Muscle Insights With Eric Seifert: Biomechanics Of Bodybuilding

Sweet. Do you do anything in there? Is that your garage or your basement? Where you at?

>> No, it's my basement. It's my like wreck room down here. So, it's my office.

>> Do you like, do you, do you haven't do any workout stuff there or is it all just work stuff?

>> No. Yeah. No, it's all just like kids playground. My sauna is, my sauna is over there, and then my desk is over here with all my work stuff. And then like the kids have like an extra like giant TV and a wreck room kind of thing for them. So,

>> That's cool. What kind, what kind of sauna do you have?

>> Yeah, it looks so awesome behind me.

>> Infrared sauna. Infrared sauna. So,

>> Do you do, is that, is that better than the normal one or is the normal one better? I've heard both ways.

>> Well, one is sort of what you have and what you don't have kind of deal. You know what I mean? So, you know, it's pretty good for an insight sauna. So, it's not that big a deal. It was like a huge, huge deal. My wife bought it on like marketplace. So, it was like, shout out to Facebook, right? I was like, "Oh, somebody like literally the guys came in said it was a birthday gift for me." The guys came in, set it up, and like it came in in panels and boom, here you go. We got a sauna. So, I was like, "All right, never going to turn that down."

>> You use it a lot.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Do I do my best, you know, probably don't use as much as I should. Some people are like, in a sauna every night. I'm like, "Okay, well, that seems like a little crazy for me." But, you know, it's like when I get a chance to do it, maybe once a week, that kind of thing.

>> Well, I had one of my, one of these early sponsors. They sent me um that ice bath, like a like a homemade ice bath that you put, turn your your tubs. I I got a big ass, you know, bougie tub, so I was able to make it into like an ice tub. It was pretty, pretty good. I I haven't used it. I have it right there.

>> Do you?

>> I have it right there, but I never used it.

>> I used it twice.

>> I have an ice tub outside which is right beside the hot tub which makes that easier to like do the dunk and go back and forth kind of thing. So,

>> So you do that pretty often?

>> I, you know what? So, funny enough, my, my uh last year I like had my open cuz my wife bought it for me for Christmas and I ended up having it out and then all of a sudden it was like, "Oh, this is great. This is great. This is great." And then all of a sudden, it totally like froze up. So, I'm like, "Oh, giant wall of ice." And I was like, "Ah." So, this year I I thought I'd get ahead of it and I got a um I got a um uh I guess like a little heater that goes in it, right?

>> I guess the same heater in your ice bath cuz you're in [ __ ]

>> Well, well, exactly. Yeah. You put a heater in for uh cow troughs, right? So, so it just keeps circulating and then it won't, it'll get really cold, but it won't freeze.

>> And then it got colder than that. And it

>> How cold is it? You're getting in there. You're getting like in [ __ ] 30, I guess you're like 32. Like right freezing pretty much. Yeah, you get it. You get it pretty cold for sure.

>> That's colder than than I like to do. I like 45 or so.

>> Yeah, pretty much. I'd say like 45 is pretty much where I'd rather get in. But, you know, it's like once it gets colder than that, you're like, "Okay, man. That's what I'm doing." So, you know,

>> That's that's cool. So, we haven't, I guess, I mean, we we talked pretty regularly. We haven't talked super recently. What's what's going on at the uh at the gym and with your guys? Who you working with?

>> I just worked with uh Robin again. I did another video. And

>> Is he back to like doing normal [ __ ] with his bicep or what?

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, he's all cured up now. Everything's working.

>> [ __ ] looking or he looks okay?

>> Oh, it actually looks, it actually looks better um

>> Than his other side than his. Yeah, it's actually

>> Some people, some people a little small tear can make [ __ ] look kind of cool sometimes.

>> Yeah, you get that like kind of crazy bicep. You know what I mean? Well, he already has pretty high tendons and so so uh and then he tore the one, he tore his other one and the doctor at least said, "Oh, you want me to fix both of them?" And I think he bailed out. He was just like, "Oh god, I don't think I can handle like, you know, cuz you be in two braces. It's like, who's wiping my ass?" All kind of stuff. It's kind of like, "What do I do? Oh my gosh." You know, and I think it was, it was already stressful enough. So, he was like, "You know what? No, I think I'm just going to repair the recent one kind of thing." So, so uh and it was only a small uh it was a small tear down at the distal end that it kind of pulled up a little bit. I think it was maybe three, two cm that it had pulled up. So, they could kind of pull it back down. They didn't have to do like even a uh usually when you see like a motorcycle accident, they tear it, tears right off and they have to like they have to drill it into the other side. His actually could be anchored properly on that side. So, it's only really a small kind of horizontal uh scar that, you know, looks great. So, it's not going to be a big deal. But, he's been getting, he's um starting to be to do the same therapy I do now. So, he's taken a year off to like just train and devote time to studying. And so he's like, he turns like, he looks like a silverback gorilla right now. So, he's he's doing fine. He's doing fine.

>> Who else do you got? Are you uh were you doing Seavoy? It wasn't Seavoy. Who else?

>> Yeah. Yeah. Justin. So I see that I train. Actually on Monday I do a video with both of them. It's like, okay, two giant, two giant bodybuilders at the same time. That's going to be great for a back workout. You can imagine.

>> And then today I did uh one of the guys up here um Gregory Dawson. He's a a a classic pro, you know, not I mean a local guy. I don't think I don't think he's international, you know, crazy whatever. Um but obviously a pro and I just worked with him today for a chest workout. So that should be coming up pretty good sometime soon.

>> Yeah.

>> But again, these guys don't really understand. You know, so many even though they're bodybuilders, there's so many like, all my life I've been chest up. All my life I've been >> lifting my chest up and you know everything. I was like, "You're doing an incline press." Like, what is going on? You're doing a decline press. What are you doing? You know, it's

>> You know, hey, you got to kind of control your rib cage and hey, guess where those shoulder blades get to go? And oh my god, I could

>> That was one of the things that I kind of didn't love that Joe would say. That was kind of the RTS thing is where they would be talking about like, you know, change your angle by changing your sternum, you know? So, arch, arch, arch, like get rid of the low ribs and you can, you know, if you want to do more of a flat press on an incline, just arch. And now it's a flat press. I'm like, "Well, do do a a flat press with your rib cage neutral." Like, "Don't turn an incline into a flat press." I don't know if that's RTS or that was just Joe, but that was

>> No, I think I think Joe's misinterpreted that a little bit. So, so Tom would actually go through

>> um Tom would actually go through, at least in classes that I've taken, he would go through and talk about skewing load through a pec. But again, it's the RTS thing is kind of like um creating an opportunity, right? It's like this is who should be doing the work. If I create the force lines, this is who should go to the work, right? And but but ultimately then you get a bunch of humans trying to figure out how to [ __ ] with that too. And so Tom doesn't have a problem with arching, but he he would arch at least again based on what I would interpret.

>> He didn't have a problem with arching. He just wouldn't do the big rib cage wave open position, you know? So he'd be like, "Oh, you want to arch? No problem.

>> Here's how you control an arch." You know, it's like, "Okay, you want to skew this into a decline? No problem."

>> Why does that get lost? Like I see Joe, but every everybody everybody who like says that never does it.

>> Yeah. I mean Joe actually does. I've seen Joe pop open his rib cage pretty far. And I don't know Joe has, I don't know if Joe still still got a bunch of Ben Ben tends to do it too. Still gets in that weird rib cage expansion thing. It drives me bonkers, you know. But um I don't know. It's so it's such a merge. Like you almost have to go back to old saved files and like, you know, save a new file because it's like they go right back to something they've done for so long and all of a sudden there they are again, you know. I've watched Joe, I think I see some stuff where, you know, and he's really solid what he does, but again, you go back to an old video of what he's doing and you're like, there it is again, big rib cage flaring out and, you know, so you know, not to be critical of people's stuff and there's all kinds of videos where people could have done something better, but it's back to the same like, oh, we've always done this since bodybuilding, since powerlifting merged into bodybuilding and and they can't just pull it out. Like, it's just, you know, or they're using a weight that they can't, they can't change it because the weight's too heavy to even come close to a different strategy, you know?

>> Yeah. So, I think that's like you're kind of down that road so far that you're like, uh oh, I'd have to go this far back to change that and somehow either I'm invested in it or or it's so ingrained there that I just can't,

>> You know, I can't go back that far.

>> You know, I find that's sort of one of the bigger challenges. Or even breathing. How far, how fast, how far do you have to push people back to even finding breathing pattern that actually represents? But when you have a load on somebody that's so heavy or a range that is so deep and then the strategy to get that load that heavy and that deep turns into this is where I'm doing this to my rib cage and I'm back to like, oh, what are we really trying to challenge here, you know? Like guys, you know, well, I feel shoulder, chest, sort of chest, all. And I'm like, you don't even feel chest there.

>> A lot of a lot of times stuff sounds good, but then like when you watch them, sometimes I'm it's like, okay, well, what you're saying actually is pretty pretty right. I would agree that, but in the practice of it is not exactly the the same thing. You know who I just had on who was a cool dude was um Jordan. You know Jordan Shallows. You ever

>> Yeah. Yeah. Jordan. Yeah.

>> Is he up there ever? Is you ever go to Pure? I know he's up in that area.

>> Uh yeah. I know he was up in Pure for a good chunk of time postco and then obviously he went out on his world tour of wherever he goes.

>> That dude travels all over.

>> Yeah. He's, I mean, he's he loves big words though. I'll tell you that. If you could say something in the most simple way possible, he'd find like 20 different words he could use to to say it the most complex way. So, you know, I mean,

>> I'm sure people say that about me. I don't know if I I felt like cuz we were kind of speaking slightly different languages, so I guess he didn't really do that so much with me, but yeah, but like I I know people have said that about me, but sometimes it's like the it's the only way to express certain things in this model. You know what I mean? So it's kind of like

>> Well, so the challenge of like when you start dealing with acronyms and stuff, then people get a little lost because they're like, I write A something, this like a I see something, and now you're getting into like, I got to teach you, I got to teach you some kind of verbiage to give you a map. You know what I mean? But but you know, I I I mean, Jordan is very smart. Very smart. Obviously, uh, you know, I've never seen him do chiropractic, but it doesn't mean he doesn't do it. Um, you know, just because I didn't see it, but whatever. But, you know, he's very smart and he deals with a lot of stuff. But, but again, if I'm going to be critiquing somebody, it just sounds like, you know, dude, up and down is not that hard to say up and down. You know, like it just seems like like he spends a lot of time like, we already bought in. You're already smart. You don't have to prove to me that you can say words other than up and down, you know?

>> He, when I got the vibe from him, which was, you know, I've talked to a lot of people now doing this, like a hundred. I mean, obviously, and in real life, you know, in Hollywood and all these, but out of even like in Hollywood with all the actors, like he's he's one of the most, I just gave off such of like a a vibe of confidence. He seemed like one of the most confident dudes I've ever like, not not a bad thing. Just like, just like

>> No. Yeah, he's very confident, dude. I'll give you that for sure.

>> Which is that's cool. That's got to be cool to go life with that that just oozing out of you cuz obviously you don't feel that way if you're [ __ ] don't know your [ __ ] But it was it was I don't know. body. So, I I have bodybuilders that come up to me after that they're working with Jordan, then they come back to me and they're I'm like the

>> like the uh uh defrag guy that has to explain what the [ __ ] he just said. You know what I mean? Like, well, that means little bump, that means big bump, that means, you know, like it's like I have to explain his verbiage because he decided to, you know, almost like you got to come up to me. I'm going to talk this way and, you know, in the fitness community and God bless him. He's obviously doing really well. I'm happy for anybody, but it's almost like when I talk to to doctors or I'm talking to it's like I'm going out of my way to say the most simple way and eventually they think I don't know the big words and I'm like, no man, I understand the big words, but most of the time I have to take it apart and say this really complex thing in the most simple understanding, you know, and and and that's when I get some doctors kind of look at me like, right, okay man, yeah, you know, okay, I I get it, you know, like I don't need to hoard it over you like you're already buying a session with me. Do I need Do I need to convince you that I know the big words? Like, you know, so we don't really need to use those, do we?

>> Yeah. I feel like I'm a very big mix of the two. Sometimes I'm very intuitive with my words, very basic, and then other times I don't have another way to do it. So that's

>> Yeah. Well, that's the c the challenge is like, oh my god, I have to teach you the map before I can talk to you about the map, you know, like. And so sometimes I laugh when I'm talking to to students, like, you know, therapy students, and I'm kind of saying, look, a bunch of this is is language going on in your head. If you have to start talking this out loud, this is not client speak, you know, like if if you need to, you know, hear yourself speak, this is about you trying to feel comfortable or trying to feel powerful or something. And half the time, you don't need to use those words or the client doesn't need to understand that, you know, oh, let let me teach you how an engine works before I talk about how an engine works, you know?

>> Yeah.

>> Like, no, no, man. I just need you to fix it. That we're good. You know, I trust you. You can fix it. One one of the questions I asked, I don't have anything prepared for us today either besides the form critiques and some video and some questions, but I always like when we just, I feel like we shoot the [ __ ] pretty good, but one of the, yeah, one one of the questions I asked Jordan and it's a hard, it's a weird question, but maybe you'll have some something to add to it was kind of like

>> At least this with the model that I use and we use a lot, it's kind of like force production equals loss of movement options, right? Like that's that just kind of goes hand in hand. Like if you're a highle, you know, powerlter or you're a pitcher, like whatever, like you, you

>> You that stability, stability almost becomes a like that, like the having to stabilize all that movement options almost becomes a hamper when you're you're trying to sync up things super fast. And so what what a lot of people that do what I do and people I really respect, you know, like Bill and Dr. Pat, I feel like a lot of them really kind of tie in that force production like directly to hypertrophy, when obviously there's there's there's a link, right? You know, but but what I want, like because I always hear them talking about how you're just, if if muscle is your goal, you're going to lose just so many movement options because you're just producing so much force, when when I the way I think like that, like that like massive force production, that's actually at the expense of like a lot of yielding and you can think of like time under tension, right? Like you don't want to spend a lot of time on the ground. If you if you have a high ground contact time in explosive sport, you're you're [ __ ] sucking. And so I don't, I I just don't know how much options bodybuilders need to lose in order to like build muscle, right? Because do we need as much massive force production on the system or do we need more localized stress and failure on on the tissue? So I'm just wondering how do you look at this? How do you kind of think about this and and balance it out with like bodybuilders, aesthetic people? Obviously totally different with athlet athletic stuff.

