His Web Bot Already PREDICTED The Globalist Fall & The Establishment BURIED The Evidence

Trump is finishing up the American Revolutionary War against the monarchists, against the globalists, the Frankists, the Prussians. He is indeed resurrecting PAX Americana. There's no better strategy than to let your enemy think that you're playing into his hands and doing his work for him. And so that's kind of what Trump's approach is. He's attacking Iran not because it's the Iranians. What his big issue is that they are a front for the city of London. And if the city of London, the bankers, told them to launch nukes at Israel, they would do so.

In the late 1990s, you designed a program that scrapes data off the internet based on the premise that human beings are psychic and the psychicness seeps out into our discourse. And then you designed the way of analyzing those conversations that turned out to be remarkably predictive.

And then I discovered they were deliberately polluting my data streams. Trouble to get anything out of. So it it was an attack. Cliff, thank you so much for making yourself available.

Sure. Sorry for all the problems.

Hey, not a problem. Not a problem. I'm actually quite I might look really calm, but I'm quitely thrilled after all these years because I've listened to you for many, many years. And actually, I'm going to start off if I do this properly, I may end up embarrassing you, okay? Which is start off by acknowledging you because one is I've learned a lot from you over the years, right? And I believe many many many many I don't know how many hundreds of thousands of people whose lives you've impacted through what through some of the really wacky way out ideas that you've presented that have been really useful as well. Right. So thank you very much for that for the difference that you've made and the difference you've continued to make. Now I'm going to start with a

You're welcome. Thank you. I'm going to start with uh so when I've been following you for many many years, listening to all your stuff, then I noticed a few months ago you started reposting videos uh with Tom Luongo who's been a guest on my channel for over 9 years and then also the Prometheian action team, Susan Kokindo and Barbara Boyd. And they're of the opinion that Trump is out to impose the American system of political economy and he's out to fight the globalists. And I share that point of view. So I wanted to ask you so so do you think Trump's going to be successful in that in that undertaking? Why do you repost those ideas? Is it something that you agree with or something?

Yes. Okay. So um until recently I've been hesitant to uh reflect Tom's material for fear of polluting his audience with my presence because I'm on the woo side of things, right? He's very much a practical economist kind of a guy. But he was straying into areas that I'm very familiar with and I agree that uh with his opinion that um and with the iron colonel uh the the iron eagle there um that Trump is uh is finishing up the American Revolutionary War. Okay, against the monarchists, against the globalists, the Frankists, the Prussians, however you want to think about it. And to do that, he had to be very strategic. And I object or no I don't object. I wanted to enlighten the vision of those people that saw it just as Trump being hoodwinkedked by Jews in Israel and going for perpetual wars. That is not the situation at this time. It's going to appear that way for perhaps another 10 or 12 months and then we'll be into an entirely different phase. He is indeed resurrecting Pax Americana as seen by that famous Englishman who turned against the monarchist Mr. Payne and who said the American political economy needed to spread across the planet. And I believe that Tom that uh Trump is doing that. I know for certain that he's attacking what I call the city of London, which is the banking center. again, it's just a um uh an arm of or a point of attack from the Prussians, the globalists, however we want to call them, right? And so I do agree with Tom. He's a very astute analyst. I agree with Prometheian action, the um uh they have a strategic understanding that is a broad vision, right? And you can't fight uh an entrenched global uh entrrenched like dug into our social order enemy without a very strategic approach to it all that may frequently because it's to your advantage reflect old past behaviors that they used to control. So there's no better strategy than to let your enemy think that you're playing into his hands and doing his work for him. And so that's kind of what Trump's approach is, right? He's attacking Iran not because it's the Iranians, although there are aspects of the, you know, the radical Muslim stuff he doesn't like and the nuclear bombs and all of that, but he knows that they're not their own master. So he doesn't doesn't really care, I don't think, about uh individual Iranians dealing with nuclear power. What his big issue is that they are a front for the city of London. And if the city of London, the bankers told them to launch nukes at Israel, they would do so, right? In order to not for their own interest, they would just be dupes and would just do it and it would serve the city of London in this perpetual war erode humanity. And so I call it the city of London, but there's something behind that, right? There's a layer of hierarchy behind that that Trump can clearly see and that's his targets. And ultimately the enemy on the other side of them that controls all of that is his enemy. And that's my view on it.

Right. Okay.

And that's shared by Tom.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And I agree. He's a really really astute analyst. I don't always agree with him. I don't always catch up with him like but I'll wait and see how it plays out. And invariably over time he has turned out to be accurate.

He has like okay I need to listen to this guy. I'm actually and and I'm sure he's going to watch this because I'll let him know. But I'm actually grateful to him that he graces my channel as as often as he does. Okay, now you I'm gonna go.

He's a very smart fellow indeed.

He's a very and actually I'd say the same about Trump. I think people misunderestimate him. He he you cannot cannot get to where he is with all that opposition that he's had to deal with without being really really smart. That's my opinion. Okay. Now I'm going to say a little bit about your web bot, what it is for people who don't know, but you I think in the late

Very strategic.

Yes. In the late 1990s, you designed a program that scrapes data off the internet based on the premise that human beings are psychic and the psychicness seeps out into our discourse. And then you designed a way of analyzing those conversations that turned out to be remarkably predictive. And then at some point 2016, because of the censorship that was being imposed that started creeping in, the data that you were drawing upon became polluted. But prior to that, it was really really accurate. And I remember some of the um predictions that you'd made that completely boggled my mind like how like the rivers in the sky that you talked about and a few months later that happened and then what you said about Bitcoin and stuff, right? So I do recommend people go and check out Cliff's work and I I'll link to his stuff, his ex on the description in the description below and that's really the best place to find him and also your Substack. But I want to talk to you about um the stuff that hasn't come to pass and in particular some of the stuff you said last year because it's it's and and mostly why I want to talk about it is because I wanted it to come to pass and it didn't. Right. So one of the things you talked about I remember you did a podcast about sigh waves.

Okay. So it's a question of they have yet to appear. Okay. It's very muddy when you're looking at preient language. All of this is is uh derived from the emotional import of the words. So it's all emotion. Okay? It's not the actual it it a connotation has the definition of the word with your emotional attachment to it. And I was after the connotation. The connotation had all of that. It had those remarkable hits like the Costa Concordia, the ship that fell over and all of that, right? Absolutely uh blew me away. But uh a lot of it there there is no way to affix time to it. And that's why I say it has yet to mature.

Right. Right. Whoa. I I was looking forward to the sigh waves thinking, "Oh, that's going to let that happen soon." And then the other thing you were going

I think those are next year.

Okay. Okay. Good. I I'll wait. Right. I'll wait. Then the other thing you talked about was when Doge were going through the US departments that they were going to discover all these dollar printing machines. more than they announced. So that hasn't come out. You also talked about Bitcoin being would be a million dollars in 2026. It looks way off that right now unless there's some sort of miracle. And then also about Veritasium. Now for those of you

it's okay at the time of that prediction. Yeah. No, no, it won't.

