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So, today we actually get to see a Muslim provide possible solutions to Islamic extremism in the UK. This is Professor Ed Hussein, former Muslim Brotherhood member and extremist and reformed to a more, you know, proper stance and, you know, someone who actually still defends Islam, but I think it's a very refreshing to see his perspective. Let's take a look.
>> Let's not name him, but a prominent UK left-leaning media commentator came to America, too. And he went to pray at uh uh the houses of Congress. And while he was on Friday prayers, he he met American Muslims who are in the CIA and who are in the Pentagon. And as a leftist person born and raised in the UK, he just couldn't make sense of that. How How How is it You're in the CIA and you're in the Pentagon? You serve this country, and how could you be Muslim? Because for this leftist guy from England, being Muslim was a political identity that I've got to be anti-American and I've got to fight American soldiers, and I can't possibly be in the CIA because that's my arch enemy. But hundreds of Muslims are in the CIA, and thousands serve the armed forces here. And I think that's the success story, and you know, thousands are in the FBI and elsewhere, which which we just don't have in the UK to be able to point to.
Um and I think the Americans, you know, the the the non-establishment religion cause makes it the Islamist just doesn't take off because you're never going to establish your Islamism in this country. They just don't want religion at state level. They want it at individual level. Um and I also think, to your point, Americans are stronger in dealing with this. You know, they will kill you. They will take out guns. They will fight you. In a way that I just think in England, we're much more reluctant.
So, here's a question. Let's say Keir Starmer calls you up tomorrow and goes, "Ed, I want you to be the Tsar to tackle this problem. What policies would you implement that would actually help deal with this? Real-world solutions."
>> Okay, firstly, Kier Starmer won't do that, but
>> It's a thought experiment.
>> We're in the realm of fantasy.
>> Let's just see, yeah. And you're allowed three dragons to handle this problem as [laughter] well.
>> But but but but to return to the realm of reality where the problem is growing, you know, if we're looking at three three issues, then the first would be to map the mosques because on current trajectories, about 20% of Britain's mosques are controlled by Islamists. If we're defining Islamists, as I did now, kind of based on the their interpretation of Sharia and their definition for a state and their separatism, 20% of mosques, uh so so you map the mosques and you remove the leadership, you confiscate the property, you put in place from other mosques that are much more moderate control of those mosques, which sends a serious signal to Muslims in the UK, as happened in Germany, as happened in Austria. So, we have precedent that just because you're a charitable organization doesn't mean we can't confiscate property because it's advocating Nazism, Jew hatred, removal of the British government, and supporting terrorism abroad, right? So, that that should not be complicated. That's the first thing we should be doing. The mosques.
Secondly, there are 50% of of the the existing mosques that support blasphemy laws. In other words, you can't insult the Prophet Muhammad in the way that you just asked me a question. Now, I might have had an internal reaction that was uncomfortable because that's not how I see my prophet, but you're free uh and at total liberty to ask that question however you wish to, and I am at liberty to defend it, you know? Um and that's that's the limit, right? That you know, you can't ask for my killing, I can't ask for your killing. Um that's the liberal consensus that we have, but in 50% of the mosques, there is this attitude of you can't insult the prophet. If we do, we will kill you. And that's why this teacher in Batley is under hiding. Those mosques, whether we impose higher taxes or whether we remove the imams or whether we prosecute the leaders of those mosques have got to be confronted as though this is not the attitude in 50% of our mosques in the UK that we will tolerate. And and this these are not Islamist mosques, but this is a wider creeping problem that also leads to terrorism. And if And if I said this in the UK, I would have physical attacks on my well-being for just even highlighting this threat because I'll be betraying community secrets, but my interest is in the country and in civilizations and not in small I I
And the third and the final one is which we've been touching on repeatedly is that Muslim Brotherhood offshoots, banks, there are two banks associated with them, not major banks, but small localized banks, and charity organizations, schools, and television platforms, individuals have all got to be identified, prosecuted, shut down, banned, their bank accounts suspended, um their charitable status removed. You know, make life hard enough so that a younger And it's This is going to take 10 to 15 years. The younger Muslims see that is not our pathway. You know, we don't want to be on the receiving end of being up against our own country, our own civilization, the lands that have given us birth and protected us. Right now, if you're a Muslim Brotherhood ideologue and if you're in those categories of the mosque leaders that I mentioned, you're a hero. You're organizing weekly protests. You're part of a global network. You have a message against America, message against Israel, message against your own government. And guess what? You've got the far left with you on the protests every weekend. You're not paying a price. And as long as those sectors are not paying a price, the problem continues to increase.
>> Ed, it's been an absolute pleasure having you on the show. Thank you so much. This has been a really important conversation. For Okay, so anyone who wants to watch the entire podcast on trigonometry, I highly recommend it. I think it lays out a lot of perspective on the divide in a lot of the Arab countries and in the Muslim world itself, where there's like, you know, the Sunni, the Shia, and what each one supports, and I think it really clarifies a lot of things.
Um, you know, and it really I like his take on these things cuz he's very much different than, uh, you know, the son of Hamas. He's very loud and like in your face and like I appreciate that and like I I appreciate the fight he's putting up against all the Hamas lovers, but I like that Ed Hussein here, this professor, has very clear-cut, um, goals on how to eradicate extremism from the UK. And he's a UK citizen and, you know, if you watch the podcast, he's actually very, you know, very Muslim. He he believes in the core tenets of Islam, but he can recognize that when there's a problem in his own community, there's something that needs to be done. And I really appreciate that and seeing that. It's not something you see every day.
And you know, you got other, you know, podcasters and news media outlets like Cenk and Mehdi Hasan, who they will sweep everything their community does under the rug, and they'll on the surface say, "Yeah, we we don't like the killing of anyone. And we don't like, uh, the killing of any children." But you can see that in their material that they're totally anti-Israel. They demonize Israel at any chance they get, and they really push under the rug any type type of wrongdoings that are there from their community. To the point where obviously Ed Ed Ed Hussein just said that his own Muslims would kill him or like hurt him, uh, with the got a chance because he's speaking up against these things. So, you know, Cenk and, uh, Mehdi, if you really care so much about these issues, you know, let's you speak up to the point where, you know, you get some, uh, people riled up in the Muslim community, some extremists who may want to hurt you just as they do to Tommy Robinson and a lot of other people who speak up speak up against these issues in their community.
So, again again just some practical points that he shows that the UK can take should their government grow a spine at any point and try to fix their government and have law and order reestablished in their country. But again, just a very interesting take from a Muslim and you know, that's I think just to show that's not all Muslims are extremists. I think that's the media sort of on the at least on the right side of the spectrum sure tries to paint all Muslims as the extremists and I think this clearly smashes that um that perspective. Like someone who is clearly saying that, you know, Jew hatred is wrong and hating and bashing on Israel is terrible. So, yeah, I hope you enjoyed that clip. You're here at Jewish Uncensored with Ami Horowitz. Hi.