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Hey everybody, it's me, Sam Stein, here with Will Summer and Tim Miller. The trio is back. Thought about you guys all on my vacation. Really, really desperately wanted to do this. Uh, but just couldn't get away from the fam in time. Too many margaritas, I think.
Uh, from the hotel shower. I thought about it. Didn't wouldn't have gone well. Closed. Clothed.
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I'm just going to give a tease. We're going to talk a lot about Candace and uh and Laura Loomer, who seem to be fighting a fair bit online. Um and then we're going to do a little bit of Will's newsletter, uh which I'm excited about from last night. But what the thing I I really We're going to be a little gimmicky here. I wanted to do something kind of got unnoticed. Uh Donald Trump last week's put out some posts where he's like I could do a a rankings of the mega pundits, the good, the bad, and the mediocre. He's like, "But I'm too busy, but we're not too busy." And so we have Will doing a ranking, and maybe Tim can chime in with his own rankings of the mega pundits. We got them lined up. There's about 18 of them, so it's going to take a while, but we're starting with Candace.
And what are we how are we ranking them? What's the What are the terms of the categories? We're just going to do it based on Trump's own guidelines. The best moderates and the worst. Uh, but we can do your own rankings. I'm not I'm not going to be too Well, I was going to use the RuPaul system, but we can use I like the RuPaul option. Y you you could you free this is a free country. You can do what you want.
All right, let's start with Candace Lur Loomer. Uh, this is the Iran Iraq war of our times. Um, I have not really understood why this is breaking out to the degree it is right now. I know Will probably knows this like it's the Bible. So, Will, what is the backstory here?
Yeah. So, obviously, you know, the the stakes here are Candace's is very anti-Semitic opposed to Israel. Laura is on the opposite side of that and and obviously it's gotten more heated with the Iran war. So, that's kind of like what was going on before. More recently, Laura has started going directly at Candace. She's saying, you know, I'm digging into Candace's businesses. I'm digging into her husband, this guy named George Farmer, very wealthy British guy. Um, and so that it is sort of why they're now really tearing into each other just over the past few days.
Laura Loomer's been going for the jugular with the businesses of the kind of America Firsters. Uh, she went after Trump's or excuse me, she went after Tucker's uh, Zen competitor. She did company. She celebrated the hijacking of his nicotine pouches. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. She celebrated a hijacking. And so, and the gold. And the gold, too, right? Yeah. The gold. So, she's been going for the finances and and you know, people get upset when you call them anti-semmites and go for their money.
That's Yes. You know, us Jews, that's what we care about. Uh, anyways, moving on. So, let's give you a little taste. We're going to just read this first loomer about Candace Owens living with a man named Ryan who she was dating. I'm going to we're going to put it up here. Candace Owens was living with a man named Ryan who she was dating for seven years. when he came home one day and told him she was engaged to George Farmer. How is she a devout Catholic? Two weeks before she was engaged to George Farmer, she was living in Philadelphia with Ryan and her cat. She threw the cat in there. She was planning to marry Ryan. Then she met George and two weeks later she's engaged to him because she had more money than Ryan. Jesus Christ. Don't let her tell you she's some devout Catholic. She's from the streets. Ah, okay. She's for the streets. She's for the streets. Sorry. Okay. Ryan was her Republican boyfriend who converted her from Democrat to Republican by helping her make videos under the username Red Pill Black. How do I know? Because Candace invited me to dinner with her and Ryan in Connecticut multiple times in 2017. She's a social climber and will say and do anything for money and fame, including abandon a man she spent seven years with for a lady like Brit with a trust fund and rich daddy. Isn't that right, at Lord the Lord Farmer? Please tell us why you don't follow your daughter-in-law X. Oh my god. First of all, Elon needs to bring back the character limits. These tweets are too long.
Uh I assume the Lord Farmer is George Farmer's father who's a lord. Yeah, Mr. Copper as he's known because he's he's a he's a he's a wealthy metals trader in the UK and yes, he's a member of the House of Lords. And so that is kind of what Laura is setting up here. I don't know the backstory regarding Ryan, the jilted maybe boyfriend. Ryan, well, isn't Ryan the guy she was living with? Yeah, we know anything about him. No, no, I I I don't. And and so like what we're looking at here, we should track him down. That feels like a false flag newsletter. Where's Ryan these days? Where is Ryan? Ryan, come back. You are kind of like the spali who created Grant Candace Owens.