Right. Okay. So here's here's a few issues about all of that. um the data sets present a a pristine view of things which I have to interpret through my own brain and extract out of everybody's uh information and so but that pristine view is is not to be taken as being held and permanent. It's in the constant motion changing changing changing. I just have a snapshot of it. So that so I believe I'm firmly convinced that Bitcoin will rise well over a million dollars. I now know this that it is a necessary factor in Trump's strategy that we have this electronic uh settlement vehicle for nation states and large corporations and that he's he's settled on Bitcoin uh for that and they will indeed present the situation such that that appears. Um Veritasium is another matter. Okay. So at the time that the Veritasium uh forecasts were presented, it tracked for a while after that through the early days of Veritasium and then some decisions were made that altered and should and then that was right at the time that I was being hassled by the deep state. They were making threats to me. Uh and that's and then I discovered they were deliberately polluting my data streams. Okay? And I had to go to all different kinds of trouble to get anything out of it. So it it was an attack. They were they were trying to pollute the data as it arrived to me and they had found some of my source um some of my servers and were redirecting the feeds and all of this kind of stuff. They put some considerable effort into that. This was in that 2015 2016 period of time. Bear in mind that my worst year for cancer was 2017. They had uh the deep state had beset me with um SEC with um uh district attorney out of the southern district of New York with um uh prosecutors out of Washington DC anything they could to disrupt my activities in that period of time and I was dying of the cancer. I knew I was dying and at that point in 2017 I just let some things go. just did not bother to pursue what the deep state was doing because I didn't know how long I was going to live and if there was a point. Turns out I died in 2018. So that was sort of a wise decision. My wife was dying of her own issues. Had been um early onset Alzheimer's for eight years at that point. And so I just was just trying to get everything settled so that her last days after I had died uh would be more pleasant for her than the circumstances we had been in. And um and so I altered how I did things and then uh surprisingly I recovered from the cancer and came back to life and uh it's taken me a number of years to rebuild and then um I had to decide what I was going to do about things. Now the veritasium issue is this. There were decisions made on the part of the veritas or on the part of the government to steal Reggie's 98% of Reggie's veritasium right and there were decisions made uh against Reggie that affected him in the base of other political jurisdictions. They polluted these other political jurisdictions deliberately. They enticed him and presented attractive bait and he made some decisions that he and I had discussed. I disagreed with but it's his project and again I wasn't feeling all that well. It wasn't really my my fight but I knew it was at that point it was headed down to another path than what had been described within the data. So when those predictions came out the deep state had yet to take its interest in me. when they did take its interest in me, it altered that future. So this is this is something I wanted to discuss was the nature of our reality. And one of those is that everything vibrates constantly. Everything's in a state of change constantly. My data is a snapshot that it is good for while it is put out there and then for however long it persists. But that other decisions can be made that will alter the projected um uh future there. usually by altering the emotional balance that's that's held in these subjects by all these people. And the this is part of the deep states understanding and learning from my work. And they learned that if they were to cause emotional change in large numbers of people, they could affect the um outcome of some of these predictions. they could sort of derail them a little bit because our universe is not as people would describe to you where uh we're set on a timeline that's linear, anything like that. So, so a prediction is a prediction of that moment for whatever moment it's projected and that's it. That's as far as it goes. If it ever reaches that moment of manifestation, it can't and it's an if because it can be interfered with. And so, so um so I go I go to a store. This happened to me recently. I go to a store. I hadn't been there in a while. There was a young man and and two women that were getting their carts and choosing some vegetables out in the front of it. And off to the side was this um schizophrenic individual or a drug addict or whatever who was doing um karate moves, flips, turns. He was pretty good. He's very thin. I was walking up in the parking lot seeing this from afar and I knew what was going to happen. My brother was a schizophrenic. I've had lots of contact with schizophrenics as you have, I'm sure. And there and he was attempting the schizophrenic in my opinion was attempting to be aggressive to the point where he could just present himself in close proximity to the young man and the two women and the young man would give him money. I don't think the young man was of that inclination because I don't think he was rich enough to just casually hand off money and would have it would have caused problems. I did not know that there were two policemen pulling into the parking lot when this occurred. And I um but I knew what was going to be the outcome of this schizophrenic individual and this this uh this group of three people. And so as I'm walking on up, I got a $50 bill out of my out of my pocket and um I walked on up and he was just the schizophrenic was just coming over to where he was going to confront these people and I just pointed at him and said in my dog command voice, "No, this is not going to happen." Right? And then I held up the $50 and that's all it took to derail that situation. That's kind of what the deep state does, okay? They come on in and they strategically alter the balance of the dynamism of that particular moment in order to hopefully cause the effects that they want. In this instant, I didn't have to fight the individual. I held up the the options. I'm an old tough looking guy. I said no in a very firm voice, but I held out the the carrot to him, the $50, which he took, and he left. And the cops congratulated me on defusing it all. Right. They didn't. They were had apparently been called by the store to come and and deal with the disturbance. And I I was unaware of all of that. I was just going in to do some shopping. Uh Heidi needed a few things. I needed a few things. And so I was just doing it as long as I was there and in that town. And so it works that way. That's the way that deep state worked. They did that kind of thing to to Veritasium to Reggie. In my opinion, what they did was they created the circumstances in which an organization could form around Reggie. And when an organization forms around an individual, even if he's the leader, he loses control. Prior to that, Reggie was 100% in charge of everything, did it all, he's a very intelligent man that way, technically astute, and so on, but perhaps like myself, not so much socially astute, and he didn't realize that he was being played uh because everything was coming his way. So, it's easy to feel good when everything's coming your way and organizations seemingly appear out of nowhere to build themselves around you. And this is why I'm not an organization guy. This is why I'm an isolated loner individual. I won't have those kind of organizations because that takes away your power in all the situations. And that's what happened with Veritasia. Will it resurrect? Perhaps there are circumstances under which that can happen. It won't be easy and it won't be immediate. All all of these things will change in crypto world between now and December of 2027. And I expect to see some pre some remarkable activity that reflects uh the previous rises of Bitcoin after 50% um uh reductions, right? Deflationary periods. Bitcoin has this and and actually I think the deep state's doing us a favor, the hodlers, by making this occur in a shorter period of time because usually after a 50% retracement ahead of a havinging, it takes two years. I don't think it's going to take two years for this um the rebuild on that.

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That's interesting. Okay, two things. So, one is I understand it and I get how everything conceptually everything is vibration. Everything is vibration. Everything is vibration. You and I vibrating. There's stuff between us that's vibrating. And then if something happens over here and if you can see my hand, right, but something happens over here that affects the vibrational field, well, that will have an impact on whatever you thought or your web bot thought or I think is going to happen and that can alter the direction. So, I get that. But then there's something you're saying about the deep state that I wonder about. So the city of London killed McKinley, killed Lincoln, possibly FDR, possibly JFK from the stuff that I've looked at.

No, certainly JFK. Yeah.

And and now we're looking at Donald Trump up against them. He's up against a really smart, strategic, highly evolved um enemy.

No. In my opinion, no.

