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I'll tell you what the story was. The story in the Bible, the story of Jesus in the New Testament, can be boiled down to. And believe me, it's going to take about 4 hours for me to lay out all of the proof of what I'm saying. I've got to prove every word I'm saying. But let me give you the bottom line, and then don't hang up on me, just listen. Because immediately, most people go, "Oh, that's a bunch of bull. I don't want to hear this." Well, then you will miss something.
The bottom line on Christianity, the teachings of Christ, of the teaching of the, and the whole story about Jesus and the New Testament, is actually very simple. It was so simple, no one saw it because it's right there in front of you. The bottom line story in the New Testament, story of Jesus, is this: a war between light and darkness. Simple. That's it. Night and day. That's exactly right. Day and night. That's right. The war between light and darkness.
There are 12 hours of light in which man is happy because he can rule the world, and he can grow plants, and he can be in charge of the earth, and he can build buildings, and he can do wonderful things because it's warm out, and the, the, the weather is nice, and it's very warm, and he's in charge. He can see everything, 'cause his eyes are fixed to, to see things in the light. So he's learning great things, doing great things, having a ball being human in the light.
But when it gets dark, it gets cold, and freezing cold at night. Boogeyman comes out, uh, all these demons and devils and all these evil things come out at night. The boogeyman's going to get you. We were scared of the dark as children. So there's always been a war. The ancient, ancient peoples, thousands and thousands of years before the Roman Empire ever existed, thousands of years before even the Grecian Empire existed, the ancient peoples of the world realized there's a war going on in heaven between light and darkness.
So you have 12 hours of light. Thank God we got light. We got warmth. We got the sunlight, and everything is wonderful because we're in control. Humans are in control. But at night is when the predator animals come out. That's when the lions come out to eat. That's when the animals come out, all the, the predator animals around the world, the dogs, the animals, they roam. And the animals on the Serengeti plains of Africa, the animals come out at night, and they're coming out to eat.
So therefore, during the daytime, when it's nice and warm out and sunlight, you might want to start building a house and building a fire because at 6:30 the sun's going down, and the animals are coming out to eat. So if you want to protect your wife and your children, you better build something around you tonight 'cause the lions are coming out tonight. The animals are coming out. So you better prepare yourself for the Prince of Darkness. And so therefore, there's a war on the earth between light and darkness, between wonderful light of life and the horrible darkness of the Prince of Darkness. And so there's a war, war going on between light and darkness. That's the basis for the New Testament story of Jesus.
Now, Jesus in the story represents a metaphor in this understanding. Jesus is not an actual man who actually lived, but Jesus is a metaphor, a symbolic player in the story. Therefore, Jesus represents. He said, the Bible has Jesus saying, "I am the truth and the light, and nobody comes to God unless he comes through me. I am the truth and the light, and no man comes to the Father unless he comes to me." So therefore, Jesus has now established himself symbolically as representing, in the story, the truth and the light. Therefore, his opposer, the one who is the evil one, is called the Prince of Darkness.
Therefore, the devil is always appre, is always appropriately the Prince of Darkness. Why? Because evil things happen in the dark. Murder happens at night. People get drunk. There were killings. There, all kinds of horrible things happen at night in the cover of darkness. So that now, when you get into all the occult stuff going on with child sacrifice, all those are works of darkness because people who are enlightened don't do those kind of things. So therefore, the works of darkness are evil, obviously they're evil.
Well, take a d, the letter D, and put it in front of the word evil, that becomes devil. And take an O out of the word good, and it becomes God. God is good, and devil is evil. We're talking words here, concepts. The devil is the Prince of Darkness, while Jesus is the truth and the light. Therefore, the whole story of Christianity, and I'm going to go through about four hours of it, but the basic story is that the truth and the light, Jesus, is doing battle with his evil brother. Evil with a D in front of it becomes devil. And so the devil is the Prince of Darkness, and Jesus is the, the truth and the light. Therefore, the whole story of Christianity is what happens to the truth and the light in this world. What happens to the truth and the light in this world that we live in?
Well, first of all, it's laughed at. It's spit on. It's nailed to a cross. It's, uh, is arrested. It's trampled on. Spit on. Nobody wants anything to do with him, and he's an outcast, and he's hated. That's what exactly true. The truth and the light is spit on, laughed at, mocked. Nobody wants to hear the truth. You know, like, like, like the movie star, you know, what was his name? He said, um, uh, the, the officer in the military, when the kid, "You can't handle the truth." Yeah, that's it. So he asked, he asked Tom Cruise, the older guy, asked Tom Cruise, "Yeah, what do you want from me, son?" And he said, "I want the truth." He said, "You can't handle the truth. You ain't man enough to handle the truth. You want to have the real truth? I'll tell you the real truth." And so that's why, let's see how big a man you are. You want to hear the real truth? I'll tell you what the real truth is.
The whole idea is that there's a war between the truth and the light. Jesus said, "I am the truth and the light," and his great enemy was his evil brother. Evil with a D, devil. So therefore, the devil was the Prince of Darkness, and he's doing battle with the Prince of Light, the truth and the light. So the bottom line on Christianity is what happens to the truth and the light in this world. So whatever Jesus said, said in the Bible, that's what the truth and the light would say. But whatever happened to Jesus, well, that's what happens to the truth and the light. Whatever, wherever the, uh, wherever Jesus went, well, that's where the truth and the light went. Well, what happened to the truth and the light when it got there? Well, that's what happened to the truth and the light when you see what happened to Jesus.
And so when you begin to see there's a correlation between the truth and the light doing battle with the devil, or evil. Now, the truth and the light is referred to as God's son. Well, that's what Jesus is called God's son. Why? Because the son, s-u-n, is the light of the world. And of course, Jesus is referred to as the light of the world. He said, "I am, Jesus, I am the light of the world." And so we call him God's son, s-o-n. God's son. Since nobody owns the sun, China doesn't own it, Africa doesn't own it, and we think we own the whole goddamn universe of America, but we don't even own the sun. So since we don't own the sun, and nobody else on the earth owns the sun, then who owns the sun that comes up every morning? Who owns it? Well, logic alone would tell you it must be God, because ain't nobody on the earth owns it. So it must be God. I don't know. So it's God's son. Well, that's what we call Jesus, God's son. And we said that Jesus is the light of the world. Of course, the sun is the light of the world. What else lights the world if it's not the sun?
So God's son is our Risen Savior. Of course, the sun, s-u-n, is your Risen Savior every morning. About 5:30, he rises, and it is your risen savior because if the thing don't come up, we're dead in 3 weeks, right? What is this earth going to be like with no sun? We know in winter when the sun goes south, we're freezing. Wait till there is no sun. There is no heat in our solar system, period. The sun's gone. We're going to freeze over, big time, real quick. So therefore, you better hope that that sun comes up every morning at 5:30, 'cause he is the hope of the world. He is the light of the world.
Now, not only does the sun represent warmth, and represents life and light, so you can actually see instead of rumbling around in the dark for the rest of your life, you know, you can actually see things you're doing. Now, you can begin to see where this story is going to go. All the things which happened to Jesus is the war between light and darkness. And a classic example of what I'm talking about, uh, is there's a story in the Bible in the New Testament where Pontius Pilate brings out two prisoners. In, in, in Jerusalem, he brings out, he's the governor of Jerusalem, he's the governor of Judea, and he represents Rome, and he's the governor. And in the Bible, it says that Pontius Pilate brought out before the city, he called a meeting, and all the city was there, and he brought out two prisoners. He had on the left-hand side, he had Barabbas. Barabbas was known to be a murderer, a liar, and a career criminal, not a, nothing of any redeemable value in this criminal. And on the right, he had Jesus, the light of the world.
So here is a guy who's dedicated his life to the dark side, who was an evil criminal, while on the other, on the other side, you have the truth and the light, Jesus. And so the scripture says that Pontius Pilate said to the crowd in the city, "According to the custom of your people, your, your custom in Rome, uh, once a year, I can release one prisoner to the city. I can let one prisoner go. That's our custom. So today, I will release one prisoner according to our custom. Which one do you want? Barabbas or Jesus? You tell me. It's your custom. You tell me who to release." And the Bible says, the Bible says, "With one voice, everyone, with one voice, said, 'Give us Barabbas.' Nobody in town wanted Jesus. Nobody. 'Give us Barabbas.'"
That's a spiritual metaphor. That's an encoded message which is saying, here's the end, here's the encoded message in that is that when the government or po, the authorities representing government or representing power, God, I don't care what you call, whatever the power is, and when the power of this world presents to the people, you have one of two choices. You have the criminal, or you have the prince of light. You have the truth and the light, or you have a criminal. Which one do you want? Everyone agreed they wanted Barabbas. "We want the criminal. We don't want to hear the truth and the light. We're not interested in hearing truth and the light." Why? Because we are demon-democracy. Democracy means we want somebody like us. We're all a bunch of alcoholics, rapists, lawbreakers, fanatics, goofballs, airheads, criminals, stupid, ill-informed, dimwits, self-centered, egotistical. So we love Barabbas. He's like us. We can deal with him. But Jesus represented the truth and the life. We're not interested in no truth and light, period. Give us Barabbas, not the truth and the light.
So as I've said to you before, that is true. I have learned that over 50 years of speaking to people around the world, that the one thing that people, generally speaking, do not want. Because people will always support what they want. They will not support what they don't want. The one thing people will not support ever is the truth and the light. People, generally speaking, are not interested to look at the real truth. You don't want to look at your wife for who she really is. You don't want to look at your children who are on drugs because they are telling you this is what kind of a parent you were. Your kids in prison, your kids on drugs, your kid flipped a car and killed somebody, and it all goes back to you. What kind of a parent you were. So you don't want to hear the truth. You don't want to hear that the people in your company don't like you. You don't want to hear the truth about you. You want to hear that you want to hear what Prince of Darkness. So go to the baseball game and the, and the football games, and all your silly alcohol in your parties, and bring your beer and your, and your pretzels, and because now everybody's like you. You know, we are democracy. Everybody's like you. You, you, you're, you're, you're ignorant, ill-informed, unread, dimwitted, religious, just goofball, bigoted, racist. Well, so with everybody else. So you fit in just fine. Everybody loves you. Unless, of course, you were into the truth and the light, and in that case, nobody wants to hear you. They're not inviting you to any parties. They don't want to hear anything about you. They don't want to hear this truth in the light. It's a symbolic story. The people always love lies. They are never going to accept the truth and the light.
So with one voice, voice, it says the whole town said to Pontius Pilate, "Give us Barabbas. We know we can handle him. He's a criminal. The, uh, he's one of us. Jesus, he represents the truth and the light. We don't want to hear it. No, thank you." Why? It's because if you were sound asleep and you were very tired, and you've been sound asleep, and someone slipped into your bedroom at, at 3:00 in the morning and flipped on a 600-watt bulb next to your bed, your immediate normal human reaction would be to jump quickly and hide your eyes. Why? Well, because it, first of all, scared the hell out of you. 600-watt bulb, boom! All of a sudden, it woke you up and scared you, but it also hurt your eyes, and you turn away from it and gu, and cover your eyes because it hurts your eyes. That's a normal, natural reaction. Y. When you're confronted with the true in the light.
So therefore, anyone who is extremely bright, that's a word we use in relation to light, and someone really bright, intellectually, spiritually, very bright, and they're trying to enlighten you, and you've been in the dark all your life, you don't know what's going on, you've never read nothing, you don't know nothing, you don't understand nothing, you got nothing. And someone comes into your life who is intellectually or spiritually enlightened, and they're like a 600-watt bulb going off in your face. You've never heard any of this. So the first thing you do when you hear someone who's in the truth and the light are giving you the truth and the light, you turn your head and gu, and cover your eyes because this guy's brilliant, and I've been in the dark all my life, and I don't understand what he's talking about. All I know is the bull, the BS I've been told all my life, and I got a religion, I love the Lord Jesus, and I've drunk a lot. Hallelujah. Yeah. And Hallelujah. And pastor, pastor the boo, and all that stuff. And now I find out that there is no Jesus, and the whole thing was a metaphor, and I'm a fool, and my government's gone, and, uh, and my government's gone, and all of that. And so once you understand all of that, it's, it just means you're a fool. You've been deceived. You're in the dark. It's the works of darkness, and you're in the dark, and you cannot deal with the light and the truth.
So when Jesus says of himself, "I am," it's, it's a metaphor. It's a symbolic story. Jesus said, "I am the truth and the light. No man comes to the Father unless he comes through me." Obviously, if you want to actually communicate with the divine principle in heaven called God, I don't know if you're smart enough to do that, or if you're brave enough to do that. But if you actually want to communicate with God, it would be better if you just stay in your little silly ass religion 'cause everybody loves you, and you love everybody, everybody feels good about it, everything. Amen. But if you really want to contact the spirit in the universe, then don't even come to that great divine presence, the great spirit in the universe, with your silly ass religion. Because if there is a God out there, obviously, if you understand how big the universe really is, and if there is a divine presence in the universe that has created all things, and in your mind, you're calling it God, well, if there is a God, don't try and communicate with that God with your silly ass religion, with your beer drinking, silly ass routine that you're dancing around the stage and singing hymns and falling all over yourself and blessing everybody with, with incense and sprinkling water on people and giving all that silly. And then, of course, you're making millions of dollars a year doing it. Don't think you're going to go to the divine presence in the universe that we call God with your silly ass religion, and it ain't going to fly. You're going to talk to God? You better go clean. Because if there is a God out there, and that God is in the position of power that you say he is, then your silly ass routine ain't going to fly 'cause he already knows what you are. So if you want to go to God, you better come back. You better go back and do some homework. If you want to talk to God, the best way you can do it in your silly ass religion is just go to your church, and you'll feel much better going to your church and talk to God and dance around the stage and sing hymns and light candles and do all that good stuff, and you feel great. But you're not even getting close to the divine one. So don't even try it. Because if you're going, if you're going to go, actually, in fact, before the divine presence in the universe that men have called God, then you are not going to go there with your silly religion.
"Nobody goes to the Father unless he comes through me." The truth and the light. So you better look at yourself in the real light and see what the real truth is before you go talking to God. So nobody comes to God unless he goes to the truth and the light. So if you're going to go to God with your silly ass religion, stay home, and it ain't going to fly. You mean I can't murder someone and just say sorry? Yeah, you could, sure. If you're in California, you can. No, but I'm saying, you can't go to God with your silly religion, with your Jewish religion, you're not going to God. You have no idea. All God is is dog spelled backwards, okay? That's why you have church dogma. So if you're going to go to God, you need to get all that religious stuff out of your head, all that silly church stuff out of your head, all of that man-made, silly ass, money corrupt corporation, big-time money, dancing on the stage and wearing, you wearing your religious clothes and lighting candles and singing hymns. All of that is to make you feel good in a church, which is nothing more than a social organization. If you want to talk to the divine presence in the universe that men have called God, yeah, you have, first of all, better take a couple of courses in astronomy and find out how big this universe really is. And find out how big the universe really is. And if there is somebody out there that's over this universe like God, then you got to figure he's going to be a lot smarter than you, and he knows your bip from a long time ago. So don't go to God with your silly religion, and it ain't going to fly. That's like you coming to me to, to look for a, I'm, I'm the governor. You're coming to me for a job, and I'm so impressed you're coming to me. What are you kidding? I'm not impressed with you. Hell, I got you. I got your, I got your paperwork right here. You've been in jail three times. You've had six wives. You owe the government money. You've been convicted of four different felonies, and you're coming to me for looking for a job? What's, what's wrong with you? You want to be ashamed of yourself. You think I'm stupid enough I'm going to hire you? Same thing with you going to God. Don't, I'm going to go to God, and I want to talk to the Lord God, and I want, are you kidding? With your background, are you going to go to God? First of all, you can't even read. Your silly ass religion is one of the silliest religions on the face of the earth, and you're going to go talk to God? Come on.
