You call yourself a turtle? A turtle? Do you know what that means? A turtle. Guess what?

Yes, you're called Jennifer McCabe, to Sam. This is the point where I get to ask the questions and you get to answer.

All right. So, let's ask a question and let's get an answer. Okay. Mhm.

Okay. Whenever you're ready, Mr. Jackson. Jan. Jan. Jan. Yes. Yes. Yes. No. I don't know. I'm an honest, truthful person. Yes. Yes. Yes. No. I don't. I'm an honest and truthful person. J. Yes. Yes. Yes. No. I don't know. I'm an honest and truthful person.

Once again, Mr. That's not what my question was. Did you understand my question? Yes. Yes. Yes. No, I don't. No. I'm an honest and truthful person.

You just said a second ago, I you do this all day long or you can just make it simple.

That's okay. You can continue.

Thank you. My question. I am absolutely not an honest and truthful person. Oh, wait. No, wait. Excuse me. Repeat the question. Me. 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me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me 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They call me Dr. Turtle Boy. That's my preferred pronoun. Daddy, what's up, daddy? Journalism Jesus. A Timothy Carney, the one and only Turtle Boy. Turtle Boy, what's up, Slick? The doctor is here. This guy's a bad [ __ ] Write the intro. I've broken a lot of major stories. I've been doing it for about 11 years. I used to be a high school teacher. Turtle Boy has changed a lot over the years. I was once a blogger, but now I'm much more accurately known as an award-winning journalist, a satirist, and an activist. Boom. They're screaming your name here. You're the crowd daddy. Crazy people either love me or hate me.

Listen, turtle. All right, but either way, they're watching. Don't make such fun of the criminal justice system.

Stop it. I'm never going to stop. This fight's just getting started. Now, let's get this party started. Hold on. Hold on. What's happening there? I'm disappearing. Hold on. There we go. We're good.

All right. What's up, everybody? How's everyone doing out there tonight? Good, good. Excellent. Welcome to the live show, ladies and gentlemen. I'm your fearless host. My name is Aiden Carney. You can call me a variety of nicknames if you like, up to and including a Timothy Carney. That's my true crime name. You can call me, um, what else can you call me? Uh, journalism Jesus. That's my spiritual name. You can call me, um, I don't know. You can call me. Why am I drawing a blank? Eight. I have a whole spiel. I got it memorized. You call me Uncle Turtle Boy. Just regular Turtle Boy. You can call me Dr. Turtle Boy. Um, you can call me daddy. Different derivatives of daddy, too. You call me crowd daddy, theater daddy, daytime daddy, brow time daddy, fridge daddy. Get your new fridge daddy shirts in the Turtle Boy store. Um, you call me Mike Crawford's daddy. You can call me what. I don't care. Whatever you call me. Just be here every Tuesday and Saturday night at 900 PM sharp. And make sure you smash that subscribe button for me, and we'll hook it up that way. Yeah. Um, so yeah. Anyway, um, what was I gonna say? Yeah, smash that subscribe button for me, and we'll have a great time. Anyway, um, what was I going to say? I lost my train of thought. Huh? Yeah, whatever. We got a whole bunch of subs. Oh, yeah. I always check how many subs we got. How many subs we got these days? Um, I bet. All right. Uh, all right. We're 165,424. Hold on.

Anyway, um, people like, uh, I apologize if I'm like out of it. I love the shirt. Yeah, get them in the I'm the king of the fridge, you know. That's what they say. I'll fix your fridge. No problem. Just give me a call. Um, what else is it gonna say? Oh, I'm sound far away. I'm a little bit uh away from the stream. I apologize. Let me push this back just a tad. Something like that. Good. Okay, that works.

All right. Anyway, um, what else is I gonna say? Huh? Anyway, I don't know. Well, oh, yeah. So, here's the deal. You may notice that pinned to the top is uh not hold on, I gotta fix this [ __ ] is not the um turtle chat. I put the give and go up there today. Okay. And that's for a reason. Um, because so I'll give you look it. I just want to correct some misinformation out there because this pisses me off. So, you may have seen some lies and propaganda put out there um that people have been saying that, oh, and I saw like a spreadsheet or something that was shown like, oh, he he pays like he has raised more money than his legal fees because I've made statements that like I've paid more in legal fees than Karen Reed. Not that it's like a competition or anything like that, but you know, Karen Reed paid each of her attorneys 200 grand. Bob Allesie worked for free. So, which is basically working for free for the rest of them. So, that's 400 grand. I mean, this is what she told me at least. I don't know. And so, I've made a statement that I've paid more than Karen Reed. And somebody, some people have put out some uh misinformation with like, you know, how much I've paid and I didn't, I didn't want to do this. Okay. I didn't want, whatever. So, I'll tell you how much I paid. Right. So, today, today I I'll be, and I have his permission to say this. I didn't want to say this today. Um, but I just, it's like I'm so sick of the lies. Uh, so today, the reason that's up there is I paid uh $100,000. I wrote a check for $100,000 today. You ever do that for legal fees? Just another hundred grand. Boom. Because that's how much this [ __ ] costs. This [ __ ] is not [ __ ] cheap. I have two great lawyers, right? Um, and they work off retain. I mean, so Bradle I hired for a flat fee early on. And you've seen that on there. I don't care. I'll just say it. So it was 125, right? And then another 100 when I went to jail because that was not included in it, right? And I got receipts for all that. And so how Better worked, right? When Better came on board, I would pull, I would pay Better incrementally. You know what I mean? 20 here, 25 here, 20 here, you know? Like that's how like the more work he did, I just keep paying him, you know? And now with a huge like year in front, like, you know, with all like we we got to do the [ __ ] motion to recuse and, you know, if suppos, supposed the case gets dismissed, then obviously I would get some of that money back. Okay, the 100 G's, right? And, you know, uh, I paid, you know, 20 here, 25, it added up. I think what Better is like 110, that's what it's up to so far. And then another 100 today. Okay. And I, I told him I was going to say this. I usually don't like saying this, but I have to correct misinformation. I'm not going to rely it upon. Okay. So, by my calculations, just in legal fees alone, that's $435,000. That's more than I paid for my [ __ ] house. $435,000, right? And when when these charges get dismissed, do you get that money back? No, of course you don't. That's not how it works. You don't get a refund if you're acquitted. All right. That's not including the extra. I believe I've paid $30,000 in fees to private investigators, another five G's or so to um, we had to hire like a Cellbrite expert and god knows what the [ __ ] else I've missed. Fees, all this [ __ ] When you add it all up, man, it's close to half a million dollars. All right, so that's just a complete lie. A complete lie. And if you look at the gives and go right, going into tonight, there was $282,000 in it, right? That's how much I have raised. Now, let's suppose I, I don't know what the, let's, I think I, when I added all those numbers up right there, I think that came out to $460, right? At least. And I'm not telling you this because I don't like doing this, right? But lawyers are not [ __ ] cheap, man. Oh, and that's not including an extra 20 uh 20 for um New Jersey, the the the trial I'm in in New Jersey. What? Because I exposed the woman who was um, you know, pretending to be public key online girlfriend to [ __ ] with him. I, I said I exposed who she was and she went and uh, you know, got a temporary order and now I have to beat this in court and that costs a lot of money too. Okay. So those are my, you know, Darren Gelber and Linda Kenny Boden. All right. And you got to pay for. Yeah. It's in Atlantic City. You got to pay for the hotels. You got to pay for all that [ __ ] You know, shit's not free. And so this stuff costs money. And so yeah, if you add that up, that's we're getting close to half a million. Let's just say I think it was like 485 just on what I've done alone. No, 30, 465, 49. So we're at the $490 and well, with expenses, 500. Okay. So $500,000 I have paid. That's how much it cost to be arrested. 500 grand. All right. And you got 500. I mean, it's crazy. So when all these people like, "Oh, he's making so much money. He's doing this." [ __ ] you got $500,000 in like that's what I've had to pay. Okay. And I've raised, as you can see, how much have we raised in this? $282,000. So, yeah, that's why I do Wilbur shows, right? That's why I do can't trivia night, that, you know what I mean? That's why I do all that stuff. And so, it's unfortunate that, you know, my finances were put out there. What's even more unfortunate is that they were inaccurate. And I got receipts for all these. Not that I need to [ __ ] show them, but I got receipts for all these. If you don't think Mark Better is worth every [ __ ] penny of that too, you're out of your mind. He's a He's a new, he's a Manhattan attorney. You know what I mean? Like, I don't even know what his hourly rate is. I don't even want to know, right? I don't even want to [ __ ] know what his hourly rate is. And because I'm sure it's not [ __ ] pretty and I'm sure like it'll make you sick thinking about that and you're like, "God damn, what would I do if I wasn't selling out to Wilbur?" Like, where like what the [ __ ] would I do? You know? So yeah, I would have a shitload more money if I didn't didn't get arrested. That'd be great. But unfortunately, this is what it cost, you know. So I really appreciate you guys helping out. And honestly, it sucks. I can't even make content anymore these days. I don't even know. People like, "What stories have you broken since the camera retrial, [ __ ] I don't have what with what time? With what time?" Every day I wake up and dodge bullets. Not actual bullets, but like haters coming at me. And I gotta deal with my own case, right? That's time consuming, too. I've been consumed in trying to save my own life. So, I don't have time to like break stories like I used to break stories. That was kind of the whole purpose of arresting me in the first place, right? And I don't have time to cover [ __ ] you know, like I, you know, like I like to get to, you know. Um, so I mean, that's crazy. That's a crazy number.

So, tonight uh I decided to put up the um whatchamacallit um the uh giveso instead of the turtle chat. And uh, you know, you can comment on there and I will read your your stuff on there instead. All right. Um, because yeah, it's just easier that way. That way it goes right to my legal defense fund, etc. Um, because I have the money separate. But um, yeah, you know, that that's what they wanted. They they wanted to break me. They wanted to like make it, that's what they do to you. They make it cost so much money. And that's why people get court-appointed attorneys, right? Because who, who the [ __ ] could afford this? You know what I mean? Who could afford this? It's a house, bro. It's a house. And that that's the going rate. You know what I mean? Like, you can get more expensive than that. You don't want to know what Allen Jackson's hourly rate is. All right. So, it's like effectively the same thing. You can leave a a [clears throat] comment there the same way you can tonight. So, let's start by uh I'm going to refresh this. We give Sango. Okay. All right. So, tonight, let's see what we got so far. Um, CJ Laz sends $50 and has no comments. Thank you so much, CJ Laz. You can also do Cash App if you'd like to. I'll still do the cash app. It's a dollar sign, Uncle Turtle Boy. Um, so, thank you for that. Next, um, Cat sends 50 bucks. Thanks, Cat. It says, "The noise is loud right now, but you have true supporters on your side." I know I do, man. I know you people do. Well, what you like the bingo cards you're doing, the mindless mob. Uh, it it's funny that like the language that people like Pleven use now, I mean, I apologize, that people like Mike Crawford use, Vagina Mike uses, is indistinguishable from Pleven. Indistinguishable when it comes to me. They like cult mindless mob, like it's the same thing. It is like they, when you get turtle, the funniest part about Turtle Boy derangement syndrome is that when you get it, you don't even realize you have it and you just completely change your behavior, you know? Um, so is what it is and uh, so yeah, it's been like, you know, it's been not going to lie, I haven't had time to do anything, right? It's been [ __ ] crazy, man, dodging bullets, waking up every day, right? Trying to keep everything in order. But I got bad news. I Think about this a year from now. Think where we're going to be. That's what I always had to remind myself when I was in jail. That's what I had to remind myself is, yeah, this sucks right now. This [ __ ] sucks. Longest 60 days of my life. You know, every [ __ ] day dragged on. It was, you'll never experience 60 days that long. The the length of it seemed insane. You're like, "Oh my god, you get out, [ __ ] flies by. It's like crazy." Back to reality. But like in there, it's horrible. And all you can do is think. And so I would just try to think positive and think about like what it's going to be like. You know, we got a trial coming up, got a verdict coming up. I was still thinking the FBI was coming. That's obviously doesn't look like it's happening, but you never know. Um, you know, I got my case coming that we're going to beat. We're going to beat all this [ __ ] It's we, I got a movie deal, a freaking documentary deal. I didn't even have the compelling deal at the time. I had a deal with a different company. But, you know, the documentary is coming along. We got a sizzle coming. We got a reel. But we're selling this [ __ ] to um, it's going to go to the highest bidder. Like it's going to be dope, man. The documentary is going to be dope. Hopefully comes out in the spring. Um, it's going to be here before you know it. And I just cannot wait for the success to happen. I mean, think about where we're going to be a year from now. You know, this will all be my charges will be done, right? Because the trial is scheduled for December 1st. So, it's it can't go later than that, right? So, we know we're going to be done. And, you know, um, after that, like where are they going to be? Like, where where's where are all the people trying to take all the people that they, oh, we're taking him down. He's getting exposed this. Where are they going to be? Where they're going to be where they always are. The aisle of misfit unfuckable losers. That's where they're going to be. That's where they always go to. It's a big aisle. It's getting crowded. And they re like, they're new. Some of these people are new and they think like, "Oh man, we got to [ __ ] This ain't nothing, man. This is nothing to me." Read my book, right? See what the real struggles were like early on. What do you read about a guy named Kevin Lynch and the chaos that Kevin Lynch caused on my life until I wisely made up with him? And all I had to do with Kevin, Kevin Lynch used to stalk me, like stalk my page. Every time we made a new Facebook page, and Facebook was really important for my brand back in the day because that's where we shared, you know, links to the website and, you know, we would make money per click. And so Facebook was like the biggest website in the world back then. So it was essential. And so Kevin Lynch would just [ __ ] report our Facebook pages all day. He told me that he would spend three hours a day just reporting it, reporting it, reporting it. And he knew he knew that if he did it enough times, it gets taken down. Like some, the bots, the the algorithm picks up on it or something like this is a problematic page. He took down over 50 of my pages by himself until one day I just had enough of it and I'm like, I'm so because I wrote about Kevin Lynch. It was all because he didn't shovel the sidewalk, right? It's a story out of Fitchburg. You former guy ran for mayor, right? Checkered past, criminal past, right? Been to jail and he didn't want to shovel his sidewalk one time and he made a big post about it in disc, in the Facebook page discussing Fitchburg now, right? And he made this huge huff and a puff about shoveling his goddamn sidewalk. And so I wrote about it. He didn't want to shovel the sidewalk. And so I think that's the story. I don't remember. Don't hate me, Kevin. And so then one day, like he did this for two years and we, I would just expose him and I'd go at it with him and I'd make fun of him more and did this and I'm like, wait a minute, I'm dealing with somebody who's just like indestructible, like a guy who just does not give a [ __ ] who he will do this all day, every day, like he will dedicate his life to it. So I invited him on the show. All right, maybe I don't even know if we still have this. I think this is back when I did Facebook Live, had him on the show and I'm like, look at Kevin. So we had it out. It was me, him, and Brett. Toothless one to Brett, my old sidekick there. And they just started screaming at each other. And I was like the middleman putting out. And I'm like, "Kevin, what do I got to do to get you to stop reporting my Facebook pages and just leave me alone?" And he goes, "Just stop sexually harassing my niece." And I'm like, "What? She's 14. Why are you sexually harassing my niece?" And I'm like, I don't sexually, what? That's what this is about? You think I sexually harass your niece? Done. Done. I will not, I will not, I will not sexually harass. That's easy one. I got that one done. And then he just stopped. One day Kevin Lynch was just gone. And then he reappeared in my inbox in 2023 as a free read supporter. How crazy is that? Like, I've met multiple people throughout the freak and read movement who I've written about who have come to me and been like, "Hey, I thought you were like a [ __ ] asshole." Like, I, you know what I mean? Like you [ __ ] came at, because I came at, I come at people hard, you know? I write about them. I do shows on them and make fun of them. That's what this brand has always been about. And, you know, in in the meantime, I would like break actual news stories. Like one out of every seven or eight articles was like a real news story, right? Whereas the others are like entertainment that fills in the day, you know? Oh, this ratchet selling his food stamps on Facebook over here. This one's trying to sell his kids on Craigslist. Ah, this one, you know, Ratchet Mania, a Turtle Boy. That's where Ratchet Madness came from. And then one day Karen Reed came along. And that was just another real story. And but Karen Reed just occupied, you know, so much of my time. Oh yeah. Um, um, so yeah. Um, anyway, so that's what happens. Anyway, back to this. I forgot what I was saying. Let's read some more. Got distracted there. Um, Kathy, I don't know if I read yours for 50 or no, that's not, I already read that. Kathy sent 50 bucks. Love and prayers. Dana Nick sent 25 bucks and goes, "Especially after recent lives and meagraphs on X. Definitely supporting you." So, um, again, disclaimer, disclaimer, um, about this. Uh, I am not going to be talking um about my ex-girlfriend at all anymore on this platform or on any platform. I've said everything that I needed to say. Okay? And there is nothing left to say. Like that's it. I have nothing. Everything's out there. The facts are out there. The truth is out there. If if you're not, uh, if you're not convinced at this point, then you're never going to be. And I don't really care. It's like, I don't care if you don't. But I just don't care, you know? Like, if you do, you do. Great. If you don't, if you want to not follow the content, okay, but let's be honest, you're not going to stop following. You know what I mean? You're not going to stop. No one like, no one ever stops. Like my haters, especially now that I'm monetized, you know? You're never going to stop and you're going to keep watching it. Of course you are, because you have nothing else to [ __ ] do on a Tuesday night. And what else are you gonna watch on YouTube? Who are you gonna watch? [ __ ] Vagina Mike. What? What are you gonna watch? JF Bomb. Who? Who? Who you gonna watch on a? What are you gonna do? I mean, the chat rats are killing them in the ratings. They're getting more. They, the Turtle Boy warm-up shows, right? The Turtle Boy pep rally shows, Rat House Media and Ray from Dallas get more views than Vagina Mike does anymore, you know, and and they just started. So, yeah. Um, so yeah, we're going to be killing it, man. A year from now, this is going to be dope. All these people are just going to be, we're going to be like, "Oh yeah, remember those guys that thought they could take Turtle Boy down? Oh yeah, that was cute." I can't even keep track anymore. I've been told, I mean, Kim Fair has been trying to take me down. Mike Gaffne has been trying to take me down for years and they don't care. And so like they sometime, sometimes they fizzle out, but sometimes they stay and they're like, "This is what we're going to do." Dump truck Shannon Leair with the Turtle Boy uh secrets chambers thing there. Like she has, she's obsessed with me, like obsessed. And good, love it because I'm still on topic. Anyway, let's read some more here. Um, yeah, oh, and so not only am I not going to be talking about it, but I don't want any, I'm not going to read donos about it either, okay? I will acknowledge you. I will acknowledge what you've given and donated and I will announce the amount, but I'm not going to read it if you write it about Meredith. So, this is not going to be like, like we're done. We're out. We're done. Period.