Um Okay, so this is part of of the thing. Um there are these uh all right I'll say it one way and then we can get into the meat of it all. Um things are not always as they seem. Everything has a time and a and a nature. The universe in in our materium works in pendulums in in pendulum swings. And the deep state is on the downward side of that swing. Right? They're they're losing power just naturally because they've been in in effect for so long. The pendulum rose. They had their peak and now it's swinging back and going the other direction. All right. So, so there is that the enemy was weakening on its own when Trump appeared. And let us note that that the conspiracies are true and factual in my opinion and that Trump is not acting alone. Okay? Trump is the uh the point man for a very large group of very strategic thinkers probably backed by AI that understands the enemy. the Frankus, the Prussians, city of London, etc. They know that enemy is weakening and they're taking advantage of all of this. So, it's not what you would think in terms of a big robust enemy that Trump has to fight. Also, there are uh cautions in the language uh between these enemies, between Trump and all of the people that he fights. In those cautions, he has presented language that they understand that his death unleashes holy hell on them that that the world that his death would create is not the world that they can manage and control. In uh in the world in which Trump is assassinated, um the heads of uh of the British government will be decimated by homegrown they'll call them terrorists, but I'm saying patriots that will simply assassinate them. They'll be stabbed. They'll be hauled off. They'll disappear. The individuals within the deep state are not as you and I. They have no personal courage. They are chosen for their roles because they're easily manipulated. Look at all of the people that you see in any government anywhere. They are weak. They they can't stand pain. They can't take criticism. And and their minds reflect all of this. It's another aspect of their whole organization uh weakening. So they know that if they take out the one

sorry Cliff how can you describe K starmer and Ursula Vanderlayan and Kaakalis in those terms? Those are those are political giants. How sorry I'm joking with you Cliff.

Yeah. Yeah. But they're they're a political giant because of the organization underneath them. Not because of their own personal magnetism, charisma, intellectual power or physical power. Right. Or

and so this is the reality of the world that we live in. Right. They have no integrity.

And here's the thing, none of these people that are uh what I call body criminals, okay? So, there's there's intellectual criminals that are that are uh stealing, doing bad things for an intellectual purpose, a goal. There are the other class of criminals which is the majority of them who are responding to their own internal personal drives and they become criminals especially body criminals. Drugs, sex, uh power, death, trafficking, all of that is to satisfy a thing arising out of their body. That makes them very weak because they're susceptible. They they respond to those those waves of stuff coming out of their own body. Trump's people know that to influence these evil [ __ ] all they have to do is to upset the energy balance, the vibrational balance, the tone within that body, and they can make them ever so fearful. There was that British guy that I can't think of his name. I'm terrible with names and personalities, but there was this high high ranking, maybe he's a prime minister, used to have a young boy brought to his yacht on a weekend, and they would go out sailing off the coast of England. He would rape the boy. He'd give him a good dinner, rape it, and then he'd throw him over the side. And then the next and when they came back, the boy was not there. And so these individuals are responding.

Yeah. Ted Heath.

They're responding, right? They're responding to their own body needs, which makes them very weak. Right. So I'm a fighter. I've done karate, wrestling, all kinds of fighting. And I love facing a bodydriven opponent. So I've been shot, stabbed. I've got over 3,000 sk uh stitches in me over my life. I understand pain. I welcome pain. It's just a sensation. The deep state guys are not like that. They're very fearful of anything upsetting their internal balance of vibration. And this is an aspect of these seven algorithms that guide our reality, that control our reality. They're actually called the the seven governors. And these seven governors are some of the most ancient information you can ever find. Um, I'm of the opinion that there are books that are very old that have yet to be translated, have yet to see the light of day. I'm of the opinion that we'll find a giant stash, maybe a quarter of a million to a million volumes of books, uh, hidden in a probably a monastery, but hidden in a cave sealed up, and they've been sitting there for perhaps 10 or 12 thousand years, and this will come out. The deep state is desperate to find these that they not come out. However, the oldest recorded um book that we have is called the Hymn of Adapa. The Hymn of Adapa predates the anything in the Bible by thousands of years. Yet, it has the entire Bible story. Every damn Bible story, major Bible story comes out of the hymn of Adapa. I think there is. And then right after that in terms of our chronology and understanding come the um comes the um hermeticum the the teachings of Hermes the corpus hermetica. Okay. And in that they have described our reality. Now I came across this when I was a young man and um didn't believe it. I read the Hermes and I thought it can't be that simple. And so I've spent since I was about I came across it when I was like 19 read it completely several times in my early 20s and since about 22 until now age 73 I've been applying first principles thinking and I have recreated in my own mind all of the seven governors the descriptions of them the hermetic uh principles. Uh I didn't just accept what I'd read. Um if someone wants to get involved with it, the best uh thing available is the kyalon. This is a a um encapsulation. It takes out all of the ancient language and presents it in a format that is more easily understood by the modern mind. And in there they discuss what we now call the simulation theory, right? That we all live in a simulation. And it has come to me recently uh because I'm a programmer uh technician that a good way to think about this simulation about our reality is to consider that it's a simulation. Now I know that it is not but there's no difference between what it is and a simulation. So there's no difference. So you have to ask yourself on a simulation theory paradigm what's on the other side of the simulation? Bunch of old bald guys and computers running an AI and we're all subprocesses within the AI. That's that's a good way to think about these things because it allows you to do an analysis that that can aid you in guiding your life. Right? If you discovered that there were seven algorithms that controlled our reality, whether or not you considered it a simulation, it would be good to know those seven algorithms and to be able to use those in your reality. And these seven um algorithms are described as the seven hermetic principles within the hermetic principles themselves. They call them the governors because they provide us the they provide this this simulation or this reality with the governing principles that affect all of our lives. They're they're really easy. They're very straightforward. We've discussed one of them. Number three, the law of vibration. The principle the governor of vibration. Nothing is static ever. There's no such thing as rest in anything in our reality. The first one is mentalism. The second is correspondence. As below, so above. They reflect each other. Number three is vibration. Nothing is at rest. Number four is polarity. Everything has an equal and opposite. Okay? And the opposites are always equal in terms of intensity and everything else. Up, down, right, left, etc. You can't have one without the other. So how do you define left without having a right? Right? How do you find life? Define life without death. At any level, you can apply any of these principles and derive factual information about our reality if you if you use first principles thinking. Number five here is rhythm. Everything flows in and out. The pendulum. Everything has a waxing and a waning. You have power at one point and then the universe provides that power fade away for a lot of reasons. And we can get into the reasons if you want. And then there's uh number six which is cause and effect which we call karma. You know, you kick someone in the nuts, they're likely to smack you in the face. And then there's gender. Everything has gender. So, there is a difference and the necessary difference between male and female, and it must exist. And so, these seven governors were identified uh undoubtedly in many previous cycles, but for sure they were identified over 10,000 years ago because we have um symbolism that reflects the appearance of these governors showing up all around the planet. And we know the carving in the rock was put there 22,000 years ago. That sort of thing. The painting on the cave walls from the Neanderthals in in the southern France. All seven principles are are put there in the symbols. They were thinking about it. And so um so I'm a very much a a follower of the kybalon or the seven hermetic principles because I use these algorithms in dealing with people just as I knew that that schizophrenic had his own issues. He was being generate. It was all being generated by whatever it was within his body. Natural mental upset, drug induced. It didn't make any difference. All I had to do was to change the flow, change the the dynamic that had been set in motion, cause that attention to be shifted and present the reward, the offering in order to get the the situation to diffuse itself. So, this is what Trump does very very much. And I think it's not I think Trump is brilliant. I think he's uh perhaps one of the greatest certainly is the greatest political thinker I've ever encountered in my 73 years. Right? But I don't think he's alone. I think he has a uh serious group of uh very deep thinkers that provide him with the basis from which these incredibly intricate strategies are uh derived. And we're living through this. And he he can and he frequently points this out. He points out what he's doing, right? the trolling, you know how he trolls people, he's telling them in their face, but most most humans are not going to get it. The reason most humans are not going to get it is because as the Gita says, humanity is divided into quarters. And basically threearters of all humans are simply in a growth process to become more human. And only one quarter of all of humanity has evolved to the point where they are self-aware, self-monitoring of their own thoughts and are uh able to choose as an adult their own path as opposed to reacting to the trauma of their youth, the circumstances they're in and all of that. I'm sure in your work you have seen those people that live in absolute horrendous circumstances yet are the most calm centered uh caring individuals you're ever likely to come across. They're going to be rare. I grant you because they're already rare being in that last one quarter. You and I are both in that last one quarter. those people that have evolved enough that we're on our own life path, not 100% dictated by our physical bodies and the circumstances that that we have there. And so this is this is an interesting observation that one makes. You you find yourself you put yourself in a in a one of these slots and you make decisions about who you are and and where you are in your growth pattern and so on. It can lead to and frequently does lead to people having giant um uh religious experiences, getting grand egos. Think of David Ike when he first started coming out and had his first enlightenment experience. He was wearing the jumpsuits and all of that, right? He was involved in the the the uh dynamic expression of it in that moment, right? And he evolved over time, but his basic core has not changed. our reception of it has certainly and so so David Ike is up there in that one quarter and we we outside observers can have a um marker for his personal journey in his life when he started doing those television shows when he had had that conversion from soccer hooligan into uh his spiritual experience right and that's overwhelming it's it it destroys you to have that experience and that's the the need of it you have to rebuild yourself from that the way I had to rebuild from cancer. It's not an easy thing and there if you follow the hermetic principles and you apply first principles thinking uh you will become tougher that which does not kill me makes me stronger and it will sharpen your thinking. It will provide a level of precision to your thinking that is can be quite lethal to uh those people that might intend otherwise. Another thing about this is that those people that have a tendency to to see themselves in that last one quarter uh or the the high up up one quarter of humanity, however you want to think about it, the aware one quarter, they in my opinion, they have a tendency to to become um the majority of them um become lifeaffirming. Well, they're all life affirming, but become life uh supportive, right? And so they wouldn't they're not corruptible really. Uh you know, you can bribe them. You couldn't bribe me. it's no point. I'm not going to take your money because I know the the nature of the reality, right? But those people that can be bribed, you know, automatically are within that 75%. Maybe they're in that that upper section of that 75%, but they're still directed by their reactions, their trauma, you know, everything a human goes through to get to that point.

