain it. The godly way versus the ungodly way of looking at money. And then the third thing, uh, relationships, is health. The third thing is health. So, the third thing is probably the most important thing. It's probably the thing we give in America more attention to. We run here and we run there. No, the healing and deliverance ministries and the, the ministries of healing have the capacity to, I believe in Jesus' name, as the Joel 2:28, as we take that with the authority we've been given, that the old man will prophesy and the young man will dream dreams, that we can not maybe empty the hospitals because they have their place, but that a lot of people that are there would should not be there.
>> Amen.
>> Then we can clear some of those hospitals to make room for the people that really need it. Meaning, you know, you broke your leg or whatever that it is. Because we love the doctors. We need the doctors, but the doctors can only go so far. Why, you might ask? Because God has appropriated, as part of the five-fold, He's appropriated this healing. It's a gift, the gift of healing. Paul spells it out. Paul got the revelation. Paul understood well, you know, because the gift of healing, Jesus, Peter, none of the, the, the foundation of the church, Acts chapter 2, and even before that, the first 12 members, Jesus being the first member, because he was the member of the church. You might argue, well, he was a church. He was a church, but he was the first member of the church. Why? Because he was all human. He was 100% man. Kenosis. He un- he he stepped down and out of his divine wrapping and became a man, and in all ways suffered that we might identify with him. So, He's the first member. Then there's the 12. Well, it's not until the Apostle of Apostles, Paul, 35, 40, maybe 45 years later, when he pens what he pens in Galatians and Corinthians where he talks about, he calls it. It's his words. It's his figure of speech. It's what he, in a parable form, the way Jesus taught. Jesus taught in parables. Paul reveals in that parable form. Why? He owns his experience. He owns it. I want you tonight to own your experience. It doesn't matter where you are in Christ. Don't let the enemy beat you up with the doubt, the self-doubt, the pity pot, any of that. You need to know that you know that we're in a new time, a new period, if you will, a new age of what? Of the Holy Spirit being in unlimited measure and more. Like Doctor said in the last one, and I got a lot out of this, he's the Holy Spirit is in you. All of God resides in you. I know it's crazy, but it's a spirit thing. It's spirit to spirit. Let your spirit, as you listen to Pastoring God's Sheep, as you anticipate that book, as you pledge for that book, which he will sign in December when it comes out and it's released on the market worldwide in print, I want you to trust God like you just get crazy with your faith. And for those of you who need a healing, I will address that as we pray towards the end. I want to pray for you. But my point is to say the healing and deliverance is a nice, like what Doctor and I like to say, a niche market. Meaning, it's a niche ministry. It's a unique ministry. It's, it's almost to the brokenhearted like Jesus's ministry was to the destitute. He, you know, uh, he said they're without a shepherd. In many places, Jesus in the gospel shows, I'm for the ones that don't have anybody, that are abandoned. How many of you are feel like you're orphans in the spirit? How many of you feel like everybody's abandoned you? Everybody's left you. No, not everybody's left you because Pastoring God's Sheep is always going to be there on the Marketplace Network. You can turn that baby on, and you can receive what you can receive because you're dealing with somebody who knows what he's saying. He's been there. We, he's been knocked down, dragged out. So, all I'm saying, Lamentations 5, uh, Jeremiah says the forefathers, we inherited the iniquity of our forefathers. It shows you right there that a lot of this, you don't own. You don't possess this. So, dealing with the miraculous, how does that work? What, what it is, is you need to recognize the enemy is trying to put that on you. The enemy is trying to fix you. Yes, he even will do that generationally. Cause the iniquity of the fathers to stomp you to where you'll be on this pattern, this gridlock of this bottleneck where you can't get your next breakthrough. Now, this is if you're saved. If you're unsaved, you don't have to be saved listening here. We would wish that you would. But listen, if you just tuned in and you're not a believer, and maybe you even have an attitude of doubt, no, you, you, I want to say to you that you are on the road to destruction because it's been planned strategically. You've been maligned and misaligned and misdirected for generations and generations. If that weren't true, D, uh, Jeremiah wouldn't have wrote that in Lamentations, the iniquity of our fathers. There's an iniquity of the fathers, and we see it clearly with King David. Bathsheba. He repents. There's a way for you and I out of this thing. You can never get so low that you can't go high if you just repent.
