Kissa Sins full video podcast

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Oh, welcome to the podcast! After like 20 minutes of technical snafus, I'm so glad that we could make this happen. Yeah, I'm right. So everyone, this is Kissa. It's finally got her here. It has been, I've been harassing her for a while. It got to the point where I was like, I need to stop bothering her because she's gonna think I'm a [ __ ] psycho. The only thing that kept me going is that one, one of the times you responded, you were like, "I really want to do it." It was like, "Okay, she wants to do it." Otherwise, you'd just be like, "Sure, let me look at my schedule and never get back to you." But you sounded like you wanted to do it. They got excited and then they respond well. I get, we were just talking about like how she needs to get Gmail so she can use this button because that thing's amazing. But I know how busy you've been, so I really appreciate you coming. Well, now you're here and I'm never letting you go. Thank you. So, how have you been? It was so good. Yeah, I mean, it's been an incredible. I've really watched you like grow in this industry. It's been amazing. And a crazy, crazy year. And just like every year, it just kinda keeps getting bigger for you, doesn't it? Yeah, I feel like this year has been like my breakout year where I just like put my head down. I just been working like crazy. Yeah, ever since January. Are you still loving it, or are you starting to feel a little jaded? I am not jaded, but I do notice myself. I'm tired. Yeah, after a year, I'm happy to take, you know, a couple months off. Yeah. Are you planning on doing that? Well, I'm getting a boob job. Everybody. Right. You're right. I'll have to take, you know, six weeks, at least six weeks off for that. Right. I'm gonna take that time to, you know, blog. Return. So, since we're on the topic, um, what made you decide to get a boob job? Well, I have always wanted a boob job since I was like a little, like, I think I was 14 or 16 the first time I ever wanted them. And have been making consultations and appointments since I was 18 and canceling it and double-thinking it or whatever you call that. Right. Doublethink. I'm second-guessing myself. Yeah, they could guess you myself. But I just want, like, I just want them right. And I keep canceling and I keep regretting it. So I just want some jiggly jugs, you know? Yeah. Which, I'm assuming, like, it sounds like you've done a lot of research. A lot. So I'm assuming that you found a doctor that you're really happy with and you think is gonna do a good job. Yeah, like a really natural look. Yeah. Awesome. I just want a little more jigglies, like what they look like when they're pushed together. That's all. Right. Yeah. And we know there's been a lot of controversy about that. And I've watched, like, your Twitter and Instagram and people responding. And how is that? I mean, the reason why you didn't get it for a while, was it because of your fans, or was it just like because you were afraid of how it would turn out? Um, well, both. I really like my boobs. That's the problem. I think that like a lot of girls like hate their boobs and then they get a boob job. It's like this easy thing. But I really like them. Yeah. They're really wish they were bigger. Right. Yeah. Everyone's always mad at me on the internet. Like, I feel like I do something and they're mad. And then so I do what they want and then they're like mad again. Yeah. I can't make everybody happy, that's for sure. And especially, like, I think people feel a real kind of emotional connection to you because you're very interactive with your fans and you're very honest. You know, you used to write those really long, like, Instagram posts about your life and what you're going through. And I loved reading those. Like, I think I told you once, like, I really, I really love those. And I've seen took these beautiful photos and you just talked about like things in your life that you were grateful for and that, you know, just your kind of everyday, like, living in Hawaii and all that kind of stuff. And I think that you really made people feel like they knew you on a more personal level. And I think that's why your fans take things so personally, really take your decisions personally because they feel like they know you. Like, how could you know something? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But in the end, you got to do what makes you happy. Yeah. So, um, tell me a little, do you, are you ever gonna go back to writing? Like, they really, really want to. So I started a blog, my happy instead blog, right before I got really busy. Mhm. And I just been way too busy. Yeah. I'm hoping that, you know, for sure, you know, my boob job time off, I'm gonna get back into writing. So that was my, my real passion, you know? Yeah. That's what got me into porn. Yeah. I really want to get back into that. And I missed the fans. Like, those fans meant a lot more to me than, not more, I shouldn't say that, but they were great. The fans that read my writing, you know, and they really knew me, like you said. Yeah. Not the ones that are just like, "Show me boobs, like, open your eyes, like, we're gonna do a gang thing, you know?" Yeah. Those fans versus these fans. Yeah. You guys know they get mad at me. There's a different like. Well, 'cause yeah, they feel like a personal connection to you and they feel like, "I've been with you since, why won't you do what I say?" I know. We've never met in person, but I still feel some ownership over you. Yeah, exactly. And you were living in Hawaii for a while. Where are you living now? Are you living in LA now? Hey, living in LA. We were in Maui for two years and then realized that we were just spending all our money. Mhm. You're like, "Okay, let's go back and make money now while you can." So we went, moved back to Vegas. And then very quickly, I realized that I couldn't work the amount that I was working in Vegas and like commute. Yeah. I was like, "I'll just drive back and forth." Oh my god, it's like, yeah, not working. I was working 27, 28 days until this month. Mhm. Every day. So I had to move to LA. Yeah. And you like it here? I don't really. I mean, I grew up in LA and kind of halfway between LA and Canada. But the traffic really gets to me. Yeah. A lot. Yeah. But I do like it here. I live in Hollywood. I could have a cool view. I never leave. I just Postmates and Uber everywhere. Yeah. I was gonna say, I have my stylist lives in like West Hollywood in a very, very busy part of town. And she just Amazon's like everything. Yeah. It's a nightmare to get around. And that's it. It's a cool city, but especially there, it's like a nightmare to get around. It's a gridlock. Like, I sold my cars. Like, it's really the parking. Yes. She's just going