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[Music] All the glory. [Music] Glory, glory, glory. Worthy of it all. You are worthy of it all, for you are all things. You are all things. You deserve the glory. I'll make [Music] every [Music] of [Music] [Music] you. Huh? Oh, you going to do music? Testing. Welcome, welcome to class. Yours is on. I think you have to unmute our computer over there. Muted? Huh? You're good. I'm good. You're muted. Okay, can everybody hear us? All right, so welcome to class. This is Flight Deck School, Supernatural Ministry, and tonight we have a bunch of speakers. Yeah, if you guys can all bring your videos on and, um, who wants to go first? Worship first. We're going to do like 10 minutes of worship and then we'll, we'll let Summer go first. Does that sound good? What you? Was that a good? I can't see what she did. Well, I made a funny face. Um, I can go over act. Remember we moved my speech for my teaching? Ah, surprise! We talked about it earlier. Now I'm no. Yeah, I, I just thought maybe you were sitting down and you were able to do it. I don't. We changed the person. Huh? I'm going to end up doing talking about today. Just all right. What do you need over [Music] there?
All right, we're going to do worship here. Um, Tina needs some [Music] help. I'm just trying to figure out this [Music] this [Music] [Music] everything is from you. [Music] There's. Don't worry, we're not going to worship. Why I figure out how to turn the YouTube off. Go down here, this little white box. Receive glory. All right, all right. Who's going first? Who's on second? I'll be on third. Who's hitting a home run tonight? Can y'all hear us? What's the name of the man on second? Kell. Who went to get first? Rock, paper, scissors. I think Summer's first. Just kidding, just kidding. Kelly, you want to go first? What am I doing? We're teaching on our revivalist. Second, let me grab my. All right, who's down in the bottom? Lori. Yes, I saw Joanne was on there too. Can Joanne, can you bring on your, your video when it's time to teach? All right, C. Yeah, hold on a second. I C. I was going to do it so that you can really zoom in. Oh, you know it. That way. Hey, hey, look at that. What we're doing? TV's crooked. All right, if you can pin Kelly, pin Kelly. I think Kelly, I'm going to try to pin you. I know, don't flinch. It might hurt. I'm not very good at, uh, stabbing, but I think, look at that, I did it on the first shot. Okay, it didn't hurt at all. Yes, thank you, Jesus. He's. And Tina's got to do. I can barely hear her. That's, that's because you're on the wrong volume. Oh, it's wrong volume. Yeah, my bad. How you doing, Kelly? I'm doing good. How about you guys? Doing great, great, great. All right, tell me when you're ready. Here, let's see. All right, can I see her? K, can you just continue talking? We're trying to adjust the volume here. Jack, one, two, test. Oh, now we hear you. Yeah, yes, that's, you're sounding better. Oh, good. I [Music] practice. You gonna sing us a song next? Sure. So, oh, yes, we do love Kelly. Love you guys. Guys are great. They love you because you're all right. Everyone else has to mute. I don't know how to get my Jen. Don't know how to get my turn. Don't know how to get back to the to the team. Well, we muted KY. [Music] Sorry. Here we go. All right, ready? Ready. S. Okay, so, so I chose Catherine Kuhlman. It was really, it was a hard choice because I love revivals. I like church history. Um, I've read different things over the years and there's a lot of them that are all good, but there's some new things that I found out about Catherine Kuhlman when I listened to, um, as one of our videos for class, God's Generals from Robert Slosser. So, um, that kind of was the tipping point to, uh, talk about Catherine versus some of my other favorites. So, Catherine Kuhlman was born in 1907, lived till 1976. She died at 69 years old. Born in Concordia, Missouri, a very small town. She says that her parents went to two different churches. They were both Christian. One was Baptist, one was Methodist, and she would kind of take turns every other Sunday or whatever, um, going to church with her dad or going to church with her mom, but they never all went together as a family. Oh, and her father was the mayor of that little town. So she was kind of well-known, um, in that tiny town of 1200 people. Um, she said her first experience with the Holy Spirit was in the Methodist Church with her mother. She was about 14 years old, and she said she can't remember anything that was said for the sermon or even the songs that were sung, but she knows that towards the end of the service, um, she was just holding the hymnal and she stood up to sing the song, and she said she just felt this presence and she just began trembling, and she didn't know what it was, but she, at 14, she just knew it had to be God. And she said, I didn't know what to do with it, neither, neither did anybody around me. So she just ran to to the front of the church and sat down on the front pew, front pew or the altar, but she, at the front of the church, and she was just crying and crying, and she didn't know why, but it was Holy Spirit. I had that kind of experience when I first accepted the Lord. To us crying and I'm like, apologizing, like, I'm sorry, I don't know why I'm crying. And the woman that led me in that prayer said, it's okay, honey, it's Holy Spirit. But she didn't have anybody to tell her that. She said, one, uh, one lady came over to her and, and of course, the whole town knows, everybody knew her and patted her on the back and said, it's okay, honey, don't cry. God knows you're a good girl. And she's like, okay. Then she said, but we both knew we were both lying, 'cause she was a little bit of a rascal, I guess. Um, but after that, from a different book I've read on her in the past, she said she walked home from church that day and she said it was if the sky was bluer, the grass was greener, everything came alive, and she just knew something spiritual had happened. Her, like she had a touch from heaven. So, um, she began preaching as a teenager, um, probably just a year or so later, um, 'cause she went out to begin with her sister and brother-in-law. They had a small ministry and they would travel. So she went with them to watch their kids, um, but then they were going to send her back home to her little small town, and she didn't want to do that. She knew God had more for her and there wasn't anything for her back home, so to speak. So she started off as a teenager on her own. They let her go, and she went out and started traveling and preaching, and she said the only message she preached was salvation because that's all she knew. She just preached the gospel. You must be saved, you must be born again, and people were getting saved. She ended up going to Colorado, um, where, um, and her personality too, she was just very compelling. And after watching so many videos and reading about her, I just know that the people could tell it was true, it was real. She was sharing her experience. It wasn't just, you know, turn or burn or, you know, I'm going to hit you over the head with the Bible and God's angry at you, you better, you know, shape up. It was her true experience that she felt a touch from God. Um, so I really like that. Um, oh, so she was born again, she says, without the assistance of man. So she had that experience. So as she traveled around and on her own, um, and people were just, um, um, kind of drawn to her, she ended up in Colorado and she started a church there. And her church, I believe they said it was like blossomed to like 2000 people, and she had just started in this old building, you know, by herself. So, um, the Lord was on that. But then, um, a man came along and, um, he was from Iowa and he had a ministry also, and, um, they got along well because she thought they had a lot in common. He was a minister, she was a minister, and they were working together there in her church. But then, um, he proposed to her, and she thought that that was the Lord. Um, but she said some people warned her not to do it. But, you know, she thought, well, he's a Christian man and, you know, he understands, you know, being touched by the Lord and Holy Spirit. But the marriage, well, she said, she, they said, she fainted at her own wedding. After, soon as she said the, not quite before, just before she said her vows, she fainted, passed out. So don't know what that was all about, but, um, right after they got married and they were headed to their hotel with other guests who were staying at the hotel, and she jumped out of the car before her husband shut the car off and ran to her friends and said, I made a mistake, I made a mistake. Oh my gosh, what am I going to do? I shouldn't have married him. And then he came to find her. Where are you? Come on, it's time to leave. We're going on our honeymoon trip. So she went, and she was married. It doesn't say how many years, but she was married to him, and it ended up, he ended up being jealous of her and wouldn't let her preach. And, and as they had meetings, she would sit on the front row and just sit there with her hands folded, and he would do the preaching. He wouldn't let her get up. Although he was okay with it before the wedding. Sometimes things strange. And, um, a witness said they would see her sitting there crying, and some people thought, oh, she's just being touched by the Holy Spirit. But later it was revealed, no, she was just crying because I've made this awful mistake and now I'm in ministry, you know, I can't get divorced. What am I going to do? So anyway, that, that didn't last that long. She, she took a stand and said, I can't live like this, and, um, they were divorced. And then she went to Amy, uh, Semple McPherson Bible School. Didn't finish, but she was there in LA going to the school, still trying to figure out her life, and she thought she'd ruined everything because she, she was the one to quit on the marriage. So, um, the story goes, she went for a walk to a park area in, um, LA, kind of, I don't know, just remote area to be alone with the Lord, and she was just crying out to him, and she was like, I wrote the quote down, God, I have nothing left but my love for you. That's all I can give you. So she felt, I could never minister again because I'm divorced. Nobody will have me. I made a mess of my life. But what am I going to do now? Uh, you know, whom have I but you, Lord? And, and, um, she said, that's all I can give. And then later, I heard her talking about it. She says, it cost her everything. She had to lay everything down, her reputation, everything. But she did find a little church. She started out again in a little church in Ohio. Welcomed her, wanted to hear what she had to say. They heard of some of her prior meetings, probably before she was married, and they, um, loved her. The next morning, they said they met with her and said, and they were very happy. And she said, it didn't make sense. They're happier than normal just to have any, have recaf with them. Okay, what's up? And they didn't have a permanent pastor. And they said, we have good news. We want you to be our pastor. And she said, oh, that's lovely. But I have news for you. I can't be your pastor. Why? Well, I'm divorced. I'm a divorced woman. This is back in the day, probably 30s, early 40s. And they said, well, let us, let us just have a few moments here to talk about it. They prayed and they came back and the quote is, we don't know who that Catherine was that in that life, but we know who this Catherine is. And we want you. Will you be our pastor? So, um, this is where she says God gave her a second chance. So she pastored there, and, um, things started blossoming. And she said to the Lord, if you can use nothing, here's nothing. I'm nothing. But if you can use me, you take my body as a living sacrifice. So she was persecuted for being a divorced woman. She would go to churches, you know, besides the one she was in in Ohio. And it doesn't say when or how that ended, but it just said her ministry group. She would, um, one instance when she was up on stage with the microphone, ready to begin her service, and the pastor came up and yanked the microphone away from her in front of everyone, pulled her off the stage and told the ushers, get her out of here, put her on a bus out of town. We're not going to have that kind of a woman in our pulpit, meaning divorced. And she said, there was always, she was called a false prophet. You know, how can you preach the word if the word is against divorce, blah, blah, blah. But she, but she did keep going. And then, um, the Holy Spirit began falling, and people began getting touched without anyone touching them, which I think is really unique because that's how she said she got saved and felt the presence of God, presence of God. No one touched her. So I love that. Um, and her ministry just exploded. And she gave a quote, and this was probably in the 70s. She said, since 1948, goes, these are not my numbers, these are the newspapers or whoever keeps track. She goes, but they said approximately 2 million people have been healed through her ministry. So it was miracles, signs, and wonders. And she always gave the credit to the Lord, which is what I love. Um, she, she would pray and just be before the Lord before she came out on on the platform, the pulpit, and she would say, I'm waiting for Holy Spirit. He's my friend. Holy Spirit's coming. Don't, don't offend him. Don't quench him, because I can do nothing without him. So are you okay to go now? Yes. Okay, hold on one sec. Lori, Lori iPhone. Well, probably not the iPhone. Well, that's, that's the one I'm showing your picture on. Okay, that's fine. It's okay. All right, might have echo. Do you have backup? No, no. Sounds good. Okay, good. All right, there you go. Let's see. Hold on. Turn my laptop a little bit. Some more square. Who? All right, you can go ahead whenever you're ready. All right, just let, let us know what your name is and just a few seconds of who you are. I'm Lori Saw, um, from Berlin, PA. And, uh, I'm thankful to be a part of this class, but I'm retired, so I have some time to do this, but my days seem to be full anyway. Can you see me okay? Yep. All right, well, I was a little bit like Kelly. I looked at the God's Generals and I saw John G. Lake. I did a video, I mean, a series of him, YouTube, lessons. We just finished Smith Wigglesworth devotional last year. We really like Smith Wigglesworth. A toer, listen to some of his sermons. And somewhere along the line in the last year, I came across Maria Woodworth-Etter, and she stuck out to me. So when I was looking at your videos and trying to pick out the one I wanted to do, I got her book too. So Maria was very interesting to me. And let me know if I'm making noise with my papers, but I needed my notes too. She was born in 1844, and she was known as the grandmother of the Pentecostal movement. Was an incredible woman with signs, miracles, and wonders. John G. Lake made a comment in one of the studies that I was doing on her. He would tell people, pray like Mother Etter. One day, when she was about 10 years old, her family, who was unchurched, her dad was abusive and an alcoholic, they decided to join a church near where they lived. They worked on a, lived on a farm. And in that church service, it was called Divine Ministry. I think that's kind of unique, as we all have divine moments with the Lord. And as she heard the word of God in that church, the word really came alive to her. And when we look at Romans 10:17, it tells us that faith comes by hearing the word, and the word is about Christ. So the church saw that there was something going on with her. And, um, when she was 13, she decided, they did an altar call, and she was the first one that would come forward. And the pastor was so nice to her. And they said, we're going to do a baptism. And she decided she was going to be baptized. They were taking her to a creek, which back then they didn't have big tubs and stuff inside churches. They baptized people in creeks. And she thought she was going to drown. But when she went to go down, she said to the Lord, she, I'm going to put all this in your hands, and I want to live for you fully. When she came back up, there was such an amazing light that came down on her. And the people of the church saw that light, and they knew there was something special about this girl. And about a month after she was baptized and gave her life to Christ, her dad done. And she had to go to work for it in a household to clean and take care of the household and kids. And and she missed her church and she missed her family, but she knew she had a call of God on her life. And this was a time period when women weren't supposed to be pastors. Just like Catherine Kuhlman, you know, women were not to be pastors, they weren't to be preachers. But she knew God had something for her. She kept kind of tamping it down. Her family would sit her brothers and sisters would push her to the side and say, would you stop being so religious? So she would get picked on because she wanted to talk about God all the time. And then, um, when she was about 16, she ended up getting married. She married a man who was a Civil War veteran. She kept putting God's call off. They had six children. And yet God kept nudging at her. Five of her children died. When her last child was sick and dying, she was not well and she was in bed, and she would hear the church bells ringing, and she, she would just cry to the Lord. She says, I want to be this. And at that particular time, she had this amazing dream. She had, she saw herself in a great wheat field, and all of a sudden the wheat field began to fall all around her, and she heard God say, the slain of the Lord shall be many through your ministry. And she saw herself pleading with sinners to come to Jesus. She wrestled with her calling, but promised the Lord that if he would restore her health and prepare her for the work that she must do, she would endeavor to do it immediately. Her health would recover. So even then, she feared stepping. Now she didn't think she was qualified. And yet in simple faith, she asked the Lord to anoint her for service. She said the power of the Holy Ghost came down brighter than the sun. She was baptized with the Holy Ghost and fire and power which never left her. Said it was like liquid fire, and the angels were all around, there was fire all around and glory, and it was through the Lord Jesus and by his power that she could stand before hundreds of thousands proclaiming the unsearchable riches of Jesus Christ. Even then, kind of camped down everything, but finally she convinced her husband, let's sell the farm, I want to go into ministry. He didn't want her to, but he finally agreed to it. And she went to get her ordination in a little ministry group in Ohio. And this is where she was born in Lisbon, Ohio. And she was known, she's actually known as being the number one church planter in Ohio and Indiana in her time. So again, women preachers were not common, they were unpopular. And the, um, the ministry group, they weren't real thrilled, but she persisted. She persisted. She wanted her ordination. They finally agreed to it. And they thought, okay, we're going to put her someplace where nobody could make a breakthrough. We're going to hide her someplace, maybe she'll go away, maybe she'll stop following wanting to be a pastor in the place that was called Devil's Den. Her first, um, day there, she said a t up in her yarn in her first meeting, and she started to preach. And as soon as she started to preach, the fear of man left her, and she could bring words out that rang with conviction. Family, the reason most people came was because she was, was a woman. They came for the entertainment. Each day she would preach, and then after a few days, guess what? 20 people were saved. And then at each meeting, she experienced the same power that she received when she was baptized in the Holy Ghost. The glory of God descended at every meeting. Now she was known as a trance evangelist, and what would happen to her is she would go into these trances. And sometimes when she would come into a trance, it could be hours, and sometimes they sent doctors to check her out to see she was okay. And they said, there's nothing wrong with her. The only thing we can find is that her heart is beating at this, at, I do, I want to say her heart was beating at the same beat as the music that was playing. And when she would come out, she would tell about all the experiences that she saw of heaven and even hell. And as she was proclaiming God's word, as she would go to tent meeting to tent meeting, more and more people would go