So basically what we're looking at here is two people who have really lengthy backstories, some some in court records, some not, that have really been picked over. And so whenever you these people start fighting, they kind of dredge all this stuff up. Um, in this case, you know, Candace Owens did get engaged to this George Farmer guy who again is very wealthy because of his father after I think she has said like two weeks of knowing each other. So that's really really pretty short. Um, there's like a Scientologist, a wealthy Scientologist they're really tight with in the UK. So there's a lot of kind of like weird stuff Laura's dredging up here.
George does give off kind of a pony a effect. I will say but I just think that's European like you know for at the millennial level this is different among the Gen Z's but at the millennial level there's always a thing European or gay. And I do think that the George George Farmer is just falling on the European side of that but Laura Loomer is trying to make it. Sorry what does that mean if you're European you come off as gay? Yeah I mean for a certain demo uh yeah a lot of Europeans came off uh a little a little gay a little fruity. every European across the continent. Well, uh, you know, more so than the average person from Little Rock. Yeah. Like if you took the median person from Little Rock and the median person from Brussels and they're a 38-year-old man, I'm not the the Brussels gentleman is going to seem a little bit, you know, a little bit lighter in the loafers. Just I mean, I don't I don't know if I agree with that. Their outfits are true. It's true. We need to travel the world a little bit more.
I would like to read the Candace Owens response tweet if you don't mind because this is what prompted um uh my demand that we trio. Uh there are many others. We're going to show some other things but uh this was the one that really caught my eye. So following Laura Loomer um suggesting that Candace is Owen Owens's husband might be a little ladylike that there might that the marriage might be inauthentic. Candace strikes back with this. Looks like I struck a nerve with Larry. She calls Laura Larry. I think it's kind of a transgender joke. You think? Um, you keep sharing this weird AI photo of my husband and Milo Yiannopoulos, hoping that someone will believe it's real. How pathetic do you have to be to sit around making AI photos? Again, you are deeply envious of my life, my husband, and my children. What is not AI are the photos and video that Milo has of you and your anti-csychotic medicine. Plus the videos of you learning how to make a star of David. You are not Jewish, Larry. You are a white Irish girl just like Rachel Doleazol. You've never had a botn mitzvah. It's really time to let this Jews act go. You think you're some scary thug, but you're just a manic depressive that has nothing of substance in your life. You're the useful idiot of the Trump campaign because they know that in your manic phases, you stay until 1:00 a.m. authoring non-consequential skits loomer tweets while the rest of us are with our families. Everyone pies you, but the reality is you have both the face and the sad life you deserve. Woof.
I mean, that is what you call going for the jugular. You know, that is there's there is definitely like Laura, you know, went to like a seven and Candace came back and he's like she's like, "Here's a 6,972." Like, "I'm going full on takedown. You're not You are not a Jewist."
Yeah. Is that a common I've never heard that criticism lobbed at Laura Loomer that she's fake Jew. Like I I feel like that one is new. New to me. That That's a new one. I mean, it there's a sense that she grew up in a sort of like very secular Jewish household. I believe in Arizona somewhere out west. Um but but definitely not that uh she's just like just faking it entirely. Um that that would be uh I mean that that would be like quite a development in in the Lunar identity.
I what I'm curious about is in the reference to Laura as Larry and like the where she keeps calling him Larry and makes the attacks like is Candace a big Labowski fan? Like, is she doing the like, "Is this your homework, Larry?" Like, "Is this your homework, Larry?" Well, you know, the the Larry thing was really popularized by Tucker Carlson's nicotine company in their post and also by Tucker's brother, Buckley, who really has has been mixing it up with Laura on Twitter for a while and will say, you know, thanks a lot, Larry, or whatever. Um, and and and so Candace is kind of picking up the Larry thing here. The other thing I wanted to mention about Candace's husband, um, you know, obviously she's talking about this AI picture of, you know, it looks like he's very much in Milo's confidants. Um, the, uh, this accusation, it's very common, obviously, to accuse men in the right, uh, in these interright feuds of being gay. Um, an interesting thing that comes up here is this, two worst things you can be, Jewish or gay or fake Jewish. Yes. Or fake Jewish, maybe even worse. Yes, even worse. Um, there's also this accusation that he he groped Raheem Kasam who is sort of a Banonite who also owns the Mr. Butter.