So no man comes to the Father unless he comes to me, the truth and the light. Yeah. God's son, the light of the world. The sun represents light, and the darkness represents evil. That's why Jesus is the Prince of Peace, because it gets very peaceful when the sun comes out. Yeah. It could be a storm at night, electrical storm, but when the sun comes out, but all of a sudden, it starts, the sun dissipates the storm, and it gets peaceful. So he's the Prince of Peace.
And then we have the story in the Bible with Jesus in a boat on, on the, on the sea. And the scripture says in the New Testament story about Jesus, he's in a boat, and it's not the Queen Mary, you know, not 700, uh, uh, rooms of dining and elevators, no, just a little boat, fishing boat. And it says in the Bible that that a storm came up, and that these, that the guys, the sailors in the boat, who were seasoned sailors, they've been through everything on this, on this, but the storm was so bad, it says even the seasoned sailors were frightened that they, they, they were going to die. That's how bad the storm was. It's a bad storm. Must be a bad one 'cause the guys who've been out there all their life, this time they're really scared. So that was really scared because it's a bad storm. And therefore, they said they had to go and wake Jesus up to tell him how bad the storm was. Logic alone would tell you there's a, this is a metaphor. It's a symbolic story. What are you talking about a storm so bad? We're not talking about on the Queen Mary, we're talking about a little fishing boat, and the damn storm is so bad that the sailors themselves think they're going to die. That's how bad the storm is. And Jesus is sleepy. He didn't know anything about it. Sound asleep. How the hell are you going to be sound asleep when a storm is so bad the sailors are committing suicide? It's so bad, and Jesus is asleep. He didn't know anything about it. They had to wake him up. Son of God.
And then it says, "But when he woke up, and he rose, uh, he told the storm to quiet, and the storm quieted down." And they said, "My goodness, God's son caused the earth, caused the storm to, to stop." Well, of course, if there's a horrible storm on the sea at night, that's when the big storms happen. It's at night because of the inversion of the heat and the, and the cold air at night. The, the air is rising from, from the heat of the day, and it hits the cold air, and that's when tornadoes and, and, and, uh, and hurricanes and terrible storms at sea. But when the sun comes out, the sun dissipates the, the, the storm, warms the, the atmosphere, and the storm subsides. So when God's son, who is the light of the world, of course, the sun is the light of the world, our Risen Savior, of course, it's your Risen Savior, and when there's a horrible storm on the sea, yeah, when, when he rises, the, the, the storm subsides, calms down. So they, "Oh my God, God's son was able to quiet the storm." Of course, the sun quiets the, the storm on the sea. Talking as astronomy, the sun heats up the, the, the atmosphere, and the storm dies down. Makes sense.
So there's about 40 to 50 different stories in the Bible I'm going to go through, but each one basically will tell you Jesus represents the son, s-u-n. Because English people will tell me all the time, because they hear this and they say, "Well, that, but that's using English. That's just in English. It works. The s-n and s-o." I said, "No, no, no. English is a German language. It's called Germanic language. Look it up in an encyclopedia. English, English is referred to in the encyclopedia as low German. It's a German language. It's a dramatic language. English, low German." And therefore, in German, high German, that thing that comes up in the morning, you know, it brings light into the world, son, it's called the sun. But how is it spelled in German? S-o-n. In German, that thing that comes up every morning and brings light into the world is spelled S-O-N, son. And therefore, we in low English changed it, and we says S-U-N. And therefore, your boy who is your offspring is your son, why? Because he is the light of your life. Your, your whole life is in your son. And so when they people see your son, whatever anyone does to your son, they've done it to you. The idea is, whatever you do to my son, you've done it to me. If you treat my son with respect and honor, then you have treated me with respect and honor. You mess with my son, you've messed with me. He's my son, and what you did to him, you did it to me. He can't pay you back, but I can. So that's why Jesus is referred to as God's son, the light of the world.
So the idea is, and we can, we can probably end it now with this last and final comment, that Jesus represents the sun, the s-u-n, the light of the world, our Risen Savior. Of course, the sun is your Risen Savior. If it doesn't rise in the morning, we're dead in about 3 weeks. Therefore, the sun represents in the ancient prehistoric world, the sun represented the truth and the light. Because at nighttime, if you see someone doing something, you can't swear by it 'cause it was dark at night, and you can't swear. But if it was a broad daylight, now you know the truth 'cause you saw it in broad daylight. So therefore, the, the Prince of Darkness is evil. Put a D in the word evil, becomes devil. Prince of Darkness. While God's son is the light of the world, he is the truth and the light. All makes sense.
Well, whoever did write the, uh, Bible is quite clever. Very clever. The Ten Commandments. If you're living by the Ten Commandments strictly, well, it's very clever. You're a good man. Yeah. But remember, in the Ten Commandments, the first commandment was, "I am the Lord your God. Thou shalt not have strange gods before me." That's a whole subject right there in itself. That's a two-hour subject right there. Well, right there, I don't like it. Yeah. Because, because, because the Ten Commandments, first of all, there were two sets of the Ten Commandments. There was the first set of Ten Commandments, which Moses came down from the mountain, and saw the, the Hebrew people, his people, dancing around the golden calf. Now, that's a whole subject. And he got so upset with the Hebrew people, the Bible says he threw down and broke the law. So that's where we get in our, in our terminology, "someone has broke the law." Why? Because that's what Moses did. He threw down the tablets of the law, and they broke. So he broke the law. So he was the first lawbreaker. Then God gave him a second Ten Commandments, which were different. Yeah. Yeah. So he would have had to go back up there and do it again. And God gave him a different Ten Commandments this time. I wonder what the first ones were. Yeah. I'll bet very interesting. The first Ten Commandments, you will never know, because the scripture says it, he broke the law. He threw down the Ten Commandments and broke them. And so the second Ten Commandments is in the Bible. That's the second set. And I think it's interesting that the first, uh, commandment is, "Thou shalt, I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not have strange gods before me." It doesn't say God was not saying to, to Moses, "I am the only God in the whole universe." No. Read it. What it says. And this comes from a very high-ranking rabbi I talked to back in 1960, over 50 years ago. The rabbi sat for hours, and I used to sit and talk, and he was a very high-ranking rabbi in America. And I talked to him for 1960, and he said, "It's read it. What it says. Don't read into it. Read it. It says the first commandment is, 'I am the Lord your God. I'm not the only God. I, the Lord your God, and I will not have strange gods before me.'" He didn't say he was the only God in the whole universe. No. Obviously, he's not the whole God of the whole universe. He said, "I am the Lord your God." Same to Israel, same to the Jews. "I am your God." And so therefore, we know, and that, "I will not have strange gods before me," which is the same thing when you're getting married, or you got it, you're going to study with a girl, you say, "I am your stud. I'm not the only guy in the world. No, but I'm the one in your life. Let's get that straight. There's lots of other guys out there better than me, but I'm the one in your." So I don't want to have any other guys, you know, coming around creeping around. Uh-huh. So let's just get it straight who the boss is here. I'm not the only God, but I'm the only one in your life. Period. So therefore, God saying to the, the Israelites, "I am the Lord your God, and I will not have any other strange gods before me." Now, you can mess around with the gods later on behind me, but they better not have any before me. So you can have a lot of men friends if you want, but when it comes to personal stuff, just me. I don't care if you have boyfriends at work, and you have other people, other guys, you know, yeah, but I am the Lord your God, and I will not have any other strange gods before me.
So therefore, we find out that the Hebrews, the Jewish people, were not monotheistic people. It's called monotheistic. We're told that the Jews were the first monotheistic people, which is ludicrous on the face of it. The Hebrews and the Jewish people were not monotheistic. They were never monotheistic, and they're not monotheistic today, period. They're not monotheistic. They are heno, the word is h-e-n-o, go look it up in a dictionary. H-e-n-o, henotheistic. Theistic means of God. Mono means one. So we're told that the Hebrews were the worshippers of one God. They were monotheistic. No, they weren't. They were henotheistic. Rabbi, the rabbi told me many years ago, the Hebrews were never a monotheistic. They're not monotheistic today, and they ain't never going to be monotheistic. Ain't never been monotheistic. Mono means a worship of G, God. Well, there, God said, "I am the Lord your God, and I will not allow any other gods before me." He didn't say there was no other gods. Just don't have any other gods in front of me. I'm the first one. So you can have all the other men in your life that you work with, and you, you know, you, you friends with, that's fine, long as you remember there's only one guy in your life you're talking to, right? So, "I am the Lord your God, and you, and I shall not have strange gods before me." So don't bring any gods in this house before me. So therefore, he didn't say there were no other gods. No, I just, there is no other gods for you. You made a contract with me. So therefore, you understand that the, the Hebrew people were henotheistic, not monotheistic. They were not the worshippers of one God.
So to explain this, let's say that there was 16 different gods, and, and all 16 were equal, and you are asked to pick one. Pick one. One of those gods to, you'll be his follower, and he'll be your God. You make a deal with him, or a covenant, a contract, or a covenant, like an Ark of the Covenant. It's a contract. So therefore, you pick that one God that you like, in the blue suit, that's the one you pick. That's the one. Okay. So now he is the Lord your God, right? Okay. But there's 15 others. So what about the other 15? Well, your God says to you, "I am the Lord your God, but I will not have these other gods before me. I mean, I don't care that they're here, but not in your life." So pick one. Yeah. So pick one and go with it. Pick one and go with it. Better make the right choice first time out. Well, that's, that's the part, you know, it's not your fault if you make the wrong choice. Well, choice. Look, that's why I've always said, knowledge is power. That's why the American people don't have any power to do anything. They have no knowledge. That's why religious people have no, no prerogatives in their life at all. They don't have any choice to say anything. Why? Because you don't know nothing. Knowledge is power. Without knowledge, you have no power.
So therefore, Christians are praying to God continually every day. And the more they pray to protect their homeland, to protect their lives, to protect their family, uh, the more they pray to protect the church, whatever you're praying for, whatever it is, the Christians are praying for, and it ain't working. Because by their fruits, you shall know them. What is the fruitage of the Christians? All millions of them, or one billion of them all over the earth, praying to God. What is the fruitage of Christianity? Praying to God? Well, what is the fruitage of the Jews praying to their God that they picked? Well, I don't know. What is the fruitage of the Islam people praying to their God? What is the fruitage? Want an answer? What would you say the fruitage of all three of the people of the book, all the gods that they're worshiping and praying to? Am I being graded on this? No. I'm going to let you go. Let you slide. Ignorance. Yeah. Ignorance. So I, I pass. War, violence, drugs, gang wars, drive-by shootings, alcohol, drug wars, cartel cartels, international conflicts, rape, plunder, pornography. The whole world is falling apart with corruption, evil, murder, violence, women and children being raped and murdered, young, young kids, you know, teenagers killing 30 and 40 people at a time. Hey, they were born and raised in a country with Christians and Jews. There's your, there is a classic example. By their fruits, you shall know them. What is the fruitage of America if it isn't drive-by shootings, alcoholism, drug addiction, murder, violence, war, pornography, Bugs Bunny, Big Top, pee, hull media, uh, you know, war, fighting, cage fighting, martial arts, war jets, flipping cars, drugs. The whole entire civilization and the Western World. What is the fruitage of your God? Are we being judged as a civilization? Oh, I hope not. Because if there is a divine presence in the universe that we call God, if there is, um, you're not going to be able to fool that one with your BS. You can fool other people. You can fool some of the people some of the time, and you can fool all the people some of the time, but you can't fool God ever, period. That stands to reason. Yeah.
So therefore, you can think about yourself as being holy and righteous and a wonderful America, America, land of the free and home of the brave, and how wonderful and holy you are, and how wonderful our country is. You're not wonderful. You're not wonderful at all. Your homeland is filled with hypocrisy, uh, corruption, violence. Your government is a communist, Nazi, fascist dictatorship. Your banks are corrupt. Your educational, educational institutions are corrupt. Your military is corrupt. Your money is worthless. Your children are criminals. The entire so, uh, civilization and the Western Civilization is crumbling and falling apart like the Roman Empire. Why? Because you're worshiping the wrong God. They look like humans, but they're not fully human. They merely look like us. And I am of the opinion that the reason why that is is because they made us in their image and likeness. There are a few scientists who are real scientists, and people who are actually doing something phenomenal in the scientific world, and, and in relation to UFOs and aliens and those kind of subjects that Lloyd and I and so many other people are interested in. Uh, science will say, "Well, why don't you give us something we can actually look at? We can actually test." Well, Lloyd has a skull, and all you got to do is, if you're a scientist, is look at it. And so I learned a long time ago that most scientists are not willing to look at anything they didn't find. If their university didn't, uh, uh, finance the dig, and they found it for the university or for themselves, they're not interested. If somebody else found it. So that's why most of science is not interested to talk about something really important because it's outside of their expertise. They don't know anything about it, and they're not going to make money off of it. So therefore, it doesn't exist.
Well, I got to tell you, Lloyd Pi has done some incredible research on not only this, uh, star child skull that he can talk about a little bit, but especially on the origins of the human race and how we are put together and where we came from. Because I've been talking a long time about the fact that, um, God in the Bible. Lloyd, I'll tell you something. Many years ago, I was talking to a very high-ranking rabbi in the United States, and I, we were talking about this subject about mankind and where we came from. And he said to me, he said, "Nowhere in the Bible does it specifically say God created man." It doesn't say that. He said, "Go back and read the thing correctly. It says God," which is incidentally, uh, not one God, but Elohim, more than one God. That's why it says, "Come, let us." In the Bible, God says, "Come, let us." Who is us? And so he said, "You got to look at that. Who is God, uh, when he's talking to us?" And he says, "Come, let us make man in our image, after our likeness." Jews and Christians will then say, "Well, there it is. See, God is creating man." He said, "No, go back and read the sentence. Break it down correctly. What is being said here is that Gods, more than one Elohim, are saying, 'Come, let us make man in our image, after our likeness.'" He's not making man. He's remaking man. "Come, let us make man in our image, out to our likeness." And so that started me thinking. This was back in the '60s. And so I've always been interested in where did we actually come from? Because remember, God is simply the word dog spelled backwards, if you want to. And if you want to talk about God, you better look at the universe and see how big it really is before you go telling me about God. However, there is something to this idea that we have been genetically modified or, or mutated, so to speak. The human race is being run at the very top by some of these entities who actually, in fact, were part of the creators of who we are. If you go back to the Bible, in the Book of Genesis, Genesis 1 and 2 and 3, uh, all the way up to like Genesis 19, from Genesis the 1st chapter to the 19th chapter is just filled with stuff talking about the extraterrestrial who came here.
