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But the reality of it is this is that you can't continue to blame other people for your shortfall. And the one thing that I do know for sure and two things is for certain is that black people are going to vote Democrat regardless. So even when it goes back to his original point where he's saying that we need to acknowledge and exalt the people that are being successful and that look like us, he still hasn't talked about Brandon Johnson. He still hasn't talked about Lori Lightoot. He still skips over Karen Bass because they're doing a horrible job. They look like us and they are a reflection of what is wrong with our politics and why we continue to vote Democrat regardless of the people that's giving us what it is that they giving us. I I don't agree with any of what he's saying right now and I think it speaks to the thing.
But I think the one thing between you and me and Tom is that all those people you just mentioned, I know these folks. Let's start with Karen Bass. This woman don't become a member of Congress to actually become the chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus and then running a city like LA, which by the way, it doesn't just take the ability to just get a certain sector of voters. You got to build a winning coalition. This woman did that in LA. I was just with her in Long Beach, right, when we were at the Dem the US.
No, she's done a good job. She's Did you just say she's doing a good job in LA? You just said that. I think she is doing the best to her ability in LA with the service.
I'm not I'm not Hold on. I'm not questioning. Let me be very clear. I'm not questioning that she's working hard and striving to do the best that she can.
Hey, I don't even live in LA, but I feel bad for the folks out there in LA.
I'm not questioning her intent in terms of whether she cares about citizens. I'm saying in terms of her efficiency, in terms of her productivity, did you just say that she's doing a good job in LA? Cuz I know a whole bunch of people in LA that would say hell no.
There are those. Yes, there are some of the folks that tell me that. But I said some other folks tell me that, you know, again, with the the circumstance that she's under, right, with the economy that she's inheriting, with the lack of jobs, with all the different things that comes along with Los Angeles politics, I think that she's actually moving in the right direction. She has a very wellunded opponent right now. There's a lot of negativity out there about the job. But when I talk to you about the day-to-day services, making sure that the city have the basic services theme, trash being picked up, making sure that people actually can try to feel safe. She's doing her best to try. I mean, these are
Wait, wait, wait. We have a crime.
More police officers choosing to quit than ever before in Los Angeles. Similar to over in Chicago. She's regularly operating at a budget deficit. can't even balance the balance the budget effectively. He's saying that she's picking up trash. That is the most basic basic
but people care about and they do care about public safety and I think public safety is a struggle for not just her but for other mayors across the uh the country and it's a lack of federal government.
They're operating at a 1.4 to$ 1.6 billion budget budget deficit and they're projected for it to be higher. They've been operating at a budget deficit under Lori Lightoot. It's ballooned under Brandon Johnson. We don't want to talk about the fact that they spent city resources on illegal migrants and housing them and we can't even track where the money was going as far as who it is that was benefiting from all of this money and sheltering and things like that. There's a lot of a lot of gaps and a lot of lack of accountability, but we only want to speak on I don't even know how you can use Karen Bass as an example of what's right as a as a political person, as a mayor of a city, as a black woman that is running the city into the ground. They don't even believe in voter ID,
right?
They don't even believe in voter ID. What has Karen Bass done? Give me one thing that Karen Bass has done that's been good since she's been a mayor of Los Angeles. I think that if you're going to look at this when it's all said and done, the people of
Answer the question, man. He simply asked you a question. What has she done that has been a positive thing? Answer the question. Well, I think if you look when it's all said and done, but you just said she did a good job. So, what do you mean if it's all said and done? You just said she's been doing a good job. So, to say that she been doing a good job, which means that you should have some evidence to to to to back your claim. So you just doing what the Democratic party do, which is to deflect, deflect, deflect, deflect.
The city of Los Angeles definitely have some concerns about her leadership, right? That's what any mayor I can make a case with mayors that people like him when people don't, right? But when it when you look at her ability to
Yeah, but LA is the second biggest city in America with with what how many people in LA? 4 million, 3 million, something like that. That's completely different.
