7-Figure Entrepreneur REVEALS Why He Practices Polygamy | The Exit Interview - Ty Burney

All right, welcome to another episode of The Exit Interview with myself, Donnie Wiggins, and David Shans. You'll see him on the channel in his own separate uh interviews. Today I am sitting here with a guest that I'm really excited uh to talk to. We are talking to singles right now, specifically in Atlanta, Georgia. And welcome, Ty Bernie, to the show. What's up, Ty?

>> What's good? What's good? Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me. First of all, you're starting off very polished, >> very calm, >> and that's not the personality that I feel like you actually have. >> Everybody, I'm very calm. Are you? Yes. I don't do a lot of talking to people. Ask anybody. I'm real quiet. Unless you know me. >> Okay. All right. But you're single out here in Atlanta. Is you being super quiet part of the reason why you're single? >> No, it's just it's just the energy. I like I like to more than anything. So, but once you get to know me though, I don't be quiet. But it's just like being out. I don't I don't do a lot of talking. I'm just not one of those live people like, "Hey, look at me. I'm me." I'm not one of those people. >> I agree with that. I've seen you around for the last like >> maybe eight years or so. And you've been you're loud in your cars. >> Yeah. >> Okay. You make noise in your vehicles. Tell us what you do. >> So, I am an entrepreneur. Um I own a credit and funding um business and I've been trading for about seven years. And I used to own an MLM. So, a lot of people know me from the MLM space, uh, Forex, uh, credit and funding. So, been doing that for a very long time. >> Would you say that you're a high income earning man? >> Oh, 100%.

>> So, on this show, you guys, for those of you who are just getting uh acclimated with the show, I ask questions that you wish you could ask on a first date or a second date or a third date. I'm getting in the business and asking the things that might feel awkward. So, you make money. >> Yeah. >> Are you generous? >> I got a couple of dollars. Yeah. >> You got a couple of dollars? I got a couple dollars >> in the bank. >> Yeah. >> One bank. >> Got a few. >> Couple banks. >> Yeah. >> Too much for one bank. >> I like to diversify. >> Do you lead with money when you're dating? >> No, not at all. I hate that >> cuz I feel like that's every man, especially when you're meeting a certain type of woman. Every man leads with money. And I'm not the type of person. I feel like my character, I feel like the way I look, I feel like the way I carry myself will be enough to actually get me in the door without talking about, hey, I can buy you this and buy you this. Cuz I'm not doing none of that if I don't know you. Mhm. So, you meet a woman out. >> Let's say you meet a woman out and she's sitting by herself at a restaurant. Let's say she's at Houston's, >> okay? >> And you're sitting across the way and you see her and she's bad enough that you got to talk to her >> for sure. >> Do you walk up to her and talk to her or do you send her a drink via >> Oh, I'm getting a bartender ask her what she drinking. I'm sending the drink first before I go speak. >> Is that leading with money? >> No, but I feel like she's a woman and I feel like it's not leading with money. is just showing her that I am a man. >> Okay. So, you send a drink. >> Uhhuh. >> She looks up. She's like, "Tell him I said come over." >> Yeah. >> And now, while she's eating her meal, >> you're sitting at the table having conversation. >> When this conversation is over, >> do you pay her dinner tab or lunch tab? >> It depends on the conversation. If it's something that I feel like I want to pursue, 100% I pay for it.

>> Okay. One of the things that irks my soul >> is if a man approaches me while I'm eating by myself. Mhm. >> And he sits down and talks my head off. And >> man really do that. >> What? >> Oh, I never I'm never doing it. I never done it before. I'm not going to interrupt nobody while they eating. I'm not doing it. I'm going wait till you get get done eating or I'm ask it's okay if I sit with you. >> Yeah. But I feel like Okay, so y'all are not going to like this, but I feel like if I am sitting by myself eating, if I'm sitting by myself eating, I wanted to sit by myself. And if you come over and talk my head off through my entirety of my meal, I feel like you should take care of my bill cuz now we're on a date. >> Yeah. I'm never doing that because I just feel like I maybe I'm not that bold to go sit with somebody while they by themselves and they eating. I just going to interrupt their meal. I I'm not doing that. >> Oh, it happens all the time. >> I feel like it disrespectful. >> I would just wait till you done or send a drink over and you know and let that woman give her body language. Let you know do you want to come over there or not? You know, I just go off women body language. So, I have to ask you, are you single single? Like, nobody's claiming you single? >> Oh, no. I'm dating for sure. So, single, 100% single, but I'm definitely dating for sure. And I have people in my life that I have more of a a relationship with than others. I'm going say that. >> Oh, so you're dating multiple women? >> Um, yeah. >> Before this episode drops, do they know that? >> Oh, yeah. I'm very I'm openly honest. >> Are you a monogamous man? >> No, I'm just I'm just open very transparent about what I got going on. You're fluid. >> Not really. It's just that like I feel like until I find my person, I'm just I'm letting you know what's going on. Hey, I'm dating. And if something has to transpire to something more, I'm open. Okay. >> Right now, I'm definitely exploring my options. >> Exploring your options. I think that's fair. >> I think everybody that I've talked to so far understands the value in exploring their options. But when I'm asking you if you're a monogous man, when you find someone that you want to lock in on, are you monogamous at that? >> Oh, yes. 100%. I'm not cheating. >> You're not cheating. >> No, because I'm getting the woman that I want. I feel like men who cheat end up having to settle. You're not getting the person that you want. And I'm kind of vain, too. I believe in like levels, right? There are certain women can date me. You don't look good enough. You don't got enough going on. And I'm not I'm not selling with no woman like that, right? And there are certain people have to settle for their tax bracket or the their levels, right? Like there's certain men couldn't date you if they might. I don't know if you big on attraction or you big on more of the financial space, but women that got their own, they might not too much care about how much money got. They may be care about how physically attracted they are to you. They might care more about your intellect. They might care more about your energy or whatnot, right? And I just feel like if you have, especially as a man, I tell men, you should work on five things in your life. So when you present yourself to the marketplace, you're getting the best of the best physically, mentally, financially, and maturely, and emotionally. If you work on those areas of your life, when you present yourself to the marketplace, you're getting the best of the best. M. And >> so you're not really settling. >> So there's certain women that can't date you. >> Oh, for sure. >> Tell me about the women the women who can date you. >> Women that knows who they are, an insecure woman. I like a very like a calm woman. I like a woman who's raised by their mom and dad. Women that communicate, and women that got their own as well.

>> So, it matters what she brings to the table? >> Not really. It matters what you bring to the table for is her energy, her peace, >> her I I look at value because I don't care about how much money a girl makes >> cuz I don't need you paying for anything. I mean, it's cool if you reciprocate a dinner or something like that, but I care more about how you make me feel. >> I care more about your character, who you are as a human being, your foundation, your morals, the things that actually matters when you're dating people, but it creates longevity. I care more about that. >> The women that you're dating right now, they wouldn't be upset that you're on this show for the purposes of talking about dating. No, they won't be. >> The last significant relationship you were in, how long ago was that? >> Um, I would say about a year and a half ago. >> Mhm. >> And like I don't really I don't really talk too much about it, but currently I've been in a polygamy relationship before probably before. And it was the best [ __ ] ever. >> It was the best. >> Yeah, it was. And currently right now kind of like dating two people and they both know. So we be kicking it together. >> The three of you. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So hold on. Let me not get too far ahead. The last woman that was actually your woman that you claimed, y'all practiced polygamy. >> Oh, no. No. That was the last real monogous relationship. It was probably like two years ago. I'll say I'm going to say three years ago. >> Why did that end? >> Uh when it came out to Ashley, the girl ended up getting pregnant and I didn't want to be with her. I knew it wasn't long no longevity purposes. >> Hold on. She got pregnant by you. >> Yes. But this was after we had broke up. We had broke up like a month prior. Then she just happened to be pregnant. I'm like, "What?" >> No, you don't happen to be pregnant. >> I mean, I don't I don't know was it true or not, but she told me she was. So, you know, we had, you know, issue out a little couple dollars. >> So, you paid for her to have an abortion. >> Yeah. >> And then that was the end of the relationship. >> Yeah. Cuz we wasn't together. Like, it was crazy. We broke up and like a month later told me she was pregnant. So, I was just like, I'm not trying to like I don't have any kids. I wouldn't be married if I have children. I'm like, we're not in relationship no more and I don't want to bring a child into this world. >> Were y'all having unprotected sex? >> Yes, for sure. Do you think that we should think about that? Like, I don't want to have kids until marriage before the condom comes off. >> I mean, from a maturity standpoint, yes. Logically, yes. But when you love somebody, you care about them, you trying to you trying to got you trying to feel that. You're trying to feel everything. So, >> you're trying to feel everything. >> Yeah, man. If I'm rocking with you and you just the only person on dating, I mean, unprotected sexes, I mean, if y'all emotionally connected, y'all two just only having sex with each other, I don't see no reason not to. So, I'm grown enough to understand what you're saying. Yeah. Right. >> But I think >> But technically, should you wear protection while you're dating if you don't want to get somebody pregnant? Technically, yes. >> Well, and that's not even my concern. My thought goes to um do you stay around when real life happens? She got pregnant and you decided I don't want I don't want to have anything to do with this. >> So, I it wasn't technically like that. I it's still her by the end of the day, but we was we haven't broken up and both of us are moving on with our lives. So to bring a child into this world and it was honestly something we both agreed on. I don't think she probably wanted to but I'm like bro we're not together bro like this something she asked me I something I don't want to do and then you know kind of led to you know arguments and she she told me she was like well you going to pay for x y you got to give me this. I like all right cool. >> You paid for the abortion easily. Was it your first? >> That was my first. Mhm. >> Do you feel any way about it? No, not at all. >> Happy that it happened? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Have you spoken to her since? >> No. >> No interest? >> No. That was years ago. No. >> Years ago. Yeah.

>> So, now you're dating. >> Mhm. >> And you're dating multiple people. >> Is there one that's like the main girl? >> Like I told you, like if I'm completely honest with you, there's about like two girls I'm like I say, I'm dating like >> Oh, and y'all all together? So, they're equal? >> Yeah, it's about equal for sure. What could happen that could make you take either of them seriously? >> I mean, they both know about each other. We've been having sex together. So, it's like I mean, >> you want marriage? >> Yeah, for sure. And when when that when that happens, but for now, I'm really just having fun. >> Are either of them marriage potential for you? >> Possibly. >> Both of them or one of them? >> One could be. One could be. The other one is more like, you know, just it's just fun. They're we they just living their life is just honest and it just happen works and it's something that they want to do. >> So in this uh polygamous relationship >> Mhm. >> if the if either of them wanted to bring another man into the situation. >> Oh, it's not happening. >> Why not? >> Cuz I don't play that. >> It's fun. >> No, not for me. >> According to your relationship. >> Yeah. But >> you know there's double standards in this world. Okay. Ain't no man going for that. >> You're not going for it? >> No. Not at Well, if they don't want to be PY, but they just want to date other people, >> they can. They just won't be talking to me no more. It's rules. It's like, yo, we can have this situation, but anything outside of this, if you want to go do that, go, you know, go ahead. But I'm not talking to you anymore. >> So, you can date the two of them as a unit, >> but if one of them wants to go to dinner with whoever, it's over with. >> Yeah, for sure. Cuz there's no need to. Why? We date. We We go out, do whatever we want to do. >> But you don't want to be with them. >> I mean, I I leave it open now. Like I say, hey, you could do whatever you want to do, >> but just not keep me. >> Yeah. I'm just not going to be there because I feel like if I'm giving you my energy, I'm spending my money on you. I'm doing X, Y, and Z. There's no need for nothing else. And like I said, you give people will. One thing I feel like with men do, they take the choice away from a woman. But if you give a woman a choice and they choose to stay, at that point, then it doesn't matter. I gave you a choice. Hey, you can do these things, but I just won't be there. The same way you don't have to be here. Do you feel like your financial status gives you the right to have those kind of prerequisites or requirements? >> Yeah, money does play a part. >> Money plays a part because I'm sure at one point you've been broke in life before. >> Yeah, for sure. I've been broke a few times. >> And when you were broke >> Uhhuh. >> Were you talking like this? >> I always had confidence, but No, not really. I was too more focused on myself. >> Mhm. >> But I was just I was always honest. But far as like rules and stuff like that, too. I still had my own boundaries for myself. But when you got a little money, you can kind of like, you know, you can maneuver a little different. >> What's the difference between dating broke and dating wealthy? >> Because first off, ain't no woman falling in line with no man ain't got no money. They ain't providing, they ain't, you know, being generous. They're not doing that. >> So, when you're like dating broke or whatever, especially in a dynamic like that where they are both okay with, you know, having that dynamic with you, there's some money going to be involved. I'm just going to keep it 100. So, that's why they say certain things are rich man sport. >> I'm going on I'm going get nails done. And it ain't $200 no more. It's $500. You going shopping no more. It's not a $2,000. It's $5,000. You going on trips and vacation, you're paying for We're not talking about the normal $1,000. We talking about five. It's is it's double. So you got to have money for that. >> So you pay to play. >> Oh, for sure. >> So you're a trick. >> I will be if I like you enough. >> I feel like as a man in a woman's life, if I like you, first off, I'm going I'm only going to be that way if I find value in you. You have to make me feel a certain type of way for me to do that cuz I'm never leading with money. I'mma leave with my looks and my character, my personality. And therefore, when you meet these type of people, whatever, they're not coming at you with money. They're coming at you because I'm not, you don't know what kind of car I drive. I'm just walking into a restaurant. I'm just meet you out in public. You don't know nothing about me. You just like what you see, and I might say the right thing to you.

