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[Music] It's the Bouie Show. When you hear it, it's the Bouie Show. The Bouie Show. Turn up. Show. When you hear turn up, turn up, turn up. We're going live in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Welcome to the Bouie Show. I am Z, the DJ. This young lady in front of me is fairly new to the adult film industry. She's got some miles on her, no pun intended. Meaning she comes from the world of running, track, and cross country. She is the first performer I've interviewed that has two signature blow jobs. It's time to ride with the dragon. Ladies and gentlemen, the one and only Dragon Throat herself, Zerilla Skies, is in the building.
Was that a lot to process? Do you approve of that intro?
I approve.
Okay, you like it?
Yeah.
I'm glad you like it. Did I get everything right?
Yes.
Okay, good. That is great to know. How are you?
I'm good. How are you?
How was your... I'm all right. It's been a great weekend. Everybody showed up on time. Everybody showed up.
I did make it.
You did make it. And you weren't actually late.
Yeah, you weren't actually late.
If it's less than 5 minutes, we don't. Black folks don't consider that to be late.
Oh, for me, it's late.
Okay, a little bit. Yeah, pushing. How are you feeling?
Good. Yeah.
How was you? What were you doing in Miami? You said you get back in Miami. I said, what were you doing?
Shooting.
Oh, you were shooting? Yeah. Who were you shooting for?
Dick Drainers.
Dick Drainers? Yeah. And who did you perform with?
Dick Drainers.
Which performer talents did you perform with?
Some new guy that I don't remember the name of.
You don't remember his name? You performed with him yesterday?
No, I performed with him maybe like Wednesday.
Okay. Or Tuesday. You only, you only did one thing?
No, that's a lie. Monday.
Okay. You only did one scene?
I did one scene with him, and then I did four others with the main guy that runs the Dick Drainers.
Oh, so the guy who runs the production also performs?
Oh, okay.
So how was that?
Great.
You enjoyed it?
Yes.
Yeah. What kind of scenes?
Hardcore.
Hardcore? Yeah. Okay. Hardcore can you elaborate a little bit? What you like? There's different hardcore. Is it bondage? Hardcore? Is it just rough pounding? What is it like?
Rough throat [ __ ]. So, uh, sex. Yes. Hardcore sex. Yes.
Okay. And you enjoy that? Or you enjoyed that particular...
In my mouth. Yes.
Okay. Oh, that, that, what it was. There's your water. Look, look how nice. Shout out to C for bringing you that. Go ahead and get your water.
Thanks.
Get your water. Go ahead and grab it. It's all right.
Sh.
I bring labels into it. Talking to the mic.
I hear you. I wasn't, I wasn't sure if you could bring labels into it.
Oh, no, that's fine.
Oh, okay. It's only water. It's not like you're promoting liquor.
Zilla Skies is in the building. All right, I'm glad you got back safe and was able to make it here for this interview. That was really cool. Um, I see your H, your hoodie. Um, what does that say?
Mental health.
What's that about? You promoting...
Somebody's stuff matters.
Okay. I mean, it is somebody's stuff that I bought.
Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. Good message. The number helpline is right there at the top.
That's cool. Yeah.
All right. Let's get to the real deal. Before we start, I got to ask. I got to go ask. Um, do directors and production companies say anything to you about bulking up with the weights?
Bulking up? I haven't been on set yet with my new B to know what they say, what how they feel about me, 'cause they haven't seen me.
You just shot? Well, only him. That's it. I've only shot for him, and he said I look good.
Okay. Back. So what are you, what are you anticipating for them to say about me?
Yes, I'm hoping that they're not like, "Oh, we can't shoot her. She looks like a man." Or something like that. I hope they just are like, "Oh, she can perform well. Let's keep shooting her." You know, 'cause I can perform good. That's what should matter.
Have you seen any other female performers, um, that are bulky with the weights, like mess with the weights, like how you do?
I don't pay attention.
Okay. Okay. Okay. You've been in the industry for about a year and a half. What has changed the most about yourself from when you first arrived on the scene?
Um, I guess my mindset a little bit.
How was your mindset before? It is now. What, what it is now?
Um, like back then I was more like bubbly, I guess, about stuff. But then like the deeper you're in the industry, a little bit, the darker you see stuff in certain angles of the light, you know? So some of that has changed. Like it's, it's a lot more, like, for example, there's, it's a lot more childish than I thought it was, like how people's behavior. I, I get it. Um, it's a lot darker.
That's, that's a, that's a, the, the fact that you choose that word to use, "darker," makes me think, okay. Um, it's a lot of sadness. It's a lot of, um, pain. Um, are you noticing that within your peers? A lot of lost souls? Um, 'cause that's when you say darkness, that's what comes to my head right now. At this current state, I'm noticing a lot of division going on. Like people are more like dividing and not.
And this is why you're wearing that? Is that one of the reasons? Darkness? Like you're promoting like mental? Is there a lot of darkness with mental health in, in this industry?
Um, like, you know, I'll be honest with you. We interviewed, what is this? Our, this is our eighth interview. You're our eighth interview. And mental health has came up, I want to say, at least in four different interviews. Um, so, and now you're wearing a hoodie with that. Um, have you noticed a lot of your peers in a dark place?
Sometimes I do. I mean, honestly, I wore the hoodie 'cause I just got it in the mail and I wanted to wear it, and I agree with it 'cause it's a good message.
Okay. Got you. Got you. Got you. Got you. All right. I'm not gonna lie. So that's what's changed the most. Darkness. You said you were bubbly. You didn't lose. You, you still have your imaginations though, right? You're not letting the game change you like that where you're losing your imagination and everything is just raw now, right?
I have some hope left.
Yeah. Okay. That's good to know. Um, I read in an interview where you said you started stripping while in high school. Did your teachers and family know at that time?
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. The whole. It, it was viral.
And how you were in high school? How were you able to?