Make a case with mayors that people like him when people don't, right? But when it when you look at her ability to understand with the circumstances, actually being a partner with the state, calling out the federal government, she's got to continue to deal with public safety. I agree with you on that, Stephen and Anton.
He not answering the question,
but when you look at her ability to basically get the funding that is needed and get things done. I think ultimately she's got a tough race ahead of her, but I think she's I think she's doing what she can do. And also, I mean, with the Olympics and everything coming, she's got
You still think she's going to get the You still think she's going to get support financially from a lot of people out there after the wildfires fiasco out there in the Palisades and all of that, you really think that's going to happen?
The wildfires was Yes, the wildfires was another big case. But you look at her ability to be present because one of the things that she got criticized for for not being president. So during the wildfire, she was as present as she possibly can. And I think that you look at the funding with the cooperation with the state and the federal government, she got to fix that. Yeah, she got
But what you still haven't answered the question. What has she done? Give me one thing that she's done well in Los Angeles.
I think she's created jobs. I think she has definitely utilized her federal research as a member of Congress to get money.
She's created jobs. How? What? Like what is what is he talking about?
I think she has definitely utilized her federal research as a member of Congress to get money to help with infrastructure, which has been a big concern with LA folks. And I also think that she's doing her best to try to figure out a way with microobility and different things to reduce the congestion in the traffic. And she said publicly that the traffic and infrastructure needs in the city of Los Angeles is a top priority of hers. But she's also
homelessness drugs.
I'm getting there. Hold on. Then
then you get to what she's doing around homelessness. And we like to call them unhoused Anton as well because they're all citizens.
No, they unhoused, brother. Don't see that. That's that dising Jame was that at least heard.
No, that's that sensitive being a man that's compromised. Words hurt feelings. They homeless. Y'all trying to call women birthing persons now. Women, the Democrats, the Democrats don't even want to call y'all women no more. They want to call y'all birthing persons because well, male and female and man and woman, it depends on how you feel, man.
Oh yeah. That's that conservative elitism right there. They're unhoused.
Diversity, equity, and inclusion. Talk
unhoused people.
What is the difference between unhoused and homeless?
Where in Los Angeles? She's doing her best to find them a warm place to stay. Prioritizing the women while some unhoused men they can't they don't have enough shelters to shelter.
Warm place to stay. Where is it cold in LA?
It's cold in LA.
Right. You Stephen, you've been in LA. It does get a little cold at night. When is the last time that you walked ski? When is the last time that you walked skid row? I walked ski just
I walked about a year and a half ago. I walked
Okay. So, you know
what's really happening out there?
You You really understand the drug problem. You understand that it's everywhere. You understand that you can't stop step over without stepping in some form of feces everywhere. Where are they cleaning up anything over in LA? What what is safe in LA? I mean, look, I think that you've been to LA. I've been on Skid Road. That is a isolated area of a lot of unhoused people, right? And it's unfortunate. No, no. Hey, I ain't going to lie. I went to LA for the for for a movie in December. Shout out to Tek. I I went to go film for Hidden Color Six. I went nowhere near Skid, bro. I'm talking about you $5. No one got $5. Get out my face. Like, I ain't going to lie. They everywhere though. I ain't going to cap. I mean, they was at the hotel I was at just walking around in the lobby and this is a prominent hotel I was in. Like, man, they I ain't going to lie. They be boy, they all over it.
I I just I just stayed right there at at LA Live or Crypto.
But you and I both visiting, Anton, like we're not citizens.
No, I'm I'm there regularly. And when I stay there, I'm looking at this monstrosity of graffiti that is directly across from Crypto Arena. If you walk two blocks up the street and then you take a a quick Uber, you're going to see people sleeping along the freeway on the entrance ramp. It look
actually actually Anton actually Anton, you see that right down the block from the movie theater which is right around the corner from Crypto.com Arena and the JW Marriott.
I wasn't near either of them and I've seen a whole bunch of homeless people, bro. I got I mean I couldn't even walk to the store without like three or four people either walking past him or somebody walking up to me asking me for some money.