All right. Next. Um, Wendy sends a hundred bucks. Thanks, Wendy. And goes, "I am happy to help you defend the truth in free speech." Well, thank you so much, Wendy. Uh, 10 bucks from anonymous giver. Uh, and they have no comments at all. Um, oh, static. Great. Uh, Wendy's other one. Read some more. Refresh. Okay, coming in nice. There we go. That's what I'm talking about. Um, Len sends 25 bucks and goes, "The chat rats have got your back, Turtle Boys. Great seeing you guys in there this this evening for the pregame. Nice to see you again in this. It's nice to see you guys in there." Um, Jess sends a hundred bucks and goes, "We appreciate you, Daddy. Thank you for fighting for the First Amendment. No mercy on the blank." Okay. Thank you, Jess. Appreciate it. Uh, and thank you for calling me daddy. Teresa sends 10 bucks and goes, "Hey, Turtle Boy. Sorry, couldn't be more. Stay strong. Will there be another Wilbur show?" Yes, in the spring. Uh, hopefully announcement coming on date soon on that. Okay, so thank you. Next, um, Auntie Chrissy sends 20 bucks and goes, "We have your back, babe. Always." Well, thank you so much, Auntie Chrissy, and I really appreciate you having my back. Anonymous giver sends 10 bucks, goes, "Love you, Turtle Boy. Sending positive vibes." Thank you so much, Anonymous. Cheryl sends 25 bucks and goes, "No words for what I have seen go down the past few weeks. I support you." Yeah, I mean, that's the way it is with me. It's like, I just, no words. It's, it is just, let it play out. You know what I mean? Uh, Colts are done. Yes, they are. They're [ __ ] Uh, sends 150. He goes, "You deserve to be free, but can you please say the Colts really gave a great try? Started off good, but then reality hit. What happened to Anthony Richardson? You guys are getting like Old Man Rivers back. What happened to Anthony Richardson?" I don't know. Next. Uh, Jennifer Fire sends five bucks and goes, "All the love from Arizona. Team Turtle always." Thank you, Jennifer. Shantel sends $53 and says, "53 bucks in honor of my 53rd birthday today. Nothing better than a TV live on your birthday." Well, thank you very much, Shantel. I really appreciate that. Next, um, EB sends 25 bucks and goes, "Ridiculous that you're still facing these charges. The people who divided the movement have no interest in justice, just drama and virtue signaling. You don't have to think you are a saint or agree with everything you say or do to recognize how wrong this is." Exactly. Exactly. All right. Next. [sighs] Anonymous giver sends 50 bucks and goes, "We got you stronger brother." Well, thank you, Anonymous Giver. Chad sends 10 bucks, goes, "I just want to give out to my a shout out to my wife, Tracy Holub. She's been following you from the beginning, and I know this will make her day." Well, happy shout out to Tracy. I appreciate that. Holy [ __ ] [ __ ] Damn. God dam. God damn. Anonymous giver, whoever that is, just sent in $1,500 to the legal defense fund. And they don't didn't even put a comment. No, they did. They said, "We have you all the way." Thank you so much. What a thought. What a a very thoughtful uh way to do that, too. You don't even say your name. You don't even want the credit because you just support it. That was really thoughtful. So, thank you. You know, cuz and you know, um, and I'm like trying to explain my business model to Better. I'm like, you know, about like I'm like, "Oh, like I just, I I told him I'm like, you know, can I take, can I say how much I paid because like that's what makes the community want to rally around me because like I'm dodging bullets up here for the team, kind of. You know what I mean? Like, I'm fighting for all of us up here because if I can't speak, then you can't speak. No, no one can speak, right? And like, so like that seems like a lot, but and like eventually I'll raise it, you know, but it's like, ran whoever the [ __ ] that person is that just gave me $1,500. I don't even know their name. I don't know what they do for work, right? They could be a doc. They obviously do well for themselves. They can afford to do that. But like maybe they're a doctor or a lawyer or a CEO or, you know, a financial planner. God knows there are so many people out there of all means, you know, poor, middle class, upper middle class, rich, you name it. Homeless, a lot of homeless people, the contingent of, you know, they give me donuts sometimes. But like they, you know, I'm going up against the com. We saw what happened with Karen Reed. You saw what happened when they have unlimited resources, right? To take you on and like that's what they have. So I I can't, I couldn't do without you find people. So that's a lot, man. God, I love you people. Uh, Brenda sends five bucks and goes, "You have more supporters than you have haters. Just remember that anytime they get to you, we love you, Aiden. Stay strong." Oh, thank you, Brenda. And I do, and I know that. And again, it ain't easy sometimes, you know, but you have to remind yourself, Twitter ain't real life. Twitter is not real life. It's ugly place on that, right? And you can curate it and and make it so that like if you block everyone on your account and you only have, it makes it look like you have more support than you actually have. You know what I mean? Or if you if you leave your like Crusty for, I don't say a lot of nice things about Crusty and I never will, but like she doesn't block people a lot. So that's why in her replies she gets [ __ ] destroyed. That's how you can tell she doesn't block people because her replies are filled with negativity, right? Because and anybody on that side whose replies are not filled with that, you know, they block a lot, right? So, we are we are in the vast majority. There are so many people out there that support me and and what we do over here and the car re free carry movement and all the justice movement, etc. So, thank you so much. Next, uh, anonymous giver sends 25 bucks. Goes, "Hey, daddy, keep your head up high in the face of challenges, critics, and all the obstacles thrown your way. Your strength and determination continue to shine. You've shown courage when it would have been easier to back down and that inspires more people than you know. We are standing with you, proud to support you and confident that brighter days are ahead. Stay strong. We believe in you." Well, thank you so much, Anonymous. Uh, and brighter days are ahead. Angie sends five bucks goes, "I'm glad to donate to your defense fund. I hope that in spite of all the chaos going on behind the scenes, the still time fine for you and your kiddos to enjoy the holiday season. I am sending lots of love from Idaho." Nice. Uh, some potato turtle riders. Nice. Angie and the potato turtle riders. We love you, Aiden. Thank you. Kath sends 25 bucks and goes, "You are fighting for free speech and that affects everyone." Exactly. And without free speech in a First Amendment, we don't have a country like the whole country falls apart. That's the premise of my book is right. Without the the most important part of a democracy is the right to speak freely and to share your opinions. And like what did I get charged for? Like what did I get charged for? By coming on the show and making jokes and stuff, right? And and doing impressions and making phone calls, but also activism. Also showing up like the rolling rally is the thing that they all point to. Oh, we did the rolling rally. Uh, so what? That's not witness intimidation. You know how I know it's not witness intimidation? Because the can nine were not charged with witness intimidation. They tried to charge him with witness intimidation, but luckily I raised the funds and gave 1,500 of my own dollars to the can nine so they could have lawyers so that they were never charged, right? And they were outside of Chris Albert's business holding signs, doing their thing, right? I went to Chris, I went to Jennifer McCabe's home outside of it and did the same thing. You're allowed to stand outside of people's homes and their businesses and make your feelings hurt. Okay? You are allowed to do that in the United States of America. And you're allowed to go to lacrosse games, too. That's also free. Believe it or not, the First Amendment also exists while Jennifer Mckids are playing field uh uh lacrosse, whatever they're playing, right? You're allowed to do that. So, and like Richie said, there were hundreds of people there. Exactly. Nice. Um, next. Uh, okay. Kath, no other one. Uh, Liz 888 sends 20 bucks. Goes, "Thanks for all you do, especially in my Norfick County." In Norfick County, in County Norfol, you're a stand-up man and a wonderful son. We're all behind you. Oh, thank you. Silly girl sends 10 bucks, goes, "I wish I could afford to give more, but here are a few of your brittle and and better robucks to help you guys fight for the First Amendment. Stay strong and keep fighting." Thank you so much, silly girl. On behalf of stupid April. Oh, nice. Sends 50 bucks and goes because she's still working, but ready to get twerking for you, daddy. You better, stupid April. Better better. Keep keep in shape for daddy. I like that. All right, next. Um, what do we have here? All right, Cash Apps here. [ __ ] Haron sends 10 bucks and says, "Reminder that Karen Reed Karen Reed is an ungrateful cunt." Uh, you know, that's an opinion. I I will read the chats. I'm gonna I called I used the C-word with her once and I'm not going to try to do it again with her because Proctor called her that and they're going to, but I'm also not a detective investigator of case and I and I said it in defense of her. I said she wasn't a murderer, she was a C. You know what I mean? So, I was kind of paying her a compliment when I said that. Like, it's it it's also a joke. I do comedy here. It was kind of funny the way it sounded like a lot of people pointed that one. So, yeah. Okay. Uh, let me just refresh this one. I think that was this going off. All right. Um, let me just refresh the Gibson and go here, man. Raise a few grand, let's say. Okay. Um, [clears throat] Janice Donovan sends a 100 red bucks and has no comment. Thank you so much, Janice. Um, Ma Moto X Angel sends 25 bucks and says, "Merry Christmas to you and your family. May peace be upon your heart soon. P.S. I heard Santa is going to have a coal party for the house clowns." Oh, okay. G. McKenna sends a hundred bucks goes, "I support you and thank you for all you've done and will continue to do. God bless you." Thank you so much, G. McKenna. Um, Tony Cali sends 25 bucks goes, "Teach those corrupt procarotes." Okay, I don't know what that means. A lesson. I want to slurp their tears and dance in the street when justice comes for them. Okay. Hasht. All right. Uh, it's Fleety sends um 20 bucks and says, "Keeping the monies on Gibbs and Go will make it easier for KP to add up your donos." Yeah, that's true. She does like to do that in her spare time according to that email. Remember that how crazy that email was. All right. Joe sends a hundred bucks. Goes, "You are stronger than them all. Keep up the good fight. Thanks for all your sacrifices and hard work." Well, thank you so much, Joe. Linda sends 10 bucks. Goes, "Keep on keeping on fighting all the corruptors. You are wonderful and we are blessed for the turtle theater daddy." Thank you so much. Jennifer sends 25 bucks. Goes, "What an inspiration you are. Chin up and keep your journey trucking." Thanks, Jen. Anonymous giver sends five bucks. Goes, "Aiden, you are a kind and smart guy. And always remember, you're a good person. You're from a good family. You have fans who have your back. Stay courageous, bro." Well, thank you so much. Um, anonymous sends five bucks and goes, "Can you please go to look at loophole lawyers video he posted today? It is hysterical." And goes along with the theme of what you're going to be talking about tonight on the show. I will definitely give that a check out. Wendy sends a hundred bucks goes, "Your voice matters now more than ever. You had the courage to stand up and advocate to corruption. Keep on pushing for the truth and defending the rights of all to express themselves. Stay strong." Well, thank you so much, Wendy. Anonymous giver sends 50 bucks and says, "All the prayers, love, and support." Well, appreciate that. So, if anybody else wants their messages read aloud to the class tonight, the give and go is pinned to the top. You can donate there or you can cash at me at dollar sign uncle turtle boy and we can do it that way. Okay. Um, so without further ado, what are we at here? All right, over 6,000 people watching. Nice to see. Okay.

So, what I wanted to talk about tonight is this new channel. I have not watched this. Okay. I thought we could all use a good laugh tonight, right? Get back to making fun of um Wait a minute. Did they take it down? Oh my gosh, it's down. Okay. Well, they've taken their they've taken it down. What are we gonna watch? This thing is gone. Luckily, I had I've had it queued up for like a week and all I have to do is press play and it will go on. But if I hit refresh, it'll be gone. So, this Tuesday Gazette person, she's an anti-car read person. They they have some sort of channel here. Okay. And they are, if you're on Twitter, you might notice some of these um homely looking uh females. Um, you've got, um, the blonde one who's not bad looking, but you can tell she's just like a really bad. I mean, you look at her, you you know when you see a bad, you know what you when you see, you know, a bad lay when you see one. I mean, just cuz she's pretty. You got to be honest, she's pretty. But look at her face. Look how angry she is. She would not be fun. She would not be exciting. These are the Karen Reed is guilty people. Okay, these are the retards on Twitter who say it. The one in the bottom right hand corner is the glare has streamed this already. Cool. Well, I haven't watched it yet. Uh, Melody played, I know I'm late to the party. I know I'm late to the party, but this has been on my list of things to watch. You're not missing much. None of them. Okay, it's still there. Did they change the name of their channel? Is that I heard they changed the name of the channel. Maybe that's why the URL doesn't work. What is this one saying? Okay. Getting a text about it. Yes. Julie Karp is a [ __ ] Yes. Um, but Loophole also shared the Mona's vlog. Okay. Yes. That her name, I think Tuesday Gazette. Is that what she's called? You know, and then what's this one with the glasses and the bad camera? Okay. I mean, look at her. Look how miserable these women are. Look at them. Oh, we're getting a message here. Hold on. For forensic room. Okay, it is now called the forensic room. So let me go to that. For for-en-zic. Oh, okay. They have home videos. Let's see. Did they take this one down? Interesting. All right. So, I don't know if this whole thing's going to play, but if I like rewind, if it won't work because this is gone. This is not on their page. Did they take this one down? I don't even know. But this one, I think it's Is that the Oh my god. I don't even know. Look at her. Why are they so miserable? All of them. This one at least knows Gemma McCabe, so she has a reason, you know, to to want to cover this up. The others are just [ __ ] And then, of course, there's Big Red at the bottom left here. So, let's see what they're having to say about this case.