So, I'm going to lead, I want to lead. We're going to lead you in a prayer. It's a counter. It's a 120. It's a counter of everything that you've done and experienced in your past. You're going to say to the Lord. It's like Doctor said, it's a petition to the Lord. It's a speaking out. It's an oral declaration. It's, it's a way of saying to the Lord, okay, I understand this is where my grandfather was. This is where my great-grandfather was. This is where my great aunt was. But today, no, it stops right here. I'm going to press into the things of God because I understand like Jeremiah understood that it's the iniquity of the fathers and the forefathers that sometimes finds us in the situations where we are, we landed ourselves in. And it's not you per se. It's the wicked one. It's the enemy that wars against. Doctor said it three, two episodes ago. The enemy hates us. He hates you. Even if you work, live for him, or serve him, or don't know the Lord. Therefore, if you don't know the Lord, by default, you're one of his. Amen.
>> You're one of the wicked ones. So, your father is the father of lies. It's not the father of truth. I'm just saying, Pastoring God's Sheep, this is a nice little place where you can come and you can get filled up, and you can get taught, and you can get retaught, and you can learn and get built up and edified in the things of God and understand you're not supposed to do this alone. You, if you have it in your heart and your mind, oh, I'm a drug addict. Oh, you know, I'm an alcoholic. It's just me and my addiction. Then, you know, you're going to be left to the enemy's advice, uh, devices. But if you want to make a difference, that's all you need. You just need that spiritual understanding like David when he said, "Lord," in Psalms, uh, 118:9, he says, "Lord, show, uh, teach me and speak to my heart, Your heart, Your ways, Your precepts." He wasn't saying, "Oh, I want to understand this great revelation, Lord, so that I can lord over the people because, you know, You made me king." He didn't say that. So, some of you maybe you're down that road where you're, you, you're getting, uh, how could I say, because you're defeated, defeated. You're living in self-defeat. And so, you're just following the thing that the enemy has. He's the father of lies. He's, he's not smart, but he's not stupid. Meaning, he studies us. So, he studies us that intently generation after generation. We know in Exodus 3, uh, 4, Exodus chapter 3 and 4, uh, talks about the third and fourth generation. I'm sorry. The third and fourth generation in Exodus talks about how the iniquity to the third and fourth generation will follow you. Right? Moses there, he's declaring to the people, look, we need to really get right with the Lord. You know, the, the murmuring and everything that was happening, right?
>> Well, it's no different today. But the good news is Jesus was the type. He was the lamb slain before the foundations of the world. He's done all the heavy lifting. All you have to do is realize your stinking thinking, and you need to pick yourself up by the bootstraps. And you need to own for yourself what the Lord is calling you to do, which is to acknowledge His redemptive work in your heart and in your life and take upon you however and whatever way that that means to you. You know, we're so individually, fearfully, and wonderfully created and uniquely crafted as humans with the soul, with all the attributes and everything we have. I'm not saying there's this magic template. I'm just saying if you repent just a little bit, the Lord's going to meet you in the middle. And like Doctor and you said the previous show, um, the go-father will do the rest. You'll, you won't need the medication per se, or you won't need the doctor, or you'll get the, He'll build you up from the inward man as you read the word, as you get strengthened in the word, as the faith begins to, uh, quicken the mortal body, and you begin to understand that it's the faith that moves the things, and as the faith is moving the things, it gives you the revelation, and then you get the inspiration, and then you're able to get the spiritual understanding as you read the word, and it becomes engrafted in you, and then you realize, hey, wait a minute. I'm somebody that was destined to do to do this. I have a mantle. It's unique. As I said earlier, it's unique to what anybody else I see that I've always really admired that person, even though I didn't believe the way they did, and they were a Jesus holy roller. I admired something about them. Well, that's all the Lord is calling you to. He's calling you to a higher standard of understanding and to take Him at His word. To be brutally honest with yourself. Some of you haven't been honest your whole life. You've been telling yourself things, you know, uh, it, it's mindsets, core beliefs, and, and it's core beliefs, mindsets, and then those become behaviors. And you've been telling yourself the wrong thing for whatever reason.
>> Amen.
