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[music] [music] [music] Who are the archons? Greek archon, ruler. The archons are the numerous assistants of the demiurge. They are usually responsible for the creation of the human body. Planetary archons are also thought to rule over the various spheres through which the soul may ascend. The archons have a negative [music] role restraining the spiritual impulses of humanity and directing human affairs for the demiurge, being responsible for the flood, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the crucifixion of Jesus. From a dictionary of Gnosticism by Andrew Phillip [music] Smith. More on how to defeat the archons. A Yonite Gnostic. [music] [music] >> [music] >> Happy heresies and welcome to the desert of the real. Welcome to this special live stream of AM Bite for members, Patreons and so forth on YouTube or AB Prime. I hope everybody is doing okay. Again, for members, you get the whole heretical enchilada. And for everybody else, you'll get a part of the show because again, got to drum up uh drum up the promotion. And plus, sometimes we put some of the more controversial stuff behind the paywall because uh this is the era of censorship and this is the era where AI will just take most of your stuff and replicate it. So, welcome everybody here who is joining me. And again, like my stream I did on my medical updates, I am sitting outside on the porch uh taking advantage of a beautiful summer evening. The heat wave has left the Midwest and I want to enjoy the outdoors as much as possible and hang out with a couple of friends and also the friends who may be in the chat or on Patreon and we'll certainly take your questions. As always, my name is Miguel Connor and I am so delighted to see you. And today on this uh special stream, it is always a pleasure to have my friend. I did mention he was a friend but uh he is certainly a friend and somebody who's really helped me out in my spiritual journey and that is Kevin Ken and he will be discussing uh a book that uh he just released which I read which was pretty powerful and there and that is autobiography of an experiencer a nuclear engineer's account of childhood trauma adult autism aliens UFOs and pure contentment. Kevin, thank you very much for once again coming to the virtual Alexandria.
>> Well, Miguel, it's uh you know how people are all friendly in the beginning and and and such but you've really earned it. You've got a special place here, you two guys. You the community and bite. It's the only place like it and uh it's really special. So, thank you for being here for us all. It is uh yeah it is an honor and a pleasure and yes the community is amazing the people are intelligent they are great seekers and I'm so proud that they are with us on this journey as we try to find who we are and what reality is not or as Philip K. Dick said, what his two questions were: what it is to be human and what is reality? And with us, it's always a pleasure to have the Moondog Vance. Vance, how are you doing?
>> Oh, a little weary tonight, but uh up for the conversation and uh learning more about Kevin and what his book has to say about the various topics. Uh it's funny because um a relative of ours is dealing with uh trauma and so forth. Um go into detail. Um but um it's uh timely, timely time and of course, you know, my in my own family, um my my son has undergone trauma because of the special education system >> and is a very bright autistic guy that uh just got run rough shot over by the system and he's still dealing with it. >> So [snorts] >> Kevin can relate.
>> Yeah, >> that's his life story. Yeah, I'm glad homeschooling. I think my son Sebastian is on the spectrum. So happy he's homeschooled. He just we let him have his own rituals and life and what he does and never judge him. We just stand back and he'll figure it out. So um [clears throat] yeah, >> last two years of high school um basically wasn't exactly homeschooled, but it was a schooling at home through a remote high school, which is, you know, with his mother as the learning coach. And that worked out a lot better except for his mother. His mother [laughter] got driven crazy. But >> he took a hit. >> Yeah. Somebody's got to do it. Yeah. We all got to take a hit against the system. That's what parents do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, >> all right. >> Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, then yeah, definitely read his book. Uh he's got some amazing advice. Sometimes one or two little sentences. I love books like that, Kevin, where it seems so dark and then those one or two little sentences you go, "Ah, this it it all makes sense. It all makes it worth it." Very few people do that and do that. Well, you see that, you know? So, um obviously Philip K. Dick would be one of those dark dark and then he hits you with some beautiful two or three sentences and you're like, "All right, all right. It's worth it. I'm here with my brothers and sisters. We'll we'll stand together. We're not alone." So, so Kevin, yeah, I really wanted to start uh there's all the sort of cool sensationalistic stuff I had of all these beings you've met, but and a lot of you've a lot in the book you've told me, a lot you have not. I was surprised by some of the things, some of the entities that you befriended in your journey. But what struck me is amazing is that you again were born, you could hear in the womb. You mentioned that in one show, I think one of our first shows, and >> it was very muffled, trust me. And I didn't understand English, trust me. I just knew that my happy home was getting thrown around somehow. I didn't know what was out there quite. >> But how did Okay, so how did you do it? Because your childhood is probably something that the Sethians would be clapping and saying, "See, see, see, because you were born into this world pretty much unwanted." I mean, we all as children need our parent, our mother and father archetype. We need role models. We we're looking for protection. I mean, that's what we are as children to be able to form. And you didn't have that. I mean, you were brought into this world with uh I can't even describe your mother who obviously, as you said, had her own demons and your stepfather and the horrible Christian schools. How were you able to uh where did you find solace for the audience?