into these trance states. And they were, the newspapers would then come and they would report on these trance states, on her being trans, in a trance evangelist, the people falling out, the people being in trances, and that brought more people to her meetings. So one day, um, well, I'm going to back up a little bit. She used to travel. Her meetings would be in the Midwest, in the South, and in the East. And our train team would always travel in these old cars and trucks, and they would set up these tents everywhere they went. And she always had a little tent for herself if there was no house for her to stay in. And the meetings would often last seven weeks to seven months. As she preached, they called him the Holiness ministers started to distance themselves from her. There was a man at one of her meetings, his name was John Malone. They said he had a violent temper, and when he came to her meeting, he was coming with vengeance. He was going to really lay one on there. As soon as he marched into the meeting, he had a heart change, and within minutes, he became the noisiest convert in town, praising and shouting that he was glad he found Christ. Maria was arrested a couple of times. He was accused of being paid money for the healing because she didn't have a license to practice medicine. Isn't that amazing? She had a great desire to go out West. And one day she finally got to Oakland, California. Her, did husband didn't want her to go, but he finally relented. And it was one of the worst times of her life in her ministry, but she didn't give up. She was a fir son. The city tried to take her permit away. She took it to court. One, they didn't like the trances and the people getting saved. They sent hoods, this, that was the word they used, hoods to cut the tent ropes during the meeting, so the tent collapsed in on the, uh, people. They would call the police, and the city wouldn't send the police to help. They brought in mentally ill patients from hospitals and released them in the meetings, so demons would manifest during her meetings. But she kept going because the power of God. Murray Dowdy, and he was a tailor and a preacher. Um, I actually, with the stuff I looked up, I didn't really hear anything about his mom. And what it sounded like was that the family was moved, um, to Adelaide, South Australia in 1860. So he was, by that time, what would he have been like? 12, 13 years old. Um, he worked various jobs. He also worked for his uncle in a, um, get a boot-making factory. But the thing that was very interesting to me was he eventually advanced as a confidential clerk for a resident partner of a firm that did a $2 million a year business. Now, imagine that kind of money in the late 1800s, early 1900s. That seems astronomical to me. And, um, one of the themes that just kept coming up to me as I was reading through things about him was just the whole not to love money because some of the stuff that took place later on as he aged. He became an active member of the South Adelaide chapter of the Total Abstinence Society, which his father was the president of in 1867. And he went on to really preach against those things, alcohol and tobacco. Um, when he was 21, he returned to Edinburgh and he studied theology there. And when his studies were complete, he returned back to Australia and was ordained in 1872 as a pastor of a Congregational Church. Um, while he was doing that, he ended up moving over to Sydney, Australia. Let me see here. Hold on. Sydney, Australia. And he, um, he, this is where he had his encounter about the, um, healing, like God's healing gift. Hold on. I'm going to mess up with my notes. Okay, so he was a minister of a church in Sydney. And while he was there, he had learned that God's healing was still for the time that he was in. And, um, several of the people in his church got sick. And the Lord revealed to him that, um, sickness was of the devil, and that it needed to be resisted. And, um, pretty much just walked him through learning about God's supernatural healing. And, um, he actually ultimately ended up leaving the pastor and he did full-time healing evangelism. And while he was doing that, he, um, hold on. He also got married in between there. Let me back up. He did get married too. He married his cousin. Her name was Jean Dai. They had three children. And when he was in the faith healing part, and he also had come across a man named George Milner Stephen. And he had witnessed the cures and the excitement that was happening with him. And he really got into this evangelism of the faith healing, and the divine healing. He founded an in, it's called the International Divine Healing Association. And, um, later he ended up establishing a free Christian of Melbourne and pastored there until he left with his family to the United States. But before they left for the States, he had toured New Zealand for a while to promote the Divine Healing. And at one of those places, he had done a meeting. It was called Christ Church. And there was, it led to a testimony by a man named James Albert Abbott, who said that he was instantly healed of life-threatening afflictions that he had. Um, when he went back in 1888 and was touring New Zealand again, um, he established the Christ Church Association, promoting the healing through faith in Jesus. And Abbott was the founding secretary of that. Um, later on, Abbott actually went there and became, he was elected a pastor in 1890. D. And his family ended up going to the United States. And they first settled in San Francisco. And he really built up a following of people and performed a lot of faithful healings across the state. Um, and he ran that association largely as a commercial enterprise. So people were sending in requests by mail, telegram, later on by telephone. And if they were part of the association and their dues were paid up, they had to pay tithes, that was part of it. And if they were paid up, he would aid in their healing of the things that they were asking about. One of the things that I talked about was that he bought, he bought up securities of bankrupt companies and would sell them to his followers. And actually two women sued him, and he lost the cases because he defrauded them. So this, this theme of like money issue kept coming up with this for some reason. And while all that was happening, because it turned out to be such an awful thing, he ended up moving his family down to Chicago. And there was a couple years where I think he was kind of in a low, and then he ended up going right outside of the World's Fair there, and he was conducting what he called Divine Healing in front of large audiences. And it really grew a lot of people to come. Um, it was making a lot of, I would say, news for people and bringing in a lot of followers to him. Um, and he ended up moving on to opening in Chicago. He opened a place [Music] called. One of the things though, that they talked about with this was that they were saying a lot of these healings were staged. Even though it appeared that he cured a range of psychosomatic illnesses. So I think it brought some doubt with some people, or they were questioning it. I know he had some backlash with doctors and people trying to sue him because they were saying that he was not, you know, same thing, a practicing medical doctor. As his, um, group, group grew though in Chicago, he established a place called Zion Tabernacle downtown. And then he had large groups that he would, um, have regular services with down in Chicago Central Music Hall. He launched his own publishing house, all Z publishing. He was doing a weekly newsletter called Leaves of Healing. I mean, this man brought a lot of things to the world. He, he seemed to be really good at the business end of things. And, um, what the healing using, but there always seemed to be a business aspect and a money aspect involved in this that I kept finding. Um, he disbanded his association and he actually formed a church. He called it the first, it was called the Christian Catholic Church in Zion, and then he called it the Christian Catholic Apostolic Church. And he even at one point named himself. He called himself like, I got to find where it says it, like Elijah III. It was that was interesting too. So he, it was very much him running things and him being in control of it. Everything that was going on with all these different things that he was opening. He had a following of about, I'd say 5,000 plus. And he ended up buying up land. And that was in the early 1900s. And that's when he founded Zion. And Zion was very, um, strictly ran. It prohibited smoking, drinking, any form of modern medicine. They want any of that in the city. Um, and he ran everything based on the way that this was reading. And what I found about it, you had healing homes there. There's still a large church right in the center part of Zion, which is now called Christ Community Church. People came from all over the world and descended on Zion. And once again, this theme of money came up. And it was saying that Zion was characterized as a quote-unquote, carefully devised large-scale platform for securities fraud, requiring significant organizational, legal, and propagandistic, that's a weird word, propagandistic preparation to carry it out. So I guess he, he had all his followers deposit funds into a particular bank in Zion. It was appeared as a registered entity, but I guess they found out that it wasn't. It was an unincorporated entity that he was controlling. Eventually, they said that the town was like continually had debt issues. He, he ended up having a stroke at one point, and he couldn't handle the affairs. He got involved in some things where he was traveling, and I guess he was promoting polygamy, and his family ended up leaving him. So I mean, as things were starting to shift for him, a couple years before he passed, he actually, they took him down from being in charge of things, and they gave him an allowance. They found out that there was like somewhere between 2.5 and like $3.4 million of funds that were unaccounted for. But in between there, I mean, like I said, there were so many things that did, places that he opened, healing centers. So, oh, this is what it was. He called himself Elijah the Restorer. And so he was very, um, he just believed in full, like, in the full healing of Jesus, and he didn't want any of the modern medicine involved. And he basically, the way I was reading it, was everything was very much about him running it for the city. And, you know, when things started to kind of fall apart, they found out, you know, with some of the issues. And he's actually buried in, in the city there. And I guess he had asked to have, have him buried like with concrete over so that they could never dig up his body and stuff. I know that in the years that I worked there, I found and I met a lot of really good people there. And, like I said, ultimately, my own salvation came out of it. So everything that I'm doing now, and more that I reach for the Lord, I mean, I have that personal testimony too. But I, one of the big takeaways is just that we need to be real rooted in Christ and the gifts that he gives us because I didn't, I mean, most of what I read, I didn't hear a lot about even him giving that glory to the Lord. And there was that like combination there where people were questioning sometimes some of what he was doing. And that like, if there was that underlying corruption with money and stuff, I think as much as there was followers, there was other people questioning, which then ultimately, I would say would make them question God. And, you know, what a man does is not what God does. It's not the same. He gives us the gifts, but we have a free will in it. But there's been a lot of good that's come out of that at the same time. And but I definitely saw firsthand the battles in the flesh. And then I would even say now, after doing this research, like the supernatural battle, spare points for what I, for what I was able to see working there. But I also know that I saw a lot of people, you know, reaching back in very strong roots in the Lord and wanting to bring, you know, new revival to the city and shift the things that were going on there. And I know over the years, there was a lot of shifting in Chicago and it came up through there. So, still that intertwining, I guess you could say, of Chicago and Zion, good and not good. So, and I do know too that they, um, one of the things it was saying was that there was a lot of people that were impacted by Dowie's life and people that still carry, you know, the truth of God's healing. John G. Lake, F.F. Bosworth, Raymond T. Richie, Lam B. Wyman. I don't, I haven't personally read about those people, but I've heard some of those names. And I know that John Lake was just brought up by Lori. So definitely, I see the ripple effect. No matter what, you know, if we make good or bad decisions, God's always working everything for the good of those who love him. And so I had a lot of good things that came out of that place for me. And ultimately, I give my salvation is probably, I mean, it is the number one thing that I don't know how that would have transpired if I wouldn't have been there. And before that, before I worked there, I had never heard of that city. So I found that interesting because I actually heard of it on the news for the first time, and it was something that was not good when I saw it on the news, and I didn't even know where it was. So within about a year later, I ended up working there. But my takeaways were that, you know, God can give us some very strong giftings, and he can allow us to do some very big things, but we need to stay very rooted and grounded in him and his truth and and make sure that we're giving the glory to him at all times. So thanks for listening. I hope I wasn't all over the place. I [Music] know. Hey, playing. Can you guys hear me now? Yes. We're going to pin you here in a second. Miracle, so I can. 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There you go. You see me? Yes, you can. It's awesome. Okay, if my head gets chopped off, let me know. You're good to go. All right, hone. Thank you. My favorite revivalist is Heidi Baker, who's currently, as we know, alive. She's known as an apostle of God's love. And, uh, briefly, her history is is interesting. She's from Sunny California. Uh, and one summer at the age of 16, she went to Mississippi to complete a short-term work and was invited to a Holiness black church where she was the only white person attending. It was there that she responded to an altar call for salvation and was radically engulfed Jesus. And she pursued wholeheartedly to serve him. She eventually met her husband, Roland, shortly within the next couple of years. They were connected. And, uh, during that time, she almost married the wrong man, but Roland pursued her, and he pursued her seriously. And Roland himself is a missionary kid. He's got relatives who were ministers, missionaries in China, among children who influenced Roland to become a missionary as well with Heidi. So their journey began first in England, where she studied, where they studied theology, but they dedicated to preaching in the streets daily. They led many to Jesus. When God then sent both of them to Asia and later to Africa. They both believed God literally to meet every single need that they had, meaning food, lodging, connections, you name it. They took, they didn't even take $50 with them when they, uh, went abroad. They never even asked for money or for donations. They took God at his word to meet every need. So they pursued raising up churches, especially in Africa. We hear mostly about the churches that she's been ministering to in Africa, who have thousands of children in need because of wars and their parents being torn apart because of wars or or their lives were taken. And because of all the famines and all the disasters that have occurred in different parts of Africa, like Mozambique. Well, they pursued God and they struggled for years working in their flesh, is what she shared, rather than pursuing help from the body of Christ. They worked for years, and it took a great toll on their health and bodies. Now, in the early 1990s, a close friend's sister shared about hearing Baker speak in a local church, and the friend's sister was so impacted by Heidi's love for God. When I heard that in my heart, I knew that Heidi was someone whom I had to meet, and I wanted to hear a testimony. So this friend loaned me that cassette tapes on Heidi's sharing at that function, and after I listened to them, I discerned she was really anointed as a missionary of God's love and His glory and holiness. So I'm, I wasn't sure. I know a lot of people know about Heidi, but I wanted to share how she's influenced me so greatly in my life. So, n, now, this is going to be rather personal. It wasn't until about 10 years later, that is in the early 2000s, that I got to meet Heidi when I attended her first conference that she held in Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship Church during the renewal, renewal movement in Canada. This conference was a few years after she had gone there, because she was seeking physical healing and God's power and presence, and she received prophetic words from Pastor Randy Clark. So much so that these, God's power just laid her out on the floor that she was unable to get up for seven days straight. And during that time, God was changing her on the inside, speaking to her about her need to surrender more to him, but also to allow the body of Christ to help her with what he was calling her to do. And then he gave her open visions and direct words, and they were confirmed through Pastor Randy Clark. While I attended her, one of her first conferences entitled Show Us Your Glory, I was impacted deeply by her love for God and her humility. She was crying all that time. I think she'd be known as the, the woman who cried and cried and wept on the floor and could barely talk, but yet God's presence would fall, and the glory of God, all the goodness of God, his love, his joy, his peace, deliverance, you name it, it would just come out rolling, rolling through the cloud, God's cloud of like glory would fall upon the people in the conference, and many people were touched. Of course, she received criticism because they said, oh, you're so emotional, why are you crying all the time? That's so unnecessary. But her heart was being touched, her heart was being circumcised, and God was using her to be a humble vessel. She shared later that the reason why she was on the floor so much for like a few years, every time she was in America, was because God wanted her to be a humble vessel because our lifestyles, our way of living, was so contrary to the way that she had been living in Africa, in Asia, in England. And God was doing a work in her in order to do a work here in America. So, um, let me just pick up here. All right, she also was led during the conference to share the theme, showing God's glory was for the purpose that God was looking for laid-down lovers to pursue God because God had a vision that he wanted to send the out to all the nations of the world to carry his love, his power, and His glory presence. I responded to that call and I went forward because I knew God would be calling me to Latin America in my future to testify of his love and with signs and healings and His glory. But God said to us through Heidi that there would be a cost to the calling. It would be a laid-down life for Jesus and a literal piercing of our hearts at some point, at some time, which would be like a circumcision. And this did happen to me a couple of years later. Since then, uh, God has challenged me to grow in his love and to love more purely and deeply while he continues.
To heal areas where I am in need of healing still in my soul. Certain wounds from my past, especially from my family of origin. And He's led me to lay down my life in different ways to care for those people who were dying of age, AIDS for a long season, for the elderly, the ill. And I, I often felt that God was using me as an angel of Mercy, forgiveness, and salvation for these people. And at times, it was very bittersweet, very bittersweet, very challenging because they would be on their deathbed and then all of a sudden they would come back to good health, to life. And it, I found that the prayers, the prayers not just of myself, but of their loved ones and family around them were so powerful. God, God opened up the realm of prayer and intercession in a way that He allowed me to see. At one point, people's prayers, the prayers of a woman's daughter's, I could see were being heard by God, and that's why she was able to continue to live for a season.
