Dr Steven Greer (WARNING): The Next 2 Years — World Peace or Disaster? | #1 Disclosure Expert

I'll give you a date. October 1954 is when we mastered what's called gravity control, and we then began to make man-made UFOs. Now, this astonishes people. I go, "Absolutely, this is true, and we can prove it." So that then opens up a whole question: How much of the phenomenon that people have ascribed to ET has actually been staged by those covert operations?

"It almost has me thinking, do you believe or do you feel that humanity, in times of past, has already been in contact with these extraterrestrial races?"

"For sure. I think all through the Americas. Um, if actually, you know, the Celtic with the Stonehenge, the pyramids, and South America, uh, and North America, native people talk about the star people and their contact. Um, I think globally we've never been alone, and there has been contact for millennia."

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"Dr. Steven Greer, welcome on. Just happened."

"I wanted to—"

"Good to see you too, brother. And I wanted to ask you, just to start off, what is one of the most important truths that you feel that is being revealed right now most strongly, uh, in humanity?"

"Well, I think the bigger truth is that we're not alone in the universe. And what the part of being missed is the motto of this organization. It's 'One Universe, One People.' Uh, you know, one of the problems with humans is that we tend to break into various factions and then go into warfare and conflict. This is a neurobiological, we're based in our primate chimpanzee, 98% of our DNA. Um, and the other part of us has to rise to the higher angels of, uh, higher consciousness, where we realize that we're all one people, not just on Earth, but in the universe. You know, and as the person who founded the Global Disclosure Movement that's now reached this kind of crescendo, we're about to have all this break out. We can talk about it. The big problem isn't going to be, you know, people getting their heads around the fact that we're not alone in the universe. Uh, it's going to be the battle for the minds and hearts of humanity. And that is, uh, do we go the path of the past, which is endless conflict around various differences, or do we rise to a higher understanding that results in universal peace, peace on Earth, and peace in space? And that's the big challenge of the day. And that's not discussed mostly, uh, at all in either the political or UFO circles, um, because people are still at the, let's say, kindergarten level of kicking the tires on UFOs. Uh, and, you know, the bigger issue, and not that that's not important, and we'll get into the technologies and why all that's very important, and why the whole subject's been banned and kept secret, but the bigger issue is going to be, I think, very soon, is how we as a people come together around understanding this. And do we use this as a sort of galvanizing moment of unity, um, that there's life that goes forever in the universe? Or are we going to use that, um, which is 99% of ufology, quite frankly, the narrative that there's us and them, and we need to fight them, and there are the good ones and there are the bad ones, and they're the cowboys and the Indians. And there's the basically, the whole UFO subculture is one vast cesspool of interspecies racism, as I see it, um, having grown up a child in the South when we still had Jim Crow laws and black and white water fountains. I don't see any difference between 99% of the UFO take, uh, on this subject, where the narrative becomes the good ones and the bad ones, and this and that, because that's exactly what we did with racism and homophobia and misogyny and everything else. So, one of the big challenges, I think, is for us to begin to understand what the nature of intelligent life is and what the foundation of consciousness is. And then we realize it's a universal constant, and that that's the point of oneness. That the point of oneness between humans and non-human intelligent beings is that we're all conscious and awake, and that field of consciousness is a deep spiritual state that you can experience. And then you realize that that is your foundation for peace and oneness, as opposed to division and conflict. So, I think that is paramount right now. It's not talked about much at all because people are still trying to, you know, when I go up to Capitol Hill and I'm, you know, with people in the Senate or House or people at the White House, which is right up the road here from me, down the road, uh, a mile. What I found is that there's a huge problem with people, you know, still at the stage of, well, what is a UFO and do they exist? And of course, that should have been settled and answered in 1945. But, um, here we are, still, you know, it's sort of the elementary level. But meanwhile, in covert programs and amongst the extraterrestrial peoples, things are coming to a head that the public doesn't understand. And quite frankly, the Congress and the president don't fully grasp yet. So that's one of the big tasks we have ahead of us is this big educational iterative process over and over and over again, because each time there's a new president or a new leadership in the House or the Senate, you have, you kind of have to start all over."

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"And Dr. Greer, if you were to take us from kindergarten to maybe high school or even college?"

"Right."

"How, how would you walk us to that level of understanding as the masses could understand this, in a way that is pinpoint what you've what you've discovered in your life?"

"You know, what's interesting is I had contact when I was eight years old. So this is, you know, I'm, I just turned 70. So it's a almost two-thirds of a century of experiencing this. So, um, I have that perspective on it, and it's a long perspective. I think the main problem when I first encounter, uh, general public, scientists, people not familiar with the subject, is to get down to basics, like, what is, what are we talking about? So the modern term is UAP. It used to be UFO. Um, before that, it was flying saucers. So it's evolved quite a bit."

"It's evolved."