to one thing to like go to the bank, get the circle. And yes, like, "Oh, I got it." Sell my car. Yeah. It's really bad. We should just get a bird scooter. Yeah. They're ever so nervous. A big be too stoned and like falling on. That's like my biggest nightmare. I don't use that. Oh, yeah. We actually, my boyfriend and I have this. There was like a hub that was right in front of our house at Bird scooters. And we like, "Oh yeah." And we decided one night we're gonna glue. I have, for some reason, I have this huge box of like flesh-colored dildos. Like, I have like 30 of them. I can't let go. Yeah. They're all flesh colors. I don't know why I have them. So one, gave me, I don't remember who, but for some reason, I have this massive box of dildos. We were gonna glue. Oh my god. You know what? Because I felt bad about like ruining the property, I chickened out. The idea was good, but then when it came down to it, I was like, "Could they prosecute me for like defacing their?" What if they were just suction cup dildos and he just like suction? Yes. That that would be safe. I know, right? I was gonna say, I sent some kind of scene coming on. Yeah. Tom. And speaking of YouTube, tell me about your YouTube video. Cuz you really built up like quite a big channel there. And Johnny too. Yeah, Johnny really took it over. Cuz I, again, like, I just got too busy to do anything. So Johnny really took out over YouTube. She's doing really well in on there. I think he only almost has a million subscribers now. Wow. So I'm in like some videos, but not really. Yeah. What, what is he posting? I don't know. A bunch of stuff. I know there was a, I got stuff, but doesn't like advice, like sex advice or mail points to. Oh, cool stuff like that. Oh, that's really cool. Yeah. It's a really cool channel. That's awesome. But you guys can't monetize that, huh? Cuz not most of it. No. We get, we're like, they hate us. I know. It's so. And they just changed those rules like, I don't know, a year ago or something like that. Yeah. I saw everything. Yeah. I jumped on the YouTube channel. We too late. But honestly, like, you really inspired me. The way that you like, yeah, you took your brand and like, you created this like YouTube channel and then you have your merchandise and then you have your website and you like did everything yourself. I'm like, "That's amazing. Like, I want to do that." And then I started a YouTube channel and I was like, "Yeah, no, I'm just like, I am too busy and I just don't think I'm that interesting." Like, I've done a couple of it, you're one thing blogs and I'm just like, "Dude, nobody wants to listen to me talk." They do that any day. That's the hard part about vlogging. You start it and you're like, "This is horrible." Like, yeah, all I've done is going to the bathroom today. Like, in the bathtub. Yeah. I had a whole vat though. Oh man, when I wasn't busy, I have, I was doing all kinds of stuff. Yes, they don't like a whole bath time segment where I would talk about like specific topics in the bath. But then I just get too busy. Yeah. That's what really spawned that new like level of busyness for you was you starting to work with other guys, right? Yeah, at the beginning of the year, I signed up. At the beginning of the year, I signed a 25-scene contract with Jules Jardin. Mhm. And so at first, during the first part of the year, I was doing my 25 scenes and I was under contract, you know, until July. So I did my 25 scenes and it was, I was, it was pretty like, you know, spread out. But then August 1st came and I could work for anyone and do anal for anyone and IR and all the things. So I just, just get like every day, just booked everyday, like double booking myself, like just flooding in the market. Wow. So, yes, since August, I just been completely non-stop. Have you been loving it? Or have I love? I love porn. Yeah. I'm never happier than when I'm on set. Like, I feed off everyone. I think that like some people don't like industry people, but I really like industry people. I think that everyone's very interesting and like warm and there's something like, I don't know, I just feel like this like we're like a little family. Yeah. Totally. And everyone's weird or that has issues, they're like really funny and like, yeah, I'm gonna call it. So I really like everyone. But I am getting tired. So yeah, like I said, the boob job time off is gonna be perfect. And then I get, I want to get right back into it. I was gonna say, like, once you've your new boobs, you're probably gonna get a whole, yeah, pather, booking requests. Yeah. And I'm already like planning these like two big projects after my boob jobs. So I'm excited. Can you talk about them? Are they? So there's secrets. Okay. Well, people will just have to follow you to find out what they are. When you can announce them, I'll come back. If you harass me for another year, it'll take me another year to get you back. So when was your first anal scene? Was it with Johnny, or was it with Jules? Well, actually, it was my first ever anal scene. It was actually a DP. Did it come out like that? But my first anal was a Johnny. What for Jules? But with Johnny as the penis. And I forget what happened where he couldn't shoot. But and I had the DP scheduled after that to be like, you know, my first anal and then my first EP, right? But we couldn't shoot the anal. I forget what, what the reason was. So we're making Marcus already booked for the DP. So we're like, [ __ ] it, let's just shoot the that first. So my first anal is a DP. Wow. And did you, did you practice for that? Not really. Like, is your ass pretty pliable? Like, my soul is crazy. Okay. So it can, it could handle it. Yeah. Yeah. They call me Gabe Zilla now. And my [ __ ] is small, but my butt just opens. Yeah. It's crazy. That's awesome. So you like anal? I love anal. Anal is like my favorite. Really. And then DP too. I love DPS. But anal better because I feel like in DPS, no one can really move. Yeah. Like every ask I'm an existing try to. Yeah. Rub things together. Yeah. That's true. And it depends on the guys too. Like, some guys have a better rhythm. Another day for sure. So it can become their piston action. Yeah. Yeah. I know, right? What's one of your favorite scenes that you've ever done? Oh, man. Um, I don't know. Every scene that I shoot, I'm like, "That was the best thing I've ever shot, ever." You know? And then the next time I shoot him, like, "That was the best thing ever." So it's just like, whatever your last one was, kind of. Yeah. I feel like I try to outdo myself every time. Why do you think that you love porn so much? Like, why do you think you feel so at home? I don't know the answer. That's a great question. I don't know. I think that I'm just like genuinely sexual. And I feel that that's restricted a lot of the times. And