>> Do you value somebody admiring you for your financial status more than you do like genuine love? >> Oh, of course. I I definitely want genuine love. That's why I don't leave with money because money goes and every We live in Atlanta, Georgia, bro. It's plenty. >> You leave with money, I'm looking at you. You don't have to say, "Hey, I have money, but I'm looking at your wrist. I'm looking at your neck. I'm looking at your watch." >> Women who care about money. >> They've already calculated the value of what you're wearing. >> That's true. I can agree. That's that's that's anything I feel like I gonna say anything, but that is ter But I do this for me. I don't do this because a woman going to like me more. It's just my own aesthetics for myself that I like to dress nice. I like to wear nice things. I like to drive nice cars. That's something that I have for myself. So, I don't really But some people would say lean with money, but I also it's marketing for me too as well. Cuz the first thing people going to do is who are you? >> Exactly. >> So, but I'm I'm not telling you, hey, I got this much. Hey, I do X, Y, and Z. And this thing know, oh, I'm looking for somebody to do these things to do these things, too. So, that's why you see a lot of influencers. We flaunting the cars. We're flaunting the driven. Everywhere I go, people always ask me, "What do you do? Who are you?" >> Ty, how old are you? >> 37. >> You're 37 years old. And you do want children. You just didn't want it with the last young lady. >> You want to wait until you're married to have kids. >> When do you see yourself like settling down? Like, do you even look for that right now? >> I do cuz I do want kids one day. And I think I got to a place in my life where I'm ready. Mhm. But >> it got to just man, it's just got to be for me to give up my life. I have peace. I got a great tribe. I got a great village. >> Why everybody or why do so many >> Uhhuh. >> men think that in order to have a great relationship, you're trading love for peace. >> Cuz some women ain't peaceful. >> Well, don't choose that woman. >> Yeah. Yeah. I understand that, too. But I just feel like that for me to give up just being peace, somebody have to come in and be compatible to me. like just adding and I'm not talking about money wise just bringing me peace, creativity, you know, vision, covenant, just things that things that makes a successful and abundant relationship. Maybe it's the women that I choose. I haven't too much found that yet. >> Are you choosing like the IG baddies? >> Yeah, I ain't saying that, but I like a certain aesthetic of a woman because I'll be honest with you, like even when you know women in our field when I go to these events, I don't be attracted to these women. They don't they don't give me that. They don't give me that appeal that I want. >> Do you mean the other entrepreneur, successful women? >> Yeah, of course. But I'm looking at you. You're out of shape. You're not in the gym. Your titties tagging. Like I don't like stuff like that. I like >> Not all of them. I can think of several women. >> Not all of them, but the ones some of the ones I ran across, they just do not do it for me. They don't They don't give me It's like you can put me to You can put me beside another person, right? You can tell who got oral, who don't. >> Okay. >> So, it's And the thing about me, I'm big on sex appeal. Mhm. >> Cuz I'm vain. When I walk out with y' I want people looking like, "Damn, that she bad." >> That type of person now. >> I'm okay to say that. So, there are certain women that don't fit that aesthetic, >> the ones I personally met. >> Do you think that's going to matter to you in 20 years? >> Yes. Because I have a certain type of habits going to keep myself up and I'm going to make sure that woman has the same type of habits as I do. >> But gravity happens. >> Yeah. But hopefully the person that I meet is just like me. They just going to always just keep themselves up. >> Listen, your balls going to sag one day, one way or the other. And somebody >> if they got some surgery for it, I'm going to get [laughter] 100%. They got surgery for them. >> One way or the other, they're going to start sagging. Yeah. >> And so when you're looking at this aesthetic first, because you're very aesthetic first. To me, it makes sense why you would attract women that don't seem ideal for marriage. I let me tell you, I hate when people say that because my friends know I love a certain woman. You got to be thick as hell, fine, all that good stuff. They be like, "Oh, she got a BBL. She's not this person." That's not true. I met some great women that they just got a big butt and some big titties. >> But you just said the type of woman that I'm attracted to, I don't know if it's this woman that I'm attracted to. >> Yeah, but I'm talking Yes, I am attracted to those type of women, but I'm talking about women I'm not attracted to. But I'm saying though I people have the aesthetic that a woman that has BBL or looks a certain way or bird brains or or they don't offer this and I'll be like that's not true. >> Yeah. I don't agree with that. >> So that's what I'm saying when I I like that type of uh aesthetic. So when I do meet some of those women like that they have it but you know also you have a social media thing playing part. You women with two 300,000 followers they got social media they you know but I I don't been dealing with them women my whole life. So, I kind of know how to like, you know, channel that energy when they try to pop, you know, pop it a little bit. And we being a leader, I'm like, look, don't even I ain't care about none of that. >> Ty, would you say that you're shallow? >> I am. >> You are? >> Yes. Not going to lie. >> Do you think that being shallow is a solid foundation for anything real? >> I'm going say some people might agree, some people might not, but I know the type of life I want to live and I know the type of life I want to provide for my family. So, it's like I believe in like I feel like when you on this earth, you make certain decision to put you where you want to be in life. And I feel like as I'm growing, I'm made good decisions and I'm going to continue to make a good decision to put me in a place where I'm happy yet. >> So, some people may be okay with living in a in a two-bedroom, 2,000 foot house. I'm not okay with that. I want 10,000 ft. I want multiple cars. I want a nanny. I don't want my life to stop. >> I want to live as long as possible and healthy as possible. >> So, there are certain things I'm going to do. I'm going to take care of myself. Mhm. >> I'm going to spend the money to to make sure that I'm up the par >> and I'm going to make sure that when I have kids, they're going to be in the best schools. >> They're going to have the best they going to pan. I'm doing all the little fatherly stuff. So, >> with that with that um I gonna call it shallowess, but with that mindset, I want to provide a better life for the people that's in my life. >> Yeah. >> So, it keeps me grounded. It keeps me wanting more. >> And I ain't saying like, you know, it's always it's always more, but I definitely want another foundation. I think women and a woman and kids would appreciate that they're they have a man of their life who want to get them the best. I don't believe in nothing basic. Like I just feel like you choose with your choices the life you want to live. So I work out every day. Some people might lay in bed at 12:00. >> I might make more money than people do in a month in a day because what I do my daily habits or whatever, right? And I honestly that that shall make make me go harder cuz like I want to live like this. I want to do these certain things. But who you attract matters. >> Yes. Too. Let me put like this though. I'm going attract any type of woman. I'm going attract. >> But you're not choosing any type. >> I'm not choosing any type. But I made like I told you in the beginning, I presented myself a way. So when I present myself to the marketplace, I'm getting the best of the best >> to the marketplace is crazy. >> Yes. You got to >> But I understand what you got to understand. Why you put the product out there, if you want a good product, you don't want to have a certain demographic of people to buy that product. If you want to get rich, you want everybody to buy your product. So, you want to make that product appeal to, you know, whoever useful for. >> So, I'm looking at you and I said, you know, this is an attractive man. You're well dressed. You smell good. You're well put together. There's a woman who's looking at this and they're saying, "I like him." >> But it's a huge risk to date somebody like you because you are turned on by poly relationships, even if temporarily. >> I love women who like women. Okay. I love >> But I I don't think that people ask me this too. I don't really talk about this like you just got to know to know. >> Would I do this forever? Maybe not. But now it's funny. >> And I feel like if any man would, they could. >> Why would a good woman want you? >> I mean, what is a good woman? >> What is a good woman? >> Yeah. >> What do you qualify as a good woman? >> Exactly. >> Yeah. It's subjective. >> Some men might want a woman to come and cook and clean all. That's a good woman to them. That's not a good woman to me. >> What is a good woman to you? >> A good woman to me is somebody that adds value to me. that gives me creativity. I'm an entrepreneur. I'm always looking for ways to grow my business. I'm always looking for new ideas to go out here and create, right? I don't care about a woman cooking and clean. I got a somebody to come to my house and clean every week. I get a chef to come drop me meals off every week. So, I don't care about those things. And then again, I would get in the kitchen just on weekends. I would get in the kitchen. We all cook together. >> So, I don't mind doing those things. So, that wouldn't bring value to me. >> But it's the small things. Organization, >> creativity, >> creativity, organization, things that say like, right, somebody might go to a meeting, right? put my name in rooms that I'm not there in yet. Thinking, you know, thinking outside the box. >> Mhm. >> Uh more of like I ain't going to say an assistant, but more of that entrepreneurship mindset cuz we always in that mode of creating. We all in that mode of looking for, you know, adding value. To me, that's value to me. >> But physically, you prefer the BBL girl. >> I'm not going to just say BBL. Let me That's what you said. Yes. Let me say something out of this. I like the aesthetics of a woman. Sex appeal. And usually that comes with some nice bazookas on your chest. And you know, a little, you know, a little definition, a little projection in the back. I'm going say that way. It comes with that estate. That's what I like. >> So, you like southernfed girls. >> Yes, for sure. >> She's eating her cornbread. >> Definitely. >> And she gets her protein. >> Double up. >> She's doubled up. She's okay. She's got a lot to work with. >> For sure. >> If you are with this woman and tragedy occurs >> and she loses any of those things, are you committed? >> For sure. Because that point that's going to attract me. What's going to keep me is how you make me feel in your character. Cuz I feel like this. People always say, I'm like, "Bro, your first impression of a person is how they look. You don't know if they a god-fearing person. You don't know who they are. You But your first initial thing is I'm attracted to this person. Let me at least open up the doors to possible conversation." >> And at that point, you realize what type of person a person is by asking the right questions. So my f I don't care what nobody says. Your first thing is immediate attraction. Mhm. >> Like you just said, you look at somebody, they look good, they smell good, they seem like they well put together. I'm attracted to this person. Let me give them my number. >> So, if you could have the pick of the litter and all you require is an attractive woman. >> I didn't say that. >> You live in Atlanta. You said an attractive woman who's creative that can help with all the other aesthetics, >> but you're not really saying much. Like, it's not a whole lot of substance. >> I just say, listen, I did. I say value. I say somebody who's emotionally intelligent, somebody that's peaceful, somebody has uh they grew up with their mom and dad, a foundation. Okay, that's fair. You said that. >> But foundation, >> she grew up with her mom and dad. So, she does all these things, but she didn't grow up with her mom and dad. Deal breaker. >> Not really, cuz I'll be lying cuz I've dated people that didn't grow up like that. But you could tell the difference from a girl who had their dad in their life from a woman who you could definitely tell the difference from how they treat men. >> Peace. I think that's important. Peace is 100%. Are you peaceful? >> Very peaceful. I'll bring no problem. But you like girls who like girls. She doesn't like girls. >> It's not a complete turnoff, but I'm saying though, I hate to say this too. You've been doing a lot of stuff your whole life, man. I ain't going to lie, it's kind of like hard to not see things and undo the stuff that you've done. >> That's what I mean. >> So, you want peace, but with your preferences is like terror. >> But it ain't for everybody though. Ex, >> right? >> It ain't for everybody. There's some women and that's not I've dated women. They be like, "All right, Ty. I ain't n of that shit." >> And then what? >> I be like, "Cool. I don't be like turn off, but if I'm attracted to I'm still get to know you. You may be you may be five women in one. I don't know. Just because you mean but you know if somebody tell me you know woo woo might you know. Okay. >> So I'm asking I'm asking questions out of sincere curiosity. This is not judgment because I know many women who are into poly relationships too. And there's somebody who's watching this that says none of this that he's saying intimidates me. Yeah. >> I like it. I want it. >> Yeah. >> But it's it's the commitment piece. It's like the as long as you have these things, I'm interested. The moment that you don't, my question still becomes you're in Atlanta. You know, so many women like women out here. >> They do. I've come to find it out recently. >> Like this is not this is not an anomaly there. >> I'll just be like >> probably outnumbered. >> I met a girl yesterday. We was just talking. She some guy was trying to talk. She like he don't know. I don't even like guys like that. I like girls more. She just say to me random. I was like, "Oh, okay." So, a woman approaches [laughter] you and she says, "You know what, Ty? I feel you. You're really into the aesthetic. I'm really into the security. As long as you can continue to provide a lifestyle like this and I have Chanel every month, Birkin every quarter, I go where I want with my girls. You good with that?" >> No, not doing that. >> But you said you were trick. >> If the value was there, she's my girl. Yes. And is there But remind you. Oh, remind you. Yes. But if I'm a setting a woman to my life, that means I she already have met the prerequisites from being somebody that I want involved in my life. I'm never out. But yes, if I meet her and I like her because how she makes me feel, I'm one of them guys is depend on how you make me feel because I hate to say this, it's all it's beautiful women >> all around the world. And I don't been to hell of places around the world. It's beautiful women everywhere. But a beautiful woman with a good soul, >> with good character, that's hard to come by. So if I find that and I involve that into my life, oh yes, I'm doing whatever. >> So >> I'm the biggest. >> You said if I find that, which means in the situation that you're in right now where you're casually dating, those women can't possess those qualities. >> No, they they do. I'm not going to sit here and lie. They do. That's the reason why they're in my life. >> Well, what's the reason why they're not your wife? >> That's a good question. I don't know. Maybe it might be me. Maybe I ain't read them. Maybe I'm scared of maybe I'm scared to make that change in my life. I ask myself that all day. Like, dang, T. like you know what are you waiting for? You're not getting any younger. >> Mhm. >> So it's just like it's one of them situation where I just pray to God that you know whatever I'm looking for when I that when I feel it I maybe I ain't felt it yet. >> Maybe I'm feeling like enough to be like okay this cool for now. So, we're in Atlanta and David and I created this show because there are so many wealthy >> people >> and you know, wealth can be subjective to people, but there are so many highlevel six-fig earners and seven figure earners, eight figure earners. They're in our circle every single day. We live around them every single day. >> And when I'm having sidebar conversations, if me and you walked in Houston's together, we oh, come to my table. Let's sit. Let's have lunch. The conversation is usually, man, like I really want to find somebody. I really want love. But then we sit and have these conversations and it's like I know why this man is single. >> Yeah. >> Like I'm fully aware why this man is single. And so people think like, there's this bidding war for men and you know and all the things in these relationships. But the truth is you don't really know what you want. Or maybe you know what you want. You're just not ready for the commitment piece. That may be the case too. It's like some people even ask me like okay you I tie you're a very intelligent person. You know exactly what you want when you say I think all men know what they want. You have an idea about the type of woman you want. >> But are when that woman comes to you first off are you are you going to know are you going to be open to you know that type of energy that's coming from a woman too. There's some women I met I knew they probably could have been the one but the energy was given like all right Ty you got to stop all this. You got to can't do this. You can't do that. I'm not going for none of that. And I'm like, man, am I ready to like make like I don't feel like being in like, damn, I'm ready to go to jail to the point where I feel like my life is my decision is no longer my decision anymore. I got to consult with somebody before I make >> commitment feels like jail to you. >> I mean, for me to feel like I got to ask a woman and tell a woman where I'm going and what I'm about to do. >> Yes. >> That's not my wife yet. I just feel like as a man, bro, there's certain things I just can't do. I don't mind like for my your safety and your your security be like, "Hey, I'm about to go out with the fellas. I'm about to go this." That's cool. But I just can't, as a grown man, be checking in with no woman. I just can't do it. >> So, there's absolutely no sharing location with somebody who you're in an exclusive relationship with. >> No, I'm not sharing location with nobody but my family. >> Does she need to share her location with you? >> No, I don't care. I don't care. I don't try to One thing about me, I don't try to control no woman. I leave you to do whatever you want to do. I feel like when men control women, it's like if a woman want to if they love you and they want to be committed to, they're going to be committed to you. You don't got to put shackles on their feet, you don't have to put like, you know, bars on them and try to keep them at a certain place. People going to do what they want to do. And I never I never believe that you should try to control a person. >> Somebody on Instagram while we're live streaming this says he's not married because he doesn't need to be married. The options are optioning. Do you feel that way? I mean, there's definitely a lot of options cuz why? It's so many single women out here. I feel like this when I got female friends, right? I talk to them, they all looking for a certain type of guy. >> What kind of guy >> they looking for? Why you say the six feet, the six fact, the six, the six [laughter] this, the seven this. They all looking for something. But I'm I'm right here like [ __ ] >> How tall are you? >> Like 61. >> Okay. So, you meet it. So, if you meet the CR, they want 61 or they want six feet. Yeah. >> They want six figures that you say. What else do they want? >> They want a six-pack. I got that, too. >> You got that? They want six cars. >> I didn't worked out in the gym with you. I know you got that. >> Yeah, I got that. >> They want six cars. >> Got six cars. >> I legit got six cars. >> Why do you have a problem with women wanting those things if you are those things? >> That's why. So when you have those type of options for a woman coming to my life, you got to be a hell of a female to make me be like, okay, this is the one cuz I'm getting all these things done for me that even the things that don't need to be done is getting done. So if I if for me to give up what I'm doing to lack something well for me the woman she's probably not the most loving. She might not be the most affectionate. Why would I give that up when I can have all the affection that I want? Why would I give up a woman that I got to argue with every day when I got women who don't argue with me? They communicate. >> I mean you want children. So you want a woman who's going to be able to raise your children. >> That's the qualities that I would look for in a woman to raise my kids are those things. Are you a good mom? How is your character? How you when you under stress? How do you treat people when you're mad? So, I there's a certain level of things, like I said, qualities and aesthetics that I I got the aesthetics piece. And maybe I'm looking for this freaking mermaid or something. It might not exist. I don't know because I need the aesthetics. The aesthetics is going to allow me to look at my girl and think she the finest thing ever. And when I look at him, my dick get hard every time I look at her. That's how I want to look at my girl. >> I don't I don't want my girl looking, you know why I work out every day? I don't want my girl looking at another man saying, "Oh, look at his sick pack. See somebody like Carth and shit." she go her gazing at him. [laughter] So I'm like, I don't want that. So it's like I don't want no girl. I don't want my woman to see. I don't care what nobody say. If your man is not this person, bro, I'm going ask you this as a woman. >> Okay. >> Have you ever looked at a man and be like, and you was dating a guy that might not be as appealing and then somebody walk into the room 6'4, 26, 210, more so jewelry, just well groomed. You want to look at them? >> Yeah. I'mma look at men for the rest of my life. >> Understand it though. be committed to the one that I >> do you is is that commitment by choice or is that commitment by you know by it's something that you really want to do or it's by choice because y'all sign a piece of paper >> if I commit it was by choice like I don't feel desperate to be with anybody otherwise I'd be with all the people who want to be in the situation >> it's a reason why you're gorgeous very successful it's a reason why you are not married >> for sure >> so that means to tell me there's this certain guy here not you there's this certain guy here that you looking You can't put me in the hot seat. >> I'm not. But there's a certain This is about you. >> No. What I'm saying though, [laughter] this go to show there's a certain guy you're looking for. >> No. Yes. There is