"Now, that evolution in nomenclature and terms has been designed by, uh, psychological warfare experts at the CIA. I'll be quite blunt. It's really an offiscating term. For, I said for years, there's no such thing as an unidentified flying object. A, we know what they are. They're identified. B, they don't fly in any aerodynamic sense. They go from point A to B using very advanced physics that basically bends spacetime, and we can talk about that. And then, and then the only part of the term that's true is that they're objects. But even that isn't quite accurate, because they can actually drop out of spacetime and dematerialize and reappear at another point in spacetime. So they can be in a, in that, in between field. They're in a non-matter, beyond what we would call normal energy and matter, and what the mystic would call the near astral. It's a very subtle energy field. So these ET craft can go from full-on 3D solid into that other state, move across vast distances, or be hovering outside your window, you wouldn't see it with your physical eyes, and then rematerialize 3D. And this is transdimensional physics I'm talking about here, and it's very advanced physics. So, and it is physics. People call it paranormal or metaphysics. It isn't. It's a science. I mean, I always tell people, one man's magic is another man's, uh, science, depends on your level of accomplishment and intellect and scientific knowledge, really. And humans are just, you know, barely exploring the universe and the scientific world in the last couple hundred years. And we're dealing with civilizations that have been around hundreds of thousands to millions of years longer than we have. So almost every manifestation of an ET technology would look like magic to humans. Just like if we were to go and show, you know, Thomas Jefferson my iPhone, it would look like something magical. And that's just 200 years ago, right? So think about technologies that are 10 to the 6 to 10 to the 9th, 100,000 to a billion years ahead of where we are. Well, you're going to be dealing with some really strange stuff. Um, and that's the other problem. It's a paradigm crisis. So, that very first thing I do is to say, you have to look at this and then understand that there are three phenomena going on. There's the extraterrestrial, or the pop term now used by the military is non-human intelligence, NHI. Then you have, which is deliberately offiscating for a reason I'll get into. And then you also have the man-made UFOs, right? Or UAPs. 80% or more of all UFOs that people see are ours. You know, my uncle had his whole career at Northrup Grumman, uh, and he helped design the lunar module that landed on the moon with Neil Armstrong. So, this goes back decades where we had breakthroughs in studying extraterrestrial ET tech and then creating copycats. So, when we first broke through and started doing that in the '50s, um, they were pretty clunky, but they worked. They were anti-grav, electro-gravitic, gravity wave, you might call it, generation. Now they're so advanced that even the people on the retrieval teams in the desert that I work with, who, you know, target and down ET craft and retrieve them, have said they're virtually indistinguishable, uh, until you get very close to them, the man-made ones from the ET ones. So, and then the third category. So, you have ET, you have man-made, and then you have what are known as interdimensional or extradimensional phenomena, which, you know, people like Congresswoman Luna has just gotten brainwashed by lunatics in the UFO subculture that it's all interdimensional. Well, what she doesn't understand is all ET civilizations, to go from point A to B through the vastness of the cosmos, go out of linear spacetime into other dimensions and back out of those dimensions into 3D, because you can't go in a straight line or in a solid state of matter across beyond the speed of light. Einstein was right. As you approach the speed of light, you take on infinite mass. And so you have to drop out into a state of masslessness. Masslessness means, boom, you've disappeared out of linear spacetime, and you're in another dimension. But at the same time, there are actual phenomena that are from another dimension. So, an ET craft is traversing various dimensions. I call them transdimensional interstellar vehicles, right? TDIS. Man-made ones are not at that level, but they're pretty good at fooling people. And then you have phenomena. It's kind of like that Netflix show. I think that was sort of a spin-off of a whole bunch of information I put out about 20 years ago called Stranger Things, where there were these bizarre things that came out of Montauk and other secret labs where they were tapping into these other dimensions, and these weird creatures, you know, would pop into this dimension. I think things like Bigfoot and whatnot are interdimensional or extradimensional beings. So, you have these three major, major categories, but no one's actually doing a proper, uh, categorization and understanding. And I know this sounds very intellectual, but, you know, I like, I'm a trauma doctor. So if someone, you know, in an emergency setting, if someone comes in with a heart, chest pain, a bad doctor would say, "Oh, gee, it's a heart attack." Well, maybe it's a dissecting thoracic aneurysm. Maybe it's pleurisy. Maybe it's a pulmonary embolism. Maybe it's a whole bunch of things. Maybe it's gastric reflux from the stomach. So, what's happened in ufology and in this subject, the lack of just basic understanding has caused this confusion of the paradigm. I call it cosmological indigestion. Uh, and there's a cosmological understanding. So, a whole new understanding of the cosmos and how its structure that has to be, and it sounds esoteric perhaps, but it's foundational, because if you don't understand that, you're going to confuse an extradimensional being with an extraterrestrial being with some weird man-made fake thing. Right? And that's what's happened. So, the first thing you have to do with each case and with any phenomenon is at least have an operating paradigm so that you can reach some level of, uh, truthful discernment that has never happened, ironically. So, that's what one of the things that we try to bring to that. So, when I go into a, I know the first time I was at the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee skiff, a secure compartmented information facility, it's where top-secret information is exchanged, and I was escorted in. And this, what I just told you, was the very first thing I went through, is that, you know, you need to not get confused between. Now, this was shocking to him, because do you know that the right-hand people for the Senate Intelligence Committee chair and co-chair, and the Armed Services Committee chair and co-chair, had no idea that there were man-made UFOs? None. When I first met with them. Now they do. But that is, that was a huge learning curve. But you have the same problem with the new president. You have the same problem with people in the House of Representatives who are just now looking into this, right? And they're very, get very confused. And it makes it worse because there are people deliberately confusing them. They go up there to deliberately mix all this together in sort of a cosmic blender and then gaslight them. So that is a very dangerous game that's been played for since the 1950s. Remember, I have a letter in our archive. People who want to see it, they can go to dpiarchive.com. We have terabytes of data that we released to the public, and everyone should study it. It would take you several lifetimes to get through it, but it's basically everything I've ever collected is in this archive, except some of the information of people's, you know, whistleblower names that we can't release, um, because they don't want to be known publicly, right? Um, and I honor those confidences. But, but what you find in there is that, you know, we established this paradigm and these distinctions back in about 1990, '91. So before you were born, I suspect, and it's been ignored. And the problem is that without that understanding, you're going to get misled. And this is being done deliberately. In other words, if everyone at the Pentagon, say the new Secretary of Defense, Hagel, who's new to all this, or the new national security advisory team, or the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, if they don't know anything about the subject, and people come in, this has happened, and they will then conflate the actual ET events with the man-made hoaxed events with weird and scary extradimensional events, right? So, it may be some boogeyman or something from the ninth ring of hell. I mean, it has nothing to do with ETs, you know, it's a whole mix-up that is being done very carefully and deliberately by operatives for this cabal that have kept this secret for 80 years. And I would say that 90% or more of all people who study this, who are not government officials but just general UFO folks, have been completely confused by this mythology that's a false myth designed to confuse people, but more importantly, to have people reach false conclusions about the actual extraterrestrial civilizations. The goal of all of that deliberate offiscation and confusion is to cause people to think, "Oh, you know, we're under attack from aliens," or "Aliens are doing terrible things." Those terrible things people hear about are being staged by humans and are, uh, a psychological warfare operation. Now, how do we know this? Because we have people that we have debriefed who have been operational men who have been on man-made UFOs, who have engaged in mutilations, uh, kidnapping, abductions, human trafficking, etc. And now we have whistleblowers coming forward exposing this. But the general public has this misunderstanding, and there is a race, uh, from our team of whistleblowers and information and the disinformation folks like Luis Elizondo and others who keep pushing this false narrative. Now, the goal of the false narrative, basically what they're saying is, we don't have anything that flies like this. Any UFO in the sky you see is alien. Now, this is, of course, allows for people to think that any horrible thing that a UFO does is being done by extraterrestrials instead of by a counter-intelligence, covert, psychological warfare operation that's been going since about 1953. So, I have a document from 1953 that describes using this subject for its psychological warfare purposes. I'm quoting from the document. It's in our archive. So anybody who can read, go there and look for it. Um, you know, and we have these, the archive organized into various categories, and there's a whole section on government documents, and they're organized by country and agency and all that. So it's in there. Um, now, the other, the other part of this is, is I, and this has been the hardest thing to get through to, let's say, because this is all coming out, there are going to be hearings and more hearings on this, is getting them to understand that these technologies are way beyond anything that you can imagine that we have now. You can imagine an extraterrestrial vehicle is going to be extraordinarily advanced, and it took a long time of studying the ones that we had shot down with, uh, energy weapons, directed energy weapons, to figure out how they were. But I'll give you a date. October 1954 is when we mastered what's called gravity control, and we then began to make man-made UFOs. Now, this astonishes people. I go, "Absolutely, this is true, and we can prove it." So that then opens up a whole question: How much of the phenomenon that people have ascribed to ET has actually been staged by those covert operations to fulfill the agenda that Wernher von Braun, who invented the rocket for Adolf Hitler, said on his deathbed to my friend Carol Rosin, he said, "They are going to hoax an alien attack. They're going to create a threat from space because what they want to do is unite the world not in peace, not in enlightenment, but in interplanetary war, fear of something else." And it's moving the whole, you know, conflict game between races and countries and financial systems and economic systems, you know, capitalism versus socialism versus communism versus whatever, anarchism. They're wanting to move that up to a higher level where the world gets united, but not in peace, but in a totalitarian fascist approach where everyone is under the thumb of Big Daddy, uh, military-industrial complex, which is exactly what Eisenhower warned us of, uh, when he left office in 1961, and he said, "Beware the military-industrial complex." So, the long game, and this has been a 70-year plan, is all about to break one way or another. All right? Is either going to break into some, a series of things that are going to stampede the world, uh, tragically, into thinking we're under some kind of alien attack from outer space, or the truth is going to come out like I've described, and we're going to pivot to that being a singular moment that unites the world, but not in fear, but in peace and in understanding. There's a whole new chapter in human civilization that can open that has free energy, that eliminates poverty, that these technologies are used for the good of humanity, that the environment is turned into a pristine state within 20 years, literally within 20 years, within your lifetime, maybe God willing, my lifetime, if I live to be that old, uh, we would see that. Now, the other path is dystopia, of totalitarian, endless war. So, that's the real battle, and it's an information warfare. And I would say, unfortunately, it may come out the terrifying way, and then people will learn the hard way that we have to take another path. But if it comes out in the way that I warned about, then it's going to be catastrophic. It'll be an extinction-level event for humans. Um, and so this is why we have to be very careful right now. And this is why I've advised people, very close friends to the president, he's learning about this, but he's got to be extremely careful with what he says. Um, same thing with people in the Senate, um, the leadership in the United Kingdom, the European Union, religious leaders. I'm back-channeling this messaging to leaders all over the world, saying, "We've got to be very careful as all this begins to come out more and more in the mainstream media," and then eventually, as it's fully disclosed, how it's spoken about and how it's looked at, because the dominant paradigm is one that would put us on an interplanetary war footing, which is the end of civilization as we know it. So, I think the stakes are larger than people realize, and there's not many voices of reason out there. I'd say for every person saying what I'm saying, there are a thousand, uh, people pushing the war agenda and the evil alien agenda and the conflict agenda. Um, and guess why that makes sense? Because that's where all the money is. That's where all the power is. I mean, people forget, in 1992, as a young doctor, the head of Army Intelligence, who was a total fascist, offered me two billion dollars, billion, to be on his team and be part of that group of little goosestepping nut jobs, but, uh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm very blunt, but, you know, I, I said no. Gracias. I'm not interested. I was saying, you know, you know, stuff it up your ass, you know, but I was not interested in that. And of course, he went to my wife and tried to convince her to convince me. And the way he couched it was that there was a board seat open on this international group that runs these covert programs, and, oh, we want you to be on it because you really understand it, and blah, blah, blah. And it was, he was trying to buy me off. And now I was offered $2 billion. I know that I met with a man who's part of that, uh, let's say, CIA cutouts, corporate people who work, uh, with that organization, and he told me point blank in '93 that he, that they had given at least 10,000 people $10 million a piece or more to secure their cooperation with that agenda, this terrible agenda. And I know this to be a fact. So, when you hear these people out there in the UFO sphere who suddenly have all this money and influence, or they're suddenly on 60 Minutes, CBS, right, like Elizondo, because those people have been assigned to do that, and those doors have opened, and pathways have opened because they're carrying the message, the false message of conflict and partial disclosure, false disclosure. So, that's the real battle going on.

About a year ago to the date, um, I was, I found myself in Miami. I was at the Forbidden Conscious Awards, where you were given the Lifetime Achievement Award, and you said that there was good news. You said that there is 500,000 years of human history that is about to unfold, an entirely new era. And the moment you said that, uh, it got you very emotional. There was an immediate standing ovation for you."

"I got emotional too. I just connected with your mission strongly. So, I'm really curious to know, you said that this year is an inflection point."

"Yeah."

"For what's coming and these two timelines that you highlighted."

"What will it take for us to be on that timeline of love and of unity consciousness?"