so I think when I'm like on a porn set or get to like [ __ ] and just like express myself and just like let all that go. It, I don't really, I don't really call what I do performing. When I'm like at the end of a scene, the director's like, "Oh, that was a great performance." Like, was it really performing? Like, I just like let myself go. Yeah. Got [ __ ] and like really tried to feel like your feelings and enjoy it as much as possible. So like, I really just have a great time. So it's a place where you really can express who you are. Yeah. You know, it's interesting. I had also here on this podcast a while ago. And one thing that she said really stuck with me. She said, "Porn is the perfect job for a small group of people and the worst job for most of the population." Yeah. And I think you're one of those small group people that this is like the perfect job for you. It's exactly what you want to do. You're in your element. It's something that you love. And it's not something that you're being. Yeah. And I think people like you, like you remind me of Angela White. Because she kind of said a lot of the same thing. Like, she's always been a very sexual person. And the porn industry has been the one place that she really felt that she can, you know, express. Right. So, yeah, I think it's girls like you that really, you're like an important asset to the industry because you prove that not, and look, there are some girls in the industry that shouldn't be doing this, that are doing it for the money or have been coerced by a boyfriend or whatever. All those stories are true. But there's also a bunch of girls who are really just sexual creatures and want to express themselves and are exhibitionists. And this really is the perfect job for them. Yeah. So, you know, if you guys do a lot of credit to us for like, I think changing people's mind about what it's like to be a woman in the industry. Yeah. I really totally agree. I definitely enjoy it. What are some of your? Speaking of Angela White, actually, you just had a scene with her for Bream. Oh, yeah. And it's just got a new [Laughter] incredible stuff. But for a new, for a new line about like dream girl castings. I forget what it's called. I don't know. We like girls or we love girls. Something like that. Okay. And so you, cuz you and Angela White had never worked together before, right? Well, we work together all the time. But never on a girl and girl only basis. Okay. I, so yeah, we do like great threesomes and stuff. But not, I don't know how many times I worked with her for threesomes. Okay. But not like just us, you know? Okay. I see. Cuz I thought that it, you guys had never worked together before, which shocked. Never worked together before. Yeah. But so how was that scene? It was awesome. And we were crying immediately. It was really cool because they like separated us all day. Uh-huh. And we even had security guards. Really? We wouldn't like try to run for each other. But like, it ended up that I had like the huge security guard and Angela barely had security because I knew that she wasn't gonna try to make a run for it. Didn't trust you. Because and they caught me like, texted her like, "I gotta make a run for it." And like, was trying to get to her all day. And I gave up. Really? They kept you separated. So it's in the scene. It's super cute. Oh, that's really funny. So I loved it. I loved that. So let's go back a little bit. Let's talk about how you got into the industry, which I guess really has to start with your story about how you met Johnny. Yeah. And how initially he used to be a one-night stand and that didn't work out. And you've never had a one-night stand before, right? Nope. Okay. So tell us that story. I just used the condo for the first time actually on a Wicked set. Oh, really? My whole life. Yeah. Oh my god, dude. I had it. Yeah. I just finished my first Wicked movie and we need to use condoms. Oh my god. They're [ __ ] it was a [ __ ] and I kept forgetting. I was like, "Oh [ __ ]." I mean, that's their thing. And kudos to Wicked for having that policy. But it was kind of pain trying to put a condom on. Okay. So for I met Johnny when I've always been like a long-term relationship person. So I had only had three boyfriends before Johnny. And those are the only guys I ever [ __ ]. Like, never fooled around or had a one-night stand. That's why I don't know how to use a condo. Hmm. And then I met Johnny on Instagram after a breakup as like, kind of like a joke. Cuz I reckon I'd, I knew people in porn before porn, but not like on a basis where I knew like all their names, you know? Yeah. So you were watching porn? I was. I'll always watch porn, but never know. I just recognized him as like the bald browser's guy. Yeah. So I saw him and I'm like, "Oh, he'll be perfect cuz he won't get attached to my ex. He's like a porn star." Mhm. And I'm gonna hate him. That's what I just thought in my head. I thought he was gonna be like this douchebag porn star guy. I don't know about that. Well, I mean, look, it's like an image. It's an easy thing to assume that the guys in the porn industry like douchebags. And some of them are, but a lot of them are really. I love the. Well, yeah. And John is so awesome. Like, I have worked with him in a long time, but we've shot him like quite a few times back in the day. And he was always one of my favorites. He's quiet, he's respectful, like he's really kind, like he's just like, he's a nice, really nice guy. Yeah. Okay. So one, okay. So what was I saying? You were saying that you thought Johnny was. Okay. So I thought that it was gonna be the perfect one-night stand. I knew what his dick was like, you know, I didn't want to like waste a time. Mhm. I don't know. So I hit him up and we, and I said, "I want to [ __ ] you." And so we met up and at a bar and went back to his house to [ __ ]. So how did he react at first? He's like, "Whoa." He was like, "All right." No, he was cool. Yeah. He probably gets that request quite a bit. But if he doesn't get it for my god, always. Well, he always says that there's everyone will hit you up to say like, "Oh, let's [ __ ]." But then they're in like some country or, yeah, like in Russia or something. Really. He's like, "Okay, like, if you're ever here." Yeah. But I was like 20 minutes, 30 minutes away. So he was like, "Oh, okay. This girl seems, you know." And I wasn't like being crazy. I was like, "What's [ __ ]?" And he was like, "Okay." Yeah. I was like, "All right, where do you wanna meet?" Okay. So I had never done anything like that before. Were you nervous? I was really nervous. Yeah. I was crazy nervous. I got pulled over on the way there for a speeding ticket. I got a speeding ticket. Oh my god. Yeah. I was super nervous. But then once I met him, he was like, so shy and cute and nice. Like, I