>> Yeah. Um, you know, I try to write so that everybody can get something from it. You know, not to put on any stupid pretentions because I don't think I'm pretentious. But in this case, I'm going to sound a little pretentious because um I just didn't need comforting. It seemed like I knew where things were at in my body just automatically. Like I had a huge filing cabinet. It was all right there. And uh there wasn't nothing weren't nothing in the world that could really unseat me from who I was. And I, you know, I can't I'm not going to make any ridiculous claims about that. Now, just to to uh put it out there for the folks who are more sciency and less mystical or Gnostic, there has been research done that autistics can remember much farther back, possibly even in the womb because they get this early brain development. So, if you want a sciency explanation, that might be all it was, right? Not making any ridiculous claims. But then uh, you know, actually the book makes a big point about my being what I call bilingual, you know, mystic and science, you know, autistic and trying to learn human ways, you know, I mean, regular uh non-autistic ways. So, it's the only way I kept my sanity, such as it is, is that um if you go out the deep end either with science or mysticism, um that's not really balanced. You know, it's like, let's say you're a uh a non-dualist, you know, and you say that only the spiritual is real and you know, the material world is Maya, delusion, or like Gnostic, some think it's evil. Even the ones who don't think it's evil, they think it's at best neutral, you know, it's at least neutral, right?
>> I like that.
>> Yeah, it's kind of hard to argue that one. There's a lot of in appearance of the world. But I, you know, it's good to have both perspectives, you know. So if you can switch back and forth between the mystical and the scientific, both, then, you know, they won't come find you with an "I love me" jacket nearly so rapidly because you can talk the language of everyone around you. Even better, you know, like a scientist and you can talk some science. So, it shows that you're considering your situation and not just taking what some random random person says or culture or family if you've got a like I had a bad family. So, I just ignored anything they ever tried to teach me because they were wrong. But I knew this. I knew they were wrong. They didn't believe in kindness. They didn't believe in self-restraint. They didn't care about animals. They didn't care about children. They had so many things messed up with them. I just knew innately, without a doubt, without a thought, they were just all wrong. And uh so I, as I believe I say in the book, I was always kind of like half a step back from my life events. Now, a lot of psychiatrist types would say, "Well, you were dissociating and that's mental illness." No. I call it metacognition. I call it I call it an advanced thing anyone can learn to do. You just take a little step back and go, hey, what's going on in this life? You know, my life, your life, whatever life. And when you got a little bit of distance on it, you can see things a little more clearly. I don't call that dissociation. I call that being wise. I think it's a great thing to learn how to do.
>> But what about uh feeling loved, feeling valued? How did you get that? Cuz you know, no matter how violent or wacko my parents got because of their issues, bipolarism, alcoholism, all that stuff, no matter how hard they hit me and all that, I knew intrinsically that they were they they loved me. And that was um well, it was confusing, I must admit. But at least it's something that carried me later on.
>> Yeah, I didn't have any of that. >> Uh, none of it. Because, you know, my mother said, "I never wanted you. I wanted a little girl so I could dress her up in pretty little dresses." That's what she always said. "You weren't wanted. You were a mistake. You were an accident." And my stepfather was much worse than that. He was always looking at the gun, you know. So, I could read between the lines with that. So, no, I didn't experience love in any real meaningful sense until I met my my third wife, Mary. And uh I've been with her for 11 years. So, I first uh first experienced love for the first time in my life about when I was 55.
