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[Music] Megan, I think I have a bulletproof resume showing my defense of Israel both on campus and on social media. To to great, you know, let's just say mockery and scorn at times, where I, because yes, to great mockery and scorn, a bulletproof, no pun intended, support for the state of Israel. Almost as if suggesting that I'm good. "Love me, Israel. Don't hurt me. I'm a good soldier. I do everything you ask me to do." He flipped on the Jeffrey Epstein files. He was actually attempting to maneuver, if you will, in terms of his opinion regarding Israel, but didn't really do it. Maybe he had an attack of conscience. Who knows? But like I said, it's not really a question of whether he did enough. That's not what's in question here. I would like to think everybody understands that he did more than enough. But for Israel, it's never enough. You can't do enough because they're losing and they're dying, and their ideology will not survive no matter what they try. Even if he was just sacrificed for a greater cause, if you will. But to me, it just, it speaks to a greater issue here. How much are you willing to go, or how far are you willing to go to get money and to get power? And Charlie was willing to go very far.
San wants to know why would Israel kill him or why would our State Department kill him on behalf of Israel? It's pretty simple. False flag events happen all the time. They happen at home. They happen abroad. And they happen for many different reasons. If you feel that the political narrative is not working in your favor, the economic narrative is not working in your favor, you have to do something bold and aggressive to try to change that. Mdome is the answer. Charlie Kirk is going to live on. It's not a question of will he. He's been martyred. There's no question he's been martyred. But the question is why he has been martyred, because the cause that he has been pushing repeatedly, harder than, as well, I'm not going to say harder than David Pacman or Ben Shapiro, but pretty hard, right at the top of the list.
There is no civil war. Let me tell you all something. Very important. If there was any type of a civil war, the South would rise again. Because that's the part of the country that's armed. There's not going to be a civil war. I don't see that. And whatever that might look like. I mean, listen, do I think we're descending into chaos right now? Yeah, we are. But this is inevitable. Our country is broken. It isn't just broken because of Israel, but Israel is a big part of it. And his capitulation to them for his career. Oh my lord, did that play a big role. Cannot deny that that did not play a big role, because it did. I believe it, right? I I believe in the scriptural land rights given to Israel. I There is no such thing as scriptural land rights to Israel. There is no identity of where it existed. You're just spewing [ __ ] That's all you did. You did this for for for money and power. That's why you did this. And that's why you're dead. You're dead because you made a conscious decision to do this, to espouse this [ __ ]. I don't care how much money. I don't care how much power. It's not worth it. It's kind of like a lie in many ways. When you have the truth on your side, you don't have to remember what you say because it's the truth. When you lie, you have to continually think about what you're saying, and it becomes a lie after a lie after a lie. That's how it works. Can he keep up with every single thing that he says that is denigrating of the Palestinian people? Denigrating of this country? All of it. Is it possible? I haven't seen one. I haven't seen one yet.
Again, Charlie Kirk was living a very comfortable life. He had a lot of money. He had a lot of connections. He had the biggest guests. I went to his Turning Point USA event three years ago in Tampa. Put on quite a spread. I'll tell you that much. Those events, they are not cheap. Cost a lot of money. But I'll tell you, I had some really good conversations with a number of people that were there. We had disagreements on certain things, for sure. But I think a lot of people are just looking for meaning. And Charlie took advantage of a lot of that. Just like people in here know what it's like to be taken advantage of by the Democratic Party establishment. The same can be said for people that are just looking for meaning and a better life that were drawn to somebody like Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA. Those particular people were all very similar. We don't have healthcare. He never talked about that. We don't have universal education. He wouldn't push that. Not even trade schools. We don't have clean water or clean air. Wouldn't push that. What he did push was division and anger and Bible thumping. I would say for myself personally, I am much more on the libertarian side of politics, as much as I am populist, and I certainly have more left policies that I agree with than right. But I know a grifter when I see one. I can see them. I can smell them. I can feel them. And Charlie Kirk was a grifter. He was an extremely effective grifter. There's a lot of people who try to grift and they suck at it. In fact, most people suck at it, but he was good at it. No, actually, he was great at it. He did really well. And so, as I said, so much of what he pushed was culture war [ __ ]. I don't have time for that. I'm very libertarian. You just do what you got to do. Don't get in my way. I won't get in yours. And there were topics that he covered in which I agreed. I I agreed that there were certain things in terms of the culture war that was being pushed by the left that I couldn't stand. And the same thing is true on the right. I think that there were certain issues that got more overblown than not, and they did. But then you talk about it incessantly, forever, for for forever. Why? Because it pays. And then eventually you get to a certain level where you have certain access, and then you really have to be pushing a narrative heavy.