Do we have another do we have another source on that? Because Raheem Kasam is a liar. Well, I I just wanted to note that Raheem noted he at one point he was happy to host sort of a peace summit at Butterworth and he said Candace's husband can come as long as you know he doesn't grab my hog or whatever. So, you know, there are okay far for me to come to the fence of Candace's husband, but as somebody that who has been on the receiving end of Raheem Kasam's lies and smears, um he likes to just malign people and totally totally out of character for this universe.
Can we not gloss over the fact that Candace went with you never had a bach mitzvah as an insult? Like what what is this? We're not like on like we never even had a bach mitzvah. This is like Jewish summer camp insult. You read the phonetic spelling at your bot mitzvah. Yes. That might land in like the five towns of Long Island as an insult, but like I feel like no one no one actually cares that she I don't I don't know. I feel like me and JBL do those kinds of things with JD Vance. It's like, you know, like have you ever even prayed to St. Anthony when you lost something? JD Vance. No fake [ __ ] Catholic. But it's like you don't even I mean, the B mitzvah thing is so silly and trivial, but I guess maybe How was your B mitzvah, Sam? It's a bar mitzvah for a for a man. Thank you for your understanding. And it was great, you know. Well, should then shouldn't she have said bar mitzvah for she was going with the lyrics. That's true. She's like, "Yes, I had a barit slip." No, but it's like, you know, you you read from the Torah and your your creepy bessan voice and then you play a game of Coke and Pepsi, which I'm sure you guys have no idea what I'm talking about. And you have some DJs dancing and that's it. It's not like a sign of real I mean, it is actually a sign of religious virtue, but whatever. Like it's a silly insult. I feel like Candace should brought more.
I want to play the Candace video I think attack on Laura is also worth sharing. Why don't we pull that up too? Laura Loomer is also a malignant sexual predator and has been repeatedly accused since the beginning of her career of raping and sexually assaulting men. That is not a typical thing that men come out with that men come out and say a woman sexually assaulted me.
Hold on. I have to I have to step in and use my usual disclaimer. We've There's no proof of this. We're not saying that it's true. Well, no. There she's not Will's about to Well, not not of assault. I not of assault, but but but there is a history of um men saying Laura Loomer uh pursued them in ways that made them uncomfortable. Uh Gavin Wax, who was the head of the New York Young Republicans Club, was mixed up in one of the chat leaks, now works in the Trump administration in the State Department, I believe. He at one point was like Laura Loomer stalking me. I mean, he was like writing blog posts or something about this. Um and then you know, my there is just there's not a single reliable narrator anywhere in any of the stories. It's like every time he brings something up, it's like, well, Gavin Wax said so. And it's like, Gavin Wax is like full of [ __ ]
I need to just stop cuz the the seriousness with which Will came back at me. I've never seen Will jump into action. Usually, you're so like calm. You can really see the influence I believe Milo Einopoulos is having behind the scenes here. He is obviously a very a Loomer friend turned enemy and he has long pushed this idea that Loomer assaulted uh one of the staffers on her congressional campaign or or in general. And so you you can see here I I think there's a lot of uh agendas at play.
I did see another tweet from somebody talking about how Laura Loomer had made a a pass at them. This is not a handsome man after an event recently. I wish I would have bookmarked it, but there, you know, there are other other posters out there who are suggesting that she's been a little aggressive. And yeah, the Milo feud, I mean, as we've discussed on the trio before, you got to see that firsthand when Laura Loomer broke up my fight with Carrie Lake at a bar and then uh told me that she part of the reason why she broke it up was because she had her eyes on another homosexual. And it was Milo. And then the two of them started screaming at each other at the bar.
How do you keep track of all these feuds, Will? Like there there's so many different angles here. I know. I love them. I love them. And and you know, people are always calling me, oh, you know, I got to get this person or whatever. So, you're right. I mean, you know, we were talking about maybe someday doing kind of a whiteboard crazy wall where I explain all the different different allegiances and feuds.
