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Is the official 9/11 narrative correct? And I mean, I know that sounds like a long way ago, but it was, you know, 25 years ago now. Do we believe, if we went back in, if we look back at it now, do we believe the official 9/11 narrative?
Well, look from the point of view of so so Australians again because of their um you know the Judeo-Christian ethic that infused our nation the Christian ethic the western civilization you know we Christianity gives you a very clear moral compass you know you can see what's right and what's wrong so radical Islam um you know which is what attacked America on 9/11 um yeah that that narrative you know that that narrative is right a guy called Osama bin Laden and a whole he Wahhabi sort of um Saudi Arabians, you know, wanted to wage jihad on the west and thought they'd start by bringing down the World Trade Center.
Um so we've been engaged in a you know in a existential fight against radical Islam which is trying to spread across the globe and and they're doing it through immigration into countries like the UK, France and Australia. So, so from that point of view, yeah, there there is a deliberate um attempt by Islam to colonize us. And I don't want to be colonized by Islam. If if people of other religions, including Islam, want to come live in Australia, that's fine. Um I believe in freedom of religion, but you've got to become Australian and you can't have a higher loyalty to some, you know, caliphate.
>> But you were old enough to remember September 11, right?
>> Yeah. Yeah. I saw it happen live. How how many buildings fell that day?
>> You know, no, let's be honest about this, right? How many buildings fell?
>> I haven't um I haven't, you know, followed this rabbit down the hole. I'm aware of this.
>> The problem is is that me and a whole bunch of Gen Zeds and a whole bunch of millennials have gone down that rabbit hole
>> and the official story doesn't stack up, which means that we were lied to to get into a forever war in the Middle East. We were lied to to get involved in Afghanistan. We were all lied to in the early 2010s to push with the surge, more Australian troops, more dead Australians. We were lied to constantly about the war on terror. And not only that, but we ended up with all these people from these countries in our country now. And so suddenly we've got the Middle East conflict playing out on our streets,
>> right? And so when we know the official narrative of 9/11 was not correct, how do you believe anything else that happens after that? And I can't blame. So, I saw a poll that came out the other day. 87% of Australians aged under 33 have an unfavorable view of Israel. That's not all lefties, mate. That's a whole bunch of right-wing kids as well going, "You guys tell lies and talk too. Both of you are as bad as each other." Now, we could argue until the cows come up about who's the worst, right? But what we see in Australia is the third option is all of you can piss off and leave. We don't want any of you here and we don't want your problems. Do you understand that?
I'm not sure if I understand the theories around how many buildings fell down on on 911.
>> There was three buildings that fell that day, but there was only two airplanes and architects and engineers for 9/11 truth have come out and done a million studies on this and showed that those planes would not have been able to take those buildings down.
>> So, so the official narrative around 9/11 has never ever gelled. And mate, I was in the military at the time and we even looked at it and went,
>> "That doesn't look right." But hey, we're going to war, so it's all cool.
Well, look, I I I can't comment on that and I haven't I'm I'm vaguely aware that Tucker Carlson did some work on this a while ago. I didn't watch his program.
>> Now, you know, the Israeli lobby, the Jewish lobbies are labeling him as an agent of Qatar and he's an anti-semite. And so, as soon as anyone questions some of these official narratives, like we've been absolutely smashed online for the last four weeks by some of these Zionist guys because we don't want to be involved in these Middle East forever wars. And so it's like if you don't support Israel, then by default, you love the child raping prophet and you support Iran. We don't care about any of them.
I I I'm I'm broadly aware of um cuz you you and I spoke briefly a few weeks ago. I haven't followed this narrative down the rabbit holes. Um I'm aware that a lot of people on the right and Tucker Carlson and Candace Owen and others have have gone down a path which I'm deeply concerned about. I'm not sure whether you're down that same path or not. Um I think we've got to, you know, separate a few things out. Um look, obviously the forever wars were a bad thing and missteps were made. I think it was right to go into Afghanistan and clean up the al-Qaeda training camps and all that sort of stuff. Um we can, you know, at the time I thought going in and taking out Saddam Hussein was the right thing. He certainly behaved as if he had weapons of mass destruction. You know, he could have called it all off by letting the weapons inspectors do their thing. he didn't for whatever reason. Um so the Americans went in look and it was obviously a mess because we you know helped create ISIS and blah blah blah and you know a lot of Australian treasure and blood was spilled in Afghanistan. So I think you know we realize that that was all a big mistake but that doesn't mean there isn't an existential threat from radical Islam and from the Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS and all these people that are trying to get a caliphate going. And what's really shocked me since October 7, 2023 is just how deep these roots are here in Australia. And we saw it obviously culminating in Bondi, but just, you know, I've just been monitoring the media in Sydney for the last 3 years. And and the amount of, you know, Muslim um shakes and imams um you know, speaking in favor of of killing Jews and jihad and um you know, having his alter at Lemba mosque. I mean, this is crazy stuff. And yet they get away. It's a one day news story. You know, if if if someone from Shinfane got up on the steps of St. Mary's Cathedral and said, "I want to, you know, go and bomb, you know, Protestants in Ireland." You know, the archbishop will be drumed out of his pulpit. Uh it'll be a running story. But these Muslim um clerics get up and say crazy stuff in Lemba mosque and other prayer halls and stuff like this. It's a one day story and there's no sustained pressure. And again, it's DEI. So, I think there is a problem with radical Islam and uh I think it's an existential threat to Australia. And I want to say to um you know, our Islamic brothers and sisters in Australia, if if you're going to live here, that's fine. Um I believe in freedom of religion, but I don't want a bar of political Islam. I don't want a bar of Sharia law in our country.
