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I do think you should be talking to me. I think you should have called me. I did take those plane trips with him. And you have a right to ask those questions. So, I'm glad to be here and I understand what the oath is. I have to be honest with you. You know, I'll be 80 years old if I live by my next birthday. I I don't remember everything that happened 24 years ago, but I do remember some things and I will tell you what I remember as best I can.
>> Um, she has been described on being on a 2002 Africa trip and providing massages. Was she or any other young female on that trip underage at that time?
>> Not that I'm aware of.
>> Okay. Um, did you ever receive a massage or have physical contact from her or anyone else on that trip? You've seen the pictures. There was one time when I was sitting up and I got a back row by neck work.
>> Okay.
>> And I think Shantae did it, but I'm not sure.
>> I wish Shantae had told me. I liked her,
>> but I didn't think it was anything unusual. I can't tell you how many airplanes I've been on where rich people asked me to go and they had someone offering massage. All these boats that you go on and all that, they all do that.
>> Um,
>> did you ever visit Epstein's Little St. James Island?
>> No.
>> Um, we have Virginia Guy who has testified seeing you on the island with two young girls.
>> Did this occur at all? Okay. Um, why do you think she would have made that claim?
>> Objection. Speculation. You can't possibly
>> Have you Have you ever met her or any other Epstein associated underage girl?
>> Not to my knowledge.
>> Okay.
>> In Epstein's 2016 deposition unsealed in the DOJ files, he refused to answer if you were accompanied by two young women who are approximately 18 years old on the island. Were any such women potentially underage with you? I know you've stated that you were not there, but did you have any interaction with the said?
>> Objection to the foundation of the question. He's already stated he was not on the island. He you're now asking about a claim of the fifth amendment by Jeffrey Epsky.
>> Okay. Is it possible and in your opinion that you andor your wife were targeted as a means of an intelligence gathering operation?
>> Object form of the question.
>> Object to the form of the question. No, no objection to if he knows that they were targeted.
>> I believe that's what she asked.
>> No, she said it's impossible. So, she's asking him to speculate instead of asking him does.
>> Do you know Do you know if you were targeted at any point?
>> I don't but
>> Okay.
>> I don't I'd sort of be surprised but I'm not I don't know.
>> Mr. President, before we left off, I asked you to characterize your relationship with Mr. Epstein. I asked you if you considered him to be a friend. You said you did not. Is that right?
>> I said we were friendly and we had a cordial relations, but I didn't know him well enough because we had almost no contact beyond what I described. At this time, I'd like to introduce what will be marked as majority exhibit 13. And this is Batesmart House oversight 000126. And while it's being passed out, this is a letter from a book of letters which
>> 50th birthday,
>> Jeffrey Epstein's 50th birthday.
>> Question,
>> Mr. President, do you recognize this letter? And for the record, does this appear to be your handwriting and signature?
>> It is.
>> And why did you write this letter?
>> Why did I? Because I was requested to contribute a nice letter for his birthday book.
>> And who asked you to write the letter?
>> I have no I don't remember.
>> Would Miss Maxwell have as I think my someone on my staff asked me
>> now. There's a word that our committee has not been able to identify and in our defense the Wall Street Journal has not been able to identify.
>> Imagine being on his staff.
>> Can you please read the letter for the record?
>> Yes. It's reassuring, isn't it, to have lasted so long across all the years of learning and knowing, adventures and errors, and still to have your childlike curiosity, the drive to make a difference, and the solace of friends.
>> Not a bad letter.
>> And because we haven't been able to identify that word until now, what did you
>> Which word was it that you could not You couldn't.
>> No. No. Errors.
>> Errors.
>> Well, I mean, anybody who's lived 50 years and done anything has made mistakes as well as progress and done things.
>> But for the record, you weren't referring to errors in judgment that Mr. Epstein had related to his uh inappropriate activities involving.
>> Absolutely not. I knew nothing about that. Uh we have um as you know in the files that were released there were several photos included you and u we have an exhibit here. That's just one of the photos and um
>> exhibit K, minority exhibit K.
>> Yep.
>> And uh and we'll we'll have that passed around and what we're trying to get out is some context for the public on whether you remember this photo uh and any details you may be able to provide us about it. So, do you recall the details of this photo? Recall the photo being taken?
>> No, I don't think I ever knew the photo was taken.