I remember talking with a very famous, a very well-known, famous rabbi in America many, many years ago, back in the '60s, mid-'60s, and he was saying that, um, the, the, he told me, "No place in the Bible, the especially in the Old Testament, uh, no place does it say God created man." And there's no scripture that says that. So the church teaches that God created us. But no, that's not what the scripture says, and there's no place that that says God created us at all. And then I, of course, asked him, "What, what doesn't say it?" Christianity will show you in the, in Genesis 1, the first chapter, that it was the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit created everybody. Yeah, right. Yeah. And then I tell, "No, no, that's Jewish. That's Old Testament. There ain't no Father, Son, Holy Spirit in the Jewish world." So you better go back and do your homework on what that word means. And so, um, the scripture says, and the Christians will tell you, "God created man." Why? Where does it say that? And so I said that to the rabbi, and, and I said, "Because in Genesis 1:1-28, God said, 'Come, let us make man in our image, after our likeness.'" And then Christians will say, "See, there it is right there. God said, 'Come, let us make man.'" The rabbi said, "No, no, you're reading it wrong. Go back and read the, the, the sentence correctly. What is being said is, God said, 'Come, let us.' Who's us? Who's us? If God says, 'Come, let us,' what are you talking about us?" No, God said, "Come, let us make man in our image, after our likeness." He's already here, but let's make him look like us. Let's make him be like us. So let's cross, uh, uh, our DNA with this creature we call the, the, the Neanderthal creature of the ancient, ancient hominid that we all know existed because we see the, you know, we see their, their skeletal remains, so we know there was an ancient, ancient creature that looked like us a little bit and walked on two feet, but they weren't us. Well, that's what the Bible says. God says, "Come, let us." Whoever that is. "Let us speak man in our image, after our." 'Cause he's already here, but let's change him and make him look like us. And so he did. He, he created man. And then later on, a couple, couple chapters later, God said to whoever is us, whoever the US is, God said, "Now look what you have done. Look what we have done. We have created man in our image and our likeness, and now he is able to do all kinds of things. Now he's able to do mathematics and science, and there's nothing he can't do. There's nothing he can't do." So now he's become like us, knowing good and evil. Now he's become like us, knowing what, what's really going on. So see what you've done? You've, you've taken this creature, this hominid creature, this Neanderthal man and woman, and you have bred into them our DNA, and little by little, by little, it starts changing that creature until one day we come into the world with lasers and beautiful music and, and rockets and all kinds of incredible knowledge and technology. Where did we get it? We got it from the gods. The gods are in the Bible is called the Elohim. The gods who came here and said, "Let us make man like us, after after our like." So I'm saying today, we humans look like the God who created us. That's exactly what the Bible is saying. Most people have no idea in the world what those words really mean in the Bible because they don't do their homework. You find out, like you said, Genesis 18 and 19, when the US came down and ate and sat with Abraham and his wife, and then the other two angels went to Sodom and Gomorrah to judge the city. Uh, these were the beings that created us. Well, and the people in Sodom and Gomorrah said that they were good-looking men. Men, not angels, not demons, no. Good-looking, handsome men. And, and when, and when God comes into, in the story at 18, Genesis 18, uh, Abraham and Sarah are in their tent, and three men come walking up, and Abraham goes out and crawls on his, falls down, and says, "What is my Lord say to his servant?" And, and he said, "And the Lord said, 'Take your shoes off. The very ground you're on is holy.'" Why? Because I'm here. But take your shoes off, and remember.
Who you were in front of. And then, uh, Abraham asked him to say for dinner. He's going to fix some dinner, and they said, no, they don't have time. They don't have time. And so then he, he insists that they stay for, for a quick sandwich or something. And so the, it said, then God said, "Okay, well, make it quick." And so Sarah fixes dinner for them very quickly.
And the scripture says in Genesis 18 that Abraham and Sarah sat under the tree with the three men, and they all had dinner together. And then two men got up and said, "After dinner, well, we have to go. We have to go." But the, but the one who was a spokesman for the three, his name was in all capital letters, L-O-R-D, uh, was in all capital letters, which means in Hebrew, we'll tell you that that was the God, the God, the main Creator. And he had with him two, uh, uh, angels or two associates. Yeah, those two. Well, those two associates went on into Sodom and Gomorrah.
And the men of the town said that they saw these two men, and they were very handsome, good-looking men. What does that tell you? If the God comes walking into the camp, and all three of them are men, and they sit down and have dinner with you, and then the, the people in the other city they went to said they were good-looking, handsome men. It's telling you that whoever created us, we look like them. Now, we didn't look like them now, in the beginning. But they came here and said, "Come, let us make man in our image, after our likeness."
So, when, what am I saying? It's appearing that in the Bible, the heavens are filled with other life forms, and they look like us. And if that's true, then maybe they are so smart, we didn't find them, they found us. We can't go there because we're not smart enough. But they can come here. And for us to say, "Oh, well, too far. They, they would never find us. It's too far out." No, no. It's too far for you, 'cause you'll have a brain of the head. It's not too far for someone who drives a Maserati and who is a damn genius, intellectually superior to you, and as a human, and it's been around. His, his life form has been around for 5 million years. He knows more about the universe than you're ever going to hope to know. And he knows how to find you. He knows how to find life in the universe. You don't, but he does.
And then, if he wants to, he can come here. You can't go there. You can't even fly, you know, from one place to another without trouble. He can come here from other worlds that are far, far away, and hundreds of light-years away. Why? Because he knows where you are. He knows how to find you. Yeah. And he looks like you. And that's the scary part. That's, that's what the scripture tells us in, uh, Hebrews, that, uh, that, you know, to, to be courteous to strangers, because some of you have entertained angels unaware, didn't even know it. Yeah. That's what the Apostle Paul said. The Apostle Paul said, "Be always be hospitable to all men, for some have entertained angels unaware." Meaning, always be careful when you're talking to someone and talking to another man, because the gods who created us created us to look like them. And therefore, they could still be here on the Earth, and they look like men. Yeah.
Well, you made a mistake. The guy you were talking to yesterday was not a regular man. You have no idea who he is and where he's come from. And so that's why there are certain people today that are extraordinarily gifted and can do things we can't do. Why? Because they're not from here. They're not like you. You just happen to look like them in your body form, and you look like them. They look like you, but they're not the same. You are not like them where they've come from. They are, they present themselves to you, and you see them as God. Or you better see them as God, because they're far superior to you.
Just like the people did in the, in the ancient Orient, when, when the Second World War, when America would fly in all their big jets and all their big planes with supplies and food and everything in the islands, uh, and, and Malaysia, and those islands, the US was setting up their forts. And the people had never seen Americans. They never seen an airplane or a jet, those big bombers. They've never seen that. And so they assume that these strange creatures that kind of look like us a little bit, but, uh, but they come in on great spaceships and come here with food. "No, it's just the American." Yeah. The technology is so far above their heads that they think we're gods.
"Let them think what they want. So we feed them little cookies and, and bread, and give them some, yeah, we give them some, uh, trinkets and some rings and jewelry." And they just think we're, "Oh, we're wonderful gods who have come here from another world." Well, yeah, it's another world. We live in LA. It's not like Bora. Our God that created us looks exactly like us. And, uh, so it says that in the Genesis. It says that God walked and talked with Adam in the cool of the evening. Well, the word "walked and talked with" is a word in Hebrew which means that you hear footsteps on leaves and branches. Yeah. So when you can hear something, footsteps on leaves and branches, you know somebody's there, and somebody's behind you. You may not be able to see them, but if you're hearing branches break and leaves smashing, you know somebody's in the woods and they're watching you and they're following you. Well, that's what the scripture says that God walked and talked with Adam in the cool of the evening. Well, why? Because Adam could hear somebody's walking with us.
And when you understand Jesus, the story of Jesus in the New Testament in the Bible, the story of Jesus, the reason why you have so much, uh, misunderstanding and so many contradictory stories, every church has a different story, every church has a different, completely, totally. Nobody does. No two Christians on the Earth agree on anything. A reason why is because nobody knows what they're talking about. It's very simple once you understand where the story came from. But that's a whole story in itself. Where did Christianity actually come from? Well, nothing grows out of a, out of a, a vacuum. You know, things develop, and then things develop from that, then things develop from that. Before you know it, things evolve, evolve. And today we got certain, you know, we got a, Maseratis. Yeah. But one time back in the 1900s, they had Model Ts. Today they got Maseratis. Yeah. But things, you know, things evolve. And, and, and, um, and so religion evolves. Everything evolves. And, and so, but all I'm saying is that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are actually based on a very ancient story. That's why the Bible is referred to as the greatest story ever told. It's a story. It's not a collection of historical facts. It's the greatest story ever told because it's an encoded, uh, metaphysical encoded story.
The Greeks, as I said, the Greek word for God is Theo, T-H-E-O. The, the, um, gives us our word theater, theocrat, theocracy, th. And so it was, it was, you know, in ancient Greek, it was called the God show. It was called a theater. So you go to the show. It's like any other theater. You go to a show, you sit down, you pay money, and, uh, they give you some crackers and a cup of tea or something, and you sit and watch a show, and then you leave the show. Well, of course, in Greece, you left a show with something spiritually that you were taught. You were taught by the ancient Greek, um, theocrats. You were taught by the ancient teachers of Greece, all these philosophical concepts and ideas about life and the gods and all that. Well, then you learn something from Greek philosophy. It's very interesting. So it's called the Greek, the, the God show.
Unlike today when you go to a church today, it's a God show, but you don't learn nothing. You go there for 40 years, and you still know what they're talking about, right? But all you know is, "By God, I love the Lord Jesus." And I was there. And in the church, that's all. And "I love the Lord. Praise the Lord," you say. Yeah. "Praise him. Praise the Lord," you said. But wait a minute. You've been going to that church for 40 years? Yeah. Every Sunday. Can you explain to me one thing that you have ever learned in 40 years? No. They don't know. You all they know is Jesus, this, and Jesus, that, and Lord Jesus. That's all they know. That's it. You said, "What kind of a school would this be if you go to a school for 40 years and come out and you don't know your butt from a hole in the ground?" A pretty bad school. Very bad. You need to go back and get your money back 'cause they didn't teach you anything.
So, when you understand that, um, religion, all of Western religion, Judaism, Christianity, uh, and Islam are based on astral theology. Astral theology goes back into Sumeria, the ancient Babylonians, Sumerians, Akkadians, the Egyptians, especially the, uh, the Hindus, Phoenician, Canaanites, Sumerians, as I said, all of those ancient cultures from the prehistoric and ancient world are already knew and understood all kinds of stuff that we are just trying to learn today. They knew stuff about our universe and about the stars and about the life in the universe that we don't even begin to understand today. We're trying to still study the Babylonian, uh, cuneiform writings and trying to figure out, "How did they build a pyramid? How did, how did they build all these great temples? And what did these temples mean? And where did these ideas and concepts for, uh, building temples and, and all these great, uh, pyramids and all this kind of stuff that's all over the world and all cultures?" Off the coast of Japan and the ocean are great temples, incredibly beautiful temples in the ocean off the coast of Okinawa and, and, uh, and, uh, and off the coast of Florida, as I've said, um, pyramids, huge pyramids sitting out in the ocean floor off the coast of Cuba. There were huge, uh, temples and all kinds of incredible, uh, places under the seas. What in the world is that all about?
Well, it tells you that the, basically, what it's saying is that there must have been a time a long time ago when civilizations existed on this Earth, and they were dry. And then something happened where now those lands sunk down, and a great earthquake or whatever, just collapsed into caverns. Because we know there are caverns on the Earth. And maybe because of the weight and because of, because of earthquake or something, uh, on, you know, liquefy the, in an earthquake, sometimes they liquefy ground, and a huge city could just collapse into a big cavern they didn't know was a mile down. But when it collapses, we have sinkholes today. We, a whole half a city just collapses and falls into a hole, sinkholes. Well, hell, maybe, maybe that's what happened to Atlantis. You know, the Bible, it doesn't say that Atlantis was inundated by water from a, from a flood. It doesn't say that at all. Uh, you know, when, when you read about what happened to the world, it says that that, uh, for 40 days and 40 nights. Well, it's been estimated by university studies that rain, and the most, most severe possible rain you could have, would not even begin to cover the Earth's surface for 40 days and 40 nights. If you had the terrible rain for 40 days and 40 nights, it probably would cause 6 or 8 feet of water on the Earth, or in Europe, or somewhere. But it's not going to cover Mount Everest, period. It, it caused a flash flood somewhere, maybe. Absolutely flash flood, horrible, terrible destruction. But, uh, covering Mount Everest and covering the whole Earth, the globe of the Earth? No, no, not going to happen. No.
So what was this whole story about the flood? Well, it goes back to, as I said, it goes back to ancient stories coming out of Babylonia, Phoenicia, Canaan. But, um, you know, if you ask, as I said, you ask a child, "Where is God?" A child will point up into heaven. 10 out of 10. Huh? 10 out of 10 kids will do that. Well, yeah. Y. Well, ask any, ask any adult, "Do you believe in God?" "Oh, yes." "Well, where is God?" "I don't know. He's, he's in heaven somewhere." Well, if you go out at night, if you go out at night on, on a beautiful night in a desert and look up, you see an incredible sky. What are you looking at? When you're on the desert and you're looking up at the incredible beautiful stars, what are you actually looking at? What are you looking into? What are you looking at? The universe. That's right. What is another word for that? What's another word for the universe when you're looking out there? What are you looking into? What's another word for it? The sky. The sky. Okay. What's another word? Outer space. Okay. And what's another word? Um, the heavens, I guess. Yeah. Would that be, would that be a term that you could use when you're looking into the heavens? That's what, yeah, I think so. Okay. So therefore, where's God? In the heavens. That's right. In the heavens. Outer space. That's, that's right. Somewhere in the universe. That's right. Therefore, if he's not, if, if he's from, if he's in the heavens, then that means God is in heaven. That's what the religion says. God's in heaven. I mean, he's not from Cincinnati, so he's got to be from, from somewhere. It's from out there.
I hate to tell you this, I don't know if you've ever thought about this very deeply, but if God is from out there, he's extraterrestrial. Means he's not from this Earth. Now, if he's born in Alabama, that's different. Now he's terrestrial. Terrestrial means of the Earth. Cleveland. Yeah. Cleveland. Yeah. But if he's not from, from the Earth, then he's extraterrestrial. Well, he could be. He could be from Earth, but in a different dimension. Well, see, now you're getting into all the philosophies. You know. So my point being is that God is not from the Earth. God is from out there. And out there, it means he's extraterrestrial, not from here. Um, that being the case, this whole subject of astral theology, I don't think it's, uh, I don't think we should go into the meat of the subject tonight because it's going to take a long, it's going to take quite a bit to discuss astral theology. So I want to lay the foundations for it tonight.
You need to understand that nothing happens on this Earth out of a vacuum. Nothing. Life comes from life. You need to realize that, uh, stories that we have heard, uh, today and are being taught today in schools and colleges and, and, uh, churches can be traced back to ancient stories that the ancient peoples heard. The same story. So there's nothing new under the sun. Nothing. Right? So if you want to talk about ETs and extraterrestrials and UFOs, well, hell, that goes all the way back to Egypt. The pharaohs actually wrote that they saw golden circles in the sky, and they flew around, and it frightened the pharaohs, and they didn't know anything about it. And the people in ancient Egypt and in Hindus said that they saw silver discs coming over the cities, uh, they, 5, 6,000 years ago. So if you want to talk about UFOs, nothing new there. I mean, we've been seeing them for 6,000 years. We don't know what they are. We still don't know. Mhm. You know, but it doesn't mean they're not there. It just means you don't know what they are. Right?