I was 18.
Oh, okay. Okay. Gotcha. I have a September birthday. Okay. I got you. I got you. I got you. Okay. You had a lot more experience in oral sex than penetration prior to porn. Why is that?
Men just wanted head. A no vagina. No. I made that decision because part of me was scared of getting an STD, and I was trying to be smart. And I mainly was giving head then sex because I was trying to be smart about it at the time.
You do know that, um, and I'm sure you know this, I'm not asking you like, or you're stupid or anything like that, but at that time, did you know that you can also get STDs through oral sex?
Not in my mouth. No. Not back then. I, I didn't know. I didn't learn until I was in my 21 when I had, but any, I'm not gonna get talk. I, I didn't know that.
Okay. But now you know that. So, so has it changed now? Or you still doing more oral sex than than actual sex?
I still do more oral sex.
Yeah. Is that on the clock or off the clock? 'Cause on the clock, you got to have sex too.
Well, when I make content, I choose to do your own content.
Yeah. Oh, OnlyFans. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. Um, so since, since we are on the subject of oral sex, explain to me the difference in your two signature [ __ ]. The Z Slurp and the Dragon Throat, please.
Um, so this, it is time to stop the F. Go ahead. So the Z Slurp is something I've been doing since I was like 14 or 15.
Okay. Not gonna applaud that, but go ahead.
No, I mean like, I mean, that was just a kid. So I'm not gonna app.
No, I mean like the spit. Oh, okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. Okay. I, I wasn't. No, okay. Gotcha. No. Got the Z Slurp is, um, basically the spit itself going up and down. Not. And what the spit comes out in the, in the, in the shape of a Z in the, in the letter.
No, the, the, the slurp is basically like, you know, Zerilla slurp. Like, oh, okay. A boomerang. Oh, I got you. I got you. We can applaud that. Okay. I'm following you now. I'm following you now. The Zerilla Slurp. I got you. Slurp. Okay. I got. I like control it, you know? Can go like super far and then it back up. Like the difference what I call it that because like I notice when other girls try to do it, it breaks or they can't do it as much as it breaks.
You keep that so I can keep going for a while. Like I can, I can like spit it at you and ser it back. I can like tee you with it like a, uh, what you call it? A pink. Not what it. Yo-yo. Like Spider-Man's. No, you got yo-yo spit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And that, that was something that was a natural talent for you? Or is that something you had to develop?
Yeah, when I was 14, 15.
Stop saying 14, 15, man. You made me feel like a damn child. I, I'm not thinking. I'm not thinking sexual when I, when I. I'm not to. I'm just saying that I used to play with my spit.
I get you. I get you. Are you a tomboy?
No, I just. I'm just saying I used to play with my spit a lot and I just learned how to do it.
Okay. All right. Um, and the Dragon Throat?
And then Dragon Throat is two things. It's like the a move and it's all also the experience as a whole. Because a lot of people think that it's just for men, but it can also be for women and anybody else.
What's the move?
Um, the move is like the move. The move depends on the person. Every person gets a different unique type of way that I, I give them oral.
Gotcha. So depending on what their interests are and what their disinterests are, depends how I go about things. But the move is like includes the Z slurp, um, and includes like suction of me multitasking. Like I can do like five, five things at once, depending again on what they like and don't like.
I'm glad that you actually show that there's a skill to sucking penis. I know there is because I've seen Karen, Karen Stefans with Mr. Marcus back in my days when I watched adult films. She caught the penis like flipped it in the air without using any hands and then like called it in her mouth. I just thought it was really amazing. Have you done that?
Okay. Like spit in the air and caught it?
She did something like she whipped her neck like when like she tossed it. It's like almost like a, a self alley-oop, like a self-made alley-oop. Like, you know how basketball players throw the ball off the backboard and then catch it, like they pass it to their selves? So that's what she did with the penis. Like she kind of like tossed it and then like caught it without her hands. Like, I don't know. She just, it was just amazing. I mean, I've been able, I mean, I've been able to deep throat with balls included. That's anything. The penis and the ball. Balls in it. Okay. Yeah. It was only like four seconds, but it's the fact that I was able to do it.
Yeah. Hey, so, um, whole thing. And you know, you know, um, you have braces and you didn't have braces when you first came in, right?
No.
So how were you able to perform that? Are you like cuffing it with your lips? The braces? Like I would be a little skeptical. Like I don't know if I would want. Have I gotten? Have I received oral sex from somebody with braces? I think I have, maybe once in my life. But go ahead, please. The floor is yours.
Uh, I don't know what these other girls are doing, but I don't think they should be giving head with everything that I hear. Because for me to not hurt yourself, un let to not hurt yourself, you got to put wax on your bracket so that way it's not going into your cheeks of your skin. Okay? And basically, unless you have wires on the inside of your mouth, there should be no reason why your head game has changed. Checked with braces. Because I mean, what are you doing? Going like, going like this? Like I just, like, what are you doing?
So when you're sucking, what is, what is the technique to sucking a penis? Like, what do you do with your lips? You cuff it?
No, I open my mouth.
So how, how, how does the man, how do you make the man feel secure that your braces aren't going to cut his penis?
Well, if they have pubes, I use my hands to lay them down.
If they have what?
Pubes. Pubic hairs. Okay. I lay them down flat so that way.
Oh, so like the rock sign. So you put that around and then like the penis sits in. So you're doing it like this?
Yeah.
So to hold the hair down and then you just attack the penis from there.
Mhm.
But again, I'm still trying to figure out how your braces in the. I'm just trying to. I'm just trying to understand.
Well, I'm a professional and I've never hurt anyone a day in my life. I just, I don't understand how girls are hurting them unless they're like closing their mouth on them or biting them. Like, because if you just open your mouth and you allow your throat to relax, you'll be fine. You won't hurt them and you can do a regular blow job. It should be the same. People have told me that with and without braces, who have received the blow job from me, have said that nothing bad has changed. Like nothing has altered. Like the braces didn't do anything for me.