Okay. But isn't there a risk that if I assume that I'm in the one quarter when I'm not and then I rob myself of my own opportunities of growth like I think that I'm in that quarter but really I'm I'm not.

No, you will drift in and out. Okay. So it's not a it's not a steady state. Everything vibrates. Everything changes constantly. I will have thoughts that lower me down. Um I'm I'm into the metacognition. So I'm I manage my thinking in real time and can adjust as I'm going along. So I'm I'm somewhat rapid or or risen above that. There is that assumed and presumed risk, but in reality it never manifests. Those people that get involved with the ego rapidly descend and and then they run into the problems that they bring on themselves dealing with their own uh karmic issues and then have to refight their way back up. Sort of makes sense.

Yeah. No, I get it. I get it. That makes sense. Okay. Now, in terms of the hermetic principle and that idea, how about this? There is this certain reality. The only access that I have to it is to describe it through language and perhaps create it through language when I take on commitments or declarations like I'm going to cause this. I'm going to make this happen. Like for example, the declaration of marriage. You know, I've been happily married for uh 27 years. I better remember that. You were happily married until you forgot how long. And I tell my wife that she's also happily married so she doesn't forget. Right.

Right.

So I've got this theory this set of concepts for describing reality but it's as flawed as any other conceptual framework. Couldn't that be correct about the hermetic principles? Now there's utility in it can be useful

but that's not a flaw. You have to if you understand these principles and apply them to that idea also they will assist you in in seeing the clarity of it. Okay. So that that that is a flawed understanding of how all of this stuff works. Um you have okay so you have to start it it helps in my opinion I don't say you have to but uh it it helps to start with first principles. And so the very first principle in the hermetic uh understanding is that mind is everything. Matter does not exist. Everything else is an illusion. And this is because we have this concept. All right? Within the hermetic understanding, there is the absolute. Right? And within absolute, people will look at at the absolute and they'll only see a little tiny bit of it, you know, and they will say that is God. I've seen God and I've had this incredible uh religious aesthetic vision. And all they're looking is a little tiny bit of the of the absolute. It's not the whole of it in any way because we're all within the absolute. We don't exist outside of the absolute. Here's the ultimate problem for uh supreme consciousness for the absolute. Nothing is outside of it. It knows everything. And so, how can it know itself without being able to see outside of itself and and see itself reflected? It can't analyze itself. So, its approach was to create all of us. There's many other reasons we were all created, but one of them is to reflect back to it the experience we all have of the absolute itself. Yeah. Everything is mind. All right. All right. There's no there. Okay. So there's no matter. So since everything is mind uh and in the hermetic principles they say mind is the son of god and in the in the hermetic principles in the um in the uh hermetic corpus Hermes says uh that he was told by this um uh we'll call it a being an avatar whatever they call it poandrris the man shepherd um he was told that um we exist as mind ourselves but our minds are finite And that and so we'll never be able to understand the infinite which is the absolute. And in and being finite as soon as you recognize your mind as finite, you apply that filter to everything. And you so you always question your own understanding. And you will always examine your own understanding for greater and greater levels of revelation of what is actually uh physically or what is actually real, what is actually happening. And so this is using the hermetic principles. You can tell people that um and we're seeing it now. So you're seeing scientists all over the world that are saying, "Oh geez, simulation theory, matter doesn't exist. More space between atoms than real matter within them. And none of the matter is is and all the matter is moving constantly. And you don't know where an atom is until you actually go to look for it. And in fact, it may not actually exist until you go to look for it." So the neurons in my brain don't exist until someone cuts my head open to look for them. It's not necessary that they exist in order for me to function. And so this gives you a different kind of understanding of things. Since everything is mind, it's all illusion. Um our minds are we don't own thoughts. We never we can think but thoughts are presented to our minds. This is why the body people react as they do because they think that thought of oh I got to molest that child. I've got lust for that child. They think that's a real thought generated by themselves. It's an energy that they're susceptible to. So consider this aspect of your body. Your body. my body uh it's not an integral hole. It's mostly made up of bacterium. Without your gut bacteria, you die within an hour probably. Without the bacteria that circulates in your blood, maybe you'll live a week. And there's specific beneficial organisms that are throughout you. You're a network. You're a field. You're a field effect that clusters around a little tiny bit of consciousness that is loaned to you by the absolute because the absolute wants to know itself. This is a supposition. This is a conclusion that the absolute wants to know itself and that wants to know one wants to know the and it has created a conundrum. Okay. So the ultimate mystery is that the absolute had a thought. I am everything. I know everything. But is there something that could exist that I don't know ahead of its existence? Eight. And that is novelty. Could there be actual novelty? were all in a giant experiment by the absolute to see if novelty can manifest because the mere thought that novelty could exist was novel itself and set all of us on this trail the creation of universe and the whole thing there's no big bang there's no dark energy you can use hermetic uh understanding to prove to yourself with first principles that dark energy dark matter doesn't exist uh gravitons don't exist Um, gravity is not as we understand it. All of this is an illusion and we're approaching all of this from the wrong viewpoint and that's a captured viewpoint. As we were coming out of the last reset in the 1700s, we had the age of enlightenment and we were captured deliberately by the predecessors of the deep state in foisting the cartisian dialectic upon the natural philosophy and getting rid of the national natural philosophers Bosovich at all and replacing them with descart and all of the quote physicist or or solid scientists right which have a very limited understanding don't accept the idea A that everything is mental. They think so basically I call them grtologists because they're under the they're operating under the paradigm that if all life died the rocks, the dirt, the sand, the water would still exist. And that's not true. And we now know, for instance, that our own scientists with those with vision are proving that water is actually two liquids behaving in a particular way. That water indeed is the ultimate storage for what we call the AOSIc record. and that it does much more than that. Further, they've they've established the hermetic principle that everything vibrates and everything is within a consciousness field because they know that all life is connected between 005 hertz up to four hertz in frequency. The earth itself resonates at some point um 82 hertz. But we communicate telepathy telepathically uh with our between ourselves um and between ourselves and animals uh at uh usually around two hertz to four hertz. And you constantly are communicating telepathically. You're constantly leaking out in your choice of words the psychic impressions that are moving within your body and and moving the emotions to get you to say those words as part of this giant experiment. It is my projection and conclusion that we're moving into a point of if it were a play, it would be the the end, the denouncement of the of the play. We're coming up to a threshold. Many people have called this the singularity, but I object to that that term for many reasons, mainly because it's reductionist. But we're coming up to an aggregation and that everything will start and I agree with Terrence McKenna, everything is going to just get start getting so weird you can't believe it because we're in an accelerating path and it is necessary that we get to this point and then the space aliens will appear because it is necessary as an aspect of this.