You need to appreciate that Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, all three, can be traced back to something called astral theology. And that's what I want to talk about. The, the beginnings of all world religions. Not all world spiritual movements. Not like, uh, for instance, Buddhism is not based on astral theology. That's a, that's a spiritual discipline. But I'm talking about, especially the people of the book. The three major religions, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, are referred to as the people of the book because all three religions require a book. Christians have the Bible. Jews have the Torah and the, and all the other books. And of course, Islam has, um, the, um, the holy book of Islam, the Quran.
So what I'm saying is this, let me, let me explain to you what I'm going to tell you. I heard one time when one of my teachers said, "When you're giving a lecture, you tell, you tell your audience what you're going to tell them, and then you tell them, and then you explain what it was you told them. And if they still don't get it, that's your problem. Then they're never going to get it. They're never going to get it, right?" But, uh, so what I'm going to try and explain to you is the, is the actual beginnings of where Christianity got its concepts. Now, we're not talking about the organizational arrangement called Christianity, the church history. I'm not talking about church history. That's a whole different subject. But I'm talking about the philosophical concepts and ideas that have given birth to what we call Christianity. Because Christianity, as a belief system, is based on far, far more ancient, ancient systems of philosophy and ancient ideas, which, as far as I'm concerned, is a basis for what might be called today a new world religion.
We hear a lot of, especially Christians, crying about this new world religion and the new age and all the devil worshiping and the Luciferian devil worshipper and all this stuff about the new age. Well, I'm telling you that there is in fact a new age religion, which is actually the oldest religion on the face of the Earth. And I personally believe that this new age religion that the Christians are talking about is the story in the Bible. The Bible is a new age document. And I mean, we could go into that for hours. I could show you all the scriptures on that showing that the Bible is a new age document. And that I am totally, this is Jordan Maxwell saying this, I am totally convinced beyond the shadow of a doubt that Christianity as we have it today is a, is a lost cause. It's a mockery. It's a joke. There's nothing very serious about Christianity anymore. It's a big joke. All you got to do is watch the TV, TBN, Trinity Broadcasting. If that doesn't give you a laugh, nothing going to. No, you're right. It's a, it's a, it's a sick joke of these, of these effeminate, goofy, mentally disordered goofballs jumping around, hollering, whooping and hollering and spitting all over each other and falling on the stage and, and, uh, going into convulsions on the stage and throwing jackets at each other. Yeah. It's a theater. It's a God show. Yep. There's nothing spiritual about it. These people are making hundreds of millions of dollars a month. It's a show. And of course, the scriptures said that there would come a day when the entire world would be in the power of the wicked one. You know, so the entire world is now completely lost. They have lost their, they have lost their spirituality. They've lost their connections with the divine. They've lost their money. They've lost their home. They've lost their government. And now they're just losing their minds. It's embarrassing. It's very, very embarrassing. Adults jumping around a stage, spitting and crying and jumping around, and they call that Christianity. And they're so righteous about it. And they're very righteous, holier-than-thou. And if you don't love the Lord Jesus, they're going to kill you. Are they really righteous about it, or are they just acting righteous? Well, are the guys in charge? They, they know what's up. Oh, of course they do. They're not stupid. Mhm. I've sat and talked with the guys. I've talked with the, you know, Jan and Paul Crouch. There's a, there's a, there's a real team, you know, like Bonnie and Clyde. Yeah. Bonnie and Clyde. Jan and Paul Crouch.
Well, I had a friend who passed away, so I can talk about it now. He passed away about four years ago, five years ago now. Was a dear, dear friend. And he, he had a PhD, a master's, uh, in the Dead Sea Scrolls. He was one of the few people who actually had a master's, did his master, uh, work on, I mean, did his doctoral work on the Dead Sea Scrolls. Wow. And so he was a master on it. So I would sit and talk with him. This guy's got a PhD in the, in the Dead Sea Scrolls. And he lived down in, uh, in Huntington Beach. No, there's Huntington Beach. No, Balboa. Balboa Island. And he was a, he went, he had gotten his, uh, PhD from Claremont School of Theology. Well, Claremont, see, happens to be one of the two universities in America who actually has a full photographic, uh, representation of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Israel gave two complete photographic, top-of-the-line, clean, crisp photographic reproductions of the entire Dead Sea Scroll file. They gave it to America for safekeeping in case something were to happen in, in Israel or a world war. They did not want the, the, the, the Dead Sea Scrolls to be obliterated, you know, lost forever. So they made two complete sets and gave two of them. I don't know how many more they made, but they made two sets for America, and they're both in California. One is at these, uh, at the, uh, university in Claremont. Claremont School of Theology has a complete set of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Well, Doctor, my, this doctor friend of mine got his PhD studying the Dead Sea Scrolls. And he did a, he did a doctoral thesis on the Dead Sea Scrolls. And, and, and his, his doctoral work was on astrology in the Dead Sea Scrolls. That was his doctoral thesis. Was astrology and the Dead Sea Scrolls. No one had ever written about that. They had a little bit. John Allegro had talked about a little bit, and some of the guys on the Dead Sea Scrolls Commission in Israel talked about it. But generally speaking, they never been a doctoral thesis done on the Dead Sea Scrolls and astrology. So he did it. And he did it so well, he got his PhD because his doctor, because of it. M. So the guy was extraordinarily bright and brilliant on the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Jewish religion, the ancient Hebrew, all of that. And I used to go down to visit him all the time. Uh, and, um, I wish I could remember the doctor who was in Long Beach who was also in the Dead Sea Scrolls commission. He was a, he was down there in, in Orange, in U, um, in Orange County. But he was also on the Dead Sea Scrolls commission. I'll think of his name. Um, but anyway, so my friend, who was a, who got his PhD on the Dead Sea Scrolls, we would sit for hours and listen to him. And he would explain the Hebrew religion, where it came from, who the Jews were, who wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls, and what was really in it that nobody knows. But then he told me, he says, "And so after I got my doctorate, I started my own church. I incorporated my own church." And it was, it was called The Church of the Americas, I think. I was asked, he was asked to travel all over the world to give lectures on the Dead Sea Scrolls, etcetera. And, uh, but after looking at Judaism and studying it and getting a PhD in it, uh, I became to, I came to the conclusion that the whole entire story of Judaic Christianity is full of bull. That's, that's what got in. Getting a PhD there. That's what, that's what it gets from doing a PhD and getting a doctorate in theology because you got to really do your stuff. You got to know what you're talking about, right? Yep. And in order to get your, to get a PhD in it. Well, because this guy was so good, he, he said, "After looking at Judaism and Christianity and a little bit of Islam, he said, but looking at Judaism and Christianity and getting a PhD in this Dead Sea Scrolls, I am totally convinced the whole thing is a crock. A bull. The whole thing." And he says, "So there were things in the Dead Sea Scrolls that will never be given to the people. Never. They will never be told what's really in the Dead Sea Scrolls that the church in Israel does not want anyone to know about, and they ain't never going to know." And so he told me, and I feel better about talking about this now that he's gone. Anyway, he says, "So when I left the church, I founded a church and had all kinds of accolades." I mean, I, when I go to his home, he had all these certificates from universities around the world that give him honorary doctorates and honorary doctorates there. And very, very smart guy. But he unfortunately became a confirmed alcoholic. And I don't think I ever saw him draw a sober breath. He was one of the most decent, kindest, funny, clever, resourceful, and highly intelligent guys you'll ever want to meet. Very interesting to talk to. I mean, my God, he could talk for hours on ancient different religions of the world, the ancient language of the world. The guy's got a doctorate in the subject. You know. And so especially you want to talk about the Dead Sea Scrolls. Yeah. Listen to this guy. And he would tell you stuff that's in the Dead Sea Scrolls nobody's ever heard. So he told me, he said, "I became so disillusioned with Christianity and Judaism that I decided I, I've had enough. I don't know if I'm an atheist or not, but I know what it is I am anymore. I'm through. I'm through with the whole thing because I know too much. I've studied it too much now, and I know too much. So I, I'm no longer a Christian. I'm no longer care about the Jewish religion. I don't care about any of it." So he says, "So with that kind of a background, PhDs, sought after all over the world to speak, you know what he ended up doing? Drinking." Absolutely. That's all. He was just says a lot, doesn't it? Yeah. He just said, he said, "As far as I'm concerned, as long as I have a bottle and, and I have a nice home to live in." He did. He came from a family with money, so he had a nice home by the ocean, and it was always a beautiful home. Had a little pier with his boat and everything. And he said, "That's it. I just want to stay drunk. I don't even want to see a sober day." And so he told me, as I said, "Oh, I have a job. Got to work every day like anybody else." I said, "Where do you work?" And he said, "I work at a liquor store discount." Right. So, and I thought that was funny. Here's a PhD and, and doctorate in, in, uh, Dead Sea Scrolls, sought after doctor on theology and religion, all these years of background experience, world traveler. And today, you know, he works as a, in a liquor store. That's it. And he said, "I, it's like going to heaven. I work at a liquor store. Got all the, all the liquor I want. Bring it home." He just goes to show you. Heaven is subjective. That's right. Yeah.
So he told me, he says, "Now, as he, so he was worked in a liquor store on, uh, not Carado, not on, um, Balboa Island. But that city that entrance to Balboa Island. What is it? Uh, Newport. Newport. Yeah. But he was a dear friend of mine. And we sat for days and hours and hours talked about theology and religion, etcetera. And he gave me stacks and stacks of documents that he had been studying. And he just gave it all to me. "Here it is. There's all the stuff on the Dead Sea Scrolls. Nobody's ever going to know it. But this was my PhD. These. Take it and have it." So I, and I've got like four or five hours of of interviews with him in private talking about the Dead Sea Scrolls and religion and Judaism and everything. But, uh, the point of all of this story is, is that when I ask him, "Where do you work?" He said, "Oh, I still work. I have to. I, I can't do any, I can't just waste my life away. I got to have a job. Do something." So I work at the liquor store. Just where I got all the free liquor I want, right? And he says, "And our best customer who comes in about every two to three weeks, our best customer that comes in, they buy cases of 100 proof vodka, 100 proof this, 100 proof that, the best of the best, top-of-the-line booze." But they order it by the cases, four and five cases of this, seven cases of that. As Paul and Jan Crouch. And he said, "Paul and Jan Crouch, they buy more liquor than I could ever conceive that anybody could use." He said, "They buy cases of of hard liquor." They're not drinking it. They give it away as presents. Right. To the congregation. Right. To the congregation. And he said, "Those people are profound alcoholics." He said, "I've seen him come in here looped and have to have somebody, uh, holding his, holding him up. And he comes in, he's looped to the gills, and he's ordering seven cases of this, eight cases of that." He said, "Those people drink like there's no tomorrow." But if you understand, they're making hundreds of millions of dollars a month. And there's nothing else to do but drink and build beautiful homes for yourself and buy yachts and build homes and buy properties around the world and drink, have a good time. It's a disgusting. And he said, "These people are to, to be absolutely disgusting because they don't mind you knowing that they are drunks. And they couldn't care less. They're paying. They're paying good money." And he said, "My company loves them. The, the liquor store loves them. These people spend a lot of money at the store." He said, "Me, I don't care. I'll just take the cases out to the truck and put it in their big vans, load up the truck." And he said, "Paul and Jan Crouch are alcoholics galore. You have no idea who these people really are and where the money's coming from and what they're really doing." And he said, "I've heard all the stories. I got all, I, I know personally. Their bodyguards. The bodyguards come over and get the booze. And I sit and talk with the bodyguards with Paul and Jan Crouch. And he said, "You have no idea in the world what's going on at TBN." But that's another story. Just understand TBN as a bunch of alcoholic money bankers, money grubbing, running the show, running a show that's called theater, the God show. They dance around the stage and make songs and have people coming in dancing and singing and and talking about the Lord Jesus. And for $29.95, no ups and no downs, millions, that much. People love it. That's not astral theology. No, no, no. That's, that's the modern-day Christianity.
But if you're really interested in the, in the spiritual foundations on which ancient Christianity was built, not this modern-day monstrosity of alcoholics and goofballs, but if you're really interested in the, uh, hidden occult or hidden foundations that you've never heard before, where Christianity developed its ideas from, that is an extraordinarily interesting story about the foundations, the philosophical basis for the stories in the New Testament about Jesus. So I have said this before, I'm stating it again. The New Testament story of Jesus is an encoded story. Codes. You know, you've heard a lot about Bible codes, National Geographics and, and the Discovery Channel and History Channel talk about the Bible codes. Well, it's true. There are codes in the Bible. As a matter of fact, in the original Hebrew Bible, I am told by the rabbis that there's at least seven different codes encoded in the old original, not the King James Bible, but in the old ancient Hebrew writings. There is at least seven different codes that the rabbis know about. You don't. They haven't told you, but they're encoded messages in the Old Testament and in the Torah and in some of the other old ancient writings, ancient Hebrew, which are encoded, and the rabbis are taught those codes. So when I hear people talking about Bible codes, I'm saying, "Yes, that's legitimately a legitimate subject. There are codes." The Hebrew, the, the rabbis will tell you there are, in fact, legitimate codes, and they can show you if you sit down with them. They'll show you. See how these words are lined up? Every other line is the same words. It's a code. It's encoded. Wow.
So you're reading it as if it's a history. It's not history. It's an encoded word. It's encoded, uh, ideas telling you something in secret. The word in, in Latin is occult, simply means hidden, hidden from view. So it's like someone who's, you know, it's like that movie, "A Beautiful Mind," where the guy was blessed with the ability to see codes. And that's why you have code breakers, people who know how to look at the symbols, watch the way things are configured, and see a code in it. It's called pattern recognition, encoding a message. Well, we have that in the military, breaking codes. Well, I'm saying that the story of Christianity, of Jesus in the New Testament, is an encoded story. So if you're reading it as history, you don't have it. That's, that's why if you're reading it as history, like all the churches do, you're going to have a totally different interpretation than the next church. And the next church is going to be totally different because everybody's looking at it as a history, and everybody's, uh, uh, ignorant, ill-informed, and unread about history. So everybody's got a different view on what Jesus did or why he did this, and why he did that. The Catholics say one thing. Jehovah's Witnesses say different. Then the Mormons will do something different. But the, but the Presbyterians will tell you something different. But the, but the Baptists will tell you, everybody's got a different story about Jesus. Everybody's got a different reason why he did this, and a different reason why he did that. And you can sit all day long and listen to all the different Christian religions, and all of them would tell you everybody else is crazy, and we got the truth. And everybody else in town, all the other Christian churches, don't know what they're doing, but we have the truth. Jehovah's Witness, I tell you, we got the whole truth, and everybody else is full of bull. Yeah. But that's what the Mormon said about you. The Mormon said that they had the whole truth. That's what every, they all say it. Yeah. But the Catholic Church said, "Both of you full of bull, and they got the truth." Exactly. Everybody. The Baptist said the Catholic Church is full of bull, and they got the truth. Right. Everybody's got the truth. Well, there's only one truth. So who's got it? Well, first of all, nobody's got it. I'll tell you who has the real truth. The ancient Sumerians, the ancient Babylonians, the ancient Phoenician Canaanites, the ancient peoples of the ancient world had the real truth. That's where the temples came from. All of these ancient artifacts and temples and ancient pyramids and all these incredible, uh, temples that we find in Egypt. There's what the real truth is. The real truth is you can't build anything like the ancients did because you don't know what they knew.