How long? How long did it actually take you to where you felt like, "I got this oral sex, performing oral sex"? When did you really feel like, "All right, I got it"?
When I started getting compliments. 'Cause I wasn't so, so sure about it until more and more people were like, "Damn, you ever seen? You ever made a man's eyes roll back?" Yeah. I get like shaking, all that. I get moaning. You can, you actually make them come from you giving them head? 'Cause that's a hard thing to do. That's a hard thing to do. I've had guys say to me, "I don't usually come from head, but I believe you can do it." Which puts pressure on me.
But you don't like that?
I, I don't. I don't like that. That's a lot of work.
Do your jaws ever get tired and hurt?
Oh, yeah. Max I've done is an hour and 15 minutes.
You suck penis for an hour and 15 minutes straight?
Bra. Why would you suck penis for that long?
Well, I didn't feel like having sex.
Oh, so you don't like. You don't like. I'd rather suck dick for a long time than didn't have sex for a long time.
Why?
It hurt. It bothers me. Easier to me. It's what? Easier to me. Huh? I don't know. It's like, but I also enjoy sucking dick a lot.
So you actually enjoy oral sex more than getting pounded out?
I can take it more in my throat than I can take it in there. Like, this is another hole. But yeah.
Okay. B sill Sky joining us on the Bouie Show. Uh, your pinned tweet quote, "As much as I appreciate goat throat status, please stop calling me goat throat. Respectfully, I'm Dragon Throat." I understand it's Greatest Of All Time, but I go by Dragon. So Dragon Throat. I'm better than the goat. Why have a goat when you can get that mother dragon? Was there something that occurred which led to that?
I'm not be cursing.
Oh, you're allowed to curse.
I just did that 'cause that's my style of talking.
Okay. Why did I say that? Right.
Mhm.
Because I get annoyed when people call me Demon Throat, Throat Goddess, Goat Throat. Like, I'm, I'm, I'm better than that. I feel like.
Uh-huh. I understand what goat means. I understand it. But the thing is, I'm also trying to create my own branding here. And when someone calls me something other than what I'm trying to get, it's like a kind of like a f you to me in a way. Unless you're new, then I can understand 'cause you don't know. But if like, you, you know what I go by and whatnot, and then you just go out of your way to do it, I feel like it's a slap in the face to what I'm trying to brand and do for myself, you know? I'm trying to be something else. Like I'm Dragon. I'm Dragon Throat. I'm not goat. I'm higher.
How did you get into adult entertainment?
How? Yeah. Um, stripping. Stripping. I tried out at a strip club when I first walked in. Not the first day, but I walked in and then I tried out later. And then the industry. I went to AVN the first time. And then the next time I went on Google.
Why do you have braces? Your teeth look fine.
Well, I had a gap and I didn't like the gap.
Gap like mine?
Yeah. Why don't you like the gap?
I don't like. I don't like it on me. I got used to the gap. I had a gap before when I was little, and I had braces before. This is my second time. So the gap is gone now. It looks like.
Yeah. So how long you got to keep them braces on?
Two months.
Oh, that's it? Yeah. Okay. I ain't too bad. So real Sky is joining us on the Boozy Show. Does, um, February 16th, you tweeted, "So if you hear me or see me say something, I know what I said. Laugh out loud. You ain't catch me slipping." You heard correct, my boy. What led to that tweet?
Um, so I said that because a lot of people are like fake. I realize and they always will backtrack on something that they said or or I did or I didn't say that. But if you come to me and and you said, "Oh, you said this and this and this," and if I actually said it, I'm gonna say, "Yeah, I said it." Like, one time this girl tried to press me in school and I was like, "Yeah, I did it." And then all of a sudden she got some phone call, had to walk away.
In high school? Yeah. Okay. I don't hear about no high school [ __ ]. This an adult entertainment podcast. So what about in the industry? Have you, have you, have you in the industry had that happen? What was somebody try to come say something to you about what you tweeted?
No. Have I? No. You would have remembered. I already can see that. I don't think so.
You said you said in an interview that, quote, "A lot of fake gays are the story of my life." What did you mean by that?
What a lot of fake gays are the story of my life? Oh, I deal with a lot of women who aren't really into women.
Oh, okay. Yeah. So they just do it because of the industry they're in. Then a some girls do it because it's a, it's a bad, it's like it's a, it's a hype. Yeah. Like, or like they're tired of boys or something. And like a lot of the women that I attract sometimes just kind of like play games with me and aren't really into me. Like they just like what I can provide for them.
Oh, you know how you know how to suck some vagina too?
Oh, of course. Better than sucking pen. M. Out here too. Oh, yeah. You tricking off on these girls? That's what you do with your money?
I had to. I had to strip her earlier. She screwed up. She what? She screwed up. She screwed up. She almost had, she almost had a whole sugar mama, but stupid.
Wait a second. Wait a second. So I, I need to get down to the real deal. Are you a lesbian or you bisexual?
I lean more trans lesbian.
Okay. Trans lesbian. That's what you said.
I lean more toward towards lesbian.
Okay. Towards lesbians. So you don't, you're not too fond of the penis then?
No. I love sucking. Day. No, not sucking. I'm talking about getting, getting sex on special occasions. If it, if I, if I vibe with the guy, then I really, really enjoy it. Right. Um, but the thing with the only thing with men is I don't want to have a relationship. I'm more like a one-night stand. Okay. We screw and done. Don't try to cuddle me. I'm.
Oh, you don't like to be cuddled?
I'm not trying to cuddle you. I'm just trying to, you know, do what I need to do, swallow and leave.
You keep saying swallow. Where?
All right. I, I, I mean, I can figure out what, what type of person you are, but I was just trying to get clarity for the people that are going to watch this. So talk to me about your piercings. Why all that?