So by pursuing a work like what Heidi is doing, it's stretching. It's very stretching and challenging, but it's such a privilege for me, an honor to work with, to walk alongside people one by one, to be a helper, an intercessor, a healer, evangelist, whatever God needs me to be. And then finally, Lord willing, in my retirement, which is coming up in a few years, I really, I'm pursuing to plan and plan to go deeper into studying God's word and going to Spanish-speaking peoples and countries wherever God would need me to serve Him.
So Heidi Baker, she's still alive. She's still with us. I'm sure some of you have listened to her at conferences, read her books. There's a wonderful book out there called "There's, There's, There's Always Enough." She leans on the Lord to meet every need. She is presently the, the mother, the spiritual and physical mother of thousands of children in Africa, and God powerfully meets all those needs. And yes, she does receive people's help. She does want the body of Christ to participate in helping. And that's for, I think that's a great work that God is doing around the world, you know, teaching the body of Christ what it means and how, what it means and how to walk in His love like Heidi has been doing. And that's it. Yay! Yay! Thank you. Okay, replace her. Pin. You guys hear me? Yes. Thank you. Thank you. You hear me? We can hear you. Just go to ours. Okay. You heard everything? Yes. Yes, we did. It was amazing. Thank you so much. About Heidi Baker? Yeah. Amen. Okay. All right. Cathy, or actually Summer, are you ready? Where's Summer at? You're not ready. You're not ready. You're ready? No, I'm not. I've been messaging you. I want it to be great and impactful. I want to teach everybody on it, and I am not ready. Well, how about if you do it anyway, and then you have two weeks to perfect it? You, Kelly's laughing. So's Jenna. What, what did you say? She's good at throwing people out of the boat. She did that to me like the first week of class. You go ahead and do it, and then you have two weeks to perfect it. I don't even have, I don't have anything written down. Like, I was going to teach on John G. Lake until I got confused while talking to you today and accidentally wrote down Rodney Hogg. That's okay. And he's not, I don't know if we'd even consider him a revivalist. Who? Ronnie H. Yeah, yeah. You can. What do you know on John G. Lake? What about John G. Lake? You can share on him. What do you, what do you know about? Well, I don't know like enough to talk about him. I read it one night, right whenever I think the same night that you sent the email. But I know about Rodney Hogg a lot more. Okay. Well, we'll give you two weeks and we'll let you perfect one of them. Next week? No, can't. Next. Yeah, I would rather do Rodney Hogg. Like, I love Rodney Hogg because like, what I was messaging you, Trina, is that he's all about Deliverance Ministry, and that's where my heart is. And so I've seen him. We'll roll list and see what you really like and go with whatever you feel. Okay. All right, 'cause I only have two weeks left. So I got it. All right. So, um, how about Kathy Pacman? Where are you at? I'm, I'm here. Can you hear me? Um, we can hear you. Let's see if we can find you. Hold on. Hang on. You got your video on? Hang on. All right, now I do. There. Just do pin her. All right, there. You're pinned now. You're ready. Go for it, girl. Okay, so, um, I decided that I was going to go with Evan Roberts, who was really the, not just instrumental, but he basically started and the whole Welsh Revival thing in the early 1900s. And I chose him because he's always been interesting to me because my ancestry is mostly Welsh. And, uh, in Wales, most especially in the early 1800s, um, the common people were all coal miners or families of coal miners. And that's what my family, my family were coal miners in Wales. They immigrated to the US and became coal miners here in West Virginia, really just a few years before the whole Welsh Revival started in Wales. Um, anyway, um, Evan Roberts was born in 1878 and died in 1951. He was raised in a very devout family. They, the parents really instilled in their children the need to study the Bible and to be in, um, very involved in ministry. At, but at age 11, he was taken out of school and put to work in the coal mines, very common back then. And, but about 10 years or so later, um, never could find an exact date, there was an explosion in the coal mines. And so all the single men were taken out of the mine. Uh, be, there weren't, there weren't as many jobs after that. And so they gave the jobs to the married men supporting families. So, and that would have been around 1903, which is about the time that he, Evan Roberts was feeling that a great Revival was coming to Wales. While he worked in the coal mines, though, he would take his Bible with him every day into the mines. He would give Bible verses to miners as they were coming into the mines to begin work, and then as they were leaving on the way out, he would ask them if they had contemplated the verses he gave him and what they were getting out of it. So he had a reputation, um, of being, um, a leader, a Bible teacher, even as a, as a really young man. Um, anyway, so in 1903, he felt like there was a Revival coming. He no longer had the job in the coal mine. So in 1904, he went to a Bible College and began studying for the ministry. He did not finish because in October of 1904, he really felt like he was called just to go ahead and begin preaching. And so that was actually his preaching in 1904 was the beginning of the Welsh Revival. He started, um, holding meetings and preaching, and it got to where they, thousands of people were coming to his meetings. At one point, near the end of the Revival period, which was 1904 to 1905, they estimated 6,000 people were at one of his outdoor meetings. He was very, um, they said his preaching, he was always very quiet, but it was full of the Holy Spirit. There was a lot of laughing, crying, dancing, joy, and brokenness. He did a lot of crying sometimes in his, in his preaching, but it, it just really drew people in. It, it drew the whole, um, Revival got the attention of the media. There were a lot of newspaper reporters that would come, some of them became believers because they were coming to report on his preaching and left as believers. But it was the, the whole country became involved and enamored to the point where they were saying that pubs were closing, houses of prostitution were closing, sometimes soccer matches were not being attended because people would all be at the Revival meetings. Come on. So that was all very interesting. Um, but what happened? He would sometimes these Revival meetings would last until like 4 or 5 in the morning. He was, um, staying up all night, getting a couple of hours sleep, starting another meeting. And so his health, it started affecting his health. The lack of sleep, sometimes he wouldn't eat because he would be so busy praying with people and preaching. And, so he started, like I said, he started having a lot of health problems. And, and in, in 1906, he had a breakdown, an emotional and physical breakdown. And about this time, he met a woman from England who had come over to hear him. Her name was Jessie Penn-Lewis, and she was a minister in England. And she convinced him to come recuperate at her estate, the estate belonging to she and her husband in England. And, so while he was there, she had a lot of influence on him. And, she told him at the time that she, that the spiritual gifts he was operating in, he did a lot of prophecy, and he did had done some healing, and a lot of these, the things that were going on, she convinced him were not of God. So he began to not trust in the supernatural gifts because of her influence. She would not allow people to come and see him. She said she was protecting him and helping him to heal, but she cut him off from his friends, she cut him off from his family. And so it was kind of a, a time that she had a lot of influence over him, not necessarily a lot of good influence. So anyway, he, um, while he was doing ministry, while, while the Revival was going on, I thought this was kind of interesting. He had three female singers. And they, what they would sing, they would sing hymns, but they would also sing what they referred to as inspired messages, which sounded to me a lot like the prophetic worship that you hear a lot about now, and that you see some worship leaders and worship teams and musicians doing now. And people would complain and say, "That's not a hymn." And he would say, "Yeah, but this is from the Holy Spirit, and we're not going to shut down anything of the Holy Spirit." So, anyway, toward the end of the Revival, he really, really started getting a lot of prophecy, a lot of words of knowledge, to the point where sometimes he would stop in the middle of preaching and point out somebody that God had highlighted to him. Sometimes he would even go outside where people were standing because it was standing room only and people were spilling out on the sidewalks because he had a word of knowledge for someone he knew was out there or had heard was out there. But at the same time, right before he had the major breakdown, he had had a couple of small emotional breakdowns. But before he had the one really big breakdown where he ended up going to England, he started, said he started hearing voices. And then he started having a hard time discerning whether the voices were from the Holy Spirit or not. So he began to have a lot of self-doubt. He began to feel like he wasn't sure whether or not he would be able to fully receive the Holy Spirit. He would worry about that, would fret about that. He would go into periods of depression. So the enemy was really attacking him, and I think he really felt prey to a lot of these attacks, both through his own thoughts and through the woman who was supposed to be helping him, Jessie Penn-Lewis. He ended up staying in her home for eight years. And said there was nothing that I could find that really said why he left and what made him really decide to go on his own. He stayed in England still for a while and started writing some pamphlets, and then he would write letters to pastors. But then when she died in 1927, he went back to Wales. He had gone back after he left her home, he went back a couple of times and did some preaching there, but still lived in England. But in, when she passed away in 1927, he went back to Wales for good and he started preaching again and preached until about 1929. And at that time, his preaching was a little bit different, but it would be followed up by a lot of healing and deliverance. And then he just, and after 1929, he fell into more and more depression. And by 1931, he had completely quit preaching. He was pretty much living in seclusion and spent all his time writing poetry and letters to pastors. And that's pretty much what he did for the next 20 years. He just kind of fell out of the public scene altogether and became very, very secluded and very private. So, one of, okay, one of the interesting things that I found that, I found a couple of sources that, so in the mines, they have ponies, they call ponies that would work carrying, pulling the coal cars. And it was said that the, and these ponies learned verbal commands from the miners that worked there. And it was said that once these miners came to Jesus through the Revival, their language was cleaned up so much that they had to retach these ponies how to learn commands that did not contain curse words. I thought that was just kind of an interesting aside. But anyway, it, so a couple of the things that I, I read and I thought made a lot of sense was, you know, one of the reasons that the Revival really didn't last that long is because it was just centered, it was centered so much around his preaching. He did not have a lot of people coming alongside him and really helping him with the ministry and with what was going on. And, in fact, they said within 40 years after the Revival, you know, they had so many people come to Christ through in those years, 1904 and 1905, but within 40 years after that, there was really no lasting effects from any of that because the whole thing seemed to be centered around his preaching and what with him. So, that, they said it's, it started out, his ministry started out great. And through, I think, feel like the attacks of the enemy that really went after him because of the success of the, of the ministry and the Revival, it really ended up very sad, and his life ended up very sad with so much depression. And, you know, there was so much more he couldn't have done, and so many more people who could have been impacted who weren't because of that. So I think that the takeaway from that is you really need the support of people that you can trust who are also Spirit-filled, who can lead you in the right direction. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Kathy. That's awesome. I love Evan Roberts. Um, is he the one that when he, when he first got the opportunity to preach, well, no one would give him an opportunity, and he went out to the miners and he stood there with all those coal miners coming out of the coal mine, and he didn't know whether he was going to get killed or God was going to show up, and all of a sudden they saw white streaks coming down their cheeks because they were getting touched by God? I did not see that. I do know, you know, I did read the part where he would, like I said, while he was working in the mine, he would teach and he would, um, give Bible verses to miners and he would ask them later, you know, what they, they've been thinking about it and what they had gotten from them. But, no, that, I didn't hear. Could have somebody else. That's awesome. Thank you so much. We have, uh, Joyce. Are you on anywhere? Joyce, where are you? I'm here. Can you bring on your video? No, because my camera isn't set up. I'm sorry. I do apologize about that. That's all right. Can you do it in two weeks and have your camera set up? Huh? Can you do it in two weeks and have your camera set up? She just talk. I could try. Or were you ready to right now? I can't. Well, I wouldn't do it anyway tonight. My room looks like the wrath of God. Well, you got two weeks to clean it up. And we're not having no more excuses. Go to Joan's house. I'm really bad like that. Okay. All right. We're going to jump with someone else then. Okay. Thank you. What? You don't want me to read this? Okay. Oh, you're going to. I thought you said you weren't ready. No, you're ready. No. Well, no, you know what? You can, you can switch. I, um, I'm going to, I'll, I'll be fine. This is a little better. I'm going to do it on King Cla. So I'll do this. Okay. I'll get it ready for next week. No, two weeks. Next week. We won't have time to do it. We have to do it in two weeks. Next week we have a special speaker coming in. When are we going to do the, uh, thing? We're on Acts for instance. I had the to, oh, today. Yeah. I thought you said two weeks. Okay. I was really, okay. I'll just mute and listen to everybody if you don't mind. Okay. That would be awesome. So, yeah, if you could just pin us, just as soon as I pull you up, I can mute myself. And I think everybody's stuff was great. So I just thank you for coming. You coming over. Yeah, just coming in for a moment to check it out and see. Don't ask, don't tell. All right, that was amazing. Oh my gosh, like I love it, I love it, I love it. You guys did incredible. Um, I love the creativity. Not, not anyone did the same one. That's pretty awesome. Yeah. And so we have Tina. She's about ready to get under the boat, off the boat, under the bus, one of the other. And you want to move this way so you're looking there. Yeah, right there. Don't look there. Look at there. Ooh, I got somebody handsome to look at. So, all right, I'm going to give you the microphone. Tina is teaching on the Moravians. And so we wereing this today, so we're going to grade her. No, no. All right, here you go. And get out of your way. Out of your hair. Out of my hair. Yeah, Trina, get out of my hair. All right, what are you willing to do for God? Well, let me tell you about the Moravians. The Moravians were willing to sell themselves into slavery and even to die for Christ. They knew the importance, how important it was to share the gospel. They were passionate about winning souls for Christ. They would leave their homes, moved to foreign lands with disease and very, and some unwelcoming natives. Sometimes many died when they were out in the mission field, or some were even killed by the natives. They were met with resistance, persecution, and sometimes imprisonment. But this was not a new thing for the Moravians. Let me tell you a little bit of the history of them. They were, um, Moravians were from the Czech Republic during the 1700s. They were in the, and living there in Europe where there was a lot of persecution because they were underneath the state-run churches at that time, and they were not free to worship God. Many were imprisoned and beaten, tortured, and many had to escape from the area and seek salom and elsewhere. But sometimes other places were not quite as weren't free either. Many of them escaped to, um, a lot of them went to Poland and some other areas. But this, I'll tell you about a group of Moravians who founded some refuge here in Eastern Germany on the estate of, um, Count Zinzendorf. He was, um, near Saxony, Germany, which, let me tell you a little bit. Zinzendorf, he was a Christian. He became a Christian when in his teenage years, even though he was in a, um, what was that, a, um, like a boy's home or something. And he, they actually mistreated him, but that's when he actually turned to Christ because he had nothing else to really to do because he needed some hope because they were on home there. They were abusive towards them, even the children and the home, and even the people who were in charge. They often would get, they would each week, I think somebody got was the one that got beat, beaten that week. So it was like, it wasn't a very cruel place. But that's where he found to learn to know Christ because he had some, nothing else to live for. Then when he went to college, he, he actually at that time dedicated his life and wanted to help out missionaries. But since he was royalty, he was not allowed to do that. His grandmother would not allow him to that, says, "You're royalty, you're not going in the mission field" because that would have been beneath him. But God had another plan for his life. Um, he had inherited a piece of land there in Eastern Germany, which, and shortly after he inherited that, a group of, um, Bohemian started tra came to his land and asked if they can seek refuge there. And they, they stayed in his house for a little bit. He wasn't home at the time, actually. His housekeeper let them in. And when he came back, they actually, they lived there for quite a few months before he even came back home because he was out doing some business, this in the, a few towns over. And he came back, he, he's like, "Oh, he welcomed these new pioneers, these people that were traveling about." He welcomed them to his home, and they gave him part of his, some land for them to live on. And they told him, "Here's an," gave him an axe and said, "Here, go ahead and chop some wood down. You can build this little clearing that we have here. You can just build your homes right there." So the Moravians built three, three huts, not huts, three homes. They later on built huts, but you built three houses. And they named the place Herrnhut. I'm probably butchering the name. It probably has more of a German sound to it, which means "The Lord's Watch." Some went of the Moravians, they were so content and liked the place. They actually, some of them went back to their own areas where they came from and encouraged other ones of their friends and family to come. So some more people came and joined them. One time, a couple of them joined them and says, "Oh, I don't know if I'll stay. I'm on my way to Poland. I'll just stop in there for a little bit to see how it is." May found these three houses there. I'm like, "This is not a village." They were like, "What? Why would I want to stay here?" And they soon stayed there for, you know, for a little while and realized, "Oh, they really liked it there and they felt very welcomed by Zinzendorf and his and his company there, his friends and stuff." So they, they stayed also. So this little town of Herrnhut continued to grow. And then, I don't know how big it was at this time, but then in August 13, 1727, they started to have a special service and they had Holy Communion and did some, some worship that night. And that night, the Holy Spirit fell on that place. And it, it continued on. They got together every day to read scripture. They