Yeah. Well, can we let's play the other video, the sort of infamous rumor video where she does appear to be throwing herself at a an individual, a male. Uh, and this one's always made the rounds. Candace. Candace uh uh put this up as well. Let's play it and then Will, can you just explain cuz this I've seen this a million times and I don't even know who the guy was, but you told me who it was. Let's play it and then Will, you could take it after that.
It'd be like that sometimes. I know. They're just jealous because I have big tits and Ashkanazi IQ. Yes, that's what it is. You got it. Anyway, next time you're in New York, let me know. We'll hang out. Bring your girlfriend in New York sometime and we'll all hang out. We'll go to like really cool restaurants and hang out and we'll have a blast. Yes, I will bring my girlfriend. Okay.
What is the origins of this? Bloomer in the video. Yes. Um and and and so this is one of the most sort of treasured relics of right-wing media infighting. What we've got here. I believe this is almost a decade old at this point. This is a video of Laura Loomer hitting on a guy named Mike Ma who uh would later go on to be an eco-fascist neo-Nazi writer. Uh very treasured by a lot in the far right. uh who I I believe last year there was someone who was like trying to blow up a power plant who had copies of his books. So that's that's what we're working with.
I'm going to have to defend Loomer on this one. Um I was on Candace's side earlier. Uh you got to call them balls and strikes in these sort of situations. Nobody Nobody sound Everyone sounds embarrassing flirting. Everybody sounds embarrassing flirting. There's never been a leaked text where somebody is sliding into another person's DMs where both sides seem very chill and cool. Like if there was a video of anyone at the bar any at any time talking to someone they wanted to kiss, you would be embarrassed to see that video. And in that case, I don't think Laura Limmer was doing anything inappropriate. She was flirting with a handsome eco-fascist. And and he was kind of being kind and and and saying no. Um he was pretty forthright. I have a girlfriend. Let me just stress I'm bringing my girlfriend. Who shot the video? I I'm just dying to know. We don't know. I mean, this is this is really like alt-right 2016 2017 times. I mean, you can I you know, I give Laura a lot of credit. If there was a video of me like that out there, I think I'd like kind of slink away and, you know, shrivel up. Uh, but, you know, she she the big tit bar, will.
Well, like a video of me saying, "Oh, I got big tits and an Ashkanazi IQ." to to a Nazi, you know. I don't know. It is a little bit of an irony. Uh, I I used to throw up my Ashkanazi IQ as a pickup line in college. It did not work. Oh, really? Work. Yeah. Surprisingly, I thought it was a go-to. Um, seriously? No, I did not. What is your IQ? Do you know your IQ? You taking an IQ test? IQ. No, but I am Ashkenazi and I was bar mitzvah legit. Um, anything else we want to talk about in this feud or not?
Well, you know, the one thing I wanted to bring up here is Laura's acting like she's going to the Mcron obviously are suing Candace um over the trans allegations. And Laura is acting like she's going to uncover all of Candace's hidden assets. She's saying, you know, you're changing, you know, officers at your companies or whatever. I mean, to be clear, that lawsuit is really just getting started. Laura loves being like, I I want them you to know it was me. I tipped off, you know, I I showed President Trump Tucker's rude tweet as though, you know, they wouldn't find these things eventually. But it is interesting that Laura is, you know, trying to help the Mcron out.
I will just say we've played a couple Candace videos and only done one Laura tweet, so I want to just do one last tweet to sort of round this up. Let's do the one about her. Got to make sure. We also say both sides are heard. I want the one about Charlie choosing uh Erica over her. Can we put that up? It says, "Every day the world watches you humiliate yourself because you were so mad Charlie Kirk chose Erica over you. You didn't get to go to his wedding and you weren't even allowed to say goodbye at his funeral." Oh god, that's how hated you are because you are an oxygen thief and you should be charged for every bit of oxygen you steal from planet Earth. Kind of like a captain trade. It must burn you that Eric was the last person to touch his Jesus. I don't know why I decided to read this. I'm going to stop. This makes me uncomfortable. I don't like this.