Just 'cause you want to.
Yeah. I feel like I can pull it off.
Are those the only piercings you have on your body?
Yeah. I'm getting my tongue redone.
At? You got your nipples, vagina, any of that?
No, I'm not getting that done.
Okay. What has the industry been asking of you that you don't want to do?
I don't like straightening my hair sometimes. Okay. But I understand it's also like a choice sometimes. But sometimes I'm too scared to speak up about it.
And you said you're 22. Yeah. So what, what, what are you going to do today when you leave here besides, um, well, I just moved into my new room in the house. So I got some cleaning, organizing to do.
What are you staying in a model house?
Well, it's half model, half regular. 'Cause there's only like three other models there and then the rest are like civilian.
How long? Why the hell they? Okay. I got you. Um, how you, you're born and raised in California?
Yes.
Yes?
Yes.
So why do you have to live in a model house?
Well, I don't have to live, but like places aren't cheap and it's easy for me to be here because I'm right next to the highway. So like when I have a shoot, I'm like, it's very easy. I'm not an hour away.
But you're making money. Yeah. Why you don't stay with your peoples or share a room with a friend or something so the rent is cheaper?
The rent is cheap. I mean, to me, but then you could be, but you can be in the confinement of your own home, your privacy, opposed to living with random people.
I mean, I have my own space. Like I have my own bathroom.
Wipe your mouth. Other side. Left side. There you go. Got it. It's good. I ain't gonna let you sit there and talk on HD and then you got damn ice water or whatever on the side of your lip. We keep it player. Toast. So you are familiar now. You can go get to the bottom. Um, you, you, you were familiar with the Boozy Show prior to coming on?
I've seen it. Yeah.
Who, who did you know that's been on here? Did you watch interviews for yourself to know what to expect?
No.
H. You just knew somebody that was on here?
I've seen like pictures and I feel like I don't know how long I've been doing this, but a while ago or like two years now. That it must have been like a year ago. I remember seeing you like pop up.
Me? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Um, when, when Erica asked you, did you want to come on the show? What was your thoughts initially?
I was say yes because I remember that I was trying to get on your on the show beforehand and but I was never in Miami.
Mhm. Yeah. When we were coming to Cali, I don't think you were in the game at that time or you might have just been coming up and I didn't know who you were.
Yeah. Um, somebody spoke highly of you yesterday and said that they liked. I think it was Laney Gray. I told her you were coming on. She's like, "Zilla, you're going to like her." So she spoke highly of you. I just want to let you know.
Oh, yeah. We did a scene together. She's she's great. She's she's really cool.
She so she really cool? She's really cool.
Um, did you know that you were an attention [ __ ] prior to joining the adult film industry?
Yes.
You did?
Yes. But like a positive attention [ __ ].
No, I don't like negative attention. Is it true that you like to get your clip slapped? Is that with a penis or an open hand?
Both.
Okay. So you do like penis 'cause you're giving me the vibe like you don't like penis like that, but you just do it.
I do.
Are you a size queen? You don't seem like a size queen.
I'm, I, I like. I like. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. If it's, if it's a, if he's big, but me and him vibe really, really well and have good chemistry and whatnot, I'm able to take it and enjoy it. But if, if the guy is just doing it to just do it, yeah, just pounding me, then I'm more in pain because I am, I'm not fully open and relaxed, you know? I'm just, I'm just trying to, you know, do my job.
Have you experienced that where guys just pound?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah? As a performer or in your personal life?
More in personal. On set, they're better with it. If you speak up.
When you say personal, these men, random men that you promiscuous with that you met, or is it?
I used to date men.
Oh, you don't date men no more?
Yeah. At all. Not anymore.
Okay. Unless. But I would say if a man was able to draw my attention and keep it, then yeah, I would give a man a chance. But at this moment, I just. You wear dresses. And I think I've seen you in a dress though. Yeah. Okay. I dress feminine. I love. I like putting on makeup and stuff. Okay. I dress both ways. That's my style. I'm versatile. Just play it differently. Talk like we had Anna Fox up in here and she came in here wearing some like Playboy, like she was just chilled out, very casual. But everything I seen with her was always lingerie and doing this and doing that. But that was not the person that pulled up in here. I like to dress both ways, you know? It just depends what I'm feeling that day.
And you didn't want to make your hair straighten either because you don't like doing that. I've interviewed quite a few people that have curly hair that don't like to straighten their hair. But it makes you look older. It makes you look like a woman instead of.
Well, I'm trying to grow my hair back down. Looks like you. My hair used to be like down to my butt.
What's your nationality?
I'm white, Portuguese, and black.
Who your daddy? Black?
I think so. I don't know. [ __ ]
It is time to stop the F. I'm adopted.
So you're adopted?
Yeah. Oh, I only know what Ancestry DNA told me.
Okay. What age were your adopt?
6 months.
Oh, as a child. Yeah. Have you ever tried to find your biological parents?
Yeah. I found. I found my sisters and found about Mom. Good. I'm, I'm trying to see them. Actually meet them for the first time.
You met?
I'm trying to meet them this month, actually.
When did you, when did you, um, find out who they were?
When? Yes. When I did the Ancestry DNA test. We matched. Our DNA matched. And I sent a message.
How much did that cost you?
The thing was only like $100.
You ever had a talent be too rough with you?
I've had a guy. I mean, I've had talent not use lube for what? You do anal?
No, lube for the vagina. Yeah. Oh, that's rare. I don't really hear that. Used to hear a lot for the anal.
Well, if a guy turns me off, I don't know what they expect.
What, what makes a guy turn you off on set? Like when you come on, like when you come on the set, what are you wearing? Average? Are you coming on the set with the hoodie on and all that?
Well, I guess it doesn't matter 'cause you're gonna get naked. So I mean, I come to set looking like whatever. I just come to set chill. It's not like I come to set looking like a whole man like I'm, you know, or something like.