had, they signed everybody up to have times of prayer. They had prayer for 24 hours a day, every hour of the day, for a hundred years. That's amazing how long that would last and how many people that would take to do prayer that often. They would meet together regularly and have love feasts together, fellowship meals, I'm assuming, and they just met together and just had a good time together and just had a sense of community. They became like a little town. They elected some elders in charge and to help run the place. They had some rules, simple rules to had to live by. And if you did not obey the rules, rules, they would ask you to leave. You had to obey all the good common Christian. I forgot. I should have wrote the rules down, but some of the common Christian things that you do, just being kind to each other. You need to go to go to church and just praise, worship God, and you can't, you know, be kind to everybody else. And if you didn't obey those rules, well, they could kick you out. And then a couple years after that, um, Count Zinzendorf, he was invited to Denmark for the King's coronation. They actually elected, he actually went to the, even though he was the owner of the land there, he went and asked him if it was okay for him to go. And he said, "Go ahead, go ahead and go. We approve of this" because he became part of the church there. So he went. But when he came back, he didn't talk anything about the King's coronation. Everything he wanted to talk about was a slave that he met from the West Indies. This slave, and how his life was like for the slaves there, and how they were mistreated, did, and how there was nobody to share the gospel with him. That really touched his life. And he's like, he's like, "I really," that's what he could talk about. And he ended up going back over to that town where he met him at and brought this slave back to him. And they had him come and speak to the people there at Herrnhut. And this really touched some young, two, especially two young men who lived in that town at that time. And both the men were very moved by this. They couldn't sleep that night. And they got together the next day and talked about it. And like, "Yeah, I had the same feeling. Like, we need to go there." So they talked about it and they went and got the approval at the church. They, um, had, they voted it and says, "Yeah, that's okay. We'll send you some." Didn't approve, but then some of them to get the majority and like, "Yeah, we'll send them." So they prepared to go. So that took about, about a year for them to prepare. I'm not sure whether they had to prepare to get going, maybe some training. They had to learn some teaching, like we're teaching here, probably before he went because they said they were skilled at teaching, speaking. So I'm sure you probably had to learn a little bit more of that. And when they went, the count actually took them to the port city there, Copenhagen, was it the name of it? Just to find a ship that would take them along and take them to the West Indies. And they couldn't find anybody to take them. Nobody wanted to take two missionaries onto the boat. Guess they figured it'd probably be a burden and didn't know what they, probably couldn't help. They weren't sailors. So they had to go, "All right, how are we going to get?" They didn't get discouraged. They kind of came up against a roadblock. What are we going to do now? So what did they do? Well, they decided to take it up a little higher and go up to the queen. So they went to get to the queen and ask them for approval to go and get a paper signed that he had the queen's support for them to go. And the queen approved it. And actually, they arranged for them to get a few supplies. They sent him with a, I think they gave him some, maybe some things to take along on a trip. I know they sent him along a few medical supplies to take along with them. And they found favor for going on this trip. So then when they went back to the port to find somebody to take them, they found somebody who would take them. And they set sail about a year later for St. Thomas, which is in the Caribbean. Some nice hot weather compared to probably where they lived at in Germany. Yeah. But when they got there, they didn't find life was not that easy. They worked, had to work hard on the island. They had to, the one was a carpenter, the other one was a potter. So they had to find, they had to help build some things. They could have some work. The other one was trying to find clay and stuff he could make his pots, but he had, he actually had to search all over the island. He couldn't, he found very little clay to for his trade. So he had to learn how to, I guess he had to help do some other things in the meantime. So they start trying to teach the slaves. But then there was another problem. There was a barrier for them wanting to learn. For one, well, the guys that came, they were white, and the slaves were black. So the slaves were very mistreated by the landowners and the, what they call, owners of the plantations there. They were mistreated. They stepped out of line, they could be beaten. So, well, so what did they have to do? Well, so it had a little bit of a barrier there. They had to figure out how to get through. So, and all the other thing is work was hard to find. They lived on, some of them lived in, had to live kind of more, had to learn how to live more like the locals. They had to live in huts, and some of them had very scanty diets. Sometimes they had problems with water and the water being contaminated. And some of them actually, the few, some other ones that came later on, actually many of them died because of the contaminated water. But finally, it's probably about, I'd say about four or five years later, one, one man came, and his name was Frederick Martin. He had an idea. He thought he was going to try to reach one slave at a time. So one time he was walking down, walking around, he says, "Hey, you want to, want to come back to my hut here, and I want to teach you about a man that I know who's going to change your life." God's like, "Yeah, I'll come back. I'll even give you two chickens." Guy's like, "I don't want your chickens. I just come back here. I want to come back to you and tell you about this man." So he ended up converting that man to Christianity. And he actually was able to convert over 200 people while in the time he was on that island to Christ, just going from one slave to one slave at a time heard the gospel. This man lived on the island till he was about 50 years old. And he, um, during a storm, he got, I guess, a lot of, have a lot of splitting and a lot of rain, because I'm assuming probably the malaria, you know, the mosquitoes and stuff, and they probably had malaria there. So he got, ended up getting sick. And he came back, and his wife took care of him for a little bit. And he actually said his farewell. So, like, "I'm soon feel like I'm going to be here to go meet my maker here very soon." And he ended up dying a few days later. But during this time, they made lots of progress. They built schools, they built some chapels, and they made several, many, many people had come to Christ. All right, that was one of the places they actually went to many, not just them, but many of the Moravians went to many of the islands there in the Caribbean, and some made, they were able to put some churches and some, some people did come to Christ on some of the islands, and some of them, they weren't able to make any progress because of conditions weren't really good, and sometimes they got sick and they died. But, you know, do what you can do for that time period. All right, another place they had traveled, they had some little bit of success with. I thought this interesting story kind of interesting was in South Africa. A man named, this is in, oh, I didn't write down yet, year, George Schmidt. He went to Cape Town. But when he went to Cape, he was welcome to come to Cape Town. He was asked to go there. But when he got there, he was not welcomed by the, the people there in the town. So what did he do? Instead of giving up and turning around and going back home, he saw the travel inland. So he traveled about 50 miles inland to the Khoi people. When he got there, he realized it was really hard to learn the language. So what he decided to do, he sought to teach him the Dutch language and opened up a school. And he had 50 people who wanted to join his school to learn the language. So that would have put them in advantage if they knew the Dutch language and they can go into town and help, you know, converse with the probably the white folks there in town, be able to advance their life. But yeah, well, that was a little problem with the officials and the people at that time. These Africans are now learning their language, and that really, that offended them. And they made it, some met with some other officials and said, "In order him to go home." So they forced him to leave back home. But when he went home, he felt like he was kind of defeated because he didn't really able to finish and accomplish everything he wanted to do in Africa. He was actually, you know, he would pray for his Africa. He called it his beloved Africa. He prayed for his Africa for over for 40 years for an open door for them, him to be able to go back, or at least somebody to go back. But he was not ever able to go back until like seven years after his death. The Moravians were asked to go back again. And they knew about this area that he had went to. And they found it, the area during that time. He, they found one of the converts he who he had saved back when he was there. And she still had his Bible. He had kept it in a little box while he was there. He had planted a pear tree. And I guess the pear tree, they cut it down since then, and it made a little box out of the wood of the pear tree. And she kept her Bible safe and out of the weather and protected that Bible to the rest of her life. You know, this was 50 years later. So she was probably a child when this all happened. He did, when he was there, he did have several. I didn't write how many people he came to Christ during that time, but several people did come to Christ. But since then, they, this new missionaries were able to, they continued to share the gospel with the locals there. And they continued to teach the people underneath the pear tree until the church was built. And the last record it has on there, it says actually the church was built, and then actually built another church. And it was actually the last church they had built, could seat up to 1500 people. So they made some good progress in that area. Okay, um, another area they traveled to, another section into America. Now, there was a group of, they were wanting to meet the, you know, evangelize to the American Indians. So they went to an area up the Savannah River and made a settlement along the river and developed a chapel and made some schools there to help teach the Indians. They sent a number of different people with different types of trades. So they, or some were farmers, some were probably carpenters, and some were potters, and who knows what else, just them, everything that people they would need in the settlement. This was not probably the best area for them to meet, just because it was an area between the land that belonged to England and the land that belonged to Spain. So there was a lot of, it was actually a fort there. So there was a lot of conflict going on there. So they eventually ended up leaving many years later. But just to step back here a little bit, this is the same people from this group that met John Wesley. Another revivalist, he met this group on a ship. They were on a ship coming, I'm not sure if they're coming to America or leaving, or probably coming. I can't remember. But there was a great storm. It was the sail had broken in half, and the waves were crashing, and they thought they were going to sink. So the Moravians, but the Moravians were underneath. They were, they were calm as can be. They were just sitting there praying. None of them, women were crying, or children were not crying, the men, nobody was crying. They were all praying. Like, why, why are these people so calm? The people up on the, the Englishmen, the sailors, they were all screaming and hollering and thr, you know, just scared. And these people were not. That really impressed them. So after they got to land and everything, he went to some of their prayer meetings. This really warmed his heart, and he actually says this is really, he truly converted to Christianity. It's through these people. Before he, what John Wesley, if you know a little about him, he actually was a traveling minister at that time, but he would travel from place to place preaching already, but he was missing something. These people had something that he needed. What did he need? I believe he needed the baptism of the Holy Spirit. His faith was actually, it was all head knowledge. He had all theology. So all this knowledge he had went from his head down to his heart. And after that, he really took off as an evangelist and sharing the gospel wherever he went. He actually went back to the settlement later on and, and since there was a lot of conflict in that area, actually offered them to come up to Pennsylvania. So I thought that that was kind of interesting. The, I'm assuming, I'm not sure part of Pennsylvania, I'm assuming it's where in Bethlehem, probably. But it didn't exactly say where he took them in Pennsylvania. There's many other places that the Moravians went. They went to South Africa, I went to several places in Africa, Southern Africa, in the bush in Africa, Eastern Africa, Tanzania, Malawi, and many places in North America. They went to establish some bases there and some churches in the Labrador coast, um, green amongst the Indians there, and then Greenland. They went many places. This is just the early history of the missionary movement that they established. These actually, the Moravians were the first Christians that really started to become missionaries. Before that, missionary, you know, Christians would stay within their area. They would never really travel unless they were forced to travel because of conflict or persecution. They were forced to move elsewhere. But this is the first Christians that actually chose to go to another land to help share the gospel. Wherever they went, they were very intentional about it. They felt the real calling to awaken the world in the need to spread the gospel. Wherever they went. I'm going to kind of leave you with this quote here, written by John Kay. He was another, I think another missionary. He was really moved by what the Moravians were doing. He quoted, "See what the Moravians have done. Should we not follow their example?" It's really moved him to actually start his own missionary movement. He started the Baptist Missionary Society, which is a, was active for many years and made it started sending more missionaries out, even more beyond just the Moravians. So that's all I really want to tell you here about the Moravians and how they had started the missionary movement. Is Trina's getting under the, just tripping over underneath the cord. You know that is so amazing. And I love how you brought in, um, John Wesley and you explained it like that's really cool. Like when we're bringing someone else into our teaching, we, um, you want to explain a little bit about who that person is because not everybody here, they are not everybody knows who you're talking about. And I just love how you guys have been really sharing that kind of stuff. Um, so Jeff's going to share, and then I'm going to share. And then let us know in the chat if Kathy Pacman, if Lori will be ready, and there's a third one on that list, Jenna, just let me know if you guys are ready to do your, um, Book of Acts teaching. I hear a bus coming. Mhm. So we have Jeff Hoover. Yes. And he's going to be speaking about Todd White. Yeah. Yes. Go for it. So, yeah, I learned about Todd White. It was probably about, a little over, definitely over a year ago, just scrolling through Facebook. And all of a sudden, I seen this crazy guy with long dreadlocks and the headlines was, "Homish," meaning getting filled with the Holy Spirit and fire. So, you know, that kind of like, who is this guy? So doing a little research into it, and just getting on YouTube and watching some of his videos, it's like, wow, this guy is on fire and pretty wild and crazy. But yet the way he, you know, talks to people is, is, uh, down to earth. He meets them at their level, and just the way he ministers to them. And, uh, it just, I just had to learn more. And it was just listening to some stuff on YouTube. And I actually got to quickly briefly meet him, uh, last year. He was over at Abbottstown, just like an hour east of us. And, uh, just, I got to shake a hand with him as I was going to the bathroom, he was coming out. And it was just an awesome experience just to, you know, just to actually just meet him face to face. So, um, so I did a little research on it. And you come to find out, there's two Todd Whites, born the same year, the same month, a couple days apart from each other. So, some of that research was, yeah, I'm not sure which one they were really talking about. But they both said that he was born in Canada, which I can't verify on that. So I'm still doing some research on that part of it. But some of the stuff I did find out, both his parents were not Christian, and he grew up, you know, basically almost right away in drug addiction. And he was an atheist. He didn't believe who Christ was. He had a lot of anger in him. And at the age of 11, both of his parents ended up becoming divorced. So of course, his mom couldn't really keep control of him. So she sends him to Masonic homes. And I've been to there on one of my jobs one time, and it's kind of eerie when you go in there. And I had to go in there at nighttime one time, and had to go in this one building, and the walls are like, what felt like they're like three feet thick. And I had to reach my hand through one of the holes. And it's like, you don't know what, you know, you already have an eerie feeling what the aura is already. And you don't know if anything's going to grab you on the other side of the hole or not. But you just had to go on faith that nothing's going to grab you. And because everything was just felt so dark and stuff in there. So I had, you know, idea, you know, what Masonic homes was even before I even knew what that he was there at one of them. I don't know how many of them there is. But the one I was in was in Elizabethtown, Pennsylvania. And so he didn't, trying to think, I don't think he did he make it through there through his graduation or not. But, um, when he, you know, got out of school, his dad basically said, I, he wasn't going to mount anything. So he ends up joining the Marine Corps. You know, I forgot what the slogan of.
The Marines are, it's like, yeah, that's the man's man of the corps. Once a Marine, always a Marine. That's it. Yeah, once a Marine, always a Marine.
So he wanted to show his dad up, that he can be a man. And, uh, of course, you know, being addicted to drugs and everything, after a while, he got the, he went AWOL and he left. And after a while, they caught up to him and they put him in jail.
Once he got out of, you know, the military jail, he escaped and went back to the same place where they caught him again. And guess what? They caught up to him again and back in again he goes. Then after a while, you know, with all the drugs and everything going through him and the anger, they eventually end up just kicking him out.
So whenever, uh, he got back home and, here, his girlfriend ended up becoming pregnant. And, and when his daughter was born, all, all of a sudden, he just ended up having these, uh, feelings of, uh, suicide thoughts. And, and he just wanted to kill himself. But he knew he can't, couldn't do that for, you know, because he's got a daughter now. He's got to man up. But he just couldn't get away from these thoughts and anger.
And his girlfriend even tried to run away from him. And, and he found them, found her. And he goes, and I'm not sure if he, she was with another man or not, but he says, "What I'm going to do is, I'm going to kill you. I'm gonna kill the man." And as you're watching, and then I'm just gonna kill myself. But he could never do it. He could never pull the trigger.
And he got so angry at one time and, uh, was going past a phone book, and the phone book falls down on the ground. And lo and behold, it opens up to the pages for churches. And he, and he couldn't believe what's going on. And I guess, you know, like the Holy Spirit was just prompting him. And he found a number and he called the guy up. And he, and eventually he went to the house of the, of his phone number. And here it was, Dan Mohler.