The house. Um, and Oh, wait. Where'd it go? The video's gone. How do I watch it? That was my entire show was making fun of them. That was the whole show. Hold on. All right, let's go back to their page. That was the whole show. I should have downloaded it. How long is this? Five minutes. Home playlist. It's gone. Wow. Holy [ __ ] Where can I watch it? Let's go to loophole lawyers thing then. The glare has got the whole thing. Let's go to loophole lawyer start with. Okay, let's check it out.

God damn, her SUV. Ian also did an experiment where he drove with his phone. If the phone was docked or put down, it didn't count stops. During the time for which John approached the breezeway, there were many ridge surfaces, but there is one in particular that many of the witnesses swore was located not where John was walking, but out by the mailbox. There is no way to get into the garage from the house. It seemed go to the door and start to cross the threshold. He walked into the house. I think he was confronted. Was likely brought down to the basement. These four women believe that Karen Reed struck Jonno Keith with her SUV on that fateful morning. They have a new YouTube channel and it's very important both sides listen to each other to figure out who actually killed Jonno Keith. Brian Higgins and when he did it. I think that confrontation got physical. He was beaten to a point of unconsciousness. The location data that shows accurate tends to show around the flag pole area. Right. Why they take When you look at that picture of the house, there's the front door. Did they say why they took all their lives down? Oh, I wanted to have some fun with that, too. Oh, wow. Missed it. Anybody download it? We'll see. I don't know if Will's watching. Did we'll do a whole stream on it? There's the breezeway door and then there is a side door. That side door goes into the garage. There is no way to get into the garage from the house. This is a view of the breezeway for which Karen claims she saw John enter on that fateful morning. We're not sure if he actually entered the house through this door on the left here or potentially went into the garage, which is a door right here on the right. In order to get into the garage, you have to come out of the house. Like, let's say you're at the breezeway. So, you'd come out of the breezeway and you would enter that side door or you could go through the overhead doors. Once John was in the house, he would have had to been walked back out of the house and either walked through that side door or the overhead doors. She's making a great point. If you believe John entered the house after he exited Karen's SUV at 12:24 and approximately 28 seconds, he would have had to then come back out of the house and then go into the garage. If he actually went into the garage, the important part of that is the 36. There was only 36 steps at 12:31 and 56 seconds. His phone starts to record movement and it ends at 12:32 and 16 seconds. After that time, there was no recorded movement on the phone. It's not possible for him to have gone in the house and then come back out of the house. Please remember that that there is no way once you're in that house.

to get into the garage without going outside again. She's making a great point.

Had John O'Keeffe been in the house right after he exited the vehicle, there would be movement on the phone from the house into the garage. Our current hypothesis is Brian Higgins attacked John O'Keefe at approximately 12:25 a.m. as soon as he exited the vehicle before entering the house. And the subsequent interactions and movement of the phone were not when John was alive, but after he was attacked.

So in the first trial, the defense was fitting their theory to the information they had and they had that stairflight information. That stairflight information happened before they arrived. They were fitting it to that. That's why they had him going in the house up and down the stairs.

I did see a comment that was saying that the street was mostly flat. Ian Whiffin did actually go through that. He pulled up the topography map. We see that all of these location points match the pattern of the road layout. Each one of those data points was recorded on John's iPhone. They match the exact route of the road that they took to get the 34 fair view.

Again, it indicates how reliable the data is because the location data that's recorded recognize the vehicle slow come to a stop and then continue after the the stop sign.

Is Maple Coft Road in Canon? Yes. So, at 24 minutes and 20 seconds, we see the device is already on Fairview Road. In trial number two, Ian Whiffin with his data evidenced the exact time John Key's phone pulled up the 34 Fair View. 24 minutes 28 seconds traveling at 14.5 mph, at which point it's approximately outside number 34 around the driveway area. Finally, the device comes to a complete stop at 24 minutes and 38 seconds.

The information I found on John's phone was essentially uh these five records. So between 11 minutes and 9 seconds and 21 minutes and 5 seconds, there were 170 steps recorded by the device.

The time period between 1219 12215, you don't have any independent information where John O'Keeffe on his cell phone were, do you? The location data that I showed to begin with on Washington Street was around 12 minutes after midnight.

This data is very critical and it was pulled from John's Apple Health data. It indicates any movement of the phone during the relevant time frame between 1222 and 14 seconds and 1224 and 37 seconds. John's health data indicated that he ascended three flights of stairs. In trial number one, we incorrectly assume that that was John going up and down the basement for which he was beat. That's simply not true based upon the data.

So the presumption is that's where the location was at that time. And then 21 minutes and 5 seconds, the device had already started using ways. It was already driving.

What time did you say that ways was initiated? Uh it was approximately 19 minutes and 30 seconds.

At 12:14, John sent a text asking Jacabe where to. John sent to me where to at 12:14. In response, Jen called him and provided him the address 34 Fairview. We call 1218 and 47 seconds. That call also was answered by you, John.

Oh, by the way, uh question just thought of this about the movie. All right, here's a r here's a random question I want to ask you guys and remember this one down the road. I'm just going to throw it out there right now. Okay, just remember this question. When the movie comes out, who do you think should play Carrie Roberts? That's what I want to ask for you guys right now. Who do you think who do you guys think should play Carrie Roberts in the movie? I want you to remember who you think is going to play her, right? And then cuz you'll never guess. I don't think you'll guess. Who do you guys think will play Krie Roberts in the movie? I just want to hear what you guys are going to say about that. I just thought of that. Katie Holmes. Oh, that's not that. No. Katie Holmes. Stop it. Kathy Beats. [laughter] What else? Sand. Oh god. Celtics socks pats, huh? Interesting. Where are you guys getting this [ __ ] from? Okay. Anyway, we'll get just remember that one. Remember that one. All right. Back to this.

You've made that phone call. Correct. Correct. Then John entered 34 Fair View into his way system, which was the directional app that he used in order to navigate to the house.

Again, we see 21 minutes and 10 seconds until 24 minutes and 22 seconds. There are 80 steps recorded. Again, if you compare this to the location data, we know that the device was in a vehicle at this time.

The movement on John's phone between 12:21 and 1224 and 22 seconds was initially thought to have been him inside the house. Based upon the GPS data, John was actually located in Karen's car during that time frame. Therefore, any theory that he was ascending or descending flights of stairs during that time frame is absolutely not correct.

Between 22 absolutely I don't buy. So then why was it going up and down three flights of stairs? They still haven't answered that to this day. I think it got there like you get there at 12:24. It's like that's within the 1222 to 1224 range, right? Right. You go up and down. You can go up down a couple flights of stairs. You get in there, go up down, you know? Oh, go down to the basement, come back. Yeah. Whatever. I don't know what the [ __ ] you're doing in there. Bottom line is it doesn't say three flights of stairs for nothing. That happened for a reason. I try to make I cannot I've done it a bunch of times. It's so [ __ ] accurate. the ascent, how many flights of stairs you go up, like it's crazy accurate. It just doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense.

Seconds and 24 minutes and 37 seconds. We have three flight time events that are aggregated into that time period. And again, the location data shows that the device was traveling in the vehicle at that time. The location data shows it was in the car at the time. And my next few slides will demonstrate why. So, we have the first record at 2217. A black line event was recorded. I've highlighted that as a red line. And that equates to the red line that shows underneath the time stamp where the device was at that time.

John's phone indicates that he ascended three flights of stairs at exactly 12:22 and 17 seconds. However, the data indicates that he was actually in Karen's car at that very time where the device was at that time. The second record is 22 minutes and 32 seconds show with the green line which shows over here.

As Wy explained, the second time his phone indicated an elevation change was at 1222 and 32 seconds and he was nowhere near 34 F. And then finally uh 24 minutes and 37 seconds after midnight shows with an orange line down here outside 34 Fairview.

The last flight climbed according to Whiffy's data is 1224 and 37 seconds which is right about the time John keep arrived at 34 Fair View. So perhaps that one data point indicates that maybe Jon ascended a flight of stairs. Let's keep watching.

Health activity events are recorded upon the event completion. The device doesn't know that you're about to walk up some stairs. It doesn't know that you're halfway up some stairs. It has to wait until you reach the top in order to detect an altitude change has occurred. That change only gets written to the database once the flight climb has ended. I tested approximately eight different phones, different models, different. See, this was this whole thing. I'm still mad about this. He just made this [ __ ] up. I tested with all these different with all these different devices. He didn't record anything. Like, can we get a can can you video record it? Can you show it? He's like, just trust me, bro. Trust me. I I went and drove that the other day in my rental car. Trust me, bro.

Versions of iOS found that on average there was a time difference between 15 and 50 seconds between when I physically stopped walking up a flight of stairs and when the record was made.

Based upon his test, the Apple Health data records a flight change between 15 and 50 seconds after it actually occurred. So, though we see the times that he ascended the stairs throughout the course of those previous minutes, it doesn't mean that was the exact time and most likely it happened between 15 and 50 seconds prior.

You may recall earlier I said that it's a 3 m incline that Apple considers a flight plan event. That's critical. The whiffy claims that the phone will only record an elevation change if it's at least 3 m, which is approximately 9 ft. John's phone recorded a flight climbed event three different times. One at 1222 and 17 seconds, another at 1222 and 32 seconds, and finally that one at 1224 and 37 seconds. And according to Wiffy's chart, there was at least a 9 ft change in elevation at the points for where John O'Keefe was when the phone actually recorded it and compared that information to a topology website from the aerial. The white circles show the altitude of that particular location according to the topology website. For the red gradient, there's an increase from 43 to 47 m.

So, is the static on my on the mic really bad? Cuz the phone's all it's like many feet away and I don't know how to fix that. Is it bad? Can you guys give me some feedback on this one? No pun intended. Is the static bad on the microphone? That's what some people are texting me and saying. I got my phone like all the way over there. Let's see. It's crazy how Brendan didn't let Wiffin answer Allessie when he asked Wiffin what the results were of his driving test on the road to come with claims caused the stairs. He didn't let him ask. I thought he said that it went up and down. I thought he said that it it registered him going up and down flights of stairs that it caused it. Somebody said, "Where's Turtle chat?" It's the Gibson and go instead. Same thing just different fund. No, it's not bad. Okay, went away. Cool. All right, back to this. This is what we really needed to see. Was there an elevation change throughout the path JKE took on that very night? And if you look here, the number 43 and the number 47 represent the elevation at those particular points. So clearly we can see that there is a significant enough elevation change to trigger a flight climbed event in the phone.

Green number two, again we're going from around 47 to 50 m. And then with the orange gradient at the bottom, we've gone from around 26 to 28 m.

Um, he had explained earlier in the testimony, elevation is 3 meters, right? Not 3 mters. So, so 9 ft. If the elevation goes up 9 ft, the phone is going to consider that going up a flight. She's 100% right. According to the topographical maps, the elevation does change enough to trigger a flights climbed event in an iPhone.

I know you're going to say, "Well, they were in the car, so it's not going to count stuff." Ian also did a experiment where he drove with his phone. If the phone was docked or put down, it didn't count stops. However, if he held the phone while he was driving, it did count stops.

During his testimony, Wiffy explained he conducted several tests driving this exact very route. If he held the phone in his hand, it would record steps and elevation change. If he had it docked, it wouldn't.

I know that there's been a lot of reporting that all the streets are flat. It's completely flat. That's actually not true. And that actually was in the testimony. It's It's actually not true. [ __ ] you ever drove on the street? Calm down, big red. It's I know it's not Indiana flat, but around here it's pretty [ __ ] flat. Anyone who lives in Oakdale Road can tell you it's pretty [ __ ] flat. It's just untrue. And it's like it first of all, no matter how steep the hill is, it's not going to show you going up and down any flights of stairs. That's just not how it works. Fat people everywhere could lie to their personal trainers and get credit for exercising when they're not actually exercising if that were the case. So that's completely untrue.

He showed it perfectly where those elevations were. It was while they were driving. More than likely he was holding his phone. Where would Where else would he put it? He was a passenger. He was looking. We know he was looking at the phone.

McCabe, we've talked in some detail about your calls with John O'Keefe on the morning of January 29th. There was a call at 12:14 a.m. That was the call that you indicated was answered. You had a conversation with Mr. O'Keefe. So John sent to me where to at 12:14. Correct. There was a call at 12:18 and 47 seconds. That call also was answered by you. John O'Keefe made that phone call. Correct. Correct.

And now the timeline is lining up beautifully. At 12:18, Hen McCabe calls John O'Keefe to give him directions. At 12:19, John punches 34 Fairview into the Ways app. But guess what happens just a minute later? Yes, I said, "Are you coming here?" with three followed by three question marks.

That text was sent by Higgy Bear at 12:20 a.m. after threatening John O'Keefe at the waterfall just 25 minutes earlier while Higgy Bear was sitting in his jeep. He

It is kind of a weird question to ask John O'Keefe when I mean, that's how you know this guy's involved. First of all, I've seen Higgy Bear at his house. He chased after me like a wild rhino. Like he he ran after me like just for going on a street. Get the [ __ ] out of here. [ __ ] out of here. I'm like, whoa, easy higgy bear. Like I've dealt with a with a mad higgy bear before. It's not fun. You put a couple drinks in it and that that was sober higgy bear too. That was Cape Higgy Bear. Like that's supposed to be chill out, chillax higgy bear. But no, he was full-fledged higgy bear. He came out of there and you know this guy's I've seen it. He's got a temper and think about it. He's sending he just got into an argument with John. He's yelling [ __ ] at him being held back. John's like doing the dance thing, mocking him, blah blah blah. So why why would he text him at 12:20 and be like, "Yo, you coming, bro?" "Yo, you were just yelling at him five minutes ago. Why would you ask him, "Are you coming?" How does that for what? Because this a setup. The whole thing's a setup. Now, I don't think Hagen did it himself. I think a few of them did it. It was an accident. That's why John got knocked the [ __ ] out because it was an accident. But there's no there's no way if Higgins did this, they'd all just be like, "Yo, that's cool. We'll help you cover that up. Yeah, we'll take that risk. Yeah, no problem." No. Couple people revolve. Maybe three. Colin, maybe. Brian maybe and Brian maybe. You know, I think those are your most three likely.

He thought John was coming to fight. John really had no idea that Higgy Bear was so in love with Karen because he wasn't aware of all the texting, sexing, the meetings, the kiss.