Uh oh, we can can we do the can we scoop ahead to the last line? Sure. Your children hate you. Your children hate you. And your allegedly homosexual husband most definitely hates you. It's a strong quot. I just I just think that you know the gay thing. I I I don't mind a good gay joke. All right. Like if you can execute a gay joke against somebody, particularly in a MAGA on MAGA feud, I'll laugh. I'll chuckle if it's well done. Okay, this feels like a stretch. This feels like you're really struggling. I mean, Candace has multiple young children. So, George Farmer is clearly capable of consummating the marriage. We don't have any evidence that he's actually gay. I I just I feel like there's so much to work with with Candace that it feels a little feels a little cheap from Laura. And, you know, I think we're kind of grading this figure skating judge style. I'm going to have to dock her a few points. How old are these people at this point? Uh Laura's uh maybe third or 31 or 32. Um, no, Laura Loomer is only 31. It's easy to Google. You guys talk while I Google this. Candace is 36. Candace looks great. Laura Loomer is only 31. 32. If you could, you would could have told me 52. I I'm going to leave that one. Leave that one there. I That is shocking. 32 years old. I hear a lot. Yeah. At some point they're going to age out of this. That's got to be fake. That's got to be a fake age. Like she's doing the fake birth certificate. No, I mean, no. I mean, we've I mean, we've her career has been public basically since she graduated from college. Yeah, that's right. I just think at some point you get too old for the show. She considered one skin. Our friends at One Skin. You know. I Is this an impro in show ad placement? Impro ad placement. Whole Work Takes is sponsored by Zach Do. I've got young kids at home. I know health issues don't follow a neat 9 to5 schedule. In fact, sometimes it's 9:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. With Zach Do, having no time to book a doctor's appointment is actually no problem. So, when you don't have any time for yourself until 11:00 p.m., cut your finger making a midnight snack or binge watch a medical drama and unlock a new health fear. You can go to ZDOC anytime, 24/7, and find a doctor you love to make your health plan happen. Yep. even if it's way after hours. Zach is a free app and website that helps you find and book highquality in-et network doctors so you can find someone you love. We're talking about booking in-et network appointments with more than 150,000 providers across all 50 states. Whether you're looking for dermatology, dentistry, primary care, eye care, or one of the other 200 plus specialties offered on ZuckDoc, you can easily search by specialty or symptom to build the care team that's right for you. Appointments made through Zdoc happen fast, typically within just 24 to 72 hours of booking. You can even score same day appointments. Stop putting off those doctor's appointments and go to zdoc.com/bullwork takes to find and instantly book a doctor you love today. That's zoodoc.com/bullwork. zdock.com/bullwork takes. Thanks Zdoc for sponsoring this message. She should concern herself with the scinsesscent cells. She's 31. All right, I'll just I'm going to leave it this. At some point you got to age out of this. But then I look at Megan Kelly and she's in her [ __ ] prime right now. Oh, Megan Kelly, Mark Levin. I mean, you know, people will strong late in life. Donald Trump, right? I mean, they love they love this [ __ ]
All right, let's move to the rankings. So, here's the deal. And this is gimmicky and I admit it, but whatever. Trump, as I noted up top, he put out this uh social. He said he should make a list of the good, the bad, and the somewhere in the middle magundance. And then he didn't do it. And there was some appetite online to see what his list would look like if he did do it. So I put together a list of 18 pundits. This is a lot. I'm going to read through them. I know Will prepared for this. So Will can give us his list and then Tim maybe you could just critique.
Yeah, I'm prepar I'm going to do it right now. We're doing it live. Okay. So here's the list uh in no particular order. Joe Rogan, Ben Shapiro, Tucker Cross, and Candace Owens, Benny Johnson, Tim P, Nick Shirley, Megan Kelly, Jack Bobic, Alex Jones, Laura Loomer, Mark Levvin, Nick Fuentes, Will's boy, Elijah Schaefer, Tim's boy, Clay Travis, Chris Rufo, House and Habit, and James Lindsay. Okay, that's it, Manda. That's that's a list.
So that is a rough list. It's a it's a rough list. We left we left out the Fox News people. We thought that and we're going to keep TV to the side and we just list this was getting too long. Now the instructions were and we don't have to follow the instructions were to pretend you're Donald Trump. All right? So you're the president of the United States and you just basically want to inhabit his headsp space and say, "Okay, here's my six good, here's my six mediocre. Here's my six bad." Those are the instructions. Will your list?