So what does a guy do to turn you off on set?
They're not. You feel like you can't talk with them. They, when, when they don't communicate to me, when they're not like looking at me like they're interested in a way. Like it's, when they're just like complicated or they don't want to use lube or go in slowly at first, no matter what size the penis is. So if it's an average size penis, if the bigger it is, the slower you have to go.
I get. But is it, so it doesn't seem like you're a natural get wet type of person?
I can. You can. But it just seems like there's not that attraction to men like that.
Well, also, there's also not a lot of teasing that goes on.
Oh, 'cause you go right into the sex. And without the foreplay.
Yeah. It's, I mean, like if you. Do you get wet when you performing oral sex?
Do you start to get moist down there?
You do. I get, I get turned on pleasing people.
Okay. I got you. So that's my thing. If I, if I can please someone, then that's my turn on.
So what made you do those little twists in the front of your head?
I don't know. I just thought about it in my head.
When did you do that?
This morning.
You knew he was going to be. Okay. You said, "I'm gonna just flip the script." It looks different. That's fine. It might actually go 'cause it might be. You didn't tell her what way I needed to look. Erica didn't tell you you're going to be on camera. Make sure you look accordingly. Not to say that you don't look accordingly. I'm just saying, did she not mention that to you?
I think she did. I know she did 'cause I always tell her.
Okay. But you come here, you always free to come here with your style. I, I totally embrace it. Just I looked at the mirror. I already knew you were kind of, um, I was like, "I'm gonna try something different."
Yeah. Ain't nothing wrong with that.
So those two twists, they represent anything or you just, that's what you was feeling?
I was just feeling it.
Okay. Okay. I got you. But with pigtails, what reasons have, have talents found their way on your note checklist?
Things that I see on Twitter. When it's, when a lot of girls are saying the same thing and there's evidence, but nothing.
Person that happened to you?
Oh, yeah.
What happened to you?
Um, I've had, I've had some experiences where a guy was just like horrible and stuff, and I put them on my no list. I don't have a lot of people on my no.
When you say horrible, you got to elaborate a little bit. What do you mean by horrible?
There's a lot of things that can make somebody horrible.
Well, he did like multiple things.
And what are multiple things? Theilla, talk to me.
So when I arrived, well, first of all, he lied to me to get me out to his house.
What was the lie?
I any step-by-step lie. The lie was that he said he can get me shoot shoots with Bang Bros.
Okay. Or Bang Bros. Bang Bros. I think. Okay. This is in Miami. All right. Yeah. And so I was like, "Oh, cool." And I was new, so I didn't know no better. And I flew out there. And he said he would pay me back after everything, which he did not do. He didn't pay me back for anything at all.
You want to say his name or no?
Jay Banger.
Okay. Where's my money?
Um, time to stop the F. He believes. He believes you got to got to. He believes that he's a hot shot and didn't want to use lube when I asked. So it hurt.
He hurt you?
It hurt a lot. And I was faking it the whole time.
Did you shoot? Where did, where did you shoot at?
We were at his. We were shooting in his little Airbnb.
Okay. Okay. Got you. And he, he was just, he was [ __ ] without lube. And I was like, so like mad that I was just dry. And and I just, it hurt a lot. And he kept going. So how he able to have? He was trying to spit and he was like, "Oh, yeah, you like this, baby? You like this?" And I would just fake it because I didn't know what else to do in that situation. And then two is when I arrived, he, I told him I wasn't tested yet. And then he was like, "Say, oh, I trust you. I get tested all the time anyway." And I was like, and I was trying to, I was trying my best to avoid doing anything because I kept telling, "I don't have a clean test right now. I don't want to give you anything if I do have something." And kept saying, "Oh, I trust you. I, I really wanted to [ __ ] tonight." Like, blah, blah, blah. And I'm just like, I didn't know what to do.
So is it fair to say he caught you at a vulnerable state? 'Cause you, he flew you over?
No, I flew myself. So I was spending all my money to get over there because you were attempting to get on the Bang Bros. Brush.
Bang [ __ ]. You could have came. You could have came and holler at me. I probably could have helped you get that done. It wouldn't have cost you a dollar. I know the person that drive that mother. You heard me. Time to stop the F. Yeah, he was also annoying. Like I get on FaceTime with my friend, next thing you know, he's putting in his own two cents. And then my friend would be like, "We already talking to you." Like, and I had to like turn down my volume 'cause I'm like, "She's not here, you know, dealing with what I have to deal with." And it was a mess. I wanted, I've never hated a a man, a male performer, or man, him like a man so much in my entire life. And I was stuck with him for like almost two weeks.
Why?
'Cause I didn't have anywhere. I, I didn't have anywhere else to go.
So you were staying at his house?
I was staying with him. Yeah.
So he let you stay there and he was having sex with you every day, wasn't he?
No, but he was trying to. But I would be like inching away. Like the first night I, I got there, put his whole body on me.
But why would you stay there for two whole weeks? That's what I'm trying to say. You got to understand how the viewer going to think. So he kept, he, so when I got tested, my chest, for some reason, I don't know what the heck was wrong, did not come back for three days. I, I don't know what happened. But my test did not come back for three days. And so we were waiting and waiting for to shoot. And then got postponed. And then he kept saying, "Oh, I, this shoot's coming up." And then we get postponed or canceled. The shoots coming up with Pain Bros.
Yeah. So you couldn't. I only got one shoot. Hold on. You have an agent?
Yes.
Right now?
I do.
Okay. You didn't have an agent at that time?
Oh, you had an agent at that time?
No.
Okay. So how, oh, so you were really trying to. You put a lot of faith in him to get you on the Bang Bros. And you didn't have nobody else? No girls? Nobody you can holler at and put you down with a director or something?
I wasn't close to anyone.