I responded, "Coming to your house would have been bad for the both of us. For starters, you wouldn't have wanted me to leave." And the ignore

I mean, for starters, you wouldn't have wanted me to leave. If he probably read it just like that when he wrote it, too, wouldn't he have? You know, I've I've seen some bad sex, you know. But not I don't know if it's that bad. That That's pretty bad. What? One more time. Hegy, what do you say? Of him at the bar. Um, well,

while he approached the breezeway at 34 the kiss. I responded, coming to your house would have been bad for the both of us. Foras, you wouldn't have wanted me to leave. Andas, you wouldn't have wanted me to leave. Okay. Yeah, because you're just so irresistible, Higgy. Oh, man. Higgy, don't leave. Stay here and [ __ ] me, Higgy bear. Oh yeah, give me that big Higgy hog. Oh yeah, give it to me, Higgy. Look at him. Look at him. Oh my god. Karen Reed boked that. Just remember that. Karen Reed looked at that guy. No wonder she didn't tell me that. And I'm not trying to [ __ ] on her for that, but like that's just a fact. Cameron Reed had John O'Keefe, a very tall, handsome man, you know, with a lot going on. He's cool. Bit like John O'Keefe. And she was like, "You know who I want to [ __ ] Higgy. [ __ ] Higgy." Like, picture those two going out on a date. Karen Reed and Higgy. Could you even picture it? because he's he's so fat and she's so skinny and it just wouldn't look right. It just, you know, he would wear a hoodie, too. You know, he would not like get dressed up at all. You know, when Higgy goes on a date, he just throws on the Harley sweatshirt, some jeans, maybe his dress jeans, throws on his Nikes, gets in his [ __ ] Jeep, you know, takes the plow off. Takes the plow off because this is date night, and goes and picks up Karen Reed. Ah, we're gonna go to the [ __ ] hillside. Oh, low comps. Low comps over there, baby. Just picture I I every time I look at this guy, I'm like, bro, Karen re like there's hope for everybody. Like, if you're like a disgusting person out there, like, you're a slob. You like wake up every day, you look at yourself in the mirror, and you're like, "Oh man, I'm [ __ ] gross. Look at me. I need to go to the gym. [ __ ] nasty. I hate I hate my way I look. Oh, my [ __ ] belly. Oh, Jesus Christ. Oh my god. I can't even see my dick. Oh, whatever. You know, just remind yourself that this guy, this [ __ ] guy right here that Karen Reed looked at that man and she said one word would. She just said, "Would [ __ ] it." You know what I mean? Whatever. She She did. And like she looked at him and was like, "Yeah, [ __ ] it. I'd [ __ ] him." I don't know. I don't know if she [ __ ] I don't know if Karen I'm not saying Karen [ __ ] Do you guys think she [ __ ] him for real? Should we do a Should we do a poll in the chat? Let's just ask a question. Should we ask that? Is that wrong to ask? Is that wrong to ask? Is that inappropriate? I'm just like I've heard various things on there. Let's just Oh, no. Not a Q&A. Did Karen bang Higgy Bear? Okay. What is What is the chat thing? Do you guys think yes or no? Did because why wouldn't she? She went to his house. That's kind of indisputable, right? Like she did go to his house. What'd you go to his house for? What do you do at someone's house? Let's see. 20. Right now we have 500 votes in. 28% say yes. No. 26% say yes. So most say no. Most have your back, Karen. Okay. She teased them like she went to the house, didn't she? I don't know. Oh, you gota say no. She just wanted attention. You don't go to someone's house for attention, do you? I don't know. But whatever. She's just like, she must have smooched him, you know? She kissed him a little bit in the house. I can picture him having whiskey dick. That's true. You know, this guy can't perform. like he does not know what to do with a pretty lady. There's no way. It doesn't happen very often with Higgy Bear. Maybe back in the day, you know, but uh yeah, some people say she's a tease. Yeah. You know, he wanted the real deal. That that wasn't the real deal. It was only half the deal. Like he wanted commitment. Higgy Bear is not some [ __ ] that you can just use his dick and move on with your life. Higgy Bear wants the real deal. He wants a full night of cuddling and uh you know he wants to talk about your family in the morning. Tell me all about how many sisters and brothers do you have? Oh, that's really cool. Where'd you go to school? Wow, that's great. You know, oh wow. Yeah. So, what else do you like? Tell me what other things you're interested in. Wow. I just love hearing about you. I love learning about you. I love getting to know you as a person. You're really deep. Let me can I hug you? you know, can I tell you all my deep, dark, intimate thoughts and whatever, and just like, you know, maybe have a cry, something like that. Like, I can picture Hegy Bear doing that. That's what Higgy wants. Higgy doesn't Higgy is not here just to [ __ ] you and leave. No, no, no. He wants the real deal.

The ignoring of him at the bar. Um, well, while he approached the breezeway at 34 Fair View, he thought he was going to a friendly environment. However, Higgy Bear thought he was coming to fight and that's evidenced by that 12:20 a.m. text randomly out of nowhere after threatening him. Are you coming here? In Brian Higgins mind, John O'Keefe came to fight. In John's mind, most likely he had no idea the animosity brewing inside this big boy.

What time did the policeing guy indicate that John O'Ref's phone arrived at 34th Fairview on January 29th? 12:24 and 28 seconds. This portly brother is the defense's expert in trial number one. He claims that Jonaki's phone arrived at 12:24 and 28 seconds, which would eliminate two out of the three flights climb based upon the data.

I think I said here, question mark. So, this one is from myself to John and it says here at 12:27. Then there's the 1229 and 44 second call that you indicated was not answered from you to him. Correct. I sent to John pull behind me.

In the leadup to the second trial, we started to hear these things about the garage and there's a picture of Alan Jackson and he's by a ridge because Dr. Lapisatada said the only way that he would get that injury is if he hit his head on the ridge. So, they conveniently find this ridge in the garage that just happens to be covered with it looks like paint. If you look at the thickness of it, it it's definitely thicker. It was the shutter paint from it was the paint from their shutters. These girls claims the red paint found in the garage was from the shutters. Apparently, they were painted the same color. However, I'd never learned that before and I thank them for getting us that information. But they bring up a great point. Had John O'keefee entered the house after he exited Karen's SUV, he then would have had to come back out of the house to eventually get into the garage. And based upon the lack of movement of the phone between that 1224 and then the next movement, it seems very unlikely Johnke would have done that because you cannot enter the garage through the house. You must come outside and enter through either that side door or the two front doors. And remember, everyone in the house is looking outside at that point. And Ricky's in his F-150 truck along with two other people looking straight at that front yard where Jonno Keith's body would have been or John Keith would have been walking into the garage.

So I said, "Are you coming here with three followed by three question marks?" What time did the reclusion data indicate that John O'Ref's phone arrived at 34th February on January 29th? 12:24 and 28 seconds. As Dr. Lazada said, the only way that he would get that injury is if he hit his head on a ridge. So finding a surface that could have caused the injury to the back of John's head is not that hard. During the time for which John approached the breezeway, there were many ridge surfaces. But there's one in particular that many of the witnesses swore was located not where Jon was walking, but out by the mailbox. I wonder what that was.

Not only do I want to thank these women for bringing out their theories for which we can test. I want to go on their show not to debate, but to learn more information as to how and when the real killer Brian Higgins attacked John O'Keefe. And no matter what, we are not going to stop producing these videos until the real killer Brian Higgins is brought to justice. This crime was very simple to solve because it took place within a very small area over a very short period of time with

Sorry. It's how he always ends everything. He just blames Brian Higgins for it all, but I don't think Brian Higgins. All right, so that didn't really show us much of that, though. I wanted to see actually what these people say. Let me check out Will's Will. I'm going to snipe your channel over here, my dude. Um, oh, we saw De Chico for the first time apparently. This is uh he he looks like such a meat. I guess this is trooper to Chico, the guy that said, "Oh, [ __ ] her, bitch." Is he the one that said no ass [ __ ] That might have been the funniest but also most inappropriate text message in the whole trial. Just came out of nowhere. Like they asked her, what was it? Somebody asked him, "Was she hot? Was she a smoke?" And she's like, "Uh, Fall River." Proctor says, "Fall River accent. No ass." And just the comment after that is instantaneous. I think it was from Deico. He just goes, "Oh, [ __ ] her. No ass [ __ ] Who says that? Who Who calls someone a noass [ __ ] Where do these guy How do they find these guys? Oh, they're such scumbags.

Let me see real quick. Hold on. Yeah, I got you, Will. Um I don't want to do them dirt like that. Hold on. I need to uh thought we were running into a problem and we Here it is. Okay. Hi, we're live. Oh, hi. [laughter] Yeah, talking about everything. Um, so as Karen Allies painted Aaron as the real So, yeah, there's my girlfriend. Um, so Hold on. This is speaking of Julie Carpenter inside of Gillette Stadium. That's not good. There we go. Um, I never like that. This is the same blogger by the way that police officer John O'Keefe is tormenting the witnesses so much that according to him it quote makes him so hard when people get mad at him for it. Oh, this is me. It's all extremely viable, you guys. Oh, hold on. What is she? This is about me. Oh, man. How did this disappear? I need this stream in my life. She's talking about me. This is torment. I never saw anything like that in regards to Boston police officer John O'Keefe. is tormenting the witnesses so much that according to him it quote makes him so hard when people get mad at him for it. That's me. It's all extremely vile, you guys. This is the same blogger, by the way, that this is just now she's just whining about the way the guy talks about that it makes him hard to know that it pisses you off because the thing is is that you're defending Hold on. Not good. Still waiting on Julie. Over the past few years, there's been a conspiracy pushing PR campaign for Karen Reed. Oh, that's me. And her team has utilized unethical tactics to control a public narrative. And I don't say this loosely, the supporting evidence is all there. Um, several journalists have made it public knowledge that not only was the defense team whining and dining journalists as well as incentizing YouTubers who were pushing the conspiracy narrative with seats in the courtroom, photo ops with the murder defendant mid-trial, and even a dinner event to First of all, did I get any of those things? No, I got I didn't get invited to the courtroom. Ken doesn't want to be seen with me. Like, I got the exact See, this is how you know it's [ __ ] I got the exact opposite treatment. I got nothing from Karen Reed. [ __ ] nothing. Right. That yo, she handed me I worked for that [ __ ] I actually worked hard, right? I pounded the pavement. Me and Rich have been out there since day one. Pounded the pavement looking for answers. And so these they whine like you paid them off with a seat at a wooden bench for [ __ ] eight hours. That's not much of a thing, you know? And people like, Karen used you. Wake up, turtle boy. How did she use me? I like I wrote about the story before I even knew who she was. You know, like what are you talking about? Anyway, back to this. Applaud their efforts. They utilized platforms who would allow for PR puff piece articles like the two-part long form articles in the Vanity Fair by Julie Miller. That was a good Um, you all know how I have ranted and raved about Vanity Fair articles. Um, they not only omitted vital pieces of info in the case, but they've also pushed misleading and defamatory information regarding the Google search, among other things. Here comes Julie. These pictures Julie, we're live. Oh my goodness. Okay. Yes. Yes. Um, I already started kind of talking about everything. Um, so as Karen and her allies painted Karen as a real So, yeah, there's my girlfriend. Um, so who the is speaking of Julie Carpenter billboard the tables the home addresses of witnesses and that's not good. Oh, here we go. Victim the witnesses were simultaneously being villainized and dehumanized. The home addresses of witnesses and their families were leaked. Naked photos of the vict What do you mean the home the home addresses of the witnesses were leaked? It's called Google. Like you can just Google [ __ ] Do you ever heard the yellow pages lady? Like this thing that existed in like the 90s. It would just get sent to everyone's home. It just gave it was called the it's a gigantic books of doxing. That's what they It's called the yellow pages. It just says everybody's name, phone number, and address. And you can just do you just find out you just call them if you want or you just go to their house. You just do whatever you want. It's alphabetical so it's like easy to find people. But go ahead. Dumb John O'Keefe. His autopsy was leaked. Karen's cult following sent death threats to witnesses. Gave money to a blogger who wait A [clears throat] blogger. She mentioned giving money to a blogger and it just reminded me. Is that me? Um Oh nice. What's he doing? Give me money. Give me money. Come on. Is he texting me? What's he doing? Giving me money. There we go. Um, I never saw any autopsy pictures of John uh that were nude. Um, I saw what was shown in court. That's what I saw. I never saw anything like that in regards to Boston police officer John O'Keefe. She's talking about Natalie. Natalie is tormenting the witnesses so much that according to him it quote makes him so hard when people get mad at him for it. [laughter] It's all extremely vital, you guys. This is the same by the way that this is just now she's just whining about the way I love it. I love when they get so mad at me. She's like so serious too, you know? She's like hold on one sec this I love when they talk about my greatest hits. I know it's like, "Oh, he said he got so hard over when the witnesses are in their homes or something like that. He gets so hard about it." Well, a lot of things make me hard, dear. Um, but it's not a crime to get hard, believe it or not. It's also a joke, you know? I don't actually get hard over that. Like, nothing about Jennifer McCabe will ever ever make me hard. I promise you that. She's a boner killer. Um, so yeah, I just can't I was kidding. Like, so these people don't understand satire, I guess. But yeah, they're all humorless. They're so un They're so like miserable and serious all the time. It's like, have a little fun. Guy talks that it makes him hard to know that it pisses you off because the thing is is that you're defending murderers. That's true. Because science proved that Gary Lee did not strike John O'Keefe with her vehicle. True. And that John O'Keefe was not struck with a vehicle. Good point. Um, and therefore it must have happened in the house. It's the only place. I mean, yeah. Where else? It's just it's it's science and stuff, man. Yeah. Science and stuff. [laughter] Yeah. I don't know why you're you're up here acting like I mean, it's whatever gets Aiden off is what gets Aiden off. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. What about getting me off? What about What part did I jump to there about getting me off? I I get it. You know, I I there are other things that tend to arouse me other than things of that nature, but you know, whatever gets Aiden off is what gets Aiden off. And he's Yeah. It's called stupid April. He's just being He's wearing his heart on his sleeve, man. He's letting you know how he feels. That's all. You know, you should feel flattered. Yeah. You should feel flattered. That dude gets a chubby when he thinks of you being pissy while you're defending uh people who actually covered up the murder of a cop that you're acting like you're trying to get justice for. Fascinating. Yeah. Yeah. Prior attorney David Yetti is doing God's work. I'm gonna um play a quick David Yianetti was totally doing God's work and so was Bob Allessie. No, David Yianetti. See, Will, I love Will, but sometimes I listen to Will's show and I'm like, "Oh, bro, that's not what he's saying. That's not what they're saying." So, David Yianetti sent a text message to me. Oh my god. You guys get your head out of the cover there, Ally. [laughter] Stop it. Um, you guys are funny, but uh, what was I gonna say? Oh, yeah. So, David Yianetti was the one. Hold on. Attorney David Yianetti, praise, is doing God's work. I'm gonna um, play. So, David Yanetti told me in a text message that I was doing God's work. That's what he told me. And that is like uh you know like that they got that from some motion filed by Cosgrove I think in my case or something like that because they'd already been in my phones and they had remember they lied about being in my phones and we got him to admit it you know so that that was that. All right next let's play some more quick. David Yianetti was totally doing God's work. No and so was Bob Allessie. It's not what it is. Bob Allesie has some choice words when it comes to the cover up of the murder of Boston police officer John O'Keefe. What could be more egregious? What could be more misleading than that? Yeah, you know, I'll add it in a second. I'll add it. So, [clears throat] there also false rumors that the feds were coming any day now to arrest the witnesses for framing Karen Reed. Those were pushed out into the public. One YouTuber, Sean on the Gulf, he admitted that Karen Reed told him that the DA's office was wiretapped as [laughter] if a murder defendant would even have that type of information, but she sold it to them. Okay, Okay. We do not We do not We do not own Shawn of the Gulf. Like, you guys I I I'll grant you that we can't nobody on this side takes him seriously anymore. I destroyed Sean of the Golf a little over a year ago. Convinced the feds were coming any day, bro. First of all, [laughter] nobody gives a [ __ ] about about Sean on the golf. Sean on the golf and what he has to say. Nobody cares about him or his Five Guys or whatever the [ __ ] The guy is hilarious at best. At best. Sean on the golf is hilarious. Nobody is Nobody believes anything Sean says. Nobody with any common sense who know that Karen Reed is innocent like believe that Sha the Gulf brings anything about Bro, we can hear you, dude. Hear us. No, I don't even think everyone's like my mute button here. Can you guys hear me now? Oh my god. The whole time heard, bro. No heard. Did they say why they took this down? Does Does anyone know why they took this [ __ ] down? I'm generally curious. I have no idea why they took this [ __ ] down. The five guys. No, they're saying they could hear the whole time. Yeah, I'm getting a lot of text. They're talking about how Karen's team and her allies applauded kind of this nasty behavior that was going on. Um, let's see here. Okay. So, attorneys, oh no, I'm going to talk about this too. So, people who were silenced, um, there were many of them. Uh, the mob was trying to silence them. Uh, anyone who spoke out against the abuse. So, we had podcasters, YouTubers who spoke out against the conspiracy narrative. And when they shared their concern about the abuse that the witnesses and victims families endured like Karen's own cult following um it was rough. People like anger Julie Grant from Court TV was attacked. Nancy Grace journalist and Williams Phelps to name a few attorneys who had like they were attacked. They were criticized. Julie Grant said [ __ ] [ __ ] on the regular and so did M. William Phelps who literally only said Karen Re was guilty because he got mad at me. Like it was like one of the most worst turtle boy derangement syndrome afflictions I've ever seen. Right. And uh yeah, that's it. Shared their opinions that Karen is guilty also had their businesses [laughter] maliciously spammed with hate Rios. People from the general public, their children were called names and doxed. The mob wanted everyone to be silenced so that their voice was the only one. The actually utilized this to their own benefit. Never once [music] did I ever hear the defense team or Karen Reed ever speak out against the victim's family being harassed. Did I ever hear the defense team or care or tell the public that showing up in a child's sporting event this this is this is the this is what they're Oh my god. Can I give them some advice? No one's going to watch this [ __ ] This shit's boring as [ __ ] Like this is worse than Crusty. You cannot You can't have four. First of all, can we smile? Can you have a little fun, ladies? You gotta have fun. No one wants to watch your channel if it's just four miserable scaggs. Like look at them all. Look how miserable they especially this one. Look at that face. Look at her. How dry is her veg? I'm not even kidding. I'm not trying to be graphic or anything, but oh my god. Oh my god. Like a July day in Arizona. Look at her. And and I mean none of these people are having fun. You got to have some fun with it. Like, and what? You got to make the screens bigger. I don't know what shape that is. Why it's Why Why are you so small? You got the whole screen. Why aren't you using the whole screen? Can you? And you can't just get on here and be like the same old grievances. A blogger was mean. They were uh harassing the witnesses and being rude and there was seaman everywhere and the doxing and the children and it was just really bad. And there was a rolling rally and it was all bad and Karen Reed allowed it to go on. It's just like, bro, can we can you have a little fun? Can you have a little fun, please? Two screen killers. Can you shut up for a second? Who [laughter] is currently out on bail and facing 105 years in jail for I know that one. 90. Speaking. [laughter] Who's being silenced? What? Who? Yeah. Know what are you talking about? That's a good point. That's a good point. Family is not okay. There's silence who buys with Bethany regarding abuse and the 40 plus hours of phone calls and the encrypted apps that Karen and her attorney use with a blogger who degraded witnesses speculations accusations and baseless rumors. We see uh all of which are not illegal by the way. Alan Jackson, David. It's disgraceful and it's been extremely reckless. The witnesses are saying no more. The legal system needs to get involved. Enough is enough. Conspiracies repeated as facts have real ramifications. I mean, she's this is a show. She's just reading off a [ __ ] script while these other miserable dried up scaggs just sit there and like this blogger is out of control. [ __ ] everybody loves me cuz I'm fun. That's That's what's wrong with you guys. You're not fun. You guys need to have learn to have a good time on your show. Make it entertaining. Crack some jokes. Smile a little bit. Have a good time with Make fun of me. You know, do something. If you just get up there and you're just outraged about me, oh my god, the blogger is so mean. The blogger, the boring blogger writes article, writes writes blogs all day and harasses witnesses and they feel scared in their homes. And there was doxing and seaman on all the children. Like that's not fun. Have a little fun. This is boring. Let's go. We saw this, you guys, with the Sandy Hook families when Alex Jones pushed the narrative into the public. Oh my god. That their own children were never even real in the first place. Let alone that they were executed in school and that the corrupt government was behind the shooting or the shooting hoes, I should say. The families were not only breathing an unfathomable loss. They were enduring the most horrendous and nonsensical accusations. Other victims of many other casualties have also endured harassment. Yeah. Am I going to get copyright? Did we'll get copyright for this music? Did he I hope we don't get a copy. has come to mind is Shannon Watts, her parents. Okay, she was the um that's you guys wonder like what's what's the glare's problem with truth and transparency? That goes back to that [ __ ] Um I don't forget that kind of [ __ ] I think she's an opportunistic [ __ ] Um so, but yeah, make no mistake, these people don't even know what the [ __ ] they're talking about. They vet nothing. They'll just take anybody who will go with whatever narrative they're trying to push without vetting any type of this modern true crime social media sphere. And it's only going to get worse if we don't call it out and stand up for those who need a voice. So, this leaves lead to what and why we're here tonight. We um a group of us are planning on doing a weekly show on Thursday nights at 7:00 p.m. Eastern time on this YouTube channel. Okay. We're going to call the show the Thursday night show. Um what do we name it? They're calling their show the Thursday night show. Ser, that's it. The Your Thursday night show is called the Thursday Night Show. Tell me that's not the name of the show. Truth Matters. Well, well, well. Oh, god. I apologize. Okay. Truth Matters. Okay. I apologize. Guess who's going to snipe all their hate views at 7 p.m. on Thursday? Me. Me. Oh, we got Truth Matters Thursdays. That's right. Thank you, Billy. And then we're gonna attempt doing something on the weekends as kind of a unscripted truth matters and and they can't strike me on that because it's on my own website [laughter] because that's turtle club. So you can't report me. I own it. I'm just going to steal that [ __ ] scripted and that's going to be more of just a casual um chat. It'll probably be last minute planning. But for sure our