Sure. So I mean let's just line them up. So I'm not going to do that. the Trump creating my personal list. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, let's let's just talk about who's who's, you know, who's who's the new hotness and and who's old and busted. Um, yeah. So, so who do we have? Let's kick it off.
I think that the first category is the people that Trump likes now. Right? So, that's, you know, that's going to be Micro Penis, Mark Levvin, you're going to put in there at the top. I think he said it seems like Trump's watching all his content. Yeah. And then Ben Shapiro, I think, is is in in the fam right now. I would say Benny Johnson seems to be Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Benny has become very critical of Israel. Um, and, you know, Benny's getting is getting a little rowdy. So, I think Benny's in the bad boy camp.
So, I guess we'll put Klay Travis in the good side since he is supporting the Iran war and wants to bet me a million dollars the gas prices will go down next year. I'm still trying to fund that uh bet because I feel pretty good about it, but I don't I don't really I don't have that kind of scratch to throw around. You could help me with that if you wanted to join the Bull Work Plus right now. Bullwork plus. So Clay, he'd be in the good list. Um boy, it's kind of tough. He's on the outs with a lot of people. Loomer, I guess. And Nick Shirley, I guess, would probably be on the good list. Pretty hot.
Where's Tim P on this? Tim Pool, I think, is still on the good list because people Tim's kind of a hard one to nail down. He's also doing pretty well. He's going to open a coffee shop soon. So, I feel like Trump likes the likes to see business success. Okay. Okay. I'll put Tim in the in the middle because we need some people in that middle list. Um, it's easy to do the bad list. So, we can we can start there, too. Obviously, on the bad list, Tucker. He [ __ ] hates Tucker right now. Candace, not happy with Candace. And Megan Kelly, he's been railing on her. That's three right there. Okay. And Alex Jones. and Alex Jones. Alex Jones. Yeah. That's four. So, we need two more. Rogan's kind of Rogan's at the White House. He's at the White House, but he's also not totally happy. So, I'm going to put him in the middle. I think they're courting him. Yes. I would put him in the middle.
Okay, that leaves a bunch of curious ones. Uh Nick Fuentes. I think you got to put him on the bad list. Bad boy list. Yes. Okay. Yeah. All right. Elijah Schaefer. I mean, like, setting aside that Trump has no idea who this is. Elijah Schaefer is is on the bad boy list. He recently dyed his hair blonde. A lot of revelations are coming out in his lawsuit.
Can we flip table Eliza Schaefer because he's going to be in my good category. We're going to get it. Yeah, we'll explain it a little bit. Okay, fine. All right, keeping going here. James Lindsay kind of, you know, James Lindsay would be in Let's put him in the middle list. I I want to do Tell people who he is. I'm not sure everyone knows who James Lind is. So this is a guy who is kind of one of these conceptual James, you know, he was one of these big the big kind of faces of like anti-Dei and critical race theory guys and more recently he's become like a big um anti people like Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes who he calls them the woke right which doesn't really make any sense. Um but but you know let's let's just put them in the mushy middle. Mushy middle five. House and Habit, you know, House and Habit was just at the White House, I believe, uh, meeting. You know, she's trying to revitalize the Maha agenda. So, I I would say, you know, I I know I know the good list is full, but, you know, I think she she's in favor with the White House, even if I think she's kind of struggling in other ways.
Okay, that leaves two ways House in Habit struggling. Well, you know, Candace is is dinging her and um, you know, the there's kind of a revolt. I think she's losing a bit of the grip on the Maha movement. Okay, that leaves two people. So, I'm just going to go through two sort of like um originals, honestly. There's Chris Rufo and Jack Povic. Chris Rufo, I think he's he's on Trump's good side because he's against the woke right type people. He's kind of, you know, I don't know, he's kind of split. Maybe, let's put him in the middle. And then Jack Bobic, you know, loyal member of the Pentagon press corps. Um he's he's kind of like they're trying to push him into the Candace camp. I think he's trying to straddle this line and and he's been getting under some pressure, but I think um, you know, what about him? Well, he was calling for foreign agents on in MAGA media to be arrested. Um, so, so yeah, I mean, I I I think he's on Trump's good side. Man, I don't know about that. I feel like he's in the middle. Uh, put him in the middle. Put him in the middle. Fine. Fair enough. All right. Okay, Jack. Yeah, my list is is tough. Um, I got to say because they're all on the bad list for me and I've I've come up with five. I've come up really with four, but maybe five that I I could I could plausibly say right now their content is speaking to me.
