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All right, Big Mike, thank you for being here, brother. I'm excited to see what you got to say. Uh, do you want to say what's up to the people?
What's up, everybody? Big Mike here. Um, happy to be here with my boy, the legend Camel Finance. Big Mike, do you want to give us, I don't know, maybe two to five minutes of background on how you became the most the most bullish Elliot waiver I've ever seen in my entire life, to be frank.
Uh, yeah. So, um, you know, I I started with just doing, uh, TA, uh, like 2017 or so, 2016. And then I, uh, you know, I had a job at the time. I was like a, a chef, almost a chef, more like a manager, trying to be a chef. And, uh, I was doing that on the side. And um, you know, I I didn't really understand a lot about how the market worked and I didn't understand why, uh, you know, it goes up and down and sometimes it's sideways and I made a lot of mistakes. I would, you know, I would chase candles and I would get, I would sell, you know, if I saw, if I went long and I seen a, uh, a red candle, I'd get scared immediately and sell. I blew up, you know, an account or two in the beginning with options. I didn't do much with crypto. And then, um, you know, I I started to find out about Bitcoin in like that time frame, like 2017 as well. And, uh, you know, I I just basically held spot, went long, held spot and, um, uh, bought a couple of Bitcoin, uh, some some ETH and all that and I rode it all the way up and rode it all the way back down in the in that bare market right before 2020 and, um, was just very sick to my stomach from that experience. Because I had like 300 Ethereum and I watched it go to like $1,500 and then drop all the way back down to like $100 and I was like, you know, what the [ __ ] going on? So, I watched my account basically go from almost like 800,000 back to like whatever it was, 100,000, maybe even less. It might have been like 70,000 or something. So, uh, you know, it was plenty of heartache and depression and, uh, I got very sick, you know, wanting to vomit a few times and just being like, uh, [ __ ] this. I'm not going to I'm not going to do this.
Um, but then I just kind of like stayed with it because I'm a bit stubborn. I don't give up. And, uh, I found, uh, an Elliot wave group. Uh, I'm not going to mention his name. He's pretty famous now, but at the time he was, uh, he was just becoming like very popular. He was starting to blow up because he had called the bare market. And I remember just thinking, how the hell did he do that? You know, like that was amazing to me that he he called every like from all the way I was watching him. I was following, he called it all the way from the top. At that time, Bitcoin had run to like 20K and he called it all the way back down to the bottom. And, uh, I just thought that was amazing. And I was like, "This guy's like a freaking Oracle or something." And I know that at the time I didn't know what Elliott wave was, but I knew that's what he was doing. So I joined his group and I I paid to sub to his group for like two and a half years, maybe three years. And I read the book by Frosten Preer, uh, Elliott wave theory and, uh, it took me a while, you know, I I made a lot of mistakes and I couldn't really figure it out. Uh, but eventually after like reading it maybe four or five times, I started it started to click and, uh, you know, I started to get pretty good at it right around, uh, 2021, you know, and then into 2022-ish. I I learned a lot in that bare market and then, you know, um, came out very bullish, uh, somewhere in like towards the end of 2022. I started coming out bullish. But I was waiting for some, you know, uh, I was basically thinking maybe we would go to like 10K on Bitcoin, but we never did. Uh, we got down close to like 15 or 16. And, uh, there's another guy I follow on, uh, on, uh, X. His name is Mr. Power Bullock. I call him Master Splinter because he's also extremely very good at Elliott wave theory. And he was saying you couldn't go below 15 and that would keep this structure in place. So I started like checking my accounts against his and basically I said that was, you know, that's probably was the bottom. And then sometime in February became bullish in 2022 and February and I've just been been bullish and, uh, working my skills with Elliott wave ever since. Um, so that's that's my backstory basically.
Nice. Nice. So do you do you have it all memorized? Do you have all the the rules and the nuances memorized or do you sometimes have to go back to that that book and like reference stuff?
I do go back to the book, but not that much anymore. Um, you know, uh, in the book, chapters one and two are really the chapter. If you if you read through the book, it even tells you in the beginning, um, if you don't want to get too technical with the Fibonacci ratios and, uh, and you don't want to go through all the because they lay out a bunch of different charts from the Dow Jones, you know, uh, going back to the Great Depression. So if you don't if you don't want to get into all the technical stuff, you can just read chapter one and two, mostly chapter two because chapter two goes through, uh, the corrections in very good detail. So I will breeze through chapter two. It's like, uh, you know, 30 something pages maybe. I sometimes I'll just breeze through it if I got nothing to do. Um, but, you know, for the most part, I feel like I got most of it memorized. Um, every it seems like every time I I miss something, like, um, like I'm I basically I missed the correction in, uh, in, uh, in March with around OPEX. So every time I make a mistake and I miss something, I'll go back and I'll read I'll read through chapter two. And I did do that. And I had noticed that they, um, the authors had mentioned in chapter some part of chapter 2 that do yourself a favor and keep an hourly chart up at all times and always count the hourly chart and then reference it back to the higher time frame. So I made that change basically I would say April of this year. Sorry. I got I got two dogs and they like to hump each other and steal each other's bones. Yeah. So, I, uh, yeah. So, I made that change and, uh, I've been I've been pretty pretty successful since then since April just watching the lower time frame. It's a lot more work because you have to you have to think a little bit differently. It's kind of hard to explain because when you count the higher time frame, you can you can ex you can extend the swings out and you can see a larger part of the cycle. So that's important as well. But on the lower time frame, things change very quickly and corrections develop longer. Like if you're on a 30 minute, you could see like an ABC develop on the 30 minute and you might think to yourself, "Oh [ __ ] that was the correction." But then it develops into another B wave and sometimes the B wave overshoots the top of whatever, like let's say it's a three on the lower time frame and we're in a four and it does ABC, then the B wave comes and you're impulsive. You're like, "Wow, that looks impulsive." Um, but it overshoots the top of the A. So it gets you like feeling like, "Yep, that was it. Correction's over." Turns into, um, like a running flat or an expanded flat and then you're like, "Oh [ __ ] now there's now I gotta look down and I gotta fib it out and I gotta see where this correction is going. Maybe it's going lower than I thought. Now I got to see if I can get five waves to count a C because a flat will be three ABC down, three ABC up B, and then five C. So, it's just like you have to you just have to be really quick and and and ready to pivot like when you're on the lower time frame. But, it's been it's been good. I really like it. Yeah.