Thursday nights are set in stone on the weekends. Um, and what we're actually planning on doing is not only bring clarity to a lot of the misinformation that has been out there. Um, we are an open book here about the case. We are going to make sure every stone is >> we are going to expose >> the stones that you're unturning or failing to unturn are the ones that are in front of your face that you're defending.

>> Oh, they want me to watch. They put them back up. They just put them back up during the show. See, hold on. I got to see this. They just put it back up. Did they do this just for me? Okay. Karen Reed's Pinocchio complaint. What's this one? Okay.

>> Okay. So, the glare is streaming this live, which is actually against YouTube policy. So, feel free to go report his account. Um, [laughter] I mean, clearly he has nothing better to do without any original content. I think that's what he does. He just free streams people and Yeah, that's [laughter] okay. Um, yeah, report him if you guys can. Thank you guys so much.

>> So miserable. They're so miserable. Okay.

>> Oh, why can't I see this now?

>> So, it says the filing is up. Do you guys see it? No. No. You want >> I can see it in the little box, but I can't see it on the screen.

>> You know, it's too bad because she's pretty. I'll give her that. I don't know her name. What's the Tuesday Gazette's name? What's her name? I mean, she's pretty. She's attractive. You could Bad Lei. I could tell. I mean, all of them are, but like she if she could just lighten up a little bit, she could be a good time. We have a lot of good time girls on our side. They don't have any good time girls. I'll tell you that much right now.

>> I wonder if it's because our screen >> There you go.

>> Okay.

>> Hey,

>> sort of. Okay. So, we All right. Here we go. So, here's her filing. I think what is important I'm actually going to click out of it and back to us real quickly. Um I think what Oh crap. [laughter]

>> We're real professional.

>> Here we are. We're learning glare. It's not for use when it's live. It's actually against the YouTube policy. You can you can stream it when it's over by all means.

>> Is he in the chat now?

>> Someone just said he says it's fair use. Fair use. My sir gentleman is um is not when it's live. Okay. So, what is when we're looking at the document, the lawsuit, what is in the document is important, but even more important is what's not in the document. So, omissions are lies. Lies by omissions. I am actually trained in statement analysis, and that is one of the most common ways people lie, and it's an easy way to lie. Um, it can help create a storyline and remove context from things. So, when we look at Karen's lawsuit, which is about 40 something pages, and in this lawsuit, she is telling her story of what she's asserting happened that night, what the witnesses did, and how Jon died. And nowhere in this document does she ever mention her text data of her vehicle. And one would say, this is very important information for someone who was there dropping Jon off, right? her story and she doesn't want to mention some of the main evidence. And I am going to bring up this for us. And again, I truly appreciate your guys' patience as I'm learning to do this. One second here. So, we have the SUV data. Okay.

>> So, >> by the way, this is [ __ ] boring. It's [ __ ] boring [ __ ] By the way, I said, so Valerie says, "No way. His expenses are $500,000."

>> I'm going to post receipts for you. Every single bill I pay." Bet. Valerie, how much you want to bet? I've paid half a million dollars in expenses. How much you want to [ __ ] bet? I'll bet you anything. Anything you [ __ ] want. Put your money where your [ __ ] mouth is, Valer. Bet me $100 right now. Will you do it? Cuz you never put your money where your mouth is. $100 that I can't I got receipts proving that I paid half a million. $100. Do it. Do it. Come on. Do it. Let's see what you got. Put your money where your [ __ ] mouth is. I dare you to put money on that.

>> Go.

>> Why is this not showing?

>> Hold on. That is really weird. H Let me see if I can take us off. Here we go.

>> Oh, there you go.

>> Whatever. Okay. So, what we have here, so the things that are not mentioned by Karen is her vehicle data. So, Dr. Welchure, who is a accident reconstructionist, he's a biomechanics engineer. He was testifying regarding the trigger events of the vehicle. And he did this by matching up he did this several different ways actually. And one of those was he matched up Karen's vehicle mileage with her known locations of the night that John had passed away. Um, and I'm going to switch over real quickly to the other. This one will give us a better look here. Son of a gun. This is There's got to be a better way to do this. Okay. All right. So, Karen um actually says in one of her interviews, and one of the officers also testified to it, is that she made a three-point turn. If you can recall, if you're familiar with the case, uh or if you're not, so when Karen and John had left the bar and they were driving to 34 Fair View, they actually missed the turn to turn onto Fair View Road. And so she ended up making a three-point turn to go back around and then make a right onto Fair View. So we have that knowledge, right? That is a data point that they were able to work off of to understand where um when you're looking at the car when she actually made that three-point turn and what happened in sequence with that. So the vehicle itself has something called trigger events.

>> You know what? And these trigger events

>> [ __ ] boring, dude.

>> This is what their show is. I can't even want I'm bored already. um we'll capture forget it's that that garage is attached. However, there is no way to get into the garage.

>> Oh god.

>> What he was saying wasn't objective. So he was just giving

>> I'm going to go back to the glares version of this. This is a really boring version. Hold on.

>> Those stones. Uh what's up real nurse Kim?

>> Hold on.

>> A lot of details to get hidden and we're not going to do that because there's nothing to hide. the witnesses welcome being deposed um in court and this is all going to be hit head on. So with that said, I haven't actually shared the biggest fun part of our surprise. I am going to actually pass on to Carrie to share with us what the fun news is.

>> Okay. [clears throat] Hey guys. So like Tuesday said

>> So that's not Mama Llama up here. That's Mama Llama down here.

>> Why Why does everyone insist on looking like someone's foot? And honestly, the most exciting announcement that we have is is what we need to share what I'm going to share with you guys right now. So, for months, y'all have heard one side of the story dominating the conversation. And the people who were actually dragged into this mess, the people who lived it, haven't had the opportunity to speak for themselves. That's about to change. We're thrilled to announce that in our upcoming episodes, we'll be joined by some truly special guests, some who haven't been able to share their perspectives publicly. Carrie Roberts will be joining us. Chris Albert will be joining us. Brendan Kane will be joining us. John Jackson will be joining us. A lot

>> I I love that [ __ ] Chris Albert. God, I love that, dude. Dude, I love it so much. I love it so much. It's so good. This is amazing.

>> More of John's friends will be joining us and even more guests, special guests are lined up that we can't wait to introduce to you. Um, I think the most important thing to remember with all these witnesses, John's friends, John's family, these are real people, not the characters they've been turned into online or the villains they've actually been turned into online. And our goal is just to give them a fair place to talk. That that would be [ __ ] brilliant if there wasn't so much video footage and evidence of these people acting like complete and utter [ __ ] and lying in open court, lying to a grand jury, lying on their police statements, lying and lying and lying. Jesus. What's up, Olivia? Literally, nobody asked for this, but yolo. [laughter] I I bro I'm entertained by

>> have a counter claim. Um she named and you guys help me with this. It was um Brian Tully Proctor. So basically MSP CPD and then Brian and Nicole Albert um Jennifer McCabe and

>> Proctor Proctor can't even get a [ __ ] lawyer. Proctor can't even get a lawyer to represent him, dude. Like Proctor's so [ __ ]

>> Hold on.

>> So if you're an attorney out there, um please correct me. Please send him a message. But basically what happens is the parties serve each other motions and a lot of things have a tendency to get worked out behind the scenes before they hit the docket. And then once it's agreed upon, they file it as a package and that's when you see it on that fle docket. So

>> now earlier one of them was talking about we're not doing this for super chats and blah blah blah.

>> But the thing is though is they can't because they only have 578 subscribers. They're not monetized. They're like earlier, yeah, when my internet went out, this was still playing and one of them was like I think it was Carrie that was saying uh that Yeah, instead of super chats, donate to the to the Well, yeah, cuz you can't get super chats. There's no You're not monetized. You can't even run ads on your [ __ ] Like, what are you talking about?

>> I love the glare. Can we watch some of the show, Will? Let's go. Eupanic, Michael Proctor. Um, essentially you have to serve the individuals and then you can serve MSP and CPD as well as Brian Albert, Cole Albert, Madave, Jenn, and Brian Hans. So, she is suing them all for civil rights violations. Um, and so then at that point then the witnesses can answer and they did answer after about a week. We all saw it um the Wednesday before Thanksgiving and they are going to move it to federal court. So, the great thing about federal court is that there is no Ellen Jackson show. There is nothing for the cameras. It is very serious. It is the truth. Um, and so we are all very excited. I think you guys are excited. [laughter]

>> I mean, awesome. I I I mean I don't need a show. You know what I mean? I

>> And I don't That's what I mean. It's like I Okay, it's they they just Hold on. I love Well, but I got to change.

>> Hold on.

>> She hates She hates him. It's so [ __ ] crazy.

>> Hold on.

>> How much

>> police officer John O'Keefe because his killers his killers are still out there. According to a court of law, according to the investigation that I was involved in, these killers are out there. to be able to speak their truth in a forum that's not going to allow the dramatics. So, that is where we're at.

>> Thank you, Julie.

>> Yeah, thank you for summarizing all that. There's so much information coming out and I know that um

>> Julie Julie hates David Yianetti so much, bro. Like,

>> hates him. She hates

>> Oh, man. Hold on. There we go.

>> The defense attorneys. Um, I feel like she's quite objective.

>> She's there. She's there.

>> Yeah. Yeah. So,

>> she I mean, she got attacked on Twitter, too. I think she left Twitter.

>> She got she got her left Twitter.

>> Yeah. I mean, and I, if you watched that back and forth, you know, she was very civil and she tried to keep it above board and it was just one of those things where you could see what happened throughout the pendency of this case, there was no such thing as civil discourse between different opinions. That was not allowed. So, the second you didn't agree with the mob, it was just personal attacking the way you look, attacking what, you know, things that had nothing to do with the case. And I think it's a good point that it's really sad what's happened here. We're a um a country that believes in different opinions and you were not allowed to have that here. You were basically treated like you were

>> What are you talking about? Turtle boy went to jail for it. He got set up and thrown in jail for it. What are you talking about?