You see that?
Right into the rits. That's right. That's right. But
I don't know how you defend this like honestly because we're not
What I'm telling you leaders accountable.
She's got challenges, right? And the difference between you and I is that I'm willing to work with her to offer solutions and not just come on these platforms and just
we need these people. All of these lifetime politician you bought her out from a business perspective. These are lifetime politicians. These are people that are a part of the establishment of people that are in the bullpin that get some kind of incentive. All of these people sign the same letters. Karen Bass down in Denver, Mike Johnson. Uh when my man was over in in New York, y'all former mayor, he signed the same list. The Houston mayor before they practically ran out of money down there. And then you also had Brandon Johnson. They signed all of the same list in order to get incentivized from the federal government when Biden was in there in order to get all these illegal immigrants. Yet we didn't yet we couldn't find no money for some reason. We found all of the money for the illegal migrants, but we couldn't find any money to do infrastructure improve.
Anton finally cooking. He cooking right now. I ain't going to lie, Anton cooking right now with this point.
Make sure that the recent are
infrastructure is not where I was going next. Come on, guys. Let me move this along.
Let me move this along. Let me Let me move this along. Let me ask you this question. Migrants, immigration, what kind of effect do you believe that that has had on the African-American community in this country? Darren, I'll ask you first. black Americans.
You know, growing up in Georgia, um there was always a concern that when you had immigrants who come into Georgia and other places that we wanted to be able to have access to those jobs, right? And there's always been an emphasis that had to be placed on like if we have true American citizens who are here in this country who are qualified and want to work, let's figure out a way to put them to work. Now what has happened in this country over the last few decades even before that we have had a migration
bro he does this thing this is what politicians do he's so compromised he do this thing that all of these politicians do which is just to deflect and not answer the question it's like you don't need to give a book you don't have to go through this like through this saliloquy before you get into your point just answer the question this is what the Democrats do whenever you ask them a direct question they get to babbling to get you off topic IC. It's a debate tactic that people do. When they don't have an answer to a question, they started they start answering and talking about other stuff that didn't have nothing to do with what you just said. Just answer the question. Gosh, answer the question, man.
In this country who are qualified and want to work, let's figure out a way to put them to work. Now, what has happened in this country over the last few decades, even before that, we have had a migration of illegal and documented immigrants here. A lot of them are people who are DACA recipients and people who have been born here. But we also have some folks who enter this country illegally and they're not trying to actually get a pathway to citizenship. And so what we see as an African-American community, Stephen A, is a confluence of, okay, when I go in this place and I look at this restaurant or I go in this particular facility, all I see back there are people who I believe are either here legally or illegally. But then I would say to a lot of the black folks in our community, okay, well, let's make sure that if we want to do those jobs, we should apply for them. And so I do think that there's a
black people do apply for them. Who do you think were doing these jobs before these illegals or legals people was over here in general? Black people were doing these jobs. This is the difference though. You can pay those people less money. So it's not that black people are not applying to jobs. You just sat up here and said it started the live. And the other argument was that ain't nobody hiring. So how money you going to say that ain't nobody hiring and that's why black people ain't got no jobs. But then you say, "Well, black people shouldn't apply for jobs cuz that's why they can't get a job." What are you talking about? He was just SAYING THAT. WHY YOU NOT SAYING THAT LIKE LIKE 10 MINUTES AGO, 15 minutes ago? You was just saying that. You just saying what nobody hiring. Now they hiring. They just ain't applying. No, it's just the fact that black people need to get paid for what they what they're owed. And these people that are coming from another country don't care. They are willing to take any crumb they can get to get access to America. Black Americans are not just owed a little crumb. We've been here since the inception of this country and we deserve that. We deserve anything that anybody else will get because we were the foundation of America. So, no, we're not going to work a job and get paid less money or get paid under the table on some BS or not have the benefits that we we we are not uh we we shouldn't have or or we should have, I'm sorry, or work a job where we getting disrespected. See them immigrants, they don't mind coming over here and getting talked to and disrespected and treated any type of way cuz they just want a job. We we put too much work in historically for us to not get treated that way. So what you're not going to do is sit up here and say that whatever his name is, you goofy. Let's keep going though.