So once you study the ancient foundations of Christianity, and a lot that's in Judaism, but I'm only talking about Christianity right now, once you understand that the story of Christianity and the story of Jesus in the Bible is an encoded metaphor, it's an encoded story. And that's the bottom line. Now, once you understand that, it makes sense. Let me give you an example of what I'm talking about when I say encoded story. When I was growing up, there was a book kids used to read, one little kids called Aesop's Fables. And Aesop's Fables was a book that you would read to children, little kids, four, five, six years old. You would read to them a little book for children called Aesop's Fables. And in this book, it would give you little stories to read to children, but it taught children certain things about morals and ethics and scruples and everything. It would teach a child with a little story. And one of the stories was the, with the famous story is Aesop's Fable was the story of the tortoise, the, the race between the tortoise and the rabbit. A very famous old story from hundreds of years ago. So you teach the child and tell the little kid a story about the race between the tortoise, the, the turtle, and the rabbit. Well, obviously, the rabbit can run faster than the turtle. So the story was that the rabbit ran all the way up to the goal line, and then to be presumptuous and arrogant, he's already there. The race hadn't even started. He's already there. So he lays down under the tree to rest, while the tortoise, he hadn't even started yet. So he's already there, but he's not going to cross the goal line yet. Doesn't need to. He's got plenty of time. So he relaxes under the tree, and the old tortoise just plods along. And by the time he gets up to where the rabbit was, the rabbit's found asleep. He crosses the goal line. And so the tortoise, the, uh, the turtle won the race. Which means, just because you're fast doesn't mean you're going to win the race. Just because you're a, well, healthy and handsome and got all the money and everything going for you, that doesn't mean anything. You may be in a car accident tomorrow, an auto accident, and die, while some old man who's been working all his life and a little, little Mickey Mouse job has got a beautiful family, a beautiful wife and children and grandchildren and many, many friends, and has a beautiful home, and he lives to be 90 years old and enjoys life. And you died at 30. I mean, you thought you had everything. You didn't have nothing. You were killed in an auto accident, or you drank yourself, you, you overdosed in drugs. So the point being is that, um, you tell a child the story about the race between the rabbit and the tortoise to show them, just because you're fast does not mean you're going to win the race. Just because you're handsome and good-looking or or wealthy, it doesn't mean you you're better than anybody else. Don't presume. Don't presume anything. Because maybe the one person you thought was on nobody, he couldn't do anything, he might end up being president, and he might end up being a wealthy man, and you end up being broke. You don't know what tomorrow brings. So don't be presumptuous. Well, that's called Aesop's Fable. It was just one of them.
So I'm saying that Christianity, the original story of Christianity, was like Aesop's Fable. It's an encoded story. And once you get, once you understand what the players, what Jesus represented, what the apostles represented, what the different players in the Bible, the different stories, and what, what happened, once you understand all of these different characters and people in the Bible, and the Bible story of Jesus, they represented a symbol. They represented something. And so then you begin to see that the whole story of Jesus is an encoded story right in front of you, and you never saw it. Why? Because you were looking at the story of Jesus in the Bible as history. It's not history. It's a story. That's why the Bible is referred to, the Jesus story in the Bible of the New Testament, the New Testament is referred to in religion as "The Greatest Story Ever Told." And it is. It is the greatest story ever told. Why? Because it's the oldest story that's ever been told. It is the only story that's ever been told. Therefore, it's the greatest story ever told. It's a story. It's not all this collection of facts on the Earth. No. It's the greatest story ever told.
So then, if you really want to get something from Christianity, you need to understand it's a story. It's an encoded story. And what you have today of the, in the churches, is a blasphemous stupidity, absolutely ludicrous on the face of it, jumping around, taking people's money, ripping them off, uh, spitting on yourself, falling all over the stage, jumping around, ranting and raving about Jesus as and Jesus that, and you have no idea in the world. What you're doing is misleading the people of the world. And that's why there's a story in the Bible in the New Testament where someone comes to Jesus and they have a seed in their hand, and they have a seed, and they ask Jesus, "What kind of seed is this?" And Jesus says to them, "It's a metaphor. It's a symbolic story." And so they said to Jesus, "This is a seed we found. What kind of a seed is it?" And he said, "Why don't you plant the thing? Why don't you plant it in the earth, water it, and watch what grows? And if a, if an apple tree grows up, well, then I guess that's what it was, was an apple seed." A seed. But if a, if a pear tree grows up, I guess it was a pear seed. Does that make any sense to you? Instead of me guessing what kind of a seed it is, plant the thing and water it. Let's see what comes up. Because there's no better way to tell what kind of a seed it is when it grows. You'll find out what it is. If it's got oranges on it, I guess it was an orange seed. Does that make any sense? It makes sense. Okay.
So therefore, Jesus went on to say, the Bible says Jesus went on to say, "By their fruits you shall know them." Therefore, as you go through life, don't listen to what people tell you. Look at what they do. By their fruits, you shall know them. They will tell you, "Oh, I just love the Lord Jesus." And, "Oh, I'm this, and I'm holy." And, "Oh, I go to church." I don't want to hear all that stuff. What are you really doing? Who are you really? What are you really doing? All that drinking on the weekend and screwing around with with your neighbor's wife and messing around in government and cheating people and treating people like crap. I mean, really, who are you really? I know all that stuff you tell me about how holy you are and the church you go to and all that, but who are you really? Because by their fruits, you will know them. Okay.
If we go back to Genesis 1, the very first chapter in the Bible, Genesis 1. So many people today believe and have been told, and that's why they believe it, that God made us. "Go, God made man." And they will point to the scripture that says, "God created Adam and Eve." And then they will say, "See, there it is. God made man." But that's not what the Bible says. It doesn't say that God made man. In the beginning, the first chapter of Genesis says, "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth." But that's not exactly what it says in the Hebrew. This is why we are emphasizing that it says, "God created the heavens and the Earth." But in Hebrew, the word God is Elohim. So if we were to read this first chapter, the first verse, uh, in Hebrew, it would say, "In the beginning, Elohim created the heavens and the Earth." Not El. "In the beginning of the heavens and the Earth, which are now." I came across this many, many years ago talking with a very impressive, well-known rabbi. He was the one that put me onto this when I was very young, that, "God did not create." He said, "God did not create man." There's nowhere in the Old Testament, or what you call the Old Testament, where it says God created man. Do it. Just doesn't say that. And so I began to look at this, and he gave me all the, the ideas. The long time ago.
So the first thing we need to look at is, as I said, the word is incorrect. God is El in Hebrew, but it's Elohim, and Elohim means the Gods, in the plural, more than one God. So the correct understanding of Genesis 1:1 is that, "In the beginning, the Gods created the heavens and the Earth." We need to define our terms first about God and what does the word God mean in the Old Testament Hebrew. Uh, here it is, uh, for you. This is God in the Hebrew is Elohim. Gods. More than one. So in, uh, Genesis 1, it says, "In the beginning, Elohim created the heavens and the Earth." So it's more than one God. But.
Here's the important part. We see it again. This is from another Bible translation where the word "God" shows up. And then it says, in Hebrew, it's Elohim, which is plural, more than one. So, God, Elohim, is plural.
The word Elohim on the top, it says, "The word Elohim is a plural word in Hebrew. The plural form of the noun ends in 'im'." M-o-t. Elohim is a plural form. On the bottom, it says, "It is interesting to note that even though Elohim is plural, the Hebrew dictionary still translates it 'God' instead of 'gods'." This is what has confused people around the world because the actual word in the Bible is "God's." And this is why, why you will see in a lot of the reference works, they will make the distinction and show you this. The plural form of El.
Now, when you go to the actual scriptures in the Hebrew Bible and the Jewish Bible, it says, "Elohim said, 'We shall make man in our image and after our likeness.'" But it actually says in Hebrew, Elohim said, "We, we meaning more than one, we will make man."
Remember the Moses with the Ten Commandments? Uh, where Moses receives the law, the Ten Commandments, from God. And what is the first commandment? The first commandment says, "I am the Lord your God who have brought you out of the land of Egypt and out of the house of bondage. And you shall have no other gods before me." He didn't say there are no other gods. He just said, "You will have no other gods before me."
The emphasis, I was told many years ago, was, uh, Rabbi pointed out, is that God is saying to the Hebrews, people with the Ten Commandments, "I am the Lord your God. You picked me." So there's a group. What I'm saying is that picture of, say, 12 or 14 different gods, and each one is equal to the, to every other one. But if you pick one and you make a deal with that one God, then you have a relationship with that God. And so this is why God says to the Hebrew, "I am the Lord your God, and I shall not have any other gods before me."
So, basically, it's like a young man telling his fiance, "You know, there are many other young men out there like me, but I'm supposed to, you know, I, I'm going to study with you. So I don't want to have any other young men in my place." So God was a jealous God. But I, it's understandable if there were many other gods. So, uh, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." He didn't say there weren't any.
Now, if you read from Exodus 20, verse three, this is just some of the ways that it is expressed in different translations. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." "Yes, I have no other gods." Then in the, uh, Hebrew, the third one down is from the, uh, from the Hebrew Bible, and it says, "Thou shalt have no, no Elohim, uh, in my presence."
So, uh, the ancient Hebrews realized that the word was mentioning more than one God. But it's Christianity today that has, uh, caused that Elohim to be brought down to a singular term. And there's a lot of, um, talk about this now and starting to come out that that there's a lot of question about what does Elohim mean. Well, it just means more than one deity.
Judaism is said to be a first monotheistic religion. Mono meaning one, theistic meaning the study of God. But in point of fact, uh, Judaism is not a monotheistic, uh, religion. It is, it's the correct term is henotheistic. H-e-n-o. Henotheism. Well, henotheism means picking one God out of a group. And so if you pick, as I said, if you pick one God out of the group, then he is your God, and you are his people. It doesn't mean that that's the only God in the whole universe. No, it's just your God.
Deuteronomy 11:16 says, "But be careful not to let yourselves be seduced so that you turn aside serving other gods and worshiping them." So the Jewish God, the God of the Jews, was telling them, "Yes, there are other gods, but don't, but don't be worshiping them."
First, you need to know that the people we call the ancient Hebrews were not Hebrews as such. They were, in fact, Phoenician or Canaanites. And this is where the, you can trace back in the encyclopedias, in the, in the dictionaries about ancient Canaan and the ancient area we call today Israel and Lebanon, that whole area, they were called Canaanites.
Here we have another article. This one was from a Jewish magazine. It talks about, "It is the faith of the people of Judah, and it's the developed faith of the Semitic people known as Hebrews or Israelites. It is recognized as the first religious tradition noted for its monotheism." Then it goes on to say, "The Hebrew tradition did not begin as monotheism."
So then we find out that all the people of the Middle East were anything but monotheistic. They were, the so-called Hebrews were, in that time, henotheistic, meaning picking one God out of many.
Here at Liberty University, they had articles about henotheism toward the assessment of a plurality in, in the Hebrew Bible. I'm, I'm hoping to show you that this is understood in many Bible reference works. The word henotheism, and what it actually means. "The God of Israel and ancient peoples' growing understanding from henotheism to monotheism." We see this happening with the human race for thousands of years. Things change. When religion begins, it has a, a particular understanding of God. Give it a thousand years, and that changes. And add another thousand years, and it changes again. Until today, we have a whole new understanding that there was only one God in the universe and he created man. Which, in point of fact, is not true.
The one article in the middle on that was read, it says, "Um, we have previously established that the mighty ones are the sons of God, the Assembly of Messengers, and that Yahweh was a part of these messengers." So this is another, uh, another thought being expressed, that Yahweh was one of the many gods.
So again, it's important when you see here in the scriptures, in the Hebrew, it says, "Elohim said, 'We shall make man in our image.'" Now, it's interesting too, is that when Elohim, are the gods, said, "Come, let us make man in our image, after our likeness." Uh, as I was told many years ago, this was a mis, a misunderstanding of the sentence. You should not read it that God said, "Come, let us make man in our image, after our likeness," and then that would prove that God made man. No. It, the correct way to understand it is that the God says, "Come, let us make man in our image, after our likeness." Not make man, but let's make him in our image, after our likeness. Well, that, of course, implies that we have been, uh, tampered with with our DNA. This is maybe a long time ago, but nonetheless, we were, we've been tampered with, and we still are today. We're still, even as humans, we're still tampering with our own DNA.
I'll tell you what the story was. The story in the Bible, the story of Jesus in the New Testament, can be boiled down to. And believe it's going to take about four hours for me to lay out all of the proof of what I'm saying. I got proof of every word I'm saying. But let me give you the bottom line. And then don't hang up on me, just listen. Because immediately, most people go, "Oh, that's a bunch of bull. I don't want to hear this." Well, then you will miss something.
The bottom line on Christianity, the teachings of Christ, and the teaching of the, and the whole story about Jesus and the New Testament, is actually very simple. It was so simple, no one saw it because it's right there in front of you. The bottom line story in the New Testament, story of Jesus, is this: the war between light and darkness. Simple. That's it. Night and day. That's exactly right. Day and night. That's right. The war between light and darkness.
There are 12 hours of light in which man is happy because he can rule the world, and he can grow plants, and he can be in charge of the earth, and he can build buildings, and he can do wonderful things because it's warm out, and the, the, the weather is nice, and it's very warm, and he's in charge. He can see everything because his eyes are fixed to, to see things in the light. So he's learning great things, doing great things, having a ball being human in the light.
But when it gets dark, it gets cold, and freezing cold at night. Boogeyman comes out. Uh, all these demons and devils and all these evil things come out at night. The boogeyman's going to get you. Was scared of the dark as children. So there's always been a war. The ancient, ancient peoples, thousands and thousands of years before the Roman Empire ever existed, thousands of years before even the Grecian Empire existed, the ancient peoples of the world realized there's a war going on in heaven between light and darkness.
So you have 12 hours of light. Thank God we got light. We got warmth. We got the sunlight, and everything is wonderful because we're in control. Humans are in control. But at night is when the predator animals come out. That's when the lions come out to eat. That's when the animals come out, all the, the predator animals around the world, the dogs, the animals, they, and the animals on the Serengeti plains of Africa, the animals come out at night, and they're coming out to eat. So therefore, during the daytime, when it's nice and warm out and sunlight, you might want to start building a house and building a fire because at 6:30, the sun's going down, and the animals are coming out to eat. So if you want to protect your wife and your children, you better build something around you tonight, 'cause the lions are coming out tonight. The animals are coming out. So you better prepare yourself for the Prince of Darkness.
And so therefore, there's a war on the earth between light and darkness, between the wonderful light of life and the horrible darkness of the Prince of Darkness. And so there's a war, a war going on between light and darkness. That's the basis for the New Testament story of Jesus.