>> Well, human being, you were shut down. Like I think all of us at some point have shot comments to our posts. And it's not because we're not looking for civil discourse. It's because if we allow those comments, it's not civil discourse, right? It turns into um the situation where you have a ton of burner accounts and that's what they are when you really look at them. You know, they're newly created accounts with like free followers and they're just trying to drum up the algorithm so it looks like no one agrees with what you're saying.

>> [laughter]

>> say you don't believe in free speech because you won't allow people to comment. What you're doing there is not free speech. You're actually trying to drown out any opinion that doesn't break the viewers. So then you're creating this mob. You got 10 burners that you're you know, we've seen eating. We've seen burners come out and he's he's replying to himself. It's ridiculous and it's not it's not reality. That's what they've done online. Oh yeah.

>> First of all, the people that complain about that have all done that too. Who gives a [ __ ] [ __ ] parody accounts. Oh no, he's got a parody account. Mickey's cracking jokes online. Well, [ __ ] was funny. [ __ ] was funny. Who gives a [ __ ] Go ahead.

>> You're dead on. And I think that was one of the points that Catherine had made when Aiden went after her. She was like, for someone who says he advocates for freedom of speech, you sure want to silence people by shaming them and whatnot. And that's really I mean, what's the point of shaming people or doxing them? What is the point of that? I mean, your only real point of doing these

>> What if what if her stupidity is just something that just need

>> like does do they not realize how much their side doxes people? That's like all they do is docks. Put all your [ __ ] out there, you know, embarrass you, you know, talk [ __ ] about you. Like they're they're demented and they're like, "We're so above that. We don't do anything like that." [ __ ] you you're led by Crusty Panties. Crusty Panties. She's the most demented and deranged individual ever made. What are you talking about?

>> To be jarred out. You know what I mean? [laughter] What? What? What if that's all What if our stupidity is just something that just needs to be jarred loose? Bro, I don't know if that's how science works, bro. I don't know. [laughter] I'm just I'm just curious. I'm just curious.

>> And shutting down real arguments and real conversations is because you want to silence people, right? So, his job was to make sure that everyone thought Karen was innocent. That was his job. His job was not about free speech. His job wasn't about the truth. It was like, you know,

>> it was absolutely about that

>> macaroni and cheese and he was like, you know, saying every other brand is terrible. That's that's what he was doing,

>> correct?

>> What are you talking about? I Dude, that is [ __ ] fantastic. Did y'all hear that [ __ ] Did you all hear what she just said?

>> Everyone thought Karen was innocent. That was his job. His job was not about free speech. His job wasn't about the truth. It was like, you know, he was PR for Craft Macaroni and Cheese and he was like, you know, saying every other brand was terrible. That's that's what he was doing,

>> right?

>> Okay.

>> All of them where somebody has to break the awkwardness. That's usually

>> going to do, which is what they did for three years because then we never saw anything that they said they were going to do. But I mean, that's not a good move for them if that happens.

>> What is what is what what's their theory on why Karen Reed was why there was a mistrial the first time and why she was acquitted the next time? What's their theory on that? That

>> I love Will, but I got to go to one without commentary because I got to do the commentary. So, we're going to go back to the boring ass channel and watch some of this [ __ ] All right, let's just watch some of this

>> examples, right? Just he's putting the information out there and what whatever it is is whatever it is. That's just an example of how that could happen. Um, if you go back to the clip that we um Oh, and is not here. We had that that one.

>> Oh, I'm here. I'm here.

>> Picture with the last step so that everyone can see that. I think Jenny made that. It was a really great It's a really great visual.

>> Make that. Yeah, it's really be it's really beautiful. You did a beautiful job. So, this is the timeline. You can see that reversal event, right? You can see John step start 123156. You can see the the SUV back up.

>> Julie, I'm going to cut in real quickly. I meant to stop you for a second, but I wanted to address this comment I put up. Uh this person put, "Oh my god, you're relying I'm guessing on Gorino. He missed thousands of texts in the Birchmore case." Um so actually did math. So that's what we're we're going off of like [laughter] the 32 or the um where he would have to walk I think he said what 32 miles per hour to walk into the house and back to his phone. That's math. So I mean you can believe math or you can not believe math but I just wanted to um and he absolutely did not miss thousands of texts in the Birch Moore case. We've been over this time and time and time again on Twitter. I'm not even going to get into it. He did not.

>> Oh she's she's not gonna get into it. We've been over this on Twitter. Trust me, bro. We went over this on Twitter. He did. There was 32,79 text messages that he just missed. He said, "Oh, we I didn't see all those. We couldn't find all those. He deleted them. I don't know how to find deleted text messages." Oh, yeah. There they are. Sure thing.

>> Right. If you read the reports, he was talking about the phone and he was confirming that they had been deleted and the FBI went in and they got them from the cloud. I mean, it's he didn't

>> It's like the most ridiculous things that you got. You twist yourselves into pretzels to make 900 people framing Karen Reed. It's preposterous. It's preposterous. Sorry. Yeah. So, so here's the visual. Um, if you want to take a screenshot, Jenny did a really nice job with this. Um, but again, it's that 36 steps, right? So, there's no way around there's no way for Karen to get around the fact that there's only those 36 steps, right? I I've heard like ridiculous things about how supposedly um the witnesses got John back on the lawn, but you can't get around the 36 steps, the covered phone, the fact that if the phone was in his pocket and they carried him, it still would have registered steps. It's anything's possible, but it is highly improbable that they threw the phone um and it landed and I don't even think that that could happen either because the um base Doppler check kept checking and it was like as I said like twice what did I say like every half second it was checking so it would have been in the air and it would have noticed that it wasn't in a pocket state and that never happened. Um so if you remember the garage please remember that you can't get into the garage from the house. um the 36 steps. There's there's no way around those things. And when someone starts talking to you about location data, remind them that the defense was pulling on very low quality data. What

>> to put in there when Ian put together all of the

>> It doesn't matter. He wasn't hit by a car, bro. Just look at it. He's got dog bites.

>> He wasn't hit by a car. Like they have all these graphs and or we have this timeline and this, bro, he wasn't hit by a car. None of this matters cuz he wasn't hit by a [ __ ] car. I mean, really? I mean, and why are they doing this like six months later? I mean, what they're going to try to prove that Cameron Reed did it, I guess, because of the civil trial. They're really going to like, bro, how have they not walked away? Like, you took a bad L. It's been almost six months since they took that bad L. And they are still going strong with the L. They're just like, I'm not giving up. We're going to still insist on this. For what purpose? You guys lost,

>> right? So, the health data, the location data, um the the face offer checks, the battery temperature. When you put all those things together, John never moved from the flag pole. And so if you have multiple data sources,

>> okay,

>> coming together and they give you a very accurate picture of something, it's really hard to um deny it, right? Unless you go and you take the low quality. And here's another thing. If if the um the

>> this I just can't get over how [ __ ] boring this is. These people are so much more interesting on Twitter. At least on Twitter, it's like fun and lively and you see them and you're like, "Oh, they're going to say something [ __ ] They're going to get ratioed. You get to read all the responses to it. They're going to get sassy. They're so serious in person." Like, they're not. They're Is it me or is this boring? Yeah. I feel like I'm watching a human PowerPoint. Like, what is this?

>> Wealth was trying to frame Karen and they were trying to put only things that were negative about Karen in there. Why would he even put that data in his report? It doesn't make any sense. Ian was very objective and he presented it in a way um that wasn't he wasn't trying to make it that the phone never left or John never left the black hole. He was just trying to present what data was there in the phone and what data was there in the phone proved that John was outside on top of that phone all night.

>> I I just want to point out to you while we're

>> So John was on top of that phone all night. Then why did the battery temperature descend descend descend descend descend and then flatten out at 40°? Why? Why? Explain that one. If it was like 18 degrees outside, how the [ __ ] did that happen? Genius. You guys even gonna address that? Oh, wait. His body warmth. That's what they say. His [ __ ] body warmth is a [ __ ] cocoon somehow. It keeps it at a fresh for It's like a refrigerator apparently. Like, you're stuck. It's like what? It doesn't freeze. Your body doesn't freeze. The phone doesn't freeze because your body's on top of it. Stop it. Who believes that [ __ ] That's like saying if you had water underneath your body, right? If you had like like let's suppose your front of your shirt is covered in water, right? And you lying down on the ground in 18°ree weather for five and a half hours. You're saying that that water on your shirt wouldn't freeze because it doesn't go below it. It's It stays at 40 degrees because the water wouldn't freeze, right? Because it's above 40. Above 30° 32 degrees, right? That's That's what they're saying right now. Stop it.

>> At this. Look at where the steps begin. The time 123156.

>> Oh my god.

>> They end at 123216. And look at where the trigger event starts. Plus or - 5 seconds. But I mean, come on. His phone after those 36 steps, it never moves again until Carrie picks it up the next morning around 6 something um when she's getting the blankets off the ground. She also she saw John's phone. She fixed that. It never moved again. And that trigger event is right in line with when his steps started and when they ended. I mean that is like that is solid.

>> Bulletproof. It's absolutely bulletproof.

>> It's really sad when you see it, you know, when you read it and you look at it.

>> Very sad.

>> Very sad when you're listening to the trial and like all the stuff was presented. Like Ian went through it very in much more detail in the second trial and I the clip that I saved I saved it as Jack John's last moments and that clip that part of it made me so so sad because it means we had it down to the second.

>> I mean you can literally see with each data point what happened in his final moments.

>> And Jenny just made a good point. Um you can literally see on the police cash the police dash cam video when Carrie goes over and picks up his phone.

>> Oh my god. I'm gonna play that later.

>> I can't I can't watch these. I have to skip the title line. Can we get something interesting? Get something interesting.

>> Frankly, it just felt like a regular a regular cocktail. It was just a really weak pour. So, I asked for for a shot. So, for my taste, it just tasted like that's the normal strength of what a drink should be. So, I had maybe two or three that are only counted as four and six. And I don't know, I I felt fine. I felt like I was um and then there was one drink, the last one that was given to me, which I count as my sixth cocktail. The guys that were going around the shots and they gave me one that I didn't drink, but I poured it in my drink. So, that's now my fifth and sixth drink with the seventh, which is the shot that the

>> Oh, like why I I look back on this, I'm like, why does she talk so much? I I'm having flash. Was this the documentary or or was this the dine? I think this is the documentary. I'm just watching this and she's like just listen what Karen's saying here. I want to rewind this and put it on regular speed. And again, I'm a Karen Reed is innocent kind of guy. Always have been. But this is maddening to listen to. You're like, what?

>> So,

>> okay.

>> My alcohol intakes probably about five or six or four. The drinks that they were pouring me at McCarthy's, which is where I consumed most of the alcohol, was the weakest of the tonic. It tasted just like old soda water with lime.

>> And so for all the people out there saying, "Oh, Karen Reed can't talk right now. Wait till she talks." [ __ ] she was on trial for murder. She hadn't been acquitted when she made this, right? I knew there was a chance. She hadn't been like she could have been [snorts] there could have been a [ __ ] on jury. That was a possibility. And she's on there and she's like, "You know what? I like I go to the bar and I'm on trial for drinking and driving, right? And allegedly killing somebody even though I didn't do it. That's what they're claiming I am. So, you know what I'm going to go on TV and say? I'm gonna go on there and say that the drinks at CF McCarthy's are too weak. They don't have enough alcohol in them. So, I need to find a way to put more alcohol in the drink. And the same people out there, it's like this is madness. I mean, when you think about this, this is mad. Like, talk about unforced errors. And that's why I just [ __ ] laugh at all the people who are like, "She can't talk right now, bro. Her lawyers are probably advising her to talk." Did they advise her to [ __ ] talk then when like her life was on the [ __ ] line? You know what I mean? Her free now her life's not on the line. It's a [ __ ] civil suit. It's not the same [ __ ] thing. It's not right. And all of a sudden, she can't find her tongue. How does that make any sense? Um, not that I need it to be a martini, but it might have a splash of vodka in it. So, John, I said, "John, this drink he said has no vodka in it." He said, "Just get a shot and mix it yourself." So, she would So, each drink was being counted as a double. So, I would get a vodka and then I pour shot into it. So, that comes too.

>> So, she would I mean, why why [laughter] would you say this? I look back on this and I'm like, why? This is why she has to go be on probation for a year because she said all this [ __ ] This is what got her convicted of a DUI. Most DUIs are hard to get. Like a good DUI attorney can get you off of anything unless you go on TV and you describe all of the drinks that you had. You're like, "Dude, I I go to see if McCarthy's got a drink like a, you know, full of booze and you know, you know what the problem is? Not enough booze. So, I just buy a [ __ ] shot and I pour it into it because I [ __ ] love booze and I love and I was driving that night and that [ __ ] was dope. Un like I can't believe this [ __ ] [clears throat]

>> Frankly, it just felt like a regular regular cocktail. It was just a really weak pore. So, I asked for for a shot. So, for my taste, it just tasted like that's the normal strength of what a drink should be. So I have maybe two or three that are being counted as four and six and I don't know I I felt I felt like I was um and then there was one drink the last one that was given to me which I would counted as three but they're counting as my sixth cocktail. The guys that were going around shots and they gave me one that I didn't drink, but I poured it in my drink. So, that's now my fifth and sixth drinks with the seventh, which is the shot that all the the men did and I poured it. one last.

>> Why talk? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Do we need to hear any of this [ __ ] Why do we need to hear any of this [ __ ] You know what I mean? Like, why? According to Alan Jackson, this was all by plan. I don't know if I buy that, but like why do we need to hear any of this [ __ ] You know what I mean? She's saying she actually had three, but talking and talking and talking. Oh, I took put this shot in this and then we did a round of shots and we did. All I'm hearing about is booze, you know, and then I was buzzed, which is another word for drunk. You know what I mean? You could say it's not, but like shouldn't be driving. Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Again, free Karen Reed. Karen Reed's completely innocent. Um, but Karen Reed made her made it harder, made it closer than it needed to be with [ __ ] like this. I mean, Jesus Christ. bowl with has three drinks in it. A bottle of time and which is why John said to me, "You're not leaving that drink here." Like, you haven't touched it and just pour a bunch of wings like just take it with you. Which was something he always did. So then I go into waterfall and I put that drink down and I socialize most of the time. So that would have been like this sixth and seventh drinks. Then John orders me a drink of the water bowl that I don't drink that he takes with him. And then there was a round of shots that Chris bought that I did take. So that would have been that would have been the night. Um

>> Oh my god. I did not consume nine vodka martinis or take nine shots. Um depending on how

>> you're right. She didn't she's not wrong, you know? Well, it's like like okay, I get it. She's trying to explain it, but like you don't need to explain it. Like you just there's no need for it. Just be like, "Yeah, I had like three drinks, so I don't know what the [ __ ] you're talking about. I I didn't have six drinks. You check Check the receipt. I bought three drinks. So, I don't [ __ ] tell you. That's it. That's all you got to say. This is There's no need for an explanation, you know. No need. And the last two drinks I I didn't touch.

>> I would say I talk about it like a block time every 40 minutes. Okay. And so were you feeling like fun? And I'm not trying. I'm just trying to Yeah.

>> How did you feel after you got the car? And did you feel how

>> I wouldn't have got on the expressway? I wouldn't have gotten on the expressway at 12:15 on January 29th. I mean, it was quiet. The roads were very quiet. You can see it on the videos. Um, and I was going, you know, when I when I've had a few drinks and I drive, I always drive extra slows. I I know my my my alerts aren't aren't as sharp as they should be. Um

>> No, no, don't say my alerts aren't sharp as it No, we know you didn't do it. No,

>> but I should should have been driving.

>> I shouldn't have been Oh my god, I forgot she said that. Don't say that.

>> How she laughs about that.