>> How did we end up in a war for 20 odd years and we ended up with the enemy inside the gates, mate?
>> That's, you know, you know, I mean, like we lost,
>> did we win the war? Did we lose the war?
>> Look, it's it's it's a hu monumental tragedy. I mean, I have huge respect for our Afghan vets because they were over there fighting the Taliban%.
>> Imagine Imagine coming back here and finding out that you've actually brought these guys into your own.
>> But the Taliban are the sort of people who want to do Bondi. Um, and they they'll start with the Jews, but they're not going to stop there. It's first the Saturday people and it's the Sunday people. Um, you know, any anyone who's an infidel, they're after. And and this, you know, sadly is being promoted uh amongst us uh by way too many Muslims. And there's too many Muslim leaders uh who have been silent about Hamas. And you know, don't push back on that. I would be embarrassed to be a Muslim leader at the moment. They say Islam is a religion of peace. If there were Christians behaving in Australia or abroad the way Muslims are behaving at the moment, I would be embarrassed.
>> Do you think we needed special laws in Australia to combat anti-semitism?
>> No. No. And I I don't And I'm very much
>> I mean that's another thing that didn't look good for I don't want to see and yeah because you know the government's um look the government well they've overreacted both ways you know they've beefed up sort of you know um all the sort of hate speech laws to deal with islamophobia as well as anti-semitism and all it does is constrict free speech
>> well who did it hurt the most who's it going to hurt
>> it hurts it hurts any it hurts all of us mostly
>> totally Australians yeah and and and you know, if anything, it should be you know, clamping well, I don't want to see any more um anti-free speech laws or hate speech laws because I think they're misconceived. I think if people are advocating violence, that's where we should draw the line. If someone wants to say silly things and insult other people, that's bad and terrible, but I don't think there should be a law. I mean, I'm up on hate speech um charges is the wrong word, but I've been sued for hate speech by two drag queens because I said they're dangerous role models for children, and they are. Um but I've been, you know, I'm in my seventh year of litigation. I'm against these sort of hate speech laws. And you know, it was a knee-jerk reaction to respond to the anti-semitism. Anti-mitism is terrible. It has no place in Australia, but you're not going to fix it by more hate speech laws.
>> No, we love to internalize a threat here, mate. Whereas, you know, I look at I had this thought, you know, experiment. What would Israel have done after Bondi,
>> mate?
>> They would have bombed the out of the terrorist training camps in the Philippines. That's what they would have done.
>> Possibly.
>> Possibly 100% they would. What would Australia have done if um if we'd have had, you know, someone like Hamas come and do that to a bunch of Australian women and kill, 1200 of our people?
>> We wouldn't do jack
>> Well, I hope we would.
>> We wouldn't do jack except create more laws to make it even harder for Australia.
>> Well, look, yeah, and then that's because our country's in in decline. But, you know,
>> we're led by basically.
>> Yeah. Look, um you know, I think you can criticize um anyone's prosecution of any war. Uh but I think Israel had no choice but to go into Gaza and to try and clean up Hamas and Hamas, you know, they they pile of rubble now, though.
>> Uh well, look, you know, there's a lot of aid money. Yeah. And and you know, if you're going to if you're going to shoot at um you know, the IDF, you know, from inside houses you know, you're going to get bombed if you're going to
>> if you're going to use use women and children as human shields. Sadly, some of them are going to get shot. And as and I know the IDF have done their their best to try and avoid um and and their combatant to civilian casualty ratio is the lowest in the history of urban warfare in the postw World War II era.
>> War is dirty. Kids get killed. Everyone gets killed. Like, everyone dies. Like, this is this is how this works. There's no there's no there's no saints here, you know? I mean, I and and we get a hard time going, "Oh, you don't go hard enough on Islam." Look, I don't give a about either of you. Like, literally, I literally don't. I want you all out of my country right now,
>> mate. I think um we have to be very concerned about radical Islam. And I think Bondi is a big wakeup call, but I think October 7 was a big wakeup call for because for me, as I said, you know, seeing um all those Muslims on the forcourt of the opera house 2 days after October 7, uh saying gas the Jews, where's the Jews? F the Jews. And nothing happened to any of them. There's flares going off and Palestinian flags. And I felt deeply ashamed to be an Australian that day. I thought we have lost our nation that these people can go onto the forcourt of the most iconic building. You know, that speaks Australia. And these people went there glorifying a bunch of murderous, barbaric uh animals who went and raped uh I mean, what they did to women, what um the atrocities that they committed.