Now, Jesus, in the story, represents a metaphor. In this understanding, Jesus is not an actual man who actually lived, but Jesus is a metaphor, a symbolic player in the story. Therefore, Jesus represents. He said, "The Bible has Jesus saying, 'I am the truth and the light, and nobody comes to God unless he comes through me. I am the truth and the light, and no man comes to the Father unless he comes to me.'" So therefore, Jesus has now established himself symbolically as representing, in the story, the truth and the light. Therefore, his opposer, the one who is the evil one, is called the Prince of Darkness. Therefore, the devil is always appropriately the Prince of Darkness. Why? Because evil things happen in the dark. Murder happens at night. People get drunk. There were killings. There, all kinds of horrible things happen at night, in the cover of darkness. So that when you get into all the occult stuff going on with child sacrifice, all those are works of darkness, 'cause people who are enlightened don't do those kind of things.
So therefore, the works of darkness are evil. Obviously, they're evil. Well, take a "d," the letter "d," and put it in front of the word "evil," it becomes "devil." And take an "o" out of the word "good," and it becomes "god." God is good, and devil is evil. We're talking words here, concepts. The devil is the Prince of Darkness, while Jesus is the truth and the light. Therefore, the whole story of Christianity, and I'm going to go through about four hours of it, but the basic story is that the truth and the light, Jesus, is doing battle with his evil brother. Evil, with a "d" in front of it, becomes devil. And so the devil is the Prince of Darkness, and Jesus is the, is the truth and the light.
Therefore, the whole story of Christianity is what happens to the truth and the light in this world? What happens to the truth and the light in this world that we live in? Well, first of all, that's laughed at. It's spit on. It's nailed to a cross. It's, uh, it's arrested. It's trampled on. Spit on. Nobody wants anything to do with him, and he's outcast, and he's hated. That's what exactly true. The truth and the light is spit on, laughed at, mocked. Nobody wants to hear the truth. You know, like, like the movie star, you know, what was his name? He said, um, um, the, the officer in the military, when the kid, "You can't handle the truth." Yeah, that's it. So he asked, he asked Tom Cruise, the older guy, asked Tom Cruise, "Now, what do you want from me, son?" And he said, "I want the truth." He said, "You can't handle the truth. You ain't man enough to handle the truth. You want to hear the real truth? I'll tell you the real truth." And so that's why, "Let's see how big a man you are. You want to hear the real truth? I'll tell you what the real truth is."
The whole idea is that there's a war between the truth and the light. Jesus said, "I am the truth and the light." And his great enemy was his evil brother. Evil, with a "d," devil. So therefore, the devil was the Prince of Darkness, and he's doing battle with the prince of light, the truth and the light. So the bottom line on Christianity is what happens to the truth and the light in this world.
So whatever Jesus said in the Bible, that's what the truth and the light would say. But whatever happened to Jesus, well, that's what the world. So whatever Jesus said in the Bible, that's what the truth and the light would say. But whatever happened to Jesus, well, that's what happens to the truth and the light. Wherever the, wherever Jesus went, well, that's where the truth and the light went. Well, what happened to the truth and the light when it got there? Well, that's what happened to the truth and the light when you see what happened to Jesus.
And so when you begin to see there's a correlation between the truth and the light doing battle with the devil, or evil. Now, the truth and the light is referred to as God's son. Well, that's what Jesus is called. God's son. Why? It's because the sun, s-u-n, is the light of the world. And of course, Jesus is referred to as the light of the world. He said, "I am Jesus, I am the light of the world." And so we call him, him, God's son, s-o-n. God's son. Since nobody owns the sun, China doesn't own it, Africa doesn't own it, and we think we own the whole goddamn universe in America, but we don't even own the sun. So since we don't own the sun, and nobody else on the earth owns a sun, then who owns a sun that comes up every morning? Who owns it? Well, logic alone would tell you, must be God, 'cause ain't nobody on Earth owns us. So must be God. I don't know. So it's God's son. Well, that's what we call Jesus, God's son. And we say that Jesus is the light of the world. Of course, the sun is the light of the world. What else lights the world if it's not the sun?
So God's son is our Risen Savior. Of course, the sun, s-u-n, is your Risen Savior. Every morning about 5:30, he rises, and it is your risen savior because if the thing don't come up, we're dead in three weeks, right? What is this earth going to be like with no sun? We know in winter when the sun goes south, we're freezing. Wait till there is no sun. There is no heat in our solar system, period. The sun's gone. We're going to freeze over, big time, real quick. So therefore, you better hope that sun comes up every morning at 5:30, 'cause he is the hope of the world. He's the light of the world.
Now, not only does the sun represent warmth, and represents life and light, so you can actually see instead of rumbling around in the dark for the rest of your life, you know, you can actually see things. You're doing great things. Learning great things. Having a ball. Being human.
Now, you can begin to see where this story is going to go. All the things which happened to Jesus is the war between light and darkness. And a classic example of what I'm talking about, uh, is there's a story in the Bible in the New Testament where Pontius Pilate brings out two prisoners. In, uh, in, in Jerusalem, he brings out two prisoners. He's the governor of Jerusalem, he's the governor of Judea, and he represents Rome, and he's the governor. And in the Bible, it says that Pontius Pilate brought out before the city, he called the meeting, and all the city was there, and he brought out two prisoners. He had on the left-hand side, he had Barabbas. Barabbas was known to be a murderer, a liar, and a career criminal, not a, nothing of any redeemable value in this criminal. And on the right, he had Jesus, the light of the world.
So here is a guy who's dedicated his life to the dark side, was an evil criminal. While on the other, on the other side, you have the truth and the light, Jesus. And so the scripture says that Pontius Pilate said to the crowd in the city, "According to the custom of your people, your your custom in Rome, uh, once a year, I can release one prisoner to the city. I can let one prisoner go. That's our custom. So today, I will release one prisoner according to our custom. Which one do you want? Barabbas or Jesus? You tell me. It's your custom. You tell me who to release." And the Bible says, the Bible says, with one voice, everyone, with one voice, said, "Give us Barabbas." Nobody in town wanted Jesus. No, nobody. "Give us Barabbas."
That's a spiritual metaphor. That's an encoded message which is saying, here's the end. Here's the encoded message in that is that when the government or power, the authorities representing government or representing power, God, I don't care what you call, whatever the power is, and when the power of this world presents to to the people, you have one of two choices. You have the criminal, or you have the prince of light. You have the truth and the light, or you have a criminal. Which one do you want? Everyone agreed, they wanted Barabbas. "We want the criminal. We don't want to hear the truth and the light. We're not interested in hearing truth and light." Why? Because we are democracy. Democracy means we want somebody like us. We're all a bunch of alcoholics, rapists, law breakers, fanatics, goofballs, airheads, criminals, stupid, ill-informed, dimwits, self-centered, egotistical. So we love Barabbas. He's like us. We can deal with him. But Jesus represented the truth and the light. We're not interested in no truth and light, period. Give us Barabbas, not the truth and the light.
So, as I've said to you before, that is true. I have learned that over 50 years of speaking to people around the world, that the one thing that people, generally speaking, do not want, because people will always support what they want, they will not support what they don't want. The one thing people will not support ever is the truth and the light. People, generally speaking, are not interested to look at the real truth. You don't want to look at your wife for who she really is. You don't want to look at your children who are on drugs because they are telling you this is what kind of a parent you were. Your kid's in prison. Your kid's on drugs. Your kid flipped the car and killed somebody, and it all goes back to you. What kind of a parent you were. So you don't want to hear the truth. You don't want to hear that the people in your company don't like you. You don't want to hear the truth about you. You want to hear the, you want to hear what Prince of Darkness. So go to the baseball game and the and the football games and all your silly alcohol and your parties and bring your beer and your and your pretzels and because now everybody's like you. You know, we're democracy. Everybody's like you. You, you, you're, you're ignorant, ill-informed, unread, dimwitted, religious goofball, bigoted, racist. Well, so is everybody else. So you fit in just fine. Everybody loves you. Unless, of course, you are into the truth and the light, and in that case, nobody wants to hear you. They're not inviting you to any parties. They don't want to hear from anything about you. They don't want to hear this truth and the light. It's a symbolic story. The people always love lies. They are never going to accept the truth and the light.
So with one voice, it says, the whole town said to Pontius Pilate, "Give us Barabbas. We know we can handle him. He's a criminal." Well, so are we. He's one of us. Jesus, he represents the truth and the light. We don't want to hear it. No, thank you. Why? Because if you were sound asleep and you were very tired, and you've sound asleep, and someone slipped into your bedroom at at 3:00 in the morning and flipped on a 600-watt bulb next to your bed, your immediate normal human reaction would be to jump quickly and hide your eyes. Why? Well, because it, first of all, scared the hell out of you. 600-watt bulb, boom! All of a sudden, it woke you up and scared you. But it also hurt your eyes, and you turn away from it and go and cover your eyes because it, it hurts your eyes. That's a normal, natural reaction.
When you're confronted with the truth and the light. So therefore, anyone who is extremely bright, that's a word we use in relation to light. If someone's really bright, intellectually, spiritually, very bright, and they're trying to enlighten you, and you've been in the dark all your life, you don't know what's going on. You've never read nothing. You don't know nothing. You don't understand nothing. You got nothing. And someone comes into your life who is intellectual or spiritually enlightened, and they're like a 600-watt bulb going off in your face. You've never heard any of this. So the first thing you do when you hear someone who's in the truth and the light, of giving you the truth and the light, you turn your head and go and cover your eyes because this guy's brilliant, and I've been in the dark all my life, and I don't understand what he's talking about. All I know is the BS I've been told all my life, and I got a religion, I love the Lord Jesus, and I drank a lot, Hallelujah, yeah, and Hallelujah, and pass, pass the booze, and all that stuff. And now I find out that there is no Jesus, and the whole thing was a metaphor, and I'm a fool, and my government's gone, and, uh, and my government's gone, and all of that. And so once you understand all of that, it's, it just means you're a fool. You've been deceived. You're in the dark. It's the work of darkness, and you're in the dark, and you cannot deal with the light and the truth.
So when Jesus says of himself, "I am," it's, it's a metaphor. It's a symbolic story. Jesus said, "I am the truth and the light. No man comes to the Father unless he comes through me." Obviously, if you want to actually communicate with the divine principle in heaven called God, I don't know if you're smart enough to do that, or if you're brave enough to do that. But if you actually want to communicate with God, it would be better if you just stay in your little silly ass religion because everybody loves you, and you love everybody, everybody feels good about it, everything, amen. But if you really want to contact the spirit in the universe, then don't even come to that great divine presence, the great spirit in the universe, with your silly ass religion because if there is a God out there, obviously, if you understand how big the universe really is, and if there is a divine presence in the universe that has created all things, in your mind, you're calling it God. Well, if there is a God, don't try and communicate with that God with your silly ass religion, with your beer drinking, silly ass routine that you're dancing around the stage and singing hymns and falling all over yourself and blessing everybody with with incense and spreading water and people and giving all that silly. And then, of course, you're making millions of dollars a year doing it. Don't think you're going to go to the divine presence in the universe that we call God with your silly ass religion and it ain't going to fly. You're going to talk to God? You better go clean. Because if there is a God out there, and that God is in the position of power that you say he is, then your silly ass routine ain't going to fly 'cause he already knows what you are.
So if you want to go to God, you better come back. You better go back and do some homework if you want to talk to God. The best way you can do it in your silly ass religion is just go to your church, and you'll feel much better going to your church and talk to God and dance around the stage and sing hymns and light candles and do all that good stuff, and you feel great. But you're not even getting close to the divine one. So don't even try it. Because if you going, if you're going to go, actually, in fact, before the divine presence in the universe that men have called God, then you are not going to go there with your silly religion. Nobody goes to the Father unless he comes through me, the truth and the light. So you better look at yourself in the real light and see what the real truth is before you go talking to God. So nobody comes to God unless it goes to the truth and the light. So if you're going to go to God with your silly ass religion, stay home. It ain't going to fly.
You mean I can't murder someone and just say sorry? Yeah, you could. Sure, if you're in California, you can. No, but I'm saying, you can't go to God with your silly religion. With your Jewish religion, you're not going to God. You have no idea. All God is is "dog" spelled backwards, okay? That's why you have church dogma. So if you're going to go to God, you need to get all that religion stuff out of your head. All that silly church stuff out of your head. All of that man-made, silly ass, money corrupt corporation, big time money, dancing on the stage and wearing your wearing your religious clothes and lighting candles and singing hymns. All of that is to make you feel good in a church, which is nothing more than a social organization. If you want to talk to the divine presence in the universe that men have called God, yeah, you have, first of all, better take a couple of courses in astronomy and find out how big this universe really is. And find out how big the universe really is. And if there is somebody out there that's over this universe like God, then you got to figure he's going to be a lot smarter than you, and he knows your bullship from a long time ago. So don't go to God with your silly religion. Ain't going to fly. That's like you coming to me to, to look for a, I'm, I'm the government. You're coming to me for a job, and I'm so impressed you're coming to me. What are you kidding? I'm not impressed with you. Hell, I got you. I got your, I got your paperwork right here. You've been in jail three times. You've had six wives. You owe the government money. You've been convicted of four different felonies, and you're coming to me for looking for a job. What, what's wrong with you? You should be ashamed of yourself. You think I'm stupid enough I'm going to hire you? Same thing with, with you going to God. No, I'm going to go to God, and I want to talk to the Lord God, and I want to. Are you kidding? With hell with your background, and you're going to go to God? First of all, you can't even read. Your silly ass religion is one of the silliest religions on the face of the earth, and you're going to go talk to God? Come on.
So no man comes to the Father unless he comes through me, the truth and the light. Yeah, God's son, the light of the world. The sun represents light, and the darkness represents evil. That's why Jesus is the Prince of Peace, because it gets very peaceful when the sun comes out. Yeah, it could be a storm at night, electrical storm, but when the sun comes out, but all of a sudden, it starts, the sun dissipates the storm, and it gets peaceful. So he's the Prince of Peace.
And then we have the story in the Bible where Jesus, in a boat on on the sea. And the scripture says, in the New Testament story about Jesus, he's in a boat, and it was not the Queen Mary, you know, not 700, uh, uh, rooms of dining and elevators. No, it's just a little boat, fishing boat. And it says in the Bible that the, that a storm came up, and that these, that the guys, the sailors in the boat, who were seasoned sailors, they've been through everything on this, on this. But the storm was so bad, it says even the seasoned sailors were frightened that they, they were going to die. That's how bad the storm was. It's a bad storm. Must be a bad one, 'cause the guys who've been out there all their life, this time they're really scared. So that was really scared because it's a bad storm. And therefore, they said they had to go and wake Jesus up to tell him how bad the storm was. Logic alone would tell you there's a, this is a metaphor. It's a symbolic story. What are you talking about? A storm so bad, and we're not talking about on the Queen Mary, we're talking about a little fishing boat, and the damn storm is so bad that the sailors themselves think they're going to die. That's how bad the storm is. And Jesus is sleeping. He didn't know anything about it. Sound asleep. How the hell are you going to be sound asleep when the storm is so bad the sailors are committing suicide? It's so bad, and Jesus is asleep. He didn't know anything about it. They had to wake him up. Son of God. And then it says, "But when he woke up, and he rose, uh, he told the storm to quiet, and the storm quieted down." And they said, "My goodness, God's son caused the earth, caused the storm to, to stop."