A certain guy. There's a certain man that everybody's looking at, that every woman is looking for. Okay. Some men, too. But there's also a certain woman. I mean, you know what I mean? There's a certain woman that most men are looking for. Yes. But I think that I honestly think that relationships are failing at such a high rate right now because we are just looking for the wrong things.

Yeah, social media is one thing, 'cause everything is so accessible and there are so many options out here, especially living in Atlanta. Half these [ __ ] are gay, half the people got four, five kids, half the [ __ ] are broke, half are not intelligent, half of them can't teach a woman anything. So it's like, I feel like that's why a lot of women here are single because of those things that they find. Y'all hear all the time, I mean, the dude, he got this going on, this going on, he don't got this, or he, she want to work out, he don't go to the gym. It be all the stuff that I feel a man should work on.

Yeah. I mean, I think those things are important, but I also think it's important to consider how, how submitted a man or a woman is to God.

I, I think it's important to think about how willing they are to grow and evolve. Mhm.

I think it's important to judge a man by how many books they read or documentaries they watch, whichever one is your thing.

That's the foundation. That's the first thing I asked a mom. How many books have you read? And I judge a man by who his friends are. I judge you by the company that you keep because these are going to be the people who are either fighting to keep us together or fighting to tear you away.

Okay?

Like, it's more. Yes. Do I like the tall, attractive, wealthy man? I do.

Every woman does.

But who I want could be different than what I like. He could be that person, too. I feel like I'm, I'm honest to say this, too. I feel like I'm everything. I legit feel that way.

I'm, I'm probably also a thought.

Man, that's subjective, too. How, whoever wants to consider what's a thought is also a thought.

But look though, [laughter] I, I tell, I'm, and it's not being shot. It's being vain. It's being like, as a person, why if you can control, I can control this. So why would I let myself go? I can control my time. So why—

My body? Your appearance?

My appearance. I can control this. I can watch what I eat. I can work out every day. I control what I do with my time. I can go out here and party all day or I can work on my business and market all day. If I got control of my income, why would I not make, put myself in the best position possible? So, it's like that goes to show a level of discipline, too. I look at a woman, right?

I see what she does with her time. Okay, cool. And there's some women I see, I can see why you don't have this type of person because you're not this type of person. And I could see some of my friends, you want this caliber woman, bro, but you're not that guy.

10,000%. And that's what, that's what troubles me so much in dating because I think too many women are settling for men who are really not that guy. And it's gashed all up to think that you have all these options when really all she wants from you is money. And if that's what you want, if that's what you're okay with, get that too though. I tell people, get the money too. So if you want to have that, but at that point, if sometimes money is access, if I know that, just say if I want to have sex with a girl, right? I don't like her. She's just fine as hell. I got money. If I want to, it ain't, if I want to go take you out and say, "Hey, how much it cost?" That ain't for you. That's for me. So, I can get you out my face.

How much does what cost?

If I want to [ __ ] can I say that?

You say whatever you want.

Oh, yeah. I'm [laughter] like, "Hey, if I want to have sex, if I want to, you know, whatever." I don't like using that word. It's kind of bad. Mama, if you watching this, grandma's, you know, don't just podcast. [laughter] But, um, if I want to do that, you have money. You, you, you have money for that. So I feel like as a man, you supposed to give yourself options and then the option to say no, the option to say yes, and the option to have peace. And sometimes, I hate to say it, you got to have money 'cause some women, you can pay to leave you alone. And there's some women that don't care about that. Guess what? I'm coming with you with intellect. I'm coming at you with foundation.

You're coming to them with intellect.

Yes. 100%.

And foundation.

Foundation. Intellect. God-fearing. All the things that you—

You feel like you are a man of substance.

100%. I wouldn't be where I was if I wasn't.

Well, that's a man of hustle.

No, it takes discipline to look like this. I watch what I eat.

Jesus Christ.

I work out four times a week.

I know airheads who be in the gym every day.

Also, too, I'm a mentor for a living. I've created millionaires for a living. So, that takes a level of patience.

I agree with that.

It takes a level of discernment and it takes a level of wisdom, too, to meet somebody where they are and to take them to where they trying to go. You know, one of the, one of the most important things that I think that women probably, it ain't about the physical, it's because of my mind. 'Cause when I talk to women, I'm always talking to them about value. What are things you got going in your life? This is why I feel like I'm a win with any woman because, yeah, that stuff is already there. But when I talk to you and you realize that I'm like, can help you get to where you want to go. To me, I want to be used 100%. Use me.