>> Wow.
>> Did you feel you like you missed it? I mean, were you trying to find it before that?
>> Well, I enjoy kindness and I enjoy cuddling and I enjoy friendship. So, those are all parts of love, right? I Yeah, absolutely. I always wanted it. But, you know, it's like my grandmother used to say, and people in hell want ice water. I mean, if it's not available, it's not available. You have to do the best you can with what you got. That's kind of how life works, right? So early on I learned if nobody would love me then I would need to love myself. So it's all I had available.
>> Yeah. And but you always talk you talk about a gold light too.
>> Yeah. I had that for I had that for much of my youth and childhood. And uh well, I I don't quite see it that way these days so much, but I do go into bits of what people might call um divine ecstasy. It happens pretty frequently, really. So no, there's love out there.
>> And what is an experiencer? That's sort of it's sort of a kind of a new word at least for me.
>> Ah, well, I see you haven't been hanging out with UFO crazies very much.
>> Right. [laughter]
>> That's usually where >> I got my own crazies right here. I I could >> Right. And there's other kinds of you know, experiencers like say, you you're out in the woods and you come across Bigfoot. Well, that's also known as an experiencer by quite a few people. Or, you know, you see ghosts or fairies, any of these things, you know, you're an experiencer.
>> So, but you mostly hear it in ufology. That means something drastic, something amazing, something paradigm shifting, something uh ontology breaking, just shakes you from head to foot generally. And then you've had an experience.
>> Yeah, that is certainly uh well, I guess it's a little different than a mystic. I guess it uh it works. It works for sure. And um
>> there's mystical experiencers, too. there. You know, if if you, you know, had the the Monad channel into you, the oneness of being and so forth, that's >> that person would be considered an experiencer also.
>> True enough. And I have that sort of thing all the time.
>> Yeah.
>> And on a little side note, uh I think the uh Stephen Spielberg's uh disclosure day has come and gone. It was supposed to be some big paradigm changer, but it's kind of fallen off the consciousness of culture. It's going to lose money. What did you get a chance to see the movie or again, like like I told you, I don't know if it was in Mike's um thread on Facebook, but I was like Spielberg hasn't made a relevant movie since Minority Report and look at the source material he had. But, you know, one of the He's done incredible movies, but uh he's not going to change the culture and [clears throat] um this movie certainly wasn't going to do it. I haven't seen it, though.
>> Yeah, I I hadn't planned on seeing it. I haven't seen it. Uh feels kind of weird, but I was talking about the movie with Jo. I mean, he was part of Close Encounters and >> Oh, yeah. He helped map the, you know, Mars and invent the internet. that guy. I talked to so many people, they don't know who he is. I mean, good gravy. It's like not knowing who George Washington was almost.
>> But yeah, I I knew enough about the movie that um it presents things in a culturally packaged way. It was obvious what layers of the UFO disinformation he was drawing from. So, I just didn't want to see it.
>> Multiple layers of it.
>> He [clears throat] said he had to go see it. I I haven't talked to him since since he's seen it.
>> Oh, okay.
>> It's not like we're BFFs. I just occasionally talk to him. He investigated my 2013 UFO case. So, just we stay in touch a little bit here and there.
>> Yeah. And I also [clears throat] found interesting about your your book is like you said you're going in this ecstatic state. I'm like, oh my god, Kevin, through his life, through the challenges of growing up and all that, your nuclear engineer, then you went into the the IT world and all that. I was like, oh, he was always a mystic, but very much like others, you had periods where not much was happening. You were just a normal guy, right?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, it was always there in the background, you know. Um, but I made a deal with myself that I've noticed. See, I always choose for stability if possible. Right.
>> Right.
>> I've seen so many people, they go cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs and then they're gone. They're down a rabbit hole and they never leave. They move in with the bunnies, you know? They they order Nagahide down there and stay there. >> And I didn't want to be that kind of person. So there's a practice from India I always found rather admirable. You know, if you can't just be like a monk and, you know, be away from everything and follow your heart, there's the way of the householder. That simply means live your normal life, make a contribution to normal ways, you know, probably be with a family, experience the whole human experience, and then when you know, when you're done working, which in my case was 63, I retired at 63. Then you follow your heart the rest of the distance. So all my life I always had one foot in the other world. Always, always, always. I mean, always. But for a lot of my intermediate years there, yeah, I kind of ignored it even when it was calling to me. And it it cost me. It cost me.