Well, of course, if there's a horrible storm on the sea at night, that's when the big storms happen. Is at night because of the inversion of the heat and the and the cold air at night. The, the air is rising from the heat of the day, and it hits the cold air, and that's when tornadoes and and and, uh, and hurricanes and terrible storms at sea. But when the sun comes out, the sun dissipates the, the, the storm, warms the, the atmosphere, and the storm subsides. So when God's son, who is the light of the world, of course, the sun is the light of the world, our Risen Savior, of course, it's your risen savior. And when there's a horrible storm on the sea, yeah, when, when he rises, why, it's, he, storm on the sea, talking as astronomy, the sun heats up the, the, the atmosphere, and the storm dies down. Makes sense.
So there's about 40 to 50 different stories in the Bible. I'm going to go through. But each one basically will tell, tell you Jesus represents the sun, s-u-n. Because English people will tell me all the time, because they hear this and they say, "Well, that, but that's using English. That's just in English. It works. The s-o-n and s-u-n." That's said, "No, no, no. English is a German language. It's called Germanic language. Look it up in an encyclopedia. English, English is referred to in encyclopedia as low German. It's a German language. It's a Germanic language. English, low German. And therefore, in German, high German, that thing that comes up in the morning, you know, it brings light into the world, sun. It's called the sun. But how is it spelled in German? S-o-n. In German, that thing that comes up every morning and brings light into the world is spelled S-o-n, sun. And therefore, we in low English changed it, and we say S-u-n. And therefore, your boy who is your offspring is your son, why? Because he is the light of your life. Your, your whole life is in your son. And so when the people see your son, whatever anyone does to your son, they've done it to you. The idea is, whatever you do to my son, you've done it to me. If you treat my son with respect and honor, then you have treated me with respect and honor. You messed with my son, you've messed with me. He's my son, and what you did to him, you did it to me. He can't pay you back, but I can. So that's why Jesus is referred to as God's son, the light of the world.
So the idea is, and we can, we can probably end it now with this last and final comment, that Jesus represents the sun, the s-u-n, the light of the world, our Risen Savior. Of course, the sun is your Risen Savior. If it doesn't rise in the morning, we're dead in about three weeks. Therefore, the sun represents in the ancient prehistoric world, the sun represented the truth and the light. Because at nighttime, if you see someone doing something, you can't swear by it because it was dark at night, and you can't swear. But if it was in broad daylight, now you know the truth because you saw it in broad daylight. So therefore, the, the Prince of Darkness is evil. Put a "d" in the word "evil," it becomes "devil." Prince of Darkness. While God's son is the light of the world, he is the truth and the light. All makes sense.
Well, whoever did write the, uh, Bible is quite clever. Very clever. The Ten Commandments. If you're living by The Ten Commandments strictly, well, it's very clever. You're a good man. Yeah. But remember, in The Ten Commandments, the first commandment was, "I am the Lord your God. Thou shalt not have strange gods before me." That's a whole subject right there in itself. That's a two-hour subject right there. Well, right there, I don't like it. Yeah. Because, because, because The Ten Commandments, first of all, there was two sets of The Ten Commandments. There was the first set of Ten Commandments which Moses came down from the mountain Sinai and saw the, the Hebrew people, his people, dancing around the golden calf. Now, that's a whole subject. And he got so upset with the Hebrew people. The Bible says he threw down and broke the law. So that's where we get in our, in our terminology, "someone has broke the law." Why? 'Cause that's what Moses did. He threw down the tablets of the law, and they broke. So he broke the law. So he was the first law breaker. Then God gave him a second Ten Commandments, which were different. Yeah. Yeah. So he had to go back up there and do it again. And God gave him a different Ten Commandments. This time. I wonder what the first ones were. Yeah. Well, very interesting. The first ten commandments, you will never know because the scripture says it, he broke the law. He threw down The Ten Commandments and broke them. And so the second Ten Commandments is in the Bible. That's the second set. And I think it's interesting that the first, uh, commandment is, "Thou shalt, I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have strange gods before me." It doesn't say God was not saying to, to Moses, "I am the only God in the whole universe." No. Read it. What it says. And this comes from a very high-ranking Rabbi I talked to back in 1960, over 50 years ago. The Rabbi sat for hours, and I used to sit and talk, and he was a very high-ranking Rabbi in America. And I used to talk to him for 1960. And he said, "It's read it. What it says. Don't read into it. Read it." It says, "The first commandment is, 'I am the Lord your God. I'm not the only God. I am the Lord your God, and I will not have strange gods before me.'" He didn't say he was the only God in the whole universe. No. Obviously, he's not the whole God in the whole universe. He said, "I am the Lord your God," saying to Israel, saying to the Jews, "I am your God." And so therefore, we know, and that I will not have strange gods before me, which is the same thing when you're getting married, or you got it, you're going steady with a girl. You say, "I am your steady. I'm not the only guy in the world." No, but I'm the only one in your life. Let's get that straight. There are lots of other guys out there better than me, but I'm the one in your life. So I don't want to have any other guys, you know, coming around, creeping around. Uh-huh. Mhm. So let's just get it straight who the boss is here. I'm not the only God, but I'm the only one in your life, period. So therefore, God saying to the, the Israelites, "I am the Lord your God, and I will not have strange gods before me." Now, you can mess around with the gods later on, behind me, but they better not have any before me. So you can have a lot of men friends if you want, but when it comes to personal stuff, just me. I don't care if you have boyfriends at work, and you have other people, other guys, you know, yeah, but I am the Lord your God, and I will not have any other strange gods before me.
There was a, a professor I heard once talking about Yahweh, and why I was interested in it. And he said it also implied, uh, stored power, that when it is released, it's, it's has something to do with power being released, the creative power being released. Does that? Well, that, that would not flow from this term Yahweh. That is a, whatever an expansion, uh, into this particular professor's theology or beliefs. But obviously, uh, if you contemplate, uh, first of all, uh, with the logic that God granted us, God with a capital G, you would say the following. Well, here we are on this planet called Earth. By us, an intelligent life evolved here. According to the Sumerians, helped along a little by the Anunnaki from Nibiru. But there was evolution, which is, by the way, described very scientifically in the first chapter of Genesis. All those who think that there's a contradiction between Bible and evolution, totally wrong. Mhm. So here we evolved, and we philosophically and otherwise, uh, say, uh, there is God. God, a creator of heaven, of earth, and of everything here. Now, we say, maybe there was, there is, there could be, definitely, uh, life on Mars, another planet, another. The question is, let's say, so let's say that some beings evolved on Mars with our mental capacity. Did they have their own God? In other words, is there God of Earth and God of Mars and God of another planet? Now, you said, "No, no, no. That that doesn't make sense. There must be one God, whatever we mean by that, of of our whole solar system, Earth, Mars, doesn't matter." You say, "Okay." Now, we are discovering, which was logically, mathematically presumed before we discovered, that there could be other solar systems and other planets around other stars or suns, and life could have evolved there. And, uh, Zariah Sitchin and Jordan are sitting and discussing this whole issue. And they say, "Well, yes, uh, that solar system where, uh, the seventh planet exists, etc., they have their God, their creator of. But, but we have our God." In other words, each solar system has a creator. Does this make sense? No. So you end up, if you really have an open mind, with saying, "There must be one power," to use the term that you mentioned from that professor, "one power, one Creator, one God, whatever we mean by that." Yeah, that created everything. And not only created, in my opinion, but even determined the course of events from beginning to end. And not only in, uh, faiths like as ours, but at the end of my book, "Divine Encounters," I give a translation of a, um, Hebrew prayer, which is called "The Lord of the Universe." Which clearly says that, uh, this concept of Lord of the universe, not of a solar system, not of a planet, was there before anything began. Mhm. And will be there after everything ends. And you know, a conference dealing with catastrophes might as well hear this. What I'm saying is that God will be there even after the last catastrophe. Yes. So, uh, this is really the concept of God. Now, how does it fit in, uh, with, uh, that Sumerian tales of Anunnaki who came here from another planet in our own solar system? How does it dovetail? What it tails in the Bible? It dovetails by saying that this entity, whether it has a shape, whether there's a form, I don't know, acts through emissaries. And this is the meaning, as I understand it, and expound it in the book, in the chapter, this is the meaning of what God answered Moses. He says, "I can be whatever, whoever I want to be." So I can be, and little, I can be Anki. Makes sense to me because they are only my emissaries. And this, I think, is the real truth of what we have to understand from the Bible. Yes.
There, I attended a lecture once, uh, with Lee and Vivian Gladen, who I think I have mentioned before, to you in passing, that wrote a book about the same subject, I think it's called "The Eras of the Gods," where they talked about the celestials or the extraterrestrials or whatever. And they made the point that there were only two scriptures in the Bible, both Old and New, where the where the word "God" implied a divine overshadowing creative force in all creation, as opposed to all the other places except those two that talked about Elohim, which was different from the word "gods" with a small "g." Right. This must be understood. These are gods with a small "g," who in turn were the emissaries of God with a capital "G." And in the New Testament, on which I'm not as, as an expert as I'm on the Old Testament, but even there, uh, there is the statement that "I'm Alpha and I'm Omega. I'm the first and I'm the last. I'm the beginning and I'm the end." Which is exactly what the Hebrew prayer states. That's a fascinating. There was so many questions in relation to that, but I'm very interested in the sons of God also. That is, um, were the Elohim the sons of the sons of God, or were the Elohim, they were God, and it is their sons born on Earth who married the daughters of Adam? So then we could say, then, then what you're saying is the Elohim were the ones that in the Hebrew is referred to as the sons of God? Uh, no. The Elohim are the, what the Sumerians called Anunnaki. Okay. Those who from heaven to earth came. They are Elohim in the Bible. Indeed, when you encounter this term, and and mostly in connection with the so-called pagan gods, also called Elohim in the Bible. Indeed, at some point, um, um, Joshua, uh, gives the Israelites before they cross the Jordan into the Promised Land, "You now have a choice. Like, make up your mind. Do you want to follow the Elohim of Egypt? Do you want to follow the Elohim of Mesopotamia?" Mhm. "Or do you want to follow Yahweh as the monotheistic concept of one God that rules, controls, designs, etc., everything?" You know, uh, the Prophet Daniel in the Old Testament, I think it's 4:23 in Daniel, says, uh, that he was given a vision by God where he saw the Earth, and it was in a total, the words were, uh, a desolation, a destruction, and a desolation of the world in a vision, taking him back to an ancient time. Can't remember exactly how the words were in in Daniel, but that reminded me of Genesis 1:2, where it says that, "God created the heavens of the Earth," or "Elohim created the heavens of the earth." And the, and the earth. I raise my hand to to to tell you that, that's, I mean, indirectly, you raise a very, very fundamental question for biblical scholars. That's.
For theologians, uh, in Hebrew, uh, the sentence, the verse says, "Bereshit," which is translated, "In the beginning, God created the Heaven and the Earth." And many, many theologians for generations, even going back to Talmudic times, you know, even the time of the Temple, the Second Temple, asked, "How could it be that the story of creation, of beginning, starts with the second letter of the alphabet, the Bet, the Beta, the B, and not with the first letter of the alphabet, the Aleph, the Alpha?" It just beats logic, beats your beliefs. And what I show in my book, "The Last, the Latest One, Divine Encounters," is that if you add the Aleph, which may have dropped somewhere along the rewritings, etc., of the Bible, it becomes "Bereshit," not "Beit of Rashid," the father of beginning, created Elohim, the Heaven and the Earth. Oh, okay. So the Supreme Creator created the, the Anunnaki Elohim, the Heaven and the Earth. And that is a whole different subject. And that, I really hope, uh, that through, through this interview and, and then all, all, all, all the, uh, exposure that it will thus give, that, uh, those who, uh, uh, have the say in these matters would really consider this suggestion by me, that, uh, if you add the Aleph, mhm, you give a whole new dimension to this first sentence of the first book of the Bible. Very, very interesting, very important. I feel, uh, the second scripture where it says, "And in, and in that time, God created the heavens of the Earth. And the Earth was a, was without form and void." I am told, and as I have researched this, that it can be equally and legitimately translated a different way. Rather than, "the Earth was without form and void," it can be translated, "the Earth was a waste and a desolation," or "became a waste and a desolation," implying that there was already an, an Earth situated, then came a great destruction, and then the Earth became a waste and a void. So that, uh, the implications from what I can gather is that Genesis 1:1 is saying what you have established, and then Genesis 1:2 is saying that the Earth that we have today is a recreation or a new situation, because it was an Earth in former times that was destroyed.
Well, there are these interpretations of how to understand, uh, that verse. But of course, there is a Sitchin interpretation, right? Uh, because, uh, it is clear, and not just to me, to all scholars, uh, that, uh, the, the story of creation and then continuation, the Tower of Babel, the Garden of Eden, and of course, the Deluge, uh, the great flood, are really versions, um, concise versions based on the earlier Sumerian writings. People have to remember that Abraham was a Sumerian. And, uh, therefore, that if these are versions of the Sumerian epic of creation, and my, then the words "Tiamat Raba," which are translated as "chaos" and all the other terms that you have mentioned, uh, really refer to Tiamat Raba, Tiamat, the great, the great Tiamat. And therefore, it is precisely, uh, what the Sumerian texts say, that there was another planet, and that perished in the celestial battle and the collision. And therefore, the interpretation that you mentioned, though it is not, uh, it is not linked to the, to the words or to the name Tiamat, links to the same meaningful result. In other words, that Earth is the result of a celestial catastrophe. There was a catastrophe from which our planet emerged, right? So it leads to the same conclusion in different ways. And maybe it's good that, yeah, you know, two, two approaches lead to the same conclusion. Yeah.
I, I have always felt that there was most likely, uh, another civilizations, ancient civilizations, even before. And this is just my own conjecture, even before the ones that we know of. Definitely, definitely. You're, you're absolutely right on that. Because even according to the Sumerian tales, and especially, I mean, many texts, but especially the so-called King List, uh, that deals with the, uh, cities, pre-diluvial cities, and with the 10, uh, anti, not anti, but antediluvian, with E, preceding the Deluge, 10 rulers, which I'm compared to the 10 Patriarchs in the Bible before the Deluge. And there were cities, there was a civilization. The Assyrian King Ashurbanipal boasted that he could read tablets from before the, the flood. So all the indications are, uh, that they recognized, referred to, and accepted this fact, that there was a civilization. But a civilization of the gods. Mhm. Because those cities, pre-diluvial, are spoken of as cities of the gods. Right after the Deluge, there came cities of men, with the help of the Anunnaki. So there was a time of a, let's call it a divine, divine civilization, divine culture. As you, I'm sure know, uh, in the Egyptian, uh, beliefs, uh, the priest Manetho, mhm, who paralleled Berossus, they lived more or less at the same time. And, uh, the heirs of Alexander, in, uh, in what became eventually Byzantium, uh, hired a Babylonian priest to write the history of the world of mankind, based on the Mesopotamian and the priests in Egypt, uh, hired the priest, Egyptian priest Manetho, to do the same. But the versions are very similar. Both, by the way, spoke of, uh, a series of calamities that preceded the Deluge. It's not clear at what intervals. Calamities that would have preceded the Deluge. Yeah, the Deluge was just one of them, the most, the most, uh, remembered one. Right. Uh, according to Berossus, indeed, they were, uh, alternating. There were calamities by heat and fire, and then there were calamities by water and, uh, cold, etc. And Manetho also spoke about the dynasties of the gods, very, which is the Sumerian gods. Because I show in my books, uh, especially the one "Stairway to Heaven," that they were one and the same. And that if you ask yourself, what do the names mean, you see that the names meant the same, except this was in ancient Egyptian, this was in Sumerian, later Babylonian, Akkadian. And then he said there was a period, uh, according to Manetho, of almost 3,600 years of demigods, which meant offspring of the Anunnaki, like the sons of gods in the Bible says, married the daughters of men and had children by them, and these would be called demigods, right? And then only began the human civilization with the Pharaohs, around 3,100 BC. So, what you are, uh, stating very, very clearly, is really, uh, can be supported and expanded by all these records from the past, some available more or less complete, many just in fragments.