Don't misuse me, but use me.

Tell us how to use you.

Use me. If you know I know how to fix credit and your credit score is a 640, please try to take me to 750. Okay?

If you're trying to start a business, you need $100,000 in capital and you know I can teach you how to get funding. Please, baby, can you help? I'm trying to start this business. I need $100,000. Can you help me, babe? I got you.

So when you come with those type of status, what woman don't want that? When you can teach a woman how to market. So those value, I feel—

I want a man who I know is coming home. I guarantee you the women out there, they like, "Oh, yeah." 'Cause they probably talking to guys right now who ain't never asked them about what they want to do with their life. And you come to where the problem, he be like, "Oh, that's what's up."

Those things are great. You definitely want a solution-driven man.

For sure.

But I think it's also important to have a, a man who you know is coming home to you at night.

A man who, if anything aesthetic about you changes, he still wants you. He still finds something sexy and attractive about you.

Character.

Yes. But you lead with the aesthetic. If she's not a baddie—

But that ain't even, I'm not even gonna know it or care while we're dating. If you going to have a car accident, I'm not gonna leave you. I'm gonna love you at this point. And I've been to a point where, okay, you get where it want me to be, you know, stuff starts happening or whatever. But I'm falling in love with you because of who you are.

Okay.

I'm attract, I'm, the initial approach is because of the aesthetics, but to carry this relationship months, months, it's because of you're a good person. I care about how you feel. I care about your, your, your actions. I care about your health. I care about those things.

That's the stuff that will keep me dating a woman for four, five, six, seven months or two a year or whatever it be.

Okay.

So, something happens though. I'm marrying a person. I fell in love with the character. I fell in love with the great human being this person is.

But in the out the gate, oh man, I need all that.

Did you tell me if you grew up in a two-parent household?

I did.

You did.

Mom, dad, mom, stepdad, and I moved with my grandma, my granddad when I was like 13. What's a relationship mistake that you know that you've made that you've learned from now?

Being vulnerable with a woman when you going through stuff.

Yeah. I never did it again.

Ever.

You'll never be vulnerable with a woman again?

Never in my life.

Well, do you think that maybe your emphasis on the BBL baddy could have anything to do with you not being able to be vulnerable with someone?

I don't, that was the case. I just feel like women get super emotional and they can't, some women can't control their emotions.

They can't.

There's, you know, that, that thing, there's a thin line between love and hate. That's a real thing. You only can hate somebody that you love. And the most dangerous person is the person close to you and the person that love you the most. Those are the most dangerous people to have in your life.

So if you, I'm logical of that.

I'm logical that you cannot control another human being's action. So with me being logical, I'm never going to give that person that kind of power over me when they can wake up any day and and flip the [ __ ] out.

Did that hurt you?

It did, 'cause it's something I told somebody out of confidence, out of just vulnerability, and you went back and like, it wasn't nothing crazy. But the fact they left your mouth 'cause I told you something out of vulnerability.

They told somebody else or they used it against you.

They told somebody else and kind of tried to use it against him. I'm looking like, okay, I ain't even get mad. I'm definitely not talking to you anymore.

Well, I think that's the character of that woman.

It might be. But I'm just saying though, logically speaking, we can't think theory. We're thinking logical. You can't control another person.

Okay. So, does that mean that you, you've cheated before in a relationship?

Not in a, not in a committed relationship. I never cheated.

You never cheat?

Never.

Do you believe that cheaters will always cheat or that people can change?

I think people can change because it depends on your growth level in life. There are certain things called growth and maturity. There's a lot of things that I did in my 20s I would never do now in my 30s or as I get older. I would never do those things. How to mature and that sometime that stuff come with, you know, uh consequences that sometimes you can't come back from. It comes from hurt. It hurts people. And you realize like as you get older, you realize the things in life that really matter. Relationships, your name, your character, those things matter. So, you just, there's business things that I've done I would never do at my age now because I realize like your face card is everything.

And I realized even with a woman, one, two things my grandma always told me, women don't forget what you did for them, how you made them feel.

1,000%. So, I'm very mindful of that 'cause you never know. You might, let's say somebody in my past, right? The 28-year-old Ty may not have fit the person you was now, too. But you could have been a great person. The 37-year-old Ty right now, I might go back and be like, damn, that was a good person. I just wasn't ready for them yet.

I mean, I might want to double back.

Is there somebody that you might want to double back on?

No.

Nobody. [clears throat]

There was nobody that you've ever been with that is worthy of a re—

Yes. There was this girl and we're still cool to this day. We've been friends for like nine years.

Mhm.

When I met her, I was young.

Mhm.

I wasn't ready for what she was ready to give me. A, she was a great woman. A great woman. She's married. I think she just got engaged right now, but one of the dopest women I ever met in my life.

You weren't ready for what she was ready to give you?

Yes. I wasn't ready.

What was that?

Love.

Okay.

Uh, peace. All the things a man would want in a woman. And I knew she had these things because I've been dating her for a year. We probably never argue. She was loving, had my back in every situation. A great person.

Is she the one who got away?

I ain't going to say she the one that got away because—

I just, maybe if I was like, I didn't have a, I, I don't think the mind I was in my hustles home at the time, right? So I wasn't trying to be cooped up with no woman. I'm trying to build my dreams. So she kind of met me at a bad time, too, where I wasn't thinking about a relationship 'cause like, babe, I can't, what you can do? I'm broke right now.

She like, you know, I got your back. I don't, I'm a man, babe, I got this if you know, if it meant to be, it meant to be, but I had to go out here and get this money.

But I did. She was a great person. I thank God for allowing me to experience that type of person that has now set the standard.

And I did. And I met her when I was like 28. And it set the standard for what I know I would want the mother of my child to to have. Those type aesthetics. Just that foundation, that love, that, that, that nurturing, that, that calmness, that speaks life into you, that stuff matters.

Mhm.

And I know what it looks like now.

So if, when I see that, I'm like, you know, bring on in a little bit, but I know what it doesn't look like, too.

Yeah.

She never, like, we never argue. She communicated. She like, okay, Ty, this happened. Let's talk about it. Why did you do these things?

It's something I can change.

And I was like, damn, babe. Like, you know, and it made me, it calmed me down. It put, I tell people, your words, the way you respond to somebody can either put a wall up for a woman or let it down.

Mhm.

And she was able to, and I tell people, our discipline and habits as a man is why women have guards up. If you lie to a woman all the time, she going to keep a guard up. If you hurt her and she's not emotionally secure, you're always lying to her, you're not going to get the best version of her 'cause she got to operate in her damn masculinity sometimes just to deal with you.

I learned that.

So now, like I said, I'm more mindful of those things, right? And now when I present that emotional security, intelligent, even the way I move, but if I'm honest with you, you ain't got nothing to worry about. I feel like this. There are single men out here who be lying that girl every day. Don't aren't generous. Riddle. Don't take a place. Don't give her no experience. I ain't teaching this [ __ ].

I'm coming at you straight honest. Hey, I got this going on. I got this going on. But I can help you do XYZ.

I can give you an experience.

I can be somebody that you could talk to and never leave my ears. You with this guy for two, I don't met girls that been had a guy for two years. They credit score 640.

They've been trying to start this business for two years and they only needed 20K. Why this [ __ ] ain't gave it to you? You think it's his role to do that?

Yes. If you're having sex with this woman and she's, you know, clawing you and doing all the things you want her to do, cook it for you.

Clawing you.

Yeah. I don't want to say the word.

What is that?

Like sucking you off. I mean, I'm just, I just like clawing you, you know, like just [laughter] mess around to say, but I don't want to use like vulgar language or whatnot, but I'm just saying doing all the things to you. Yes, it's your job to make sure that woman is straight.

At what point in the relationship is that your job? At the dating phase or—

When I realized that this is a good foundation. When I realized that this woman like me for me.

So I did an episode, you know, Princess, you flew with Princess and, um, I did an episode with her and she talked about how—

Um, she needs a man who makes what she really said if you watch the whole episode is that she needs a man who get to that back. Period. Right. And I—

She want that type of guy.

I was pressing like, well, what if it's just six figures? $100,000 isn't enough. And we did the math and she was saying that her bills were $7,000 and she wants a man who can afford to pay those things. And people, when I posted that clip, were in the comments that says, uh, men say, "If I got to pay for you to survive, why do I need you?"

Yeah. I'm never paying a woman bills unless we married. I'm never doing that. I will, like, I'm going to add value because what does me paying your bills? What did it do for me? You're not an asset to me at that point. You're a liability. What I will do is if you got a business idea and it makes sense to me, I will invest in something like that so you can become, I'm big, I'm big on it's my circle too. You got to be an asset to me 'cause I'm going to be an asset to you.

Well, what if she is an asset to you and during the dating process she's so much of an asset to you?

Why the hell you got $7,000 in bills in the first place? That's what I'm going to ask you.

Why not?

That means that you, to have that kind of bills, man, come on now. Have that kind of money in bills, you, you kind of already, I don't know what type of life you living to have $7,000 a month in bills as a female and like, I don't, let's say business expenses or something like that, that means that you somewhat of an entrepreneur. So I'm going to ask you too, why can't you afford to have, while you got that type of business, why can't you afford to keep it or afford to pay it yourself?

Well, it's not about affording to keep it, but do you think that in relationships, in the dating process?

Does a woman have to demonstrate her value to you as a potential wife?

Before you decide to become— 100%.

So, does a man not have to do the same thing?

I feel like if you got enough discernment, and when I say this too, you don't necessarily have to, like physically, I can, I ask the right questions. I, I'm looking, I'm very observant when I'm dating a woman. I'm looking at how she responds to things. I'm looking at how she treats me. Even the smallest things. I have, you know, people don't date now. The reason why I place so much value and I don't mind. I'm buying Chanel. I don't, I'm buying Chanel bags. I'm flying. I'm doing all that. Buying jewelry. That's the type person if I, if I rock with you. But I'm observing how you are. There's some women, they'll come in your crib, they might see you missing some dishwashing, certain things. They come back over, they got a bag with the stuff that you know that they see missing. I like stuff like that.

Mhm.

So, I'm observing things like that to be like, "Dang, it don't even have to cost. This cost $30 to do this stuff, too. But it takes, that means that I don't have to think about it. And these small things, I can use this time to continue making money."

You know, I find it interesting. Um, you said, "Hell no, I'm paying bills only for a woman that I'm married to." But you also said that you don't mind paying for stuff.

Yeah, I don't.

I find it interesting that you will buy a Chanel bag, which is easily five figures, pay for trips,

Which is easily five, depending on where you go, it could be a little six-figure investment.

Yeah.

The way that I perceive you like to travel,

You'll pay for that in the dating.

I ain't no travel, no, I ain't never spend that kind of money. We said—

You never went like to Italy and $1,000 and like went shopping?

I honestly think the most money I ever spent shopping probably like 30 grand.

Okay. So you go, you're flying Delta 1.

Yeah.

To Italy. No seat's 20 grand. Have I, I never been to Italy before.

Okay. Well, you're going to Italy now.

Okay. Just say if I was going now.

Those seats are $20,000.

Well, I'm going to say like this. I'm, I ain't, I ain't got to lie about anything. I'm not paying 20 grand [laughter] nowhere. Put me in premium. I ain't saying, tell that.

Okay. Those are 14 grand.

I'm cool with that.

14 grand.

I'm cool with that.

Shopping, you said you'll do 30. So, we're at $44,000. Okay.

Your hotel, you're in Italy, you got to be there for at least 7 days. Okay.

And you're doing at least $1,000 a night. Room at least. That's another seven grand. So, where are we at right now? We're at about $50,000 expenses. You're close enough. We have to eat.

Okay.

We have to sightsee. We have to do something.

I got to get some more money then 'cause I'm, my, the most I ever done for a weekend was like a 30 ball. That's—

Well, not a weekend. I'm saying seven days in Italy. You don't go to Italy for the weekend.

Oh, yeah. Oh, over time. Probably. So, but the longest I ever went somewhere,

I went to Japan. That was like 10, $15,000 probably spent. For clarity,

When—

I'm, I'm not being like, I don't go places and spend $100,000 on travel either, right?

Y'all about say, who the hell doing that?

I got friends who do.