walked her to the bar and I was like, "Oh no." Like, yeah, I thought he was gonna be like some dude. Yeah. I don't know. Really like aggressive. Yeah. She, I don't know. I just pictured him that way. Right. I immediately liked it. She was just like, "Hi." Like, "Oh my god, like, who are you? Are you so cute?" Yeah. So we went back to his house and I slept over. And it's just been inseparable since then. And you know, like, right away that this was pretty much the guy for you. Yeah. We, we pretty much just immediately knew. Wow. And I just went into a routine right away. And oh, yeah. But I said I would never do for you know, I'll never do that. And then we went to Mexico. We drove to Mexico and we were there for six weeks. We drove all the way to Cabo and like live together there. Mhm. And that's where we filmed this like little sex tape thing. Mhm. And at the same time, I was, I had started an erotica blog, my sins life, Tumblr, vlog, old school. And had generated like, I had no idea about like marketing back then or anything. And first, somehow had just generated this whole like fan base. I think I had a half a million readers a month at that time. While we were still in Mexico, is I could erotica blog about me and Johnny like falling in love with the porn star and what it was like. Yeah. Just like super graphic details of like our sex. Uh-huh. And then we really sat this like little sex tape thing on his website at the time, which was Johnny sins.com. And just went viral. Cuz like everyone had been reading the end of the erotica. And then I was like, "Well, if you want to hear the rest of this story." And I put a link and it just went crazy. And then I was like, "Oh, yeah." And then like, I saw myself getting [ __ ] on camera and I was like, "Obsessed with it." Like, I loved watching myself. Especially sucking dick. Yeah. Like, I hate all selfies. I take a look. There's a dick in my mouth. Like, I love the way it looks. Like, I remember looking at the picture for the first time, like, "Whoa." So I've always just loved like, I've been infatuated with like the way it looks. That's that's awesome. You know, it's really funny. I actually have a video that's like hidden on my computer of me blowing this guy. Yeah. Before my boyfriend. And actually loved it. I was impressed with my skills. I have to say. I was like, "Wow." But you know, I did. I know what I know. Hell no. I already accidentally released my topless pictures. I'm not. And then once it went up, I was like, "[ __ ] it. I'm like, I'll just promote it. Cuz I mean, it'll make money off of it. Because we all know once it goes on the internet, there's no taking it back. So I was like, I'm just gonna go with it. But what bugged me about watching this video was like, the my bottom two to three cookin. And that's all I can look at. And I've never really noticed it before. Because, you know, my topics, I have an overbite. Top teeth cover it. But I was like, in shooting down into my mouth with. Oh, like I could never afford. So I gotta look at those teeth fixed. You always notice that one like little thing about yourself that no one else notices. Yeah. Of course. No, no. I don't notice that. Yeah. I know. But I mean, that's, I'm so self-critical that like, I know that I could never do. I could never do porn for a couple reasons. First of all, I'm honestly not an exhibitionist. I don't even like watching myself in the mirror getting [ __ ], much less like watching myself on video. And I'm so self-critical that I just like the idea it like makes me cringe. I'm not in the mirror. Like, I'm not like that at all. So I just know it's not like the right thing for me. But I like watching other people as. It's okay, guys. Yeah. That's always like impressive to me. But like for just for myself, a separate, it's not the right thing for me. I want to see that video though. I'll show you. But you will totally. I have it. I'll talk to you. I'll show to people that I know. But I just won't publish it. Gonna masturbate it later. So I should like actually just film your reaction. Okay. So back to you. So, okay. So you release this little clip with Johnny and it went viral. And then Browser signed me. And then Browser as well. So, so after that came out, you were like, "Okay, I do want to be a point." Yeah. And then Browser was like, "Hey, yeah, of course, of course." They were. And but I was only doing Johnny and no anal. Mhm. For three years after that. Wow. And you felt. But you like other women? I love. I prefer women for sure. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. So threesomes were a great thing for you guys. It was, yeah, to me, the perfect situation. Because I don't need like a bunch of different dicks. Like, if there's just one good dick, like, yeah, get her solid enough dick. You didn't need a lot of different [ __ ]. Yeah. Like, that's what I really like enjoy women. And you know, if I meet a hundred women, I'll find 99 of them attractive. I mean, a hundred men, like maybe two of them, maybe. And it's like a personality thing. Yeah. For me, women and it's like all these flavors. It's like food, you know? It's not like chai Oliver. What are some of your favorite funeral performers? Uh, I hate those guys. I know. I hate that too. When people ask me, they're like, "Who are some of your favorites?" I'm like, "Honestly, I love so many girls." And I'll just think of like, usually what will come to mind is just like, whoever I worked with in the past week or something. Yeah. Or like the ones I work with the most. Yeah. I'll go home and I'm like, "Oh, I didn't name like all these girls." I really hate that question. But the girls I get paired with the most are like Angela White, Adriana Chechik, Katrina Jade, people like that. They create crazy ones. Yeah. Yeah. Because you guys pair together so. Yeah. Like, I need. I love the girls look like a lot of energy. But then like, I don't like to say that because then I love the girls that are like, "Oh yeah." I like that too. So it just depends. Yeah. Do you like to be preferred, be submissive or dominant? Um, I prefer to be dominant with women. But that's not true because I guess I'm a switch with women. Mhm. But I'm definitely a sub with men. Mhm. You don't like to ever be dominant with men? I sometimes do, but I prefer you to because I'm very aggressive in general. Yeah. So I like a man that can like tame that. Yeah. So I'm very aggressive in bed. And if he can like put his foot down, he's like, "No [ __ ], you." Like, yeah, I'm the Dom. That's my favorite. Yeah. I'm the same. I'm very submissive in bed. And I don't turn it on men. But like, sometimes I'll do that power play. But like, you better always put me in my place. Otherwise, I'll be really, really sad. Yeah. Let me walk all over you. So Kissa, yeah. Um, you said that you got disowned