>> I know. I was thinking the same thing. Sweet. Yeah. And and here come Okay. And here comes the dry vagge patrol, right? So, they're going to be up here and Okay. So, the problem is what she just said is handing it to the dry vagrol on a silver platter. They're just going to eat this [ __ ] up, right? Just watch. Like, they're not like I can't believe she's smiling. It's amazing how she's just smiling about that. It's so offended by this. Oh my god.

>> On her face like

>> Yeah. the entire time. The entire

>> guys, can you imagine saying, "Well, they counted as six. I only say it's three." I mean,

>> it just it's according to what type of math you do,

>> right?

>> I mean,

>> somebody else's fault, you know? I I said, "John, these are weak." And he said to them, and Chris Albert bought shots, and it's it's always somebody else's fault.

>> Yeah. She never takes responsibility for any of it. It's Yeah.

>> Crazy.

>> So, yeah. So, and then the next one is on there on her um complaint.

>> Which one is Oh, okay. Is it the outside? Oh, yeah. Okay.

>> No, I think it's the from

>> um I believe the evidence is all out and in part from Ian Whin.

>> Are you still disputing the 227 or I mean the the six?

>> Is this going on twice?

>> I think it's a good point though. They they had no um effort. I was I was gonna hit 227 for a second after. That's why you probably have that there.

>> They didn't disute any of it,

>> right? You guys, what is that?

>> What is what?

>> We only saw it once.

>> Yeah, it's a different clip.

>> I was going to go into 227 because in the complaint that's what you know.

>> Why do I hear a video playing right now? [laughter]

>> That is so weird. All right, good job. Dish doesn't want to hear any of this.

>> He does. He's um that wasn't the point. The point was it's the it's a person you love who has died in a horrible manner. And the fact that you were trying to make it like first of all, it's no big deal. Um second of all, you don't even know what happened and you're saying it's, you know, nothing. Um you don't know, excuse my language, but you don't know jack [ __ ] about this case. You don't know anything. So, sorry.

>> Yeah, he doesn't know anything.

>> Wait, what did he say?

>> I told Carrie earlier that I need to like get popcorn.

>> Why does Why does this say holy Toledo? Why do they leave the same comment up the whole time?

>> Go off on someone. I can just like start eating. [laughter] The autopsy photos for me are incredibly upsetting. Um, most of the time families never see those photos until um until the trial and they're shocking when they have to see them. think you guys know um some people that are watching this might know my son's friend was killed and when they showed his autopsy photos there was an audible gasp it it was horrific

>> and the fact that they did that to the O'Keefe family I I will

>> I will never forgive Karen and Aiden for that and it all comes down to the fact and Yetti even said it as well the body is the best evidence he was a human being and that that you took away his dignity and

>> yeah because that also took away his dignity when they murdered him inside Brian Albert's house and threw him outside in the lawn like trash. They definitely murdered, killed his dignity when that happened. What are you mad at me for? The body does tell the story. The body shows she hates David Y. You know, the body does show show that John was beaten up and then bit by a dog. We'll watch a I can't listen to this this much longer. What is with Julie Carpenters's background there, too? Is that cheap wallpaper? What is that in the background? I don't even know what kind of green screen is that. Where is she sitting? Oh, they're so miserable.

>> Flash those everywhere. And people constantly put them on the internet. It's a horrible thing. It's absolutely horrible. I I just I don't understand how you don't get the human part of this. And how you're so desensitized to the fact that this was a human being who had people that loved him.

>> I mean, and it's your body. I I imagine if it's your own body and your naked body is being leaked online. The last

>> But you're dead. If I'm dead, I don't care what's happened to pictures of my body. You guys can all look at my, you know, dead [ __ ] when I'm dead. I mean, some of you guys are gonna have your own molding, so it will live on forever, right? But I don't care if you guys look at my dick when I'm dead. I don't care because I'm dead. And these people are really offended by that. Is I've not seen John O'Keefe's dick. I don't know if anybody else if they've seen John O'Keefe's dick. I never saw it. But they're really mad about that. Who cares? They're dead. He's dead. If I'm like, that's what they're saying right now. It's like, can you imagine this? Listen to what she got. You guys don't believe me? Listen to this. Listen to what she just said.

>> Love him.

>> I mean, and it's your body. I I

>> imagine if it's your own body and your naked body is being leaked online. The lack

>> he's dead. Imagine if your naked body is being leaked online. John O'Keefe's naked body. He's dead. He doesn't see any of it because he's dead. And by the way, you can all look at my naked body when I'm dead. I don't care. You could do it when I'm alive. I don't care, right? It makes no difference. At least you can have embarrassment when you're alive, but when you're dead, who cares? Who cares?

>> Of human decency is disgusting. And I think this goes into the true crime culture here is I feel like many years ago there was, you know, people who I'd say in the true crime sphere, there was this advocacy and care for victims. And since this online world has just gone a muck, it's almost like anyone's tragedy has become a playground for people. It it becomes their own story that they're allowed to just use and exploit. And this is I mean, John's a grown was a grown man, but this is still someone's son. This is still someone's brother. This is still a man who deserves dignity and respect. And the court system, we got to trust the court system to play these things out in court, not trial by media before even a trial goes on. It's it's awful. It's it's extremely disrespectful. And I I really encourage people to consider how they would feel if their own son, brother, whatever, husband, wife was treated this way online.

>> Great. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's the bottom line. They've they've lost the ability to put themselves in other people's shoes.

>> Completely lost it.

>> No, it's like their characters. And I I think this goes into the witness intimidation stuff, too, is that

>> Oh, for [ __ ] sake.

>> The way they have turned all these people into just characters, caricatures, um by, you know, again, I am very

>> into linguistics and and statement analysis. And there's things

>> I have never seen somebody less fun than this individual right here, this Tuesday person, right? I mean, just she's pretty, too. That she's such a waste of a pretty face. She's cuz she's not fun. She's not fun

>> with how and it's used in cult culture as well is you use terms, you name things a certain way to give it its own um meaning. And when you call the witnesses the Mc Alberts, oh no.

>> You are basically um trying to create them as one entity.

>> And you're you're being disrespectful and you're creating an image that they are not individuals. You're not

>> Oh my [ __ ] god. It's just an abbreviation. It's easier than saying the McCabes and the Alberts. We just call them the Mc Alberts cuz they basically are one gigantic family. Like you've seen their family pictures that like it's like it's a it's as close if a family could be a cult, the Mc Alberts would be it. And like these are the least fun people ever. They're like it's not fun to use the word McAlbert. It's actually not funny. It dehumanizes them. It takes away from their individuality. And we need to stop doing that because they have their own individual names. Jennifer McKate, Matt McKate, Brian Albert, Nicole Albert, Brian Albert Jr. Caitlyn Morris. They're individuals and I'm really holy Toledo. I am really upset about this. Oh my god.

>> People. There's not a bunch of people in the story line. And um it it allows for context to be missed and it's just disrespectful. It's it's it it turns it into a game and entertainment for people to just run around pitchforks.

>> Well, now they're calling them house defendants.

>> I was just going to say that. That's a new word. New word. Yeah.

>> Oh, it's

>> I mean there was there was quite a few people in the house.

>> Um they're not all defendants,

>> but I digress.

>> All right, Gary, is there more stuff you want me to post here?

>> Well, I was going to just hit on 227 just for a little bit. I know. I mean, this is I feel like 227 couldn't be more debunked if you try, but as you know, I just was sitting here glancing at the glar's chat for a second. Um I think 20 people all posted, you know, 227 happened. I don't I don't know what more he said to

>> to

>> Yeah, Richard Green never even testified in the second trial. He did not testify, you guys. His affidavit changed. They morphed.

>> People say this.

>> Yeah, he didn't testify in the second trial because they weren't pushing the conspiracy angle as much. They were just pushing the let's get the [ __ ] out of here. John O'Keefe wasn't hit by a car. So, what are we doing? Why try to

convince them? Why reinvent the wheel? Why try to convince these people of what is clearly obvious that Brian Higgins, Brian Albert, and Colin Albert beat the [ __ ] out of this guy and threw him on the line like trash. That's a lot of work, you know, and they're all gonna lie and drag this out and we're going to have a whole thing.

Or we could just not call any of them and just get Dr. La Pasada up here and just say she'll say over and over again, he wasn't hit by a car and then that's [ __ ] it. And then they'll kind of figure it out from there. Wait a minute. If he wasn't hit by a car, how'd he die?

>> Oh, the house defendants. That's right.

>> Face anymore. I don't think they're listening.

>> He's just rambling.

>> Yeah.

>> I mean, it's literally Celbrite and then we have Jessica Hyde who used to be the director for Axiom something part of Axiom. I mean, these are leading professionals in the industry and then you have Richard Green.

>> Yeah.

>> Who did not testify.

>> So, you are willing to just disregard and I I feel like it's because they don't really understand the software updates and how all that works and and the parsing of information,

>> right? We can get into that down the road sometime,

>> right? I mean, we know that it was the last tab open time stamp for Safari, right? And the same time, open time, open tab is what was used later at 6:23 and 624 when Karen asked Jen to Google how long to die in the cold, which by the way, she also asked the either firefighter, EMT, I can't remember what it was. I think he might have been the firefighter, how long it would take, how long someone could survive in the cold without their coat on. How would know that that John was out all night? Why would she ask that if you know why why would she ask that?

That's >> right. She saw him go in the house. Why would you think that?

>> Out there for five minutes, but she asked how long it would take.

>> Why would she ask that? Because he was out there. She found him in the cold. That's why she would ask that. She's like, "How long could he have been out here?" Right. That's why she would ask that. Go ahead.

>> And you know how long it would take for how long it could last out in the cold.

>> Um Richard Green didn't even show up for the second trial.

>> And Whiffen didn't even he didn't he didn't just explain it. He showed it to all of us. You're right. Honestly, did it.

>> Oh, they got to Yuri. What happened?

>> Show you clips, too. See?

>> Okay. Yeah, I think this is the one here.

>> When she provided us with the fact that she dropped him off and never saw him go in the house, she was asked to provide details about her leaving. She stated that she made a three-point turn and left. Point.

>> Did anybody else other than people that you talked about previously come into your house?

>> No.

>> And specifically John Oi or Karen Reed that you saw?

>> Was that not the ones? [laughter] That is one of theories, but that's not

>> the one you played earlier where Karen was walking out of court. It's all clipped behind that.

>> Gotcha.

>> Like that's just one long clip.

>> Gotcha.

>> From Richard Green in this trial.

>> No.

>> Why not?

>> Uh I believe the evidence is all out and in part from Ian Whi.

>> Will you are you still disputing the 227 or I mean the the 6:00 the time stamp of

>> um that's been addressed. Are you still

>> And sir, um, when you were trying to examine these searches, in your opinion, it was 62.

>> Oh,

>> so so that extraction was done. 227 time stamp did not

>> Oh my god. Talking about 227.

>> Then the software update happened and the parsing of the data changed and that's when the parsing they were parsing last.

>> Okay. Yeah.

>> Not not a good data analyst.