They had to come, didn't they, Cliff? They had to come in this They've always been here, right? We are we are not alone. We've never been alone. All previous civilizations, all previous uh ages of men have had these companions. And it's my my understanding of things that the aliens will be communicating to us on these frequencies of telepathy point 0.5 hertz up to four hertz. And we should be monitoring those frequencies for disturbances because that's their attempt to discuss things with us to get a a telepathic bond with us and that that they're not going to be dialing in with radio or calling you on the cell phone, right? There's no point. They understand the hermetic principles as well as us. Now I'm not saying all aliens there's aliens that are far more dense and stupid than humans. But all alien civilizations will be in the same situation as the human situation which is described very well by the Gita as Krishna discusses Arjuna's um uh karma in the great battle in which he must fight his own cousins and why all this is necessary. And if you read the Gita with the understanding of of the modern term and take out all of the ancient language and the politics of the time, you see that they're discussing the hermetic principles of as above so below, the pendulum, the the motion, the gender, the polarity and everything. And it is necessary because these are the algorithms that govern our reality. whether or not you consider it to be a simulation. If you're a simulation believer, I have one question that you must answer in order for me to consider your perspective valid. What's on the other side? And so there's no matter. So is there matter on the other side of the simulation? Are we living within a great computer that is actually uh physical matter somewhere? No, it doesn't work that way. It's not necessary that that exists in this reality. and are um the absolute of which we are small

little contained parts. Uh, it tricks us all into believing ourselves isolated, such that we can have these experiences, so we can know pain and suffering and so on. This is not hell. This is not a prison planet. There's every decision you make does not spin off another timeline. None of that is pertinent. All that new age stuff is just [ __ ] and is a pollution to your thinking.

>> Bloody hell, Cliff. Many of the aliens know this.

>> Yeah. Okay. I, I don't even know where to go. Right. And by the way, you did post this tweet I thought was very kind that you said you didn't want to waste my time because I go deep. And I responded saying, "I'll try and stay shallow, but I don't promise how effective I'll be, right?" And at the fear and at the risk of becoming deep a little bit, I mean, I mean, what you said is incredibly profound. Incredibly profound. And one of the things I appreciate about you is how, certainly with me and I imagine many, many others, you stretch my brain.

So I >> don't put it on me. Don't put it on me. All right. It's, it's nothing I'm doing. It's not my >> You're the one right now who's communicating. And it may be coming through you or whatever. Ideas that are much, much older and larger than you, but you're the one who's communicating it to me. It's like, okay, right now >> and that's, that's what universe has placed on me, right? That's, that's my journey, right? That's my burden. This is not an easy thing to do. It has created a very strange life indeed and has made me as I am. And, um, I accept service. Okay. Once I understand that I am just a part of the absolute, then I understand and I accept that I'm in service of the absolute. So I declare myself to be samurai, which means to serve. And I serve because I am me. Not because of someone's need, not because I'm being told to serve, not because I'm being directed there, but because my mind says that this is the path that I need to be on. If they benefit, that's fine, but I'm not going to get emotionally involved if they don't. Right? Many people don't take my advice. And so I am kind. I let. So there's a difference between being nice and kind. So Heidi is nice. She doesn't want you to suffer. She would do anything she could to prevent you, um, your suffering. I'm not that way. That's been burnt out of me. I used to be that way for a number of years and it trashed me. Now I am kind. I am willing to stand there and let you, you experience the consequences of your own actions. That is to say, your karma. If you make a bad choice, that's your choice. Yes, I could probably intrude. Yes, I could probably make you have another, another choice. But for whatever reason, universe wanted you to make that choice and, and experience those consequences. Who am I to inter, intrude on your life and your relationship with the absolute?

>> It's okay. Even that is, is just an extraordinary concept and I'm not in any way disputing it. I, I do find it intellectually provocative and stimulating. So, thank you for that. Going to the aliens. So,

>> you thank me now, you'll curse me later. I won't do that on camera because I said to you beforehand that I'm respectful even of the guests I don't agree with who will bogle my mind. Right.

>> Okay. And, and that's not the case here. I'm just fascinated.

>> Well, okay. So, here's, here's the thing, right? Rich is a nice guy. Okay. And I recognize that in you.

>> Okay. But not kind or kind and nice.

>> I'm not nice. I'm kind. I'm kind.

>> Okay.

>> I can be, I can be nice, you know, and there would. All right. And, and to be honest, here's the thing. uh, in, I can see myself in situations where it would always be nice if Heidi was involved because I don't want her to experience that suffering in my presence because I would too, would take on that suffering. Right. But in general, I am kind.

>> Sure. Sure. And, and I would >> So if, if the schizophrenic had continued, I would, I would, right, I would do what I would have to. I would inflict pain in order to get him away and, and change the circumstances. He chose the easy path. It was easy for, for all of us. But under right circumstances, I can be brutal and effective in, uh, you know, in being an agent of change.

>> Right. Okay. And I can certainly see that about me in my work as a social worker because I've had to be brutal and like, I'm sorry, you don't get to have your kids with you. Let grandma look after them, cuz you can't give them what they need.

>> And how did you feel when you were doing that?

>> Oh, it was horrible. I never like removing children. Never ever like doing it. I'm a father. I wouldn't want it to happen to me. But to be done,

>> correct? And so, and so that's moving you on the path to accepting kindness as your nature and occasionally dipping into niceness.

>> Okay. All right. Well, just what you said about the universe putting you here and this is, it sounded to me like a self-expression.

>> It is.

