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Well, I asked you a question a moment ago. When the Bible says we pray to God, is there any examples in the Bible that we pray to anyone other than to God?
Kelly, you just asked me two questions. First, that's what I asked you before, the same question. I'm just restating it. So where did I say to you, "Pray to Mary"? Can you answer that? Because I asked her to pray for me. Why? Because the Bible says that's what Saints do for one another. Or to say that we are to pray to Mary, does it need to say it in those exact words? You sure? There's, there's, uh, a lot of prayers, yes, specifically to Mary from Orthodox, okay, from Catholics. There's one called Akathist, uh, him. There's another one, there's another one called Litany of the Blessed Virgin version. And in those prayers, they pray directly to Mary, saying that they consecrate themselves holy to Mary, to give their full hearts, hearts, their minds, their ways, fully devoted to them, to serve her fully. And when they're praying to her, they're even asking her to heal them, forgive them of their sins, at times, lead and guide her. Sorry, lead and guide them. It almost sounds like Mary's been turned into the Holy Spirit. Okay, hear it. Okay, so do you want me to answer their initial question? Because look what you like to do. You went into the early church history and the way they prayed, and you butchered every one of those statements, which I will address. Why do you pray to Mary? Because she prays for us, as all believers do. So I can ask her intercession. She prays for you. But why do you pray to her? Now, Kelly, this is such an embarrassing statement. In my article, I posted the definition for "pray." What does "pray" mean? See, you're embarrassing yourself, Kelly. What does "pray" mean? English and Greek. Prayer is a way between us. Let me help you here. Let me help you. I'm going to give you this link, which I wrote in your honor, because I know you're going to make this stupid argument. So here it is. Well, I'm asking again, like, okay, hold on. We'll pray to God. God, do we have any places to pray to anyone? Talking over me is not going to help you. What does the word "pray" even in English mean? You want me to give you dictionary.com? Then we're going to look at you. Help me out. And then we're going to look at the Greek words, which you don't know what the words are. I'm still going to ask you questions where I want to go. Okay, what are the Greek words for pray? Do you know? I don't know all the words, but I know what prayer is. Prayer is between us. But prayer is in English translation. No, no, that's, that's the best way to do it. It's not even dictionary.com says you're a liar. You're a liar. Here it is. Let me get it for you. Hold on. Dictionary.com and then the thesaurus. So one more time, I'm going to ask you, as I show you that, just tell me what the, tell me what the dictionary says. Can you wait? Calm down. I know you're nervous. So above your, I know you want to balance me at any minute here. So I'm just trying to get married. Relax. Let me show you dictionary.com. Even the English term, right here, it shows that you have no idea what you're talking about. Here it is. Are you ready? Uh-huh. Dictionary.com. And then it says, check the thesaurus. Now, let's see if "prayer" means only prayer to God. Okay, let's see. Let's see. It's what you said. We're going to run through the Greek words. Verb used with object: to offer petition, praise, thanks, etc., to God or an object of worship; idolatry. To offer prayer to; bring, put, etc., by praying. To pray a soul into heaven. Make earnest petition to a person. Make earnest petition to a person. Verb use without object: to make entreaty or supposition as to a person or for a thing. Where did you get that prayer only means praying to God? Well, I was going off of what we normally looked and what, uh, you know. Where did you get that? The Bible talks about the Bible talks about. So dictionary.com, right? Give me the Greek words for prayer. Let's, prayer, let's stop this afternoon for a second. I want to go read what you just gave me from dictionary.com. I'm being a good brewery in here. All right. So here it says, a devotion, petition to God, or an act of worship. You just read this. I'm going to read it out loud myself. Okay, let's see. It's what you said. We're going to run through the Greek words. Verb used with object: offer petition, praise, thanks, etc., to God or an object of worship; idolatry. A spiritual communion with God or an object of worship. And I liked how you put in there, um, uh, you know, idolatry. That was pretty good on your part. Besides God, a spiritual communion with God or an object of worship. And I liked how you put in there, um, uh, you know, idolatry. That was pretty good on your part. Besides God, a spiritual communion with God or an object of worship. And I liked how you put in there, um, uh, you know, idolatry. That was pretty good on your part. Besides God, a spiritual communion with God or an object of worship. And I liked how you put in there, um, uh, you know, idolatry. That was pretty good on your part. Besides