So, I was going to ask actually because something you seem extremely good at is pivoting, right? And so, I was going to ask does that just come from sticking to your system? Does that come from having like hard invalidations or is that something you had to train through like psychological type books or something like that?
Uh, I think probably just practicing and knowing that that the crypto is 24/7 and it's it moves these the lower time frame moves very quickly and knowing that, you know, I'm probably going to be wrong before I'm right, you know. And I I enjoy I enjoy when I'm right the whole time. It really it's like it's like an ego boost. I'm like, "Yeah, I'm the man." You know, and sometimes I get a little bit cocky on X about it. Um, but, you know, it's it's like you really when you're on the lower time frame and you're watching this thing develop and and this happened so many times, I'm like, "That's it. I nailed it." And then it turns into a deeper correction. I'm like, you know, [ __ ] you know, uh, [ __ ] that that now we're going down again. So, I have to pivot. And, uh, I noticed like reply guys, I don't think they understand it like you like as well as you and me. A lot of the reply guys will be like, "You're flip-flopping, you're you know, you're uh I can't take this. One minute you're bullish, one minute you're bearish." But it's it's just the nature of the lower time frame because the lower time frame is constantly doing that. You know, it's it's constantly going up and down and and and, you know, the bias is changing so quickly. So, I I try to put up like three-day charts and weekly charts to remind my followers that I'm still very bullish, even though, you know, I was saying I want ETH down to 4,300 for a while. And people were getting upset with me. And I was just like, well, you know, here's the three-day chart. I think we're going to 6,300 and then I think we're going to 7,200 just to kind of calm them down. I don't know. Yeah.
I call it um strong opinions weakly held. And I think that's like such a good way to describe it. You've got to have conviction in your idea, but you've got to be ready to give it up. And you are right. The reply guys the reply guys do not like that. They want to be basically spoonfed. They want to be uh have their hands held and be told like it's going up or it's going down or whatever. And they don't like the the pivot in. But yeah, in this game you've got to be willing to abandon your idea and move on because the market if it's going to move on is going to do that with or without you, right? So yeah. That's super cool.
They don't get it. No, they don't. They don't. Um, but we probably didn't when we first started either, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's It's true. It's like it it's it's complicated. I don't feel like I don't know how you are, but I don't feel like you know, um it like at if I look back at that time and I I say to myself, wow, like how how really I had no idea like completely no idea when I first started to to where it is now, you know. Yeah. And it's amazing that the longer you do it, like you become more and more fluent over time. And that's been something that I really I think that's what's kept me in it so much was like I love to win at a game that is designed for me to lose at. But I also love the fact that like there is no ceiling for the skill set, right? Or for experience. Like every year you're here, you learn something. Every time something weird happens like the tariff tantrum, you can like at times like I married that up to, um, the taper tantrum in 2018. It was very similar to that I felt. But there were times when like it's nothing like that, like the yen carry trade unwind, like that was just another one. And I was like, "Oh, I don't think I've ever seen anything like that before." And and, uh, yeah, I just love the way like it's constantly developing. There's always something new to learn. There's always something new to develop on. And yeah, I just, I don't know, man. Like the love of the game is is unlike anything else.
Yeah, you developed that like you said with the with the yen carry trade and the tar and the carry, uh, the tariffs was, you know, it was show the yen carry trade showed up on the 10-year and the two-year inversion because the 10-year and two-year uninverted after about almost two years of being inverted. And, you know, if you're not watching the bond market and you don't understand that this inversion means something's, you know, and if you don't understand that the inversion itself, uh, was not the scary part. The scary part is when it uninverts. So all these like little.
Can you actually that might be a nice way, can you pull up a 10-year yield because I know I think we're both in agreement here that the yields are going lower. So have you got a have you got a yield chart too or a 10-year you can show us?
This is a 10-year versus a three-month, but I have the 10-year. Rate cuts definitely support this theory, right? I mean, I I was honestly I was getting scared about that one, bro. Like, I was like, "Holy [ __ ] if this is an inverted head and shoulders, man, we're going to we're going to 7%." I was like, "Fuck me." You know, what what does that mean? That's not good. So, thank God it looks like that's not going to happen. So, do you have us I take it you have us moving lower, three, four, and five to come. Have you got a downside target?
Well, this is a fib, uh, this is a fib retracement here in in the in the pink, basically fibbing out this, uh, ending, uh, leading diagonal for, uh, this move. And it's really hard to to count a 10-year in Elliott wave. It's it really is not easy at all. So, and I just I have changed this chart a lot. I'm not going to deny that. This chart has changed a few times. Um, so I've got this line right here is resistance, which used to be some type of lower time frame inverted head and shoulders. And I think what, you know, this this yellow line right here marked off at 298 is is some major, uh, support and resistance. So I think it's definitely coming back down here. And my my gut is it'll probably break through that. And if this is a wave two, if this is a wave one, we started a wave one. If this is a wave two, it can come way down here because the rules of Elliott wave is you can test the two to one less degree. So it could be this two. I don't think it would be this two because this is the two of this one, but this two is up for grabs. You know, honestly, I don't I don't think it's going to do that. I think there's a higher probability. It's a it might be an ABC. This is the A and we're doing the C and this is high time frame B. And then we might do another C. But I I can't be sure until, you know, the only way I can say if it's a two or a, uh, or a B. Um, would be how deep it goes. Like the 50%. Um, a lot of Elliott wave guys would say that satisfies the rules of the two, and it does, but I've noticed more often than not, a bounce off the 50 is likely a B, not a two. We get down here to the 618, now we start getting into that two, and I could say, okay, this was a one, this is a two, and then we can do a three and go much higher. So, first of all, I would say we're we're I think 3% is definitely in the cards for the next big move down, especially once they get into cutting 25, 50 basis points and and if it turns into some type of runaway recession, uh, and it's just like rates just nuke, you know, then the three could really accelerate to who knows where. That's been my base case. My base case is that we're going to go towards zero because the printing isn't even going to work unless we're at or near zero. So, I think we're going to have to be we're going to have to be down around one and a half or less, I think, for the if I'm right about the recession. I've been like a perma recession caller. Um, I haven't I haven't been a perma bear. I've been extremely bullish, but I've also been suggesting we're like nudging towards that recession and eventually it's going to show up. And when it does, I do think they are going to have to cut these rates all the way down to zero. And then I think they're going to print them. And then I've been saying that we'll probably see these rates hiked way beyond where they have peaked for this cycle, which actually fits the idea of your two into the three out of like 2026 or something.