>> right. Okay. That's very, very powerful when people authentically express themselves and who they are in the world and operate from that, cuz that has integrity. That's the wor, that is the worst aspect of, um, this particular path that you are on, as well as I, and that is that you have to continually refine yourself in your vision of yourself moving through the reality and it is difficult, right, very difficult to accept all aspects, even especially you get to this point as you're coming out of neness and you think, no, I can't say that, it'd be too egoistic, right? And so I don't bother anymore. It's factual. Right? Just as I say that, you know, I may have done evil deeds in the past, I will also admit to, um, potentially participating in great deeds and not take an egoistic aspect of it on either. I don't identify myself as a result of my actions. Most people do. The 75% of humanity identifies themselves with their behavior, with their race, with their thoughts, with some aspect that is not the absolute. Being a, uh, on the path of the hermeticum corpus, I identify, I apply first principles thinking to myself and position myself in every action, uh, within these principles in relation to the absolute. This, I think, this is the useful aspect of metacognition. Okay, metacognition is the ab, ability to see your own thoughts as they're forming and to change them rather than express them, to react to them internally and not necessarily let them out. It's very rare. It may be that it develops because of the concentration of the hermeticum and applying these principles to you. I can see how that has certainly trained my mind in thinking, especially these last nine or 10 years that I've rebuilt from cancer. Bear in mind, I died, okay? I was 128 pounds. I'm 182 now. You know, getting it back, right? It's not an easy process. That was not done by medicine. I fired my oncologist. I won't have anything to do with doctors. Um, and it was done by mind, by understanding that if every, so if, if you follow the first principle, if we are indeed, um, even if we are a simulation, if we are subutines within a giant computer somewhere, even then, everything about your body is created by your mind. Everything. The fact that I'm bald and you're not, all of this is, is from our minds. If I chose to put the energy into it, I could probably grow hair, right? There's no point to me. But, but so I built my body by using my mind to recover from cancer. And I'm very much along on the process now. Maybe I'll live another 60 or 70 years, given what is, uh, developing in our medical, uh, professions. Right? The, the medical breakthroughs likely will not be pushed down into the greater mass of humanity. Likely, even if we have medbeds, you're not going to see these kind of things being, uh, used in India, Vietnam, China, that kind of a deal. They'll be, um, necessarily controlled by the globalists who have the money and all of this, and it'll only be that upper one quarter that is self-aware, that seeks them out, that goes through the trouble, that would get to that level. The concept of a medbed is an artificial device that would alter your vibrations to get you to be able to return your body to a natural, more healthy state. Well, I did it without the medbed, right? I'm cancer-free. All of my last tests, there's not a single cancer cell within me. And even, even that was so astounding that the laboratory that got the tests and did the results contacted me to say, "Okay, we've never, ever, ever had a zero cancer cell test." Usually there's three to four cancer cells that we find in everybody, even if they're cancer free. We've never, ever, ever had a zero cancer test. What, what did you do to our tests? And so I did another one and another one after that, and they said, "Okay, it's legit, but we can't understand it." I think it's 100, I know it's 100% the way that I conduct myself relative to my mental attitudes about all of this. Bear in mind that cancer is just like any other aspect of your body. It is a cell. Many of these are part of your network. You can tune them. For instance, I knew from the time I was 23 that there was something wrong with me. And from 23 until 40, I saw it. I probably spent a quarter of a million dollars in, uh, insurance money seeking whatever it was that was affecting me. There was no visible signs of the cancer. Then when I'm in my 40s, it started showing up in little bits and pieces here. I had enough money working in the tech field. I got a private physician and I spent probably, uh, easily half a million dollars between myself and the, and the insurance on further tests trying to find it out. None of them showed any of it. It wasn't supposed to happen. I was supposed to go through this in that most extreme state and I was supposed to die in order to get that information through that process, that experience, in order that it might impact my thinking and my formation. So I don't take it personally. Universe needed this particular samurai to experience those particular hardships and it made me stronger, made me more me. Make sense? So I would never, I would never have those. I would never go back in time if that were feasible. Time is not a dimension. We can't do that. But, um, I would never, ever undo any of that. I would accept all of that suffering because of what it has done to me to make me as I am. It was a necessary part of this reality. And how many other 73 year olds, you know, recover from cancer, rebuild their body, find the love of their life, you know, much younger, gorgeous woman, agree to marry him, all of this kind of thing. So there's huge benefits to following your own path this way. And it started for me with Hermes and then eventually I came across the Kybalong. So the, if you read the Hermetica corpus, it's going to be difficult to understand unless you're attuned to reading ancient material. And I would recommend everybody that's encountering this information for the first time to simply go to the encapsulated version, which is the Kyalon. It's cheap. You can get free copies online. There's Kindle copies. There's probably dozens of print copies. And, um, and it's factual. It tells you what this reality is like.

>> Okay. At the risk of the repeating myself and then you've probably given me the similar answer to what you gave me earlier. The actors in the deep state would be aware of these principles. How do we know they're not using them and applying them themselves? And could it be because of something that you and I agreed on earlier? They have no integrity the way that they're conducting themselves.