There's different levels of t, there's a different levels of money out here, but I would never lie and say the max I ever spent traveling was about 30 grand.

Okay. $30,000. You are cool spending $30,000 to travel with experience, for an experience, but you wouldn't pay her rent, which is $2,500—

Every month? No, but sometimes, well, I might possibly.

So then you would pay a rent.

Yeah, but I, when you say every month, I'm not doing it. I'm not, okay. I'm not putting nobody on no monthly allowance. I'm not doing none of that. If that month I might have had a good month and I'm being extra generous. There you go, baby. I go a couple thousand dollars.

I have done that before.

Okay.

Or if I might go out, go shopping, I come back with some heels, uh, some shoes or something. Hey baby, you have been a good woman this month.

But what she needs is contribution to her expenses, not necessarily gifts.

I'm going be honest with you. I have been blessed enough to date women that got their own money. They don't, they be like, "I don't need you paying my bills." They will straight up and tell me, "I don't need you paying my bills."

Okay, so would you be attracted to the type of woman who may not be financially like up?

I don't care. Once I'm going to say this again, I don't care how much money you make. Okay, so now we're back to she may need some bills paid more than she needs the Chanel bag.

If she do, she will let me know. I'mma know that by dating her. I'mma know that.

So, and there are some people be like, "No, I'm not buying this for you because you just told me you needed marketing your business. I'm going to put this money toward ads." I have dated women like that that will tell me—

I could look and see that some things are going wrong in their business. We, you don't need to be going nowhere. You don't need this bag. You don't need these shoes. All right. Go hop on a call with my team. They going to get your stuff set up for you.

Mhm.

I'm placing, I'm placing my money and time where the value lies. And at the end of the day, reason why I would still buy those things because she's still a woman.

And women like gifts.

Women do like gifts.

Women likes things. It just is what it is, right? And I don't want her looking at another [ __ ] for it. I want another, and I'm dating women that I'm dating women like this that funny [ __ ] in their DMs.

Mhm.

So, my dog, you going to have to come a little bit harder than that.

So there's a little competition for you.

I love it. I love competition.

You like it?

I like it. Let me tell you why I like certain kind of women.

'Cause if you choose me, I ain't doing, I'm not Drake. I'm not about to be sending you 100,000 and sending 200. I'm not doing that. So I like women who dated those type of men. So I mean, when you like me, you like me for me. 'Cause I'm not, I'm not come out the gate like that.

So I mean, I want a woman who's already done all those things, who already experienced those things.

We know how to play those waiting games. We know men like you.

Yes. But there are some, there are some people that they, they already come out the gate like that. And I, and I, I got a homeboy, right? His girl left him.

Okay.

She thought the grass was greener.

Okay.

'Cause she had, she had just started to get a little, you know, get a little popular, get a little more money. So people start coming in her DMs, the athletes, the rappers. She went—

Mhm.

Realized that it wasn't what it was. 'Cause a dude was still, was a good dude. He had the thing, but she didn't, I don't think he probably went as flashy with it. He probably more, he was more in like investing his money. But he still had money though. He just ain't out here going taking her shopping every weekend.

She ain't want to rock with no more. Guess what? Came back seven months later like, "That was the worst mistake I ever made." She went for a look.

But that's what you do.

And then, but I'm still a good person, too, though. I'm not treating no woman bad. I'm not talking to you crazy. I'm not put my hands on you. I'm not calling you out your name. I'm not doing none of those things. So that's go to show you to that stereotyping. People might stereotype me. Oh, woo woo. But I'm probably one of the greatest human beings you'll ever meet in your life.

I don't disagree with that. So it's like that's why I tell people, don't ever judge a book by color. Do you know when I tell people I speak for a living, I'm a mentor. People come, oh, I hop out my car or whatever. I got jewelry on. Oh, you're a rapper. You this. I'm like, no, I'm not. Then when I tell them what I do, ought that. Well, you should ask before you just assume.

So when a woman asks you what you do, you're honest out of the gate about what you do.

Sometimes I say, man, I just say I'm just an entrepreneur. I don't be like, I do this, I do this, 'cause I don't, like you say, even though the appearance might give you that, but I just don't want a woman to like me for those things.

But you want to like a woman for those things.

I do, 'cause I'm a man. 'Cause I'm going to be the one spending the money, providing, doing all these things. I don't need you doing any of those things. So, I feel like—

No, but you need her to do the things that you need her to do.

Yes. Relationships are an exchange.

They are an exchange. But I'm a man. There's certain, there's certain burdens I'm going to take on. To me, I'm going to, you can't, you got to say this. As a man, you're going to take on more responsibilities and more of a, a burden than a woman is. So that makes my needs a little more, uh, placed a little more higher than yours.

Your needs as a man?

Yes.

Are greater than a woman's needs as a woman.

100%. 'Cause I'm taking on the burden of fighting this world along me being a black man. Yes. You're in—

Taking on the burden of supporting you doing those things. And based on what you said, you want, you want a woman who's out here getting to it. You don't, you're not talking to a stay-at-home woman. You're talking to a woman who's out there fighting and hustling and working and building.

Statistically, there's more men, there's more, there's more aesthetically pleasing women like you than successful men.

So, say that one more time.

Statistically, okay, there's less men like me and more women like that person.

So, the chance of you finding that type of guy, I ain't saying it ain't happen, but you ain't, they not just walking around her. They just not walking around here in Walmart. They not in Publix. They not.

But the chances of you, yes, there are so many aesthetically pleasing women.

Yes, we all can agree with—

The ones that you want.

I don't know.

They're not so many.

I can't say that until I get to—

Every single day who say there are tons of beautiful options, but beautiful options who come packaged the way that I need her packaged with substance. A beautiful woman who could raise my kids. A beautiful woman that I trust laying my head down with. A beautiful woman who could run the bank account.

Right. I agree with that. It's not a lot of them. I agree with that too. But I'm, I live in abundance, man. I don't, I'm not feeling putting in the universe and say those type of women don't exist. I feel like they walking around. I just got to meet them because it's women get married all day. So there's a reason why they're married. Some great man find this woman that they want to spend the rest of their life with. So I'm putting that energy into—

I believe that. I, I also don't buy into the concept. Like I don't, it doesn't scare me that there are more beautiful women than there are successful men.

Why don't you? Why should it scare me?

I ain't gonna say it don't scare you, but it doesn't place like a little, like you feel like you have to do a little more.

Never.

So, you don't care about this man walking away because you might not be as aesthetically pleasing as you want or you may not be as freaky as you want him to be.

Am I worried about that?

Yeah.

For what?

I mean, 'cause it's like, okay, if satisfying this man.

Okay. So if, if there, if there were a man that I was dealing with who I wasn't aesthetically pleasing enough for, I can't change the aesthetic.

Leave. If there were a man that I wasn't freaky enough for, there are certain things that I'm just absolutely not willing to do. If what I do ain't enough,

Yeah.

You probably need to go ahead and go.

You get what I'm saying? So, am I worried about losing a man because I'm not enough for him?

No. For what?

So would you go? Okay. Also too, women say they do, they'll do things for the person that they love that they normally wouldn't do to please that person.

So if you feel like based, if you feel like based on who you are is not enough, you weren't willing to go the extra mile with somebody want to spend the rest of your life with.

If I am, if I—

Am not enough for you, I am the wrong woman for you.

That's, I can't agree with that.

No. Then you don't agree.

Coming out the box, you may not be enough. Let people do things for people that they love just to make them happy.

Like what?

I don't know. They may just go the extra mile. They may deal with a little more—

Get fillers and Botox and 'cause you said aesthetically pleasing.

Okay. Just everything women don't want.

You want me to start? You should start liking women because my man wants a woman who wants women. Never going to happen.

I'm not saying you. But there are, there are women—

Who would do a little more than with with the guy that they actually love and want to spend the rest of their life with to make him happy. Absolutely. I think what a little more is in context is important.

Am I going to change the way I look because this man doesn't find me beautiful? Absolutely.

You might not, but women do, though.

Well, and I, and I think there's something wrong with that.

I think it's something wrong with somebody who says, "You know what? He wants a big butt. Let me go get a woman for him."

Guess what though? If a woman tells me I'm getting fat, what should I be like? Leave or should I be like, "Let me go to the gym."

You changed into something that they don't want. Now, I do think that there's a significant responsibility in maintaining what you showed up as, right? So, I'm gonna be fine forever. And whoever think I am thinks I am. Whoever doesn't think I am not, I'm not for you. But I'm going to be fine forever. And so, if I get into a relationship with you and present like this and then I gain 100 pounds, not because of a medical reason, but because I just let myself go, there's a problem with that. And if I want to keep the relationship, I'm in the gym 1,000%. But if who I show up as isn't enough for you and it's like, you know what, babe? I've been dating you, but you could put on like another 20 pounds for me because that's what I want. It's not gonna happen.

Yeah. I don't think nobody coming out the gate is going to change for somebody 'cause I'm not. Some people might not like they might hate me. Oh, I would never like you, Ty. Okay, I'm not the person for you.

And there are some people, oh god, Ty, I love the way you are.

Yeah.

And they, I'm cool with that, too. So, I get what you said out the box. But I also feel when you start to really like somebody, I don't even dealt with, put up with things that I normally wouldn't put up with because I love somebody before. And I can, and I know people do it. I think I'll be the last person—

To deal with certain things. But when you love somebody, bro,

You put up with certain things, man. Like—

You, you'll be like, man, this, she's this, but you love her so much. And there's a reason why you might love this woman.

Yeah.

So, I do feel like people been the rules for people that they love.

Oh, 10,000%. It's just like all these prerequisites and needs and this whole list that people have. You have a list until you meet somebody who's not on that list that you really like.

Yeah. I, I do believe people have a list till you fall in love. Bro, that list might go in love. That list might go out the window.

This, and this, and then you meet, you meet somebody who you say, you know what, I met a real one and she's not really what I thought—

I would normally go for, but I love her.

I don't, I don't dated a woman like that. Normally I wouldn't go for her, but I end, I, I love that girl.

And it's just like women, yeah.

Say he has to make this, do that, look like this.

But if I ask you to show me pictures of all the guys that you've slept with,

They don't, none of that look like that.

It's somebody in there that's not that.

Yeah.

Like, is it? And so we all bend. And I just think like the whole idea is to present high. I hate the term high value.

Yeah, I hate that term too, man. Is people think high value. I feel like value is how you, it ain't about money. Value is about how you show up as a person.

I agree. Who you are.

Yeah. Who you are as a person. That's your value. Are you a man of your word?

Are you a man of character? Are you a man of God? When I say I'm a high value man, I'm not talking about a dollar amount. The dollar amount is just access. The dollar amount is is energy because of it's a reflection of what I chose to do with my life.

Yeah.

I know some high value men that are out of shape,

Dumb as [ __ ]

Mhm.

Do not go to church, but they make a lot of money. That don't make them high value. But a man who shows up—

Well, those people wouldn't be high value to me. And I think high value—

Society. But yeah, society. Oh, it's a high value man, he made six figures. I'm like, no, it's not.

That's a high earning man.

Yeah. A high earning man. Will say that. A high value—

When you look up the word value, it literally places like who you are. Like I said, who you are as a person, your spirituality, your emotional intelligence, your, uh, leadership, and I, uh, accountability, emotional regulation, emotionally int, all those words we and phrases we throw around, but that actually what makes you value. That's going to, those things are going to bring a person peace.

Yeah.

Leadership is going to give woman direction.

Leadership is going to give people to respect you a certain way. Physically, people only treat you for how you treat yourself.

So if you want somebody to respect you, respect yourself first.

Yeah. I just think sometimes we have these. I think sometimes we spend our prime years looking for the wrong things. And I speak to so many high earning men—

That society would label high value—

Who, like yourself, you're chasing—

Certain things that at 80 years old, it won't matter. At 70 years old, it won't matter. And men who think like this typically aren't like they say, "Oh, women who when they age, they're washed up. You're not as valuable. You're not as this." And we could also say, well, men, now you want to be single and you want the value when it, when you're looking for a nurse. When your blood pressure is high, when your knees don't work the way they used to, when the balls do start sagging, when erectile dysfunction starts to present itself, when you're not as fine as you used to be, when business has taken a turn, like now you want, now you want somebody with some core character skills, some core character development.