"Well, you know, it's a multi-faceted strategy. There's what I'm, we're doing with the political, you know, leadership and with the public education, and then there's what we're doing covertly. So, just speak— Oh, have to be careful here. But there are law enforcement folks and special forces people, people who have been, um, uh, in the special forces of the military who have left the military and have agreed to take on a very dangerous mission. Um, and I'm providing the intelligence and information and a lot of the strategy of what they need to do. There are law enforcement at a senior federal level that have reached the same conclusion that I reached after I briefed Clinton's first CIA director. And that is that this is a criminal organization. It's the world's largest RICO racketeering influence corrupt organization, and that, uh, all manner of crimes have been committed, and they are pursuing those as of this moment. Um, and I'm very involved in assisting with that process. Now, the whistleblowers we have, we now have over 750, some that I've debriefed over the years. There's a core of them that I'd say the top 45 or 50 that we've handed over to provide intel and information and to be interrogated so that they can get specific information on where these illegal operations are located, which underground bases, how to get in them, and how to neutralize them, take them out. Um, because these are very dangerous operations where extremely advanced technologies are tracking and targeting, uh, ET craft and downing them. And so, one of the things that has to happen to create a clear, a clear path where we can have a peaceful dialogue and peaceful contact with these civilizations is to stand down this very dangerous, uh, covert organization that's gotten completely out of control. I mean, when I say out of control, nobody on the oversight committees or in the White House have any control over them. None. When I say none, I mean none. And so that is a very dangerous thing because they have technologies that are way more advanced than anything that the mainstream, uh, uh, Pentagon or or even mainstream CIA can have. This is a very compartmented operation with enormous technology centered mainly in the corporate world and the big aerospace and contracting companies, such as my uncle's old company, Northrup Grumman, Lockheed, Martin Skunk Works, Raytheon, SAIC, Booz Allen Hamilton, you know, EG&G, etc. And we know who they are, and we know where their assets are. Okay? Because I've debriefed people who have been whistleblowers bringing me that intelligence. Now, until a few years ago, I had collected this, but nobody wanted to pursue it. Now, there's a very heavily, uh, let's say, empowered entity that is pursuing it on behalf of the legal and constitutional government of the United States. So this is a very big and positive breakthrough, because if that doesn't happen, you know, because, you know, we, the other part of this, I'm going to get to in a minute, is that the general public should be doing C5 contact. That's this, you know, because, and by the way, those of you who want to come, we're going to do a whole mass consciousness meditation and contact out in the desert outside Scottsdale on some Native American land, uh, in September, September, uh, 15th, no, uh, 19th, 20th, and 21st. And you all can come. If you can't be there in person, you can be there the whole weekend by webinar. Um, but what we're going to do is do a mass consciousness effect to make contact and to do meditations that shift human consciousness towards this good future, the sustainable future, the future of universal peace, not just world peace. So that's what that'll be. And the reason that's important is that when people come together in any number and meditate and visualize and see that and actually take action, it actually alters the whole consciousness of everyone on Earth. It isn't just affecting the people there, it's affecting everybody. So, it's very powerful for people to come together and do that. But even with that, if you have a ball of, I hate to say it, sociopaths and psychopaths who possess that kind of technology where they reverse-engineered extraterrestrial electronics and systems that are hundreds of thousands of years more advanced than what the normal person knows about, and those have been turned into weapon systems, and those weapon systems are targeting ET craft and other places out in space, right? Because they're going beyond the speed of light. They're not going at the speed of a laser or light. They're going beyond the speed of light. These are quantum potential weapons that are scalar, that go way beyond the speed of light, and are very dangerous. And these are in the underhand control of not rational people in government, but by people who are power-hungry thugs, and they're deadly, and they kill people who get in their way. I mean, there have been people that since I've been getting these folks read in or briefed, have had a couple of people who have been assassinated, and these people who are in special forces who have agreed to do this have actually done things to help their families, and they've accepted the fact they were very well could be assassinated. So, you know, it's a very serious thing going on. But, uh, if that doesn't get, let's say, if we don't stand down those most dangerous aspects, how can we at the same time invite the ET craft to come in 3D? Because they're going to get blown out of the sky, right? So, the C5 contact, I've known this for 30 years, so we've been doing C5 contact. They do come in. They'll be in for a short time, or maybe they won't be solid 3D, and then they vanish. Why? Because it's dangerous for them to be 3D in an area because the satellites, ground-based radar and systems, aircraft are going to pick that up and triangulate them and strike them. So, I always tell people, we need to be doing C5 contact, but we also have to understand there are these very advanced weapon systems that are a threat to our visitors, to our friends from other star systems. So, we have to be mature about it, not childish. You know, we can be childlike and pure-hearted, but we can't be childish. Childish is acting like, you know, all is right in the world and there's no threat out there. Well, there is. I mean, there are some very dangerous, uh, people with extremely advanced technologies. Yeah."

"For those of you listening who are new to this, visualize the head, the very famous head of the Lockheed Skunk Works, which is the top-secret aerospace engineering entity out in the desert there in California. His name is Ben Rich. And we have a letter from him acknowledging that there were both man-made and extraterrestrial UFOs from the head of the Skunk Works. It's in the archives. Go read it. Now, because I deal only with facts and evidence, and before he died, a friend of mine, James Goodall, who's a famous aerospace historian and writer, he talked to Ben Rich, and this was in '95, 1995, and it was about a week before he died. He had cancer, and he said to him, Ben said, 'Anything you can imagine, anything you've seen on Star Trek, we've already done at the Lockheed Skunk Works, and it's out in the desert.' And he specifically said, 'Not Area 51.' He was talking about a place where I have been, that's where there are underground openings out in the desert where there are these vast complexes where we have the most extraordinary technologies that have been reverse-engineered from extraterrestrial technologies."