And you, how, how long had you been in the game when this occurred? Like, new?
It was like right after, like during COVID, kind of after COVID, summer, kind of is like. So I think both of y'all were new at that time 'cause he's not been in the game.
Right. I would need to look at. I would need to look at my calendar. So you said he owes you money. Why does he owe you money?
Because he said that he would pay me back.
And he never did pay you back for ticket?
Okay. And then the content you, you guys shot? 'Cause you, I'm sure he shot for his OnlyFans or his shot content. And did you get money off of that?
I didn't use it.
Did he use it?
I don't know.
What do you mean, you don't know? You don't find out if somebody's using content with you to make sure you get compensated for that?
I just don't remember what we did with it. I know I deleted it 'cause I was so mad. I deleted all, all of my side. I don't know if he still has his stuff. If it came out.
Do you think you would have known?
Um, I don't think I signed release papers for it. So I mean, like I'd be like, "Can you take it down?" Since obviously, you know, you know, like, "Take it down," or something. But if I signed papers for it, then I don't have any right to just tell them to take it down.
I get it. I appreciate your honesty. Umo. It's been a while since you've had sex with someone that wasn't an adult performer. Has it been a while?
Yes.
Yes?
Yes.
Okay. I don't really do that. The thirstiest thing you've seen a man do to you?
I don't know. Like an example? Like what do you mean thirsty?
Like, sending you dick pics or just when they see you, just trying to, just being over aggressive.
Or I call that thirsty because you're so desperate, you're willing to make up lies.
I got you. I got you. I sense. I got you. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Honestly, that other than that, I kind of usually men kind of keep their distance with me because of how I act with certain stuff because I just don't tolerate it.
What does Zerilla Sky say to an 18-year-old girl who's contemplating on becoming an adult performer?
Do your research. That's what I hear a lot.
Do you think that 18 years of age is too young to be an adult performer?
No.
Because?
No, because I wanted to do it. I did my research prior and I still wanted to do it when I was 18.
I turned 18 and I was like, "Oh, I." That's a baby. Yeah. But I feel like if you do your research and you know what you're getting into.
But how do you know if you haven't been in it? If you don't have somebody holding your hand and saying, "Hey, this is what's going on." Most performers, and they are a little older than you, they all say 18 is too young. I've had a male performer tell me personally, he thinks it should be 24.
I think it should be 21. 18, you're just coming out of high school. You haven't heard a real job. You haven't been in society. But you're going to go in a room with grown men and have sex. You understand what I'm saying?
Well, the logic. Well, yeah, but like, well, like some people got to make money. And if I wasn't able to get into sex work, I don't know where I would be right now.
H. You'd be working a job like other human beings in the world. I'm talking about like depression and all that.
Depression? What to work on 9 to five?
No, what's the depression? I'm talking about like when you're so, when you're so depressed that you, that you can't go in and and do physical stuff. Like you're, you're so sick to your stomach that you, you literally just can't get up.
Sick from what? Like being heartbroken? Trauma from family and friends? Sexual trauma? Doesn't have to be sexual. I'm talking like general trauma.
But, but okay, that's life. That doesn't mean I'm gonna go shoot porn. Now, you understand what I'm saying?
You do porn because I want to be an adult performer. I like that. I, I want to do that. I want to be a porn star.
I, I get that part of. I feel like that, that it's, it's a split. It's a split side. Maybe maybe some people coming coming to porn traumatized and some people just really love sex. Right. And that's what I'm saying. There's nothing wrong with that. But at the age of 18, you're saying, "Well, you're depressed." I'm, I'm, I'm going based off of what you said to me. You're saying, "Well, if I'm depressed and all that, okay, well, where am I going to? I need money." And da da da. Okay. There's other ways to get money in life. Why? You know what I'm saying?
I'm not saying that when you're depressed, you do sex work because of it.
I know you're not saying it. Are you sure? Because I'm positive. But you said, "I'm trying to say." You said, "You did your research." But at the age of 18, how much research can you? You know, it's just like.
Well, I would watch documentaries. I would watch people's Twitter posts. I would watch movies. I would read articles. I would try to get as much information as possible. And then when I was able to go to AVN for the first time, I was able to get more information. So, and then when I was able to try it, like do a scene, do content with someone, I was able to get a little bit of a feeling for it. So I'm saying like, I was testing it out and doing my research if this is something I wanted to do.
Oh, so you actually started performing. Wow. But that's not once you've done it. I, I had Dre say to me yesterday, "Once you do one film, that's it. It's out there. It's over. It's no coming back." Right? Okay. All right. So you have to understand that what, what you do is out there forever. Like there's no going back. This isn't just some quick money thing, right?
But what I'm saying is when you come out of high school, you haven't really been around like that. You might have worked a part-time job. You're in school like that. Now you're going and then you're in Hollywood, right? So you're dealing with all these savage. There's so many predators and all that. I feel like if you're 21, okay, you got another mango season up under your belt where you're a little bit more polished. So now you know, you know how to recognize certain bull crap with people. And when, you know what I'm saying? You're a little older. When you're coming out of high school, you're still kind of naive. You feel?
Yeah. You might be the special occasion 'cause you were exotic dancing in high school. So you, you know, you move a lot faster than most people. But you know, and I know, let's just keep it 100. Most girls that are 18 that get into adult entertainment don't know what the hell they getting theirself into and aren't ready for it, and they're going to get taken advantage of. Am I, is that a fair assessment?
Yeah. That's why I say you still like.
Do, but you're the exception. Yeah, I understand doing. I feel like everyone comes from different backgrounds, right? Like everyone's been through something different in their life, and then some people just want to be rebellious too. I had a girl that I interviewed, her name was Fiona Frost, and she had a full scholarship for graphic design. And then COVID hit. She was like a stewardess at the airline, if I'm not mistaken, and she, um, she said, "Screw that, I'm going to go do more." To me, that's just being rebellious. She had a mother and father, everything was there, you know what I mean?