>> Yeah. I mean athletics is its own thing. Not to say bodybuilders aren't athletes, but you know what I find

>> We're very not athletic. We're training it out of our system a lot. At some point you're like watching a bodybuild run, you're like, "Oh my gosh." And then you get some crossover people, but obviously in elite bodybuilding, they've decided the lane they're going to be in and and you're not going to be like, "They go play hockey, you know, like they go."

>> Yeah. But there's a difference, right, between like an Antoine versus like I compared him and Ian Ian Verier. It's like,

>> Sure. Yeah. Ian Ian, no offense to Ian, he doesn't look like he's running out there playing hockey or doing back flips, you know what I mean? So it's like, so some of these guys have decided, look, this is the lane I'm going

>> And some of them already have metrics. It's not like you take a a champion or Samson and say, "Hey, let's learn to skate." Do you know what I mean? But if he learned to skate, he learned how to skate a long time ago and and maintain that.

>> Have you seen Have you seen James do that? James Holland's head.

>> No, I haven't.

>> Dude, he [ __ ] was getting wild on the skates at like 300 lb cuz he did it when he was younger and people were like, "Please [ __ ] stop." He was like doing the tricks at the [ __ ] Nothing crazy, but he would like do switches and stuff.

>> For sure. But there's where. So there would be like a metric that I can maintain. I already have. But if somebody said, "You know what? You're 300 pounds, uh world class bodybuilder, you should learn to skate." It'd be like, "Oh, this is a disaster." Because it was sort of

>> If you're already built, what about like building it like in that process you started?

>> Yeah. If it was part of it throughout, it's like a skill you you could use as a maintenance thing, but the end of the day, the question you're asking me about is sort of the the do you just max out force production and eventually you're just down to these challenging parts. What I would say is that the big thing that we're going to kind of look at, maybe if you take this back a little bit, is is when you're looking at doing um single unilateral movements or you're doing, you know, like the force production is going to go [ __ ] sideways. You can't, you can't do this crazy force production because you got all these stability challenges or single limb or something. Um and say somebody says, "Well, then it's not worth doing because I can't produce so much. I can't use as much weight or I can't produce as much force." I'm like, well, there's there's all kinds of internal forces, right, that are going on that are just maxing out like crazy, but you're limited by your um stability factors, right? And eventually it turns into like, how can I move something the shortest distance to produce the most force? And I'm like, I'm not sure that produces the most um I think that produces the most congruency to like that's the task. And I'm not sure that's going to produce the most bodybuilder. Does that make sense? This idea of you want to move the most weight. Tom, uh, at least what I learned from Tom in RTS would be, oh, start adding more and more layers of stability so you can just get less and less things kind of moving or have more and more things you could lock in. So there's just all that force on one space, right? Make it sort of available only to one is again, it's like block that motion, block that motion, block that motion. There's only one guy left. That's where it's going to go. And then max out the the weight load or the challenge or all those things. But what you're leaving open is you're kind of building that specialization model again. You're starting, you know, just where a bodybuilder will uh sorry, an Olympic lifter or he'll be like, "Oh, everything goes to this and we get really good at this." And obviously the guys that go in the gym are really good at doing what they're doing. So they start getting more skill and more skill kind of almost specializing. But what ends up happening to me, at least what I see from the therapy side is you start leaving open, you know, to converge everything into that direction. You might start leaving open some of these sust you have to deal with that is going to allow you to lift for longer. Like that whole specialization model could be great, but you know, it's like, oh, I powerlift. I do these three things. This is what I do. And everything keeps getting better and better at that. all the other things that maybe are assisting lifts because I eventually, oh, I just can't get any better. So now I do these assisting lifts that are sort of, you know, some kind of sussing around that keep, oh, more and more force production, those directions, now I can bench press more, now I can squat more, deadlift. But why would you ever do this other dorsiflexion thing? Oh [ __ ] that has nothing to do with anything. And it's like, well, those are holes or those are parts of things are supposed to move together. And, you know, the idea of you have to, you have to powerlift to be better at powerlifting. I'm like, well, yeah, sure, no problem. But there are pieces of other things in that. And if you train something in isolation and turn around and say, hey, better leg extension turns into better squats. No, it doesn't look like squats. And I'm like, no, but better leg extension is still part of a bunch of stuff. Your body will sus out and bring those things to the party. So, could you work in isolation or could you start and stop? I I had an athlete that's a a master's bodybuilder and I just play with all kinds of, I mean, they're up, this is a a couple that I train and they're up for anything. They pretty much whatever I do, I can just change the dials and I can shift and and so we do, let's say leg extension as a simple example, and I'm always doing, okay, you're going to do uh 10 reps and then you do five cent, like I want 5-second concentric reps. So show me five 5-second reps at the end of that 10 step. And it's like brutal, right? And then I do uh a stop start. So I want everybody go up as double and come down as a single. And then so now you're doing uh an eccentric with double the load on the way down. Like I play with all kinds of those things. And one day I last week I trained him and I said uh I said, "Okay, you're just going to show me straight sets. Show me 10 straight sets. Like show me 10 reps just straight." And he's looking at me like, "What? What's the catch?" You know, right? And I'm like, "Let's just see how strong you [ __ ] are, right? Let's just see." And sure enough, uh he's at a max stack of some crazy load on the leg extension. He's maxed it out. And I'm like, so you have never lifted that heavy in your life. You have never lifted that heavy with me, but somehow you're now lifting load that you were never able to load before. And I never visited that load. Right? How do you get that strong having never visited that load? And I'm like, I've been doing all these loading and stop starts and I'm doing all these other profiles of trying to get you just ridiculously strong and able to be stable in all these positions. And all of a sudden he's moving load and like I said, he's never even dreamed of. And I never visited that load. So all the periodization, you know, stuff that people would say, oh, you have to do this and then this percentage. I'm like, I never visited those numbers. All I did was really hard stuff. Do you know what I mean? And to the world of you, well, wait, aren't I supposed to go to 200 and then I go to 220 and then I go? I said, I've never visited those numbers with them, but everything I've done is super hard. And all of a sudden I said, "Okay, let's just see what kind of strength training have we been doing." And he was shocked. His jaws on the ground like, "I've never lifted that weight in my life. I've never" And he's doing it for reps, you know? So this is where people think you have to move that load to move that load. I'm like, "No, you have to do something really hard, right?" And all those other, you know, timing schemes, rep schemes, you know, show me this, you know, and all these different things are all options for you to really sus out. There's no broken parts on this. Now let's see what you got, you know? And so he's like, bulletproof by the time I got there, right? Versus you keep trying to just say, well, just more load and more load. And as you keep stacking all that, some of these guys are just, you know, kind of turning Swiss cheese, gez, like you're you're kind of getting so narrow with how you're like, load is the most important thing. Meanwhile, they've changed speed, they've changed profile, they they've changed like uh they can't stop if they tried. It's all like they've found every way to get up there. They changed their breathing, their posture, whatever, just to find a way to deal with the load. And then somehow they hit a plateau because there's just no more strategies available. They've used every strategy to cheat their way there. And then all of a sudden you got an injury, you got trauma, you got stuff that's wear and tear, and you just didn't you just didn't make it wide enough. Do you know what I mean? Everything's just been like so pinned to be so tight. Does do you find it something like that?

>> Yeah. You know what what you're saying too, it makes me think about uh when I was pretty deep into like the F FRC ISM stuff, the internal strength model, cuz the the whole thing is like break down the components of the bigger movements you're trying to get better at, you know? So, if you're doing trying, you're you're stuck in your squat, well, let's [ __ ] get you really good at hip flexion. Let's get you really good at internal rotation, you know? Let's get really good at knee extension. So, all the stuff you're talking about. So, same thing. We would really [ __ ] hammer those through like positional isometrics or even just load those and then, you know, do do lower lower work like a lot of ISOs and stuff and then same thing when you start to go to [ __ ] actually put weight, it's just like people like, what the [ __ ] like you strengthen all the parts of it, you know? And you strengthen mechano receptor kind of awareness. So it's all good.

>> Yeah, all the links in the chain are stronger. Oh, wait a minute. Integrated strength, right? So,

>> Yeah, I feel like just the kind of the whole like mechanisms of hypertrophy are kind of like obviously not completely understood as far as cuz like I said, like like for so let's let's like what do you think? You sounds like you kind of do what I do. You do a little bit of both. But like if you have somebody who can make it like say they can do two like a plate and a quarter and a half squat and they can make that [ __ ] impossible to where they fell at like eight eight or nine like perfect form good tension and if they just like are a little bit less intense with that internal irradiation or pressure and however you want to think of it. They're not sloppy, but they're not dialed in. They maybe not feeling quite as much local local tension on VL stuff. Maybe just a little more spread out, but say they do like, you know, uh three and a quarter for eight to 10 and they're hitting failure and it's not a [ __ ] failure. It's just a different kind of thing. Like, do you touch both of those or do you think one is better than the other?

>> Uh so, if I had to favor, I'd be favoring the guy just trying to make the one and a quarter feel like three and a quarter. Do you know what I mean? Like I'd be like, man, cuz eventually there's nothing else for me to do at one and a quarter. Yeah.

>> Like there's no other trick I can put on you.

>> And then guess what? Now we're at two plates. And then we do it all again. Do you know what I mean? But meanwhile, the the the muscular stress versus CNS stress are two different things, right? And so so typically I, you know, this came up in a discussion with a couple guys and like, well,

>> They did all the work. So So it's always the grass is greener, right? So imagine I'm not big enough because I'm not strong enough. So that's a pretty easy question for most guys. Well, I'm obviously not strong enough. Okay, how do you get bigger? Lift more weights. Okay, then. So they chase, they climb that mountain and they lift weight and and obviously you're going to see some growth and you're going to see some change and a bunch of those other things are going to happen because you're just moving more load. Some of which is being dispersed, some of it's being directed.

>> Makes me think about Trell so much.

>> Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So, he's like, "Well, I guess I could just throw it everywhere, right?" And on some level, it's being directed because it's an incline press. It's probably going to go to some of the tissues, whatever. But eventually, you're kind of, again, we go down this road of just everything just to move more weight. Move more weight. And again, I sort of see this this path of of um you're not putting it anywhere you really want to put it, but it's sort of in the area. And it's not terrible, but again, at some point, these guys put enough weight on. They are now strong enough. They've seen and then you see this pro-level bodybuilder, you know, who's kind of like, "Okay, I'm now bigger." And somebody says, "Okay, just get better." And they're like, "But I climbed the mountain. There's no more, you know, like I worked with a pro hockey player and he's uh he's grown up as as a squat. He's a Swedish player, so he's definitely grown up. His dad is a pro. Him and his brother are pro." And um and he's been a squatter all his life, right? He's got hip intern rotation for days. It's like, oh my god, you're just built, right? And his style of hockey is, you know, stop, start, change direction. So, his hips are like built for that, right? Uh like a downhill skier, like crazy amount of in rotation, 90 degrees, you know, so his style of hockey, but he can tolerate, you know, four plates for squats without even a blink, right? And his dad is like, "Yeah, squatting is the thing, and squatting is the thing." He's like, "Look, I've been squatting four plates since whatever. Like, I don't know if it's I don't know if it's worth it, Dad, you know, and I'm already a multi multi-millionaire, you know, whatever. I'm not sure it's worth it." Like, squatting more than this. Like, what's the like when you can't? It always seems like there's an answer. But then you can. And I was like, what's left to climb? Like, uh, squatting five plates, would that be

>> Does that have any work, you know?

>> No. No. That's what he's arguing is like like we're kind of up to a base level of strength.

>> And and when I don't have it, it makes it like that seems like if you climb that mountain, you'll be way better. But now he's climbed that mountain.

>> And now he's dealing with a bit of a knee thing going on. And he's like, "Yeah, I just I don't know if like, you know, squatting more than 365 for, you know, 15 20 reps is worth it."

>> Like I can squat 365. What's the 405 worth? You know what I mean? And so this is where you it always looks like there's a grass greener scenario, you know, if I'm not big enough, just get heavier. Just get, you know, and then it's like, okay, well, wait a minute. We go right back to this idea that you've decided this. And the body goes, okay, that's what we're going to do. And everything starts to converge. And you got to hope that it transfers. And that's the one thing is like this doesn't transfer to, you know, like you kind of just put all your eggs in one basket. It doesn't transfer. Now you're left with what, what am I going to do now? You know, my entire business is looking at world class bodybuilders and saying like, well, there's no more weight to lift now. What do I do? You know, right? You're like, okay, yeah, I don't think going to 12 plates aside on a row is worth the, you know, like now I got elbow pain. Now I got shoulder pain. Now it's like, yep, pretty sure we lost the plot here, you know? I I just can't imagine it being just a bad thing to feel it more in your muscle and to be more sore in the muscle. Like like I felt like I got beat with baseball bats when I was really doing higher volume, but it was only in all my muscle tissues. Like my joints and everything like that's all good, but my muscles were like achingly sore. Like as a bodybuilder, I just it's hard for me cuz you know, I'll do it like sometimes like I was literally talking about myself on my new hack squat. I was like dying with a a plate and a quarter, then I went up and it's like it just didn't feel, I didn't feel the muscle as good. Like I felt muscle.

>> Yeah. Awesome. You you you're like, "Well, I'm doing it and I could." And so the internal battle is funny, right? Cuz cuz you as a as a coach are going like, "I know I let my my steering wheel change a little bit and now I'm moving, you know, almost twice the weight, but I know I changed something. Do I And now I don't feel something. I don't feel connected to something, but I move more weight, but there's that dial of like, ah, fuck."