And Dan Mohler opens up the door. And, you know, Dan Mohler just all smiles and welcomes him. But Todd, he was just so full of anger. And, and Dan goes, "Well, you're the one that came to me. What do you want?" And to, you know, just spilling out on them. And Dan goes, "Well, if you don't want your life, why don't you give it to Jesus, the one who really wants to have your life?" And, and go, "Well, if he wants it, he can have it." That was a salvation prayer.
Oh, yeah. I mean, uh, I would not want to meet an angry Todd. If it's the opposite of, I mean, how Christ takes your, I mean, completely flips the guy around. How compassionate he is. I can't even imagine how he was back then. So, yeah.
So Todd just says, "Fine, he can have it." So he goes back home and calls up his daughter and tells his daughter, says, "I found Jesus." She goes, "Well, how is he?" He goes, "It's fine." But he, you know, he said the prayer and Jesus did come into his life, but it didn't completely flip it around. So he still had problems with drugs and stuff.
And, and during that time, he was actually part of a, a band. And, and, um, they had band practice. And he goes into the basement where they're having band practice. And he's telling all his guys, all his buddies there, of course, they're all high. And, and he get, and he told his buddies, "I found Jesus." They go, "No, you didn't." Then they gave him a hit. And he just, you know, hit the hit. And, and, uh, they started singing. And all he, all Todd could sing was like, "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus."
And they got so frustrated with him that, that most of them, all quit except for the one guy. And who Todd ended up becoming great friends with, who was good for, great friends with him. But Todd could never come to the point to actually, you know, tell him about Jesus. And could never get to save his, you know, how Jesus come into his life. Which, late, a little bit later in life, he passed away when Todd was in, um, Teen Challenge. And it just tore Todd apart that he was never able to witness to him.
So, as you know, after the band and everything, and Todd still struggling with, you know, drugs, and he ended up going down to downtown York and wanted to get another, some drugs. Where he found, met up with this, a drug dealer. And Todd was pretending to be a police officer to get the drugs off him because Todd didn't have any money to get any drugs.
And as the guy had his hands on the hood of the car, and Todd imitating a police officer, Todd jumps into the car real quick and tried to speed off. As the guy just whipped around with a, with a gun and just started shooting it into the car with the, the bullets. And as the bullets were firing towards Todd, all of a sudden, he heard an audible voice, "I took those bullets for you. Are you ready? Are you ready to serve me?" And as an audible voice, it just rocked his world.
So, so Todd ended up going to Teen Challenge. And he was only there for a short period of time. And during that time, he had three encounters with Jesus. And I didn't really, if he really ever said what those encounters were. But right before he was ready to leave, he went across the street and was sitting on a bench. And all of a sudden, this guy pushing a grocery cart had full of Bibles. And Todd had a conversation with him. And, and I forget what all that conversation was.
But do you remember? Yeah, okay. All right. Yeah. So, but it is a pretty important part of his life because as he was, uh, it was a homeless man. And as he was having this conversation with this man, they depart. The guy pushed the cart away. And Todd went across the street. And his buddies were across back at the Teen Challenge making fun of Todd because he was talking to the homeless man. But as they turned around, the guy was completely gone. So it was pretty much an angel that was actually ministering to Todd.
Right after, right soon as he got out of, uh, Teen Challenge, he goes home. Home. And as he got home, his girlfriend was, uh, in the meantime, she found Jesus. And, uh, totally goes, "Well, I can't stay here then anymore." Because, you know, they both felt convicted. And, and Dan Mohler hadn't been there at the time and said, "Well, we can marry you on Sunday in between the services." So that's what ended up happening. So they got married right away.
So from that, that Todd got saved and changed his life around in 2004. Then in 2014, he started to launch Lifestyle Christianity. Then 2016, he was had a chance to buy this church that was in Dallas, Fort Worth, Texas. And, uh, the reason why the church went under was because of a, the pastor, um, ended up with a, um, a divorce because of infidelity. And so Todd is able to take care of the church and, uh, refine the church, re, um, what word am I looking for? Just reestablish it. Yeah. Reest. Yeah.
And, uh, from that time, he ended up starting with, uh, Power and Love tours, which are still going on right now. And there's one actually going to be here in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, which is only like, uh, less than two hours away from us here in Chambersburg. But, uh, I'm going to read this one here that really sums it up. What about Todd? It says, "Today, Todd preaches the gospel of the Kingdom everywhere he goes, and God backs it up with signs and signs follow him. Todd's heart is equipping the church and activating them to live a 24/7 Kingdom Lifestyle by helping them get out of the boat and brave the waves of fear, empowered by the Holy Spirit."
You know, that's what we're doing here. You know, today, um, it just, I mean, just going through the research, like for me to stand here with the microphone is, yeah, having somebody backing us up, you know, like with Trina here, just giving us the nudge, just stand behind the microphone and preach what, or even talk about what's on your heart. And who, you know, learning about these revivalists is awesome that you guys were able to do this. Get, get behind on, on online here, getting behind the screen of the computer and just speaking into it and just pouring out your heart of what you have learned.
And, um, one of my favorite videos from Todd is, I heard this one a couple months ago, and the title of it was, "Religion Hates Relationship." And in that video, it, uh, talks about how he, his one friend says, "My pastor wants to meet you, Todd." And my pastor does not like you very well at all. He thinks you're a heretic. And of course, Todd's always looking up for a challenge. He goes, "Ah, I'd love to meet him."
So they end up meeting up. And they want to go to a restaurant. And the pastor goes to Todd, says, "What one do you want to go to?" And Todd goes, "Whatever one do you want to go to? What's one of your favorite ones?" So along the way, as they're standing in line for the restaurant, Todd sees this lady with a butterfly tattoo on her wrist. And Todd goes, "Hey, butterflies. I love butterflies." And she looks at me, goes, "You do?" He goes, "Yes. Butterflies, you know, before a butterfly, I was a caterpillar. And I, uh, was, and now I'm a butterfly." Yeah. "And now I'm a butterfly."
And Todd starts explaining why, you know, giving this testimony. And she goes, "I'm not even interested." And Todd continued a little bit more. And she goes, "I told you, I'm not interested." Then the pastor looks at Todd. He goes, "Well, that didn't work out very well." You know, to make him fun of Todd a little bit. So they get seated. And, uh, a waitress comes up and says her name is Faith. And Todd goes, "Faith. I love Faith." You know. And the pastor's eyes are starting to roll.
And, and she was having a bad day. So to, you, you know, doing a little bit, doing a little bit of ministering to her. And next thing you know, the, let's see, which one, Faith, uh, yeah. So anyway, one of the other ladies that Todd was ministering to, and had her sit at the, the booth with the pastor. And she was going through some hard time. And, oh, she was in the New Age. And the pastor goes, "Oh boy."
And, uh, so Todd started praying for her. And next thing you know, she started, uh, manifesting a devil. And so the pastor was starting to pray for her too. And next thing you know, he casts the devil out of her. And all of a sudden, now his life is starting to change. He's starting to see that, that Todd is the real deal. And the pastor's church is a sensation. They don't believe in healing or, um, any miraculous signs. And after seeing the real deal that Todd was, opened up the door for that pastor to allow Todd to come into the church.
And when they started seeing Todd come, that Sunday when Todd came into the church, the people were not too crazy about Todd. But they let Todd speak anyways. And Todd was able to change or help change their mind that, that Jesus still does miracles today. So, um, yeah. So that is some of my story here that, you know, of Todd White. Okay, Trina, you got any testimonies this week? But how does Todd affect your life? How has Todd to affect changed my? What was the question again? Changed your life? How has changed my life?
Well, I just love how Todd is just down to earth. You know, just able to, to meet people at their level. He doesn't come up to approach people like he's high and mighty. I mean, if you ever see pictures of Todd, his dreadlocks down to his waist and just looks, you know, like he says the dreadlocks gets rid of their religious spirit right away. So. And, you know, well, even with some of my long hair, I was tempted to have Tina put braids in my hair, you know, as a little bit of resemblance. But didn't have time to put that all together. You don't, won't let me. Yeah.
So, but just hearing how, how Todd speaks to people is kind of really inspiring me how to present myself in front of people. And, you know, I'm not trying to mirror him. I'm not trying to become Todd White. But I'm just using some of the stuff that he, that he likes to, you know, some of the words he likes to say to people. All right. Anybody got questions online? Crickets. All right. That was awesome, dude. All right. Let me flip you.
Hello, hello, hello everyone. Did an amazing job tonight. Like, this is awesome. I loved hearing about Evan Roberts and Katherine Coleman and, uh, Mary Woodworth Eder and, uh, Miss John G. Lake there. But we'll get him maybe later. Sorry. Oh, um, yeah, you know, on, uh, Alexander, um, D. You know, I, I went up to Zion, Illinois, couple years ago. There a couple of us. Might have been there twice. You know, um, just walking around the property, just enamored by an entire city for at least three to three and a half years that actually walked with no doctors in the city. And they believe by faith. And some of the most amazing revivalists that they went there. They, they got, got to see God like reignite them. It was radical. It was amazing. You know, and, um, yeah.
So I'm going to start mine. So trying to figure out how to do this. I need a hands-free microphone. You know, so I can hold the microphone for you. No, it's okay. I might poke you. I did it for Craig. Yeah, but he's not animated. So I am doing my revivalist one. The most amazing, incredible revivalist of all times. Can you imagine who it is? Nope. Anybody else got any takers? How about online? No takers. To know who I might be speaking on, male or female? Sorry. I had a phone call. What did you ask? Trina, you woke me up. What? Turn that down. That's hot. Oh, yeah. Turn it down. Turn it down, please. Yeah. So who do you got? Got Billy Graham. Can you guess who I'm gonna speak on? Yeah. I'm gonna guess probably Billy Graham. No. Johnson. No. Oh, that's a good one. No. They might all be related to him though. I think they're all related to him. Randy Clark. No. I was, I was thinking about Randy Clark and Tom Solo. Yeah. Um, I need to let Tom know that I was going to do a, a revivalist meet, speaking on him. That would have been awesome. Oh, someone guessed it. Oh, someone guessed Jesus. Yes. Who's the winner? It's Jesus. J's the win. I, I didn't. All right. So y'all can critique me, okay? So remember, he's listening. I know he's in me. Come on, Jesus, rise up.
So he's the most amazing, most incredible revivalist ever. And his name is Jesus. You know, he tells the disciples that, you know, the comforter that you know him because he's with you and he's going to be in you. Oh, man. Yeah, like Jesus. He's a pretty cool guy. He's a pretty cool guy. I like he is. Well, but you did, you know that I believe that, um, Jesus couldn't be who he was called to be or to be in the right place if he didn't have other people and be obedient to God also. You know, I believe that God sets up this amazing plan of our life. And, and I pray that I really do a good job of this to help you understand how important your life is because of who you are and what you may be called to do. You're not called just to be a mom or a sister or a daughter or or a dad. You're not called to just be an engineer or a construction guy. You're not just called to be wallowing in self-pity. You're called to be pulled up out of the pit of hell and to walk with the enemy under your feet and to love the hell out of people and to walk with a compassion, a love, and a joy that is immeasurable.
So if you think about this, Noah had to hear God and had to build an ark when it wasn't even raining. I don't even know if they even knew what rain was. And, and it wasn't just like two months or two years. I think it was like, was it 400 years or something? Some crazy amount of time. Maybe it's 100 years. I apologize with that. I don't know. But anyway, so he had to be obedient so that God could wipe out a lot of the sin. Then you have Moses and Abraham. And they had to walk out obedience. You know, Moses got to lead a group of people into the wilderness. But you know, Joshua, Joshua comes along and he gets to put the enemy under his feet as he walks into the promised land. So each one of these was building a momentum to get Jesus where he needed to be so that he could be who he was called to be. And, and so without, with, with the life of Jesus, we, I don't think we could do what he did. And I'm not taking away from that. But because of what he did, he lives inside of me. And he says that we're going to do greater. You know, I haven't even scratched the surface of what that looks like if, in my life, I haven't even done what he has fully done on this earth. Must, let's do more.
But Mary, Mary was visited by an angel and said, "You're going to be with child and you're going to give birth, and his name is going to be Emmanuel." And then an angel has to visit Joseph and lead him in the right path because he, he was going to hear a lot of negative stuff about his future wife carrying a baby. And that was never heard of, except it was, you know, outside of, you know, their covenant with each other. And the angel, Lord, told him what Mary was going to be carrying. And so he had to be obedient to the law to be in Nazareth at the right time. You know, and everyone else went to fulfill the duty of the senses. And so the whole place was packed. There was no room at the inn. And Jesus is born as a baby in a, in a, you're not a pastor, he was born as a baby in a barn. He didn't come in royalty. He didn't come as a king. He didn't come sweeping in with a gold spoon in his mouth. He didn't come with lots of money. He came in swaddling clothes as a little baby with no power and authority and had to rely on people to carry him around, to teach him how to walk, how to crawl, how to talk. You know, and the angel of the Lord came in a dream and showed Joseph how to protect and send him off into Egypt.
I love how God has created our Savior. He didn't create him in someone who's not tangible. He didn't create him in someone who we can't relate to. He is the most beloved lover ever. Like, there's no love that can touch the love of Christ. And what he did for us. And when he laid his life down, it wasn't for himself. It was for all of us so that we could have life everlasting, eternal life with the Lord forever and ever and ever.
So you have Adam and Eve, and they're given all dominion on Earth. And you have temptation come in, and that temptation steals the keys. And then all through the rest of the book until Jesus, people battled with sin. And some really nasty sin. But God had a plan. And he brought this amazing man of God. He brought Jesus. He, he brought himself. He brought his own right hand to be our Savior. And without him, we wouldn't have any life. We wouldn't know who we were. We would be wallowing in self-pity. We would be in the pit of hell. On Earth, as he walked on this earth, he saw blind eyes open, deaf ears open, he saw the lame walk. But, you know, a lot of people say that, you know, there's, he brought peace. But he brought a different kind of peace. And he brought a peace that was not of this world. And he says it in John 17. He came to flip the tables of the religious spirit. He came to remove complacency. He came and brought chaos where there was a peace with man. He divided mother and daughter. He divided family. And he gave us a choice to follow him.
When Peter's standing on that boat, and Jesus is saying, "Come, follow me." Like, I, I don't know what it was like for Peter to stand there. But I can just only imagine because at the end, when he accepts and follows him, he falls on his knees and he says, "Depart from me, me, because I'm a sinner. I'm a horrible person." But Jesus loved on Peter in a way that no one had ever touched his heart in such a way that he followed him all the days of his life, minus those three moments when he denied him.
You look at the woman at the well, and she had what, five or seven husbands. And the one that she was with, she wasn't even married. And Jesus shares everything about her life in such a way that it brings a love that grips her heart that she runs back to her village and they all come to know Christ. Like, there's such a love in him that pulls you out of the darkness, pulls you out of the pit. He came for not just Jews, but also the Gentiles. The woman at the well was a Samaritan. And it was a person that the Jews wouldn't even approach. They would walk on the other side of the street. But he went. And he didn't give heed to the law where the Jewish person wasn't allowed to speak to a Gentile, much less a woman. And he knew what the Father showed him. He went where the Father was. And he did what the Father asked him to do. And it says in scripture that he said only exactly what the Father told him to say. We can't even fathom that. We have so many voices going on around us. I want that clarity. I want that. I want to know him in such a way that I hear the Father, that I see where the Father is, that I let Jesus rise up inside of me. And then I, and then I am led by the Holy Spirit. That little unction that says, you know, your eyes get drawn to a shirt twice while you're packing. I think I should probably pick that up. You know, you walk past something in your house and you're like, "I never saw that before." Ah, maybe I should pick that up. You know, you just never know when you need something. And that little unction is the Holy Spirit guiding you to grab something, to look at someone, to speak to someone, to to buy something that you need later for someone else.