"Now, the good news is, here's the good news. Here's the peace dividend for this. Everything we need to create a civilization with free energy, no poverty, abundance, already exists. It doesn't even have to be invented. It's already been done. The bad news is the worst people on Earth, the most sociopathic thugs you will ever encounter, have it. That's the truth. Not, and the president and people in Congress, I meet with these sort of folks, and they have no idea the extent to which this has happened because it's been going on since Eisenhower's era, because Eisenhower, by the way, trusted people he shouldn't have. And he's the one who lost control of those projects around 1957, '58. Um, he was read in. President Eisenhower knew about the issue. So did Truman. At that time, things were being run relatively legally as a top-secret program studying the technology. But once they got that big breakthrough in 1954 and mastered gravity control and realized they could build their own UFOs, right, they then started pushing Eisenhower aside because he wanted to disclose this. He wanted us to go to a more peaceful approach to the ETs and lay down our nuclear weapons and stop shooting at the ET craft, make peace with the Soviet Union. That's what Eisenhower wanted to do. And this group of warmongers said, 'Oh, no, you're not.' And they basically committed treason, high treason. And so that organization went off outside the Constitution and outside oversight and control in the late '50s, and it has never to this date been brought back under control. The only president who made a serious effort, well, there are two who made a serious effort to fix the problem. One was killed, and that's Jack Kennedy. The other one, Bill Clinton, who, when we first put this effort together, formed a team of people of special forces to try to take down these black illegal programs. But all those men were either killed or absorbed into the black world. It was called Team Red, is what Clinton had. And remember, after he, when he got inaugurated in '93, the first thing President Clinton wanted to know about, one of the first things, is this issue. And then eventually, I briefed his CIA director, his first CIA director. And that's when I learned that the president, the CIA director, and people like that were not being allowed to even get information on the subject, never mind control it. And that's the date. It was December 13th, 1993, was the date that I realized that there was a totally unconstitutional shadow government running things. Not a conspiracy theory, a fact. Now, most people speculate, but I started out 32 years ago briefing the CIA director for President Clinton. So, I don't speculate. I know at that point I knew for a goddamn fact that this whole operation, you know, centered in these aerospace giants and in certain compartmented military and intelligence operations, had escaped the Constitution, the rule of law, and was an existential threat to humanity. So that was, that was when my life turned upside down, frankly. As a doctor, it went, 'Oh my God, now what?' You know, and then trying to take care of shootings and stabbings and car wrecks and raise four daughters while taking this on, right? That's what happened 32 years ago. But, you know, I, I've never not, I've never regretted, you know, trying to fix the problem. Um, it's been very, very difficult, of course, but, uh, and it's all coming to a head, I think, in the next two years, maybe six months. I know what's going on behind the scenes, um, that I can't talk about, and it's, it's coming to a real inflection point. So, here's the choice there. It's a bifurcation. You know, we're, we're on this path right now. We're on a path towards what the Hopi prophecy shows in their Hopi prophecy line, sort of an end of things. But there's also another Hopi prophecy line that goes on forever, right? And goes up and out. So, I think we're at this point where we humans, all of us together, in our consciousness, thoughts, prayers, and doing C5 contact, need to create a morphogenic field, an energy that sweeps the planet that turns that curve towards the Hopi prophecy line that goes on forever peacefully. It isn't going to happen by itself, my friends. It's going to happen by us coming together and making it happen, because this is a planet of free will. You know, that's so humans born in the, you know, created in the image of God. Well, what does that mean? It means that we can possess very high consciousness, but we also have free will, which means we can use it for good, or we can use it for destruction. We can create and sustain life, or we can destroy life. And at this point, we can save the planet and the biosphere and secure it for hundreds of thousands of years in the future, or we have the means to destroy it right now. You know, look at the movie Oppenheimer, and you know, you know, where he says, you know, 'I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' Well, um, that was just the atomic weapon. We're dealing with technologies a thousand times more deadly than a nuclear weapon that this covert group has. So, these are huge issues that nobody is really talking and thinking about, because unfortunately, everyone's still at the stage of what I said at the beginning, kicking the tires of the UFOs, not even knowing which ones are man-made and which ones are ET, or why the ETs are here, which is a very peaceful mission to try to stabilize and engage the Earth without invading it. You know, that's a prime directive. It sounds corny, but they are not to just come in and do everything. Um, because, you know, it wouldn't work. You know, unless a species evolves organically, it isn't going to happen. So, what I saw when I was a young boy, um, yeah, I, you know, I had this amazing experience where I went out into the future, and I saw the future. And I saw that there would be a time when I was older than I was then. I was maybe, I'm thinking 18 or 20, I don't know. Um, and I saw a person, a time where the US military would be supporting peaceful C5 contact and securing an area, and that the ETs would come, and there would be a daytime landing and event, just a small egg-shaped craft with an ET elder that the entire world would see. It was a crystal clear lucid dream. And I met my wife in a lucid dream. I, everything important I have is in a precognitive dream, and I've been like that since I was a child. Maybe it's the Cherokee. My grandmother was full Cherokee. So, I think there's a native people have that proclivity. Perhaps, or maybe it was just, it was wrung out of them by the priests, uh, in Europe, you know. But whatever it is, you know, I always had that sort of, uh, ability to see the future. And it was such a beautiful vision. And then I saw us going into this whole era where wars had stopped, we'd become peaceful on Earth, but we were also working peacefully with the ETs, and these technologies all came out, and it just created a totally new world, a totally unbelievable world. You can't even imagine the difference. So, I mean, in literally in 20 years, the world would be more different then than than now is from 10,000 years ago. So, it would just be this huge transformation. Now, the other path to be taken, where, you know, we go into a very conflict-oriented situation, which is what's being pushed by ufology and the abduction cults and Elizondo and all those people, they want endless war, and they're trying to mislead people in Congress and the White House, Donald Trump Jr., and others, into that direction. So, I think that this is a very big crisis of information, but also perspective, and we're going to have to all sort of fight against that false narrative because the future of the planet is hanging in the balance. And I'm not trying to be melodramatic. You can't overstate the consequences. But even if we blow things, what I think will happen, it'll be like the Phoenix scenario, if we're going to Phoenix in a month, where out of that conflict and ashes, this Phoenix takes off, and we reemerge. But, you know, it's a shame to have something happen where we lose five or six billion people, which is what that would be, um, a very serious issue here. I don't want to get too far into that, but, you know, the choice we have to make soon is grave, and will have grave consequences if we miss the window. There's a window and a way to disclose this and fix this problem. But we don't have 80 years. I mean, we've been fooling around since 1945 with this, when we, you know, detonated the first atomic weapon and the ET showed up, and we started downing them. That's been, that was before Roswell. This has been going on since the mid-40s. Um, and so we're at this point right now where we have this enormous civilizational choice that will have consequences literally for the next 500,000 years on Earth."

"So, it's our choice. It's our collective choice. Now, one of the problems with people today, um, versus some years ago when people actually were activists, um, on meaningful things, you know, I mean, is that people just sit gobbling up nonsense with social media and boob tube, YouTube, and whatnot, and they don't do anything because they become passive. The screen makes people passive. People need to actually put their shoulder to the wheel. They need to go out, put their things down, make go out and form a C5 contact group. You can get an app that is a very extensive training program for remote viewing, doing C5 contact, and it's, you know, in the app stores for iPhones and whatever the others are, Google or whatever. Um, and you can really do it. But I mean, we've had people who are just truck drivers in Croatia write to us where they were in a, you know, pulled their truck over to rest at night and did it, and the craft would materialize and come over the cab and all this stuff. So, you know, we need to have a huge group of people who begin to do this seriously all the time so that we're showing the ETs another side of humanity. You know, there's the side that they're always seeing, which is either ignorance, apathy, or violence being targeted. There aren't many, there aren't enough humans doing something enlightened and peaceful and proactive where we go out and say, 'Okay, the definition of a Close Encounter of the Fifth Kind, you can see the movie, by the way, is when you go out and you invite.' I don't like the term 'call.' You don't call them like a butler, you know, right?"

"Yeah, it's demeaning. I hate it when people say, 'I'm going to call them.' No, you're not. You're going to invite them as an ambassador."

"So, we call this whole program we're doing at, uh, in Arizona in September, 'Ambassadors to the Universe,' where we literally train people to look at themselves unofficially, but still, it's like a people's citizens' peace movement to become ambassadors from humanity to these civilizations in small teams. Now, we're going to be doing it with hundreds of people, but you can do it with just a handful of people out anywhere quietly. And you'd be very surprised if you do it with a pure heart and a clear intention, uh, that how frequently the ETs will show up in one way or another, because they're very eager to find humans that are not asleep, but also that aren't violent, just trying to shoot them down. So, I tell people, we need to be the frontline right now. Uh, there aren't any ambassadors from countries or the United Nations assigned to this. So that's our job. Now, maybe someday, the Secretary of State, who right now is Marco Rubio, he is actually one of the most knowledgeable people who had been with the Senate Intelligence Committee with pushing investigations on this, and we provided enormous amount of information to him. Um, and so, you never know. I mean, Mike, by the way, our project is global and nonpartisan. He happens to be a Republican. He could be a Democrat. He could be, I wouldn't give a rat's ass. I mean, it's irrelevant. Um, because the truth is, whoever is in power, we have to deal with them. Um, and globally, it's the same thing. I mean, we deal with people all over the world in government. Um, you know, Canada, the UK, Australia, European Union. It's something that, you know, I have to do. Uh, and when I go to these other countries, I speak the same way. I, it's a very universal message. So, we have to be very careful about it not just being an American issue or a partisan issue. It has to be a universal issue."

And I'm very, very careful about that. Um, because otherwise this whole subject could get sidetracked into another partisan shitow, you know, a partisan conflict. And that's the worst case scenario, frankly. Um, and I won't let that happen, at least under my watch. I mean, there may be people who will try, but it has to stay very nonpartisan. Um, because it is a issue that affects every soul on Earth and the souls on other planets that are increasingly vulnerable to, uh, violent covert programs that have technologies that are reaching parody. They're almost as good as what the ETs have. And that's dangerous because they're not being supervised and they're sociopaths. They literally are people who love war and conflict and the accumulation of vast amounts of power and money irregardless of who they hurt. That is the very definition of a sociopath. Um so they're high functioning sociopaths. I know them. I know some of them. Uh and so I think that the good people of the earth need to come together and show a different face of humanity to the ETSs, right? And don't sit on your hands, folks, waiting for the secretary of state or the president or the UN secretary general. I always have said if the people will lead, the leaders will follow. We have to be the we have to lead.

>> And Dr. Greer, we're also seeing this new generation come in that is very highly awakened, conscious. At the same time, we're getting pacified by all of these social media, Tik Tok, all these things. So, >> when you tune into the younger generations, >> what gives you in a sense hope that they could be the leaders that you've been looking for for the last 40 years? and and how would you educate them on that to become those leaders that advocate for peace and unity?

>> Yeah. Well, step one, you need to be educated, which is also very not popular now because it requires discipline and time and everyone is sort of has a uh what I call digital ADD or ADHD because they're all split all over the place with their digital devices. But you really I know I sound like a tough professor, but you actually do need to drill down and master the information, you know. Um, so think of this as something it's like a a a home course of study going through our archive and and the C5 contact training app where you master it. So this this requires some self-discipline to do uh so that's step one. Um step two would then do to do something. So, you know, organize C5 contact group in your area, but also write to your members of Congress or parliament or the president and express that you want this taken care of. Um, on our website, drstephengrer.com, you know, there are actually draft letters for you to write to to to these people. When I meet with people in the Congress and also White House people, they say, "We really need to hear from the constituents. We really need to hear from the public." So we have to go into that next step of not just knowing about it but then doing something and that next step of doing something is where most people fail. I think that on this subject it's so interesting. It's sort of a um a hobby for delatants and people who are curious but not that many people get are serious about it where they do anything. We need people who are going to be leaders and take it seriously quite frankly. Um and there is encouraging signs. You know there are people who are in their uh 30s for example um younger than my daughters are now. My oldest daughter is just turning 45. Um, and they are taking a real leadership role with the whistleblowers because some of them are young Marine or special forces guys who are now pulling have pulled out of the military and are working on this and you know and people like Michael Herrera who is a Marine who encountered u one of these objects. He'll be hopefully we're hoping he will be at this uh event in September because he is a major whistleblower who I've brought to a number of meetings with the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Pentagon and and the House Oversight Committee. But um you know and he was there when he saw one of these big man-made ones uh loading crded up humans that were being uh kidnapped and abducted for human experimentation. uh when he was on a rescue mission for the Marines in Indonesia in 2009 after that terrible earthquake and tsunami. So um you know we have those sort of people coming forward and he's not just a whistleblower, he's also actively involved in organizing and working with whistleblowers and helping. So we need more people like that, you know, to come forward. Um, and uh but but I think everyone can form their own contact group. Why not? Uh it it's very low tech. You don't need much to do it. Uh anyone who is conscious can do it. If you're if you're awake and you're a human being, you can learn to be aware of awareness and then use that awareness of awareness to remote view or see remote places and then turn it over into an active vector where you show the ETSs where you are. It's like this Google Zoom where you zoom into the earth. You show them where you are and you invite them within the paradigm of peaceful contact. Not just you want you don't don't do it like oh I just want to be entertained like I'm going to SeaWorld and see dolphins jumping through oops. It should be a sincere wanting to be at service to this larger purpose and in a pure-hearted way to be a contact uh a peaceful contact to these civilizations. If you do it with a clearer mind and a pure heart, they will contact you. The ETSs will contact you.