So go ahead. How that water taste? By the way, it looks cool. Bottle tastes fine. [Music] Okay, you know I'm messing with you, but at the same time, we're going to talk that [ __ ]. So I don't know. Go ahead.
Listen, I'm messing with you. The way my mental set up, I'm trying, you trying, I'm, I don't know. I feel kind of what? Talk to me. I don't know though. I don't know how I'm hearing things and how my head is. It, some of it seems like it makes me sound bad.
No, you don't sound bad. I just think that you're looking at it from your perspective and how you look at life. But I think you have to look at it as an average 18-year-old.
No, I'm not trying to mind. I'm not trying to [ __ ] you at all. What I'm saying is is that, okay, you're the exception. You probably came up a different way, like you said, you were adopted, you know what I mean? You kind of, you know what I mean, you've been around, you, you, you know, your skin is tougher, thicker than the average 18-year-old. Like you said, you were an exotic dancer in high school. You see what I'm saying? So you're more like polished, you know what I mean? I interviewed Angel Young's at 19 and she was wild as can be, but guess what? Her father died at a young age. She had to really get it on her own. So I don't judge her and I, and I respect her hustle, how she still went and got it, 'cause I know where she come from. I don't judge there's no adult performance because I know majority of them when they come from, they got to go get it. You understand what I'm saying? So I understand the hustle side of it.
So go look at me like that. All I'm saying is, I think adult entertainment should be 21 for people to get it and not 18. I just think 18 is too. I think you should be 18 with [ __ ].
Okay, that's you. Entitled to your opinion with research, okay? That's fine. But there's predators, there's a lot of scumbags, and you know what I mean? And an 18-year-old can't handle a lot of grown men. If he got rid of the preds, it would solve the problem.
Okay, well then y'all better tighten up. I mean, I've been having this conversation with all women. Why don't y'all have your own, uh, uh, what do you call it? Like the NBA has Players Association League? Why don't y'all have that where y'all got the women's league where we make sure? I don't know if you haven't heard what happened with Alexis Texas and, um, and then Avery Jane and all that. I spoke with Anna Fox earlier today about that scene they shot over there in Vegas. You heard about that?
Oh, you got to get in the loop. That's your world, not my world. I just see it. They was doing a bondage thing and they were taking. I'm again, allegedly.
You don't do bondage? Not yet. Okay. You should. You'll probably hear about it later, but it's, it's a thing going on. Um, if you could pick the mind of one individual, Zerilla, dead or alive, who would that be and why?
If I could pick the alive, if you could, if you could kick it and have dinner with somebody and have a, have a conversation, somebody that you don't know from a can of paint, dead or alive, who would that be? It could be personal, it could be celebrity, and [ __ ].
Well, I would say, I hate, well, I don't hate to say this, but like, I'm going to say Beyonce, but like for a reason. Why? The reason is because looking at her success right now and how big she is, I would ask her like questions and ask her like, what if, if you could tell your younger self, um, tips as a kid that you think would help you now? What do you think it would be? You know, and stuff like that. Like I would ask her questions of how she got to where she is now because she's so big and successful.
Okay, yeah, Beyonce. Well, she's successful because it takes more than one person to be successful. So she has to have help, and she has talent, but there's, you know, there's other things that come in fact. It's not just that one person, you know what I mean?
Yeah, I see. Like there's a lot of people that are unsuccessful, but what I mean is like the way her, her fans go and do stuff for her, like the way that her, her base is and the way like the world like treats her versus like another higher celebrity in a way. Like it's like she's like a god in some type of realm type thing. And I'm saying like she has all this power, which is really interesting.
What do you do for fun? Work out, cross country, run track. I, I like to go on a hike. Oh, you like to go. Oh, you did. See, I did see that about you. You like to hike. Okay.
What's the end goal for you? What do you, what do you, what do you want it, what do you want it to be at the end, like as far as adult entertainment in my life? In adult entertainment, um, my end goal on adult entertainment is to, like, I don't know, change, change, change ways in some [ __ ] perform, like make, make a change in a positive light.
Based on how you moved, based on how I move, based on how you move in your time as being a performer, you're hoping that it creates some kind of change in a good way? Yes. Okay. All right. We're going to start. Moment of truth. Moment of truth is where I'm going to state things, and if I state something that is true, you say true. If it's false, you say false, and you can elaborate and tell me why it's false. You choose not to answer, you can say pass. Ready?
You all right? Yep. Okay. You listen to EDM music and route to a shoot, and route while driving to a scene, to a, to, to a production set.
Oh, I don't drive. Jesus Christ. It is time to stop the [ __ ]. You know what I mean? Right. Stop playing with me. When you on your way to go shoot, what are you listening to? EDM. Okay, so I said you listen to EDM music in route, meaning while you're heading to the production set. Ah, see that. Why sometimes weed goes both ways. That's why I ain't smoke with you. Yes. Okay. Yes, you do. That's true. Yes.
Your favorite location for the money shot is down your throat. True.
Okay. You a swallower or you spit it back out? I'm a swallower.
Okay. You swallow for anybody or not anybody? Okay.
You ran from a penis before? Yes. Who is that? I run away if, if it's too much. I could be anyone. Okay.
Doggy style wise, doggy style, you don't run. Missionary. Oh, you can't run 'cause you're on your back. I can back up. Been a while since you've had a condom in your vagina? Yes.
Okay. You do know how to put a condom on a penis? I let them do it.
Okay. You prefer a circumcised penis? Is that the one with the sleeve? That's no head, no sleeve, no hoodie? Yeah. Okay. So that's true. True.
You are not a size queen? True. You are not a size queen? No. Okay. All right. That's true.