>> Yeah. Well, it's like if it's only like it's only like 10% less, 15% less, but it's like a lot more weight. But I'm like, no, I I know like just just I've always connected to my body in that way.

>> I got to I got to dial back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But obviously you're very good at at connecting yourself and obviously your your tools are helping you quite a bit, you know, and sort of understanding your body more than, you know, but you're the expert for you.

>> Yeah.

>> Right. And so the funny part is when they get attached to something outside, I'm like, "Guys, you know, I just watched something with Nick Walker talking about, you know, he used to do 80 pound side laterals on one little unilaterally." It was on Instagram or something. And he goes, "Yeah, all I had was shoulder pain,

>> you know, and he goes, I used to do 50 pound curls and and now I'm doing 20 pound curls and I feel my arms are growing, you know." I watched I watched Samson talking to uh Sam Sulk, right? And he's like, "What are you doing? Like, you're never going to grow." And there's Sam just

>> Because he's just doing like

>> Doing Samson. Yeah. Doing what Sam does. And and you know, God bless the kid, but it's like, are what ath what kind of athlete are you? You're are you trying to grow or you're trying to just move weight, you know? So, you know, that's where I think when you don't have it, you think more weight is going to be the answer. And then you get there, you're like, "Wait, this isn't the only answer, you know, like I you've trained lots of bodybuilders. Is it dialing it is like how can we get you getting more weight or is it more how do we dial this in?

>> Yeah. I think about Trell like on the video I I posted of you can literally hear him 20 times just being like like what the [ __ ] like that pump like that is so much more. I'm like

>> Whoa, not like he was far off. Yeah. It's not like he's got far off form, but it's just dialing that in just just a little little bit more. It's

>> Yeah. I mean you can and I can watch his form, you know. God bless him. He's really always interested. He's super eager to try and learn, you know. He sends me videos and I'm always like, "Okay, move your feet." No, why are you going so deep? What are you doing there? Move your feet up. Like, you know, he's following every sort of young guy's rule of like, "Oh, you want this? Do this." You know, and then he's just a monster. So then I'm like, but but you know, you're not feeling the way you're supposed to feel it. Well, yeah, my one knee hurts a little bit. I'm like, "Dude, like

>> I'm going to be there next month, so I'll be able to get get back in there. I'm gonna threaten to come down and like kick his ass or something.

>> Well, he said he's gonna get his passport. I'm going to try to get him up there.

>> Yeah, he told me he's going to get his passport. I'm like, "Oh, okay.

>> I'll definitely come up there regardless."

>> Oh, yeah. That'd be That'd be awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll take a week off. We can just

>> Yeah, that'll be cool. Do some stuff. So, I I figured I actually got some halfway decent questions. I feel like with you, I get good questions. Everyone else, I get just the shittiest questions. You guys You guys got to get better questions.

>> Oh, I did see something. Remember you asked me about Janicki and I did see one of his latest uh leg training thing because you were like, what do you think about that? And I was like, I kind of didn't really realize how much stuff like he does some pretty extreme range stuff and I was like, like that I you were obviously looking at stuff I was not looking at because I was like, well, you know, he seems pretty solid. He's obviously a very very built dude, right? Never watched him do a

>> That that um uh super assass

>> On I think he's on a a ramp and I don't

>> W the torque wiz Jay Warren if you want 10% off torque gear.

>> Totally. But then I'm like, there's nothing touching this thing as he goes into that like [ __ ] squad in a in a hack squad. I was just like

>> Oh, his [ __ ] is pretty pretty gnarly, huh? That one's pretty in

>> Oh yeah, it's pretty crazy. But I'm just like, what could go wrong? Oh yeah.

>> Yeah. What I noticed.

>> One little move is like fluke.

>> Yeah, I know that that's a good wedge. It's anchored down there. Those magnets are strong. J1 10%.

>> Oh my goodness.

>> The uh so we I you know, I went out there and trained with him and we did we did chest, but we we did a little bit of a leg stuff too just to kind of look at and that's that's one of the things that we were having a back and forth on because I was helping him with connected some stuff on his pecs and it was cool. Then he was like, then like one of the big things I talked about when I cuz I did critique him, that's why he reached out to me. You wanted to go over was was his leg training and the fact that I mean, he's got huge [ __ ] legs. I mean, if you look at his legs, they're [ __ ]

>> Oh no, you see he's I don't know what the time lane cuz I think he showed like here's what my legs used to look like. Here they look like now and it was like whoa. Like he definitely figured out

>> You can tell those are from deep grass kind of stuff like the adductors, just the meat, like the inner and stuff.

>> Oh yeah. You see all that stuff like kind of pushing out the sides. So what I what I was trying to get him to do was potentially like isolate a little more of like what I would call like the middle propulsion, the more IR biased phase of that. So just

>> Steamers are still IR.

>> Can

I ask how how tall is he?

He's pretty tall. He's probably like 6'1", maybe.

Okay. So he's he's way tall.

He's a big [ __ ] dude. He's he's at least six foot. He's a big [ __ ] dude.

Sometimes I can't tell. It looks like some big guys are lifting with him. So I'm kind of like, well, I can't really I mean half the time in bodybuilding you're like, "Oh, that guy's really big." And then I'm like, "Oh, wait. He's 5'9"." Yeah. No, he was [ __ ] huge. We he mogged me out. We we [ __ ] posed next to each other which was [ __ ] terrible. He's, you know, I did it with with Christian right before No, Tristan right before who, you know, he's not bigger than me, but he's so [ __ ] shredded. And so then I did it with Eric who was shredded and huge. So then I was like, "Ah, fuck."

But but I was take your ball and go home.

Yeah. Exactly. And you know, and you know, and he's like he's like a good-look bodybuilder. All of his hair and [ __ ] like

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's a good looking dude. Got everything off. Shredded big. Yeah. Yeah.

But um I uh I was telling him cuz he was saying how he he didn't really understand. He's like I I feel like if I if I stop at 90, he's like my knees hurt and stuff, but I was like when I was watching I did I did his table test before. He had some pretty limited stuff. And also I was like you're squatting on a wedge in shoes. I was like you're a very

Olympic shoes, right?

Yeah. I was like you're in very representation. So you like you have a mismatch. I'm trying to bice you through internal rotation and your pelvis and your and your feet and everything else to try and keep you in ER. So, I want to work with him. We'll do some legs after he's done prep because he said he wanted to connect cuz he's awesome. He just wants to like feel it and he's got a great brain for stuff. He's a [ __ ] athlete so he connects and stuff. We We were doing some stuff. He showed me some new stuff for Shoulders that I really liked. I've been doing a lot. So, uh I really like people that are just high level and connected but are welcome to absorb everything. So, that that was cool. Do some more stuff.

That's great. Yeah. You know what? Just it's kind of funny. I like to play well with others, you know what I mean? I do play well with others, but it's like I just want to talk it through, you know? I can tell you why I'm making my decisions. I had a little young kid come up um and join me at lunch once and he goes, "Oh, yeah." And he said, "Do you notice though like your guys basically aren't lifting as much weight, you know?"

I did.

Yeah.

One of my guy And one of my every one of my guys the biggest people in the goddamn gym.

Yeah. I've literally trained the biggest guys in the gym and they're all dying. And then I had another guy come up to me and uh it was a guy he trained and and I hadn't seen him for a while and he came back and I was like, "Oh, he's a long lanky guy." And he'd actually put on some weight and I didn't even recognize him and I went like, "Wow." I went over to say, "Wow, you look great." You know, like he was deadlifting and I was like, "Wow, you really put on some size." I honestly didn't recognize you. Oh, thank you so much. You know, but then he said, you know, I really would love to to to work with you. you know, I'm just thinking one of these days I'm going to be worth working with that guy, you know. And I was like, "Oh, okay." Like that sounds very nice. He goes, "But I look over and you train the biggest guys in the whole gym and they're using half the weight I'm using and they're dying. So I'm thinking like what is happening over there? Like what is he doing to them that they're working that hard, right? And so ultimately you I don't think your muscle gives a [ __ ] about like what the number is on the bar. It's just stress, right? And so if you have internal forces, you know, to put me bodybuilding is sort of that that world which I kind of preach is like guys, you can squeeze your bicep right now and make it cramp, right? But there's no weight in your hand. So what made you squeeze that hard? Like what made you squeeze that hard? And if you can't connect with that tissue, you're standing on stage like going, "Wait, where's my weights to make me flex?" You know, like that seems like bodybuilding seems to be like the most should be the easiest to connect to the idea of flex your muscles. The passenger is the thing in your hand. You know what I mean? Or the passenger is a thing on your back or whatever it is. But they again fall in this trap of this exercise is a good recipe for this, you know, and then when they're not good, they think there's some secret recipe somewhere that they should somehow, you know, there's some secret recipe that guy's doing. Rean is, you know, now well over 300 lb. He's like, he looks huge. And you go, what's he doing? I should follow what he's doing. I'm like, look, man, he connects so well to his body. Like, you just walk over and change one thing and he's like, oh, thanks, man. You know, and it's like dialed in right away, you know, but he's it's like, oh, I didn't realize. And then he's locked in there. He's like that easy to that easy to cue. You know what I mean? And you look at his body, how well he moves and you think, yeah, there's a reason, right? It's not like he's doing some secret thing, right? Half the time, you know, Robin was talking about today, we did a session a while back and and as soon as the session was over, he started asking Robin all these questions. He looked over, he's like, "Why didn't you ask Eric when we're right here?" You know, like like he's such a good soldier. He'll do whatever you tell him to do. But sometimes he doesn't really understand the why. But as soon as he figures it out, it's like, "Oh, okay. No problem." Right. No problem. Right now, he's like, "Oh, I could work through knee pain." I'm like, "Why would you want to work through knee pain?"

[ __ ] hate that. I hate hearing that. Oh, I can I can just deal with it. Do you think what like what are some of the benefits to like moving good beyond just looking and feeling good? Cuz like I don't I don't know what it is, but I mean I found that like when you when you move right like respect the propulsive like cycle like tend to have better reactions. You tend to have better like gut health. I mean people talk about lymphatic drainage and [ __ ] like that. Do you get into that?

Yeah. So, yeah. So I just I was just listening to a talk about um something that I had actually heard uh more in the therapy world about posioelectric effect right which is really the the mechanism but that I was about bone growth. So when a bone is um compressed there's some ion exchange and it produces an electrical field but that electrical field because of force produces like tbviculi to build bone in those directions right which means yeah you got to move and you got to put force on your body otherwise it just destroys itself. When you go to space, one of the bigger pro problems is there no force on their body. They have to do very specific muscle stuff to try and generate force so that they don't basically fall apart, right? Is one of the concerns over going to space. Well, then I was listening to his talk and they were talking about um the pyroelectric effect throughout the fascial system. And this girl was talking um about yeah you know when you put force on your fascia like you lay on a ball and you roll out your leg and I was like oh my god no it's not the force we're talking about the internal forces that where muscle squeezes is also making all this fascial network have to actually move and when it moves it's producing electrical field again. So now you got bone that re that grows based on electrical current based on force. Now you got fascial relationships that are also driving an electrical current that also makes us feel really good. Then you got lymph system and vascular system. It's also relying on effectively a bunch of sump pumps to move fluid from chambers. And then you go wow how can that be bad? You know, those are all like I mean I can keep going, but those are all like moving efficiently versus putting force through joints which allow you to move more load but eventually kick the [ __ ] out of a joint. Right? So moving well has all these other ramifications about about how your body starts feeling healthy versus moving poorly. Your body's getting some movement but man it's being thrown into all kinds of joint spaces that eventually start you know saying look I can't keep doing it this way right? So moving well to me has got a has got you know many large sort of factors to it that are going to continue to say well that's there's a benefit there's another benefit there's another benefit that most people are just take for granted you know and and if you said oh I move more weight I'm like how do you move it well I don't know you know where do you feel it I don't know I'm like okay well there's first part of the problem right I think bodybuilding lifestyle could be something that you know putting all my muscle in that area that direction means oh I have to respond because you're putting work there for me to do that. And then when that muscle gets bigger. Yeah. All of a sudden now I've got more challenge to that whole system and I got to supply it and I got to feed it and I got to be healthy with it. And then all of a sudden I got muscle and it's demanding a whole bunch of metabolic load. And that metabolic load if you study cancer people that's an huge thing. As soon as you lose muscle mass there goes your pot there goes everything there. Your whole health arc just starts to go down. So maintaining muscle mass as a bunch of us get older is a huge deal, right? And so there's there many many many benefits just moving well versus just move and like okay well yeah disperse load okay that's not really what you said right make your body move well challenge yourself to move well find a way to make it harder for yourself right like all of a sudden oh increase stress increase my capacity for stress and all of a sudden all the benefits all the hormonal responses everything starts to show up right so I I find that that's moving just moving weight and moving poorly and also when all the negative sides of fend start showing up,

right?

Yeah. There's some weird stuff in the ECM world. Like I have I had my guy Fractal on and you know, we'll deal with people that have a lot of problem with it like incontinence or something, you know, like the like and [ __ ] Their pelvic floor is floor. Yeah.

He he was talking about he has these little these little little dick dudes who get like a small semi where it's like erect but not all erect and they can't get hard all the way. And it's like that blood shitty movement pelvic floor.

Yeah. Like blood flow. Yeah,

that'll get you into doing your [ __ ] once your dick starts getting weird. But yeah,

yeah, once you start losing hair, now you're paying attention.

As always with anything, like, you know, soon as the dick gets affected, like, am I dieting too hard? Am I taking the wrong drugs? Like, what's going on?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You just got to just sick. That's it. Yeah. Once you get re, it's relevant. Okay, we're good.

I can't get one out. I'm really [ __ ] sick. So, I figured there's a couple questions that might be good to go over real quick before we do the uh some of the video stuff. So, we can go through these pretty quick. Couple of them may be a little extra. Um, let's see. Um, are you an advocate for slow eccentrics or controlling the eccentrics with regular cadence?