>> It almost seems like the more evolved a civilization is, the more heartbased that that civilization is. Have Have you noticed that in these types of contacts with these beings?

>> No, they're all they're very What's interesting, I feel like a oneman anti-defamation league for extraterrestrials. They're portrayed horribly in all the movies and and UFO lore. Uh but in reality, they're extremely intelligent, very peaceful, and they're very loving. I've never I mean, I've been for since I was 8 years old, uh had contact and I I've led thousands of people in events where we've had craft and being ET beings show up even in our circle. If you look at the movie Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind, you'll see that. So what I have found is that they are universally if they're allowed out of their solar system, they're very enlightened. This is why humans can't go out of our solar system until we become peaceful. Uh and they are very loving and heart-c centered and it's like that whole heart math, you know, where it's the mind and the heart together. Uh, and they're they're now there are some that are the let's call them the cosmic special forces guys that are uh but they're like the special forces guys I know. I mean, they're you don't want to cross them, but they're actually big big-hearted, bravehearted people who are there. And, you know, the one who's the one the leader of some of these, he came to my place here in DC a few years ago and he gave me a a pen, but you know, like you wear special forces and it said in Latin to liberate the oppressed and that is their motto. So the whole earth now is being oppressed and humanity by a cabal of nutty people who have run it into the ground and who want endless war. And so you know I call these the the good warriors. Well there are ETSs out there who are very enlightened but they're also the ones who protect larger cosmic interests other worlds. And there I I know who that species is. There are several, but there's one in particular assigned to Earth that's like that. And they're they're formidable. I will tell you that they're very formidable.

>> Do they have a name?

>> Well, I mean, I don't use a name. I mean, I I know who they are and we've had contact with them. We have some images of them. They're like 10 to 12 feet tall and misomorphic. I mean, I'm a bodybuilder, but they're I'm like Tiny Tim by comparison, but they're they're amazing species, and that is their purpose. Their craft is usually a uh kind of boomerang shaped or sometimes arrowheadshaped kind of golden ship, and we've had those around us, and they're protective detail.

>> There was an attempt.

>> I know this is getting into some weird stuff, huh? Not at all. Not at all. This is this is the sweet spot.

>> But I wanted to bring up in in Miami uh last year you mentioned that there was an attempt on you uh in October.

>> And >> as we talk about that in that sense, you know, there almost seems like there's a spiritual protection around you and around others that are bringing this truth out to the world. What what insights have you gathered around that spiritual protection that you receive and and the others receive as well?

>> Oh, I have no doubt that that it's but I don't take it for granted. I mean, um, you know, I I accepted a long time ago that I could be killed at any time, but um, and I have had a few serious assassination attempts, but I think they haven't succeeded for various reasons. Uh, one is I think there is this level of spiritual protection and ET protection. The other is that, you know, I have a dead man trigger, which if I were to die, there are things that I have never discussed or released that would be released on blockchain through the internet and would be devastating for this cabal. And the other is that the um I I think they the there there are some people in the covert world dealing with this subject. Well, I don't think I know for a fact who have my back and uh because they know we're doing the right thing and they're in the shadows and I know that they are. Um, but I think that to the extent I've had those terrible things happen, it's more been a psychological harassment, like can I overcome it? Um, and and it, you know, it's a speed bump, like a big speed bump you hit. Um, and you know in October, it will be two years in this October and someone sawed through the bolt on my bicycle seat and it snapped off and I was going very fast uh on one of the Rock Creek trails out here in outside DC and I went down and my left foot came off and there my both bones were in the air. My right shoulder, left shoulder was ripped off and my abdomen was split open and I had four surgeries, four surgeries in about three months and had to be, you know, a lot of rehab. But I'm back to doing everything. Although I'm staying off the bicycle. I'm kind of I got a PTSD. If a bike goes by fast, I go. But um, but you know, it it it slowed me down for a few months. But you know, but it was a tempered. And I've had other things similar. You know, I had three people in my team. We all got metastatic cancer the same month. And I was supposed to die first. Um, this was in 96 97, but uh I survived. Um, and the others did die. Very aggressive, weird. I think they were electronically induced cancers. Um, and so you know that's a long time ago almost 20 years ago or 30 and so I you know I sort of like you know you get brick and mortar and wall it up and go forward right you sort of okay that that was terrible but now what's the next thing so you know you got to be a bit of a spirit warrior you know you can't take this on and be sort of every and this is one let me get to this this is one of the real problems with our leadership is that you don't find many politicians, lawyers, wealthy business, entitled, privileged people with that kind of courage. Your special forces guys, yes, and certain people, but I'm telling you, if you move in this direction where you're making a big difference globally on this, you're going to have everything thrown at you. Like recently, I had several members of Congress tell me that uh there are a lot of them that can't talk to me because Lou Alzando and David Grush had told them that I'm a Russian sleeper agent, that I'm a Russian spy, which is of course absurd. But these members of Congress, oh my god, we don't want to get caught up in a spy ring and Dr. Greer's a Russian spy. I mean, just batshit, insane, crazy stuff, right? So this is constant this psychological warfare and physical things. But you know in 93 when I said well if I'm going to do or 94 actually is when I decided full steam ahead damn their torpedoes right but it you know it has not been a pleasant journey. Some of it's been beautiful, particularly the C5 contact part. That's what I love the most. But this other part of it has been terrible. You know,

>> what other beautiful experiences have been brought to you on this path of of seeking out this truth and bringing it to the masses as well?

>> Oh gosh, there have been so many. Um, you know, we have a book called uh extraterrestrial uh contact countdown to transformation that goes through years of uh of these contact experiences with our teams and they're just beautiful like um I I know this is in this in the close encounters of the fifth kind movie but it was such a beautiful and there are many stories like this that we were up in this place in the mountains outside Tucson on uh a few years ago doing C5 contact with a a a smaller group maybe about 25 30 people and there was a a elderly gentleman who had had almost total hearing loss since he was in middle school I think or teenager and uh we were in circle and we were doing our C5 contact and I heard behind me some footsteps and and so did I had a friend next to me who is a younger guy about your age who is a medical student. Uh and then next to him was this uh older gentleman who had had the hearing loss. And I I I said to everyone, we were in meditation. I said, "There's someone walking behind us." Now, you could hear the footsteps, but the person it was cloaked. You couldn't see the person. Uh the ET, it was an ET. And so to to my left was David Maronei who wrote Enemy of the State that if you saw the movie Enemy of the State, he did the screenplay and a great movie about the National Security Agency and brilliant guy. He had a really highresolution Nikon camera on a tripod with a remote to turn it on. And I said, "David, take a picture here." Because by then this ET had moved between the medical student and this elderly gentleman with the hearing loss. And in that picture is this ET with a very kind of praying mantis shaped head triangular and sort of a beak and but all we saw it was interesting with the naked eye all we saw was a ruby red object like a teardrop but the camera because of their uh light cells got the whole being and subsequently that night we continued the being dematerialized but was around us. The older gentleman stayed out till like the wee hours before dawn kind of communing and connecting with this ET and parenthetically at the very end of this long contact he had he said you know could you do something about my hearing I'm not hearing a lot and the next so he went to bed the next morning he woke up totally normal hearing completely healed so this ET we call the healer because he has appeared at various things. When my right-hand assistant in in 97 was dying of metastatic cancer, uh, like I was, he went in and put her into a state of, uh, where he she had no pain ever. So, and and he materialized in her apartment in near Denver in Littleton, Colorado. So, we've had the most beautiful things happen with ETSs. You know, it's so opposite to what people portray them as.