>> What do you mean? How did it cost you?
>> Well, it's kind of like the muse. You know, >> if the muse wants you to write a book, you're going to freak and write a book. >> Damn. >> Things like food, rest, going to the bathroom to urinate, those things are just optional to the muse. >> No, they don't care. >> They don't care. They just don't care at all. So, you can perhaps ignore the muse for a while or your inner calling. You can ignore it for a while, but then you pay for that.
>> Oh, yes. I can relate to that. I can [clears throat] definitely relate to that. So, it isn't that uh it isn't I'm not saying that like God's an sort of thing. I don't really talk about God much. It's Well, there's I could do an hour just talking about God sometime if you ever want me on. Seriously, it's quite a topic. Reality, what a concept. as uh Robin said, you know, >> but uh, you know, in platonics surrealism, which you know is my thing. Um, we're pure unbound awareness and we watch all the movies and there's a lot of movies that are kind of shitty.
>> Mhm.
>> And uh but we got to watch them because if we don't, we're cutting off and abetting a part of ourselves. So, we watch all the movies, the good ones and the bad ones. So, yeah, that's just how it was. There was a lot of rugged spots to my life. Over 50 years of it. Very rough.
>> Yeah, for sure. And for the audience, if you hear something in the background, people still have fireworks from the weekend and they're across the lake enjoying fireworks. Tis the season, I suppose.
>> Is the season indeed. I think uh you have all these great quotes. Uh this one is what you're again while you were kind of in the real world you were studying Kundalini for many years but u was it your teacher said Kundalini is the mother of deception and that and that Kundalini is consciousness itself.
>> Indeed.
>> He said that that line carried you throughout your lives.
>> Yeah, that really uh that was really important. You see in platonics realism I say a somewhat different phrase. Consciousness is the trickster. Including our regular consciousness is the trickster. We all find ourselves playing along with certain things because that's how the movie wants to go. So we ought to deceive ourselves in a way so that we can be here. I really truly to my deepest heart have the observation that there's one being and we're fragments of it here. And then when we die, we're we're not fragmented anymore because I wasn't fragmented when I died. It felt like what they It felt like what they describe as nirvana.
>> It's just freaking amazing >> what it was like to be whole.
>> Yeah. It's very similar to when you when Jung had his near-death experience. He was like, "Can't wait to get out of here." Because he Yeah. He felt the same thing. Just an incredible sense of oneness and peace and bliss. So
>> indeed
>> it was it was something else. [clears throat] And uh let's get to uh your encounters. You've talked about meeting Yaldabaoth or Yaldi Baldi or Yaldi Puppy. I always thought it was sort of a brief affair, but apparently it's something that you had to deal with. You had [laughter] to deal with the demiurge for many years. Still young, many many many many years. So I ran into the quote demiurge or you know, when you're talking about things like that, people get all hooked on a specific being from you know, history and legend and lore and well, if there's one giant puddle, then the boundaries and there is only one giant puddle as far as I've seen. All the things up above the puddle for a second, they're all part of the one thing. So it's I think it's pointless to say, "Oh, there's God. There's the devil. There's the demiurge. There's Sel. There's this. There's that."
>> No,
>> it's uh, you know, appearances, it's mass, it's personas. And uh, but yeah, I think in a very, you know, it was crazy. So here I was, 1980, and I had the the biggest encounter in 1981. I had the biggest encounter of my life and I won't mention exact names because I don't want his organization and his parent organization to come after me. Um, but yeah, this guy was doing some major bad juju in an auditorium before like five or 10,000 people. I don't know exactly how many it was like >> there wasn't a ticker tape saying how many were there, but there was a lot of people there. And I never read Philip K. Dick in 1981. I mean, I hadn't I don't even know. Oh, you know, Miguel, what year did he first put out like Valis? Any idea off top of your head?