Yeah. Well, if they print, they need to drop them. They need to slam the zero to get the if they want this whole thing to work. I mean, that's their playbook. uh, you know, um, recession, you know, uh, slam rates, usually some type of, uh, global event causes that, right? And then, uh, 2008, 2020. So if they if they want it to work, they have to get rates to zero and then they have to print. Sorry, my mic muted. Yeah. Super wire. Um, okay, so are you, it sounds to me like you're fully in the recession camp. I don't know why I'm pretending like I didn't know this. I'm pretty sure I knew this already, but for for the viewers at home, right, you are in the same camp as me, right? You you think this recession is probably coming, I would say, next year. I don't want to put words in your mouth, so correct me if I'm wrong.
I do. Yeah. I I think it's unavoidable. I think this is, you know, uh, this chart basically tells it all, you know, that maybe in the beginning this will be good, but if it starts, if we start to see interest rates nuke and, uh, you know, that's that's a bad thing and it that's usually a recession. So, pretty much agreed with that.
Good, good, good. Have you got a have you got like a stock market chart we can look at next? S&P or the Dow or any of those?
Um, and do you see Okay, I got a question for you actually. So, I suppose we should probably go one thing at a time. Maybe you could show us your count and then I want to ask you about the nesting ones and twos idea. I'm not that I know what I'm talking about with Elliot wave by any means, but maybe you can, uh, help shine some light on this.
Sure. Yeah. So, this, uh, this is my NASDAQ account. I also have the S&P. I can bring that up as well. Um, it it was very impulsive. Uh, you know, I saw this as a one coming up and a two and then a one, two, then a one, two, three, four, five, three, because the three has to break into five. And then what you have to do is you have to look back at at your, uh, at the previous count to know where you're at. So this sub, this is a minute and on the minute, it's attached to this one and two. So, this three has to have five waves. And this one is the minute time frame, which is like the daily. Uh, it has to have five waves. So, the I think the jury is still out if this fourth is in or not. Um, it looks like we're probably going to get this fourth here, uh, attached to this three, which is the three eyes. And then once we get that, somebody's beeping. Uh, hey, sorry, man. I have these I have these two dogs and they almost all of my videos, there's some drama with these two dogs. So, this would be the fourth. Uh, so that's basically the count and and and when you see a series of one, two, one, two, one, two, three, four, five, three, four, five, three, four, five, it's really impossible. Ultimately, I think we end around there, 25,000, 858, 26,000 for the NASDAQ. I just, I'm struggling with this fourth. I've seen there's a couple of people I follow on X that chart the NASDAQ as well and, uh, one one of them called this move pretty well, but it, I don't think it's going to need to test all the way down here to to 20,000. I don't think that's coming. It might. I don't know. Usually the rule is the fourth to one less degree. So anywhere down here, 215 to 21950 can be the fourth.
Is there a chance that we can count this slightly different and call the whole thing one, two, one, two, one, two, one, two, one, two, starting from there? Yeah. Yeah. From there, because I noticed, and I was talking about this, like to be clear, I think most people that know me know this already, but I'm not an Elliott wave guy. It's something I've been playing around with fairly recently, but I have seen some other Elliott wave guys talk about this that it could be a bunch of nesting ones and twos. And the reason that each one of these corrections has kind of been getting smaller along the way is because they're at one lesser degree on the way up. Is there And so the implication is if that count is correct, then we're about to go three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, five on the way up. And so is that an alternate count you've got on your radar? Is there a way you can invalidate that? Am I am I flat wrong about this idea or is is this possibly the meltup about to start to go near vertical?
Well, um, I mean, it is a series of one, two, one twos. Um, and we are in the three, four, five part of the five. Uh, if this is all a one and we go very deep for the two, maybe. I don't I don't see how unless we zoom out somewhere and I'm looking at a different time frame. I don't see how, um, you know, this can go into another one, two. At this point, I think it's we're we're pretty close at to, uh, the the last stage of it. It just depends on when this fourth finishes and then after this, you know, the recession's going to hit. My opinion. I don't could be wrong.
No, that that kind of makes sense for me as well. And I we've got a we've got a daily cycle due any day now and then a weekly cycle due about 40 trading days after that. So, kind of says to me it could it could all be done sometime around November.
Yeah. And and I don't know. I feel like it's It's going to completely be blindsiding, you know, like it's not going to be like, oh, hey, here we go. Recession's here. It's going to like hit people because there's always going to be that buy the dip stuff going on and there's always going to be bullish momentum. So, it'll be kind of like shocking to people in my opinion when when they get to that when it actually hits, they won't even know we're in it.
Yeah, I agree. And I I see a lot of people talking about the rate cuts being super bullish as well. And I don't think that's I don't think that's going to be the case. I think these are going to be cuts into a slowdown which is historically quite bearish, which means we could probably see one or two and then I think everyone's going to be jumping up and down going break cuts are here easing all of that kind of thing and very quickly it morphs into, oh, actually these are cuts into a recession, which is extremely bearish.
Yeah. Yeah. Just initially maybe bullish.
So, a couple things. Do you do you think this is deliberate from the Fed? I've been throwing around this term control demolition. I kind of think they're doing this deliberately. I want to know if you, uh, is the tin foil hat on too tight or can you can you see where I'm coming from there?
I do. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they I can see what I can see your point there. Yeah. They, you know, they they're really they probably should have been doing this a while ago, you know, but I don't know. I mean, like when I look at this chart here, I'll bring up the 10-year and and the three-month because I mean, this is this is tinfoil hat [ __ ] right here. Let me just wear the hell. Yeah. So, this this is what I what you're what I agree with what you're saying because as long as as long as this thing, as long as this asset remains, uh, inverted, I it's it's a bull it's a bull party, you know. So, who's got who's got all the ability, who's got all the money and all the power to constantly, you know, be buying and selling this large amount of bonds to control it? You know, it's only it can only be them. This can only be the Fed to manipulate the mo the the biggest market in the world, basically, is the is the bond market. And so, this is this is insanity to me. It's like inversion, uninverted, inversion, uninverted, inversion, uninversion. Like this is, you know, what are they doing? It's so clear right here. They're doing Who's [ __ ] doing this? This is complete manipulation. This is not the free market. Hell no.
Yeah. To your point, Yeah. They're they're they're controlling this [ __ ] When they're ready to pull the plug, you know, uh, whenever whenever that is, sometime next year, then they're they're going to do it and they'll let this thing uninvert and and normalize.