by your family? Yes. For shooting porn? Yes. Can you tell us a little bit more about that? Sure. So when I decided, um, I guess I was after the sex tape. But when I decided to actually do porn porn. Mhm. I didn't want like my little brother, sister finding me on, you know, Pornhub or its website while they're, you know, their dick in there. And there's something like that, right? I wanted to be really open and honest about it. Mhm. So I told. I actually wrote him an email, like very professional. Looks my dad's like a business, very professional businessman. I thought he was getting vodka. Is that coffee? Yes. No, it's coffee-ish now. It's coffee water. Wait, why would she want? Okay, just so everybody's listening. Arnie just poured water. And this is coffee. Holy. I know. But it's like rinsed it out. It's like custard water. It's gonna be so gross. What do you mean, Joe? It's nice. It's actually delicious. Such a liar. It's kind of like coffee water. Yeah. Which is gross. Are you, are you okay? Ernie's like, "See, it's great." Honestly, it's fine. I want everybody to know that you think it's. You think that you should pour water into somebody. You ever so glad you were not a waiter. Edit that part out. Okay, sorry. We were about something very serious. So anyways, it's the time I got to. So yes, I wanted to be very open and honest. And so I wrote him a very, like, structured email, very nice email. Oh, explaining. And I was just immediately disowned after. So what did you write it to your mom or your dad? Or my mom passed away. Okay. Um, a few years ago. And my to my dad, who's like, heard about that. That's okay. My mom was like the cool hippie artist musician chick that would have been written at Intuit. But she would be supportive. Yeah. And then my dad's like the very, like, strong businessman. Mhm. Like, very, like, strict. Mhm. So he is not about it. Yeah. But I didn't want them to, you know, I just wanted to be honest. Yeah. They'll be, they'll be back, I guess, when when I'm done. So you don't talk to your siblings at all? No. I'm not allowed. You're not allowed. Are they? Yeah, they'll, they've recently turned of age. But I don't want to like robinov. I don't want to rock the boat. I just want to like do what I want to do and get back. And they'll be there. I know they miss me. You're listening to this. I'm sorry. It's okay. I mean, how did that make you feel? Was that expected? I mean, it's weird. It's a weird thing. The expected thing because like, I have always been a [ __ ] like since I was a kid. Like, I went to, when I'll haul twice. Like, I dropped out of high school. I've been like a party or crazy. I've always, I've never been a [ __ ] until now. But I've always been crazy. Like, so I'm not, no one understands like how it's so shocking that I did four. Because I'm actually like doing better than I ever have. Like, I don't have time to do drugs or get [ __ ] up. Like, if I do it once in a while, and I'll get like all party once in a very great while now. Of it, I'm like doing so well. Like, yeah. I mean, you've really like, you're an excellent. You're excellent with marketing. Yeah. I'm like, and you're an adult that. Yeah. And I always tease. Dokic's are used. I was teasing. I'm like, you know, you really taught me like how to be an entrepreneur and poor and by accident. Yeah. That's like the key. Taught me everything about business. Yeah. It's because of him that like I do all these things, you know, with my license, right? Affiliates and, you know, doing all these things. Yeah. Hopefully, I'm just gonna build a base for my future. And they'll be around when when I decide to do something else. Yeah. And well, and even able to pick your family now. Yeah. Like, to me, it's like, if you don't want to be around me, that I don't know if I can be around you either. Yeah. If, if you're willing to disown me over something like that, especially now, years later. Yeah. [ __ ] you. Like, yeah. That's what I kind of am with everyone in life, right? I'm not gonna like chase you. And like, if you don't want to be around me, like, then don't [ __ ] beer. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You always is such an incredibly like positive outlook on life. And I think that that's what, that's one of the things that I love about you. And that's why I love like following you on social media. And I think that's why a lot of people love following you on social media. So do you ever feel like the opposite of that? Do you ever get into like, get depressed or? Yeah, I, I go, I definitely go. It definitely comes in waves. But for me, in my whole life, like since I was a kid, I had a really bad childhood. And I think that part of the way that I coped with that was learning how to enjoy like the shitty times. And like, I really don't mind a bad day where I feel super like depressed and I'm listening to sad music and just like crying. And like, I really like those days. So I think that what I've really taught myself in life is to just like, that is okay. Like, the bad days are okay. So it's like, you don't always have to be happy constantly. If you can learn to enjoy the bad days, and you're enjoying all your days, you know? That's kind of how I look at life. Yeah. I know. I think there's something to that. Like, really accepting the low days because that makes the high days so much better. And you know, you need that yin and yang in your life. Yeah. And for me, like, one of my biggest issues is I hate sitting with like, being uncomfortable or being sad. And that's why I used, you know, alcohol so much in my life because I didn't ever want to feel like that sadness. So I would just like, you know, drown in vodka. Yeah. And now that I'm sober, like, I saw the hard time. But I have to accept those bad days. I have to accept that it's okay for me to be sad. It's fun. And not watering about fun is that music, like a good cry. Yeah. I see that. The way that you embrace that is really healthy, honestly. And I think that I'm really bad at that. I think a lot of people are really bad at that. You know, like, and and society tells us so much that the media is always selling us like reasons why we need to be happy. Oh my god. And then always be happy. And if you have this, you'll never be sad. And it's like, you have to have, you have to experience both sides. That's what it means to be human. Yeah. It's fun. I like. I like the difference. It's like seasons, you know? Like, yeah, I like to go through all the different seasons and, you know, feel everything. Yeah. I like emotions in general. They don't have to be happy, you know? Yeah. I think that's so important because that's something that, you know, I think a lot of us have been trained to not deal with our emotions. And I'm definitely one of those people. And I'm like, constantly