Okay. Number one, I have to say James Lindsay, who you after mentioned. He went after the woke right. Um, I, you know, all of the right-wingers hate him now. He's really, he's kind of a tragic figure. He's kind of a frumpy, lumpy man with a lisp and like all the other content creators are dumping on him, but like his points are kind of right most of the time lately, at least in his critique of his fellow MAGA commentators. So, I've been I I just want to give James Lindsay an adab boy because nobody else is. Also on my good list. Okay, we need to put some words in between good list and then the name I'm going to say next.
Okay, so we're going to talk a little bit. We're just going to say this and that and we're going to talk about this. We're going to say like and we're just judging this based on well charisma, uniqueness, nerve and talent. No, we're judging this on comedy stylings on their content creation and commitment to voting for the Democrats in the midterms. And that would be Nick Fentes. He's the only one on the list that's going to vote for the Democrats in the midterms. And I got to tell you, bad person. very bad person. If you're a young impressionable male, do not watch his content. If you are somebody who has who has, you know, is confident in your beliefs, watching Nick Quentis make fun of the people that call in to ask him questions is pretty good material. Like, he's really [ __ ] on the people that call into his own show. And you can kind of tell he hates his life now and he hates the other Gropers. And we're going to get I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that. This is like that tweet where you never have to hand it to ISIS. This is like a very Okay. Well, I didn't I put a lot of words in there. It's gonna be a tough clip for people. Joe Rogan, I think, was at the White House. Don't like that. Don't like that. But yeah, he was there for the reasons of supporting, you know, psychedelics, which I do like. And uh and he's been criticizing Trump lately, making fun of the MAGA boys for being dweebs. So, I'd put him on my good list.
Okay. Eliza Schaefer. Every picture of him I see lately is with a twink. Yeah. Yeah. So, I don't I don't exactly know what's going on with him, but he's got a twink army, and as long as that's consensual, yeah, he's basically European at this point. Yeah. As long as that is a consensual thing, uh, I support him in his journey. Um, House and Habit I had as as also on the list just because she seems like a tragic figure. She was reading my book recently, so I think that Okay, great. Put her on the list. I could think about something nice to say about those five that are 13 left on the list and I really couldn't come up with anything. Were there any other nominees for the other 13 to put in the good list?
We had Yeah, we had other nominees. Uh there was so we did well the three the three Fox people we had that we were going to talk about again the whole point was like are they on Trump's good list but you've you've reverse engineered this was uh Hannity was one Greg got feld was another and then and then the third was who do you remember well it was Hannity got feld and Jesse Waters oh Jesse Waters also worse so my question is who else would you put in my you know in a category of you just got to say something nice about You could just use this. Can you come up with one nice sentence about anybody for me? Elijah Schaefer and the Twink Army. Joe Rogan and Psychedelics. Uh James Lindsay bring against the woke right.
Is there one? Yeah. Megan Kelly, my girl. You think she's hot or No, no, no. But she has been like, she's been liking a few of my tweets recently. I noticed she's been liking your tweets. Yeah, I've noticed. Megan, she's been liking it. Keep the likes, Megan. I like the likes, but I would love an RT more. I do. I don't have to hand it to her. The likes are secret. They feel like they can secretly do it. I'm noticing. I'm noticing, Megan. Thank you. I appreciate all the secret likes. Okay, that's I can't put her in my circle of trust, but uh, but that's that's a good six down. That's fine.
All right, I'm just going to go quick quick run through and for the original idea here. What would Trump think of these people? And I'm just going to go through list and I'm going to go where Will and I kind of settled. Rogan mushy middle. Shapiro like Tucker hate. Candace hate. Benny mushy middle Tim Pool mushy middle Nick Shirley like Megan hate Jack Basobic middle Alex Jones hate Laura Loomer love Levvin love Fuentes hate Schaefer what did we say with Schaefer he has no not sure who he is Clay Clay Travis likes Rufo middle house and habit we decided what I forget likes likes James Lindsay we said middle loves oh loves Lindsay and Megan Kelly hates. Okay, we went through the list. Tim, you you queued this up very nicely when you're giving your love fest of Nick Fuentes.