>> Yeah. And what's interesting a synchronicity that when we got on I was telling you that I'm I'm currently filming in Colombia in Bogotaa and there's a city called Buga Aki uh here in Colombia. Um what happened there? I actually was was outside in my terrace and I see these two I saw two little balls. That sounds PG-13, but I saw them floating in the air. I took a video. I'm going to send it to you after this. Okay.

>> Um, but that was in Bogotaa and then I saw that something had happened what you're covering in in Buga. What what did what happened there?

>> Yeah.

>> Well, this is going to be part of a new film we're releasing we hope this fall. So, we're working on Ultimate Disclosure and we're crowdfunding it. We need people's help uh to fund this because uh but we've went down I took a member of Congress in June down to Mexico City where Haime Moson had brought back this Boougga sphere. It's a spherical almost certain it's an ET object that landed outside Bugga Colombia. Um and Boouga is just a little town. Um and uh we ended up going there and examining it scientifically and we took samples that are pending to be scientifically evaluated. But what's interesting about it when it landed it weighed about 2 kilos. It now weighs 10.1 kilos. Now this when I learned this and it was documented what I what I now the scientists in Mexico City didn't understand what I was about to tell you guys and that is after it hit this high voltage power line it and it got zapped. There's a little place where it got melted on the southern hemisphere of the sphere and it's about this big. Weighs 22 pounds 10 kilos. Um, and it sort of floated to the ground and this man went over and found it, picked it up, and it was uh cold to the touch, which is typical of your anti-gravity and zero point energy. Instead of putting out heat and fumes, they're actually colder than the atmosphere. And but over a course of a month or so it gained in its weight up to the what it eventually stabilized at around 10 kilogram. So that is a more than four or fivefold increase in weight. Right? How does that happen? Ah well this is called the the electronics of this we understand it. So what really happens with uh gravitational waves is that you're having an effect on the mass of an object, say something normally weighs 22 pounds when it's activated. The reason it can levitate and move in such extraordinary ways is that it actually alters the mass of the atoms to where it in our one gravitational field of the earth begins to approach zero. Now when it approaches full zero it vanishes out of this dimension but it can be like 01 in this dimension and be moving around. So it's virtually weightless and it has its own ability to maneuver and whatnot. So, we also found that there were around the equator of the bugosphere, if you go on my you'll see this in some of my other videos, there was a polymer where there were these hairike fiber optics that were embedded. And we're analyzing that polymer to see if we can do a carbon 14 dating on it. So, uh you'll see some inscriptions on the outside. It looks like hieroglyphic writing. I think those were put on after it was made. uh perhaps not even by the people who created it. We think the bugosphere can be very old and some reason they're being activated all over because there's an area in South America where you know the magnetic field of the earth is sort of collapsing and changing and I think this has triggered some ancient ET objects to know that we're reaching a very dangerous point in the stability of the Earth and they're out investigating and monitoring and then relaying back out to into space. That's my theory.

>> And the symbols on these on the bugosphere is looks very ancient. We'll put a picture on screen.

>> Yeah, they're I you know they're they're very similar to some of the hieroglyphics. And interestingly, the day before we went to Mexico City, we had just interviewed a Green Beret U member who had been in an underground base in Crane, Indiana, where they had it was called the Offworld Technology Office, believe it or not. It was a naval weapons station, but underneath it was this secret uh base. And he saw a technology that looked like a tablet. And then as he approached it, it started putting up in the air these hieroglyphic s symbol-like uh objects. And some of them looked very very similar to what are etched onto the bugosphere. Um, because when he described them, I said, "Well," so I pulled up a picture. We hadn't gone down yet, but pulled up a picture and say, "Yeah, it was this." He found like four or five of them that were very similar if not identical to what were being projected into the air like a almost like a hologram uh from this ET communication device that was in this off this underground skiff underground secret facility. So there's a lot of work to be done on it, but um what we want to do is do some metallurgical testing to see if any of the metal is uh from there's a specific type of testing you can do to see if the metal originate on Earth or from outer space. And then we want to do the carbon 14 on this polymer to see how old it is. And then we also want to to do some work on the um the the other aspects of it that I think it's going to require some some more uh research with a fiber optic uh hair. You can get a hairike fiber optic scope in there like we use in medicine and hooked with a camera and a big screen. So I recommended to Haimey Mousan and the scientists there in Mexico City that they do that. I don't know what the progress of that is, but uh there are 31 I think of these little teeny 4 millimeter holes around the equator of the sphere, but I two of them from the CAT scans look like they communicate all the way in. Now, you'd have to remove that polymer, and doing so would also alter perhaps some of those little fiber optics, but you could then go in there and see the interior of it because there are some very interesting interior features on the CAT scan, but you know, you really need to do we don't want to damage it and crack it open. First of all, it's incredibly hard. I mean, the material, it's an aluminum something alloy that's harder than any aerospace material we have today. Um, and it was definitely levitating and flying around and a couple of them had come in and then dematerialized in blue sky and just vanished. So, we know they're extraordinary and most likely they are ET and Origin. Um, so that's going to be one of the things that will be revealed in this new film as well as a whole group of new top secret whistleblowers. Um, so that we hope to come out this fall, but we need people to crowdfund it for us. you know, we don't we don't take in investors or do any uh capital like that capital formation. It's all by crowdfunding donations. So,

>> and we'll put the link to that for people that really feel called to this mission, want to see that documentary.

>> And you said you you mentioned something around the magnetic field of the earth.

>> What what is going on there?

>> Good question. I think um the earth periodically goes through a uh cycle where it uh the magnetic field changes and the uh you know uh the way that the crust of the earth sits on the molten iron core you know which is uh iron that you that's where we get back spinning and that iron core is what keeps creates our magneettosphere and it alters But it can also be a a a prognostic indicator, a predictor of perhaps some serious earth changes happening. Um, and uh now how much of this is due to things we're doing, humans are doing uh and how much it is a is a natural cycle, I don't know. But it seems to be it's very curious that all these ancient spheres are being released or being activated. I call it activator because I think they've been around a long time. I don't from looking at this it it was not a newly manufactured object. And that's the other thing about it. You know how we build something? It's like all these little, you know, pieces and little things. No, this thing is a singular object that has like the metal of the sphere has woven in it all these fiber optics and it's almost made as like a 3D printer and materialized and this is typical of ET tech versus a man-made fake one. Right? So I'm when I examined it because I was able to hold it and examine it and get magnifying stuff and we had some scientists there taking the metal samples and these other samples. Uh it seems to me is something quite extraordinary. Um, now unfortunately I think the movie will be finished before all these scientific tests get done simply because they take forever to get put into the these labs and get lined up. Um, and we're moving very quickly. we want this film to come out uh this fall only because it it's resets the narrative you know uh the subtitle of it is with what's going on in the world right now disclosure or deception. So part of what we want to do with this movie is to show the true disclosure and the truth and then the deceptive narrative that's also going on at the same time so that people begin to have be a little suspicious of what the mainstream media reports because remember the media is owned by the same black rock CIA operatives that control uh the internet. You know we just lost our Tik Tok account. We've been totally

>> because there is run by fascists.

>> Tik Tok's run by fascists.

>> You guys should all write to Tik Tok and complain. This is outrageous. So when I was in Mexico City the night we night before we were going to leave, there were some armed officers who tried to steal the bugosphere out of the vault. So I broke into I made a like a one minute video telling the public that this was going on to kind of blow the whistle on it. and that we were standing up and Haimey Mason was standing up extra security and that we were going to investigate who these people were and see if if there's videotape of them and find out who they are and we have identified one of them who is a basically a federal uh police Mexican federal police cartel member and part of a narco terrorist squad in Mexico and we know who he is. We've identified him. our special forces people have identified. But I because I did that it, you know, that little clip got 2 million views almost instantly and they deplatformed us. Tik Tok took us down um claiming that we violated their community standards, which we didn't. We were just doing a news break on something actually happening with an attempt to steal this very likely extraterrestrial device. And so our entire account we without notice we were neutralized and this has happened before you know where we've been demonetized on platform and everything else but I think people should be outraged by this. It's just happened and uh the last month or so and I think that this shows that this cabal it controls all media including the internet and so long as you're reporting rubbish that's not important they'll leave you alone. But if you're actually telling the truth, you're going to get deplatformed. You're going to get harassed. You're going to get shadowbanned. Um, and anyone who think, look, I have friends in Silicon Valley. He says they, and what he said was, we all talk like hippies, but we act like Nazis.

>> 100%. The tech industry is completely fascist. All big corporations and media, when you get too close to the truth on this, they're going to ban you. they're going to absolutely censor you. And if you think there's any media left, right, or center that won, you're mistaken. That is a myth, right? So, unfortunately, you know, we have to, you know, deal with this all the time. But I think everyone listening, even if you don't understand what we're discussing today, should be outraged at this level of censorship by Tik Tok.