If a man wants you to peg his butthole, he has sugar in his tank. He has [ __ ] in his. You be making me. You make me act like I'm not speaking English. When a man, all right, say you kicking it with a dude, say, all right, so say this. I'm going to use your boy that you, you didn't speak too fond of. If you say you there and you came in the house one day, you there with them two weeks, and you come in the house and he's got a strap-on. He say, "Hey man, I want you put the strap-on and stick it in my booty." Is he, have sugar in his tank in your eyes? Is he a [ __ ]? In my T? Sugar? Fruity? He, he's fruity. Hat it. It. You understand what I'm talking about? I haven't heard that term. Sugar. You just, just fruity. Like I don't know why I just said fruity. You should have said fruity from the sugar. But sugar, that's the same thing. It's sweet as fruity. It's okay. Fruity. Fruity. I usually switch it up. I usually say sugar. Fruity. Fruity. You don't think he got fruity? So, so, so if a man, that the man tell you to put a strap-on and stick it in his booty hole, you don't think he's fruity? No. Okay. So that's false. I mean, yeah, false.
All right. Did you spot over there? All right, I get. Okay, I understand what you're saying. You can get your rocks off that way. Yeah. It's, it's not for a man to get his rocks off, yeah, through penetration. It's not. But I stick bending over and letting somebody rail you in your booty hole. He, everybody reaches the top a different way. I got you. He, so that's false.
If you could turn back the hands of time, you would have handled a few situations differently with your career as an adult performer? True. What, what one of the? Give me the top situation you would have did differently besides going to Miami and letting somebody tell you they going to put you on the bankroll? Best. Um, I think it would have been maybe like burning my hair so much at the beginning. Like constantly, I was, I was constantly straightening it at the beginning, like constantly, and my hair would like fall out and all that. But now I don't do that and now it's able to actually grow.
Well, that's not that bad as far as something you would handle differently. There's more stuff. It's just that I can't think of it at, at right now, at the second. Like there's more deep, better stuff. I just mind fart. So that was true.
Um, trust doesn't come easily in the industry that you participate in? Trust doesn't come easily? Yeah, in the industry that you're in, you don't trust people easily in your industry? True.
Okay. What does it take for you to trust somebody? Them showing me what they're trying to tell me. So actions speak louder than words, is what you're saying to? Okay.
You might have answered this one already. You've had a male talent attempt to take you home for more sex after a professional shoot? No. Okay. All right. So that's false.
Zerilla Skies is in the building. Um, can you inform the audience and that's your camera to look at and talk to, uh, something rare about yourself or something we would never guess about you?
So I'm such an open book. Hold on. I need to think. Something rare, man. I don't care. It could be the most kinkiest, it could be the most simplistic, the most boring, the most weirdest. Give it to me. Like I had a girl tell me she had a jar. She, she collected pickles. Like she just had an infatuation with pickles and jars. Like something.
I mean, like something I don't talk about a lot is, I, I like to masturbate to guy solos.
Okay. What's a guy solo? What is a guy doing or, or futari?
That works. Say that again. Or futari. Futari. Yeah. Okay. I don't know your world like that. You got to tell me.
Futari is a anime manga hentai, basically in that realm. It's basically females with dicks, females with dildos on dicks, like dildo strap-on, no dicks.
So that's not a female then if they have a penis? Correct. Well, they're not, they, it, that's a [ __ ]. That's not what they call them though. Call, they call them futari. Call that's the millennial. I, I don't know nothing about that. It's, I don't know. It's different.
In, so you like to watch a woman? You like to watch a man dressed up as a woman? No. Or carrying, presenting as a woman, but have a penis and jack off? Is that, is that make sense? Is that, am I saying that correctly? No. No.
Okay, you got to help me out. I'm from old school. I, I said what it was. It's not futari. Futari is strictly like an anime. Oh, it's anime. It's a cartoon. Oh, okay. Okay.
Would you watch that in real life with a, with a, with a, with a chick with a dick? If she was hot? Okay. Well, he was hot. Well, if, 'cause if you got a penis, you technically still a man. If, if they're trans, that's a woman. Okay. If they identify as a female and they have. So that's your. That's how you. But that doesn't mean other people identify you as that. What, as a, as a, as a woman? There's some people in the world that live like, "Hey, if you have have a penis, if you want to be a woman, better cut your penis off." As long as you have a penis, you're a man to me. You understand what I'm saying? That's some people view it like that.
Oh, yeah. You understand what I'm saying? Just 'cause you, you want to dress as a woman and talk like a woman and move like a woman, but you're carrying a penis. If they still say, "Well, if you got a penis, you got to go piss over there with the men." At, how are you really a woman? Now, you can say what you want to say for yourself, but how can you say you're a woman if you still got to go piss in the men's bathroom?
I mean, not everybody has the money or wants to get surgery done. I'm not, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying we have. I have to play devil's advocate and say from the other side. Yeah, I know. And I, I know we're not getting into that. I'm just saying, so I appreciate you telling me that. I'm from the old school, man. So I'm still, you know, look how I look at it, you know what I'm saying?
It is time to stop the [ __ ]. Okay. Zerilla, hey, I used to be in the B CL. I all we'll debate after off the clock. Anyways, um, you want to let the people know what, what you're doing, what you're getting into, um, what to check out for you before we wrap it up?
Um, um, honestly, if you want to see me do hardcore, my, my dick jaw scenes are my best scenes.
Okay. That's the one you just recently did. What else you got? Um, check you out where? My OnlyFans. You can get some sporting content. Okay. Um, I don't have anything new that I know of coming out. I'm not shooting right now until my braces come off. So.
Okay. Yeah. Well, we wish you the best in your future endeavors, um, Zerilla. I hope you really do be, be all you want to be in this industry and, you know, you stay protected and, um, stay safe and, and then, um, you know, continue to grow. Thank Zerilla Sky is joining us on the Boobie Show. Peace out. We are checking out. 58 minutes. Damn. Was that long? How you feeling? Do you edit any of that?