working on it, you know? I'll have to like call my sponsor. If I'm having a bad day, and then she'll be like, "It's okay to have a bad day. It's okay to cry. It's okay to feel sad. Like, this is not like this all the time." Yeah. Just sort of weather those days. And then when you have great days, it's like, I don't know, it makes the sun so much brighter. Yeah. And everything's great. Yeah. See, I'm really healthy. I, I don't know. I just feel like you're really easy to just be a very, despite everything that you said that you've been through, you just need to be very healthy, like, well-put-together, like, whole human being, like, you know. Absolutely. All the all the things that I think is just really great in a person. People love you so much. I think that sarcasm is a big part of like my life because, yeah, funny. Like, the worse [ __ ] is, the funnier it is. Yeah. When you're sarcastic. Yes. Like, if you go to like a, like a non-dysfunctional family dinner, it's not as funny, you know? They like to be like, if it's shitty, if like things are going, like when you were telling me that story about how you're all the power blue and, you know, all that, like, I'm sure that you guys made so many jokes about that. But yeah, I was like, funny, you know? Yeah. It was like, being sarcastic is like the key to life, I feel like. It was so. What Kissa talking about is on Monday was the second to last day of my Wicked feature. And we were shooting in this office set down in like Pico Rivera. And the transformer blew. And we were literally about to shoot our very last scene. We had like 10 minutes left. And the transformer blew and the power went out on the entire [ __ ] block. And I often don't handle stress well, I'll admit it, especially when I'm on set. Yeah. I know. No, I want everything to go perfectly in life. I'm pretty good at hiding it, but in my mind, I get real pissed if things don't go right. And so I'm like, "Are you [ __ ] kidding me?" And we actually had to go out and buy a generator to power the lights so we could finish the scene. But I remember like, I don't know if you know Seth Gamble and like how kind of spiritual he is. And he was talking about, he's like, he's like, you just got to accept it. And he's like, you can't change it. And like him and Bridget B are talking about like, and I don't know, he's playing some like Eckhart Tolle for her about like accepting answers. Yeah. And I'm just like, "[ __ ] man, I mean, he's so great." I know. He was so raven like this [ __ ] power. Come on. I can go home. I just don't want to pick overtime at this location. It's really expensive. But he was right. Like, and I was saying to myself, like, this will make a good story. Yeah. It's funny, you know, that will stick out in your mind more than like the other days of that that you don't really wear. The other days. Yeah. Exactly. They all went fine. This [ __ ] is funny. Yeah. My life is falling apart. It's like the best joke. That's true. I mean, sometimes the best comedy. I mean, if you think about like how comedians, authors, like always know where shit's happened. Yeah. Talking about horrible things that happen to them or tend to be like really depressed. But those are like funniest people. Cuz we need humor to deal with life. Yeah. You know, otherwise, how the [ __ ] dick? Okay. So, so now one of the things that we couldn't talked about, but I want to go back to it. So you and Johnny were obviously together. Oh, you're still together. And you were only working with him. And then you decided to work with other guys. What kind of blowback did you get back for that? And what made you decide to do that? And how did Johnny take that? Okay, so for maybe six months or a little longer before I had made the decision to sign with Jules and like take that plunge, I had gone back and forth to Johnny like a hundred times. I was, I was super nervous that I would do something where he wouldn't know how he would feel about it. And then I did it and now it's too late. Mhm. So I was worried about that. So I went back and forth with him for six months, like making sure that he's okay. Johnny is like the chillest guy ever. Yeah. He really just wants me to be happy, you know? We've still never, he still never called me like a bad word, like a name. He's never called me a [ __ ]. He's never like raised his voice. Like, he's, he's definitely the stable one in the relationship. We all need that. He's like the calm. Yes. My boyfriend's the same way. He's like, always, his mood is always like the same. Yeah. Never in a bad mood. What, like, how are you always the same? I'm like, "This." Oh, me too. I'm the same rollercoaster. He was nervous too, that, you know, maybe he didn't think he was gonna be jealous. And he was. And of course, he had feels when I started doing it. But we're just so open with each other. And by the way, everybody, I have been dealing with it for five years before I started Johnny [ __ ] either girls for five years. You know? And I waited at home. Like, I was, I went through some jealousy times, you know? I mean, maybe 90% of the time I wasn't jealous. But there were 10% where you're not feeling well that day and he's going to [ __ ] like three perfect looking girls, you know? I would go through those days. So I knew what it was like. And I dealt with it for five years. So when it was his turn to do it, I kind of feel like he was like, "All right, girl, thank you. You have heard this right, right?" So although I think he felt some jello, he's always been proud and like, "Do what you want to do. You never wanted to like hold me back." And then I resent him later. Yeah. He's always had that fear. So, yeah, that's very true. He's been very supportive. Yeah. I'm some jealousy, some days. But he's so nice about it. But it's not like this whole thing is like this one thing, you know? I just feel a little sad. I'm like, "Oh, so sorry." He's like, "No problem." Like, that's the extent of it. So do you guys like never fight? Uh-huh. No. We argue about stupid [ __ ]. I mean, yeah, we still go back and forth. Yeah. But we've been together for six years now. So we just get on each other for stupid little things that bother us about each other. And what, what is the most annoying thing that he does? I don't know. I really had to think about that. Well, okay, I'll tell you mine if it will help. Okay. My boyfriend cannot load the dishwasher. Disabled. And it makes me crazy. And I swear to God, like, sometimes he just does it. He does it badly so that like, I won't ask him to do any of the cleaning up. And I will just do it myself. He just like put all the place on top of each other. Yeah. Like a huge pot in the top [ __ ] drawer. Or he'll put plates in like totally diagonal. And I'm just like, I don't understand how you don't see that this is so bad.