Have you got are you are you into gold and silver? I'm pretty sure you're into those markets as well, right?
Yeah. Yeah, I do. I try. So, I'm I think I'm the most bullish on gold in the entire universe. I'd love to see a gold and a silver chart from you. Your your charts are are are definitely, you know, I had to think. I'm like, damn, camel's camel thinks gold's going up, that I got to re I got to look at my [ __ ] you know? Definitely. I got I got a good amount of physical silver, too. I'm loving the fact that silver's finally freaking going. Yeah. It's about time, isn't it? It's about time. Yeah. I mean, Oh, brutal, man. It's like it's like being trapped in an old coin bare market for 10 years, right? It's just never there's never relief. There's there's there's never like you can always say if you're in all coins, you're like, "Oh, it's going to be a dead cap bounce or something get out." It's like, nope. Silver is just [ __ ] always [ __ ] And the and the guys on YouTube, they'll they'll uh they they'll make you feel good. They're like, "Oh, JP Morgan's gonna pull the their short and and whatever. It's going to go up." You know, apparently they have a big short. I mean, this is what I have. I have a three, but I I think it it's going to go up somewhere over here to 37 maybe, uh, 38 and then we'll get a four and then it's going to go, you know, uh, maybe around the time that the Fed, you know, goes into that easing cycle because when the rates drop, I don't think I don't think gold's going to do very good. But then maybe when they, you know, when they cut and they start printing, you know, it looks like I'm seeing like five somewhere close up here. Uh, but this could be I I have to I haven't looked at in a while. This could be a part of a bigger cycle. I know you're looking for like seven. I think I'm looking Well, not I don't know to be honest. I I like the idea there's one squeeze. I think I think that the, uh, most recent consolidation is enough to I don't think we need to necessarily go down from here. Um, I think what we've what we've done in terms of time for the last h however many weeks that was, I think that's probably enough and we can probably get going straight up from here practically. Um, but then I think we're going to see a a big correction for for precious metals. Past what I said, past like that 38, 3,900.
You're thinking it's just going to go up to higher levels from here?
Oh, I think goes way higher than that. I think I think it probably gets closer to 5K. But maybe maybe I'm crazy. No, no, it's just Why not, man? It's the one of the best performing assets since like, you know, 2022, I'd say. Yeah. Look, it's if you if you put it into a triangle, it's breaking out right here. Yeah. So, I'm thinking it's done correcting here. I think it's done consolidating and I think it's got one final like blowoff top move here. That's what I'm That's what I've been calling for. And I think it probably ends up closer to 5K than 3800. And then like I said, I think we got to have a whopping great correction because this thing under goes eight-year cycles. And it's half cycle low, or said another way, it's four-year cycle low is actually synced up with the stock market and Bitcoin's in late next year, which makes me think that this is going to be like the final harrah and then we're going to have to have some big sort of sideways and down correction into late 2026.
Okay. I mean, I'm just looking at it here and I haven't charted in a while. There's a bunch of guys in my group that like they are huge PM holders and it's just like the crypto. It's like the Bitcoin and the Ethereum just keep me so busy I almost never look at it. It's been a while, but it could be this. It could be, you know, that's a 1, two, three, four, five, three. That was a four. We don't need to test this fourth to one less degree. Then we got a five up here somewhere. Like you said, 5,000. And then we got a four. Comes back down to this four. And then we got a five up here somewhere. That's a high time frame five attached to this one. is it could just be a very, you know, up and to the right kind of chart. Yeah. This is this is what I'm thinking. This is what I'm thinking personally. But I just think that five of the five is going to be way higher.
Yeah. No, it can. Yeah. Can extend. I've seen targets like in the 20,000.
Yeah. That's that's my kind of my kind of, uh, that's my kind of area. I'm hoping silver gets some kind of love from this because I got actually I sold off some of my, uh, I have a couple of physical gold bars that I got rid of when it hit like 3,000 because at that time I thought that it wouldn't go past 32 and here we are at 35 and it's still [ __ ] going. So, you know, hopefully hopefully silver does catch up. I'm pretty sure silver is going to going to outperform, continue to move higher. I think it's going to, you know what that count we just had for gold. I think silver is going to do practically the same thing. So I think like we've started the move above 50 now, like towards 50 and then above 50. And I I reckon anywhere between 50 and 60 for silver would be pretty good. I know like David Hunter's got a 75 target or something like that, which I think is maybe a bit too high. But then I think it's going to correct again into like late 2026. And then I think from there we finally get the move that everyone in the world has been waiting for or all the silver guys have, which is from I don't know, 20, 25 bucks in late 26 to two 300 plus, I think.
Oh god, make it happen, please. That's what I That's what I think is coming in response to the printing, but I mean, I don't know. How big is that JP Morgan short, right?
Yeah. I Yeah. Hey, I don't I don't know if they're going to squeeze them, but wouldn't it be kind of a great thing if, uh, around the time that you're saying that that short gets magically erased or something, they pull it for whatever reason? Who knows? They've been known to do that. you know, they'll they'll come in and put that straddle in like right around OPEX and they just they'll put a straddle in. I think the last one was at like, uh, 5,000 or 5,100 and and at the last OPEX in June, I think they did that and everybody was saying S&P was going to go down and, uh, we were going to go down back into the the high threes and then I I seen JP Morgan put that straddle and I was like, "Nope, it ain't going down. Extend it higher, you know." I mean, I think I think they would know better than to be short out of enormous amounts of QE, to be honest.
Yeah. I mean, I got the bars and some coins. I feel kind of weird about selling them, man. I'm like weird. I like to look at my coins and I'm like, "Oh, look how beautiful it is." Like the the guy from, what's that that, uh, Lord of the Rings. My precious. Well, that's how I my silver here. Here in the UK, it's like they they do their absolute best to stop people being able to profit from it because I I checked the other day. I checked last night actually to sell 1 ounce of silver in the UK, they will give you spot at about 30, but if you want to buy it immediately back, they, what with the spread on the coins and then they also add VAT, um, at 20%. Which means it's £44 to buy or you or 30 for them to to buy it from you, right? So 30 to sell or 44 to buy and like that means. Yeah. Yeah. You need you need to really like hold it for a long time and and time it well to be able to actually make decent gains from it. But, but the good news is I think for anyone that's kind of upset about that, then, you know, that 2030 to 2032 timeline should be pretty good.
Well, you think it can go even higher by then, like, um, to a thousand?