You guys can say all you want. You can you can scream it from now to the rooftops. I don't care. You're gonna hear this, or you can get lost. There is no shame on my end. I can sleep easy at night because I chose a career that doesn't involve me having to sacrifice my integrity or throw people under the bus for a buck. And he's done that. He did do that. And that will be a huge part of his legacy. And rightfully so, as it should be. Not denigrating, not celebrating his death, but you better 1,000% recognize who Charlie Kirk really was. He was not your friend. He was not trying to help you or anybody but himself. And he did it well. He made a lot of money. He had a lot of power. But he eventually stepped in the wrong pile of [ __ ]. Now, what that's about, I don't know. Maybe he didn't even step in a pile of [ __ ]. Maybe maybe the people who really felt that they needed to use him as a as a martyr, as a sacrifice, saw this as a necessary move. Not that he wasn't doing anything or that he changed his mind, that he all of a sudden got right on Israel and saw the light. No, he was doing exactly as he was expected to do. And by eliminating him, he becomes a martyr. And people rally and say, "Charlie was a great guy. He didn't deserve that. It must be Hamas. It must be Iran. It must be Qatar. That's why it happened. Israel's right. We have to continue fighting. Ukraine is right. We have to continue fighting." Am I wrong? I don't think so. Believe in fulfillment of prophecy. And again, I'm not a theologian, but I'm a Christian. My life was changed in Israel. The spiritual energy is so amazing there. I I want them to win. I've said that repeatedly. And however, Megan, you're hitting on something very potent and important. Now, let me first say, I don't want to judge an entire group because there's been many people in the peripheral world that have been very sweet, very kind, very nuanced. "Charlie, you know, you're with us. You don't have to agree all the time." However, and I and I will say this, the behavior by a lot, both privately and publicly, are pushing people like you and me away. Not like we're going to be pro-Hamas, not like we're going to, but we're like, honestly, the way you are treating me is so repulsive. I have text messages, Megan, calling me an anti-Semite. I am learning biblical Hebrew and writing a book on the Shabbat. I honor the Shabbat, literally the Jewish Sabbath. I visit Israel and fight for it. And there's another article out in the Times of Israel today. I could read it on air. I was just reading before I got on. "Charlie, what are you doing?" Like, why are you, what am I doing? I'm sorry. Like, let's just take a step back here. Like, I'm an American citizen. Yes. Okay. You're an American citizen. Were you talking about Israel bombing the churches in Gaza? Was that what you were talking about?
As I said earlier, it doesn't matter how much you capitulate, it's never enough, especially now that they're losing the narrative. Even Charlie Kirk is not immune from being sacrificed at the altar, if you will, of the state of Israel. He would have been better suited to not deal in these types of scenarios. He [ __ ] up. That's a big part of it. Even somebody like Charlie Kirk can feel the wrath of the Israel lobby because it's never enough. You can never do enough to satisfy a bloodthirsty, genocidal, psychopathic, insane ideology of which if we do not cut ties, and I mean quick, this country is heading for a very dangerous future. We're already there. I have been saying for the longest time, one of the surviving members of the USS Liberty will be our guest on the live stream tomorrow night. Bill Turney will join us. He's one of the few surviving members of that faithful day, the only maritime attack in US history in which we did not retaliate. So, we hope you'll join us tomorrow for that conversation. I want Israel to win. Yes, I'm a Christian, but like the some of the me and you saw you've seen how I've been treated, Megan, by some, not all, by some. No, it's very irritating. It's so unfair. They were coming after you after a Turning Point for, among other things that you had Dave Smith there. Dave Smith, is it allowed to criticize Israel? What? Both sides. The Israeli side was only though. No, you're not allowed to. It's even worse than that. Again, I just want to repeat for the fifth time. I love Israel. I want Israel to win. But why do you feel the need to continue saying that? Why did you feel the need to continue saying that? I want to make very clear to everyone, I love Israel. Charlie, why would you feel the need to have said that? Why? What was the reason? Did you have an AP pack handler? Did you have somebody looking over your shoulder 24/7?