That's why you, that's why I'm, I always preach on that. You got to have that. You got to have those core values. So when these things, and nine time out of 10, when you get older, things are going to happen. You're going to get old. Yeah. Nine out of 10, especially in the black community, you're going to have some type of chronic illness. You're not taking care of yourself.

So those qualities that I already— It's one thing about life, man. One thing about being intelligent and having wisdom. You know, there are certain things that you cannot live, live life without. You just can't. There's a certain person you feel, you know, looks will not, you ain't marrying somebody for the looks.

You're not marrying because she fine. To be the mother of your kids. You're not marrying a woman for that. Oh, I know that as a, as a wise man.

But as, as does that play a part in me on being physically attracted to you? 100%.

But I know that we're both going to get old together.

Yes.

And I'm, we, me and her look at our pictures like, damn, baby, we was fine as hell in our 30s and 40s.

And hopefully that, you know, we have the same type of, you know, habits and compatibility that we're going to stay as youthful as possible. There's peptides. There's reverse aging.

Yeah. There's [laughter] reverse aging. There's surgery. And I'm, and you know, if we have those same type of aesthetics that we both want to like live long, play with our kids long. I'm going to know that when I, when I dig deep, understand who you are.

You can't predict what the future holds for you.

You can't predict it. You can't predict it, but you can, sometimes you can control a lot of things in your life. You can control—

For sure.

I feel like this. You can control. When, when I see people get into unfortunate situations, why the hell you driving drunk to even increase your life? You just increase your chances of dying by you getting in in a car doing 100 miles an hour.

But imagine your girl was the girl who was hit by the drunk driver.

I understand that.

Who was just living her life.

I understand that too. I definitely understand that. That does happen.

But I, there's a lot of things I feel like we have control over. Like I'm not going, I'm not going back to my hometown and go to the club with my friends that I grew up with. I'm not doing that. Why? Because they don't have nothing to lose. So why would I put myself in an environment? So I, I think, I think that a lot of people leave things to chance because they don't, they're not a driver of their life, right? There are certain things I feel like is not going to happen to me—

That would may be a risk of somebody else. I'm just a put myself in that situation for it to even happen.

What are you willing to sacrifice for a woman?

That's a good question.

I ain't sacrificing nothing.

Get out of here. It's over with. [laughter] I'm not sacrificing anything, man. I'm just not.

You're not sacrificing anything?

No. 'Cause I feel like I don't feel like it's a sacrifice 'cause it's like if it's good for me, it's not a sacrifice for me if it's good for me. It's like people be like chasing your dreams. It's a sacrifice. What can? It's not hurting you to chase your dreams to live a better life. It's not a sacrifice. So I don't look at it. When I tell you that I got you, it's not a sacrifice giving something up that's good for me. Maybe this woman prays for me and some habits that I have. If I know these habits are bad for me and a woman's praying for me to give that up, I'm, I'mma give it up because I know it's not good for me. So, I don't like to say sacrifice 'cause I don't want to. I think I'm the one of the greatest people.

In the world. People say I don't feel like the reason why I say I don't feel like I need improvement because I'm wise enough to...

You don't, you don't feel like you need improvement.

No, no. When I say that, there's some men when they say that though, right? Wise. I'm wise enough to take it in, to not be against it.

Mhm. So I would never say that people who be like, "Oh, I'm never going to change. I'm never going to say that." But I'm wise enough to know if it makes sense for me to change, I'm going to do it.

So I feel like that I'm coming to you the best of the best. I'm going tell you why. If I ain't the best, I'm going to work on getting there. If a woman tell me, "Ty, you got [ __ ] up character in this way." I'mma work on that. Thank you for telling me. I love character development.

I love, I love high stressful situations 'cause I'm learning. I'm adapting. I love personal development. So the reason if I ain't the greatest person now, I will be 'cause I'm never going to stop learning. I'm never going to stop growing. And I love taking accountability as a man. And I feel like that's what makes a man a real man. Like, and especially when you come to dating a woman, bro. Like I want my woman to have everything. I don't want her looking at another man for nothing. I don't want her going to sleep at night wishing she could have had this big ass house. Maybe got the biggest house on the block.

I just, I think like that. So, I see a few red flags.

Tell me, please.

Oh my god. There's, we'd be here for another hour.

[laughter]

Tell me. I need to know.

We'd be here for another hour. So, I think it's a huge red flag when we say things like, "I don't feel like I need improvement."

I, I think it's a huge red flag when we say things like, "I don't feel like I have to sacrifice." I understand in theory what you're trying to say, like, "If this is good for me, am I really giving up anything?" But, but yes, you are. Like, you are. So, for example...

Sacrifice, that word seems like, "Oh, God, I'm about to get crucified." I don't like that sacrifice word when it's something good for you. I just hate when people say that.

Well, if I can give you an example...

I, uh, I have a daughter. And when I broke off my engagement, I'm now a single mom, or a mom who's single. My daughter had such a difficult time with that transition that I decided to sacrifice my dating life to be a good mom because I felt like that's what was required.

Okay.

She had this fear of like her father, a couple of years after we broke up, he moved on, he got married. And she felt like she would no longer, it would no longer just be us. And so I promised her, it's just me and you for as long as you need it. And that ended up being, you know, until, well, until she was in high school. So, you know, people think that they know why you're single and why you live a certain life. But I feel like I sacrificed my dating life for my daughter. I also feel like once I went through a season of losing everything and built a lot and then lost it all, I felt like in order to become stable again, I sacrificed a dating life and even time with friends to focus on building a business.

Yes, these were the better things for you.

About to say, there were the better things for you.

Could I have figured out how to do both? Could I have been a little selfish?

What's more important to you? Love or your dreams?

Love is a dream.

Okay. Financial security or love?

Both. Like...

Love do not bring to financial security. Both people need each other.

We were, we were designed to love. Like, if, if you follow God and his word, like, we, we were designed in love and to love.

So...

Do I...

In a season, in the season where I was struggling and lost everything and couldn't afford to feed my kid.

Okay.

In that season, financial security was most important to me.

In the season that I am in now, financial security is important. Love is also important. Financial security is not as important because you have a level of security. So that...

Well, I think we're only one economy crash away from, you know what I mean?

But comparative, statistically speaking, logically, you make, you make, you're considered a...

Don't tell everybody my business.

I'm not, but you're considered...

[laughter]

A, you know, a high earning individual person.

We're not talking about the 50,000, 70,000. We're talking about somebody who's well over six and seven figures.

Yeah. You, you don't need, you don't place that financial security as a higher tax bracket. I mean, as a priority of life as somebody who's chasing this thing. You're now want that, that life cycle. You want that completeness now. You're looking for love. You're looking for family now too because wealth is family. Wealth is love. So if you can't say I want to live a wealthy and abundant life if you don't have love, financial security, and family, to me, and I tell my friends this too. I like, bro, don't, don't, you might be more happy than me. Your success may, you might not, you don't have to make millions of dollars, multi, you don't have to do all that, right? Guess what? You get to call your wife every day. You get to call me your kids, they running and jumping. I've seen these things. I'll be like, "Me too." I agree.

I like, bro, you got it, bro. He like, "Hell no, bro, you got this." I'm like, "Bro, I'm by myself. You see the cars, all this stuff too, but bro, you're coming home to a woman that loves your dirty draws."

You go home to two women who love your dirty draws.

Yeah. I mean, it is fun, not gonna lie. But listen, it's different from, we're talking about marriage and kids now. You can't compare that.

[laughter]

But I told them, that's success. I said, "Bro, you're successful. Your wife loved you. You got a roof over your head. You can feed your kids and your kids are happy, bro."

That's like, that's real love. That's real success to me. So, I think...

I think it, to me, I place that higher than, than, than the money, bro. Because there's rich people who are lonely. There's rich people who kill themselves because they don't have love.

And there are wealthy men like you...

Who are with the baddest, most desirable women.

Yes. 100%.

Who are lonely, who do not have love, who have nothing but beauty as a partner.

I ain't dating them kind of women. I'm, that's them empty women. I'm not dating no end. You ain't about to, you know, I'm happy all the time. You ain't about to kill my vibes. I'm dating very fun, loving women. Ain't everybody don't come to you allo. But let me tell you how I feel. I have enough. My cup is running over. What guys say? I don't mind porn. I've been, and one thing I learned, I think I get that patience from being an entrepreneur and being a mentor because you're meeting people that's coming, that's starting out in the beginning, they don't understand the basic things of entrepreneurship. So that level of patience, and sometimes it be a bad thing. I should have walked away from a lot of situations that wasn't good for me, but you know what? T got all the patient in the world. I'm going to work with you. I see that. I see this.

That's the part that's hard for me to believe.

Why?

T got all the patience in the world. Does this man strike you as a man that's going to be patient and work with you during your shortcomings?

He does.

Absolutely.

Thank you. See, have a welcome spirit.

Y'all let me know in the comments. Does this man strike you as the man who is so patient that he's willing to work with this woman through her shortcomings?

Let me tell you. Let me tell you why I say that. 'Cause I, I, I grew up poor, right? I grew up not having, you know, we all started from somewhere. People had patience with me. And I feel like that God blesses you. God's, when God give you wisdom, he give you all this knowledge or whatever, it's your job to go bless other people. I grew up in a church. I, my grandmother's is a preach, as a preacher.

Then this one thing she instilled in me. I use, my grandma told me if you stay in this house, you going to go to church. I went to vacation Bible school every Wednesday. I went to Sunday school, church anniversary, chron, every Sunday. I'm talk like 16 years old.

And that foundation instilled in me that godly, like stuff. And it was always my grandma always taught me, have patience, faith, see things through. When you don't even see it's possible, right? So, I think that character of myself allows me to be patient with people. That's why I think I'm a great mentor because I understand you don't know these things, right? And I feel like this, too. If I bring a woman to my life, man...

I feel like that, why would I, I want you to leave better than what I left you 'cause it makes me feel good as a man.

Yeah.

And walk around me feeling like King Tuk. Oh, yeah. We ain't work out, but she good now.

'Cause like I, it makes me feel good as a king, bro. Like, yeah. So, and it make, I can walk around popping my [ __ ] because this woman will never forget. This woman will never forget what I did for her.

So, I feel like if a man, if you leave a woman less than what she start messing with you with, it's time, bro. She just gave you her time. She just gave some of her best years to you and you didn't add no value to her. That don't make me feel manly. To me, you should feel weak as a man. You should be like, you should feel like a little, like a little the B-word.

Okay. You're very strong-minded, very strong-willed. And I honestly don't think...

You're bad. I think that you're risky.

If my friend said, "Ty, you trying to holler at me." What you think?

I, girl, I don't know. Just...

To be cautious.

Proceed with caution. That is exactly what I would say. You give and you posture with all of this confidence. What's your biggest insecurity in relationships?

I said my biggest insecurity.

Watch. She says, "I don't have none."

Oh, man. I'll be honest with you. If I say I had an insecurity, what would that be in a relationship? I don't know, bro. 'Cause I don't feel like I'm checking the boxes. I ain't gonna lie. I'm giving you...

I think you're perfect.

I don't think I'm perfect. But if, but that's the perfect doesn't exist. I'm not perfect.

But I'm willing to work on the things that I lack in.

Okay. But that I can have an insecurity and be aware of it and say that I'm willing to work on it. But that doesn't mean that...

I wasn't always this size. I used to be skinny and I was insecure about being skinny 'cause I feel like as a man, you need to have some meat on your bones.

You were hella skinny when I met you.

Yes, I was. I'm not gonna lie, bro. Like, and guess what I'm thinking about? I'm thinking like, man, I can't be this person here. Look, you know, nice, look good, this and this and this. I'm, I'm walking around look like a little boy. So, guess what I did? Start eating. Got my ass in the gym. Now I'm going good now.

But that wasn't insecurity. It was insec. What is the insecurity today?

The insecurity today is making sure I have a foundation I never fall off of. Security. I don't ever want to like experience what I experienced when I lost everything. So if any...

But that ain't really a relationship though. That's just my own personal standards for myself.

Mhm. In a relationship?

I don't know.

What can make you insecure?

When you were skinny, you didn't feel like...

Oh, yeah. 'Cause I ain't gonna lie. I'm like, damn, man. She might go see this big buff smile like Corithian.

So what makes...

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Like, "Oh, bro, I look, you gazing your eyes over there. Let me get in the gym, man. So take my shirt off."