Oh, I didn't say that. But, um, I my timeline for like 2030 to 2032. That's when I think we see $2 to $300 silver and, you know, like 20K plus gold. That's that's when I think we see it. I mean, I have the miners. So I I buy I buy the junior silver miners. I bought them I buy them with my, uh, my my, uh, IRA. So I'm just going to sell this. I'm going to sell those on those on those pumps. But I I think I'll hold the physical probably out, you know, until like I see some big number like 300, 400, 500. I'm just dreaming about a thousand. I can't get the chart there, you know, or until like the zombie apocalypse or something like that, right? Yeah. Now they, you know, now they're gonna silver is going to be in huge demand because we're bartering with silver or something. And I'll be like, "Now we're rich, fam. I'll tell my kids. I just bought a mansion with a silver coin that I I spent $30 on in 2011 because literally that's like how much it's up 40. It's $40, right? I think I bought it for like $28 in 2011.
Oh, really? Okay. Oh, wow. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Look how long you've had to hold this [ __ ] for. Ridiculous, right? Yeah. But it's I think we're finally there. I think we're finally there. I do. I do.
Um, what about Bitcoin, old coins, that kind of thing? I'm not really an altcoin guy, but I know some viewers will want to see them. They don't get them from me, so maybe you could bless them with a few.
I mean, uh, I can give them my You want my picks like which ones I have or just like Bitcoin? Uh, if you could start with Bitcoin and then I don't know, you can show show whatever you want really. Um, you don't have to give away any secrets or, uh, you can choose to I'll leave it up to you. Maybe just do like ETH and soul or something. I don't know.
Okay. Yeah. Um, I I've been kind of leaning towards this chart lately on Bitcoin. Uh, I feel like I know and I don't know if your cycles support this. I feel like we might run into some trouble around the meeting and after the meeting. Um, so I've been kind of like liking the way this diagonal looks. Uh, you know, the one, two, three, four, five because I don't know if you if you remember some of the work I put up. I was I was looking at, um, Bitcoin to hold and like 11,800. And I was really like, that level's not going to fail, you know? Um, but it failed and, uh, now I'm like, "Fuck, now I gotta go back to the lab and I gotta count this [ __ ] again." So, uh, I kind of like walked away from it for a bit and just been leaning on my ETH count because my ETH count's been pretty spot-on. And, uh, I've been thinking, well, um, maybe maybe that's because ETH in the old coins are leading right now and Bitcoin's taking a backseat. We don't need Bitcoin to go constantly parabolic. This is kind of what we need. We need Bitcoin to show some weakness and, uh, and this this will give, uh, the altcoins a chance to go. So that kind of led me into this because it's kind of hard to explain the overlap. I don't know if you can see right here, this ABC, this ABC, this move hitting into this one is hard to it's hard to explain at at this time. Maybe in a week or two or a month, I'll look back and say, "Oh, it was something else." I don't know. But at this time, this overlap is hard to explain unless it's a diagonal because that's the only time, uh, you could get a four over a one. And so it's like impulse three, impulse three so quickly. I'm just like, you know, diagonal. It's like it's just like this little spidey sense I'm getting. I've seen so many of them in this cycle and I wouldn't even have picked up on it before. I swear to God. like they're so hard to to to catch. You really don't even know you're in them until it's done. Uh, but since there's been so many diagonals, uh, in in this cycle, I I've been catching them a lot quicker. So, I brought this count out and I kind of imagining that we're going to probably hit like 130, 140 and, uh, it's possible we'll see a bigger correction sometime in October into November. Uh, and this will be the altcoins catching up right here. This will be Ethereum going to like 5600, 5,800, 6,000, 6,300, you know, one, one of that, one of those levels. Uh, and this will be like the smaller [ __ ] coins. Uh, just maybe catching up. Maybe we can get them, you know, back above 2024, uh, all-time highs, March all-time highs or December 2024 all-time highs. But I think this move would, if it's, uh, if it's Bitcoin going to 130, 140, and if it's ETH making a huge push, I think a lot of the old coins are probably going to just take a backseat and it's going to be ETH season. Like it's pretty much been ETH season and I think it's just going to probably continue until ETH breaks, uh, 5,000, flips it into support and finds that higher level, wherever that is, like I said, 63, 27, um, you know, and that's that's when it slows down and then I think it would be too easy for market makers to just give us that humongous this, uh, alt season. I'll bring up I'll bring up my Bitcoin dominance chart to kind of show it. I think it would be too easy for the market makers to just give us that epic alt season at that point. So, I'm kind of forecasting this. I I don't show it that much. It's It's been in my group for a while now. I've been on this calendar for a while, so the group knows. But, I think we'll hit a B wave. I think it's going to hit right now around 59.2 to 59.5 and then when it drops into this fifth wave, it has the possibility to hit most likely 54.7 to 53.35 and I think it's unfortunately going to be mostly ETH. I don't I don't I don't think, you know, probably ETH, XRP, Solana, um, those guys are gonna are gonna get some big, you know, uh, momentum, but a lot of the shitty small cap coins that all of us hold because we, you know, we want to catch them going from whatever it is $2 to $100 or 50 cents to $20. I don't think those coins are going to get that that pump just yet. I think that pump is coming off of this B wave. So, it'll be like everyone's calling alt season, but it's really mostly ETH season, maybe XRP, maybe Solana, like I said, and then, um, a pretty decent rug. Uh, and then when sentiment is completely flushed and everybody is like, we're never going to get alt season here. Look at this. It's just ETH season and it's ETH season. It's XRP season. I think that's when this move right here, the B into the C is when all the alts are just going to have a good good big run. And this move, I think goes down here somewhere to 46% maybe even 42, uh, end of the year, early 2026. So, we're we're about five to six maybe months out of that big run. We just going to have to deal with, uh, a B wave rug.
It's super interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Super interesting because I have the weekly cycles pretty much exactly synced up with this. So, where you've got the completion of this next leg down into the A, that's where I have the weekly cycle forming. And if you could go back to the Bitcoin chart, I have us like trying to find a bottom here, which would support that final push into the ending diagonal you showed. And then the correction into the two would also fit perfectly. Well, if it happened a bit quicker than what you've got there, if it was shunted to the left hand side by a few weeks, then it would perfectly marry up with a weekly cycle low as well. But I wanted to ask this two you've got there on the Bitcoin chart, what what wave degree is this?