>> No, I want you to take out at His word. I want you to really get intent with Pastoring God's Sheep. And I want you to really jot down the notes and the points, the things that Dr. uh, Apostle is revealing to you and showing you how he's being led because he's not just doing this nilly-willy. He's gone through some stuff. That first book, you know, you talk about your life and everything there. So, I'm saying generational iniquity is a reality that I would say trips up maybe 50% of the people why they backslide or why they don't receive and come fully to the Lord with a pure heart, really intent to try to do this because they've been so beat up generationally that they just feel lost and they don't have any hope. But there is hope. There is hope.
Now, uh, I've had people tell me since I've come out of the hospital that Satan was trying to take me out, but God had a different plan.
>> Isn't it true that Satan doesn't have that power?
>> Uh, well, yeah, he doesn't have the power. We see that with Job. Um, cuz God said to Job, uh, well, Satan, it's crazy, I know, but the, the Satan goes to the Lord because he has access. He goes to the Lord and he says, "Have you considered?" I mean, he says, "Look at Job, he's blessed, he's all this, he's walking in, he's a holy man." A doctor has a great teaching on this. Some of the points that he's mentioned to me is just really the how he expounds it, but I'll just give you my concept and how I understand it with Job. Job was righteous before the Lord. He was upright before the Lord. But even so, God allowed a test to happen in his life. But it wasn't so much, I believe, for Job. It was for us today to show. He said, "What, what was the test?" Well, he said, "You could do anything, but don't kill him."
>> Right.
>> So, Satan has boundaries. You're absolutely right. And that if that weren't true, then Job wouldn't have read the way it reads because, you know, that's the example for us today. Um, anything we say, or of course, we have to line it up with two or three scriptures. Three being best, but two is good too. And, uh, one, well, you, you might have a thought, but you don't have a doctrine. And the other thing about that is nothing is of private interpretation. Meaning, everybody has, uh, an understanding. And that's why Paul says there's a thousand interpretation, uh, a thousand understandings, a thousand understandings, but, but nothing is of a private interpretation. So, one scripture, you've got a thought. Two scriptures, or I mean, maybe it's a doctrine, but you can definitely say it's biblical.
>> Right.
>> Um, so, yeah, that's, I would say based on that, I would say absolutely the enemy can't take your life. He doesn't have that authority. Uh, Jesus took the authority because He took the keys of death, hell, and the grave. And even before that, Satan, like Doctor said, he can only, um, blind you, discourage you, persuade you, or deceive you is really all he can do. Sometimes we give him too much,
>> in, in that, in a sense,
>> by deceiving you.
>> Yeah.
>> Couldn't he make you believe that you were dying, and there is no way to come back?
>> Absolutely. I mean, he's the father of lies. So, if you fall for one lie, what he'll do is he'll set you up for another lie, and he'll just keep perpetuating a false truth, a false narrative. But ultimately, Apostle, it's us who has the decision. We don't have to buy that. We have a free will. Uh, that's the thing. God has created us so beautifully that He's given us a choice to serve you, to serve Him. Meaning, or, you know, who, who this day will you serve? To serve Him, or is to serve the enemy. If we're not taking into account God's word, and we're not doing the things that we ought to be doing to walk out this holiness, this, this atonement that we've had, this grace that's been given to even do that or even understand that, then we're at the, uh, enemy's mercy, and he doesn't play fair. So, a lot of times, to kind of speak to that, it's the fact that we are lazy in our, um, application of the truth of God and His word that causes us to slowly move into a territory where the enemy has full reins over us. But it's only when we, uh, voluntarily say, "Oh, I'm not going to serve the Lord," that he probably has more authority to take our life because we're giving him that license to. But if it's not that, then it's really our laziness and our lack of understanding and willingness to, uh, walk out our salvation, you know, and do what we do our part, which is to, like you said in that, in your, your episode earlier, uh, remain prayerful, have that prayer life. Um, I like to say, be anointed to speak, but me and Doctor, we teach also, be anointed to listen. Listen to the Holy Spirit because prayer, if we're doing all the talking, I mean, I mean, I think there's a time and a place for that, but if we're doing all the talking, and if the Lord is, uh, if we're just talking, there's really no place or time for the Holy Spirit to really say, and He's just going to say, well, you're, you know, you're talking, I'm not going to do anything. So, I mean, the Holy Spirit is a gentleman. God is a gentleman. A lot of times, as believers, we've been in this many years. If you've been in any amount of years, we may, we all do that, right? But the thing is, is I'm just saying, um, it's a two-way thing. So, as much as we give and put out is as much as we're going to get with the Lord. He's fair. He's very fair.