A sentiment amongst the African-American community, particularly particularly older people that feel that way. But I would tell you that a lot of these jobs African-Americans are willing to do and they are applying for them. But you also have people who are here legally who will come to this country cuz not all immigrants are here illegally. Like a lot of them are not from places. Yeah.
I got Let me chime in. Let me tell you why I'm inter interjecting because the belief is Yeah. of course there everybody that's here is not here illegally. We got that. But still anywhere from 12 to 15 million people cross the border illegally. We all know that that was the Biden administration telling us that you know what there was no there was no crisis at the border when clearly there was. I think that's a big reason why they lost the election along with identity politics. Don't get me started with that. But ultimately what it comes down to is this, Darren. I think that you have a lot of folks out there, not just Democrat, not just Republicans, but independents like myself that look at it and we look at the Democratic party and we're saying black folks make up 13.6% of the population. We're no longer even the dominant minority. And you have a Democratic party that's willing to sort of shove us to the side because they could afford to do it because they could take our vote for granted, right? So by being people who support illegal migrants coming into this country, that's a voting block that ultimately could work in your favor. You even got the what is it the state of California? You got people voting on illegal migrants being able to vote when you're supposed to not be able to vote unless you're an American citizen. That's the kind of stuff that we're talking about. How do you defend that as a liberal? Let me say this as a Democrat and I'm a moderate more so than I am a literal a liberal.
No, you're not. No, you're not. Be quiet. No, you're not. Um, okay. Let me just say this. Number one, I want to make sure that our borders are secure.
All right. No one should be entering this country, particularly if you're entering this country illegally to come over here to harm, kill, and rape people. I do not want those folks in the country. But the unfortunate thing is that a lot of those people are already here. So if they're here, I want them trying to actively seek citizenship. Okay?
Why? You don't even know what they history is back in their country. People can come over here. This is what people don't understand too. Do y'all know that the majority even in Mexico, Mexico is the closest neighboring country to America? Obviously, it is the neighbor neighboring country to America. Do y'all know that the majority in crime in in Mexico goes unreported and unsolved? I did a breakdown on the Ashley Gonzalez video, but I I didn't post it on YouTube because it would have been too too too too hot for YouTube. I was speaking that truth. Do you all know that the overwhelming majority of the people that come from these immigrant countries, these third world countries, but specifically a country like Mexico, like 90% of the crime either goes unreported or unresolved. Do you know what that means? That means when you have millions and millions and millions of people, whether they be legal or illegal, come over to America, you don't know what their criminal history is. They could have unalive somebody. They could have uh RAP3 somebody. I'm going to use these words cuz you know, YouTuber was sensitive. They could have unalive somebody, RA3P somebody. Uh have had connection to the cartel. You don't know what their history is. You don't know what they're doing. So, let's not have this mentality. Well, let's just let them come over here and get access. No, they're here legally. They should be sent back home. And before you bring anybody over here, you should do a deep dive into who they are. So, even though they may be a part of the higher percentage of their their their community financially, at the end of the day, you still don't know what their history is. You can I can only imagine the amount of people that's in America right now that have done heinous crimes against people just completely just just like I'm talking about to to biblical biblical proportions than done crazy stuff to people. You know how crazy the cartel is doing crazy stuff to people but then they come over to America cuz they want to run from the fact that cuz you'll get more street justice than you will over there than you will from the from the from the actual justice system over there cuz it's all corrupt due to the cartel. So the cartel will probably hold you accountable before the actual police will over there. But um I can just imagine all of those people that have done whatever they done coming over here to America. Why give them access to do anything over here? They should be sent back home. And again, that affects black Americans because they don't do nothing but get stuffed and pushed into black American communities. They don't do nothing but get stuffed into us. And we got to take on their BS behavior. We don't want to do that. We got way too much stuff to fix over here with our own community, which is why this conversation is being had. So to just speak from this perspective of how you how you talking, this is what most uh Democratic politicians do. So if anybody at this point, I mean, if you really care about the black community, I'm going to assume you anti-lack if you a Democrat. You could be anti-black and be a Republic who too. I don't give a damn a damn about Ibra. But if you was just this staunch hard Democrat, you you you to me you you you are just antilack to the fullest extent. You anti-black. I mean it's crazy, dude. Let's keep going, man. And damn ain't no cuss word. I said damn. Damn is not considered a cuss word. Don't get me on that one. I said damn. I ain't say nothing else. Let's keep going.