This would be the, um, where is this one? This would be a minor time frame right here. So, uh, this one will be probably the daily. I didn't label yet because I haven't confirmed it, but this will be the daily. And the daily is the, uh, minute time frame. I'm just having a hard time reconciling the whole how you know how does Bitcoin go to do a three, four, five to like 300, 400,000 by and my my bias being let my bias being by, you know, end of Q1 of, uh, 2026, you know, so I'm just that's why I'm kind of leery about this, but I I think it's going to unfold. I just don't know how. It would be this, right? If you go to the settings of the of the, um, of the impulse, you can see the minute. This is the daily. And I can fib it out and just do like a this is complete speculation though. This is this is not nothing's confirmed here. But you can kind of estimate what it might do based on fibs. And I don't know how the fibs work for, uh, when you do your cycle analysis, but in Elliott wave, uh, the 1618 is a is a general area. We look.
For the uh, the three, right? And then the four would test whatever four is to the lower degree, or the 382. And then the five would be up here somewhere, like 400,000 or so. And that would be all types of fives. And a lot of people would be, "Oh, no. That would be a three." I'm sorry. That would be this three. And then these fives probably get pushed out to the next cycle. I wouldn't even pay attention to them.
Then maybe this four is the, is the alien invasion, you know? And then we get, and then we see it going from 400,000 to 150, you know, max. Part of me, I don't know how you feel about this, but part of me thinks max pain is just, you know, Bitcoin going to a million dollars, never letting anybody in.
Yeah. I mean, I see your point. I think, I think there has to be a four-year cycle low. As a cycle trader, I think I have, like, I can't bet against there not being a significant shakeout into kind of late 2026. I mean, that, that, that low can wiggle around by a good few months, but there should be a very visible low on the kind of weekly and monthly time frames around that kind of late 2026 time frame, which would kind of fit your, like, wave four there, right? Um, I don't know if we can go all the way to, I really, I hope so, but like, I don't 400 and something K just seems like it's probably not going to happen. I don't know. Like, do you have an alternate count for this?
Yeah, I have, I haven't been working this. Let me see. This is the one I've been doing a lower time frame, but it got invalidated when 111K didn't hold 111,800. And so I just been, haven't updated it. Uh, but I have a higher time frame count here. It's just very messy. And it looks like it's calling for like 300, you know, 286 to 300 for the fifth. And then we hit this major bare market here. You know, down here we're, we're, um, 15,000. We can even go lower, you know, because this is a cycle. One, two, one, two, three, four, five, three. See that three in orange? And then where's the four? Well, we know the four goes to four to one less degree. Well, here's the four to one less degree. We're down here at 3,000, right? So, if it's discount, you know, I, I, you know, I will be backing up the truck, man, if I get this. And it looks like 2027, something like that, like you were saying, and then we're, we're gone into 2030 where, who knows, two, three, four, five million per coin.
Does Elliot wave say it has to come back to that low? That seems like it would break the network. Uh, well, it says that the fourth has to, the fourth, it's not a rule, but it's a guideline that the fourth, the fourth can test the fourth to one less degree. Also, it, it uses the uh, the 38, which is my favorite, which is right. It's speculating it hits this fifth. Now, that's just complete speculation, but it could be here at 13,000. It could be somewhere over here at 18, 19, 20,000 depending how high this goes. The higher we go, the, the higher that 38 is. But yeah, I don't, I don't think they're going to let it. Uh, I don't think they're going to let people get it unless they really, unless we really hit like, um, a really bad bare market that just cons. I mean, Mr. Parabolic, you know, he's, he's got similar targets down here, 18 to 20,000, uh, in the next bare market. He thinks, uh, he thinks the guy from, uh, he thinks what's his name? Uh, Michael Saylor is going to get, going to get liquidated. I would not at all be surprised. Uh, not be, not because I think there's anything like shady about him necessarily. I know some people do. Some people, I've seen a lot of people saying he might be a plant or something like that. I'm not sure if I'd buy that, but I think like markets function like heat-seeking missiles for that kind of behavior. So, if some hedge fund or some quant in some, some, uh, institution somewhere in a back room can find a way to get him to be forced to sell his Bitcoin and blow up, then they will, they will do that, right? That's just how markets work. They just, they just function in that manner. So, I would not at all be surprised if that happens.
Um, and did you see like the US government's buying Intel and stuff, bought like 10% of Intel? Made me wonder if they could just do the same to MicroStrategy and then start to be like, "Well, you need to sell your Bitcoin now." And then he still gets to save face and say, "Well, he didn't want to do it, but the government made him or whatever." I don't know. There's like a million. I'm just spitballing, of course, but there's like a million different ways it could happen. But it just would not at all surprise me. And even if it's not MicroStrategy, I reckon a bunch of these other treasury companies that have kind of copied his playbook. I reckon a bunch of those are either going to panic sell or sell to protect downside or maybe they've got like a, a leverage structure internally that we don't know about that Saylor hasn't, right, that is forced to be blown up. It would not at all surprise me. There's always something like that in these bare markets, I find.
Yeah, 100%. Yeah, they might even do a, a, they might even bail him out like they bailed out the banks. Imagine. I never thought of that, but that's actually genius, isn't it? Like, you, you force him to be liquidated, then kind of give him one of those cartel type loans so that he's in your pocket and then you control a big chunk of Bitcoin without him even having to buy it. Yeah. Can you imagine? I mean, bare market [ __ ] but holy crap, if that happens, look, I just want some popcorn. I want to watch it. That's all.
Is there anything else you want to show us? Or can I ask you about aliens now, Big Mike? Yeah, let's talk aliens. Okay, tell me about the aliens, Big Mike. That's what they want. There's, there's a few people that seem to be really into this. There's not that many people I've encountered that seem to be as sold on the idea as I am. And I think you are as well. I think you're as sold, if not maybe more sold, than I am. So again, don't let me put words in your mouth. Uh, let me know if, if, if you think this is possible, is it likely? Is it certain? What, what do you think is going to happen or probably going to happen? And, you know, how did you arrive at this conclusion?
Right. Yeah. So, well, first off, you gotta, you know, I got to throw respect to to you because you came out with this idea first. I seen it on X and I had been thinking it for a while and, uh, I just wasn't talking about it too much. I just kind of kept it to myself. But then you came out on X and that kind of gave me some more confidence to say, "Hey, listen, you know, if Camel's seen the same thing and, you know, his cycle analysis is always pretty much on point, you know, like it's, it's probably that like, uh, it's probably got a good chance." And, um, you know, there's, there were some other theories going on at the time. Um, I think Christian had, uh, I follow this Christian Cortez, he's very good, and, uh, he had some solar flares would come in or something like that, and and that would be the reason why they crashed the market. Um, you know, I just have this, I don't know what to call it. I don't know if you were, were you around during 2017? There was a, um, for that bull market for, for crypto.