>> Yeah. A few weeks ago, we had on uh David Ike, and I'm sure he can resonate with you on many fronts with the with the censorship. Um, one thing that I wanted to just bring up with you real quick is I was in uh Egypt last year in on the Giza Plateau. We did a private tour visit uh around midnight and when we were leaving around 1 or 2 in the morning um I looked up and there was a craft that was V-shaped black with a bunch of lights on the bottom hovering making absolutely zero sound and then it was just it just stayed there for a moment and then it just hovered by it went across the other side of the pyramid. I didn't see it again. Uh, and I thought I had a genuine like um contact experience, but I'm thinking that there might be something else there. Maybe something man-made. They were surveilling the Great Pyramid for some type of reason. Maybe something related to what we did in there that night. I don't know. But what what are your what are your thoughts on that?

>> It could be either. Um, now the ones that are ET, there can be ones that shape that are ET for sure, and they're are completely silent. the man-made ones, but you'd have to be close to them. Would have a humming sound like a transformer or or you know like a sort of a buzzing humming like a trans deep. Uh those are the man-made ones and they can be the same shape. So, one of the things that the aerospace giants have done is study the ones that are ET and what they look like in shape and make copycats so they can do a false flag, you know, and sort of deceive people. But it's very hard to know without being close enough. So I would it can be either. Now we do have a member of our team a few years ago. They were in the uh the king's chamber in the great pyramid and they went in there and were doing chanting. They with a private group.

>> That's what we did. And there was interestingly she she was doing C5 while they were chanting and this emerald green sphere appeared inside that chamber and floated around and came around. Very cool but not quite a solid 3D object. It was like a plasma light like that was moving around. And uh we actually have that chanting when that of C5 happened in the great pyramid in our app in the uh C5 contact app.

>> So yeah, I've never been there. U my security people aren't wild about me going to places where there are a lot of terrorists, but um so I haven't been, but someday maybe. It's a very beautiful place and and it feels so so ancient that it almost has me thinking do you believe or do you feel that humanity in times of past has already been in contact with these extraterrestrial races? We've been a one one universe, one people before. Um, what have you learned about that?

>> I don't think we were we were one universe, one people. I think we were there were different cultures at different times that had very open contact but it wasn't at the level where the entire globe like we are now interconnected is making contact this is a new level and but yes for sure I think all through the Americas um if actually you know the Celtic with the Stonehenge the pyramids in South America uh and North America native people talk about the star people and their contact. Um, I think globally we've never been alone and there has been contact for millennia. I also know that there have been civilizations on the earth uh that are as high-tech or more than we are now that have vanished in the past and that I know a CIA uh scientist who actually works for a corporation that's funded by the CIA and occasionally they will bring to him a an artifact, a very ancient artifact that's found on the in the earth or at the bottom of the ocean or someplace and his job is to find out who what it is and what it might have done and how it worked. He said some of them are ancient extraterrestrial objects, but some are ancient earthbased objects that from a civilization that we've lost all track of. You know, maybe there was anti-dolivian or before all those earth changes happened that you know, you hear about in the Bible and stuff, which I think did happen by the way. Um, and so, uh, not necessarily just as it is in those mythologies, but there was some massive earth event, you know, because there's evidence that the Sphinx, which is much older than the pyramids, there's a water mark on where the water went all way up on it. I don't know if you know that.

>> Yeah.

>> So, yeah. So you know I I think there have been some extraordinary civilizations uh for which we have very little record but I think there is evidence for it but it's been suppressed because as one it's like those uh objects on Mars uh that we discovered that were you know there are obelisks and pyramids on Mars and millions of years old though not thousands and uh I had a jet propulsion lab JPL NASA guy tell me once. The reason we will never acknowledge that is that it would collapse the orthodox and fundamentalist religious uh beliefs all over the world of the creation myth. And I said, "Well, that's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard of. You're supposed to be a NASA scientist." I said, "Why do you have to go along with a fairy tale?" And he said, "No, you don't understand the power of those organizations." So he flat out admitted to me, yes, we have that evidence, but but big but the powers that be want to keep the public ignorant about our ancient lineages on Earth, but also our ancient connection to these other civilizations out there. So in space. So yes, I think this goes back way before anything we would call recorded human history. For sure.

>> And and Dr. Dr. Gri, I wanted to ask you, what's a question that you wish more people would ask you?

>> It a little No. Um I I actually I I wish people more people would ask me what we opened with. It's like all this comes out and now what?

>> Now what?

>> Now what?

>> All right. Um, you know, it gets confirmed officially. To me, disclosure's already happened since something like 60% of the population believe we're not alone and the UFOs are real. That's a fact. I mean, there's in the recent polls, you know, more than any president has gotten in an election. But I think that when it is officially acknowledged and it begins to be covered in the media as a big announcement, now what? You know, and I think there has to be a a very wise some a lot of people who are very wise and speak to this correctly and speak to it in a way that doesn't result in global panic and war because the narrative to give you an example what a big task this is about 30 years ago um I was in North Carolina as a emergency doctor and my youngest daughter was in first And the teacher wanted me to give a presentation on UFOs, believe it or not. So I said, "Okay." So I did it and, you know, did it for six-year-olds. And the very first question, this is in North Carolina, Asheville. Uh, and the very first question from a child was, "Well, Dr. Greer, aren't you afraid to go out because won't they abduct you and torture you?" Talking about the aliens. That was 31 years ago. Now think about the extent to which people have been brainwashed by the CIA scops regarding alien abductions and mutilations and horror films and all the garbage that constitutes ufology. Now think about that for a moment and think about how dangerous that is. And the same thing with no offense but David Ike. the reptilians controlling this cabal. Totally a false narrative and total Um, 100% 1,000%. These reptilians are man-made and or from another dimension. They're not extraterrestrial. And he, you know, he doesn't even understand the fila, the categories yet. So, just forget that. Um, those of you who've been brainwashed with that poisonous nonsense. Um, because that is how you end up in World War II. There are the good aliens. There are the bad aliens. Let's have cowboys and Indians in space, right? And then that the inescapable conclusion there is that you go to World War II. You justify World War II because there are bad aliens. So that is exactly what the narrative is. It's total nonsense. Um, and so here this poor child, I don't know what she had seen or read or it's just in the culture, right? But we're not talking recently. This is 31 years ago and a six-year-old. So that's when I realized, boy, do we have a big problem because subliminally subliminally everyone has gotten indoctrinated with this uh man world, this false narrative of us versus them and black and white and you know this sort of binary uh good and evil alien stuff. And what they don't understand is that they're conflating man-made and interdimensional beings that are not extraterrestrial. And you know, there have always been like stories of like troublesome little boos from another dimension, ghosts and goblins. Uh, and then then you throw in that covert CIE programs have technologies that can simulate an ET and simul

>> no physical 3D

>> physical

>> manufactured biologicals that have or biological have integrated circuits in their cerebral cortex. I'm not kidding. And so, you know, unfortunately, I deal with the people who manufacture these fake aliens and who manufacture the fake UFOs that are man-made craft. And that whole narrative is something that has been pushed through society to the point that when this all comes out, the prevailing dominant paradigm is a false one that will lead to interplanetary war, which is the goal of the cabal. So um this is a real problem because if you posit that there are some of these civilizations like that this would cause everyone who are militarist to say okay it's like the movie Independence Day. You ever see the movie Independence Day with Will Smith? Let's go kick alien butt. Very one of the biggest movies ever on this subject. And the whole narrative was written by CIA scripton where the ETs were unveiled and the whole world was united as one in a final battle interplanetary war. That is the false narrative. And if we go on that path, we're going to lose five or six billion people. I'll tell you right now. So we need to be very careful. We cannot be reckless with this kind of information. So that's what no one is asking or thinking about. What are the consequences of this being officially disclosed within the mu within the environment of this mythology and hatred and demonization of ETSs and aliens that has been running for 70 years. The decision was made in 1970 195354 to create this narrative that is a false one and the outcome of it leads only to Armageddon. So you know if that's what you want have David Ike on your show again if but but I'm just telling you right now I'm not going to mince words. This is very dangerous game being played. Uh I think you know forgive them they know not what they do or say right they don't people don't realize the danger of this demonization that they're engaging in because to the extent that people actually believe it a false mythology this is the stuff holy wars are made out of right

>> so for example Tucker Carlson who's a very close friend of President Trump's has looked into this subject and had people who are fundamentalist Christians tell him that all the aliens are agents of Satan and are demons from other dimensions. So that's what he's going around saying. Totally false. 100% false. But if you believe that the way David Ike and others do, that kind of narrative, where you end up is when it all gets disclosed and the the body politic and governments of the world come around this, the result is going to be catastrophic, worse than anything you can imagine. So that people have to be grow up. Grow the up. I'm sorry to talk like that, but it's time for people to snap out of this nonsense. Um, because this is going to break. And when it does break, if it breaks in the wrong way, we're in a world of hurt, my friend.

>> Catastrophic.

>> What do you think a six-year-old would ask you today, 30 years later?

>> Oh, I think it'd be similar. You know I unfortunately because the predominant look the all the internet all of ufology all the media all the movies are scale scary alien invasion movies right there only a couple exceptions Paul ET the extraterrestrial Close Encounters of the third kind from the 70s Steven Spielberg you know maybe three or four and there are hundreds of the other and people absorb that into their consciousness and it becomes part of their belief system that's been done by design. I know people who have tried to do a true-to-life movie about what we've been doing and every studio in Hollywood ends up being shut down on that project there. They say no, you can't do it because the big money people and the big media conglomerate say absolutely not. So the only projects that make it through for the people to see are the false narrative ones that are terrifying.