Like these are touching, they're not gonna clean. If they're done, yeah. Also too, he won't like rinse stuff before he puts it in, and he knows our dishwasher isn't that great, and it's not going to clean [ __ ] properly. You can't put something like crusted with like [ __ ] corn kernels in there, like it's just not gonna clean. And you also can't put wood in there, but he doesn't listen.

[Laughter] Well, he's terrible loading the dishwasher, but I kind of think it's very nice. Boys are dirty, it's kind of cute to me. Like, "Oh, you're so stupid and cute." Like, "Well, your thing." Oh, yeah, he came to save his life. I think it's cute. I have to like refold the time and hang it. I can't fault. Like, if I can make the bed, and this is the other thing where you tell once and then like put it in the [ __ ] a hamper. Like, you can use a towel more than once. Okay, sorry. We open like an orange right here. You like flip the table. My least favorite thing is like Johnny is like not passive-aggressive all the time, but like instead of addressing things, he will be like, he'll just say like a passive-aggressive thing, and I'm like, "What do you mean?" Like, "Just say what you mean." Yeah, you know, like don't like tell me. Or like, in three months, we'll bring up one thing. He's like, "You know, this thing bothered me." I'm like, "For three months?" You know? So I would rather you just yell at me and yeah [ __ ] and then get it over, get it over. And yeah, like the hide. I hate that. Yeah, I wish, wish you would express yourself.

Okay, but he's also terrible the dishwasher, but I think. Oh, you guys have traveled together a lot? Yeah. What are some of your favorite places that you guys have been? Uh, Mexico is our, that's like our heart is in Mexico. And we lived in Hawaii for two years, and it kind of just always felt like almost Mexico, you know what I mean? Is always missing. So Mexico definitely has like our heart. Yeah, I love that's where we fell in love and like, yeah, we just want to move there soon. So what, where, what part of Mexico you guys normally go to? We do three different areas. So we do take the Tulum or the Tulum side, which is like the Cancun pretty water side. That's not the Caribbean side, right? Yeah, yeah, like turquoise everything. Yeah. And then our favorite parts of our art is kind of like in the middle. Okay. And then Cabo. Cabo San Lucas is like the LA suburb desert heat. Cover. I love it there. Oh, it's so American. It's only like in that one area, like at the marina. I love that area. Like when I go, whenever I go there, I go to La Paz, which is, yeah, I live there because I have a really, really good friend who lives out there. So I'll go stay with him. And I used to shoot the Playboy Cyber Girl of the Year, and actually twisties treat. No, I didn't shoot in Cabo. Washed up out in Costa Rica, but I would, I've shot like foreplay away a bunch of times out there. Yeah, my friends have producers, so he would like put the whole thing together, which would be like amazing. So I do love that area. I just don't like, I used to love Cabo. We used to go there a lot when I was a kid before it got like really built up, and now I just like, yeah, it's kind of a lot now. Yeah, I can't believe we don't want to live there, but like the Toto Santos place is really beautiful. Yeah, we love Toto Santos. Yeah, that's really great. It's cool.

Is there anywhere you guys haven't been that's like on your bucket list? Yeah, Bora Bora and the Maldives. Maldives? Yeah, yeah. I have a friend who owns an island in Bora Bora. Hey, look, I don't own it, okay? I would like to go. I was just gonna say, cuz she has like little huts there. So if you ever wanted a cute, I think you actually told me what. Yeah, I've never, I've never been there. She keeps bugging me to go out there, and she keeps bugging me just shoot there, but I'm scared cuz the weather is like real iffy. Yeah, you know, you can end up having like a rain. Yeah, so it was a boy too. Yeah, for like a week. Old still so the rain. Yeah, but I mean, you don't want to like take a whole production out there. No, I'm like, not be able to shoot. Yeah, exactly, exactly. We're going to the Bahamas in January. Oh, during my boobs recovery. My big is that we're gonna go recover from yours. Yeah, I'm just gonna sit there with my big boobies. Excited. So you have, you guys have a website too? It's ins life. Sins like commas. Our website. And then what's on that? That's all like, because I think your whole purpose is sort of a more like raw look at sex, right? Like a lot of it's like pee. Oh, most of it is GoPro. Yeah, most of it's like shot ourselves. There's like almost a thousand videos up there of like threesomes, or me and Johnny alone, or solos and stuff like that. When we shot all kite, we shot Adriano Chechik and Megan Rain, and like a beautiful waterfalls. Were you guys like drag the floaties up there? Yeah, Megan almost died. What happened? We were like, we, cuz in Hawaii, you go to the first waterfall, and all the tourists are there. And then you climb to theirs. You can always just keep climbing the waterfalls. And right, so the further you climb up, the less tourists, because you lose tourists, right? Because they can't, yeah, because they don't want to make that, they don't want to do it. Yeah, so like by the fourth or fifth waterfall, it's always like this like Eden, like gorgeous, never like insane beautiful place. It's totally untouched. But to get there is really hard. So we had gotten there, we had like a pick four away. And then on our way back, it was pitch, like the sun had gone down. And in Maui, when the sun goes down, it's like down, like it's black, like black pitch black. There was nothing. So we had like one of our phones had a light, and we were like jumping over rivers that were anyway. So Megan like jumped over this one river, but underestimated it, and like it took her. And she was like, leaving. We had to like grab her hand. And we looked over, like two feet, like just right there was like a cliff, like major waterfall. So had she gotten taken over, we don't know. Oh my god. She's all giggly. Do we had so much? Wow, that's crazy. I would have [ __ ] my pants. Yeah. So like, there's a lot of like reality stuff on our site. And so, and yeah, so that's what that website. And then you have like all your sins. March? Yeah, we started this logo a few years ago, and it's taken, it's really taken off. Yeah, everyone really likes this logo. So yeah, we have a merchandise start shop. Sins life.com. And yeah, I love doing that. Star. It's one of my favorite parts. Yeah. Yeah, you like, I said before, you're really great at marketing. Thanks.