Yeah, I didn't, I didn't trade crypto, but I watched it happen. I've been, I was trading stocks and that kind of thing before then, but I didn't buy Bitcoin until the 2018 bare market lows. Right. So, there was a guy and I don't remember his name and it, it just keeps slipping my, my memory. He was an older guy. He was like a software engineer for a huge corporation company. I can't remember which corporation it was in the USA. He developed some type of algorithm, uh, or something to scour the internet and search through all of these like backroom, uh, dark web chats and people would be. That's it. That's the guy. Yeah. So he, he, he developed this, uh, you know, and at that time I didn't know anything about Elliot wave or anything. I was listening to a lot of his stuff and he, he had this coined this phrase called "woo woo." Do you remember that? Yeah. Yeah. So, um, I'll just, if, if your listeners don't know, basically that algorithm, he called it woo woo because it was loosely based on some type of like spiritual phenomenon, some type of unknown energy, but also based on this mathematical algorithm that he was using to scour the internet, right? So, I feel like this aliens idea is a bit of like this woo woo for me, I guess you can call it, you know, like, uh, I can't quite explain how I'm confident in that it's going to happen, but, uh, I've done enough like research on it and, uh, I, I think I think it's got a really good chance that it's going to happen. I think this three-ey Atlas is is, uh, is basically the Trojan horse. You know, if you, if you look at how they're, I don't know if you've seen, uh, the videos that they're doing on it. The science community is divided right now. And they have this guy Avi Loe, who's, um, basically the Harvard, uh, scientist. And when I look at Avi Loe, I think, um, Anthony Fauci, you know, this, like the first thing that comes to my mind because Anthony Fauci was a, was a doctor, a high, a high-level doctor. And then I think to myself, I guess this is part of the woo woo. I think to myself, well, I know if, if I'm trying to pull off a fake alien invasion the same way I'm trying to pull off a fake pandemic, I need a couple of pieces of the puzzle to fit. You know, I need somebody reputable like a doctor, like a scientist. I know that, uh, you know, I need to sway the media and swaying the media and getting the media to back it. So there's like these different pieces. So they have enough money, if they have enough money to pull off a global pandemic, if they have enough money to pull off a fake alien invasion, they got enough money to pay these doctors to write or say whatever the [ __ ] they want. I mean, this is my opinion. So that's my theory. He's, this, this, uh, uh, Avi Loe guy is, I don't know if he's paid with money or he's just like, he's loving the fame he's getting because he's becoming so famous. So maybe it's like a self-fulfilling thing where they give him a bit of money, they, they fund him a bit and now they're, they're putting him on TV, he's going on different news networks, he's becoming famous. So maybe it's a little bit of that as well. Maybe it's not they're just paying him off millions of dollars. Maybe it's like this self-fulfilling thing where they get him started and now he's on his own because he really, maybe he really thinks it. So, does any of that make sense?
Yeah. Who is, who is this guy though? I think I've completely missed this guy.
Okay, Avi Loe is, uh, Harvard physicist and he basically, he, he spotted a few years ago in 2017, there was there was a, uh, comet or an asteroid that flowed through our system. They discovered it in Hawaii and they named it Oumuamua because that's the name of the Hawaii, uh, observatory. Yep. That they used to to see it, find it. He came out back then and he said, "This comet or this asteroid is not moving in the same sort of, uh, trajectory that a normal comet or asteroid would move in." And they were talking about how it doesn't have a coma, um, and and the coloring of it and everything like that. But it came and it passed our planet and and it just left and we forgot about it. But they were saying how it left, it left very deliberately. It left the system. It left our solar system very deliberately. It accelerated out of the solar system. It gained speed when it should have just kind of maintained its regular speed and and just gravity or whatever is out there in space pulled it into into that cloud, that Oort cloud and and it lands over there somewhere or maybe it goes through it, just, whatever random act of nature. But they're saying that Oumuamua accelerated out of, uh, out of our solar system. And then, uh, this new comet is so AI, AI, um, Avi Loe, he's, he, he spotted Oumuamua. So he's been around since 2017 and the science community is kind of like, uh, they kind of like laugh at him, I guess, or or what? I don't know if they laugh at him. I mean, they just discredit him because of that, uh, Oumuamua. He was saying that he thought that it might be like one of the, uh, what do they call, like a satellite or something they that that alien that aliens sent that asteroid to pretend to be an asteroid when it really was just like an observing ship, a satellite ship that just flew past us to see what's going on on Earth. So he had that theory. That was his original theory. And he became kind of, uh, famous and also hated for that. And now we have three Atlas and he's following up again. And he's becoming famous again because of it. Because now he's saying three Atlas is the mother ship. He's saying Oumuamua was their satellite ship that they flew past us to just check us out. And this, the mother ship. And the mother ship might be coming here to invade. You know, that's pretty much the story.