God. Besides God, if he has a supplication, Thanksgiving, adoration, or confession. The act or practice of praying to God or an object of worship. So that's that idolatry thing there, which would be praying to statues and other things like that. A formula or sequence of words used or appointed for praying. And says, Lord's Prayer. That would have agreed prayers. Religious observance, either public or private, consisting wholly or mainly of prayer. So here, this goes exactly what I just talked about. It's great to God. Exactly what I just said a moment ago. Really? Can you finish the definition again? What did I miss? Read it. What does it say? To make and show you something as to a person or a thing. When you entreat someone, it's not just prayer to God. Did you forget that part? Oh, I only had up to, uh, sorry. I only showed up to five. So let me keep going. Say it again. What was that? Which is prayed for petition. A section bill equity. What are you talking about? Okay, buddy. One more time. Where are you at? What are you reading from? Dictionary.com. That's what I'm looking at right now, buddy. Right now, buddy. I don't know what you're eating for prayer. Okay, here. Let me now call out your line. Okay, guys, wait. Coward. Won't put it on the screen. Let me see if you read it. There you go. Okay, you want me to share screen real quick? I can show you. What? Yes, show it to me. Let's, let's do what you're just talking about. So this is what, is this what I'm reading here? Yes. Open it up. Now, dictionary.com. Enlarge it. Enlarge it, Kelly. All right. And then we're going to go to the source because it tells you. Go to the thesaurus. This is still, um, yeah, yeah. Okay, we'll get to you in a minute. Just, okay, whatever that is over there. Hey, at least not too bad. So what am I reading now that I didn't quote before? Yeah, okay. Well, I can't see. You gotta enlarge it, buddy. It's enlarged. No, that's not. Okay, you need bigger. You need glasses, buddy. Okay, all right. Is that big enough? What number do you need to be? Yeah, all right. Now notice what he did. Did you click on it? Did you click on the Stop talking over me, dude. Did you click on this link? Talk about I'm glad. Glory to God. And this is dictionary.com, buddy. I gave you the link that I was quoting from. But guys, I want you to see what kind of deceiver this guy is. Yeah, let's see. It's what you said. Talking about the Greek words. Verb used with object: to offer petition, praise, thanks, etc., to God or an object of worship; idolatry. A spiritual communion with God or an object of worship. And I liked how you put in there, um, uh, you know, idolatry. That was pretty good on your part. Besides God, a spiritual communion with God or an object of worship. And I liked how you put in there, um, uh, you know, idolatry. That was pretty good on your part. Besides God, a spiritual communion with God or an object of worship. And I liked how you put in there, um, uh, you know, idolatry. That was pretty good on your part. Besides God. Did you see I gave this link? Right? You guys saw this, right? I put on the screen. Put the link again, Sam. And that's something. What a wicked deceiver, dude. Thank God you're exposing yourself for all to see. Click on it, you wicked, hilarious. Shame on you. Hilarious name of Christ. So I had the word "prayer." You have the word "prayer." Okay, okay, fair enough. What does it say in definition for? Definition for: to make an earnest petition to a person. Sure. So now do you agree that prayer is not just to God, because it also means to petition a person? Okay, let's see. It's what you said. We're going to run through the Greek words. Verb used with object: to offer petition, praise, thanks, etc., to God or an object of worship; idolatry. A spiritual communion with God or an object of worship. And I liked how you put in there, um, uh, you know, idolatry. That was pretty good on your part. Besides God, a spiritual communion with God or an object of worship. And I liked how you put in there, um, uh, you know, idolatry. That was pretty good on your part. Besides God, a spiritual communion with God or an object of worship. And I liked how you put in there, um, uh, you know, idolatry. That was pretty good on your part. Besides God. Well, in this context, sure, because many people pray. Mormons pray to different people. Hindus pray to different people. So I asked you about praying. Oh my God, I'm talking about the Bible. That's my authority. So you want to use dictionary.com? Can I nail you on the Bible? Give me the terms for prayer in the Greek New Testament, because everyone is going to backfire against you, because it's in my post. Why? Well, I asked you a question a moment ago. When the Bible says we pray to God, is there any examples in the Bible that we pray to anyone other than to God? Kelly, you just asked me two questions. First, that's what I asked you before, the same question. I'm just resetting it.
Snakes, etc., to God or an object of worship; idolatry. A spiritual communion with God or an object of worship. And I liked how you put in there, um, uh, you know, idolatry. That was pretty good on your part. Besides God. All right.