If they're not willing to do that and they're over here commit crimes, we need to send them back. I'm saying that as a Democrat, Stephen A. However, we do have a lot of undocumented immigrants here.
Ille being illegal is committing a crime, you idiot. Do you not understand that? That is literally an illegal immigrant. Being illegal is committing a crime. Coming over to America with no paperwork, not legally, is committing a crime. So, it doesn't matter what level of the crime, you're a criminal. You should be sent back home regardless.
I'm saying that as a Democrat, Stephen A. However, we do have a lot of undocumented immigrants here who are willing to work. I believe that if they're willing to work, they're not committing crimes. They want to be productive citizens.
they NEED TO GO WORK BACK HOME. That's why their homeland is in shambles. Maybe they should go work back home. They ain't got to work over here.
Going to pay taxes. Let's figure out a way to get them a work permit. whatever state process you need to go, let's make sure they actually are documented and we know where they're working if they're going to be productive citizens to our environment and to our communities and particularly in our agriculture.
If they so productive, they could be productive back home. Shout out to uh uh Afronet with the $20 donation on Cash App. Much love to you. I appreciate you. Thank you for the $20 donation on Cash App
community. Then I think that we need to give those folks a pathway to get the proper permit to make sure that they're here. Lastly, I'll say this is that there are a lot of people who leave this country and they say, "Okay, you know what? I'm here legally. I'm going to go back to my country." And then it takes them forever to try to come back. A lot of folks actually want to leave and come back in the right way. And that's something that I think there's a spirit of bipartisanship in Congress where folks can figure out that those who are here and got sent back or decided to go back where they were here temporarily on a work permit or school, if they want to come back into this country, let's try to minimize the time they need to come back. If I go if I go and I rob somebody and I get away with it and then I go and start a business with the money that I rob somebody with, is that justified? If I go and I sell drugs,
that would be the American power structure. Anti Daniels, I'm not disagreeing with with you, but the same American power structure that you believe systematic racism doesn't operate, that would literally be the way that the American power structure was built. Funny how you know what it applies when it comes to that, but it don't apply when it come to black Americans. Let's keep going.
With the money that I rob somebody with, is that justified? If I go and I sell drugs inside of my community and then I use that drug money in order to build a business around, is that justified? Can I can I do the wrong thing on the outset of what I what I purposed to do and then I can justify a pathway to doing the right thing with the support of our federal government and our Democrats. Does that make it right?
That's what y'all Republicans, that's what y'all say what happened in the Civil War. We fought for you guys to not be slaves anymore. But why were we slaves in the first place? And you guys actually didn't fight. When they use that argument, make sure you understand. They didn't fight white the white men in that. They weren't fighting, maybe two of them, but they weren't fighting for black people to be free. They were fighting so they didn't have to be controlled by another system. They weren't fighting for black people to be free. That was just something that the uh that the power structure put in at that time. Abraham Lincoln put that in. So, hey blacks, you guys will get freedom if you fight in our war because we're losing. That's what actually happened. But it's funny how the logic they and they understand the logic when it come to this. But when it comes to other stuff, it's like now the logic don't apply no more. Now what racism? What? What? What? What were you talking about? Now they don't know nothing. But let's keep going though.
No, the very foundation. And I would
exactly that's literally the argument for reparations. Thank you, Empress. Let's keep going though.