I, I love how Jesus, he, he adored his disciples. He, he didn't, like, I love this story of John and James and they come back and, and they, they're like, "Why don't you call down fire?" And Jesus is like, "You don't know what spirit you are." You know. And he doesn't say, "You know what, boys? You like to need to go to seminary school for like three and a half years because you don't know what spirit you're of." He didn't say that. He didn't say, "You know what? I think you need to take a time out and sit over there in the corner and watch me. Watch how I do it." No. You know what he does? He takes those two men and the other 10, and he sends them out with a total of 72 of them. And they're leading the way. He didn't put them on a time out. He set them out. And they came back with such excitement and said, "Yeah, Jesus, even the demons would submit to us in your name." And he said, "Yeah, he said, I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven." Oh, like, come on. Like, he's, I believe that there was so much power in the word Jesus, that when the enemy came out of the people, it was Satan falling like lightning in each one, in each one. Because you have this principality. And every time someone comes into the kingdom of God, I think it's one less hold that Satan has. And he falls again, and he falls again, and he falls again until he has no more hold on the earth. I'm excited about that day because I believe it's possible with God. Everything is possible.
Well, you know, um, I didn't even get my notes. I love this. He's 12 years old. And so can you picture yourself being 12? I can kind of sort of picture myself at maybe 12. I was very skittish. I was, um, probably very timid. I didn't talk much. I know that's hard to believe, but no, I did not talk much. Um, yeah, I was like, I learned how to be seen and not heard. I learned that, you know, the less that you were even seen, that was better too, because you didn't want the wrath of the belt, you know. And so I can picture being 12, and I totally had no intelligence. And I had probably not much wisdom, you know. And I know I didn't understand English. But Jesus was found in the synagogue at 12 years old. And his parents went to the, I think it was the, um, what's the, this time of the Passover? The Passover. He, they went to the Passover festival. And Jesus is not returning with his family. But it takes him like, what, three days to come back and pick him up because he realized the day out that he's not with them. Like a 12-year-old. Like I can just see the parents like, "All right, um, all the kids are in the car. Wait a minute. There's a seat that doesn't have a buddy." Most parents are pretty, you know, um, they, they're not, they would notice. Except, you know, actually yesterday to speak of that, I was at a restaurant yesterday, one Sunday. And this was crazy because this husband and wife and some kids came out of the restaurant. And the father like scared and went back in the restaurant. And we're like, it was kind of like a, like a weird moment. He comes out with the baby. He forgot the baby at the restaurant. They, they hadn't been to the car yet. But that was kind of funny. I did that one time. Tina did that one time. Yeah.
But so you have this 12-year-old little boy, and he's speaking to the Jewish leaders, and they're in amazement of what he's saying. At 12 years old, God was already speaking to him. God was already raising him up. You know, the scripture says that the generational curses were broken off. You know, he was not born from Joseph, so he didn't have the, you know, all those generational curses to deal with when he was born. You know, I believe that he got a clean slate. I believe that God made sure that the open heavens never got closed. He, he put him in the midst of Mary and Joseph to raise him in a way that he was to go. But yet, she, she didn't quite understand that he was about the Father's business. So at age 12, in Jewish culture, the, the son becomes about the Father's business. And I thought it was so cool when I was looking at that. I'm like, he went to be about the Father's business, Father God's business. And he showed the Jewish leaders, I believe that day, some new things. You know, out of the mouth of the babes, amazing things come. And through Jesus is in the synagogue, and he's about the Father's business. And he grows in favor with man and with God from that moment. So he starts to become a man. And God is grooming him to walk in a place that no man could walk and to do something that no person could ever do. And he did it as a man. Like, that's the part I love. Is he's filled with the Holy Spirit and he's hearing and listening to the Father. And he's speaking what the Father is. It's the Trinity, but it's a man. And as he's on the cross, he says, "Forgive them, they know not what they do." He laid his life down. He told what's the guy that's in charge, um, that was crucifying him, the king, oh, Pontius Pilate. He told him that, "I choose you cannot, you cannot hurt me. I choose to lay my life down. I choose to pick it back up." He chose to lay his life down. He laid aside deity. He gave everything for us. And like, you realize that lives inside of you, that ability to lay down your life and completely allow it to die so that others can live. Lives inside of you. Wow. Like the compassion, the love, the joy, the peace, the heart of the Father. It, it beats in your heart. It resonates in your DNA. It comes alive inside of you. The Holy Spirit brings it all alive. And it lives in, inside of you. It lived inside of the disciples. And as they walked out life in Acts, like you see when the Holy Spirit showed up, things happened. Signs, wonders, and miracles brought more people. And the church grew and grew and grew. We need to allow that to come back. We need to allow the Holy Spirit to come back in us, rise up in us, and allow us to be led into all the world and watch God show up. Just like Paul, it says that God backed him up. As Paul stepped, God backed up Paul. And signs and wonders happened. And it led people to Christ. That is, oh, like I love it. I'm excited about this time because we are born for such a time as this. And we may not know why we're here. But I feel like God wants you to really, really search out why did he create you? Why now? Why in the midst of hell on earth were you created? What inside of you is going to be used by God to destroy the path of the enemy and allow you to walk with the enemy under your feet? What inside of you will get charged up and allow the Holy Spirit to explode all over people? And don't tell me that you're not called because every one of us are called if you choose to accept that call.
So throughout, like, I, there's so many things that I can say. But Jesus is inside the disciples. So the one who laid his life down is inside the disciples. And they saw this happen. You know, I don't know what it takes for us to grab a hold of the upgrade. You know, watching maybe the Passion movie every day and realize how important he is in our life. You know, getting into his presence and allowing him to be more tangible in our life, allowing the Holy Spirit to rise up inside of us, grabbing the Bible and allowing it to come alive in our life, figuring out how we can use it as a roadmap to our life and not just a history book. Like, there's so many things you can sit and listen to worship and you can allow the Holy Spirit to just pour out and fill you up. One thing I do know is when Mordecai talked to Esther and said, "You need to go to the king." And she was afraid. And he said, "Well, he says, it's not going to be well with you and your family if you choose not to go. And God will raise someone else up." Like, God wants to use you. He wants to use me. He wants to use every person that is alive today to thump the hell out of the enemy and claim back the Earth because it was his. And he gave it to Adam and Eve. He gave it to them and said, "Go and multiply. I've given you dominion over all." And the enemy stole that. But we get it back when we claim Jesus inside of us. He won. He claimed the keys back. He conquered hell. He was resurrected. And he sits at the right hand of the Father, where we get to sit. In John 17, it says we become one with him as he's one with the Father. We sat there. We have the power and authority of Christ. And we reign on Earth. And we put the enemy under our feet. And we thump him back to the pit of hell. And the reason why I want to share some things with you is he lived with the disciples. And he came and lived inside of the disciples. What, what is in your DNA that God has already used? That is rising up inside of you in a greater measure? And I want to share some things. Like, most of us have no clue outside of maybe two generations what our families were like. And most of us have no understanding of any Christianity in our life. When, if you look at the Bible, God uses so many people that had no understanding of Christ, and he used them mightily and powerfully. My family, on my dad's father's side, came from Norway. They, they experienced the Holy Spirit in the middle of somewhere in the middle of a fjord, which is where icebergs used to set. And it creates this beautiful, beautiful water. And they have this field. And they're down off of the mountain in this valley where it's really cold. And winters are really tough. And probably long, because, you know, you have 24 hours or pretty much 24 hours of darkness at the same time. And other times of the year, you have 24 hours of daylight. Which I've seen that, and it's gorgeous. But it drives you crazy because you want to see the sunset. And then you turn around, you want to see the sunrise. And like, that means you didn't sleep. You know. And I'm one that's like an Energizer bunny. And like, I got to drive the next day. How's that work? You know, I'm, I get excited because it doesn't, like, happen right away. It's a slow fade. And then it's a slow rise. And so it could be hours. And you're watching this beautiful, beautiful, exquisite beauty of God paint a picture in front of you. But they lived in this beautiful place. And this, they, they experienced the Holy Spirit. And he opened their eyes so much that this comes alive. And they realize and they're so convicted by God and by the word. And they see that the church is not walking into the rightness of God. And they have a choice. Do they believe this? Or do they believe that? Do they believe this? Do you believe this? Or do you believe them? Which one? Sometimes they're different. Sometimes they're the same. You just have to have discernment. Well, theirs wasn't the same. And so they had to choose. And I thought it was just maybe a couple years. Pretty sure it's 14 years. They lived under religious persecution. They were religious outcasts for 14 years. And that was the only church. And it probably wasn't a lot of people around, you know. But you probably needed to rely on those people to get things done, because you had to work more in unity when you live out in the middle of somewhere. At the same time, they get touched by the Holy Spirit. God gives a dream to a guy in, in Ohio, Iowa, Iowa. And this guy in Iowa named Lindley Murray gets this amazing dream of this beautiful location. And it takes him 14 years to find them. He goes on a ship. He leaves his family of four kids and his wife. And he goes on a ship in search of this beautiful location because God said, "When you find this location, you'll find the Quakers." Are we willing to lay our life down like that missionary? I don't know if he ever saw his family after that. You know, I don't know if it took him just 14 years before he saw him again. Like, your kids are going to grow up. Your wife is going to have a different life. Like, I'm believing she will not be with another man. I'm believing that if she knows that you're dedicated and you're going to, you know, um, just go after God's work, that you're not going to do something, you know, that's out of that context. But, you know, 14 years. We don't know how their mail was. We don't know how they communicated. We don't know if there was a lack of communication. I mean, that would have been across the pond. That wouldn't have been down the street. You know, you couldn't have had, you know, our mail service come and, you know, the Pony Express drop off mail very easily. But this guy, he goes and he finds my family. And they come to America and they leave religious persecution and they come and find religious freedom. My, my dad's mom has a similar story. I'm, I'm one of the long-distant grandchildren of Charles the Great. And there's, through our lineage, there's a lot of pastors. And there's a lot of things that we found out, a lot of really good people. And then my mom's dad is named Martin Luther Smith. And we're not sure if we have a relation to Martin Luther or if the family was so impacted by Martin Luther that they named their son Martin Luther. They're German. And usually a German will only name a name outside of their family as if they've been impacted. So we're not sure because there's not a lot of information about the family after a certain generation. There's a skip. And so we don't know. But God told me one day, he said, "So what if I named your grandfather Martin Luther so that his granddaughter would know our call in life?" Martin Luther was a reformer. And he made things happen. And he changed things. And then I'm finding out that my mom's mom, her lineage is rich too. And it goes back to this Samuel Golden. And he came over here from Switzerland. And he came over to Pennsylvania. And he was the first Reformed Pastor in Pennsylvania in the 1700s, early 1700s. And he helped Zinzendorf. And he helped the Moravians. I, I think that is so cool that I have heritage that we're talking about Zinzendorf and the Moravians. And my family was helping them. Like, he's the first pastor. And he has such an impact on the pastors that are coming in the late 1700s when the Second Great Awakening happens. He's not involved in that. I don't think he was around. But his imprint, his fingerprints were on these people. Your DNA, you don't know who you touch. You don't know who you make an impact. You don't realize who is inside of you. Like Jesus lives inside of us. The revival of all revivals is in us. And when he rises up, we can become everything and anything that we need to be in that moment to touch that one person or a million people. I hope that you realize that Jesus, as a revivalist, lives in us. And that means that you're a revivalist too. And that's why I chose him to help you know that you have more inside of you than you can ever dare dream or imagine. And, you know, Paul says that we are to finish the race well. So many revivalists don't finish the race well. So many of them have stumbled. And a lot of them didn't have people to run beside them that would help them. We heard about Katherine Coleman and how she got ripped off the stage as she's preaching because she was divorced. God gave divorce in the Bible. Like, hello? You know, if God was against it, I don't think he would have put it in the Bible. You know, and one sin is the same as all sin. And I bet you could have looked at that pastor and found some sin in his life that would have been the same as her divorce if they wanted to call it sin. You know, Evan Roberts, like, he was in the mines. Like, he was in the dirt. He was in the trenches with men. He, he was with hardcore guys. And God gave him favor to reach those people in that mine, in there, in that pit. You know, I, I love Todd White. Like, his story is such a stellar story. But he gets hammered all the time. You know, we have to keep our eyes on Christ and not allow people to put us on a pedestal. Just like we just read that about, um, Paul and Silas in the book of Acts, where they called him Zeus and Hermes and tried to put crowns on them. And they're like, "No, no, no. Like, you can't stop looking at us and start looking at him because he's the one." I love how Katherine Coleman would tell people that you, um, don't, don't you dare lift me up. You lift him up because I'm not even touching people. Like, I love, I didn't know that she didn't really lay hands on a lot of people. I knew the Holy Spirit was so raw and real in her gatherings. And she would stand there and she would wait for him to come. In the later years, and she would not walk out on the stage until he came. And she would tell him, "Don't you dare offend my friend." She knew the importance of the Holy Spirit. And she knew that we couldn't offend him. You know, it says that we can talk ill about Jesus, but how dare you talk ill about the Holy Spirit? Oh, man. There's so much to talk about. There's, I have one scripture. I'm going to kind of land the plane here. John 14. Jesus says this to the disciples. He says, "Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me. Or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. I tell you the truth that anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these because I go to the Father. And I will do whatever you ask in my name so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it." John 14:15. "If you love me, you will obey what I command. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another comforter to be with you forever, the Spirit of truth. Because I live, you also will live in me. And I in you. And whoever has my commandments and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him." Down in 15:16, it says, "You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit—fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name." This is the command: Love each other. Like, do we realize that maybe we're not seeing Jesus show up or answer our prayers because we're not out there being fruitful? And being fruitful doesn't mean you're doing stuff for God. You're doing stuff with God. And you're looking to see where the Father is. And you're going where the Father is. And you're guided by the Holy Spirit. And you're letting Jesus rise up inside of you. And you're just going to leak Jesus everywhere you go. And Jesus was love. He was joy. He was peace. And just watch him leak out of you as you stay filled. He says to keep your oil filled in your vessel. Let your lamp be filled with oil. In this time, don't allow anything but the lamp to be filled. Oh, John 17:4, it says, "I have brought you glory on earth by completing the works you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began." He was giving God glory on Earth for the first time. I believe that was the first time that God got glory on Earth since Adam lost the keys. Wow. And do you know that whether Jew or Gentile, American, Russian, whatever we are, do you know that the Gregorian calendar, I think that's what they call it, the one we use, do you know that it actually prophesied when Jesus was going to be born? I'm pretty sure. You know, I need to double check this, but I believe that it became zero the year that Jesus was born. The BC.
It ended BC when Jesus is born, and it started at 1 when he was born. Like, isn't that crazy? Like, our calendar even ended and started on the birth of Jesus. I don't know if it's the exact same day. I don't know that. I don't really care about that, but I'm excited because even people that were not Christians follow our calendar all the time. I know there's a Jewish calendar, and I, I'm not against it, but I'm saying that non-Christians could have created the the calendar, and it involves Christ. That's crazy.
Recording stopped. H. That's all right. So I love this in uh 17:113. "I am coming to you now, but I say these things while I am still in the world so that they may have the full measure of my joy within them." Jesus gives us his full measure of his joy. Come on, John 17. You can't get enough of it. And this 15 says, "My prayer is not that you take them out of this world, but that you protect them from the evil one." He, he, he doesn't want God to take us out of our problems. He wants God to go through it with us to protect us. You know, and it says, um, down here in 24, "Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am and to see my glory, the glory you have given me before you loved me before the creation of the world." It, I just, I just saw this today. "I want those you have given me to be with me where I am." Not where I'm going, where I am. To be with him. Woo! Come on.
And then I'm going to John 17:20. "My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message." We all have a message. And what are you going to do with the message that God gave you? I really pray that God will help you find your message and help you to know who you are called to be, because I feel that the world needs you to know who you are called to be. He needs you to want to get vision, to get dreams, and to understand who you are in Christ so that you can be who He is calling you to be.