>> Uh anyone who who would rejoice at that and say, "Allah, Akbar, I'm smiling. This is a day of victory." A whole bunch of people have a whole bunch of people in Western Sydney cheering at that. Um we've got a big big problem if they don't have a moral compass. And you know, Christianity gives you a moral compass. Islam gives you a very different moral compass.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I I I take that on board. I don't disagree with you. Right. But both sides rape. Let's be clear about that. There is no side that's perfect here. Right. Look, I'm not here to defend Israel. I'm just not aware of Israel going in and raping a whole bunch of
>> There's a ton of allegations against
>> Well, there's also Well, I don't know.
>> No, no, but I guess the point I'm coming back to is that 87% of people under 33 years old have a unfavorable opinion of Israel. Right now, that there's a reason for that. They're not all lefties. Okay? There's a big chunk of right-wing kids in there as well and conservative kids that are going,
>> "Screw your in the Middle East. Keep it away from my country." That's what they're trying to say.
I
>> I don't have a problem with that view. Um, again, I would like that to be the case as well. The trouble is, um, you know, as you said, you know, we we went and fought in Afghanistan, but we've imported a whole bunch of these people who don't
>> you know who didn't fight in Afghanistan?
>> The IDF. you know who you know who didn't uh send troops into Iraq the IDF mate and so a lot of the Australian veterans here are going well hang on we fought the war on terror to defend our ally you know as well and uh we uh you guys didn't put any boots on the ground
>> yeah I I don't know all the reasons for that but um
>> and not only that but they recently said as well if there was an invasion of Iran they wouldn't be putting boots in Iran too so you know a lot of people watch this stuff and go
>> that seems a little bit unfair and I don't want to get into I think Israel are probably um and again I don't understand all their foreign policy but what I do see is that they've made themselves very very strong and they have the capability militarily to protect themselves whether it's Hezbollah whether it's making pages blow up in the faces of their enemies whether it's the capability to bomb Iran we have no capability to defend ourselves but why
>> so uh again because um we have bought into the whole globalist narrative and um the global No they didn't because
>> so they got a birth rate above three
>> correct They're they're an they're an ethnostate. Let's be clear about that. They are clearly an ethnostate and they've uh they you know carry a big stick.
>> Anyone who's got a birth rate above three means that their young people have hope in their future. Our birth rate has crashed to 1.4. Our young people don't have hope in their future because they can't buy into the nation
>> uh as we were saying before. So
>> is it the acidic Jews though that have a birth rate of I think they average about eight children mate. So you know that's what's keeping the rest of the country kind of propped up. Acidic Jews I think.
>> I I don't know. But um but look, it's a nation that's got a mission, its purpose, it's got national pride. Uh we've been told we're illegitimate. Uh and and we shouldn't we should just all be global citizens and accept anyone everyone from everywhere here and uh and let our identity.
>> Yeah, I think we could have taken a lesson out of Israel's. So I mean I and if and I go back to that thought experiment again of what would Israel do if Israel was Australia in this region? Uh they probably would have taken Teeour. They probably would have taken New Guinea. New Zealand would be a state of Australia. what they had to do to um well they haven't you know the only reason they got into Lebanon is to to drive back Hezbollah and obviously they push back the Iranians and the Syrians.
>> A lot of Christians in there though too.
>> Yeah. Look a lot of actually the largest the the I heard the highest proportion of Christians actually lived in that area and they've all had their houses bombed too. So
>> yeah look again I I don't suspect the Israeli um military is going there just to willingly bomb people. They're trying to clean out Hezbollah who hide among civilians. And this is the modus operando of these Islamic um jihadis. Unfortunately, it's very difficult.
The Israeli prime minister Herzog had a uh a secret meeting. Well, not secret, we knew about it, but they had a meeting with the the head of AIO. You know, why why would that happen?
>> Don't know. I mean, Israel,
>> this is this is a couple of months before the Iran issue kicked off as well.
>> Yeah, I I don't know, mate. I can't comment on that. Um I mean I've read the media reports about how Israel has shared intelligence with Australia that has thwarted terrorist attacks here. Um I'm glad there's you know security cooperation. I mean Msad are the best in the business in terms of um understanding their enemies. So if they can help us thwart terror here that's that's good. Look, you know, I I don't want to be an apologist for Israel. Um I admire Israel. I think it's a you know, an amazing nation what they've done. I don't look at it in theological or esqueological terms. Um, I just see it as a successful nation in the Middle East. They have a right to exist and uh, if we're attacked the way they were, I hope we would have the fortitude and and have the young people willing to, you know, defend the country. And at the moment, um, you know, polls show that, uh, a big proportion of our young people wouldn't even defend our nation in the way that my grandfather did in World War II.
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