>> Yep. That's true. But I know a lot of the top Hollywood moguls and people, they can't get it made. Even if they want to, they can't. Those cabal of money people and media people say, "Nope, not going to do that one." That's true. In your speech in Miami, you you opened up saying that a lot of people say the the phrase, "Many are called, but few are chosen." But you said that many are called, but few choose to answer the call.

>> That's it.

>> What do you believe that call really is that we're really um talking about here as a whole to begin to wrap up the conversation? What is that call?

>> Well, I think it's something everyone has in their heart. um they have to be in touch with their mind and their pure heart to discern all this noise from the truth number one and then they have to find out what what is their calling in other words what is their uh highest purpose on earth and what can they do about it so the example I use is there are many people let's say there's a terrible disaster somewhere most people run the other Some people choose at their own risk to go headlong into it to save other people's lives. Right? So you have the the self-interested cowardice and you have the purehearted people who will rise and people will call them heroes. I said no they're ordinary people who chose to do the right thing right even at their own peril. So what I've said is that many are called but few choose to answer the call and we have free will and we can choose to be uh sacrificial and and altruistic and giving or we can choose a path of just selfishness and narcissism and self-interest which leads the world to what to where we are. So I think that I don't think that there's anything special about me at all. I think the difference is that I grew up in such abject poverty and abuse and neglect and on the streets starving to death literally in the North Carolina. Grew up in a shack with no heat or air conditioning. We had a kerosene heater in the hallway and I had my own apartment in high school. Washed pots and pans at a Red Lobster. Everybody thinks I came from some entitled background. I said, "No, my father was half Native American um in the South when that was not okay, right?" And then I had a black girlfriend in high school. Almost got killed for having a black girlfriend. Run over by a car on my bike. You know, I'm barely jumped off. Anyway, but so, you know, I was one of these renegades. Even when I was in middle school, I was a hell on wheels. You know, I was a rebel. Uh, but I was always that way but I didn't grow up with any particular privilege or anything uh on the opposite actually but I decided I would take a path but I use my own free will. So and by the way I mean just to make this real for everyone I wake up every morning going do am I going to do this one more day

Know. Yeah, it's what keeps you going. The vision. The vision I shared where we have made it through this madness and it's an amazing civilization here. It's an interstellar civilization. It's an enlightened civilization. The Earth is healed. There's no pollution. There's no poverty after about 20 years. Uh, I see that. I see it's we we already have the means to do it. That's what's exciting. Uh, and so that's a message of great hope, actually. So I tell people, let's let's go with the vision of great hope and do that. But you're not going to do that by demonizing different races or species of ETs and then sliding into interplanetary war. That's not the path to peace, my friend.

So, I would recommend some discernment for those of you who do podcasts. Yeah. And Dr. Greer, we end every show with a segment called uh, the final trio, which are some uh, rapid-fire questions that we ask at the end. But before that, where would you send people to connect with you, with your work, the mission, the vision, everything that you're putting out there? Where would you send people to do that?

Well, we have a website, it's drstephengrer.com, but we have all our social media channels. We have YouTube podcasts we do. Um, and you can get our newsletter and information for free. Just sign up. I think you also would want to go to dpiarchive.com. That's the Disclosure Project, Intelligence Archive, where there's all this evidence, you know, hundreds of whistleblower testimony, government documents, photographs, everything. Um, information on free energy, zero point energy, uh, etc. Um, so I think you want to go and and see those. I think people also, we have uh, documentaries that you can see for free on Amazon Prime and Tubi and others, like "The Lost Century" that was the last one that came out.

Amazing. Amazing. Yeah. That pulls the curtain back on all this free energy. So I think people, you know, need to look at those. Uh, you know, we're an all-volunteer. I have like one and a half staff people. So we just do things as volunteers. So, one thing people can do is examine all that and then share it in their social media links with all their friends and and uh, network. Yeah.

And you've been working with Kardashians, uh, celebrities. So, they're they're also helping get the message out.

They do. They do. Yeah. I like Demi Lovato's very sweet and helpful. And Chris Brown and Khloe Kardashian and various folks. Yeah.

Yeah. Beautiful. So this segment uh, all the questions are personalized to to the guest, to you.

Uh, the first one is, what does the day in the life of a human living in the golden age look like?

Well, first of all, the work day, the work week will probably go to 10 to 15 hours a week. Uh, secondly, there'll be complete abundance uh, where there will be no poverty or shortage of anything because you will have technologies that can create whatever material you need. And I think what'll happen is that people, instead of just pursuing materialistic purposes, will very rapidly, not right away, but as a society and as a people, begin to turn to the pursuit of creative endeavors and, more importantly, the development of higher states of consciousness, the development of these spiritual capabilities and the ancient powers and abilities that are described in the Vedas, the Sanskrit secret Vedas with the the cities they're called. We'll be teaching these in Arizona next month. I'm going to go through the whole thing of how how you remote view and manifest those cities, you know, and it'll be a great weekend for people who want to come. Um, so I think the the average day will be um, so different from now because you're not going to have to have, you know, you know, if a family, you have both parents working 40, 50 hours a week uh, as sort of slaves to this macroeconomic system we have. When these new sciences and technologies get out, assuming they're used for peaceful purposes, because that's the golden age, is that we're using it for peaceful, not violent purposes. Um, it will be just an amazing world and you'll be able to go from Bogota where you are now to Paris in, you know, three or four or five minutes um, on these craft and and it just, the interestingly, every community will be self-sufficient for energy and and what they need, but will also be instantaneously connected to everyone on the planet, not only in terms of like the internet, but traveling. So, it'll be a very different world. I I mean, I could do a whole movie about that, the new world. Um, that the ET, you know, when the ETs met with Colonel Corso said and and Colonel Corso said when the ET asked for his help, said, "What's in it for me?" This colonel, this brash Air Force colonel in 1956. And the ET said, "A new world if you can take it."

If you can take it. So, you know, I was one year old then. I was born in 1955. Why don't we go ahead and do it, man? You know, it's like, enough already.

Are we getting closer?

Yeah. Well, in fits and starts. We need to pick up the pace very quickly here, I think.

If you could offer humanity one practice to accelerate our awakening of consciousness, what would it be?

Meditation. Any meditation where you experience the singularity of consciousness in its quiet form doesn't matter. I mean, I know I had a friend who was a doctor, and she got into that state by playing the harp and closing her eyes and being with the tones of the harp tones. Uh, I use a mantra meditation and and I do sort of a Zen breathing technique that I teach people. Um, I'm not attached to the technique. I'm attached to the to what the result is. And the result should be anything that enables you to center into a state of calmness where the mind is just pure and in its pure state of samadhi, basically, where you're just aware of awareness. And when you experience that, then you can begin to utilize that capability to see remote places, remote times, do remote influencing, be guided spiritually. So that, I think it's very important for people to do that every day. And um, you know, when I died when I was 17 at a near-death experience, was deathly ill. And um, after that, I and I had this amazing experience of cosmic consciousness. And after that, I vowed I'd learn how to get to that place without dying and being so sick. And I did. And I began to learn meditation. And before I was a doctor, some people don't know that I was a meditation teacher back in the day, back in '73, '74, '75, '76, back in 50 years ago. But, you know, it was it was great. I had a great time doing it. And so, I still teach that. So, I I still teach this meditative techniques. And I think people really need to do that. Um, but do it regularly and do it, you know, through a couple times a day. Do it before you go to sleep where you ask the Great Spirit to open your awareness to have lucid dreams and guidance in the dream state, like the Aboriginals in Australia have dream time, the Native American, my Cherokee, my grandmother's people had that dream time. So I think that everyone can do that and you can have huge leaps in in spiritual development that way.

And and the dream that you mentioned that showed you that event in in that future?

Yeah.

Um, and finally,

That'll be soon. We hope.

Yes. Yes. If you could leave behind one spiritual teaching that transcends time, what would it be?

The science of consciousness. The understanding of the mind and the conscious spirit as being infinite and unbounded. That is universally known. Is across all spiritual religious traditions in one form or another. Um, I think that what a lot of people forget is that you don't have to go anywhere to find it. It's the nature of your own consciousness at this moment because I'm awake. You're awake. If you begin to think what the the consciousness itself, not our ego, not our intellect, not our personality, that's all different. But the actual field of consciousness is one. And that is a universal teaching, ancient, and it's the foundation for a universal and peaceful civilization in the future.

And finally, I just wanted to honor you, Dr. Greer, for answering the call and guiding us as a light to to answer the call as well. You're a huge, huge, huge inspiration for me and I know a lot of us listening and I just wanted to from the heart uh, appreciate you for that. Thank you.

Well, thank you for your and thanks for your helping helping us get the word out. I really appreciate it.

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