>> Think they're blowing fireworks right? Well, he had his experiences obviously uh '74. So it was towards the the 70s or yeah, late 70s when Valis came out.
>> Right? Well, I'd never read it and there there was no such thing as AI back then. It didn't exist. But uh yeah, it was very difficult for me to admit that I was uh as a result of my clash with this individual who was summoning beings from elsewhere in the universe or other realms. Um, what I ran into was a vast living, seemingly mechanical, almost sort of life form. And uh, you know, Philip K. Dick would have said, "Wow, that's Valis." He would have in a second, which now we call AI, I believe. You know, so AI before AI. That's what I ran into. And uh only with this book, by the way, on the book, just so people don't think, "Oh, Kevin, you're trying to make money." No, I'm not. It's free. Okay? You just go to Amazon. It's $0. So, if you want to read about
>> Yeah, we can uh we can do the promos later, but okay, let's talk about this. Oh, let's talk about this being. Let's not go on any side quests.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, get the book if you want to. Sorry. Get the book if you want to read all the gruesome details, but I will say that after going a number of rounds with the the mad summoner, but I guess I'd have to call him. Uh, there were four people possessed. Four people possessed. Three humans and a parrot >> who was indeed named Polly.
>> Mhm.
>> So yeah, my uh my two roommates were possessed and the uh the golden power was with me and they were unpossessed, you know, both of them. Uh the one the one tried to commit suicide by jumping out the window when she was possessed. >> The other one said, "I have all power." He was obviously wigged out. And uh the fellow who said he had all power, um the parrot started telling us we were all going to hell. Somebody could say that somebody had spent days or weeks teaching the parrot how to cackle maniacally and tell people they're going to hell. I suppose that's possible. But let me tell you, that was one convincing parrot.
>> Yeah. [laughter]
>> Evangelical preacher.
>> Yeah. He had a beak experience, you know.
>> [laughter]
>> So yeah, the the funniest thing that happened with all that is uh my roommate was jealous or whatever that, you know, the gold power was with me and could unpossess people and he tried to unpossess the parrot and the parrot leapt up and bit him. I'm sorry, I it just was funny. I mean, he was doing the lesser and greater seal of Solomon type stuff, you know. I don't really know much about that that stuff. Uh, I'm not that kind of person, you know, but that's what he was trying making magical passes at the parrot and the parrot thought, "Hey, y bit him." But then, yeah, the parrot was unpossessed. The gold knight that was with me for so long, freed the parrot. But then, yeah, here's the here's the really embarrassing. Well, it's not embarrassing. It's just what it is, right? I felt kind of kickass. Yeah. Went to the big event and chased the guy out of town, stopped his summoning ritual. Yeah, you have to read the book. You have to read the book. And uh, you know, helped my uh two roommates and their parent become free. But I was for a moment proud of myself. How many 20-year-olds do this sort of thing? And the moment I was proud of myself, well, there was someone else in the room that hadn't been possessed, and it was then their turn. Who do you think got possessed? Vance, who do you think got possessed?
>> Uh, your girlfriend.
>> No, I didn't have a girlfriend. I didn't know what a girl was at the time. I didn't know which end was up on a girl then. I I had a very sheltered wife. No, me. Me. Oh, >> I became possessed for three days and it took every bit of will I had. At first, what it wanted to do was to have me kill my two roommates >> and I I couldn't control the motion of my body. I'd lost all control of my body. So just an act of supreme will um I didn't want to pray to anybody or anything. I knew that to be foolish, at least for me. So I just just became humble. I suppose that didn't hurt you.
>> So this is the demiurge that possessed you. You believe you think?
>> Yep. Yep. That's my observation. But I guess why why wasn't it some other entity? I mean, again, in your other books, you talk the the demiurge, Yah, the puppy has an important role in the universe and he's pretty powerful. He's pretty up there. He's got, you know, he's got clearance. He's got credentials. The the universe needs him. And then and in this book, you talk about how he took you to the beginning of time and was showing you how he made proteins and all that. I mean, we're talking a creator god. We still thought he was the he was there was no other god but him, >> right? >> So, why is somebody so powerful terrorizing a couple of, you know, 20-year-olds in their apartment?