You feel like she might not see me in the highest light because of this?

Okay, let me just say this, too, because I need you to help me figure out this. Okay, if I feel like I don't got the most money, but I got a, I got more than the average person. I ain't got to be the finest, but I look good. I got nice body. I'm a great person. I got a great tribe. I got a great family. I got great friends. Okay. Very resourceful.

Okay.

I'm an animal in the bedroom.

Okay.

So, I mean, I dress nice. I, I can talk to you about God. I can help you with your business. I can teach you how to make money. I can be calm. I don't mind getting in the kitchen. I be cooking with chicks. I don't mind. Let's get in, baby. Let's get in the kitchen and and get on TikTok and make some meals. I'm fun. I'm loving.

Okay.

What I mean, what else would a woman want? I'm just curious. What, what box I'm not checking off? Was asking. When she walk into the room and she looking good. I'm, I'm, I'm taking her there. Like I'm, I'm like that.

You're taking her there.

I'm like that for sure.

So, what could you be missing?

Um, you could, you could be missing the piece where that woman feels secure with you.

Honesty.

Yes. Honesty, but also...

Reassurance.

Reassurance. But I can also see based on the things that you said were your standard. I can see you making a woman feel like she's not good enough for you. I have been told it before.

Yeah.

I have.

So, and that's that would be big for me. You could be all those things, but if you make me feel like I'm not good enough,

it's a problem. If I were one of those women that you were dating and you were on this show talking about they got to be aesthetically this and the baddy and I might look at myself and say, "Well, when the next younger, prettier, better body girl..."

Somebody to work on. Somebody told me that recently. They was like, "Ty, it's, I love everything about you, but..."

It made me feel like it's something more you probably would though.

And I was like, "I make you feel that way?"

She was like, "It's not, it's just who you are as a person." So, that made me something I need to work on. So, I asked her, I was like, "Yo..."

What do I do that makes you feel that way?

So that I don't like make you feel that way?

And I don't know if it's just my natural character or maybe things that I say and saying it unwarrantedly.

So, there's some things I would like to improve. I don't do that. That's the second time I heard that.

And um...

That's a good pickup, Donnie.

Yeah. I mean, you don't have to do much to pick that up from you.

Oh,

you, you put it out here. That, but also I think that there could be a bit more humility.

Okay.

Um...

I can't say that. I'm probably the most humblest person in the world. Kar humble. I don't do a lot. What you think?

No, it's just honest opinion. Honest opinion, bro. You think I'm humble?

Somebody on Instagram said it. Oh my god. Humility is lacking.

If anybody know me on there and know me personally, answer that question.

Like...

Yeah. But...

I understand.

So, because you know we don't hang out. I don't have like a super personal relationship with you. So I don't know. But I do know that in this conversation, the way you present is that, um, you are the most top tier and you know it. And there are no challenges with you. There is no sacrifice with you. There are no perfections. I check all your boxes. What could possibly be wrong with me?

You have to show me how you measure up. And I get it because I think we both do that. I think women feel like...

Women do the same way when you talk.

You got to show me exactly why you measure up. But I don't know that I would say that. I think that I would learn that more than I would say it, right? Um, but I think that, I think humility is is lacking. And I don't know that when you ask me the question, I do this, I check this box, this box, this box. I think the security of knowing that my guy is not going to go for the new shiny object is more valuable than all those things that you listed. I feel like as a woman, you should be more skillful so a man don't got to leave you. I'm big on, I feel like a lot of...

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Reason why people, they lack women lack skills. Women lack skills. It's the truth. They lack skills.

Lord, did you just say I feel like a, I feel like as a woman, you should be more skillful so that a man will not leave.

Yeah. Some women don't lack skills. Some women aren't nurturing. Some women don't have a certain skills to be able to keep certain men. I 100% believe that's why men cheat and that's why men aren't, they get a divorce. That's why divorce rate so high 'cause they miss something. Divorce rate ain't, don't yell at me.

Divorces are mostly initiated by women.

I, I can't, I can't speak on that 'cause I don't. Okay, so that mean the man lack skills too. Somebody lacking skills, whether it's the man or the woman.

A lot of people are lacking skills, but not just in what it takes to keep. I think we're lacking the skill set to pick the right person.

Yeah. Character. That's why I need to teach a dating class.

You need to teach, teach a dating class?

For sure. I'm going to tell people what to look for in men and women.

I just, men are weak. There's a lot of men out here are very weak and they don't, and a woman don't want to follow them. So, I feel like you don't present leadership qualities and I feel like there's a lot of clashing relationships because this woman doing what the hell she wants, saying talking crazy to the man 'cause she don't respect him. And I feel like it's a reason why this man is not respected. He lacks certain skills as a man.

I feel like he picked that woman. Well, me personally, I'm not pick the woman I consider my wife or somebody I want to be with. I pray to God that I have enough discernment and enough wisdom to make sure that I, like my discernment to make sure that I'm asking the right questions to make sure that I'm observing these things. And like you saying though, sometimes you don't got to speak, you just see by a person's habits.

You don't feel like there's anything about you that needs improvement?

I ain't say that. Now...

You did say that. You said exactly that.

But if, if I don't, okay. Okay. If I did say that, if I did...

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Say that, if I did say that, I'm going to say I don't mind. I love improving. So, if something's wrong about myself, I'm going to fix it.

Mhm.

So, I don't look at it saying like, let me, let me take that back. I don't want, you know, people eat me up. Oh, you...

No. Everybody, it's...

Over with.

Yes. But listen though...

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No right man in their mind going to say there's no room for improvement. That means I'll be stuck at where I'm at for the rest of my life. Like...

You know what's crazy?

That's not. We know that. It's not. There is a woman that's watching this right now.

Uhhuh.

That says, "I got to have him."

Mhm. Might be...

As perfect as I have.

Mommy.

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As perfect as he's saying that I have to be. Somebody literally just commented at the same time. He's a perfectionist. Somebody is saying, "I want the challenge of him." And ladies, that's half y'all's problem. You're seeing this man and you're saying, "I can get him. I can tame him. I can, I can change him. I'mma be the best person she ever met in her life. The best. I promise you. We're going to be living a life, traveling the world, making money, doing all the cool [ __ ] and everybody be looking at us like, I want to be like them."

When's your birthday?

February the 18th.

Was that a Pisces?

Aquarius.

Aquarius man. I no longer believe in these things.

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I'm a woman of, I'm a woman of scripture now. So, I don't, I don't believe in these things. But what I used to believe about Aquarius men, ladies, stands true. I want to ask you some questions. What you would prefer?

Okay.

All right. Would you rather be deeply loved or deeply understood?

Deeply understood. Don't love me. Respect me. Understand me.

I've heard that before.

Yeah. Love is man. You can love somebody still disrespect them. You can love somebody and not, you can just love them but not give them the things they need to be happy.

I want to be happy. Damn love.

Respect me. Be loyal.

Can't you be happy and love?

I want both. But we know this or that.

You're right.

Yeah. I, I, I'll take respect and loyalty over love.

Okay. Um...

Killing people.

Would you rather live a life or would you rather be in a relationship that was total honesty...

Or just not know and you feel like there's honesty?

Honesty. Tell me the truth. I want to know what's in your soul.

Your heart. That's who you are. Your character is your heart. Be honest with me. Okay. Forgive cheating once or immediately end the relationship?

Immediately ended. I'm out of there. I would never look at you the same. You don't let somebody else touch that box. I'm straight. I'm straight. I would never look at you the same again.

Okay. Marry your best friend or your greatest romantic love?

Best friend.

Really?

For sure.

Why?

'Cause man, that friend. 'Cause if I always told marry your best friend because it don't seem like a relationship. It's like your best friend. Y'all can talk about anything. When I marry somebody, I want, I want to talk about everything. I don't care what it is. I want to just be calm, baby. This happened, X, Y, and Z. I don't want to hold nothing back from her. I want to tell everything about me. I want to be like, "Let me tell you this."

I'll let you finish.

No, go ahead.

So, this is philosophy I have, right? When kids, br kids, we all can agree, kids are the most loving people in this world.

And forgiving.

They and forgiving. Why? Because they haven't gone through life to put these mechanisms up. They haven't been through the hurt, the trauma to develop a wild look so they can operate with it. Right.

Yeah. So I tell a woman when I meet you, listen baby, let's get back to our childlike state where we just peel the layers back of ourselves and love each other unconditionally because we haven't been hurt. I need somebody to understand that level of love that we most people would never, never experience that level of love because everybody's afraid to peel that onion back to drop that wall that they, most people have to have this wall up in order to cope with people. You have to because you, that's what makes people secure. Like, you put your hand on the hot stove right now, you know when you was younger, you put, you didn't know it was hot till you touched it. So now you get close to a fire, let me back 'cause I did this when I was younger, right? But what if you meet somebody and y'all get back to...

Nothing. Y'all would never hurt before. Imagine what that love would feel like.

When y'all could just love each other unconditionally. Tell each other your darkest secrets, your dreams, your passion, your ambition, the bad things. Imagine that type of love. That's the type of love I want to experience.

You believe in unconditional love?

Yes, I do. But they have to understand that this has to happen in order for us to experience that next level of love. But most people aren't, because everybody's going, they're not going to tear that wall down.

Earlier you said that you would never be vulnerable with a woman again.

That's not unconditional love.

I'mma... You know what? I can still be that way, but I ain't got to tell you something that could probably make me. I don't want to be weak as a man in certain things though, too. But I can still operate with optimal love and just keep certain things that makes me a man, a man. Keep that within myself. I feel all men still be a man because at the end of the day, you can love somebody to death, bro. But I just feel like, I say, man, bro, you just got to keep certain stuff to yourself, but you can still love unconditionally.

Isn't that a large reason or a large contributing factor for men's mental health issues?

Yes, but get you a therapist. I have a therapist. I don't got to tell my girl everything. I'm going to talk to my therapist. I just think men who, who hoard emotions in, I think them the [ __ ] that like probably, you know, still have that stuff inside of them. I have a therapist 'cause you need one in business. You need one relationship. I have family. I got the same stuff everybody else got going on. I need a therapist to talk to. If not, I'll be done jumping off a bridge 'cause I go through stuff like everybody else do.

I feel like that is my outlet. I don't want my woman to be worried about what I'm going through.

Yeah.

I want her to look at me as her king and savior. I don't feel as a man, to me, you don't show no signs of weakness. I was taught that by my grandad and my granddad. Don't be weak as a man. No weakness.

A 10 that you can be completely vulnerable with?

I'm never...

A 10.

A 10 aesthetically.

I'm not just 'cause she LOOK GOOD. I'M NOT ABOUT to be...

Listen. Listen. I said it wrong.

A 10 that you absolutely cannot be vulnerable with...

Or a seven who has proven that she is a soft place and safe.

Seven. I can make it look like a 10.

So you do want to be vulnerable.

I do, but as a man, I probably won't be 'cause I just feel like it's weak, bro. And I think a woman going, she like, "He a man. He going to handle it." I want you look at me, no matter the damn house can be burned down. Babe, don't worry about it. I go put the fire out. You just sit in here and take care of the kids. I'm just, I was raised like that as being a man.

And that was a mistake I made for being. I would never do [ __ ] again.

I, in my mind...

And I could be completely unrealistic.

But I want a man who feels safe being vulnerable with me.

I want a man who can tell me his deepest, darkest secrets.

And you're not going to judge him?

I don't.

How you know you're not going to judge him?

I haven't.

What if he told you he was he used to be gay?

Over with.

But you just judged him. So he just lost his relationship.

No, that's not my man. That's...

But, but no. Uhuh. Uhuh. Uhuh. You just said you want a man to tell you his deeper, darkest, darkest secrets. Tell you, you going to judge him?

Also, before we get to a place where you could even share and expose these deepest, darkest secrets, I'm going to let you know that I want a heterosexual man. And if you've ever been penetrated,

you are not a heterosexual man.

Okay?

I don't care what healing process you went through.

What if he never told you but you wanted to be most vulnerable? What if he, you know...

Well, if he's lying about it, there's nothing I can do about that. But if he like, breaks down and he's like, "My soul says I got to tell you that I've received penis in..."

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Anus. I am not going to be mean to him. I am not going to demonize or weaponize his issue and I am not going to, um, invalidate his experience. But he can't be with me.