>> Okay. And and um for those who can't see it, it's a photo of you in a hot tub. There's a person next to you here. Um do you remember where it was taken? Is it
>> where was it taken? I'm almost sure that this p and I think there's an adjacent photograph which you probably have that if people saw it they would feel that someone was trying to calm them showing this picture. But anyway, this picture was taken uh in Brunai and we flew one night on the trip to Asia, the last very long leg.
>> He said we is who who is that including?
>> Well, my tell team that was working
>> Thank you.
>> on the AIDS issue and and Mr. Epstein was there and Miss Maxwell. But anyway, we got to the end of the end of the flight was Brunai. It's a tiny place, but a very wealthy one. And the Sultan of Brunai was a man that I had gotten to know well in my eight years as president. And he his first involvement with international matters was basically to join the AsianPacific Economic Leaders Conference which I started and which he attended and so and then he was very proud of that and he hosted his time came to host it. You know you do these things in a rotation and it came at either at the very end of my term or maybe in the next year. Anyway, he wanted when he knew I was coming and he said he wanted to help me with the my age initiative and he invited me to stay there and he said, "I want you to stay at this hotel and I hope you'll use the the pool." So, I did and then I got out and went to bed exhausted.
>> Just for the record, there's another picture that also shows this as part of the larger pool area. Do you all have that? so that he can refresh his recollection with respect to that.
>> We should have it. It's it's quite enlightening if you watch this.
>> Yes, it's noted.
>> It'll give you a different feel.
>> Thank you.
>> Okay.
>> We do have it. We don't have it with us right now.
>> Okay.
>> Thanks. I just wanted to make sure you knew the question.
>> And so I just Were there other people in that pool or hot tub with you as well?
>> I don't think there's anybody in the hot tub. I don't even I didn't forgotten that there was anybody in the hot tub, but it was big, but it was about Well, there's a he's
>> asking in the pool area. It
>> appears there's a this photo there's a girl over here. There's someone.
>> Yeah, I don't know who that is.
>> But he's also asking in the pool area. Were there other individual?
>> I don't know who that is.
>> Okay. So, you don't know?
>> No. And then then there were other people in the pool.
>> Okay. So, do you remember who were they under 18?
>> No.
>> Were they part of your traveling party? He's asking you.
>> Yes, they were. I think I think everybody there was part of our party. It was late at night and I or late I also believe that there was a secret service agent there at the other end of the pool.
>> Okay. And was this in public?
>> No, it was a hotel room and it the Sultan wanted us to stay there and the whole the water this big pool was on the same floor that there were several suites and I so we went out. I swam around. I sat in the hot tub for five minutes or whatever it was and I got up and went to bed.
>> And then a asked us, did you engage in any sexual activities with this person?
>> Thank you,
>> Mr. President. Uh there's been new information that has come out regarding uh the uh autopsy of Mr. Epste. Um I would just like to ask you personally and directly. Do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself?
>> Are you asking him to speculate on how Mr. Epstein died?
>> I I am asking what m the president thinks of
>> So you're asking his opinion,
>> Mr. President, was your was your friend Jeffrey Epste?
>> Are you classifying him as a friend who he has testified that he was friendly?
>> A friend in a letter. He said he was friendly but not you've asked for his testimony.
>> Mr. President, do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein was suicidal?
>> Do you know?
>> Was he ever suicidal?
>> Best of your understanding.
>> I don't know. I only know what the medical finding was. I think maybe
>> that's it.
>> He finally got caught and I don't know. I've I've accepted in my own mind. I don't know what happened.
>> Mr. President, what did you accept? That he killed himself or that he did not?
>> that he did, but I don't know.
>> Yes, sir. Thank you.
>> Neither do you. We don't. None of us know. We weren't there.
>> Mr. President, it's been an honor. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> It's again, it's from GMAX. Gain Maxwell.
>> We believe Well, it's redacted. We having seen the unredacted files. We believe that the the two is is to the same email. It says, "Sorry to hear about the Bellsburg stuff is bad news. Even worse, that it may be damaging. You know that one of one of my pet fears is that in London I I am press toxic. So I hope that I never add to your woes in that department. If I hear anything I will of course let you know. I could not help myself. There was one juicy little bit tidbit I did let out. The one about what a super stud that you are and how I have a crush on you and how you are hung like a horse and well you get the picture. Hope you don't mind. Um are you are you familiar with with this email?