>> And integrity is an outgrowth. It's not a state of being. Okay. So integrity is, um, is something that we analyze after the fact from behavior. So I'm not sitting here as an, in my integrity, but you get a particular action and I will act in an integrous manner. So you're correct. The deep state knows all of this. But because they're not self-analyzing and never apply any of these principles to themselves, they're not going to get it. They won't be able to effectively use it. This is why their magic has to resolve down to ritual. The, the, what do they call it? Spirit cooking. The blood, the urine, all of that kind of stuff, right? They think matter has power. They, they can only work through that. Their minds are limited because they don't apply these principles to themselves. They can't apply these principles to themselves without totally destroying their own, uh, view of themselves, how they operate and everything because it would show in sharp relief what real [ __ ] they are. Right? So, so, uh, you know, what happens when a deep state person takes enough psychedelics? They're no longer a deep state person. It changes them radically. If they were to apply first principles thinking and the, and the seven principles to their own lives and their current state of being, that would be as disruptive to their minds as a huge psychedelic experience and they would never be the same thereafter. So the deep state is in a bind. They know these things are extremely powerful. They try and use them as much as they can in a, a distance, you know, kind of a way. Sort of pushing it off as a computer or something, trying to do something in matter. But if you're trying to do anything in matter, you've forgotten the first principle. Everything is mind. And you need not involve yourself with the grit. All right? So, they are self-limiting just because of who they are. And they're in the deep state because it is necessary that there be evil in the process here, that there, it is necessary in this our environment that there are people that are working out their own issues that would present behavior that we would describe as evil. The murderer must murder, the rapist must rape in order that there are these permutations and ripples that will go out through the vibrations. So in my opinion, we'll never, ever, ever eliminate all crime. We can make the world a great, great deal less suffering, a lot, a lot better place, but it'll never, ever, ever be perfect. We'll always have to deal with these and we'll always have to work on it. So, liberty demands vigilance, right? Integrity demands self vigilance, constant. Is this action in, uh, correspondence? You know, as inner, so the outer. So if, if my action, so I could no more have walked past that schizophrenic then I could turn myself green in this moment, right? It is in my nature to be presented by these things and react to it because universe has presented this to me, it has put me in that situation such that I will learn and my actions within, in, within the schizophrenic dynamic there were for my own purpose, so very selfish. So this is another thing. If you get on this path, you are entirely self-directed. This is why Alan Watts and all of these great spiritual thinkers say concentrate on yourself. There's no greater thing you can do than to perfect yourself. And it is not egoistic, right? It is, it is a necessary aspect of these principles and, and it causes its own reproduction or, or own ripples, its own, uh, propagation. So that's why I'm doing these interviews. I don't, I don't sell anything anymore this way. I don't make money. I'm not motivated by material stuff this way. But I am motivated by this aspect of service that I've willingly bonded to. And I'll keep doing them as long as this body exists and as long as there are requests. I limit them because they're, they interfere with my life and there's other things I do. I have many projects going. Um, but, uh, I still do them because it is necessary. But there's many more people now like, um, many scientists that are coming up with these same conclusions from different viewpoints with their machinery and stuff coming to the idea that all is illusion. Consciousness is the base substrate. Matter doesn't exist. So they're on the right track, but they haven't gone far enough. They haven't abandoned, they need, in my opinion, they need to abandon materialism and get into mentalism, uh, and then proceed from there with first principles. So, as I said, it took me almost 50 years, but I've recreated and validated all seven principles, applying them back and forth, going into deep thinking on them, uh, you know, every single way I could, and they all hold up and I derived them on my own. And so, I'm not paring the hermetic stuff. I'm, um, expressing it. I'm living it because it is an aspect. These seven algorithms exist. Whether or not we are a simulation, it doesn't matter to me. If you think we're a sim, simulation, that's fine. I don't care. But the seven principles exist. If it's a, if it's a simulation, then these are algorithms that are created by the designers of the simulation such that certain things would occur within the simulation. I, I've programmed simulation. I've programmed neural networks that, uh, take the training obviously for my LLM and I understand this at that level. And there is value to thinking of ourselves as independent subutines that are spun off in a Unix or Linux style, uh, running on our own and having some access, access to central control. And in the, um, in the hermetic principles, in the very beginning of it, Hermes says that which that in you which sees and hears is the logos. It is the word, what we would say the word of God. Okay. Uh, your mind is the son of God because it is somewhat self-directed. So you have free will to the limits of the free will, um, um, dynamic within these seven governors. And so, um, it's necessary that there be free will. Debates over it don't really further us. It is as it is, right? And so this is why I think of myself as a pirate. Okay? There's no sides. There's no allegiances. There's no internal lowercase absolutes within our reality. There is only ourselves and our experience of it all. And we are experiencing not for ourselves, not to learn anything, but to have that experience go back up to the absolute so that it can learn about itself. And that's why we're here. It's, it's sort of a school, but it's not. It's sort of a prison, but it's not. It is what you make of it because it's all mental. If we were all to be, uh, perfecti like the the Cathari or the Jane, okay, these were people that were in their last lives and they thought they were going to live a perfect life. So they would even in ancient times, the Jane and the Cathari would wear masks so they wouldn't suck in bacteria and disrupt the bacteria's life. Kind of a wonky way of thinking. It's necessary that you do so, but nonetheless, this was an outward expression of their thinking about that. The perfect eye would get married and they wouldn't have children because it, it wasn't appropriate. These were the, uh, self-declaring spiritual leaders of the Cathari and the Jane currently. They have perfect eye as well. You'll also find them in other Hindu sects. You'll find them in Buddhist sects, etc. And, um, if we were all that way, it would be a different reality and maybe we would have a different reaction with the space aliens. But the space aliens are also in there, though. Many of them understand what I'm saying and they live within the same parameters that I live. So I might very well get a, a UFO and go tooling off into space and find some other civilization. Not going to [ __ ] with it, but I'm going to examine it and take what I can out of it. But it's not my place to intrude on them. Even if they're barbaric and killing each other or whatever, even if I thought I could correct it and aid their society, who am I to, to put my thoughts and stuff on their natural, uh, expression, right? I'm kind. They're going to, to experience their own karma. That's the only way any of us learn.

>> Okay. Thank you for bringing it back to space aliens. So,

>> this whole conversation about space aliens, this whole discourse, this is the way I look at it, right? So maybe there are space aliens and the deep state are going to say they're not. Or maybe it's a blue beam. Or maybe there are space aliens and the deep state are somehow going to capture that whole conversation to use against us. How do, how can I tell? How can any of us tell?

>> Maybe, it doesn't, it doesn't matter. It's, it's immaterial, right? There is no matter. So it's immaterial. So here's the thing about that. The deep state wants to do all of that because they're trapped in their body reactions. They want power. They want to be able to control all of that. So, they will indeed try and seize the conversation. They'll try and have a fake space alien invasion. I expect one of those at the end of next year. Um, but that doesn't negate real, uh, non-human intelligence. Aliens, whether you think they come from space or not. Um, all of things are within our universe are possible. Anything that we can conceive shall manifest. And, um, the manifestation process involves our own minds. Since we're constantly co-creating, there was never a big bang. The matter does not exist. Uh, if we all die, all matter goes away because there's no one there to perceive it. And thus, the absolute would simply get rid of it. So, at some point, it is, and we're at that point now. It is necessary that the perception of the space aliens of non-human intelligence be pushed down into that 75% of humanity. The, the 25% that is at the top recognizes that so many scientists and all these people, even government types with that are thinkers will say, yeah, it's quite factual that there's non-human intelligence, even if we don't have a UFO floating in front of us right at this moment, it is factual. It is necessary that we understand this reality that way. And there will be further layers and further layers and further layers as we go along. If you go back into the old Gnostic belief, they took it from the other way. They applied reductionism to the absolute. And this is where we get the term diamon or demon. Okay? This is where angels and all of this stuff comes in. Gods exist, but they're within the material. They're not the absolute. So you have to have a different understanding of the concept of God. Actually, if you read Benjamin Franklin in his debate in France, I can't remember the guy he debated with, he went into the deist position quite well and said that it is necessary that, that we all encounter the devil in order that we might understand the opposite because in hermetics, there's always an equal and opposite, right? And so it, it gets pedantic. It gets annoying as [ __ ] to run into someone like myself who always brings it back to these seven principles and will say, "Oh, you're just overlooking this particular aspect of things. Apply this principle to your thinking and see where it leads you." And so, a lot of people don't like talking with me because I constantly bring it back that way. You know, I'm fortunate that Heidi is a very intelligent woman and, and, um, accepts this. So even though she doesn't, you know, everything is fake to her and space doesn't exist, but when aliens show up, she'll deal with them, right? Doesn't matter if she thinks they're fake. We're all constantly manifesting them. We're co-creating this reality in this moment. So the things that you and I are doing now in this discussion, we can have no con, we have a very vague, minuscule concept of the ripples that it will cause, but we'll never, ever factually be able to understand how wide the effects and how deep they are, but we know that they will occur. There is a c, there is an effect that comes from every cause. We are causing effects now in this conversation and those, I think, will be quite remarkable because I try and choose my timing. I have a, an interest in, uh, the dynamics of expression at a level of time, mainly because I got a lot of the, uh, timing cues wrong in my early work. Bear in mind, I've seriously evolved how I think about all of this since 1993 when I first got that idea. And timing is its own issue. Time does not exist as a dimension. It is our perception of, of duration that causes us to think of time. But within that understanding, you get, okay. So within the hermetic understanding, you can get to the point where you have a view of yourself feeding, um, experience up to the absolute. Jesus called this the plleoma. He called the absolute the plleoma, meaning the abundant fullness, the source of everything. And if you read the Gospel of Thomas, there's a free version on my substack in which I've annotated, uh, focused on how to manifest. Uh, there's many clues that he talks about relative to the event stream. The event stream is continuous, constant. It never shuts down. It is this constancy of change. Everything vibrates. Right? Going back to that principle, if you understand that everything vibrates, and I've done 54 years of iikido, shinshen Sou iikido, um, you know that the way to deal with any physical attack is to just simply upset the balance, to intercept at an appropriate moment, the opponent's arm. You say, "Oh, here, take my hand." And you present them with your hand and let them have your hand. They think they're getting something that they want. All you're doing is, is intruding into the balance of the vibration of the energy. And one, and you know that once something is in motion, it's easier to keep in motion and then to direct the way you want. And so the deep state would love to have that level of effectiveness and skill, precision, and elegance. And they'll never get it because they're not self-examining beings. If you are self-examining and you apply these principles to yourself, you get to be very good at anything you should choose. And we're at that point now. I think that universe wants us to accept new challenges. That's why the UFO stuff is coming out. That's why there's the social pressure for it. Uh, you know, the suppression of it ran 120 years, 80 years really solid. They were good at it. They had us all laughing at the aliens, all of this. And that pendulum is swung back the other way. Again, another hermetic principle, right? And so what I like to do is I like to see where the attempt to see where the pendulum is and choose my moment to do things like this such that I will magnify that particular aspect of the swing just to see if I can, just to see if I can [ __ ] with it and have that much better impact, right? So in that sense, it's egoistic, in that sense, it's self arandizing. Oh yeah, I did that, look what happened. So, you know, and it's meaningless, absolutely meaningless, but it's, it's satisfying in the moment. It, it is ultimately, it is meaningless. It really is ultimately, but in the interim, in this material world or the materium, as you refer to it in your work, is it's a certainly for me, it occurs as a contribution.

