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Omar does not deserve to be in US Congress. Check this out.
>> lower those costs. I don't think that is how it works.
You're >> It's exactly how it works.
>> That is not how it works.
>> your supply It is your supply and demand job. It is your supply >> your Sorry to belabor this. I know so many people um on both sides of the aisle have have asked you about the department's decision to remove um nursing, teaching, social work, and other critical occupations from the definition of um professional degrees and capping their ability to receive um federal loans. I know that in my home state of Minnesota, we're expecting to face a shortage of 30,000 nurses in the next 4 years, and I know that your home state of North Carolina, it is expected to see a shortage of 15 uh 13,000. Our nurses obviously um are limited in their capacity. They're overworked, and they're worried. So, I know [snorts] you said the decision is final, but I'm just trying to figure out if you can answer why did you move forward with an action that you know is going to be creating a problem or worsening a problem that already exists?
>> Well, first of all, let let me correct one thing. We did not remove any of these professions from a professional category. They were never never characterized uh in the law in the statute as a professional uh category. So, as these caps were put into place, and many professions were then being reviewed as to what constituted a professional category guided by the definition of a professional degree from Congress. So, that was the overview that the uh that we looked at as we are writing this new rule making with the with the overall goal of putting caps in place that are going to reduce the cost of college.
>> How how how is that happening?
>> Well, I I have a couple of articles here already that there are colleges
>> say?
>> They are saying that they have that they are looking at reducing the cost of their graduate program.
>> but looking is not addressing the problem that we are currently seeing. What I am asking you is that you've made a decision that is currently making the problem worse.
>> That is not correct. Let me let me push back on that.
>> Are you saying the numbers in Minnesota that we're seeing or in North Carolina are not real?
>> Well, what I'm saying to you is there are shortages in those states primarily in the undergraduate nursing program, which is not affected by this new rule and this new cap. Undergraduate programs are not affected at all by
>> I know, but can you
>> only graduate programs. So, the shortage is not a result of this cap being put on. The the shortage of nursing is that we don't have enough applicants into the nursing programs that that are you know, coming through our university.