Okay. I, um, I was aware of Oumuamua. I just didn't know that guy's name. Um, but thank you for explaining that. I, I don't think you're crazy at all. I don't think you're crazy. The, the Cliff High thing was fascinating to me. Um, like you say, his whole idea is that the, uh, humans are psychic and then he built a bot to screen all of the online conversation because his idea is that psychic leaks, which people don't even really realize they're leaking all the time, make their way into like chat rooms and conversations and trends and themes. And so he built a bot to screen for that, as you said. And it's really fascinating because it predicted all sorts of things. Like it even predicted Trump would go on the Joe Rogan podcast. It predicted Trump would be president. Um, all of this other crazy stuff as well. And one of the things it predicted was that we would get into this kind of timeline and we would see a whole heap of UFOs and aliens and that kind of thing. And at the time I was like, "Yeah, that's crazy. Like it doesn't even make sense." He also predicted the GFC, I think, as well and a bunch of other like stock market. Yeah. Um, made a bunch of money from stock trading and stuff like that using this bot, which is like really fascinating. Um, is often kind of, I don't know if "wrong" is the right word to describe it. It's often misinterpreted because it also finds new language as it becomes available. And often times he's like, "Oh, we've got this new word, but I don't know in what context it's going to be used." So that's kind of like super weird. Um, but when you say like you don't know how to describe it, I often call it like intuition. And I do believe it just kind of like bleeds in from some higher field. And that's why a lot of people know about it, but or or can feel it. But there's also a whole heap of other things. Like the more you look around at this stuff, the more you can kind of like grab puzzle pieces and slowly put them together over time. At least that's how I find it. And like the media of late has been drip-feeding this stuff over the past couple of years. I don't think anyone can kind of dispute that they've definitely been showing like orbs and UAPs and like all of this kind of thing and strange lights and and and that definitely has like has increased in frequency and intensity in the last, I don't know, 12 or 18 months or so. All of this as well for me stemmed from years and years and years ago. I heard something I thought was absolutely ridiculous and I laughed out loud when I heard it. But it stuck in the back of my mind and then like years later I was like, "Oh yeah, that actually makes a lot of sense." And it was, I forget who exactly who it was. I think I heard it on a Joe Rogan podcast that there was some kind of like government insider that on their deathbed, I'm sure we could Google this and pull the names. Um, but on their deathbed they said, "Beware the fake alien invasion." Right? The final card they will play in the new world order is the fake alien invasion. And when I heard this, I thought this was so absurd that I couldn't stop laughing about it. Um, it was only, like I say, many years later that I suddenly like, "Actually, that doesn't seem so crazy anymore. It almost seems like that could be a thing." And I don't know whether it will be totally fake or whether I've also seen some like ideas that, um, there's like some kind of coalition between aliens and the humans and that that ends next year or the year after. I don't know how I feel about any of this really, apart from one thing. Thing I'm quite good at is kind of stepping back and looking around me. And when I look around me, it seems like number one, it is way more accepted these days than it was like five or 10 years ago. Number two, it seems like the media is definitely drip-feeding it, like trickling it into the collective consciousness, if you will. And number three, they seem to have been like conditioning people to kind of be more open to it, right? It's kind of like, "Oh well, there's orbs, there's UAPs." They've had like high-level, quote-high-level, like military guys come out and say things like, "Oh, we found a tic-tac-toe," or like, "Oh, we found this UAP," or this unidentified flying thing or whatever. And they kind of seem to be wanting to give more credibility to that over time, which, you know, all of these are just individual puzzle pieces, they kind of mean nothing, but you kind of start putting them together, at least I do, and I find myself thinking like, "This now seems to be fairly reasonable to assume is going to show up in the next few years." So, I hope I'm kind of wrong about that. Um, I really do, but I'm going to be more surprised if it doesn't show up than if it does. So, that's kind of where I sit on this whole thing. I don't know.
Yeah. Of course. It's like, like you said, it's like they're conditioning the public, the me, the mainstream media. They're, they're conditioning us to be ready for the event or meeting alien. I mean, like you said, high-level, uh, especially in America, a lot of high-level, uh, what is it, uh, Air Force, uh, pilots and and and are all coming out saying that they, they've actually seen UAPs and it's like right on regular TV channel two, you know, for for America, like a main channel. It could be on channel two or channel seven. So, yeah. Yeah.
And then Cliff, if you, Cliff High's bot thing, going back to that, um, that seems to think they're going to present in literal form. Like this is not just going to be, it's going to start as UAPs and it already has kind of done that, but it will eventually kind of, it'll get to a point where they are actually here walking amongst us and we will have to. He, he even said his language bot showed that there's going to be slang terms that humans use to describe them and slang terms that we use to describe each other. Right. And he even starts his podcast with like, "Hello earthlings, hello earth humans," and that kind of thing. He's got his own slang terms for, um, for humans that are coming out of this chatbot. So all of this stuff is like, it kind of seems crazy until it happens. Right.
Yeah. I'm going to have to go, uh, find his channel. I didn't know he went that deep into it. Oh, yeah. He, um, he posts incredibly inconsistently. He, I, I wouldn't recommend the YouTube channel. Somebody on the YouTube, not Cliff, somebody grabs all his stuff and uploads it there, but it's all out of time. It's all out of chronological order, but if you go on, uh, Cliff High, he's got a website with his name in it. Um, and then there's like videos there and he posts them on there. So, that's probably like the best place to to check it out. But yeah, he does all sorts of videos. Um, and the other thing, the other thing he was calling for a long time ago was zero-point technology. And I was like, "That's not going to happen in like 2026." But then I just clocked it the other day that, um, they've, what was the manufacturer? Some car manufacturer made these two electric cars and one runs off a regular battery like a Tesla or whatever that you charge up and then it goes and the other one collects like ions from the air, like literally a zero-point technology. And they proved that it worked. And so that was another thing he's seemingly right about, which again, I just laughed at because I thought it sounded so ridiculous. Uh, but, but yeah, man, definitely check him out. He's a fascinating guy. Um, I don't want to keep you too much longer. Do you have anything to add? Do you want to let people know where you can, where they can find you? I know you've got like a trading group if anyone's interested. Uh, do you want to give yourself a shout out? I'll put the link to all your stuff in the description and stuff.
Uh, yeah. Um, yeah, I'm at, uh, Michael Ewpro_716, I think. And, uh, yeah, I got my, my group is, uh, is linked to my, you know, um, my Twitter, so my X profile. And, uh, just want to say, you know, a lot of, I had a great time talking to you. You know, I always talk to you on X and I always enjoy your videos and I always enjoy your posts. And, uh, just thank you for having me on. And, uh, you know, I look forward to doing it again sometime when you, whenever you want to do it. I'm, I'm available. I think you're brilliant and, uh, I enjoy your work.
Thank you very much, Mike. I appreciate you. Uh, maybe we can, yeah, we'll, we'll reschedule something maybe when we can see some tops coming in. I think for now, the focus should be on finding the tops, right? That's at least our focus. I'm sure you're probably the same, staying on these crazy trends. But I think, yeah, in a few months, we can run it back for sure. I'd really appreciate that. And I love your work on Twitter as well. So, thanks for keeping the bull spirits high, 'cause I don't know anyone with as, as bullish a TA as yours, but it's amazing. It's amazing how often this stuff comes true. So, so thanks again for your time and thank you for being here. Um, like I said, I'll put all the, I'll put all the links to your stuff in, in the description and pin comment. And, uh, yeah, when I, when I get bearish, they're going to miss me. They're going to miss Big Mike. Watch. You don't, you don't want to see Bear Big Mike. He's a totally different guy.
Looking forward to it, brother. Well, thank you again and, uh, yeah, we'll speak soon. All right, bro. Have a good one.