>> We've only got a few minutes left. And I know that you have something specific you want to say to the audience.
>> I do. I want to pray for you. I want to say, in Jesus' name, rise up and be healed, and let your enemies be scattered. Father, I thank You, Lord, that, um, You are the God that desires good things. You give good things, you, you know, uh, to the just and also to the unjust. But I just want to say, I want to petition to the to the people here listening and to those that will listen in the future, in Jesus' name, that all of the work has been done and completed already on the, the cross, Calvary's cross. We've said this a million times. All you need to do, only believe, only receive. I call out right now, Lord, in Jesus' name, any, uh, healings, miraculous healings, uh, cancers. I believe in Jesus' name, by faith, Lord, that cancers will be disintegrated, tumors, all of that. Anything that's being health-wise, anything in relationships, those three key things: money, relationships, and health. I thank You, Father God, and I just couple my faith and I agree by faith for those people who maybe they don't have enough faith, but the words, the very declarations that we make, and the continued future declarations that Apostle will be making on this network and on this show, and, um, in Jesus' name, that that will be the quickening word that will open up and activate the faith. You don't need more faith. You just need to activate the faith you have because everything has been done already. So, if everything's been done already, the faith's been appropriated. You just need to receive that faith into your life in Jesus' name. So, I stand in proxy, Father, and I speak blessings. I speak wholeness. I speak healing. And I couple my faith with theirs. And I ask You, Father God, to honor that faith and grant, like You said so many times in Your word, "Pick up your mat, rise." And pick up your mat. You didn't, you so they were healed. The fact that they were able to rise up and walk and pick up their mat, it shows us, Lord, that that faith was honored, and that You did what You said You would do. That You move in the miraculous. That You're a God that cares about us in the totality of our person, body, soul, spirit. So, I ask You in Jesus' name, Lord, to address all three parts, all three, uh, parts of every person as I, as I, as I pray this, Lord, in Jesus' name, that You will begin, Holy Spirit will begin to touch their hearts, touch their minds, and that Your miraculous healing power will be able to move into their vessel, into their physical flesh body, and begin to do what You know and can and want to do in our lives. As, as the healer, the balm of Gilead will come, and that You will, um, remove every fiery dart, every bad report from doctors, Lord, every bad prognosis. I'm not saying, Father God, that You'll do it instantly. I'm just saying, Lord God, I believe in Jesus' name that You'll honor that faith and You'll begin to work in their lives and You'll show them whether it's an all at once or whether it's gradual steps. This is my prayer tonight for the people as I speak this over them. I thank You, Father God, that You're going ahead. You've already done the work. You're just honoring this. And I give You praise and glory for who You are. I give You praise and glory, Lord God, that that no enemy, no devil, no weapon formed will prosper because You've conquered it all at the cross. And the knowledge there is all we need to be able, like Doctor says, if you, if nothing's working, maybe you need the knowledge. You need to go back to the word. Uh, that they would receive that knowledge, or that they would realize, oh, I'm a little deficient here. I need to go back and get a shot of faith. I mean, a shot of knowledge, a shot of wisdom, a shot of understanding in the arm, so to speak. And that I, I can get what I need because we even see as you, the legion that were afflicting the man, you even said, "Father, oh well," um, "you needed more knowledge." And in that knowledge, you understood, and you didn't, he had to command. They said to you, "Can I go to the pigs?" They actually realized, "Oh, He's cleaning house. Clean house, Father God, in all of our lives. And we thank You, Lord, and give You praise and honor for that in Jesus' name. Amen."
>> Amen.
>> Amen. Hallelujah.
>> I want to thank you, Bishop, for being with me tonight and bringing such powerful, uh, words and answers to the people for, with, for, uh, miracles.
>> Amen. Well, it's a pleasure to be here. God bless you. This has been Marketplace Network and Pastoring God's Sheep. I want to thank each and every one of you for joining us and for inviting us into your homes.
>> God bless. I will see you next time.
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