Uh, okay. So, I find slow eccentrics, obviously, we're talking about some context here, and I'm going to jump in and think I'm I think I believe I know what they're saying. I would say slow eccentrics most often is is a bunch of weird um like oh let me find ways to build rest in but if I said a controlled eccentric when now now they have a a tempoed something they're going to have to breathe through it whatever and now we're talking about something that I would call a real true eccentric. I see people that sometimes lock out and find like oh I'm doing an eccentric and I'm like no you're kind of resting right there you know what I mean? So, so there's a few strategies that I might do for somebody wants to do like like oh holding isometric type of eccentric challenge. I'd be like show me one inch stop there and I decide where now show me stop there. Now show me stop there. And because they're not they're not going to be stopping when when I'm ready to go. It's like oh no stop there now. And so it's hard when you're on your own because you're like I think I'm going to stop here. is like, well, you just picked a way to stop and kind of change something and all of a sudden now you're like I'm thinking about bench press, of course, but where they they think they're doing like a a slow eccentric and they're just stacking it and stopping like I watched somebody do with uh that leg extension where I started doing an eccentric load and they start holding it and I'm like, "No, no, you're locked out. You're taking a little break. I want you to like I want you to actually right away slow down. I want you as soon as you soon as you get there I want you to go but now do it for a five second or a 10 second not oh stay there for one second and oh it's like no no no you're resting right now that's what you're doing so I find if you can do a console a very controlled eccentric that's way more challenging than what somebody might say is like oh I like I like holding my eentric loads I'm like no I think there's there's way too many strategies to screw with that.

Yeah. Yeah. Don't get weird with it.

Yeah. This is interesting.

Just slow it down. Just slow it down. It's like, "Show me a 1 second now. Show me a two second e center. Now show me a 3se second e center. Now show me a four." But I need it to be moving. So it's like, you know, they'd show me like how to hold it. I'm like, no, no. Now you're resting again. Like just show me you have to actually let it go and and not let it push you there. I want you to choose to move. Right. I'm thinking about that leg extension again. It's like they show me these weird strategies. Like your brain is so so plugged in to try and find a way to save you some energy somewhere, right? You know, you think you're doing a lot of work and somehow you lock something out and shifted something and it's like, oh, get that little break. You know, it's like how many guys finish top of bench press and stand there? I'm like, what do you think they're doing? Do you think they're working hard or you think they're just

That's one of the things I love about the Vulture I've been using that you can't really [ __ ] wiggle your way out of that [ __ ]

Yeah. That thing. Yeah, you can't. There's no wiggling out of that. You can't. It's like, oh my god, it's that on my hack squat and [ __ ] and it's [ __ ] like

Sure it's just dragging you into that load. It's like oh my god.

Yeah. I can't even imagine like a single leg lungey something where it's like oh and slow that down.

Oh, I haven't done single leg yet. Yeah, I should. Um I need I need to put on my harness. Um, how do this is interesting. I'll give you my my perspective and then you can fill in the gaps because

Sure. um how to address and fix snapping tricep syndrome because this is kind of one of the things that people get like mad at like a lot of the things in the model is kind of like we have like a kind of a road map if we know a little more what's going on and people are like you can't predict what's going to happen I'm like I can't predict what's going to happen but I can predict what would happen if I could get that to happen you know what I mean it's like I don't know if I can actually get what I want but I promise if I can change what I'm trying to change proximally it'll change that distally but am I going to get that change you know so I mean for me a lot of times when we're looking at snapping triceps. It's it kind of we look at whether you're wider or narrow kind of cuz it's it's whether it's more of a like are you compressing like [ __ ] through something else and we got to redirect you or is it managing like some expansion? And then also got to think about where's it happening? Is it happening as you're like extending the elbow? Is it happening as you're coming back? It's happening on both because that

Yeah. Does it feel like you're going through a range constantly or it's different? And then the other thing we would look at is no matter whichever whatever the going on, you're going to have essentially when you got that medial uh tricep kind of sublexing over that uh medial epicondile. It's like you've got some some sort of a mismatch between your humorous and your something's in more of an overcoming state. So we would kind of look and see what is more stuck internally rotated essentially. You can look at it simple like that. What what do you have less room to yield into? So is it more proximal like the humorous or is it more distal from the and then like you can you looking at all that by some table tests and stuff by the structure and then you kind of piece it together from there because it always always going to kind of come back ultimately to like the rib cage and the shape and are you able to round and produce force? Are you able to protract like really protract and not just [ __ ] like elevate. So, um, if you're wider, it's usually about getting posterior upper expansion, like and being able to properly maintain that expansion, like long like there might be some local stuff you got to do, but it usually comes down to that. And then with a and now typically it comes down to like getting a better anterior like gradient, getting a better compression, like learning how to produce true IR instead of like your [ __ ] up weird one. So, what are your thoughts? How do you how do you look at this kind of thing?

Yeah. So, so be a couple things what I would ask is like is this an overhead movement? Is this a push down? Is this a skull crusher? You know, like is this bilateral? Is this, you know, on one side? Um, and obviously then you start realizing, you know, shape of rib cage, breathing something. It typically you're going to see because you have a floating anchor system like a like a scapula that is sitting on a rib cage and it's like are you standing and pushing in front of you when this happens? is are you know are you are you um you do you have a wrist you know pronation flexion thing buried in there are you trying to move the handle or are you trying to extend your shoulder you know extend shoulder extend elbow extend wrist so a lot of times I'll see so much I'm just thinking about a push down here on an easy curl bar or something like that I see so much wrist flexion that they don't realize they're they're trying so they're building in deviations without realizing it and then now you got a fixed handle or the load is heavy enough to create a relative fixed and then you're seeing the the the sort of like deviation through radial ner stuff that turns into like oh well okay, there's a reason for me to like click over something because your humorous is is is moving in space you know and so um I think if if you had to sus out you know again I'm coming up with like well these are the 20 things I might look for but it would be it would be

again because you have a floating model. Are they on their back and the shoulders relatively fixed to a bench cuz it's now an overhead like a skull crush or something? are using and again very classic like oh I got it and you're like did you you know did you really get it

try like an er position a lot of times too yeah but see the er turns into oh carry angle right so if you're saying oh wait a minute here's carry angle and they're doing this right and so the handles are coming in and like I don't know why running across the elbow feels like click you know so I would say that external rotation uh in all these means bicep facing in front like whatever or bicep facing forward. Now, now you have to respect that there's a there's a carry angle which means my hands will typically be wider than my elbow and you're seeing hands inside of elbow and then for sure you're now seeing like all kinds of of stuff that's going to feel like well you're not running through the joint anymore. You're running sideways through the joint. And so if they had it on one side or both I'd be like well have you had any challenge or trauma to the shoulder? Um, do you find you tend to to to to grip over that bar? Um, thinking flexion is somehow the that's probably the easiest one to catch is just are you flexing your wrists to drive that down? Are you flexing your wrist to push? Because now you're dealing with all manner of radial stuff that that is like, okay, I'm going to find a path through that. And and your brain is like, well, find a straight line. Like, dude, the elbows, this is not a straight line, you know? Right. Um, I'd be like, "Hey, how are you with upward dog, downward dog? Do you find that you're, you know, off one side of like a like your little piece of form here? Are you off on one side? Do you feel pressure out here?" You know, versus I feel pressure across the flat of the wrist, you know, that kind of stuff. Those could be easy clues, right? A downward dog, upward dog should feel like, oh, I can get that flat or nope, I'm on the side of my wrist. It's like, okay, well, that for sure is going to turn it into, you know, that kind of problem. So, a close grip would kill them, right? A close skip press would be like brutal. Um, oh, it's all in my elbow. Like, yeah, your your side was off one platform and wondering why you you can't keep this flat and create this press. So, um, yeah, there'd be a lot of me, you know, 20 questions before, you know, and yeah, rib cage for sure. Uh, overhead, oh, rib cage. Oh, yeah. I don't really have the same scapular motion. Like there would be so many ways to to be like there it is, there it is again, you know, and then you have to start solving those problems, right? You have to solve solving those problems.

That was something I dealt with very little when I was really first starting get into like working out and just moving good fixes a lot of [ __ ] you know? You don't necessarily even have to.

Even if I was doing, let's say I'm doing a skull crusher, I'm like, "Hey man, why don't you switch to actually like a like a neutral like dumb two dumbbells as opposed to, oh, I have to be holding on to a bar and a pronated grip

and I can't handle the pronation. So now I'm deviated and there's my problem." So

like switch handles, you know, open your make it two mobile things versus a fixed thing and see if that opens up your problem. Um, what do we like on this? Um, this will be curious to get your response. What's a thing you changed your mind on or found out to be incorrect as you got more experience?

Um, I was probably more of a diva when I was younger. There was like right and wrong and you know, but I but I because I grew up in this industry um with my own injury like I broke I have a pars fracture in my back. Uh, thank you football. and it was misdiagnosed. And then when I finally got back in the gym after about five months of like you can't work out anymore, there was a right wrong. Like for me in the past, I think I mentioned this before, right wrong was like why would you lift it badly? You just wouldn't get the benefit. You won't jump as high. You won't hit as hard. You, you know, you wouldn't get any hypertrophy. You won't get bigger, stronger, faster. So why would you as an athlete why would you you would always invest in doing it better because there was this you know the side effect you wanted just lifting for lifting and obviously you did it badly and I got back pain or knee pain was never really an issue for me it was just oh my jump didn't get better so it was always chasing better lifting was was more performance related but but later in life um when I got injured I established like a right and wrong based on me like if I did it wrong I had back pain. So on a benefit it was like oh there's a right and wrong. So so that part was correct but my right and wrong was based on me. So if it hurt me you're not doing it, you know, so if I can't do it you shouldn't do it. And that I would say has changed over time where I recognize what my body's ability, proportions, capacity, athleticism, whatever. Um, my affinities, the thing I like isn't always what somebody else is going to like or where I'm really good might just suck for them. Do you know what I mean? And so where I used me as a template to build most of my programs in the first early part of my career, it was based on [ __ ] that I had already sused out. like nope if it's bad for me you don't do it must be bad because I had back pain when I did it but you know I that evolved for me to sort of look and say wait a minute there is better ways to do things that's not the bad message but because it doesn't work for me doesn't mean it's not going to work for you

yeah that that was like before I understood some of the like the narrow ISA structural differences and stuff it's like I I really could identify with some of my people then the other ones I like you guys are like I Yeah, I can't put myself in your shoes. What the hell?

Like now, like now I kind of I can empathize a little a little bit better. But um

yeah, even exercise selection turns into like, oh man, you can handle that. No problem. You're built for that. Oh yeah, you can go that low or you can go that deep or you know, you can visit some of these things that oh that's never going to fit for me, but cool. You know,

like a hinge. That was always the biggest one because you know I'm I'm meant to just carry [ __ ] on my back like like leaned over like I'm meant to just hinge all over. I be like, "What do you like? Just hinge. Just hinge. You can you can squat."

My little short waist is like this. I'm like, "Just hinge, man. Whatever." Yeah.

Yeah. I'm I'm like literally like this. Boom. Weights on the ground. I'm like, "Why can't you do bent over rows like this?" And everybody's standing there. I'm like, "Why can't you just go over

those longer waist [ __ ] can't do it?"

Yeah. I mean, I'm I'm a longer waist with short legs. So, but w as I is so like I'm stable over there.

Sure. Yeah. How do you grow a six-pack with my people? Like some of you guys send me the weird [ __ ] questions. Are y'all afraid of everything? Like some of you like I don't want to make people afraid. That's not what I try to do. But um this person asked, "How do you grow a six-pack without causing superficial rectus strategy?" Was like that's what you're doing when you're training your six-pack. I mean, you should train

superficial rectus strategy.

It's like if like say you're training your back extensors, train your extend when you're training your back extensors, but don't don't do that with everything else. Kind of the same thing with your abs. [ __ ] crunch, use your abs. Like if if you want to train your like six pack abs.

Yeah, it's so funny. But people have a and again I ran into this. I think we talked about this last time with um

uh one of the glute coach guys, you know, with like somebody saying something about something turns off. And I heard another like therapy high level trainer say the same thing. Well, you know, if you do this, it turns off. And I was like, how the [ __ ] Okay, guys. So nothing turns off. The whole body has got a reciprocal inhibitory response, but it's mediated by the other side. So it's not like saying if I do flexion, my erectors don't work. I'm like, no, no, they're they're on they're just they're loading eccentrically as much as your flexors are working. And so, you know, funny enough, when when people are thinking everything's on one side, there's nothing going on the other side. I'm like, no, no, that's how a joint system works, right? A joint system is oh bless you. A joint system is working around mediating these two things on both sides or in both directions all the time. So when people are thinking you know they're only on one side of an axis. I'm like no there is no one side of an axis. There's who's shortening against who's lengthening like a tugof-war that's constantly happening. And I find trunk training is funny because they're like all off all off like what like you know and I'm like what do you know guys it doesn't work that way otherwise it would be ridiculously unstable like you know oh in the front and then nothing in the front and but I find even like a simple thing like a cat cow and they just let go and I'm like no no a cat is like [ __ ] you're throwing up right like that's what like you seen your cat throw up a hairball that's what you're looking at right there. And then, but if you arch the other way, your erectors are now overpowering your flexors. But where do your obliques fit in that model? Where do your obliques fit in that model? They're erectors and flexors. If you look at your shirt and you look at the side, you go, "Well, there's the front panel on your shirt and there's a back panel of your shirt." Well, your obliques, internals and externals, sit on both sides. So, what the heck do you think they're doing? Oh, shoot. They're actually extensors and flexors at the same time. Yeah. They just decide who's getting shorter. That's it. And they facilitate that. So I find the whole, you know, I don't want to somehow overload my recctor erectors or I don't want to overload my rectus or I'm like, dude, you should not be afraid of stuff. You got to explore, you know, right? And abs to be honest, is the one thing I'm like, nobody trains enough abs. I'm like, guys, somehow we're all worried about being some thick ass like CrossFit girl. And I'm like, You know, the amount of bodybuilders that say that to me, I don't want to look at those girls that do CrossFit. I'm like, Do you realize how much ab work these girls are doing and and you're looking at girls that don't even dieted down? Like, do you realize? Like, we're all ripped under here, right? We're all shredded under whatever you got, you know? Like, you change your diet, man, he's ripped. It's like, yep, change his diet, he's still ripped. Yep. He's still he's just shredded under there. Just you just see fluff on the outside. But are you strong? Oh, no. I never do anything. I'm like, "Well, then at your peril, man." Like, you know, breathing problems, rib cage issues, back pain, like hernas, diastasis, like you got all kinds of issues that you need to be worried about.