That's not right. I did not do that. I did not do that. It was not that. I I had some narrow points. He's voting for the Democrats and when he makes fun of the other gropers, it's funny. Okay, that's it. A lot of other bad traits. Don't clip it. Lot of other really bad traits. Bad person. Steve Guest is gonna clip it. Make fun of you. Go off on you. Whatever. All right. Uh He hates his own fans. Nick finds like truly finds them physically repulsive. So, uh, Will's latest false flag. I was reading, I was laughing, but because at first I was like, this is so obnoxious of Nick Fuentes. Basically, these guys go on CNN to defend Croy Prison and Nick Fuentes attacks him for being ugly. But then I did take a look at this dude's shoes. I was like, they're like kind of like tan box loafers. Yeah, I I admit it, Sam. I was in your it was your tweet I saw before I read the whole article which is good and I but like I I started reading the tweet you know it's like you don't want to laugh you don't want to hand it to him but it's the tweet went like this two Nick Plant fanboys went on CNN to defend him in groperism like yeah whatever plant responded not with gratitude but with disgust and how heavy one was and over the clunky taupe loafers he was wearing and I just like spit taped on my couch like Okay, that's a goodie. That's that's funny. It was pretty funny, but and I couldn't tell if it was serious, honestly. Will, like, do you think Fuentes was being serious? Oh, yeah. I think he's totally serious. And I mean, you know, in the story, we talked about how this Groper now, who they're calling him Sienna and Griper, I mean, he had to he had to he put all these videos out saying, you know, okay, guys, I know all the death threats are coming in, but I'm a real groper. I got into it about a year ago. I've read mine comp and I'm going to read 1984. And then all these like the hardcore gripers because he kept defending himself in all these chat rooms and stuff and all the hardcore gropers were like I can't wait till you get docks. So, oh my god, I think there's a larger um there larger point here which I thought was really actually kind of insightful was that like there's this tension here where you're supposed to represent the perfect race and all your followers are just not perfect to put it gently. They're not. That's right. Well, as Nick Fuente said, if you have a BMI over 25, you know, you can't claim to represent me. You know, it's a tale as old as time hating your own fans. Uh I was watching a funny Kings of Leon uh interview one time indie rock band, all rock band. Their first record was very popular in like music nerd circles and then their subsequent records were more like kind of radio play stuff that'd be on. We were walking through Walmart and they're like, "We got excited. We start we started to sell bigger venues out and then we got there to the first venue on tour and I looked down at the front row and it's like a fat middle-aged person in dad jeans and mom jeans dancing and we and then and I started to get bitter and uh, you know, they came back around the other side and came to appreciate the ugly fans that they had and and I don't I hope that doesn't happen to Nick Foes because I kind of want the torment to really envelop him. Yeah. Yeah, I I don't think there's any concern that, you know, he he he's about to really grow a heart for the the less the the the less appealing griper. No. Um, well, we love our fans, just to be clear. Regardless of your BMI or, you know, how you feel about our content, as long as you're a paying subscriber, we love you. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I like some more than others, I guess I would say. Um, you know, compliments, the people that do compliments I like better. But yeah, you know, teach every everybody is special in their own way. Yeah.
Okay. Well, fellas, this was fun. Um, we should do it more often. I missed it, as I said. Um, before we leave, I just wanted to do a little programming note. As I mentioned up top, uh, we have these live shows coming up uh, in San Diego and Los Angeles next month. The tickets are on sale right now. It's going to be great. Tim's there. I'm there. Sarah Longwell's going to be there. These shows are awesome. They're so fun. Uh, people genuinely have a good time and we take a lot of audience Q&A. It should be a real blast. So, if you can't get around and get a ticket, please do so. You can get them at the bullworkvents. Again, that's up in San Diego, the borg.com/events. The bowwork.comwork.comvents. Just making sure you're paying attention. Tim thework.comvents San Diego and LA later this month. Will Tim, take care, buddy.