And then Avian, you're gonna be there signing, right? Yes. I'll be signing for Jill Jardin. And how do you like that? Like, do you like meeting the fans? Oh, conventions are my favorite. Yeah. Oh my god, I love conventions. Like I'm an old-school raver, and conventions are the closest thing that I get to like a rave. Uh-huh. Besides like EDC, like very similar to a rave. It's like a sex rave. Like I said, I like doing drugs or like music. Like you have all your friends. Yeah, I'm not like everyone's in one room, right? That energy, like electrifies me. Yeah, and the on the convention room floor, and I'm like, so hyper, and there's like boobs and butts and like, oh, my friend, and you know, and you like meeting the fans. I love it. I love the whole thing. You've, you ever had like any bad experiences? No. No, I love conventions. I mean, I sometimes get sick. That's probably the way. Yeah, I do. Because like, I won't touch my face at all, and then one at the very end, I'll touch my face. It like everyone gets sick. They call it the Avian flu. Yeah, it's sores. Yeah. Do you interact with your fans quite a bit? Yeah. Do you ever have anybody that kind of steps over the line? If you have problems then me of them? No, but I'm not sure if that's because of Johnny. So I feel like I don't experience a lot of things that some girls are like, "Oh, do you, you know, experience this bad thing?" And I think that there's like, I have a certain level of like a, like a barrier there. Mm-hmm. I don't know if that's true or not, but I've never experienced anything like negative with a fan or anything. Or that's good. You think that they like that? I think they respect you because of Johnny. They're like, I don't know, maybe is there that element? Like, you know how some girls will have a boyfriend, but they won't let people know about it because they want their fans to hold on to that. Yes, hope that they have a chance someday. Because I don't feel good. Well, yeah, better. But obviously that, like your story is totally different. Your story is all about how you're with another man and like how you guys are like a, like an item. Yeah. It's interesting. So I actually had to slow down with my social media of him when I started working with other guys, because it was ruining everyone's perception of me. Like you're saying, like it's a much smarter, I think, to hide your boyfriend. Yeah, as a foreigner, because it just makes you like an attainable. People weren't into it as much. Yeah, I did notice actually that there's been less posts with the two of you guys together on social media. So that was a conscious decision. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But everybody, she's still with Johnny. Yes. And they're still very much in love. Yeah. We love to hear the rumors though. Those are their favorites. Really. And makeup. I'm like, "Oh, cool new rumor about me." Before it was one thing to like hear rumors about other people, but yeah, rumors about yourself is really funny. Yeah, like, "Oh, those facts." Okay.

Um, well, thank you so much, Kisser. You're gonna do the ask Kisser portion separately for everyone on my Patreon. You do have a bunch of fans that have asked questions. So you guys can go to patreon.com/scishow and all and filtered to hear that. Kisser, is there anybody else? Anybody else? Is there anything else you want to tell your listeners? Our listeners? My listeners, I love you listeners. I don't know, blood. Love me forever because I love you. And can you tell everyone where they can find you on social media? Yes, I'm on Twitter at Kisser Sins. I want to Instagram at Coyote Loves You. And if you want to vote for me for male performer of the year, @x visit Avian. I would like that very much. Oh, yeah, we forgot to mention that that you are up for that. Yeah, I'm up for performer of the year in both and the fan categories too. So I'm very excited. I think you have a pretty [ __ ] good chance. Do you know what you're gonna wear? Yeah, no, I now I have to wait because of my boobs. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but I want to look classy this year. So actually, I need someone to help me dress. Help dress me because I do not know how to do classy, but I want to look really classy and pretty. Yeah, you should. You know what I do? Is I just, because I don't want to spend the money on a dress, I do Rent the Runway.com. And it's like, have you ever heard of it? No. So it's a website that you go to, and they have a whole bunch of like, like really high brand dresses, and you can rent them. And they come with, I think they send you like two or three sizes, just you know, you don't know what exactly is gonna fit you. And then you try it on, and then you wear. And if actually, if you get it early enough, you can return it for a different one if it doesn't work. Their customer service is really great. They actually have Rent the Runway, they actually have a showroom, I think at the Topanga Mall, where you might be able to try stuff on. Cool. But they have a lot of stuff, and it's pretty cool. Okay, that's my recommendation if you don't want to actually buy a dress. That's okay. Now they should sponsor me.

Alright, thank you again, Kisser. It was such a pleasure, and I will see the rest of you guys next week.

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