Expect for you to understand this, especially with the deorter and chief uh Barack Obama because Barack deported way more people than she ever could and million. I would I would I would expect for you to truly understand that, especially with the Supreme Court taking up birthright citizenship, which should not be afforded to any migrant.
Agreed. Agreed. I we I didn't really didn't do a video on birthright citizenship cuz I mean, what's the point, man? I was disappointed when I seen that, man. I was disappointed that they uh that they that they basically they gonna keep it or they not going to do anything to change it. I was disappointed, but it is what it is, man. anybody because it should be abolished. It was it was for the descendants of slaves for people that did not ask to come here should be abolished. It was it was for the descendants of slaves for people that did not ask to come here who had children here or was forced to work here who had lineage here. And so now birthright citizen is being taken advantage of by illegal migrants that are coming over here getting dual citizenship. Chinese uh people come over here pregnant, they have children over here, and a lot of times they're also leaning into that in order to justify that they need a green card or that they should become a citizen or have a pathway to citizenship.
You cannot come over here and do things the wrong way because not only is it messing up what we have going on over here as far as how we should be allocating resources to the judges and the immigration process, it actually is disrespectful to the people that did it the right way. That's why you had so many migrants, people that are legal citizens in the United States, not supporting um um illegal migrants having that that pathway to citizenship because they did do it the right way and they believe in American values and principles and they go about really taking care of our taking care of us, paying their taxes to really being model citizens in the United States of America. No, you can't do that.
Got you. But what do you say, Anton, to people that would bring up on the left, they'd bring up Trump and the fact that while he's dogged about his position when it comes to migrants of Hispanic descent or whatever, you've got white South Africans coming over here and supposedly he's facilitating a path for them to come over here as well. And he's not as dogged in his approach towards them as he is towards people who happen to be of Hispanic descent. What would you say to that? I I don't support and I'm I'm objective across the board. I believe that everybody has to
No, you're not.
Objective across the board. I believe that everybody has to come come over here the right way. I do think that there are situations and and the Biden administration uses broadly. There are situations where people are being, you know, genocide and so on and so forth that are happening in other country other countries. I'm not talking about just white South Africans. I'm talking about in general. Um, but if we're not going to and if we're going to deport people back to Haiti, then we shouldn't give any kind of leeway to white South Africans either.
Yeah. Who cares if they getting genocided? Nobody cared about black Americans. We was getting genocided over here. So, who cares if we getting genocided? Because at the end of the day, anybody that come from a country where they become a refugee or they getting genocided, guess who still got to pay taxes for them to be over here? Us. So, I don't care about none of that. I don't care about that genocide. I'm not going to wish no harm on no people or death on people. But who cares? That ain't got nothing to do with us. Nobody was there for us when we was getting genocide. None of these countries gave us a safe haven. So, I don't care about none of that. I don't want to hear it. Genocide. I Hey, that's tough that they going through that. I wish those people the best, but America should not be the safe haven for that. They don't nobody care about that. Kiss my ass. So, I'm objective and thinking that there should be very much a an even playing field across the board as far as what a pathway to citizenship is supposed to look like. And I do not support illegal migrants coming into the United States of America and then gaining a pathway to citizenship. I think that that has happened for far too long. And
and the white South Africans aren't getting genocided. Um, that is a propaganda machine that's being pushed. If anything, it's the black South Africans. First of all, South Africa was colonized. So it's like why nobody talk about the genocide the South Africans went through. So if anything if it was happening which is not you reaping what you saw if we going to keep it aund but if anything unfortunately the South Africans are genociding each other of the black South Africans quote unquote black are gen the colors they call colored are genociding theyself honestly but they not even getting genocide. even if the white uh type Africans were this is this is this is hey this is your your unfortunately ancestors this is you reap what you sow and I'm not for it I'm not saying that they should I'm just saying like hey it is what it is when the Biden administration sued Texas to keep open the borders while at the same time advocating for money and national security and also at our borders which also fed into what we was talking about in Taiwan and Ukraine and They tried to package all of that into one bill that actually sold you how corrupt our Democrats are inside of our political system.