Yeah. They never talk like that back in the day. Um,

well, all this is I just want to show piece. I'm like, then diet, man. That's it. That's it. You want to You want to get ripped down there? Just diet. That's fine. You know,

good luck trying to lift something, but go ahead. Let's try two more quest. I don't know. These are some good. Let's

let's try this because maybe we can take this somewhere. So, training strategies when dealing with reoccurring proximal hamstring tendinitis. And so,

oh boy.

I mean,

bilaterally or on one side or both?

That's that's all I got.

Reoccurring. So, all right. What's the first part of the question? training strategies when dealing with this reoccurring proximal hamstring tendonitis.

Well, okay. So, obviously, uh I would look I probably look again reciprocally like we're talking about with hip flexions and uh even hip flexor type stuff that you are dealing with. We obviously I don't have an athlete in front of me to look and see or assess and look at you know foot function to to um even pronation like internal rotation pronation tibial motion could be one of these things that's missing and the person is got no tibial internation on one side and guess what they're hinging over thinking they're lengthening their hamstring and they're they're externally rotated and all you get is that you know like oh yeah proximal like what's going on because they can't they're already tipped over you know so again I would probably look into you know foot function type stuff weight pressure obviously leg length discrepancy could be very muscular right that'd be something that I would look into and I would look at if we were just talking about training stuff I might be like yeah look at the other side why are your hamstrings working that hard are you do you need to do more hip flexion trunk control hip flexion stuff because your ham hamstrings are restraint because there's not enough guys on the front. So, the back says, "All right, hit the brakes." You know, that might be again just throwing throwing bullets out there. But, you know, that might be some things to look at.

Who trains who trains hip flexion,

you know?

Who trains any hip flexors, right? Like

I do every day. I know it's so underdone. do, but

all the gyms are getting rid of the hip and that's the best way to train your hip flexors, you know, and I don't know why start doing that, but I mean when when you're look anytime anyone asks me a question like this, it's like

like it it comes down to just do what you can't do. I know that can be hard to identify, but like

can you not get the [ __ ] shape required at all to begin like you were saying like because I see this happen sometimes if people are getting that

like it can be two things, right? You could you could just be so tipped anterly on the on the one side that it's it's getting really pulled like physically hit, but it could also just be pulled back and just shortened. You know, sometimes you feel that

you see either one of those scenarios whether you're this way or this way,

but then you say, well, wait a minute, why am I backwards and I have no dorsif flexion and I'm externally rotated in my tibia and so therefore, oh, now I'm twisted this way or I'm twisted from the other side and why am I twisted? is like I have no dice flexion and I'm extra ros from the other side and now I'm tipped over into full anterior on the other side. So I would be more like if I had to ask that question be like uh one limb, single limb, multiple times injured.

Yeah.

Uh any therapy? What did you do? What exercise you know brings this out? What exercise brings this out? You know versus oh everything you know are we talking about full full sprinting jumping? Are we talking about running? or we talk about, oh, I just bend over to, you know, whatever. And or I'm talking about, oh, it only happens when I uh squat or it only happens when I get that deep in a deadlift or it only happens when I do RDL's with this load. And I'd be like, okay, you know, we'd have to explore a bunch of that stuff.

Yeah, exactly. Like what is what's what's the failure point? Is it you you can't even acquire the shape and breathe and manage gravity? Do you need to put you on the ground first like so you can do that or can you get the shape and you just can't transfer force in there or do you get fatigue?

I put you I do a hip bridge and you go there it is and it's like is it both hips? Is it both is both hamstrings? Is it one? Do we have you know lack of adductor challenge here? So hamstrings taking over as one of those extensor kind of models, right? Like yeah, I'd have a million questions. But usually I mean usually what I see with this kind of [ __ ] is it ultimately is like you're not funneling I IR good usually through the ground.

Oh for sure. Yeah. You are super exter you are typically externally rotated at the worst time you know trying to hit the brakes on something. So, uh, I would then explore, you know, even if I wanted to play with ramps or something like that to try and drive you down and in, and then we'd have to peel some weights back to, you know, see, oh, yeah, I don't feel it till I'm at this load, but let's go back and load and make sure we're correcting it versus, you know, you're doing something shitty and then we progress to load and it just gets worse, you know? So, um, yeah, I would probably want to explore a ton of those type of questions. Yeah, I got a guy who always deals with this and you only see him once or twice a week and you know he's not like a serious guy and with about he you know he does what he does but it's like his on the left side and he's got that same left illium forward kind of thing, right? So a lot of times you see that and so for him he's like oh I need to stretch this. So he'll like anterly tilt and lean over and try to stretch it out. I'm like you're you're feeling a pull cuz it's already so pulled.

Yeah. It's already it's already maxed out.

Yeah. So like you got to got to figure out what your issue is.

Yeah. Or we got to work on the other side as to why are you so tipped over that you know and you're just you know kind of talking to the thing that's barking but it's like why is he barking in the first place?

Yeah. When we get him pulled back on the side is awesome. It just doesn't stick you know for him.

Oh yeah. So that's where you have to find some strategies around like what's the actual issue versus the workaround. So some as a trainer you're left in a model of like well it's going to work around.

Yeah. I mean, his issue he's got pins in his [ __ ] ankles from falling off a [ __ ] ladder from

Oh, there you go. It just turns into There's some reasons why we have those strategies, right?

We're just managing. So, I'm going to go ahead and pull up some of these videos. We'll look at

um shout out to John. He's awesome. He watches some of these. Um, Okay, cool. All right. So, I have not looked at any of these. We're just going to see what we got. This guy's pretty yolked. I don't know who this is. Can you see? Oh yeah, he's pretty big. Yeah, he's good.

Are you there now? Can you Can you hear me?

Yep, I can see it. Yep.

Okay,

I can see it.

I just can't see you. Okay,

I got some decent weight.

Yeah, this dude's You look [ __ ] cool, dude.

And so, he's the more kind of narrow looking ISA. And I think he is, maybe not, but that's really good if you are. This looks pretty solid if you are.

Yeah,

I'd be I'd like to get a slightly side view, but what are you seeing? What do you think? Well, the question would be what do you want to train? You know, how much do you care about going that low? Um, you know, you can see a certain point there's a change in strategies here, but I don't see anything that I would be like, "Oh, this is terrible." You know, I see a belly forward. I see him hinging. I see him pushing. If I look down his feet,

there's just the smug when he gets that low, there's just the tiniest little external rotation that he's dealing with. Just Yeah. kind of like between midshin and sort of his bottoming out. I think I'd probably stop him a little bit higher than he is.

Yeah. Yeah. I would say just a hair sooner and a hair forward. Whole center mass just barely.

Yeah.

Got safety squats.

Yeah. Love me some safety squats.

This This bar This is a heavy bar. This bar is [ __ ] [ __ ]

He's got He's got a decent amount of load here. That's great.

You Yeah, this is

Yeah, look at that. That's great. I don't really see I mean again control the bottom you know, I don't see any collapse he's able to stop start

nothing really like nothing he's great doing

keep doing what you're doing

yeah I mean literally

See right there you see the elbow position doesn't change

right that's usually what you're going to see is the elbows start winging around if it's an actual load obvious safety bar different versus than a a bar on your back per say, but I don't see anything that comes out of stack. Everything looks like a track. He's got them long tibias for sure.

This just looks hard. That just looks hard for you. But it looks good. It just looks hard as [ __ ] to manage all that.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He looks great again. Good job, tattoo.

I was going to look at the head. The head was up. The feet weren't really moving around. The came up for a second, but not that kind of you can usually see that kind of breaking mechanism when you see like head bob or breathing change or you'll see like the knee track forward a little bit or you know that looked great. Yeah, it was pretty solid.

Yeah. The only thing I would change is that that stiff. I would just take some of the range off. That was it.

Yeah. I would I would switch I put a little

And obviously it's three plates aside, so it's not a small weight.

No, not at all.

You know, slow down here. So, it's He's definitely

A strong dude. That's great.

Yeah. This is good. I was seeing if there's anything I miss. I mean, I'd be curious from a slightly different angle. Maybe we can find some. But that's pretty good.

Um, these are cool dumbbells. Oh, this is my guy Sean. Um, this is slick. All right. So, what do we got? Just a flat press. Yeah. Doing some breathing. Yeah. Oh, these guys have been working pretty good. Look at this. Yeah.

What do you think about that? So, he's holding it. No, he's holding pretty good. I don't see any tapping toes. He can. He looks like I don't see any real strategy change at the bottom, which is really great. And you see a converge, right? You see a converge. She's getting a little tired here.

I feel like it's actually looking better now. It looks great at the beginning. Nothing looked bad, but when I look at this beginning, oh yeah, just when you see him kind of angling a little bit, but once he settled in, he's fine.

Yeah. I just feel like in the very beginning a couple of these reps are like you don't have that at the bottom. See that big arching change there. So the first two reps and then it's a little tired and he finds it like Yeah, there now he's kind of good. He's pretty solid. Just for him, probably what I would do, buddy, is just maybe tighten your elbows a hair just cuz I know where you are. I know how you are pretty tight posterior expansion wise. Like that might help maintain a little bit. This looks this like a little external rotation. You mean?

Yeah. Like barely. Maybe turn the thumbs a hair hair out. Elbows a tiny tiny bit just to maintain. But you can see you can see the dome of it, you know. And I think the first two reps are probably his worst.

Yeah. Yeah, this gets you know we talk about sort of some fatigue sort of sits in and then he finds a strategy and it's like okay now I can load this. Yeah, this looks pretty solid. I mean the left side might be having a little trouble with IR might be a little heavy on. He kind of he starts and again we're really nitpicking here but he he he doesn't finish his reps at the end but I think that's a strategy too where he kind of feels it in his back.

Yeah. See, there's a little straightforward thing here in the first two reps where he looks like he kind of can't figure out. You see this left hand a little bit too.

Yep. That's That's again, we're nitpicking. That's very minor, but yeah. I mean, I Yeah, we're just being [ __ ].

That looks good. No, but that's why they want they want to be perfect. That's good, Sean. Um, okay. I [ __ ] T-bar Row, man. I don't love T-bar Row.

T-bar Row just don't fit so many people. So, you see how the his left arm is probably the easiest one to catch, right? So, there's just this little wiggle where he he's not in the same plane as the movement. See how his elbow doesn't match at the bottom or the whole time?

No, at the top there. You see at the bottom it's harder to see because it's going to look like he's got to come way inside. This should drive him to internal and he's already see how he sneaks to external but the handle doesn't do that.

Yeah. Does that make sense? So, he's left with trying to almost like his wrist elbow. Do you see what I mean? He's going into wrist extension and his elbows almost ends up under it.

So, I would be like, "Look, man, drop to the lower handles. Um, yeah, unless you really choose to do this and take a [ __ ] ton of weight off and do it as an actual like wide, you know, and represent your elbow path. Your bicep would represent the path of that handle.

Yeah. And so so it's like, whoa, that's going to suck because that's pretty wide and and you're going to end up with like a very delt driven. Yeah. Uh, you know, mid-back thing as opposed to he wants to go he almost wants to look like a handle in between these two.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Do you know what I mean? He looks like he wants like a handle position that's just one bit lower than that. A lot of this gets fixed if you guys just think about those contacts. If you had a little more of that inner hand contact, the elbow would IR the humorous IR a little bit.

Yeah. And it would match that handle position. So.

So here's Preston. Nice. There's some long arms. What's your weight, bro? Can't see your weight. You just doing the bar or what?

He's moving that bar. Great. 175. Yeah, he does got some long arms, huh?

Yeah, he's got some really long arms. What are you thinking here? This.

All right. So, you just see how he starts to move his leg. These are these sort of clues that you start seeing rib cage spinal things. Like, I picked on on Trell for that one thing where his legs off the ground and one leg is winging out and just like, dude, it's a spinal problem. And then all these little followers just jumped on me like I was how how dare you attack Trell. He's lifting planets in his arms. And I'm like, I'm I I do like the guy. I'm just telling you this is like a you got one leg swinging out and the other leg is dead straight even though they're both hovering off the ground. It's a spinal problem.

Yeah. No, no, no. It can't be the spine cuz he's he's on a bench. Yeah, they [ __ ] these kids. It was just like a young kid. I was like, "Oh my god." So, all right. So, he's got them long arms. I would probably widen his grip here. You see how his elbows You see how he ends up kind of folded in here a little bit. So, I would think 90 degrees at the at the L at the wrist. So, that with those long arms, you're going to have to go a little wide, just a smidge wider. And that probably feels like that fits pretty well.

I don't see any real throwing and catching. This is great, you know. But again, just don't be fooled. But with depth, that's all. Don't be I don't I don't want the load here, but I would go a little bit wider so he can feel 90 degrees at that wrist. Fairly simple. And then you're not unless he was trying to do some kind of narrow grip thing, which I doubt he is at that width.

No, I agree with that.

There's our man David. He's getting he's looking pretty ripped right now. He posted on IG.

Yeah. So, we got the single line doing the high vertical. High vertical.

Oh, good reposition. So, the only thing I see here with much of the younger guys is this sort of drive the shoulder down feeling. Um, it again I'm nitpicking right now. It looks like he's trying to get his elbow to a path. See that sort of side bend he's kind of buried into. This is kind of all and it's a decent weight. He's moving a decent weight so he's got to put some leverage on that.