If you think about [Music] this, Gideon is standing there and he has 300 men and thousands of of another army in front of him. And he has a glass vase in everyone's hands, and smash the vase. Did you know that a v, um, an egg cannot be used until it's broken? A broken vase, God can use us in our brokenness. And as they break the vase, as they smash it to smithereens, and it makes this loud noise, and it probably echoed across the valley. It probably sounded like lots of soldiers. When we, we break, and God uses us, maybe we sound like lots of soldiers too. And they pick, they have the torch in their left hand, they're carrying the light of Christ, and they have a trumpet. And I love this because the trumpet means when they blow the trumpet, it means it removes the veil. The veil is not just torn, it is removed. When we stand in our identity and know who we are, the veil is removed. So I'm excited to see where God takes everyone. And my most amazing, favorite revivalist is Jesus. God bless you. All right, what's going on? Um, Acts. Yes. What time is it? Tor. Minute break. All right, let's take a five-minute break. And we have, who do we have first? I thought I took a picture. Your questions out. I took a bunch. Oh, Kathy Pacman, you have Acts 18. Lori Shaw, you have Acts 19. And Jenna, you are 20. We can do those three this, this week. If we have time, we could do Joanne if she's ready on 21 too. Do I have anybody out there? You can say, take a, a break. Yeah, take a break. I just want to let you know to be ready. Get your questions out. Get your questions out. Get your Bible out. Get your sword out. I'll feel good. Jesus knew I would. So good. So fine. We, you weren't muted yet. [Music] Good. Anybody ready? Was anybody, everyone go to sleep? Was it good? Good preach. How long did I? About at least a half hour. Oh, that's not bad. I'm not bad. At least a half. I, at least a half an hour. Well, you kept moving. So I, sorry. Thank you. I stop it for a second. The recording. You need more space on your computer. So we can do this way. Recording in progress. Yes, my computer. So who, um, Fiz are over there? That's your can? Or that Jeff's can? That was Jeff's, but it's mine now. Stop playing. My, his drink. Your drink is. I did. Dr. Is my drink? My drink is my dr. It's wasting here and I'm like, I think that's mine. No, it was not. See how you are? How do you not know that your kid is with you for three days? I love the commentary. [Music] Awesome. Tell you my story. One time we went to the park. Yeah, and we, I was picking up some two teenagers from tennis practice. And DK said, can I? Been playing on the rocks while waiting for them to get done. Like, oh, sure, go ahead. Forgot he got out of the vehicle. I went and checked. Like, how? Like, a count of the heads. When I forgot I had an extra head. Oh, no. And like, you, five years old, you took an extra kid with you? No, no. I had an extra kid with me. I was picking two of them up. Two up with tennis practice. Driving the other one off their house. Next. See this kid in the back corner of my eye running ahead. Like, oh, one of the kids in the back. That's D. I'm like, oh, shoot. I pull over across the road. I ask if you remember that for. Are you good or you need to get home? Bed? I'm good. Oh, you're good. Now, M. All ready? Yep. Hello, Cathy Pacman. Are you ready? Yeah. Hold on. Awesome. Okay, can you pin Tina? Hold on a sec. Let Tina pin you. Unpin. Oh, and take all the other things. Oh, you don't want to be there. Take everything else off there. To fix. All right, go for it. Okay, um, so Acts 18. So in the beginning of Acts 18, Paul leaves Athens and goes to Corinth. And that's where he meets, um, Aquila and, um, and Priscilla, who have been have gone there to Corinth from Rome because in AD 49, the Emperor Claudius, um, banished all the, all the Jews from Rome. And so, um, since they were all three tent makers, he joined up with them and they were plying their trade of tent making. Um, and but it said on the Sabbath, he would reason in the synagogue and persuaded both Jews and Greeks. And the Greeks he was talking about are Greeks who had converted to Judaism. Um, but I thought one of the interesting things there is the, the word they use is reason. They did not say he went and taught in the synagogue, but he actually reasoned. Um, because the only way that he had really of persuading them, you know, we can go to any of the Gospels and we can open up and we can read things that Jesus did, the healings, the different things like that, and we can tell people about that. But what they had back then was they had the Torah, the first, you know, five books of the Bible, and they had writings of the prophets. So what they could do, what, you know, what Paul did was go back and find all the prophecies that pointed to Jesus being the Messiah, and he would use that as the foundation to convince, um, the Jewish people that Jesus was indeed the Messiah. So anyway, um, so, so he is, Paul is, um, questioned in the synagogues and persuading people, uh, to really, to come to Christ, to get to know Christ. So, uh, and but in the midst of all of this, when he is, uh, testifying to the Jews that Jesus is the Christ, in in verse five, then in verse six, it, you know, after he said that people were becoming believers, in verse six, he says, they opposed him, meaning the Jews, and blasphemed, which means they basically denied the Holy Spirit. And he shook off his garments and said, "Your blood be upon your own heads. I'm clean. From now on, I'm going to the Gentiles." You know, and that's a very famous verse, and people use that as saying, well, you know, Paul says he's going to go to the Gentiles. And that was my, my question for the group, for anybody who wants to ponder this, that I was doing when I read it. So, you know, how is he? I picture Paul being really mad and basically saying, "Look, if you're not listening, I'm done. I'm out of here. You know, you're, I'm leaving you to yourselves." But then when you go on down in chapter 18, verse 19, he goes to Ephesus, and the first thing he does is he enters the synagogue and starts reasoning with the Jews there. So obviously, don't know, you know, does that mean he just said all that stuff out of anger? Does that mean he was only going to do that in Corinth? He was, you know, done with the Jews in Corinth and only going to minister to the Gentiles? Or, you know, or did he just change his mind along the way? I don't know. So that's the, that's the question that I'm, I'm throwing out there, um, for, for people to ponder and think about. Um, so then after, after he got mad and left and said he was only gonna talk to the Gentiles, um, it goes, he goes on, he has a vision. He said the Lord spoke to him in a vision and said, "Do not be afraid, but speak. Do not keep silent. I'm, I'm with you. No one's going to attack you to hurt you." And he said, had many people, many followers in that city. And, um, so anyway, um, so he goes on, like I said, he goes on from there and and goes to Ephesus, um, and, um, when he goes to Ephesus, Priscilla and the go with him. And, um, and from there he goes on to, uh, to Caesarea and Jerusalem, and then he turns back around and goes back to Antioch and goes from there to Galatia and Phrygia and goes on and does yet another one of his journeys all around and strengthening the disciples in all the churches that he has begun, um, all over Turkey and Greece in those areas. Um, the rest of chapter 18 talks about a, a man named Apollos, who was born in Alexandria, so he's essentially, I guess, an Egyptian. And said he was very eloquent and very learned in the scriptures, and began speaking and teaching, um, but he had not had the baptism of the Spirit. But he met up with, um, Aquila and Priscilla, and they taught him more about Jesus and the things that they had learned from Paul. And so, um, they went over to Greece, and he did, he went to Greece, Apollos did, and did more teaching and showing the Jews from the scriptures that Jesus was indeed who he said he was. And that's pretty much it for Acts 18. That is amazing. Like, I don't think I saw that part that you just said about, um, in verse six, "Your blood be on your own heads. I am innocent of it." Wow. And, and he left. Like, of a translation, you're reading. Yeah. Which one? What, what translation are you reading? That's the, that's the New King James Version. Okay. I like that. I like how you read it. Can you read it again? Verse six? Yeah. "But when they opposed him and blasphemed, he shook his garments and said to them, 'Your blood be upon your own heads. I am clean. From now on, I will go to the Gentiles.'" Come on. I like that. Yeah. My paraphrase was, "Look, if you're not going to listen, I'm out of here." Hey, what's the Passion say? Hold on a second. You got it. I'm curious what the Passion Translation says. "When they viciously slandered him and hurled abuse on him, he symbolically shook the dust off his clothes in protest against them. He said to them, 'Have it your way then. I am guiltless as to your fate, for the blood guilt of your actions will be on your own heads. And from now on, I will preach to the non-Jews.'" Wow. Yeah, he gets, he gets a little like serious. And I think we're, we need to start getting a little serious. Yeah. Anybody have any questions about anything that Kathy just talked about? Do you guys have any questions? Ah, there we go. We got Lori. Get your volume on, Lori. You now. So what's your comment? What's my comment? Yeah, we, we thought you came up for a reason. No, I unpinned. Oh, you unpinned. Oh, yeah. Well, while you're up, do you have any, any ideas or anything to, to say about any of the scriptures that was just spoken about? Interesting. He's just all over. Okay. Of miles. Yeah, your volume was in and out. So I don't know. Is it your video? In your TV, computer? No. Can you hear me? It goes in and out. Do you have, um, what's it called where it says singles out the voice? What's there's a setting on it? I think cancelling. Noise cancelling or something. I wonder if that's what's causing it to. Well, she has two different devices on. To maybe the volume. I have two devices. Oh, okay. There. That's better. Here's a video one. The volume. Okay. Talking. The other one. Yeah. And I also like the part in 13. It says, "This man they charge is persuading the people to worship God in ways contrary to the law." Wow. We're always getting ourselves in trouble. He was very persuasive, you know, and he, he knew the law. And that's the crazy part because he was a Pharisee of all Pharisees. So he knew the law. And he, and I like how you said that, Kathy, that he, he knew how to persuade them. You know, I love how you did some background on some of that. Thank you so much. All right, who's number 19? H. Lori. Okay, you are next. All right. That's why you came [Music] up. Allen, pin Kelly [Music] now. He's back in. You hear me? No, no. It's in and out. Um, seems like you talk. Sounds like you talk. You sound better when you talk to the right. Talk to the right. And see, there. I move my phone back over. That sounds a lot. There. Okay. Okay, now it's see me the whole time. There you go. I'll be like, I'll hold the thing here a little bit. Okay. So in verse two, okay, it, there Paul, some disciples, and he asked them, "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?" "Yes." I thought that was kind of a unique question because it says there's some disciples, and usually when you think of disciples, you think they already know Jesus, right? But they answered him, "No, we have not even heard there is a Holy Spirit." That's one of my favorite scriptures. Kind of stumped with that. Says, "Then what baptism did you receive?" And they said, "John's baptism." So here they were, disciples that were still followers of John. They didn't even know Jesus had been born and died yet. So they didn't have the H, the baptism of the Holy Spirit, and they didn't even know there was one. The Paul says to them in four, he says, "John's baptism was the baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in, I'm coming soon." Who? That are we good? Yes. Yes. And he says, "He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, and that is Jesus." And that's what John's baptism was. He says, "Prepare the way. There's one coming." So that's the one they knew. And then in, I says, "On hearing this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus." So here they are, they're baptized into the name of Jesus. And in six, it says, "When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied." So I guess that's my question at this point for everybody. I guess, when did you receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit? Yes. And when you received it, did you prophesy? And did you speak in tongues? You have a prayer language? That's my question. So, 8, um, it says, "Paul entered the synagogue and spoke boldly." And that's what we receive in Acts one. It tells us Jesus said, "Wait for the Holy Spirit, the gift of the Father." And when you receive that, you will witness for him boldly. You'll be able to go, proclaim him to the ends of the earth. And their pa is there for three months. It says he's arguing persuasively about the kingdom of God. That's my other question. How do we argue persuasively about the kingdom of God? How do we speak boldly? I mean, we desperately need that gift from the Father. The nine says, "But some of them became obstinate." So back as Kathy said, they didn't want to hear it. They refused to believe and publicly malign the way. Paul left again. Paul left. I'm looking here. He gets beat. Paul left them. He took the disciples with them and had discussions daily in a lecture hall. In scripture, it says we should be, um, meditating on God's word day and night. Here Paul is with them for two years. And he says, "This went on for two years so that all the Jews and Greeks who lived in the province of Asia heard of the word of the Lord." I guess that's my other question. Is that the, what community do we live in that hears the word of the Lord? How often do we go out and speak about them? Do we have that boldness? The 11, God, it says, "God did extraordinary miracles through Paul so that even the handkerchiefs and the aprons that Paul had touched, taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured, and the evil spirits left them." So on that one, I'm jumping to Mark 16 and the Great Commission that Jesus gives to his disciples. And he tells them, "Go out in all to all the world. He preach the gospel. Heal the sick. Um, you'll receive, speak in tongues. You'll deliver people of demons. You pick up snakes." And that, I would say, that's not literal. They, that's in the spirit realm. Um, and you'll see deliverance. But it also says, "The Lord works with them, and signs and miracles will follow them." So we see that with Paul, signs and miracles are following him. In 13, "Some of the Jews went around driving out evil spirits, tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. These were the sons of Sceva." And they said, "In the name of Jesus whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out." Guess what happened? The demons beat him up. That's my other question. Is how did they know those demons know that these Jewish men didn't have the, they didn't believe in Jesus and didn't have the baptism in the Holy Spirit? How did they know? You, that's in the spirit. They know Jesus. They bow to Jesus. In every story of the Bible, yeah, they know the, the enemy knows the children of God because that's who he's after. Yes. Is because of the testimony of Jesus Christ that lives in him. Amen. I'm, I'm learning too. But I love, yeah, this is actually one of my favorite scriptures, is Acts 19:2-7. Like, I really feel like this is, Paul says, "When you believe." So he didn't deny that they were believers. And he said, "When you believe, did you believe in the Holy Spirit?" And they said, "No, we hadn't even heard of him. Who is he?" You know, and, and when they lay his hands on them, they don't just get the gift of tongues, but they get the gift of prophecy. Yep. And that means that you can hear God for other people also. Like, that's all the gift of prophecy really is. Is, yeah, I can guess I can come in front. But La, maybe. Yeah, I mean, and, and I believe that in the midst of that, that's where the fruit of the gifts come. Is when we're baptized in the Holy Spirit. We can't have it without it. We might have a portion. God can do all kinds of things. And I think sometimes we get things when we're younger, and we don't even realize it. But I believe for the most part, we, the body of Christ, is lacking the baptism of the Holy Spirit. And that means that we lack the fruits of the spirit. And we can't do, that's why most people don't know what prophecy is. They, they can't do it without, you know, without, without the Spirit of God. And, yeah, we get a portion of it. But like, you know, they were believers, they just weren't, they didn't have the power. Trina, thank you. Yeah, thank you so much, Lori. That's awesome. And you know, and I also liked, um, the, the one where you said about, um, the sons of Sceva. I really believe that, you know, there's a lot of people that want to do deliverance and they don't have enough respect to know how, how demonic the enemy can be. You know, they don't understand how evil he is. I literally saw the evilness of the demonic. And, you know, I believe a lot of the homicides, if not all of them, are probably caused by demons. You know, and, and if we would start to bring it back into church and get rid of the de, demons out of the people, we would see a lot more love come into the people. I think that rhymed. I like how Summer talked about she was interested in deliverance. And I think that's powerful. I think we all should know a little bit about deliverance. Yeah. Understand more what we open the door up to. Yes. And, oh, absolutely. I have a whole testimony of what happens when you allow things and how easy, um, unclean spirits enter in. Like, it's big. It's, it's serious. And I mean, they are just. Do you have any questions? I mean, even real relevant right now to in my life, you know, I, so attempt was in August, and directly after that, um, you know, CH, you guys, she became my best friend, and then I ended up having to live with her cuz I lost my home. And so I've been with somebody and I've been around people for seven months solid. I've never been alone. And I finally got my house the beginning of this month. And this past week, I spent a lot of time alone. And he's trying so hard to bring all the same things back into my life. And I'm like, no. So I literally just walk around my house rebuking him and rebuking and asking God to bless the house, my, my mind, my soul, cleanse it, and praying over my dreams and everything else because he's sneaky. And he's watched your, he's watched our patterns. And, you know, he repeats because he's not creative. He does everything over and over again. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad you're taking authority over that thing. Yeah. It's not, it's not back. It's a lot of, it's the lies of the enemy that you're getting rid of. I think you said TR, "The greater is He that is in you than he is in the world." Amen. And also, Lori, I liked how you brought in, um, Mark 16, you know, and I actually found a new way to. Bring two apps side by side on my iPad. Like, and so I screenshotted that beside that, you know, and it says, "He said to them, 'Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe in my name: they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.'" Woo! Yeah. Anybody else have any questions for Lori? For comments? Comments? Questions? Yeah, you're on screen. Haha. All right, so the next one is Jenna. You ready? All right, I'm here. So you got Acts, uh, 20. Yes, ma'am. Woohoo! So I don't know if there's a great way to do this. I guess, um, no, just do it. Just wrote some questions down as I was reading through this. Um, so in the first section, it talks about Paul going to Macedonia and Greece, and really what I got out of there, starting with verse two, is, um, you know, he encouraged. It just says, "While there, he encouraged the believers in all the towns he passed through." So he was traveling, and he was making sure that he was stopping in every place and encouraging them of God's truth. It was like he just, he wasn't skipping a beat. He wasn't trying to miss one single thing. Um, I guess my question with that is, you know, are we doing that? Are we being conscious of that when we're places? Yesterday, we went out for lunch after church, and I did. God gave me a word, um, for somebody, but, and I talked to that person, but I looked around the room and I thought, "The same thing. You know, every one of these people was important to the Lord. Every one of them matters. He created every one of them, and he knows things that we'll never know, and they, they might not know about themselves." And I, I don't know what I said in my head, but it was like, just a simple prayer, right? For, for them, for the whole room, because I thought, "I'm not going to, unless he gives me some, I'm not going to talk to every person in here." Um, but, you know, just the dedication that he wanted to make sure that he wasn't missing anything. Um, they talk about in verse four, "Several men traveling with him," but they don't really say, unless I'm missing something, they don't really say much about what they're doing or what they say. They're traveling with him. Um, so it goes on into, see, verses 7 through 12, and his final visit to Troas. And in there, I found this very interesting. Um, so he, this is going to be his last night there, and so he's, he basically stays up, and he's just talking to them. It says in verse, on says, "On the first day of the week, we gathered with the local believers to share in the Lord's Supper. Paul was preaching to them, and since he was leaving the next day, he kept talking until midnight." So there again, you know, it's like he doesn't want to make sure that they get it and spend as much time with them as he can. Um, maybe even sacrificing his own sleep. It doesn't say how tired he is or how, you know, traveling takes a lot out of us, and we have much more modern-day ways of traveling. So I know I'm tired after some plane rides and stuff. Um, but the part that was so interesting to me is, so they talk about while he's speaking, it says in verse nine that there was a young man, I don't know how to pronounce his name, but he was sitting on a window sill, and he became very drowsy, and it says, "Finally, he fell sound asleep and dropped three stories to his death below." And it says, "Paul went down in verse 10, Paul went down, bent over him, and took him into his arms and says, 'Don't worry,' he said, 'He's alive. He's alive.'" And so I wrote a question on here that just said, "Would you be able to witness death, quote unquote, and then trust the word of the preacher that he's alive and go back up, tears, and share in the Lord's supper and just eat together?" And then it says, "He continued talking to them until dawn when he left." And I thought, well, the first thing I thought was like, wow, okay, there's like, I don't know, I don't know if I could do that. I mean, I've seen death, and yeah, I never at that recognize and know Jesus to the point of trying to resurrect somebody. Um, but the second thing that came to me later on, after I wrote another question and got through this, was, "Was that young person so overtaken by the Spirit with what he was hearing through Paul that he just fell out? He wasn't dead, like that. He just, he fell out." And Trina is saying, "Yes, yes, yes." So see, he gave it to me on the second, second round there as I was reading through it again. I'm like, "Wait a second here. There's no," and everybody just trusted him, went back up, had their food, um, and then later, you know, they take the young man home, and everyone's greatly relieved. So when they say greatly relieved, it makes me figure that in their humanness, they're like, you know, what happened? But they trust him and they go with him and follow him, um, which is what we should be doing. And sometimes that's hard if we don't get out of our flesh or if we don't get out of our head. Um, so then you go on to Paul meets the Ephesian elders, and that's verses 13 through, an idea way down there. See, that's the rest of it. I have a few more questions as I went through this part. So he meets with them, and he's, um, sorry, I'm trying to scroll through this one on my phone and then look at the, look up here and talk, and I have notes too. So when he meets with them, um, you know, he's knowing that he's not coming back, so he's, he's wanting to make sure, once again, there's that dedication to the Lord's, you know, preaching his good news, and then the dedication to the believers and the people, knowing that he doesn't want to miss anything. Um, and he's trying to get to Jerusalem because he wants to be there in time for the Festival of Pentecost. So it says that, um, he sent a message to the elders to meet him, and when they met with him, he explains to them that, "From the first day I set foot in the province of Asia, it says, 'Until now, I have done the Lord's work humbly and with many tears. I have endured the trials that came to me from the thoughts of the Jews.'" Then he goes down in verse 20 to say, "I never shrink back from telling you what you needed to hear, either publicly or in your homes." And, um, this one, this one really got me. "I have had one message for Jews and Greeks alike: the necessity of repenting from sin and turning to God and of having faith in our Lord Jesus." So I wrote, "Could you share the message to all people and not shrink back in the message as a whole, based on the fact that maybe people you know or don't know have different denominational or, you know, just different religious backgrounds, or at this point, maybe they're walking and they're not even believers, and that standing in a way that's, you know, keeping them, or maybe they're believers and there's still things that they don't know?" Because I look back when I started my journey with the Lord, and there was things that now I'm like, "Wow, there was some pretty yucky stuff that he hadn't pulled off me yet, and that I didn't realize was still there." Um, and I would agree with Summer. I'm, I'm pretty interested in deliverance and healing because I've gone through a lot of things with those too, and I'm still learning, working progress. But it is very important. It's very important. And I do think that a lot of times, we miss the mark in that part. And thankfully, God brought me to a church early in my faith that they, they actively taught those classes and they actively did that with people. Um, but he makes that very clear in here how he did everything that he felt the Lord was calling him to do, and he was very adamant about standing firm in that, and he wanted to make sure that they got it. He doesn't want them to miss the mark. But he also, um, gives him, he gives a boundary. I feel like right here, and in verse 22, he says, "Now I am bound by the Spirit to go to Jerusalem. I don't know what awaits me, except that the Holy Spirit tells me in city after city that jail and suffering lie ahead." But my life, verse 24, "But my life is worth nothing to me unless I use it for finishing the work assigned me by the Lord Jesus, the work of telling others the good news." That makes you want to cry about the wonderful grace of God. Before I knew that my career was coming to a screeching halt, somebody said one time that I hope this doesn't sound like it's off task until I say it, um, that what we did in our job was put Band-Aids on. And I was so mad and I was so bad, um, got at them, just at what was said. And as the Lord worked in me, and he still is, but as he worked in me, it was like, "That is not what I signed up for." And at a moment's notice, everything could have been gone. And that is not what I signed up for to put they on gave wounds. So something deeper inside of me always knew that there was more, but I didn't understand it about myself. And I didn't get like this until just now speaking it to you guys. I wasn't, I was reading it, I was going through, but this is how it works too. You always is doing something to pull layers off and give us more and understand it better. But he put a boundary up there, and I wasn't good at that either, knowing how to put boundaries. And I've not heard a lot because of it. But he's giving them the responsibility now to have to take their walk and stand firm for themselves with everything he taught them. And also, the other thing that I wrote is, um, "Are you able to give it all up for God, no matter the pain? The Holy Spirit might prepare you for. He knows bad things are coming, but he doesn't know what they are." But he, he not going to stop. What's the end goal? What's the end goal? And I can, I can tell you, Summer, it resonates with me because I feel like I'm messing it up a lot over here. And this transition that I've gone through has been really hard. And just to be brutally honest with everyone tonight, I wasn't very prepared. I've been really sick for months. And I just, I don't know, even to the point of like, "Maybe I should just stop doing this because it's just too much." My little boy's having a hard time. My son, you know, my husband's working. And then I get on class, and it's like, even if I don't have it all together, I feel the grace over the whole class, and everybody just gets together and raves it. And I'm like, "That's why." Because days like last week, and days like yesterday, when he gives me words, and I see people, and then somebody texts me today, the same young lady, cuz we exchanged numbers, and she thanks me and says, "He just gave me that reminder through you that he hears my prayers." It's not me, it's Him. And so when I feel like I'm screwing it all up at home, it's like, "He's still telling me, but you have things to do even here." Um, and that actually was the stuff I was the most afraid of when I did my job because I was by myself. And so honestly, in a way, I didn't worry so much about me. I used to worry about what it would be like for other people in my family that I love so much if something happened to me, but not so much about me. And then I was always felt like if I didn't have a family, I'd miss the mark. And how I do. And I tell you what, he goes after me with it and makes me want to believe that I don't, I don't deserve for the Lord to have given it to me, and that I don't know how to do it. So I had no idea this is going to affect me like this. That's not going to say sorry. But well, no, don't be sorry. This God loves you so much, Jenna. And He's bringing people alongside of you to help encourage you. You know, we can all go back to being, you know, same old, same and just walk like an everyday Christian and be happy and content. But if we have no opposition in our life, are we really walking where God is calling us? You know, and I really feel like, and fine, before, yeah, this school, I don't think I was. It might have seemed easier, and maybe I felt like I looked better and whatever else, but there was a lot of, there was a lot of sin, there was a lot of pain there, there was a lot of mess. Well, you know, now I hear him say, "Well, what do you think the process is when I'm peeling mess off of you? You're not going to look so good sometimes between parts." I mean, you know, yeah. Um, yeah, so to get back to this, because it does go with what I said, wow, I really, I had no idea he was going to be doing all this because I read over this several times, was right stuff, but yeah, there's the boundary. And he just says, and then he tells them flat out, "And now I know that none of you to whom I have preached the kingdom will ever see me again. I declare today that I have been faithful. If anyone suffers eternal death, it's not my fault, for I didn't shrink from declaring all that God wants you to know." So then he goes on to tell them to guard themselves and to guard God's people. And he gives them many more, you know, commands. But one of the other most important things is he says in verse 29, "I know that false teachers, like vicious wolves, will come in among you after I leave, not sparing the flock. Even some men from your own group will rise up and distort the truth in order to draw a following." And he tells them to watch out. Mhm. And, uh, that hits home too, because somebody who claimed that they were a man of God, really, you know, really, really did some damage with me. And that's, that's not a leadership position that you want to take. Lolly. And I do know the Father's voice, even when I have my own struggles, because over things that man told me to do, I heard the Father very clearly tell me something with that situation. And I have abided in that. Um, and he's contended with me in my own hurt. But, um, yeah, this is very. So he tells them, you know, he entrusts you, and now I entrust you to God and the message of his grace, that's able to build you up and give you an inheritance with all those he has set apart for himself. So not only is he giving them a boundary with him, him, and telling them, "This is what's going to happen," he's also now, it's like he's handing them back over to the Father and saying, "You know, this part of my job is complete." That's how I see it. And I, and God, this is what God says he's going to do. So I'm going to hand you back to Him. He just had me be the messenger and do this for this amount of time. Yeah. I don't know. I have like a p. I feel like I'm going through some weird sort of retirement all over again, and then lifting back up of like, "Your new assignment's here. It's waiting. It's coming." And some of it's already happening, but you got to fully let, let go of that over there. Yeah. Um, yeah, we're, we're pretty much wrapping up here, but maybe we can try to call you tomorrow, Jenna, and pray with you. We can pray for you now, but I just want to finish this. Um, I wanted to tell you here, hold on. In the scripture in 11, it says that when they went upstairs again, they broke the bread and ate, and after talking until daybreak, he left. Like, I really feel like as we really, um, understand who we are in Christ, and we have this joy of Him, I can talk forever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever. And I make people tired that are around me. I do. Like, I could stay up till the wee hours of the morning, have even one or two hours of sleep, and go, you know, and, and, you know, yeah, at some point, you do need some sleep. But I, I feel like, like the more we really get into His Spirit, and we get so excited, like this morning, I, I wish I could have preached this this morning. I should have did a message this morning because, man, it was just flowing and it was bubbling. I just woke up. Like, and everyone's like, "Do you like, need like an hour?" And I'm like, "Uh, no, I don't even need a minute. I'm just jump out of bed." Because a lot of times, I spend time with God in the first half hour of my morning. Like, I will set my alarm if I can, and then spend time with God. And I just, I, I get filled up before I even crawl out of bed, you know? And I, I'm hearing God, and I'm like, "Come on, like, this is like in the room was like, um, I need coffee. Coffee? No, let's get Jesus. Let's get more of Jesus." You know? But, um, you know, and, and down in, um, I just love what it says about Paul. This kind of goes along with the, the last Acts, you know, "Keep your, keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the Church of God, which he bought with his own blood. I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock." Like, he's given warning. He's given heed. He, you know, to make sure that we're filled with the Holy Spirit. Even after this class is done, you know, we pray that we give you enough, um, foundation to stay on the rock, you know, and, and to keep your eyes on, on the prize, you know? Go after wholeness. Wholeness, wholeness, wholeness. Like, some people don't preach it enough, and they think that it should be done when we spend time in the presence. Get in the presence. When you spend time in the presence, the wholeness will come. Do the Craig Miller stuff. Do you know we have Voice Ministries that we're connected with? You know, Bear Creek. There's so many different ministries. Um, we're, you know, we're hoping to be able to do some traveling here in April and May. Um, maybe we can come through your area. Um, I know we're coming through Arkansas, Mississippi, Georgia, Texas. Yeah, we'll be talking to you, Summer. Yeah. Um, yay. Yes, I need, I need some ministry time so bad, y'all. Yeah, well, we'll be there. And, um, you know, we could slide up to maybe, um, Illinois, you know, and hang out. But, um, I just want to encourage you, it's never going to be easy, and it was never meant to be easy. And Paul, even says in here, he even says that, where's that? "I only know that in every city the Holy Spirit warns me that prison and hardships are facing me." Like, if that doesn't scare somebody, nothing will. You know, and he's running after God. He's doing God's work. And he's, he's promoting and proclaiming, and, and even, you know, helping people to get completely undone in the Holy Spirit. And the enemy is not happy, and he's never going to be happy until we get him under our feet and we get rid of those lies. And, you know, I've been working on a lot this last couple weeks, just keep letting it bubble up and deal with it, deal with it, deal with it. Every time someone pokes, don't blame. Go back and ask God, "What is causing it? And how can I, um, how can I get rid of the buttons that are being pushed? How can I be a different person? How can I, you know, not respond in the same old way?" And that's, you know, that's you. I wish we had more than 12 weeks. Um, we have some ideas of some things to do in the future. And I do need to call you guys and talk to you this week and next week and see if you're interested in joining us. Um, you know, and, and I'll let you know what that looks like because I don't think we really know what it looks like yet. But, hey, it, it is late, and I don't want to keep any longer. And next, next week, we'll do, we'll try to do a couple of the Acts also. So, you know, who you are. And, uh, Joanne got saved by the bell. So, we love you guys, and we'll talk to you next week. And thank you so much. You did amazing. Like, um, question Trina that I had, just to leave everybody with the last one was, "Are you able to share what God has given to you through testimony and word and give whatever you can to help others?" And that goes with that last section because, yeah, he, he quotes Jesus saying, "It is more blessed to give than to receive." Amen. So, you know, are we able to do that? You know, are we willing to do that? No matter what the cost, no matter it feels embarrassing, or we're the only one doing it different. And we remember that and give it up if we feel like we can't tell the story. But we need to tell the story. Someone needs to hear it. Yep. I love it. You did a great job. Thank you so much. And good night, everybody. Love you all. Bye-bye.