>> I guess [laughter] did you guys have like a delicious lunch or dream substance or why? Well, actually, uh, Vance here is is on the money, really. But, uh, well, no, the snacking was the 10,000 people. They were all fed on, >> right? >> They were all fed on. But there's a point I'm always making. Remember I said we shouldn't get the boundaries too firm when it's all one being playing dress up, pretend, >> right? you know. So, was the entity that I encountered in 1981 quote the demiurge? Well, you might as well say the one. I mean, it's all it's all interconnected. So, um, no, it was a different facet. It was a different movie within the demiurge, so to speak. So probably I don't know, one or two layers from the purest because the pure state is then neutral, you know, just the workman function, you know. I I I'm in so much as I'm a Gnostic at all, I'm a neutral workman, not an evil entity person, you know, like some of the Gnostics were.
>> Real quick uh [clears throat] tell for the audience, what's the role of the demiurge in the universe?
>> Right, to carry out instruction so that matter and energy can be uh either there at all, which I don't actually agree with, or in this case, much more interesting and prone to be alive has various functions is how I've observed it. Um, though, you know, any form of life will have delusions of grandeur if you let it unless it learns better. And uh Yaldi Puppy really has some real. Never mind. Never mind. Talking to somebody there for a second. Yeah, I'm talking to myself. Okay, bring out the "I love me" jackets. Um, [clears throat] you know, when you've got so much power and so much presence, it's easy to pretend you're the only one or you're the main one, and it's just not true. You know, has a niche, has a job to perform, so to speak. A layer of intelligence that interacts with life is the more common thing I've noticed anyway. And that's the most important thing, you see. Um, there's any dozen different mystical subfields that talk about this sort of thing. I think I've mentioned this before, like a ritual magician might want to summon an elemental, you know, and they say, "But you must not corrupt the elemental because it goes bad." Don't feed your human fears and darkness into it, or it takes on it's imprinted with that attribute.
>> Right?
>> So, if your demiurge is evil, well, guess what? You've made him evil. And then you're saying, "I want to play with you. I want to play with you." You see, old [laughter] Odor Pablo's playing with people. And he'll play any kind of dress up you want to play. >> And if you want to imprint him as evil, he'll just have fun with that. He'll jump up on you and lick your face. Might feel like sandpaper to you. But that's the whole thing. When you've got a being that is not rooted like we are rooted because we have tendrils of light in us that root us and Yaldi doesn't have that.
>> We're the tendrils of light in the body of Yaldipop, in a manner of speaking. We're the tendrils. So if he wants to get to the goodies, he's got to do it through our imagination because that's generally how it flows through our imagination.
>> The goodies that our dream substance. Yes.
>> Catnip or >> catnip. You bet.
>> Well, or whatever dogs like. [laughter]
>> Yeah. Yeah. Anything.
>> I don't call them Yaldi cat. It'd be Yeah. Anything. Boy, dog will be anything. Yeah. [laughter]
>> Anything.
>> Cat >> Yeah, they will. I've seen it many times.
>> Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That is true. [clears throat] Yeah. What do you think, Vance, of uh of Yaldi Pup?
>> Oh, well, I think he's he's he's the force that keeps things moving. I in in in the material apparent material universe, you know, without without Yaldi, every there would be no separation. There would be no movies. There would be anything. He's the guy that splits everything up and divides it up and shuffles it around and makes, Yeah, quote unquote, interesting. That's the way I look at it.
>> Sure enough. Sure enough. So, not that I like it, but sometimes I like it, sometimes they don't. So, I'm going Well, he's saying that. So, he's working for the Monads. If we're making our movies, >> well, >> what is he doing?
>> He's not working for the Monad. He's like like he's like, "Hey, Monad, who am I going to screw up today?" Like in the book of Job, right? He's like, it's part of the the Monad. the Monad. Within the Monad, there is illusory separation in the sense that the Monad can never really be other than whole, but the Monad can pretend to can think about being not whole.
>> Right. Exactly.