>> Yes.

>> So it feels so good, you know.

>> Yeah. So, so, so I'm like, okay, well, let me see if I can integrate what Cliff is saying, Cliff's ideas, and then see how I can grow from incorporating them and where they may be useful for me in terms of fulfilling what I'm committed to.

>> And then take it the next step, make them your own and take it further than I have expressed.

>> Yes. Yes. Indeed. Indeed. Okay. Now moving on to, um, something in the material world because it makes sense to me that in, in your work, you talk a lot about what's happening in the US.

>> Because you live in the US and the whole world is impacted by what happens in the US, but here I am in the UK and it looks like our government is going to not my government, but this government is going to align itself closer to the European Union. So how do you see things shaping out in this part of the world?

>> It's very, it's very clear and it was even in all the old altar reports. Okay, it led to that horrific period of time when, um, so there's an, there's a chance we can avoid this, but the altar reports said that in UK, it would actually start in Ireland. There would be a rebellion against the government siding with the rapists and it would get so bad that the, um, uh, rape gangs and all of the invaders would be killed on sight in, um, in street battles. And the description that I got out of the data was that the young women that had been and boys that had been raped, uh, would go through the streets with knives and scissors and defile the corpses. And it would cause such a horror in the, in the Muslim world that hundreds of thousands of Muslims would flee the white countries. They would understand what they had done and how they had been in a minor way. They would be extremely fearful and they would leave. And it's going to cause a huge, um, self-examination by all these white people as they look at the horror that they have caused. Now, we may avoid that, right? It's not fixed in stone, but at the time that those reports were, were being written and that was coming out, 2008, so long before the rape gang stuff was really hitting the news, it was describing these situations. And it was describing it in that moment, if we basically saying, if we keep on this same path, this is what will happen. To your point though, your government types, all of those internally, uh, driven pedophiles, coke addicts, whatever the hell is motivating them, power hungry people are aligning themselves with a pendulum that has peaked the EU and is already sliding down. Trump's going to withdraw power from NATO and then what are they aligning to? Nothing but horror and, and breakdown and degradation. No money and they will fail very rapidly. So these next two years, this, the rest of the time from now to the end of 2027 is going to be quite a peak period as all of these pendulums all come to the same point and all of these confluence of events get to that level where they're interacting with each other in a visible fashion to those of us with the eyes to see. Thus, many people see Trump as perpetual war guy. But Tom Luongo, Colonel Watkins, all of these people say, "No, he's stopping all of that. This is PAX Americana. This is the American epoch coming into existence around the planet and that it's not going to be globalism that conquers. It's going to be this ideal." And so they see, they have the eyes to see. Most do not. And so all of the ignorant people that only see so far are going to be quite shocked, including those people that participate in the horror. But they must. They've got to get that emotion out. So they will happily go and chop the penises off of their rapists lying dead in the street, run around waving them, scaring the [ __ ] out of Muslims everywhere.

>> Yes. Well, I hope that doesn't come true. As >> I hope that things have advanced and in fact, the pendulum seems to be on the downward swing. It doesn't seem that the government will be able to put up much resistance. I think it will fall very quickly to the rebellion and it'll be a re, it'll be a rebellion at first and, uh, a rebellion against an existing government. They'll, in my data, it showed as being an attempt to rebuild, uh, the governmental structure and then that would fail and it would become a true revolution and they would again, then they would start seeking the American ideal as a replacement, as an operational paradigm that functions.

>> Okay. Well, one, thank you for that. Um, one of the things I noticed around the July 4th celebrations is the difference in how Trump and Vance were speaking. Speaking the future for the United States versus the, the speaking of Ursula Vanderlay and a, and Karma and Andy Bernham is going to replace him. Completely different where Trump

>> Yeah, it's completely motivating. It's taking care of the American people. It's expansive. It's inspiring. You're great. We're going to be great. Whereas here, the speaking is all about crushing us. Where Andy Bernham, the naent prime minister, says these things aren't up for negotiation. The [ __ ]

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. In his, in his mind, that's the way it is. He'll be saying that all the way to the gallows.

>> Yes. Yes.

>> And many people will die on both sides, but, you know, this is the way it has to be.

>> Yeah.

>> And, and there's another aspect of this too, the manifestation aspect. Go read the book of Thomas that I, I annotated and you see that Trump and Vance are co-creating. They're manifesting the future they wish to live in. I'm, I'm with them. The more people that put their emotional weight behind that vision, the greater it grows. And then we shift into that paradigm. This is why I'm working so hard at this point, putting out the efforts on the idea of the ontology. In my opinion, we're going to have to get there anyway, that where we recognize the absolute and the hermetic principles. And, uh, this is the, the smart aliens believe this. I'm certain there is dense aliens that are as stupid as any human. But there are smart aliens and we'll talk to them in these principles, in these understandings. But it won't be our material scientists talking to them because they're just so ignorant of our actual reality. And so, um, but Vance and Trump were co-creating in that language. It was so clear.

>> Yeah, absolutely clear in, in the way that my wife and I co-created our life together when we took our marriage vows.

>> And you co-create every damn day with every action, right?

>> So that's the way it is. I co-create with Heidi when I say, "Can I make you a breakfast?"

>> Yeah. Cliff, thank you for co-creating with me this conversation. You really, really appreciate it.

>> Okay, so bear in mind that I'm gonna say it's not me. You know, the universe wanted you to have this conversation. Fine. But in this material reality, you're the sack of bones that I'm talking to, or rather the digital sack of bones. This digital sack of bones talking to this digital sack of bones. Right. Right.

>> So really, really appreciate it. Thank you so much. And I do recommend people, you, if you're not familiar with Cliff's work, take a look. Take a look. Be willing to consider that which is ideas that are alien because it, that are outside paradigm because it's that's how come I discovered Bitcoin and did well out of it. That's how come I decided never to send my children to school. That's how come I, I reached out to Tom Lewongo. Thought, this guy's interesting. Let me learn from him.

>> I love, I love Tom and the Colonels.

>> Yes. Yeah. And got to say, they're all. Thank you so much for when you've reposted my videos and the videos of the people that I have as guests. Really appreciate it.