>> Are you saying at the time it was sent or in the preparation for this
>> in at the time that it was sent? Were you familiar with
>> Oh, no.
>> Are you familiar with it before?
>> It's now famous.
>> Okay. What can you tell me about your knowledge of this email?
>> So his if his knowledge is only from when he was prepared for this hearing that would have been with his counsel or is that what you're are you asking for outside of any preparation for this series?
>> Mr. President, do you believe that Mr. Mr. Ban sent this or received this email?
>> I didn't.
>> Okay. Um so and I could there's more. Let me let me go to the next one. Um exhibit which would be number 20. And the answer is there's no question at the time.
>> I would just ask you to clarify whether or not you're asking if he knows about these emails at the time they were sent or if you're asking whether or not he came to learn about them in the course of preparation just so that distinction in time is clear.
>> Okay. believe this email is also very short. It's just the at the top again. It's from the WJC email, the same one. And uh two uh it says this email is silly. I want to spank bottoms tonight.
>> Who's it from?
>> It it is it's from the the same email account. the same email that has been used before, the WJC email. Um, what was your knowledge of Mr. B's relationship with Gain Maxwell?
>> I knew he was basically he contacted her in the same way that that she represented Epstein on things. I I I did not know nor did I need to know that they had a personal relationship.
>> A physical relationship.
>> Are you are you asking him whether or not they had a physical relationship?
>> You believe they had a physical relationship?
>> I don't know for sure.
>> And just to be clear, and you said it, but you did not have a physical relationship with Glenn Maxwell.
>> The president's answered that question multiple time.
>> Absolutely. your statement in 2019 about only meeting with Jeffrey Epstein on two occasions briefly. Um,
>> that is not a correct I'm going to object to that characterization. That is not what the statement says.
>> You're reading the Daily Beast art leftist rag by the way and on the third paragraph down it says in his Monday statement, Clinton said he had only quote one meeting with Epste in his Har Har Har Har Har Har Har Har Har Har Har Har Har Har Har Har Har Har Harlem office in 2002 and around the same time made one brief visit to Epstein's New York apartment with a staff member and his security detail. Those are the two reference to the Daily Beast. Bill Clinton failed to mention his intimate dinner 1995 dinner with Epstein. That's by Par Melendez on the 11th of July 2019.
>> All right, Mr. President,
>> uh, your statement saying, you know, only met with Epstein briefly twice. Was that part of an effort to cover up your close relationship with Jeffrey Epste?
>> Object to the form of the question. It misstates the record.
>> She's asking if you were trying to mis um mislead the public.
>> Oh, no.
>> Okay. How many times did Billy Maxwell visit your home in Chapel?
>> I have no idea.
>> Who invited her?
>> Well, I don't know. I don't know how she may have been.
>> Mr. President, that's it.
>> Okay.
>> Hillary had political events there.
>> Okay. Um, so is it in your uh is it to your knowledge was that was she at your home in Chapua likely because your wife had her open for Senate events? That's what you testified earlier today. Correct. That's not when he testified, but please ask the question as to what he would actually Thank you. I appreciate that.
>> I do not know. But if you are implying the reverse, I will volunteer something.
>> She was never at my house in Chapaqua for any personal reasons.
>> I didn't I didn't I didn't say anything for anything personal.
>> No, you didn't. But you have a great tone in your voice and you're very good at it. That's just
>> Thank you. I'll take that as a compliment. I am a compliment. Thank you. And I did not go to Y Law School or any law school for that matter.
>> Mr. President, did you ever make any kind of attempt to influence the media's coverage of Jeffrey Epstein?
>> No.
>> At this time, I'd like to introduce what we've marked as majority exhibit 23. And this is Bates number EFTA 02792895. one page.
>> Thank you. And this is email from Virginia Duprey, an Epstein victim that alleged that you walked into Vanity Fair and threatened them not to write sex trafficking articles about your good friend Jeffrey Epstein. Mr. President, is this true?
>> No. No. Not no. Hell no. Not close. No.
>> Why do you think Miss Jupy would make these claims?
>> Are you asking him to have an opinion about Miss Grey's point of mind? I just I can Can we Can we not do that? Like ask him about the facts that he knows as opposed to asking about the facts in other people's minds.
>> Mr. President, have you ever asked any other publication to shut down a story related to Mr. Epstein?
>> No.