Yeah. Um, he's got to deal with his trunk. So his trunk is being pulled laterally to the right and he's trying to figure it out or he's leaning to the right and I'd be like, why are you bothering? Why would you lean to the right? You know, so it's I see this a lot where the the young guys start to lean into that trying to create almost like more pressure on the anatomical cam of their lat. And I'm like, okay, but think about let's say even simply from your world, what's happening to the rib cage right now on the right.

He's Yeah. On the right. What do you think he's doing on that rib? See how he's starting to he has to keep repositioning himself. And so it just looks down down right.

Yeah. I would pick I would just you when you see him swing out to the side behind you see how much side bend he's dealing with here. So he's lean. Usually usually I don't anchor here. I mean sometimes I'll anchor there if I'm doing something specific. That'll be my left side usually. But I like to like let that breathe. I almost want to the other side. I almost lean him I lean him the other way. That's what I'm saying. I almost want to shorten the other side.

This is what all these young guys do. They lean into the weight. It's like I don't know if Cass is doing this to, you know, kind of weirdly kind of weirdly maximize this. Um, did you get that video I sent you with the cadaver? The shoulder.

Yeah. Yeah, that was cool. Okay. So, think about that. You didn't have to lean into the shoulder. The shoulder is going to wrap around, right? So like that cadaver we watched like the shoulder blade is the whole part of lat is tucking under that bottom uh uh tip of the scapula and it's going to wrap around the rib cage to go forward. And so when they start leaning into it, well, what are you doing? You're starting to take away some of that that opportunity for it to wrap around more. So yeah, I would just lean him the other way.

Yeah. I would just lean him the other way. Most of this looks fine.

And what do you like to do? Could you lean the other way and then come back to like a middle or what? Yeah, probably. I would probably make it a like because you got lat as a spinal uh lateral flexor. I might say you could kind of play it's not as big as most people think, but I would almost be like look for thoracic lumbar fascia at the at the top of that range and try and lean away to to maximize that and then see how they can almost like almost pull themselves up the bench. See how he looks like he's trying to go down the bench. I would be like, "Hey, I want you to go up the bench."

Well, think think like I mean I I tell my people when they're doing pulldowns like you're doing a pull-up, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I I invert it all the time. Say, "I want you think you could pull yourself up that cable stack."

Yeah, exactly. And watch them. They all just like, "Oh my god, that's totally different." I'm like, "Yeah." Yeah. So, see how much strategy is built in here. So, this is a lot of just scapular depression that I think is over overdone here. Now, I don't see the forearm at a bad angle, which is great. I don't see him really muscling it too far. But how much bicep do you think he wants to use on this?

Well, dude, he's got really great biceps. Yeah, but why does he need biceps? Straight. If it's straight line, why would you feel you're pulling this? Do you know what I mean? Unless you've made this about arm pulling.

Yeah. Yeah, definitely let it like I I think about like the reciprocal action my ribs usually on a on a. Yeah. So, I would just say, look, you're really not letting your like this is shoulder uh on scapula, like arm on scapula more than scapula on spine. This is the same guy, right?

Yeah. Okay. So, I would just see the I mean, obviously can't see the speed, but it kind of looks like we're back to just pushing weights here a little bit.

This looks better right now, actually. Right. Just a little bit. Yeah. The first couple looked a little different. Looks like he found his footing a little bit. Kind of like get the ground running. The first couple are just like move weight A here.

Yeah. AB strategies. Even. Yeah. Right about now.

Yep. There. Yeah. You see the path? Yeah. So So now we got some really I had to figure it out.

These people have it so hard. I know how he is. He's one of these narrows who just can't [ __ ] anchor themselves. So they're going to be kind of all over the This for him. This is so good. I know this is so [ __ ] hard to do for you.

Oh, that's great. There you go. There. Good rep. Yeah. Yeah, I would I would think about the hands on the.

So the funny part like look I'm looking at the second last rep and going really good rep. Yeah. Right. Like how many times you're like oh he finally died slowed it down really hard. We always talk about him going way too fast and then Yeah, he's just doing this fast.

So you just got to get the wrist a little bit more. Get a little more on that the first uh contact point on the hands. That'll help a little bit. So whatever whatever if you got to pronate or or supernate your wrist a little bit that's fine. Whatever it takes to like get those contacts. Yeah, it is really about a contact. Doesn't look He's not wearing wrist guards, is he?

No. Those are just like a watch or something out there. Yeah. Sometimes I see guys doing that with straps and stuff. I'm always like, "Okay."

I [ __ ] hate that. Here's This is interesting cuz I don't I think this is a hard machine to do. A lot of people [ __ ] this up. So, I wanted to get your take on.

Yeah. So, I mean, the angle on the wrist is the problem. Yeah. I mean, go back right away with your hands a little bit. Yeah. It's just well it's just a really rough thing on the I'd almost use this just for scapular motion and.

So you mean just in general the machine kind of sucks or what? Yeah, I would use this just as like a either a pec minor or kind of thing where I would say keep your arm straight and just make it a shrug. Yeah, I'd keep your the angle is just so poor.

Yeah, that's what I was wondering. I I don't I don't love I mean I've used some seated dips that are better. It looks fine right at the end, but then it sucks, right? Like your elbow's doing that weird deviation. You got all this ulnar deviation to try and press it out. It just feels like wrist wrist stress for nothing.

Okay. So, in general, you're just not a big fan of the movement. I I wasn't sure. I haven't done this. I don't I don't mind a machine like this. It's just this one's not very.

This one sucks, too. Yeah. I like this the old like life fitness one's actually okay. Um, if you had like a T-handle on the end of this.

Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. You know, maybe. But this is like See the wrist angle? It's just brutal here.

Yeah, that's a hard one. So, we have two different angles for dips. And the dips are pretty interesting. Check out the dips. This guy must love some dips.

Oh, he does dips. Wow. Look at that. He loves his dips. He loves his dips. I wonder if that's why he was doing the other machine. Just look another for dips.

But, I mean, no problem. That stay on this. So, look 90 degrees at the wrist, right? His forearm just hovers there. So, everything is hinging around, right? And he's driving through. Yeah, he's great. So, never leave this machine. Yep. A little more pec challenge here, right? Having to hinge over. A little more pec challenge to have to be piked like that.

I mean, I would just say don't look down so much, but not even that. I mean, the big thing I mean, the big thing is when the chin drops down, your collar bone really moves.

Exactly. Exactly. So, soon as you take away the curve in the neck, um, you're you're changing a bunch of things you don't really realize. But sometimes you can move more weight or whatever. And so it's just a strategy. That's all.

Yeah. Yeah, these are pretty solid. That's the only thing I can say is just don't tuck so hard because you do want those collar bones. There you go to move a little.

Yeah. And here I'd be like, hey, not it's not really chin up. It's more like face up a little bit. Yeah. You know, at that bottom like you feel that edge to want to drop your chin. I just take that away.

Yeah. You know, I literally grew up on a big barbell and hold his chin up and it was like, oh no, that's my thing. Dude, it [ __ ] people. Oh, this is my man Mark. Mark is [ __ ] ripped, dude. I think he's using the vulture.

So, I think he's pulling from the vulture here. So, I think it's going a little across. I can't tell. Do you like.

No, it looks like a converge. I like it. He's or he's actually turned slightly to the to the side. So, instead of leaning in, he's actually like rotated away. Yeah. To give himself a little more challenge to the anatomical cam.

Yeah. Right. I I don't mind this at all. That's I think he's got these on the inverse chains, too. I know.

Yeah. Well, then Mark's [ __ ] jacked, dude. Yeah, that's it. I It feels like this angle just doesn't fit him as well. Like he's he's really limited with upward rotation in his shoulder.

Yeah. Oh, is he? Okay. All right. Yeah. So, I would I would I might even lower this buddy even like one notch or two notches.

Yeah. I feel like I want to put him on the floor or something for this angle. Like the angle just feels like it's not awesome for him there. And I don't I would probably screw with a little converge on that. You know what I mean? On this one.

Like instead of leaning him over, I'd be like just move the bench over. Don't line it up in the center and just like kind of deal with more a. Um, yeah, I just move the bench over and make him actually have to like again he did a really good job rotating away. Now he's rotating towards and it just looks like the shoulder blade doesn't really move as well here.

Yeah. I wonder if uh still too. Yeah. So, that's just like I want my elbow or path. I don't think he's got the supination. I think he's got to stay totally neutral.

Yeah, he's neutral. I programmed this to supinated, but I I don't think he's I don't He hasn't been doing a while, but I don't think he's got the the space to ER. So, he already he kind of turned it neutral as he's going because I think he realized a little bit of that. See how he's just staying that neutral grip. So, I would just.

He doesn't connect to that one that well, too. So, well, I think we should. Well, of the two, like one looks great and one looks like this doesn't really look like for a guy that's obviously built and is moving some weight and take care of himself. This one looks like.

What do you think? Just get him up and back and not have him forward as much. Changing that angle. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, if I just open his rib cage up a little bit or change his angle, chin up a little bit and all of a sudden he might be like, "Oh, look, he's all folded over here."

Yeah. I think that's just too much too much right side compression. So, so once his rib cage drops, now the shoulder blades like, "Oh, I know the shape." Then he's like, "Oh, now I'm going to do this with just my forearm." That doesn't make any sense.

Yeah. Um, got the mag grips, which people always [ __ ] these up, right? Yeah. I actually like them, but most people really don't.

I like them, but most people get them kind of wonky. Like I think this is a little wonky. What do you think? Well, they do a lot of wrist stuff for no reason. Like this is to get your wrist out of it, not not get your wrist into it.

So, he'd have to actually come over them even more. Yeah, exactly. It's meant to It's meant He's See how he's kind of like flattened out here. It's not as bad as I see, but it is. Yeah. Pretty You're not following.

He's got some super long arms and it's like, okay, how low we going to go? I mean, you're using a lot of stuff to do that at that point, too. Like structure. There's a lot of There's a lot of there's a lot of bicep stuff in here that he doesn't need. It's a lot of pull handles. Pull handle. You know what I mean? So if I got under him, I would just be like I would just like put my hands under his shoulders and say, "Move me out of the way. Nothing move your handles right now." Right? He's just trying to pull down. So you see that it's not terrible. I'm being mean now. But that see how the shoulders sort of stay elevated there. So it's like they just don't drop.

They don't finish. Yeah. And he just when he goes up, he's he just isn't wide enough. Like he has to almost wrap his arms around the mag handles to like force you to come out more. Yeah, they should be a little more I R even. Yeah.

Yeah, see how he's got like an like almost an extended position. He should be flexed at his wrists. He's trying to He's almost like And again, I don't know if it's handle fit or whatever. It's just, you know, okay, this works. I'll pull down.

A lot of times I don't have people lock their arms out on these ones either. You just get the shoulder blades all the way up, you know? Yeah. I mean, you could take away the top inch and probably Yeah. See, he's taking a Yeah. No, it's all hand pulling here. And it's heavy enough to make him stop. So he's definitely pulling hard with his hands.

So you would just have him get get over the top of the wrist a little bit more. Yeah. I would just get him to go way over it. Way over it. You got long arms, man. And then and then and then not as much range as he thinks. Really? It's like, it's probably nowhere close. He just thinking, I got to get this to my chest. And I'm like, no, it's not even I wouldn't even get past his chin.

Yeah. I would say like, don't worry about past your chin and really kind of get over it more. Yeah, just too low.

Oh, there's a narrow. Yeah, dude. You are got some long [ __ ] legs. Long long long neck. What's with all these long guys? You got all these.

Dude, they're the ones that are all [ __ ] up, man. It's hard to manage their [ __ ]. Yeah, lot all these long levers.

Yeah, man. This is uh this actually pretty good for all you got for like your structure, buddy. Yeah, I might take a little off the bottom. The bottom range looks a little too low for him. That's all. See, there's sort of a little wiggle. Oh, look at that left arm.

You just look so much in your neck and [ __ ] too, though. Like, I don't know. Yeah, there's just there's just a strategy here of like a little too low. You got the wiggles going on now. You narrow [ __ ] lava lamps. That's I mean, that's pretty like like good direction.

Yeah. Is I'm not too worried about this, but it's just more like you've decided the bar as opposed to your chest. Like, slow it down at the change of direction. Slow it down. Yeah. Show me you can pause and take away probably an inch or two off the bottom.

Yeah. Yeah, but your arm position pretty solid, you know. Yeah, that the path is great. But you can see when he gets really attached to the handle movement, that left arm starts to buckle a little bit there. His elbows start to wiggle to try and figure out like, oh, how do I get the handle that? Try to get your head back if you can. If it's not one of these [ __ ] machines that pushes your head forward. I hate that.

Yeah. Nice. I mean, that's pretty like this. This [ __ ] machine and handle. That head position thing is so bizarre. So this [ __ ] him up because this is a narrow who needs a pump handle coming up.

Well, we had a guy last time on a machine like this, right? And he was trying to figure out how to remember we were talking about he was had a whole body position that was trying to avoid this. Me and Trell did it. Yeah, too. Oh, it just feels awful. It's like like getting your head shantis is normally pretty good. I [ __ ] hate this. I mean, this is good with what you got, but as a narrow like almost you almost need to like slide your butt and body forward so you can lean to have your head.

Yeah, you got to have a strategy. You don't have enough strategy. Again, this is I think the same thing where this is just too wide. This is too wide. I would just go with the other handles and see what's happening here. He's on the narrow handles. What do you mean?

Oh, he's on the narrow handles. But see, look at the bottom. See how his elbows flare backward? Yeah. I mean, that's too much. Some of that's the head, but yeah, bring that under like line that up.