Guys, as of right now, I believe we have we have just under 600 people in the live stream. I believe as of this moment we have, let's see how many people are currently here. Forgive me taking a little time just to check on this. It looks like right now we have 344 people that have hit the like button. If you're enjoying this conversation and you would be so inclined to get this out there to more people, please make sure you smash that like button. It would be much appreciated. Charlie has more to say. My moral character is now being put into question, Megan. Not my decisions, not like, "Hey, are you doing this? Is it smart or is it dumb?" But no, I am a bad person if I do this. And it's I I could go, I mean, you saw it, Megan. It was trending on Twitter, thousands of tweets and text messages. And if I were to be charitable and generous, I will say the people that are attacking me are in a hyper-paranoid state because they're at war. And war tends to make things black and white. There is no war, Charlie. This is a genocide. Full-blown. You see what happens to Israel the second they encounter somebody who actually has what it takes to fight back. It really does go to show what it takes. This is a This was only filmed, I think, like a week ago. It almost sounds like a confession.
Now, there's some guy uh who I'm not too familiar with. His name is Harrison Smith, and he's saying that Charlie had apparently confided in people close to him that he was concerned that Israel was upset with him over God knows what. It sounds to me like right now he's kind of throwing it out there. I mean, Megan Kelly has a pretty large platform herself. And so it is entirely conceivable that he wants to send out that smoke signal of, "I'm a good foot soldier. Don't point your eye at me. I've done more than enough to push your message. What more do you want from me?" Well, as I said, with them, it's never enough. You can never, and I mean ever, do enough to satisfy their needs. And for anybody who thinks that there isn't a tie in here or doesn't think that there could be a tie in here, like I said, just look at how he was assassinated, and you're a hammer looking for a nail. So, I'm trying to be charitable, Megan. Literally, I'm trying to cut as much slack as I can, right? They go, "Okay, what would it be like if all of a sudden I'm starting to see a pattern of behavior similar to what my grandparents saw in 1930s Germany online? How would I behave?" So that's like my charitable kind of overcompensation spirit. At the same time, I'm like, but you're it's it's not defensible to be dumb, right? So, and it's offensive. It's offensive to those of us who have been out there defending them in in many instances against critics on our own side. And now you have a couple of comments like, well, what about this? Well, has it gone on too long? Like, is it time to wrap it up? And the thing about Epstein is just so bizarre. I don't know who he was an agent for. It might have been Israel or an asset, or he was an agent of Israel and his partner in crime. Her own father was not only an agent of the MSAD, but had a statesmanlike funeral performed for him in Israel. And they erected a statue for him for Robert Maxwell. The way Maxwell's father, for those who don't know that, I cannot emphasize enough that if we do not disintegrate and end this unholy alliance with this genocidal state that calls itself Israel, and fast, we're all [ __ ] They will drag us straight to hell. Period.
There's going to be a lot of conflicting stories that are going to come out about why Charlie was killed, who did it, how it was done without anybody knowing. I have seen enough to know that in times like this, no one like this gets killed unless there is a reason to do it. Not some random angry lib lefty, etc. For anybody that has seen how this was done, it was a professionally done precision shot to the neck, and he was dead within seconds. So, whoever did it was clearly up to snuff on how to get it done, and they did it from a distance. So, it was clearly done with a high-powered rifle. It was not done with a pistol. Why? Well, like I said, I've got a lot of thoughts. Sle is absolutely correct. Do not believe a single word from anything in corporate media telling you that they caught the killer. We know who this person is. This is lone gunman Oswald [ __ ] all over again. Whoever that person is was probably on a flight out of Salt Lake City into San Francisco and then across the Pacific Ocean and Lord knows where they are now. That's just my thought. I could be wrong, but I'd say that it's likely. And as I said, this is a this was a if you're trying to create chaos, if the goal is chaos, congratulations. You did it.