>> It's just so funny how with Brian Walsh, it's not even up for debate. Oh, of course he said of course he did all that [ __ ] because that's what the subre says. So, end of story there. All right, cool. Um, all right. Let me read some more turtle chats because this is boring. I I get bored with this [ __ ] All right, I did not realize how boring. I thought that was going to be more entertaining. That was incredibly boring. All right, let's refresh this and read some turtle chats, shall we? man. All right. All right. Who do we got here? What was the last one I read? Hold on. Let me refresh this joint. read that one. All right. I forget which one we were on here. Don't mind me if I've read yours already. Okay. Um, did I read Jennifer Ksky already? Said $25 and says, "What an incredible inspiration you are. chin up and keep your journey trucking. Well, thank you, Jen. I appreciate that. Um, Linda from Quinsey sends, did I read this one? 10 bucks. Keep on keeping on fighting all the corruptors. You are wonderful and we are blessed for the turtle theater daddy. Well, thank you so much. I appreciate that. I'm blessed to have you guys as supporters. I definitely think I read this one from Joe that's a hundred bucks goes, "You are stronger than them all. Keep up the good fight. Thank you for your sacrifices and hard work. I definitely read that one. Okay. Um All right. So, um Anonymous giver sends five bucks goes, "Aidan, you're kind and a smart guy and always remember you're a good person. You're a good from a good family. You have fans who have your back. Stay courageous, bro." I definitely think I read that one. Okay, that one sounds familiar. All right. Wendy sent a 100. I'm not sure if I read this already. She said, "Your voice matters now more than ever. You had the courage to stand up and advocate to corruption. Keep pushing for the truth and defending the rights of all to express themselves. Stay strong." Thank you so much, Wendy. Anonymous giver sends 50 bucks and goes, "All the prayers, love, and support." I appreciate that. Anonymous page B. Is this the page B from South Carolina? Old friend PHB sends 20 bucks and just says three turtle emojis and couple heart emojis. Thank you. Oh, stupid April's in the comments. She sends 20 bucks and goes, "The fridge is down again, Daddy. I tried fixing it myself, but this job definitely requires another set of hands." Oh, I'll be right over it. But your fridge some Are you breaking it on purpose, stupid April? How many times can your fridge break? I apologize. Tina sends five bucks, 25 bucks and says, "For five minutes of counsel, best wish. Fight on. Stay well. Merry Christmas season." Yeah, that might get me an email. I might get an email out of that one. Uh, so thank you for that one. Um, all right. Next. Holy Toledo. Geez Louise. Um, Mary sends 20 bucks and goes, "There's lots of corruption at the MBTA. Read the info I sent you on the Finity case to see how deep it runs. I'd love to see you expose it all. Keep up the great work, Aiden, and ignore the haters instigators. Yeah, I am so happy. Like, ah, [ __ ] I never got to write about that. This this whole story, this horrible story about this guy named Dave Finery. He's an MBTA cop who was convicted in federal court of like falsifying a police report or something like that. Some [ __ ] or signing a false police report. I don't know. one of his underlings beat the crap out of a homeless man or something who was like out of control and uh he what wasn't even there but he signed a report that the other guy wrote and he and the other guy who did the beating didn't go to jail and wasn't convicted anyway Dave got convicted like in federal court like they it got thrown out in state court it was dis they're like we can't move forward they got nothing here but they pursued it in federal court and he ended ended up getting convicted and he was facing 20 years in jail and he's got two little girls my kid's age too. I went over his house. They live in Rutland and I went there and uh you know I got to meet them him and his lovely wife and it was like in late August I was there and I wanted to write about the story. I just never had time and I'm good thing I didn't because he was he had already been convicted at that point and he had sentencing coming up and if I had written about it I might have angered the judge. So, I didn't write about it because they were like, "Ple, please don't because we just don't want to anger the judge." And he ended up getting probation, but he is still convicted. So, they are like appealing it. So, I I'm trying to help him out there because it's just man, imagine that. I just kept thinking I'm like, "God damn, these poor little girls have no idea, you know, what is happening to their dad and he might just be gone for like years." Like that. Imagine that. Imagine how good that ride home must have felt if you were them. that you get to ride home and like I texted her on Thanksgiving. I'm like just enjoy your Thanksgiving, you know, because that's a gift you got. Like you this he he could have been Thanksgiving in jail. That would suck. Oh my god. You know, so as someone who's been to jail before, it sucks. It's definitely overrated. Next. Roast beef Ronnie sends 10 bucks. Goes, "Fuck you, Turtle Boy. That's freedom of speech, baby. [ __ ] you, Turtle Boy. Vagina Mike and I are slinging pizzas at D&E. Stop on by. [ __ ] you, Turtle boy. You're a [ __ ] bully. Bullies are cameras. Bullies are cameras. I was showing uh a friend of mine some of the uh who she's new to this. She's new to the Turtle Boy thing. It's funny talking to newer people with this and that um and just like I'm like, "Oh, yeah." And I just showed her all the old hits, you know? We watched them all and I'm like, "Oh, check this one out." She'd never seen the Roast Beef Ronnie one, you know? She'd never seen like so many of these. I'm like, "She's sick." So, you stood outside of De Pizza for how long? I'm like, God, like an hour and a half. Just stood there with signs saying like blood pizza. It's a [ __ ] joke. That [ __ ] was hilarious. That was hilar like that made it fun and it was all just in good fun. You're going to call that witness intimidation. Just so ridiculous. All right. Um Amy sends 25 bucks goes, "Making history isn't easy. Your kids will be very proud of you. P.S. I'm not related. Well, thank you very much. I hope to make my kids proud one day. I do. I do. We're at the age where my kids are starting to like pick up on my conversations. You know, I got to they were in like I used to like be able to talk with, you know, like lawyers and stuff with them around because it didn't matter. But now they're going to start picking up on [ __ ] I have to like go in the other room, you know? So, thank you for that one. Next. [sighs] Angie sends five bucks. Goes, "One more thing before I forget. Shout out to my girl Gracie. You will probably be watching on replay. Love you friend and my husband Joshua who has put up with me talking about both of your and Karen's cases over the last few months. But he almost also doesn't realize Turtle Boy gets him laid more than he knows." Yes, he does. Yes, he does. Uh Diana sends 30 bucks to free Turtle Boy. Thanks for defending our First Amendment. I've never wanted to be like a white man before, but you inspire me. That's okay. That's a first. You'll be breaking new stories soon, and we'll be waiting. Well, thank you, Diana. Anonymous sends 25 bucks. Goes, "I'm so glad to you fight for the right to free speech. Never give up. Better is worth every penny." Exactly. I'm like, I'm not doing this without Better. No. [ __ ] You got to be out of your mind. operation like I don't care what it takes. Luckily, I got it, you know what I mean? But like that [ __ ] go like you work hard for your money, you know? And then it's like boom, you got to pay it, you know? It's a business expense. It costs money. Cost to do business. All right, next. Because I can't go to jail. I'm way too pretty to go to jail. I've been to jail once. Never again. Next. Emily sends Oh, no. Anonymous sends 25 bucks and says, "Free turtle dove." Thank you. Emily sends five bucks to go cross-examination for Brian Albert in 30 seconds. Better. You're an ex- policeman, right? Albert, correct? Better. And during your service, you would contact dangerous criminals every day, right? Yes. You've arrested murders before. Yes. And yet you want this jury to believe you were intimidated by a journalist asking you questions. Exactly. That guy over there. That guy, he's 5'8 and 3/4. Okay. 170. maybe ranged 170 175 pounds. That guy over there, he is a uh you're scared of him. You're intimidated by him. Okay. Okay. Why? What's so intimidating? Well, you know. Okay. Well, that now now we're making sense. So, thank you. All right. Next. Jersey K sends 10 bucks goes, "You've done so much to expose corruption. You at least deserve your legal fees." Hold on. Where'd it go? Why is this freezing? Yeah, you at least deserve your legal fees paid. Karen should be ashamed of herself. She should be helping you, not tearing you down. Just horrible. Well, thank you so much. Janice sends $100. Thank you so much, Janice. I appreciate that. She has no comment, but uh I appreciate that. Jill from West Texas sends 25 bucks and says, "Sending all love from your West Texas tattooed internet side chick." You got this. I have an internet side chick now. Tatto because I like I like chicks with tattoos now. I'm into that. I didn't used to be into that. I really like them now. They're cool. Um John sends 20 bucks and goes, "Keep fighting the good fight. It's amazing the trolls who come after you who previously thought the charges against you were [ __ ] but now their feelings are hurt. So, I guess now it's okay for the corrupt Norfolk DA to continue with the bogus charges against you. I guess they support corruption if it's directed at someone who hurts their feelings. Hope they are proud of their stance. Exactly. Like all these people out there that like, you know, they agreed it was [ __ ] when I was arrested. like it was kind of universal amongst freak can't read people like this is wrong and then all of a sudden I say some things that offend you and you're like yeah actually like that he went too far imagine saying that imagine like supporting me and being like yeah I got your back yeah you're doing great work and then like you went too far what where' that come from so you just didn't believe it like okay anyway Next, Jerry sends five bucks and goes, "Listen, Turtle, I wish I could give more. I never say that, Jerry. I appreciate that." Uh, Laura sends 10 bucks. Goes, "Do the Mcalberts get paid when they are played in the docu series?" No, no, no, no. They get nothing. Thank you. Mia's SweetCake sends 10 bucks goes, "I support you, Dr. Daddy. You are an inspiration. Keep up the good fight and keep being you." Thank you so much, Mia's Sweet Cakes. Um, anonymous giver sends five bucks and goes, "Look at something. Look at something off's latest video on their channel about McAlbert donations, fraud, and donations being removed." Okay, thanks. Um, anonymous sends 25 bucks and says, "You are courageous in the full sense of the word. Courage comes from the Latin word meaning heart. Initially, initially meant the ability to speak one's mind fully. It represents the inner strength or heart to face challenges and having the heart to speak openly. A form of vulnerability, not physical heroism. Well, thank you. That was deep. Anonymous sends 10 bucks. Goes stay above it. Stay above it. That's the plan, man. You know, there's a lot of distractions out there. It's like I just got to stay above it. Like, period. I just got to let them say what they say, you know, kind of scream into the void. I'll keep doing what I do over here. Focus, focus, focus. Come up with some cool new stories. Find some [ __ ] Write about it. Get old school on here and forge ahead. That's the plan. That's the plan moving forward. And let's have fun. It's all about fun. Period. And just let them I mean, crust the Crusty Panties of the world, they're never going to stop. There's like there's nothing they doesn't matter how in vain they are. Just let them continue to cry about you for eternity. There we go. Anonymous sends 25 bucks and says, "Uh, nothing. Thank you." Uh, Jello Kitty sends 10 bucks. Goes, "This is my first time donating. I support your cause. I've been following along since the spring of 2025." Well, welcome aboard. You came on at a good time, right around the trial. So, that's cool. Um, what else do we have here? Um, anonymous giver sends 50 bucks and says, "These chicks are boring. I guess we need to talk about your dick some more. I mean, that's what it comes down to. That's what it comes down to. Uh we can never get I mean, there's a lot to talk about. There's a lot to talk about, but uh you know, we can't talk about that all the time. We save that for Thursday nights for sex, don't we? So, um let me read in. Do we have any cash apps here? All right. All right. Uh, Ashley sends Jesus Christ. Ashley Flood, it's hot, too. Jesus Christ. She sends 250 bucks. Jesus, I like you a lot. Says, "Please use to clean up the seaman." Seammen everywhere. There's a lot of You're right. You got that right, Ashley. Uh, geez, that's gonna be on my mind now. Uh Lisa sends 50 bucks and says this librarian loves you. I know that's Lisa Desmond, my favorite denim librarian from a few years ago who uh you know ma they she made some noise when they took away the goddamn Christmas tree from uh the Dim Library and made it made national news. So thank you so much. Barry Lewis. My guy Barry Lewis sends $24.90 and says conspiracy to sabotage turtle boy Christy Satroni. She's not sabotaging Turtle Boy. What are you talking about, Barry? I love you, Barry. But I don't know. Hashtag Christy was right. So there's that. Um Emily sends five bucks and goes, "How old is Vagina Mike's girlfriend?" Lol. I don't know. I've heard rumors 72, but yeah, I I have no I'm not standing by that at all. I I don't even know how old Vagina Mike is. Is Vagina Mike over 50, you guys think? He probably is, right? I would guess. I mean, Vagina Mike is just so angry these days. Like, I haven't even I see him online. He's like going at Rebecca Lavoy. Like, I love Rebecca Lavoy. She's great. Um, and she's had some, she's a really level-headed lady who doesn't even agree with me on like 95% of [ __ ] but she gets it, you know? She gets it. She follows along and she gets it. And she's been doing some interesting podcasts on this. And, you know, she's Is she actually 73? Holy [ __ ] Yeah. Check out some of Rebecca Lavoy tweets. They're interesting. But, um, Mike is uh is just really mad at her. It's like, bro, he's so mad these days. But I'm so happy. Are you happy? Are you happy, Turtle Boy? Again, let let's watch some of that vagina Mike video one more time. Let's watch some of my own [ __ ] because these [ __ ] are boring as [ __ ] If you guys didn't see this, so I'm going to be stepping aside and he made a really epically cringe video that I laughed at first, but then I'm like, you know what? I got to respond to this. It's just too funny. So, let's take a moment and enjoy the greatness that is vagina Mike Crawford. Let's do it.

>> And it is a good morning. Look at me. I'm in my penthouse suite having a great day. I like the little boy who went and cried last night

>> and didn't tell the truth about the time he sent me.

>> Stop right there. The little boy who cried. Do we have to go back to Christmas in 2023 when yours truly got his bail revoked and went to jail for 60 days? What did Vagina Mike Crawford do? Let's go watch the tape.

>> Let's find out.

>> Leave the witnesses alone. Some of these witnesses are victims. That's another thing where they try to go after me for intimidation. I feel bad for these witnesses. A lot of them, these so-called witnesses, they're getting used just as much as uh anybody else. Like they're being used by the state police and the You got that? Jennifer McCabe, Brian Albert, Colin Albert, they're all victims in this. The witnesses are victims. Leave them alone, guys. Stop asking them questions. Leave them alone. They're being used by the state. It's not Jennifer McCab's fault they're lying. It's not Brian Albert's fault that they killed Donald. Just leave them alone, guys. Leave them alone.

>> big tough guy. M Cropper. What else you have to say?

>> Right before Christmas two years ago. Ruined my Christmas. Didn't give two [ __ ] The little boy. The little boy who got who got himself in trouble again like he always does.

>> Oh, did I ruin Mikey's Christmas? Just to review, Christmas Eve December 2023, I got this audio. First of all, I'm wanted out there. There's like, you know, Bolo, the guy's out there. There's his rumors that he snapped he should have his girlfriend. Who knows, right? And so, obviously, I want to get the word out that I'm innocent. I got an audio recording of that. And so, I send it to the wrong guy,

>> Vagina Mike.

>> I send it to Vagina Mike. And Vagina Mike tells me, he makes, he listens to it, and then he makes a post. Oh my god, Turtle Boy's innocent. Uh, you know, this audio shows that uh he was trying to leave and she would have let him and blah blah blah. And then he gets threatened by Crusty Vanity. Crusty Panties messages him and says, "If you play that audio, you're going to jail. You're going to jail. You're going to be in big trouble. You're next." Instead of just saying, "Screw you, Crusty Panties." He cries. He literally quits and does an entire

>> whole show on December 27th and December 28th about being nice to witnesses and just leave them alone and then somehow makes it all about him.

>> So again, I just want people to know uh I believe I am the subject, a target for this whole [ __ ] right now. And so I'm going to be stepping aside uh in terms of not doing quite as many live shows and not the quite the same content. That's right. Vagina Mike tapped out. Took some time off. He thought that the state police were actually looking for him. You got that? This guy. This guy right here. Vagina Mike.

>> Yeah.

>> I believe that I'm a target of the North County Massachusetts state police. And I want people to be aware of it. And I also am giving a warning to the movement for free reed. Be careful of what you say online. Be careful of what you're talking about. Don't focus on the witnesses. Don't say their names. Especially this woman. Don't say her name. The state police thought he was going to be the next target because apparently doing a show that nobody watches makes you some sort of threat to the state that they're going to come after. News flash, Mike, nobody cares about you. Literally, Brian Tully has never thought about you once. He he knew your stupid show to the Calcom home. Nobody cares about you, bro. But he had to make it all about him. Mr. dramatic. Mr. Oh, I'm a big tough guy. He's being a big tough guy today, isn't he? He wasn't so tough on December 27th, 2023, was he?

>> No.

>> Go after me. Now, this isn't a definite thing. This is not decided. I don't I could be wrong. They could they could be getting ready today to pick me up.

>> They're sure trying and I know that they're thinking about it and I would not be surprised if I'm part of this grand jury. Like that's that this is a slippery slope. They're going from turtle boy to me.

>> What?

>> I'm the guy who has the credibility that I've had US Senator Ed Marky on my show for 1 hour interview.

>> Oh jeez.

>> It's come to my attention that I am definitely a target right now.

>> Are you?

>> So think about that. Think about people are like how could you be a target? You're you're not like turtle boy. You're so safe.

>> You are safe. That's where we are right now.

>> You're very safe.

>> So, this is reality. This is reality right now. They're going after me.

>> So, one thing I'm looking for is uh criminal defense attorneys. If you have any good good criminal defense attorneys, especially Northshore based, let me know. I'm looking for them. So, again, I just want people to know uh I believe I I am the subject, a target for this whole [ __ ] right now. And so, I'm going to be stepping aside uh in terms of not doing quite as many live shows and not the quite the same content. That's right. Vagina might quit. when the going got tough, vagina might quit. He had this crazy thought in his head. Oh, they're coming after me. Crushing panty said, "They're coming after me." Oh no. Oh no. And instead of, you know, standing up and continuing to fight for Karen Reed and John O'keefee and, you know, Turtle Boy. He was literally just put in jail over this [ __ ] He's like, you know what, guys? I'm going to quit because I'm not like Turtle Boy. I'm not made for this stuff. I'm made to talk about weed and and have beef with Grant Smith, but I'm not really about actually fighting corruption and putting my life online because I'm a huge freaking [ __ ] at the end of the day.

>> That's true. That is true. It's a good point, Turtle Boy. Okay. All right. So, let me just refresh this one more time. I'm gonna end kind of early tonight. Um, honestly, just not let me re um let's see. Kate sends $20 and has no comment. Thank you so much, Kate. Anonymous sends a hundred bucks and goes, I think this too. Karen should be helping you. You know, I think that bridge is P is you know, I would it's just not I think we're past that. You know what I mean? Would have been nice. Would have been nice. Absolutely. Would have appreciated the support since, you know, I definitely supported her cause, but uh you know, not really a two-way street. I guess that's fine. Next, Jody sends a 100 bucks. Goes, "Merry Christmas, Turtle Boy. Keep fighting with your head held high. Back out all the noise and distractions. We stand with you every step of the way." Well, thank you so much, Jody. You're too nice. So yeah, you know, um yeah, am I tired? I'm not tired. It's just uh maybe just tired of it all. You know what I mean? Like I get it's hard. I'll be honest with you, real like it's usually I'm like a really like people said I seem down on the bus stop live this morning and I am. Yeah. Like I'm not I like I'm down. I am like and it sucks because like when you have to get on here every night and be happy and perform and [ __ ] right? And then you're just not feeling it. Absolutely. And you got it's like it's just not there. You know what I mean? It's just not like it sucks. You know what I mean? It sucks. It's like it's that like I'll I'll get back up. I always get back up and because of you guys, you know what I mean? But like, you know, you just see all these it's like it sucks. You know, nobody wants to deal with it's like the per like when I had like jerkoff videos released a few years ago, you know, um or screenshots of messages get released all the time or betrayal happens all like [ __ ] like that happens all the time. sucks. Especially when it's like people that you liked, people that you know thought you had, you know, you thought they had your back and then they're like kind of like [ __ ] you, bro. Like, I'm out and I'm gonna try to destroy you now. It's like, you're not going to destroy me. I'm going to rebound, but for now, yeah, you got me. You got some hits in. And it's like, and uh, you know, but then you got to come in the next day and you got to get it together. And sometimes it's just not that easy. I'm not going to lie. Sometimes it's just not that easy. So, I apologize if I don't seem like my normal self, you know, but um we'll be good eventually, you know, we'll be good. So, anyway, guys, um I am out of here, but uh we will see you guys all for sex cult Thursday night and uh we'll see if things go better. All right, peace of bum grease, folks. Audi.

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Ep833 - The McAlbert Propaganda Machine | Misinformation Mayhem

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