So, if so, his upper arm matches the handle, right? Then it's like, oh, that that would take you again the depth is thing here again, right? It's like lower better. I'm like, not if your elbows are winging back behind you. Yeah. So, this is still a strategy of push backwards versus upwards. And when his elbows are behind the machine, it's like, well, that's you're not lined up to the to the handle. Right. Now, what they what they do is then, you know, rib cage up. I'm like, oh no, that's not what I asked for.

And I would probably put his legs under him. You see at the end how far his legs out in front of him? Like, he's just sitting there. Yeah. Yeah, it's a little high, too. You know what I mean? I was just like, get your legs under you, like under you, like you're going to squat and like jump out of there.

I just don't Yeah, this isn't a good machine for your setup. I hate that [ __ ] head thing cuz that's a great machine other than that. Yeah. So annoying. It's so funny how some of these really fit some people so perfectly and then, well, oh, this is a great machine. And then you get in there like, oh, this is not a great machine. Yeah. It's not good for anyone to have your head stuck there. Like, you can bring your head up if you need to use that strategy. Like, you can lift it up. You don't have a [ __ ] pin there. Like that's I hate that.

Yeah. And then look at look at this spot back here. Under the tit the under the tit squat spot. What is going on back there? Oh, that's how I expect you to train me. That's you know I had a I had a trainer who worked for me.

But look, he's kind of sideways on her though. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's not behind her. He's I'm saying he's spotting under the titties like spec. That's it. Like so she must be sideways. He's not even lined up. So it's only one arm. Like see how one arm is trying to Poor guy's hack squatting and all we're doing is looking at the other guy.

Dude, I I had a trainer who worked for me. He was like a creepy ass [ __ ] Iranian dude. He would hit on all the girls and he would get behind him and [ __ ] spot them like grabbing under their tits. And I'm like we were all Koreans. Like dude, I'm having so many complaints to stop [ __ ] being creepy. You're my top producer. Can you not be [ __ ] weird? I'm just trying to help. You don't do that to the. That's what I do with the girls. That's what I do with the guys. It's not what you do with the dudes. I watch you.

Um, grabs the boys by the balls and lifts them up. That's funny. So, um, I don't like your half squat, bro. I I like a lot of your [ __ ] You've been looking good lately, but this looks like trying to make this a knee extension move or leg extension kind of.

Yeah, I think his knees are his feet are too far back. Yeah, people are falling into that trap of trying to drive the knees, you know, cuz your pelvis is coming under.

Yeah, he's scooped under and he's Yeah. No, lot of other stuff was better. See the pelvis rocking around at the bottom. So, he's just trying to find some strategies and and you know at that weight maybe he's okay. As he gets heavier that's not going to be okay. The thing is people will feel tension on the buckle at the bottom. Watch his knees right at the bottom of this. They just do a little extra buckle in there.

Well, there's there's no pelvis shape change. It's just rolling under, you know, and so people will feel a lot of stuff going on. Well, there's a lot of shearing. There's a lot of shearing going on there. So, it's like, oh, feel that shear right. This is This is not the best move. But the other stuff you sent me was better, but I wanted to bring this one on here.

Yeah, no problem. No, you see he's trying he's trying to find where. Yeah, it's like Yeah, I mean, it's heavy for him, don't get me wrong, but. Yeah, I mean, I don't think it would be that heavy if his feet were up a little bit more, too. Like, bring him up.

I would bring I would bring his feet up higher and probably deal with that longer tibia there. He's got short femurs, right? He's like, "Oh, dude, what are you doing yourself? You. I want to maximize that that IR moment on something like this." When you go too far back, you you you kind of go out of that mid propulsion.

Well, you just you just Yeah, you just lost it real fast. It's like, oh, I used that back there somewhere. Sorry. Nice. That was it. Is that our last one, Homeboy?

That was everybody. Wow, look at all those good guys. Nice. Are those all guys that work with you? Um, some of them. Some of them are just the members.

What about the What about the the first guy we looked at? No, that big dude was his first one. I don't know who that was. Most of the other ones I recognized, I was like, I don't know who this this. All your other guys are all like long lanky. That guy's like awesome.

Well, he's long and lanky, too. He's just jacked on top of it. But that's that's the conversation I've been having with so many people. And the more I do this, the more I realize is like these these narrow ISAs, these [ __ ] people that that can't produce force naturally. Like they're they're they're so much harder because you got to reorganize their system versus just expand and like like T like Trell and Sergio, they're so easy to work with because it's like just expand a little bit their dorsal rostal as a wide and like maintain that.

You can [ __ ] do what you need to do. It's like it's like firing a cannon from from a ship versus a canoe, right? Yeah. He's just got this big big platform to push from. Yeah, where these these narrows, they have these kind of faulty trap or rectus strategies and they don't they don't produce clean force. They kind of like side bend in their spine and do all this [ __ ] So, it's just so much.

I'm getting all these I'm getting all these guys with like I'm getting all these people sending me messages about like crazy like diskinesis and Yeah, that's the people that I'm talking about. these [ __ ] people cuz they they're working out hard and that like for for me like I could tell when I was doing something even before I knew like I I could tell immediately like there's a there's a language to movement, right? And sometimes it's really easy to tell if you're you're speaking it or not, you know? And so like for me like it's very obvious if I'm do something wrong, I'm like, "Oh fuck." So the looks looks like [ __ ] in the mirror feels kind of weird. For some people their [ __ ] is so subtle. Like I can tell now, but they can't tell. And I couldn't have told when I was like younger. Like their their the way they cheat is so subtle, you know? They can shift it. so subtly that they're not even aware of it. So.

Yeah, it's almost like high-speed balancing a tire. You know what I mean? Like like when at a really at at 60 miles an hour, you don't really see it, but you take it up at 100 miles an hour, it's like, "Oh, the car feels like a shit." And he's like, "Go above that and see what happens." You know what I mean? Don't drive fast, kids. But you know, you take it up really fast and all of a sudden you feel like your engine's rocking around. The car is going to explode and you're like, "What?" It's like the tires are not rated for that speed. They're not balanced at that speed, but you go down lower and they're fine. You don't feel the the rat, you don't feel the rumble, you don't see the wobble, right? But you get them to that level of fatigue. You get that load, that type of tension, something. And sure enough, there it comes. Here comes the wobble, right? So, so that's what I would say is that when you're doing all this exploration of your, you know, stops and starts and all these other things to try and make it harder, you're trying to bulletproof it for that kind of stuff. You know what I mean? Because if you've done it, if you've done all the sussing out, you know, you've all done the sussing out uh at lighter weights but made it really hard for yourself, man, you you start working through all those strategies and you don't have to employ those. Do you know what I mean? But if you just peak everything to how do I put more load, how do I put more load, I I find that's the fool's errand, right? And you just start building in these really hard to get rid of strategies, you know? I I think I think if you look at it as versus how can I build more load like like put on more loads like how can I direct it even better like how can I [ __ ] funnel it all [ __ ] there like that's that's the way I.

That's so much to to obviously you're connected based on what you're saying you're very you were very connected to like I didn't put that in the right place and I'm a kinesthetic learner so for me it was always you know I've tried more things than most these guys have ever tried to be like well let me [ __ ] that up a different way or let me find a way to make that harder and then it there's like sometimes You're doing stuff and you're like, "Whoa, what did I change? That rep was totally different." Like, "Wait a minute. What am I really locking into?" And then it's like like a picture in my head of I just did something else. What changed? What did I change? My grip changed. I extended something. Whatever it is, and then I'm I'm kind of like, "Oh, wait a minute." I find that mistake, which to me is like, "I just made it harder. That's a success." But but if somebody said, "No, no. Why would you ever do that? It made it harder to lift. I can't lift as much weight now. I'm like, no, no, that's what I'm always looking.

That's what I'm looking for is how do I find a way to make this terrible, you know, versus how can I find a way to make this easy and then I'm just add more weight to the bar so I can just push more weight. I'm like I just I mean, we sound like a broken record over and over again, but that's but that's the errand you're after, right? Is find a way to make it challenging. Find a way to load it in, lock it in, and then just keep it there until you can't. And now you're back to the world of, oh, these these reps now matter. Now you can't move it fast. Now you feel fatigue. Now you feel something slowing down. You know, if you're talking about all these mediated stress symptoms that create hypertrophy, I'm like, you found a way to go faster. You found a way to not load it. You found a way like, well, you're going the other way. You moved a lot of weight, but you did the least amount of work. You know, you found a way to spread it out. You found a way to to find throw to a joint. Yeah. Yeah, you found a way to be an athletic guy and found a way to adop compress like like that's what I'm saying like that's that's what makes you good at producing force and just moving in space but that's not that true yield. That's not that absorption that we want. So we actually get those muscles to to take all the load and then have to like respond from that yield from that lengthen position under tension, you know? Now, the crazy part, if you take if you take some of those strategies to somebody that actually has a job to go tackle people, do you know what I mean? Or to to skate faster than everybody else, trust me, they're great at that. But if you start working on some of these like, you know, linking mechanisms and you actually like help them dial some of that in, trust me, when they got to put it all together and find efficiency, you're helping them do that even better, too.

That's what I always say. I mean, some people think the opposite, but I've never been good enough to do something that crazy to where I trained all the out of you. Like, I don't know. Yeah. But you know what? It's like, but you're still back to the longevity conversation, right? Like, like if you get paid millions of dollars to go do something like that, it's like, how long can I do it, right? How long can I do it? And trust me, when somebody has to make a choice how to to swing, you know, for a for a baseball bat or how to get something, you know, uh how to throw a ball that fast, whatever, they're they're trying to find a way for all that to go where it needs to go. And if you pick out some pieces that are missing, uh you know, and can explore that, trust me, when they have to do it, you know, and they put it all back together, they're not thinking through little pieces. They're they're merging all that. And so that's an immediate place where you can get them to to get way more out of that stuff. You know, their body is smart enough to to create that kind of, you know, 99 miles an hour fastball kind of stuff.

Yeah. Right. What did uh did you watch the Arnolds at all the UK and stuff? No, but I did see some of the results. I was like, you know, hey, what's going on? Wow. Who did what? Whatever. Uh was there any like big who did what? Like wasn't it the the classic guys was the big deal, wasn't it?

Uh I mean Mike Mike came back and won against Wesley who like I just I don't like Mike's physique. Like I thought I thought he was going to win and he should have won. I think when he comes in condition uh his physique has got some proportions that are. It's weird. I just don't like that. If he gets in really gets in shape I'm you know when he gets really conditioned I think he's he's pretty exciting guy. I think but I think Wesley's got a way better shape. You know what I mean? I just don't like. He just wasn't as he just wasn't as conditioned like based on what I saw. I don't think his legs look a little different.

Yeah. From behind his legs look a little different and stuff and his legs have come up but his hamstrings from the back haven't too much and then the glutes like Mike Mike's glutes were just shredded. But uh yeah, I mean I think legs Mike Mike's got some pretty good lower body stuff. You know what I mean? Who who won the um who won the big boy classes and stuff?

Andrew. Oh, it was Andrew, right? Of course. I got a million dollars between the two. Look at me. That's awesome. Well, finally Andrew, right? Finally Andrew. My gosh. He certainly deserved it. Sorry, I spilled something. So, I'm just making that up. Like, what am I going off here? Andrew, I thought looked pretty amazing to be honest, you know, but I thought I thought he looked better in the last one, too, to be honest. So, I was like, I I think he's he's been one of my favorite bodybuilds for a long time, you know? I think he's been one of my favorites. I obviously he's got some proportions that are just crazy.

He's got some proportions that are just crazy. And then when you see I know I've seen him like and all of a sudden he's off to the side and like you just see silhouettes of bodies, you know, from the distance and you're like, "What the hell's going on with that guy over there?" You know, he just stands there like this huge monolith, you know, and you're like, "What? What? Point it at that guy. Why is that guy off to the side? You know what I mean? So.

Yeah, if you don't What do you think about all that? What do you think about all that Nick stuff? What? Just him like walking off and being pouty and all that stuff. Nick, he didn't Martin. You mean you're talking about Martin? Oh, Martin. I'm sorry. Yeah, didn't Nick have a problem, too? He had a problem privately, I know, but not publicly. No, he he. Oh, okay. He I mean, he wasn't like happy, but he was he he shook Andrew's hand. He was fine. Nick Nick I know how Nick really feels but he didn't he he he was fine. He didn't crash out. That was Martin. Martin [ __ ] crashed out.

I don't know what happens with these guys, man. I don't know if it's just like check your hormones. Like I don't know. Yeah. Don't shake people's hands and do whatever. I'm like guys, you're in a pageant, right? Yeah. I was about to say body I was just about to say that bodybuild so gay. Like you can't take it that serious. You're in a pageant, man. What are you talking about? Like what are you doing? you know. So, I just think they don't really I just don't sometimes they get.

A little over, like, get really weird. Like, I, I even see junior guys are like, "Oh, we're going to see who does whatever." And I'm like, "Are we fighting or shooting each other? What's happening?" You're like, they just, you know, like, "We're going to see who brings the best package, whatever." And I'm just remember standing up there in your underwear like >> this guy told me he's like, we were like talking backstage the whole time. He didn't realize I was in his weight class. He thought I was like classic. And he's like, "Oh, all right, bro. Let's go battle. Let's go battle." I was like, "Let's go." >> First of all, you're six weeks out. You're about to get like fourth place. I'm going win this. But I was like, "This is so funny." He's like, "Battle. We're just going to [ __ ] prance around in maninies. What the [ __ ] is battle? There's going to be there's going to be big. Yeah, we're going to go wrestle right now." You know, >> that that was my first show. I was like, "Go battle." Okay. I don't not look at this the same way. >> Yeah. You and I are not in the same place. >> Hey, that guy's a pro now, actually. And I'm not. So that shows you the mentality. >> Well, he kept battling. He kept battling and you didn't. That's what happened there.

>> Well, you know what though? I think I think that idea of like it's some mano a mano thing. And I'm like, man, this is a pageant. You're not it's not even at any time, you know, who's going. Okay, I'll go there because that guy's not going to be there. Like just, you know, you got to it's like you against you, right? Unfortunately, it's you against everyone else. But it's like your job to be the best you you can be. And unfortunately, yeah, there's going to be prettier bodies there. You know, you can only do what you can do. I had somebody put something on one of my YouTube things. It's like, uh, you know, drugs, this, genetics basically rules the whole thing. And I'm like, well, that's kind of the whole point of bodybuilding though, isn't it?