Well, you know, about 20 years ago, I talked with the president of the American Philological Association, who was a good friend of mine, and we used to carry on long conversations over the phone. And I asked him about, in Genesis 9, I believe it is, where this is after the flood of Noah's day, God says to Noah to go forth with his sons and daughters, I mean, sons and wives, and go forth and multiply and replenish the Earth. Replenish, obviously, means to do again. And, yes, that was understood. That was to, obviously, to redo the Earth, because God had destroyed so much of the, uh, light. But then again, if you go back, as I said to him, if you go back to Genesis, uh, one, I believe it's 28, where God creates Adam and Eve, and it's, and he's telling the original couple to go forth, reproduce, and replenish the Earth. Do it again. No, the word "again" does not appear there. It says, uh, uh, "Be, be, be fruitful" in terms of having, you know, offspring, uh, "multiply and fill the Earth." But it does not have "replenish." Well, in the original, well, regarding Adam, well, yeah, that's what I, that was the dangers of translations, you know. The translators, uh, really interpret. Yeah.
No, um, there are so many questions. I know that I have wanted to ask in relation to the word "El." "El," being one of the, was "El" in fact a Hebrew word as such, or was "El" existing before the Hebrew language? "El" is the Hebrew for what? Hebrew stems from Akkadian. All Semitic languages stem from Akkadian. Canaanite, Phoenician, Phoenician, Moabite, etc., stem from, from Akkadian, which was the language that came after the demise of, of the Sumerian civilization, a little before, and, uh, Babylonian, Assyrian. Mhm. Right. So when I read an Assyrian text, it's almost like Hebrew, I mean, not exactly, the dialect and so on. So, so the Hebrew word "El," which is usually translated "God" or, uh, "divine being," really is from the Akkadian "Ilu," "Ilu," "Ilu," yes. And, uh, it, it meant literally "the lofty one." So if you want to be very precise, uh, you have to translate wherever it says "El," you have to say "the lofty one." Now, I was asked, you mean the elites? The lofty one. You never know. You never know. Maybe "elite" comes from that. Yeah.
Well, it was a new subject. Uh, the, I was asked, for example, by, uh, my brother about, he says, "Well, if Yahweh told Moses, who persisted to know, 'What is your name? What is your name?' He said to him, 'Call me whatever, or tell, tell.'" He really told him, "Tell the Israelites that whoever I want to be, I'll be. Sent you to be my spokesman, emissary." So my brother asked me, and then it says there that he says, "I did not tell my name to Abraham or to Isaac." That's right. Yes. So my brother said, "So when Abraham referred to whoever told him, 'Leave your home, go to Canaan, do this, do that,' who was he talking to?" No, when he went to his wife, when he went to Isaac and said, "I'm supposed to take you to Mount Moriah," who did he say, who did he say told me that? Good question. If he had no name, I said, "Well, we find an answer to that." Because after, uh, Abraham saved his nephew Lot from the attackers who came from Mesopotamia, you know, the war of the Kings, the Kings of the East against the Kings, the Canaanite Kings, he saved him. He was met at the gates of the future Jerusalem by the high priest who offered him, uh, bread and wine. And he wanted to offer Abraham some, uh, some of the booty, some of, you know, material. And said, "No, no, no. I did it because El-Elyon instructed me to do it." El-Elyon means "the Supreme El," not "the lofty one," which would be an Anunnaki, but "the one who is above them," which takes you back to God with the capital, etc., etc.
I, I am so very appreciative of your time, but I really have to ask you something that's important to me in my particular, uh, work in examining the, uh, occult or hidden symbolism in our modern-day religious and political movements. I became fascinated about 20 years ago with the symbol of the Sun as it is used by the secret societies, the fraternal orders, and especially in our political and religious, um, symbolism today. It was fascinating to me that the sun, when you brought up that what we're talking about, or it was, I guess David Talbott even talked about the, the sun being Saturn. But the sun has been used, that sun symbol with the, uh, with the winged, the winged sun. You brought out was the symbol of the Anunnaki, the symbol of Nibiru, of the so-called 12th planet. All right. So that implies, because as I showed you on these monuments, which I shall just do of them, I could choose many more, and that symbol, by the way, also appears on Egyptian monuments, Hittite monuments, right? This was, uh, the, the symbol connecting the king, the priesthood, with, with their gods, with the small "g," that was the symbol of the planet. And as I showed on the same monument, which gives the 12 members of the solar system, you definitely see the sun, you know, with its rays, totally separate, and the symbol of the, what's called the winged disc. And, oh, okay. So you see them simultaneously together on the same depictions, which are repeated and repeated. And you see Earth as the seventh planet, planet, mhm, in many instances. You see Venus as the eighth planet with eight rays. You see Mars as the sixth planet with six rays. So everything corroborates what, what I've written.
Well, the, the sun, as I said, is a, is a particularly important symbol to me, because I see it, uh, in so many, uh, political and religious pictures and symbols. And of course, with the coming of, uh, Christianity, the, the concept that the Messiah is God's son. And I believe that there can be a, a comparison made between the ancient, uh, veneration of the sun, S-U-N, in our language, as opposed to a veneration of the individual, S-O-N. Um, and I think probably that has some problems with our languages and interpretation. But, um, what do you think about the symbol of the sun itself and the importance to the ancients, like the Sumerians, etc.? Well, if you're talking about the winged disc, then this, this stood for the planet from which the Anunnaki came. In, in Sumerian times, with the ensuing Babylonian and Assyrian, the sun, the sun god, with, in Sumerian, Shamash, in, in Hebrew, and all the other languages, was not the significant deity at all in the hierarchy. The Shamash, according to the Sumerian, and therefore further believed by the Assyrians, Babylonians, and others, was the son of, uh, the god that, uh, in Akkadian is called Sin, not from sinning, but was from Suen. And he was the moon god. So, according to these hierarchies, yes, uh, Shamash was the son of the moon god. Mhm. Not so when it came to Nibiru, the ruler of the Anunnaki, stood at the head of the pantheon. Okay? So the pantheon had to do with the Anunnaki, from where they came, and the ruler there was the head, and his symbol was the winged disc. So, this really has to do with all these, uh, misconceptions about, uh, who the ancient peoples really worshiped. Whether, what I'm trying to get, yeah. And, and many books written, especially, uh, at the end of the 19th century and the beginning of this century, say there were these, or that people were sun worshippers, and this was a sun religion. And the Egyptian god Ra, some say Re, but it's Ra. I mean, the same people who, who spell it R-E, then go and write the name of the Pharaoh, Ramses, R-A-M-S-E-S, which means "is born emanating from Ra." So when they say the name of the Pharaoh, they say Ra, but when they say the name of the god, they spell it R-A. It's Ra. It's Ra, because it also appears in the Bible. So, they say he was the sun god. He was not the sun god. Uh, he was the god who came from the planet of millions of years, which is the parallel of Nibiru, a planet, definitely a planet, not the sun. So that there's so many misconceptions, that it may take a century to get rid of, because it's an accumulation of, uh, two, three centuries of research.
Yeah, my colleagues, I have about four or five, I think it's five. Two of them are doctoral theses, and others are, are articles, long, extended articles appearing in the Middle East, on the word "Chief Cornerstone." And I picked up on that. That was a fascinating study where the word "Chief Cornerstone" is translated from the Hebrew when it appears in Hebrew, which is, I think, Psalms 118:22, where Messiah is referred to as the Chief Cornerstone. Well, while in the, uh, the Christian Greek scriptures of the New Testament, the Messiah or Jesus is referred to twice as the Chief Cornerstone. That word "Chief Cornerstone," what does that actually imply for the Messiah in both Psalms and, and in the Greek? Have you, it is not "cornerstone." In other words, when you lay the foundation, you have a cornerstone, right? It's the apex stone, "Rosh Pina." They had where the sides meet, like in a pyramid, the apex stone, the top stone, the one that is really the conduit to the heavens. Yeah, because I, that's what these articles were all saying. Everyone was saying it was the pinnacle of pinnacles, a pinnacle, pinnacle, yeah, but not foundation stone on the ground. Now, the big question, of course, obviously, is going to be on the back of the $1 bill, of course, is the Egyptian pyramid with the 72 stones of the 72 names of God, I believe. But the implication with the apex floating heavenward, and if that is the Masonic symbol, that's right. But it is also, as you brought out, the word actually in Hebrew in Psalms, which means "the peak of the pinnacle." And remember, even in the New Testament, when Satan takes Jesus, uh, to the temple to tempt him, the scripture says he takes him up to the pinnacle of the temple, to the point of the temple. I am totally sure that there's a lot of, of, um, symbolism that the early, we should rewrite it, the Bible, yeah, in English, not in Hebrew, that's very important to me. I was thinking about a new translation based on my understanding. I think that would be absolutely important for so many people in the Western world to get a better grasp on the symbolism, the implications of the original words, where they came from, and just get a new understanding from where all of this has came, with your help. Yes, I would love to do.
Come to, is there anything else you might tell us about that symbol of the, uh, the pinnacle or the, um, the Chief Cornerstone, and how, how that might be of importance to us, particularly in this time that we're living, when everyone seems to be in the, especially in the, in the Christian world, looking for the Messiah? What would be your thoughts on the concept of the Messiah being the Chief Cornerstone, the coming back, God's? You don't think I'll be drawn into that? No, I don't. No. Okay. You try. Okay. All right. Because I, I will go on record as saying I think that there is an entire story here that needs to be looked at. This whole concept of a coming kingdom of God, the Messianic Kingdom, the Chief Cornerstone, the ancient gods. There seems to be, I think that the literal translation, even from the New Testament, is the not just the second coming, the second, but the return, the return of the kingdom of heaven, right? Yes. Return. The earliest Christians, this is from an encyclopedia, not from me, the earliest Christians were referred to by Romans as atheists. They did not believe in God. Why? They were atheists. Why? Is because they did not believe in the Roman gods. And since in Rome, the Romans understood thoroughly that their gods, the many different gods of the ancient Roman Empire, was absolutely, definitively, without a doubt, absolute gods. And if you did not accept the Roman gods as an absolute truth, then you are obviously, in point of fact, an atheist, because you do not believe in Rome's gods. And so today, when somebody makes a statement that I am an atheist, when my whole life I have said over and over again, I have the highest respect for the presence in the universe of what men have called God. But you need to define your terms. When I define God, I mean some sort of an unseen, absolutely profoundly wise, and intriguingly simple, powerful presence around us. It kind of overshadows. I like that term. It overshadows our life. It doesn't, it doesn't slap you around. It doesn't make you do things. But it's as if something is watching you all your life, where you're going, what you're doing, and watching what you're catering yourself to. And it is some kind of a, of a spiritual presence that you feel, that the universe is, is, is being overseen by some kind of a higher power, some sort of a higher. And why? Because there were too many, uh, things which happened which imply an intelligent, uh, stuff going on all around you that you're not aware of. I mean, there's all kinds of experiences people have today in their life. They keep seeing certain numbers. Some people see certain numbers keep coming up in their life. Some people will seem to, uh, to, to have premonitions of the future, and they see things which are going to happen. There are people who are psychics who can read your mind. There are all kinds of strange phenomena which we live with every day, and people experience every day, which has no, uh, explanation whatsoever. And of course, the, the Marxist-Leninist communist people of America, who couldn't care less about God or anything spiritual at all, they say the whole thing is all a bunch of baloney. It has nothing to do with anything on the earth. Well, I say, no, I beg to differ. There is too many, there are too many things going on in this earth and in the lives of every person on the earth. And everybody I meet tells me, "Boy, I had the strangest experience when somebody came into my life and did this or that, and I saw this or that, and and and I had these, uh, strange, uh, premonitions." So I know that there's just too much going on with the human family that defies imagination. So I, like all other men who, who care, I have to assume that there is some kind of an overshadowing intelligence watching us. And it gives to each one according to his deeds. You do things good for people, people will come back and do good things for you. If you go out and hurt other people, other people will come in and hurt you. So it's like a law in the universe. What goes around comes around. And why is that in everybody's life? Does somebody keep track of every single human? Yes, somehow or another, there is a continual monitoring of human life on the earth, and everybody gets what's coming to them eventually. So there's too many things that I know, and I've seen with my own eyes, that tells me, uh, there's a, a classic example. And let me give you an example of what I'm talking about when I say something is overshadowing us. Listen to what I'm going to tell you. You may have heard this before, but if you haven't, listen closely. It has to do with a situation with Abraham Lincoln and John Kennedy. Have you ever heard the connection between Abraham Lincoln and John Kennedy, the president? Uh, yeah, actually I have, uh, because I've spent a lot of time. Well, let me, let me read it. Let me read this to the people who haven't. If you've never heard this, then listen closely. Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846. John Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946. Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860. John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960. The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters. Both presidents were particularly concerned with civil rights. Both wives of both presidents lost children while living in the White House. Both presidents were shot on a Friday. Both presidents were shot in the head. President Lincoln's secretary was named Miss Kennedy. Kennedy's secretary was named Miss Lincoln. Both were assassinated by Southerners. Both were succeeded by Southerners. Both successors to both presidents were both named Johnson. Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808. Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908. John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839. Lee Harvey Oswald, three names, Lee Harvey Oswald, who was said to have committed, uh, assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939, exactly 100 years apart. Both assassins were known by their three names. Both names are comprised of 15 letters. Lincoln was shot in a theater called Ford. Kennedy was shot in a car made by Ford, called Lincoln. Uh, both ran for the, both, uh, Booth, John Wilkes Booth, ran from a theater and was caught in a warehouse. Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in the theater. Both Oswald and Booth were assassinated before they could go to trial. All of these coincidences are not coincidences. This all seems to be telling you a story that things are happening all around you, and they are mysterious. Why these dates? Why this connection? Behind the scenes. So the world is filled with, with strange things. Like I said, the book, "The Complete Works of Charles Fort," gives you a whole book full of things which have never been figured out why they happen. So I'm just saying that the world is being overshadowed by something that mankind calls God, but you have no idea what that word means. You have no real idea about what you're talking about. So you need to define your terms and wake up and get, and, and train yourself to be intellectually honest, and then you will all always see how much you don't know, how much you don't understand, and then you will begin to ask questions. And that's what the human brain was designed to do, is wake up, grow up, become adult, and ask questions, and begin to train your mind to be intellectually honest, and look at the facts. And, uh, look up the facts, like Steve Allen used to say, there are two kinds of facts: the kind you look up, and the kind you make up.