Okay. But also, I'm going to feel disrespected.

Imagine a lawyer relationship. That could have been a hip pay.

In the beginning part of the process, I ask, "Have you only ever been interested in women?" That is a dealbreaker for me.

And so now that means that you've been dishonest. And so we're really ending the relationship not because you've taken penis in the anus, but it's because you've been dishonest.

Okay, that makes sense. Okay. It was okay. Now it's like, you're not a truthful person.

Now you're not a truthful person.

But like, I, I get what you're saying. But as me though, I just feel like, just as a man, bro, like, we, I just was raised differently. Like being, having two real men in your life, like hand it all. Like give me, I want all the problems.

And that's why men have such a high level of strokes and high blood pressure.

I agree. 'Cause sometimes I be so stressed, my head start hurting.

Yes. It does. My head be hurting. I be like, "Bro..."

I want my man to be like, I want a man. I literally wrote this down. So I did this episode. I was interviewed on the Dear Future Wifey podcast, or actually, no, he was on my podcast at this time.

And I talked about how I have a list of 92 things.

That sounds ridiculous, right?

92. God dang.

92. But the things that are on my list have nothing to do with superficial needs.

Mhm.

Things that are on my list are things like, I want a man who is excited to come home to me.

You ever lived with somebody?

No.

Okay. Well, there are people who have been in relationships that go home and sit in their driveway for hours because they dread who's on the other side of that door.

That's why you w, you marry your best friend. You got to worry about that.

Okay. On my list is also, I want a man that I can talk to about everything.

I also want a man that feels like he can talk to me about everything. I can only speak for me.

Okay.

I have never weaponized someone's trauma. I've never weaponized somebody's issues. I've never used it against them. I have used it to understand them.

Even if it's repetitive?

It depends on what it is. Just to let them know like, "Hey, now this is why you're like this. Have you..." It's a repetitive action. Like, if it's repetitive...

Well, yeah. If there's some healing that needs to happen, like if you're telling me about something that you experienced years ago and you're over it, but like you don't do those things anymore, but it still impacts you some kind of way, like I'm not using that. But if you tell me like, "Hey, Donnie, like I really want to be with you, but I'm a sex addict and meeting you, I've decided that I don't want to be a sex addict anymore." And then you go out there and you become, you're a sex addict. I'm going be like, "NIG GIRL, THIS WHY THIS IS WHY I'M LEAVING YOU. This is why this is never going to work." So, yes, if you are continuously and repeatedly doing things that are harmful to us, to me, or to you...

I am going to...

Talk to you about those things. Not say...

"This is why you're stupid, blah, d, and the." But it's going to be like, look, like we got to talk about this. How long do you want to continue to to live like this or be like this or do these things? Yes. Part of loving people is having hard conversations.

Yeah. I agree. I agree. Last question. This or that. A partner who challenges you or one who accepts you exactly as you are?

Challenges me because I want to grow.

Challenge me in what way? Relationship wise? Challenge me in business? How are they challenging me?

Challenge you. Period. She sees an area where she needs to push back a little.

Okay.

And the strong parts of her kicks in where she's comfortable having a hard conversation with you.

I like me a woman like that. Challenge me.

You like an alpha woman?

Yes.

They say word on the street, word in these podcast streets are that men like you don't like strong alpha women.

No, I love me alpha woman.

Huh?

I love them.

Well, isn't that contradictory to what you guys are saying in the streets? You like...

Yes.

An alpha woman. I interviewed another guy who, uh, a while back, said he too likes an alpha woman.

This is completely contradictory to what the internet is saying.

Mhm.

Some people, I don't want no heart. I'm like, bro, to me, a alpha woman is someone that doesn't need as much direction.

'Cause I feel like, think about this, it's time.

If you already have these leadership qualities, if you already have these things, we can focus on the bigger picture.

So, there's certain alpha women that already understand, they get it, they understand the game.

So, now we can take both our wisdom and go to the next level. If you meet somebody that's trying to go there, that has the same aspirations as you, right? I feel like men who say they don't want that. I feel like they aspirations and they don't understand that, uh, maybe they're trying, they're not trying to get to that next level in life. They okay with where they are. So they won't, they don't want an alpha female trying to challenge them to go do more. They may be okay with this woman that's, "Hey baby, come in from work. You know, they don't care about if how you look physically. They don't care about if y'all can't pay your credit card bill and the money. They might not care about those things."

Mhm.

That alpha woman is someone that, guess what? As a man, if I'm out here challenging the world, creating, making money, and the alpha woman come home, I'm, she be like, "Okay, T, these are the dinner plans I made. We're going to be here at 8:00. We're going to be, we got to be here at 8. Somebody's coming to take us here, X, Y, and Z. It's already done." Instead of a man come out here working hard, doing all this thing, making all the money, paying the bill, got to come and steal and figure out what we about to eat.

Well, that's not necessarily an alpha woman, but that is a nurturing woman. A nurturing woman, but a woman that, that, that kind of gets it, that doesn't need as much direction, that doesn't need like to be always told what to do. They're a creator. You're alpha female because you operate in business a certain way. So, a man ain't got to tell you what to do when you see things lacking.

No, a man doesn't have to tell me what to do when I see things lacking, but I do want a man who I don't have to be an alpha woman with.

Also, too, there's areas for that. There's a time and a place for she needs, but you're going to recognize that when there's a time and a place where, okay, I see my significant other doing X, Y, and Z, you know, there's a time for you. Okay, I'm seeing what he's doing. I'm seeing what's going on. He's not hiding anything from me. He needs a little help in this area to, you know, so we can continue moving. You're going to recognize that and you're going to fill that void.

A woman that's not an alpha female is not going to fill that void.

And a man got to do all this stuff here too and come in and fill that void.

I don't want no woman like. So, I think when a lot of people in culture think about what an alpha man or woman is, I think that sometimes we are incorrectly using these terms.

I think so too. People say alpha person like, bro, what does that mean? As a woman, what does that mean? I want an alpha male or I don't want this. Tell me what that means to you.

So, I think in dating, it means a person who knows what they want.

I agree with that.

I think it means a person who is assertive.

100%. I think it means that they're a person who's not looking for validation to be exactly who they are. I think those are things that make you, uh, alpha. When you value respect more than partnership.

Um, but values make the partnership, if that makes sense.

Oo, I like that.

What part?

Values make the, uh, the relationship.

That's what I mean. The value, you just say, you can just say what I meant. I said earlier, day, the value was what's going to make the relationship last.

And I also would go a step further to say that an alpha person is more intolerant to dealing with lack of trust issues, cheating, dishonesty. They're more intolerant to deal with those things.

I want a woman to hold me accountable. Alpha female would definitely hold you accountable in areas you lack in. And to me, if you want to grow, you want somebody to not accept you who they are. I want a woman who knows who she is. And don't, I don't want you to allow me to treat you a certain way. I want you to have enough, uh, respect for yourself to have standards for yourself.

100%.

So, it's like when you, I like women like that. That means you ain't, you ain't let nobody play with you, even outside of me.

Mhm.

I won't know my woman. She going to stand on her own because she won't even play with me like that.

Yeah.

So, I know ain't no other man in the street about play with her like that.

Then I ain't going to try her like that. So, that's why aesthetically, I like those type of women for those reasons.

Okay. That, that makes, that makes a little bit of sense.

It makes all the sense, Donnie.

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You make all the sense.

There's that lack of humility again. There's that area of opportunity. And it's okay. It's just an area of opportunity. But what I think is an area of opportunity, somebody's watching this right now and they're saying, "That's my man."

You know how you said, "I don't see competition like it's over with." Oh, you got something to do. It's over with. This right here. Somebody's looking and saying, "I understand that he's currently dating two women together as a package."

But I heard him say that he wants a monogamous relationship. I heard him say that his grandmother was a preacher, a pastor. I heard him say that he was raised right in a good Christian family.

And I'm going to be the one to make him realize that I am the only woman that he wants.

Tell them where to find you.

Y'all can find me on Instagram at WB Bernie. WBBR ne. And I just started streaming too at the kick at WB Bernie.

You're a streamer?

Oh, I just started.

Are you streaming your dates?

I'm about to.

So, you meet somebody today, a new person. You're streaming the first date.

I'mma ask okay with it, too. But I'm letting people know, hey, if you come around me, you about to be on camera.

Close me out. Paint a perfect picture of the first date for me that you're planning.

The first date, I'm going send you a vehicle. It's gonna be some flowers in there. If I like, I'm, I'm put this. The woman I like, oh, I like her. I gotta do the most. Truck flowers. We, I, I'm older, so I like R&B music, right? So, I'm going to go to listen some good R&B music. We going, we gonna eat good, have a little wine, take some shots of Tito's, and we just gonna talk. I just want to talk. I don't want to talk over no live ass music. I want some good energy, good vibes. I don't want to be nowhere where a whole bunch of stuff going on. So that'll be my perfect date. Just us to talk.

You're talking in the truck?

No, we're talking once we get to where we are. Some good jazz music playing where it's super low and we're just going to talk to get to know each other.

Okay. Is there a limit to like what you won't do on a first date?

As far as, uh, me, amount of money I'm gonna spend?

Sure. If I, I, I had this one experience where I spent a lot of, but I met this girl. I was in Vegas. I never, a couple years ago. I met this girl and during brunch and I think I was in the area, man. We literally stopped by each other. Started talking finally. She was cool as hell. We left. I went to the pool. Spent the whole day with her.

Had the time of my life.

And I did, uh, I think I bought her some, uh, BGA shoes or some [ __ ]. I think I did. I went to the mall buying some. I said, "You want something?" She was like, "No, you don't got to give me no get it." I think I did that.

What if she wants church to be the first date?

I love going to church.

You do?

I just went to church this past Sunday.

Did you? Yep. Had to go. What church did you go to?

I went to Word of Faith. I go to church sometimes and I go to Word of Faith, but I love the Lord.

I grew up in Word.

I used to sing. I used to sing in church. I know I play piano.

Let me hear you sing something.

I'm not gonna sing anything now.

Come on. Something. Just give me a little one, two.

Just a little.

I might have lost it, though. It's...

Okay. Show me what you saying this song. Come on, Mr. Confidence. Top tier.

Let me see. What's a good church song I used to sing? Okay.

Um, cooling water from grandma's well, you know.

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Little something, man. Little something.

Old school.

Yeah, man. Come on. I grew up in a Baptist church, man. So, I used to, you know, lead little songs in the choir and stuff like that.

Listen, I'mma get it out of you. I would like to see you go on a first date to church.

I don't been on. That's, that's normal.

That's normal.

Yeah.

First date.

Oh, not the first date. I ain't going to sit here and say that now, but I, I always ask a girl like, "Hey, we going to church next Sunday." I should get married. I just told this girl, uh, this past Sunday. I said, "We're going to church next Sunday." She said, "Okay, I like that for you."

Like, I need, I need to make sure that you know them heals come at you.

Lord, start praying over. You remember that exorcism when they were throwing water on, all the stuff start coming out. I need to make sure that devil le get on up out of there.

You know, it's, this is probably a dangerous opinion to have, but I think deep down...

You want to do the right thing.

I always want to do the right thing.

No.

What am I doing wrong? We talked about the areas of opportunity for growth.

Okay.

I think, I think, I think what you say and what you do are a little different.

Okay.

I think a woman can get her hands on you and you could potentially be a really good catch for somebody.

Okay.

But you have to, I don't, I, I can't tell you what you have to do.

Okay. But you could consider...

What you say from your experience and your outlook on life.

From, from my outlook on life...

Leave the extra relationship affairs alone.

Okay.

We don't care about women who like women. Like these things are at after a certain age and after you have accumulated enough to lose, these things become liabilities.

I agree.

Huge risks.

And also it could be not a liability too. More the better. Double the fun, double the money.

This has been another episode of the exit interview. You guys have heard me sit down and talk to Ty Bernie in this episode. Please drop it in the comments what you think about this man. I believe there's a glimmer of hope. I think that, uh, he, I think you're datable. I think you're datable.

I'm datable. I think I'm dating.

But I think he also has a bunch of red flags. I'll leave you guys to figure it out. Let me know if you want to, you know, put one too. I can hit him on the phone and push y'all together. Ty, thank you for being here.

No problem, man. No problem.

All right. I cannot.