>> Like in the positive way is that you you're it's you against you and you can try and work on something with what you got. You know what I mean? And um unfortunately there's going to be prettier ponies out there and everybody at certain level is just prettier and prettier and prettier and >> there's like 10 people who could win the Olympia if they did everything perfect. Everyone else could just >> fight for a top 20 spot and that would be amazing. It's like there you got to have >> that doesn't mean Olympia just get Olympia versus now I'm going to win it. I'm like oh okay >> you know guys like there's just you know you won a regional you did this whatever and then you get up against everybody that's already done all that. Who do you before before I let you go? Who do you think like could potentially be an Olympian considering the genetics, not maybe where they are right now, but if they had done things like right or perfect or if they >> you know what I I actually love Martin's physique to be honest. I love his physique. I think I think him over uh um Derek to be honest. I think, you know, I I wish I mean, Hadtie always comes in really conditioned and it's hard to beat the shorter guys for their, you know, if they can get really well proportioned and, you know, look big and small at the same time, you know what I mean? And obviously, it's harder and harder for the bigger guys to fill out, but when you can get Andrew standing over those guys looking just, you know, I'm just standing over you, you know? Um, and then you see somebody like Samson who's just going to be standing over you and it's like >> I feel like Rean could have had the potential if he >> I I mean Rean didn't do that well in the last one, but he was he was just too small. Like that's say I think he had the potential if he had been able to he had his digestion better. He maybe took it off. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, seriously. >> Look, man. He's he's over 300 lb now. So, trust me, he's hit the overdrive.

>> I mean, remember he went to classic. He's done all this [ __ ] Like, I think if he was just only bodybuilding and like didn't give a [ __ ] about anything, like he potentially has the genetics where he could be a Mr. He has some He has some crazy limb and he's got some big arms like like just naturally the way his his biceps fits. He's got those deep biceps, kind of bigger thick triceps. >> He's got that back. It's pretty crazy. He's got some great legs. >> He he just even when he's fat, he's not fat, you know what I mean? So, he's he's he's thickened up quite a bit. So, I put some money on him doing certainly better than he did last time. Um, and putting some pressure on some guys, you know, but he's always so it's kind of funny like you kind of want to see he's always so um lazy fair. He's always so like, "Hey man, everything's great, whatever." So, I've never seen him >> get >> I think life is good for Regan. He doesn't have that in him. >> Yeah. It's almost like, do you need to give him an edge? I don't know. Does he have to get everything's always like a shucks and everything's great, man? You know, so so I don't know. You like do you have to slap him around a little bit, you know? I don't know if he ever gets that um that competition edge, you know what I mean? Whether that's a plus or a minus. I don't know. You know, maybe that's easy. That's the easy part of just oh, you know, everything's just straightforward and do he's good little soldier kind of thing. So >> he's good to not get stressed. Yeah. >> Well, in terms of the stress part, he's definitely doesn't ever I I don't know. He does. I may don't hang enough of him to see him ever stressed, but I I don't think I've ever seen him not got a nice little smile on his face, little half smile, and everything's fine and how you doing and everything's good. So, you know, he's living life, right? I think he's got another kid coming now. So, >> yeah, another boy.

>> Sweet. What's What's the What are you working on on YouTube right now? What's your next thing? >> Uh, as I said, I just did I did a session with like a push day. So, it was just I had with this uh pro um uh classic guy that that I've worked with before and uh I just picked on him once in a while. Got crazy delts and you know really good younger bodybuilder and um we did a push day because it was like I don't really usually do a push day but okay man, no problem. And you know, we pretty much I don't know, two exercises in he was already like, you know, tongue hanging out, you know. So I was like, "All right, well, let's see what's left of you for a push day." So, um, I usually like doing a a chest, front, del bicep kind of day as opposed to, oh, somehow triceps is pushing. I was just saying triceps extension. Okay. >> You know, so I I would typically put it in with a back and a rear delt kind of thing. >> Meaning style. >> Yeah. I usually do that kind of stuff. Everything's going backwards, everything's going forwards. I find that I switched a couple of my bigger, not crazy competition guys, but some of my bigger bodybuilders to that and they seem to be loving it and seeing all kinds of growth, you know? So, it's just so funny because they're thinking back, biceps. I'm like, no, just go the other way, >> you know? And half the time it's just, oh, they've never thought of putting it together. So, I'm like, yeah, man, try that. See what it works. >> Yeah. >> You know, but yeah, we're just doing um videos. It's usually I mean I haven't really got some giant plan. Do you sit and plan all your videos out like >> No. I put up this video this morning. I don't know if you saw the thing I posted. >> No, I haven't seen it yet. I think I saw it come up but I haven't had a chance to watch. >> Yeah. Just about scapula. So for for like I just woke up yesterday morning and I was just thinking about this [ __ ] I was like I'm just going to [ __ ] do this cuz I've I've learned like if something >> Oh, scapular winging, right? Is that you were talking about >> like I hadn't planned that at all. I've been planning other videos and I was like not pl you know just thinking. and haven't gotten through and I just I just sat down with a camera and just said like [ __ ] it cuz what I've learned and I'm sure you're kind of seeing that too. I mean it's like especially with me like with my my schedule my in on on my in-person people is still full-time. It's like if I have like a chance and I have like a like a like a something in me it's like okay I got to get this I should do it right then I canceled a client which I I never cancel. I I moved her and then it's like cuz I just like let me get this done cuz I don't know when I get this window like it's hard for me to get like 3 hours of nothingness you know very hard.

>> I didn't plan anything. I just did that. I put on record and edited. It took maybe like two and a half hours to record and edit and everything. Whereas if I'm doing something else, like scrolling through IG, that's like a [ __ ] 30 hours at least, you know? So >> Oh, when you have to do your like review of [ __ ] you see >> Yeah. Like there when I'm editing a lot and like I'm I'm kind of thinking beforehand and [ __ ] and >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Like that's a lot. But >> yeah, that seemed like that'd be a huge endeavor. >> That's a lot. I don't I'm not doing those that much anymore, guys. like >> I'm just scrolling through and watch me look at YouTube and you know pick stuff out. Yeah, that would be a lot. I would think that would be huge. No, I don't do that. I I'm so far I'm doing everything on one take kind of thing. It's just like, okay, here's some questions that some people ask or here's some comments that I'm seeing or it seems like this is the number of things that people are kind of remarking on or sending me private messages about, you know, can you explain this and then it kind of coalesces into kind of a an influence of like I think we're going to do triceps today or I think I'm going to talk about this or you know, but I definitely can see at some point people are like, geez, what am I am I just broken record saying the same thing? >> No, you'll always you'll be like me. you'll always have a different perspective of something else. Like, and I've learned that like I've got like 50 more videos up cute. I'm like, "Oh, [ __ ] I'm never going to run out of shit." You'll be You'll be the same. >> Well, so far I'm I don't have, as I said, I I I I imagine people sitting around having giant boards of stuff to do. >> Oh, I mean, I'll make notes, but yeah, I don't >> I have some notes in my phone of stuff I'm like, "Oh, like I'm sitting up waiting for a plane. I'm like, "Well, let's do some ideas." Oh, I've never talked about that or that. And so I have kind of a a drop down, you know, thing in like notebook of of, you know, little isms and things that, you know, I think are kind of important or I'll do some queuing of like, well, I'm doing this exercise, what's important, and then I'll do a little, you know, sort of breakdown of something and then just throw it in my phone, you know, just as an exercise.

>> Maybe I should have you on my other channel. We could break down equipment. You seen my other channel? >> Oh, your is this your gym? >> Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of cool. >> Garage gym thing. have a chance to look at it yet. How's it going? >> It's fun. It's almost monetized and uh I'm getting like sponsors and [ __ ] over there because that's like more >> That's awesome. >> It's more the niche for it. But um yeah, like what I'll do is like I I kind of, you know, I try not to dive crazy, but like I'll I kind of give my biomechanics take on some of the stuff. So yeah, we should do that one day. Let's let's go over there and let's like break down some equipment. We we'll break down the biomechanics of it, like the prime overhead press, some [ __ ] that, you know, people don't maybe do wrong or think about. That'd be cool because I did like a D video where I broke down different handles. People love that. >> That's kind of where where somebody, you know, again, we so much different equipment at Pure. >> Yeah. >> Where all of a sudden there's a whole bunch of stuff or something's moved or they sold something. >> Dude, you should just do that. You should break down the biomechanics of all the machines there cuz you got so many that >> Well, that's where you don't even need your camera person do that. You just you just put a tripod and you talk >> just little shorts about, hey man, we're using this equipment. This is important. Dude, people will eat that [ __ ] up >> cuz that's generally what you see is just a lot of like oh when when they see me like are you working out? I'm like no I'm just [ __ ] around like I'm just >> I'm trying to jailbreak this piece of equipment and figure out like what's the key of this? What do they change? Why is the handle here? You know, oh how many options do you have? I mean there's all kinds of those things to to do. And again it goes back to that sort of me challenging people. Go play. Go play in the gym. Like this is this was all the equipment in the world was made by guys that like to weld and >> you know I wonder if I could do that and and they make [ __ ] that didn't work and then throw it out and you know make new stuff and oh oh we'll modify that and oh that should be that pad should be deeper or whatever. Like it's just them manipulating stuff and and then eventually oh those guys sell equipment like yep bunch of wel the Atlantis guy is just a a bodybuilder that likes to weld. >> Yeah. And sure enough, now you got a whole bunch of welders that just work for him and he just tries everything out and oh, that feels great. Okay, good. Let's do that. >> I really like the way they shipped versus all the other companies I use cuz they just shipped everything se like separate like not put together. They put like a team of eight people that just [ __ ] put these tin machines together like immediately. It It was cool. Like huge things around. >> Yeah. How many pieces do you have in your gym now? >> Uh in my garage. >> In the garage. Yeah. Uh, I've got my rack, which is a Smith machine, functional trainer, squat rack, all that good stuff. I've got the Explode shoulder press. Um, you know, Nautilus Explode, old school. Nice. That's gone up in value. >> Life fitness multihip cuz people need to have a [ __ ] multihip. Jesus, train your hip like other [ __ ] >> Great. >> I've got the I just picked up the Nautilus Nitro High fixed elbow curl, which all these [ __ ] all these nerds hate because they're like, "Sorry, I know. I got a couple messages from you guys. You guys are nerds, but it's all good. They're like, "Well, what about the active insufficiency of that cuz you're you're already up." I'm like, >> "Well, this is I can't recreate this." And that's not my only move I'm doing. I am doing other stuff. >> Yeah. It's so funny. >> Yeah. >> Like, but you're supported, right? It's not It's not acting. And And again, ultimately, you're just mediating that anyway. It's so funny. >> It's so funny. Like, but what but what about this one way up here? Like this would be activated. Not here. Like >> Yeah. I mean it's a crazy stretch distal like when you're getting there. >> Sure. Yeah. >> And then I've got the uh >> Yeah. You got to know what you're doing. You can't screw around. >> Yeah. You can [ __ ] that up. So I replaced my Star Trek leg curl with that. Like um and then I've got I got the gym Leno hack squat. That's money. You guys have that one? >> I think you do. >> Do we? I don't think we do. We have so many hack squats. >> I know. I'm like one of the only people with it in America, including the gyms. Definitely the only one in the >> I got to ask for that because obviously Dorian's a gym. >> Yeah, that's what I was wondering. Yeah, I thought I might get it from them. And then what else do I got? I got >> I got the squat press from Cybex, the old school. That thing's gone up in value. And then I have the Temple of Gains, who Yoni is my boy. I train Yoni. Um the owner of Temple of Gains. I'm one of their affiliates. Okay. >> And uh they they're doing an explode pull down variation that has a chest pad. And so it's got like a it can it can go forward and back. So you could like lean, use it for support instead of, you know, the old school. >> Oh, cool. So >> that's great. >> And it's got two loading pins, so you can you can change the loading a little bit. >> What's your square footage in the in the garage? >> It's a two stall, like 2020 almost. >> Oh, wow. So you got a lot of stuff. Uh, do you have to like trip over yourself getting around or? >> No, dude. It's super organized right now. >> Yeah, >> but I mean it's like I don't have I can't do anything. Like I've got everything's on wheels. I put all my stuff on wheels so I can move it around. So, like I don't have I don't I don't have access to wall space. So, I'll move it so I can get access to wall space and I'll move it to hook onto my rack with the vultures and stuff. But yeah, it's it's perfect. Like I I don't have room to anything else, but it's perfect right now. >> Yeah, there's still there's nothing else in there. >> No, not at all. I've got I've got the leg attachment for the bench that does the quad and hamstrings is a good one. >> Oh, there you go. >> Line leg curl. So, yeah. Everything everything you need. It's pretty solid. >> Oh, yeah. I want to see it. Yeah, I'll jump on. We'll do another one. We're just walk through stuff. >> Yeah, dude. It's like it's an expensive garage. Well, [ __ ] dude. >> Yeah, >> I appreciate it, man. >> Well, it's I mean, it's it's just your it's your hobby. There you go. >> Well, I'm working there now, too. So, it's saving me, you know, I was paying 15 to 1,800 a month where I was training, so I'm saving me that. >> Oh, so you have clients coming to the house now? Oh, that's >> usually Yeah. I still have the other gym if it gets like too too hot, which it really really does. Or if I just My mom wasn't my mom was here last week. I want to get the [ __ ] out the house. So, like I still have the other gym. That's awesome. All right, buddy. Well, listen. I'll let you go. >> All right, man. I appreciate it. We'll we'll link up soon. Everybody go check out I'm sure all you guys have. Make sure you go check out uh Eric's YouTube. >> All right, awesome. Take it easy, guys. I say it as your brother.