I don't know if there is anybody. I guys um I don't Colin, can we do uh are we able to do a a live live poll? I mean, we have over 600 people watching right now. Is there a way we could do a live poll right now? I don't know if Colin is here or not. I know he said he was going to be in and out of the stream. Uh, I want to know if you guys think that Charlie Kirk is the number one content creator that would cause the most controversy should he be assassinated? Is there anyone else that you think if it had happened to them would cause as much of a stir? And I'm not talking about it from one biased angle. I'm talking about just if if they I I'm seeing Shapiro in the chat. I would probably be inclined to agree. Alex I see Alex Jones. Uh, so so far Ben Shapiro, Alex Jones is what I'm seeing. Uh, yeah, Ben Ben Shapiro is taking a little sabbatical right now. Wouldn't surprise me in the least. Fuentes is also another guest. Uh, Estjara Fuentes, Adam, and there you go. Joe R. I don't know, Gadget. I don't know about Rogan at this point. I I don't know if I agree. Uh, but yeah, it is interesting. Might have been nobody. But we're allowed to speculate about that. It's like you can't go there when it comes to Israel.
Well, you and I believe that we're Americans and Americans first. Period. End of story. We are citizens of this nation. Okay. And Israel, we have funded, we have supported, and they're up against a sea of Islamic totalitarianism. And we should be cheering for them, right? Because is that so? Islamic totalitarianism. That's what you're going with. You know, I forget who it was that said it, but it's actually a really good quote. You know, we talk all the time about all of these issues that we supposedly have in the Middle East. And yet, we never had any enemies in the Middle East until the state of Israel was formed in 1948. In my opinion, it has and always will be about controlling rich natural resources. I have said and will continue to say that the biggest reason why October 7th happened is because they wanted that half a trillion worth of natural gas under Gaza soil and then in their haste would rebuild that Mediterranean coastline and make trillions more. It's the same thing in Ukraine. About 8 trillion worth of natural resources is in the western part of that country. We want to engulf Ukraine into NATO. Control the resources. Russia said no. And you have what you have. And who knows what's going to happen in the South China Sea. What's going to happen with Hong Kong? Who knows? It's going to be interesting. But these are how empires fail. They fail because we get too big for our bridges. Our attachment to the genocidal state of Israel is going to sink us into the abyss. We will speak on this at length tomorrow on our regular live stream, and it is 911, and there is a direct correlation here with that as well. Thank you, loco. Happy to have you here. And make sure you guys smash that like button if you haven't already. Let's finish this up because they're up against barbarians and and monsters, and we want them to win. However, here is Megan Kelly and Charlie Kirk combined, probably 30 million social media followers, like pretty, right? And you and I have been holding this down, and you you probably get the negative, "Oh, you're just shilling for Israel," whatever. I'm like, okay, I'm going to do what's right regardless of the feedback, right? But then all of a sudden, like I host a person that I de I moderate the debate of my view, right? And I give equal time to Josh Hammer. Equal time to a pro-Israel advocate, and my moral character is being put into question. And so I I just I think it's a hyper-paranoid, like we're just going to try to we're going to just stamp out everything type of practice. But it goes to the point where if, for example, if I I have less ability sometimes online to criticize the Israeli government about backlash than actual Israelis do, and that's really, really weird, isn't it, Megan?
Wrongheaded. Charlie Kirk spent a whirlwind career over the past decade doing whatever he felt was necessary on behalf of corporate special interests that could benefit his career. And he made one hell of a career. As I said, I would not have done it because I can't live with myself if I sell out my country. In many ways, I believe he did. But when he had this sort of, no pun intended, come to Jesus moment at the 11 o'clock hour, this was very recent with Megan Kelly, where he was asking himself, "Did I actually not do something right? Have I not been pro-Israel enough?" And I would say simply, you can never do enough. No matter how hard you cuck yourself for the genocidal state, you can't do enough. There is no amount of sacrifice that you can do to satisfy a bloodthirsty, genocidal nation that is Israel.
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