>> Yeah. And when he thinks about that, here we are. You know, we're all the Monad thinking about not being whole. That's that's my understanding. The way I look at it, you could say that, you know, like in California, there's water shortages, water shortages a lot of places, and they put these constrictor valves and like faucets. So, that's kind of like Yoda Popup assists in the uh humbling of us to these movies, you know, because without embracing limitation, there is no consciousness. Um, that's the trickster proof of consciousness, chapter 7 in my UFO book. So, I'm not I'm not I'm not going to plug that book. I'm just saying that's where you get it from. It's in that book. The trickster proof. Basically, the the basic concept is that uh without limitation, you've got awareness but no consciousness. Awareness is the bedrock that consciousness comes from and it takes the limitation and the constrictions. It's kind of like pure light needs something to reflect off of, or you don't get colors.
>> Mhm.
>> So that's why you need all this limitation. And the pure light is hungry. It is. It's actually hungry. There's this bare little hunger in it. That's why there's something instead of nothing. When I was dead, I experienced it. Typically, when you're dead, it's such a happy thing, but then there's this little restlessness, this little itch you experience and you want to pretend that you're this or that or the other thing. Oh, let's make a universe today. You know, you get hungry for it, anxious for it. That's why something exists instead of nothing.
>> Yeah. Restlessness, kind of.
>> Yeah. Divine restlessness. So for you [clears throat] experienced Yaldi Yaldi Pup was with you for years.
>> Uh how did you eventually domesticate him?
>> Don't let him hear you say that.
>> So >> there's a difference of opinion about who's been domesticated. [laughter]
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> [clears throat]
>> Well, in the book I told this story where there was a fellow who used to break into Skinwalker Ranch. He was just obsessed with Skinwalker Ranch and he wrote like three or four books on it. He was never illegally there, you know, but he they didn't stop him. Now, eventually he made nice with the owners and they had him on an episode. So, >> but have you heard of the hitchhiker effect from Hitchhike um Skunker Ranch? You both know about that.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> It's this malevolent forest that follows you home from the ranch if you go there.
>> Yeah.
>> And you can like fly to the other end of the world. It'll follow you all the way home >> and affect you and other people, you know, materializations and telekinesis and all sorts of awful stuff. follows you home. So this gentleman and his daughter were being plagued by the hitchhiker effect. So he reached out to me because I was a known shaman at the time. I don't use that title anymore. Um, it's a long story why I don't. My grandmother was a medicine woman on the Rosebud Indian Reservation in South Dakota. So, I kind of legitimately could use the title, but since I have no formal connection to the tribe, you know, it's really I'm not going to culturally appropriate their stuff is I found out it's not nice to do. So, I don't claim to be a shaman, but uh so I gave it my best shot to help him and his daughter. And um, you know, I have no idea what happened, honestly. um they were supposed to reach back to me and let me know how things were going and they didn't. I mean, hey, maybe it worked, right? That's why they didn't come back or who knows. They're both fine now as far as I know. But um the next day all the electrical appliances in my house became possessed >> and they were screaming at me and I realized it was very similar to what it screamed at me in 1981. Mhm.
>> And uh I had been well I've been wrestling for maybe five years with a malevolent force before that ever happened. Um it it pretty much left me alone. You know, it's like, "Hey, check in later. I got to do this householder stuff to do first." And it let me get by with that. But it was an unresolved issue, you know. And uh so yeah, the microwave was screaming at me, the uh of course television, my wife and my uh PCs and cell phone all instantaneously. I suppose it could have been a computer hack screwing with my head, but boy, if they can hack my, you know, 1995 uh Spuds Mckenry microwave that came with the house, then Well, that's pretty damn talented, you know.
>> Yeah.
>> Didn't have any chips in it that I Well, maybe it had a little, but yeah.
>> So, and I was under a lot of attack and my wife heard it, too. So, I had my whole house screaming at me. And uh, you know, I wish I could tell you some exotic self-congratulatory story about how it all ended. Um, well, really, there came a point when I started communicating with what was doing it and I said, "I don't need this. I'm going to leave you. I've had enough of this. I've been playing with you my whole life." >> Not meaning I was doing evil or playing with the occult or anything. I never I've never wanted to play with the occult, you know, unless it's stuffed right in my face. I've just left it alone. I I don't go looking for trouble. Well, I look for trouble with the UFO, but I was so curious, >> you know.
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